And this escaped the entire world's collective security agencies? Fooled the CIA enough for them to confidently proclaim it was Dead Ladin? Not one media person in the entire world caught it? WTF?

Hmm I watched it. The specific news is during the frozen bits, and it is badly edited. Clearly it isnt a straight run through.

The comments live are certainly since the Iraq War started since there is a reference to that in the "animated" section.

It almost looks like they did last minute edits of the voice.

It means the video could have been produced anytime since 2003!

He does mention global warming in the animated section, I suspect that means it could be anytime since the release of Inconvenient Truth, which was 2 years ago?

It is an odd video, and odd that nobody commented on this.

The CIA voice experts, regardless of animation or not, seem to feel that it is his voice.

Who knows, only his hairdresser and doctor know for sure.

New Osama video seems yet another forgery. Everyone needs Osama alive:
terrorists as symbolic leader and the US Administration - to avoid
scaling down the war on terror.
Obadiah Shoher rightly notes (
http://www.samsonblinded.org/news/osama-commemorates-911-1114 ) that
new Osama talks like a leftist university professor. I like Shoher's
analysis. No way a terrorist leader like Osama would use a speechwriter. Osama is famous
for his rhetoric.
Also, in the tape Osama both threatens America with attack (by
"proving" Americans polytheists) and offers (yet another time)
long-term coaching in Islam.
But his dyed beard makes me cautious. Islam's mujahedeen dye their
beards before battle.

I think the CIA had OSB's corpse taken to a taxidermist and they hollowed out the center up to his mouth so a GOP spinner can insert a hand up the puppet's butt and make his mouth work while a paid actor does a voice track....these OBL marionette videos are pretty low grade entertainment if this philistine AlQueda fear mongering is supposed to make us run hysterically into the arms of Godfather Rudi.

Bush's fave propaganda tool. No wonder they don't go after him.

Funniest thing that struck me is his new-found desire to be the 2007 version of the "Man In Black".

(with apologies to Johnny Cash)

The unofficial word has it that Pearlman and Mossad is behind these conveniently appearing OBL videos.

Makes sense Israeli militants would like to keep stirring the pot against Al Quada.

WL Mackenzie Redux - I think it's more jihadi amateur hour at play. Why try to create conspiracies to explain it. It could be any jihadi B list player's production piece that gets put into play.

Israel and the CIA has more to loose than gain in having a hand in these crude productions if ever found out. They are also smart enough to realize that most of us aren't buying into it.

I've been saying EeeewSama Bin Rottin' was dead since the Yanks bombed his cave. Its hard to keep dialysis going in the boonies while running away from the Americans. You can't strain swamp water through a sock and expect good results, y'know.

But if we are getting video like this, I hope it just keeps on going like the pink bunny. What. A. RIOT! BWAHA!

Taliban Jack, we feeeel your pain.

I have read many regulars here claim that they are 'certain' OBL is dead.
Where they may be correct,their strong assertions are still no more than that.....assertions.Since these opinions are based only on speculation,I would like to offer my own.

Remember,so far the feds have claimed it IS OBL's voice(the government would never lie to us....would they?).Yet,it IS obvious to anyone the video is very suspect.

I 'speculate',based on the info so far,that it is very possible OBL has so far survived,even if incapacitated.
Remember,if they could have smuggled him across the border,there are regions in Pakistan where he would be cared for as royalty.

Also,just from what he had to say I can tell OBL must be indeed alive and well...

living as a prolific troll.

"You can't strain swamp water through a sock and expect good results"

What makes you think they have a sock? Sandals and stinky feet, man, sandals and stinky feet.

Penny said: "Israel and the CIA has more to loose than gain in having a hand in these crude productions if ever found out."

Why would they be "found out" and if so..so what...so called free world governments have been caught red handed in intrigues and agendas that take a dump on their constitutions and rule of law on a daily basis....there is no legal liability to political crimes against free people in the post Eisenhower era of cabal statism.

Look instead at who stands to gain...this is PR...Pure propaganda...who gains the most by inciting fear and loathing of Al Queda....answer that question honestly and you will be a step closer to the truth.

But Matt, what about the "Brutal Afghan Winter" of song and story? Snow and sandals? Slush and sandals? Dang!

Which reminds me, how does one keep an IV bag from freezing in the Brutal Afghan Winter? Armpit warmth? Sanitary!

"Eewsama, what's that smell man?"

WL Mackenzie Redux - you answered your question put to me...."so called free world governments have been caught red handed in intrigues and agendas...on a daily basis"....which is why it makes no sense for the CIA or Israel to involve itself in these crude OBL productions.

OBL strikes no fear into the heart of Americans. He's page 6 news. He's become a caricature of himself. The left, for that matter, has more at stake dragging OBL's carcass across the screen as an indictment of Bush's not capturing or definitively killing him. Most of us are sophisticated enough to realize that it really doesn't matter in the WOT whether he is alive or not. It never has. Bush made that point early on.

You are assuming that he is a useful tool politically for conservatives, he isn't, he's been more so to the lame Democrats that invoke him to bash Bush.

There are a just as many independent cells and loosely defined AQ operators, as far as doing us physical damage, to be feared. The Islamic jihad isn't some monolithic enterprise.

Ossie Bin dead a long spell. He got stuffed and animated. How freaking stupid do they think we are?

If he were in the land of the living he'd be flaunting his lanky figure in his long gowns in full display.
As it is he's dead, stuffed and it's impossible to show any 'body language'.

The lips are definitely too puffy, unless he had some work done at Pamela Anderson's fixer upper!

God, what a farce/joke!

its definely copied from star trek. Ive watched through the whole thing now and the hands move just a bit every so often, like they were on que.but the body doesnt shift even a bit, like a cardboard cut out. expect a little wee puppet master with bad teeth to step out and offer captain kirk a drink.
and why doesnt he speak english, the people half way across the galaxy do.

now maybe the binLanden bunch relized if they spoofed one , we would figure it out and conclude the binladen is dead, and if he is not, then he will be a much freer man to move around, like to a hospital

could be an opportunity to catch him

Give the tapes to the producers of any of the CSI programs and it will be solved within the hour.