Comments busted?

or Jack "Taliban bin Layton" has a nice ring to it.

either way, he is a scummy, scuzzy little prick of a politician. One to be despised.

Layton & Dion have no spine, they have no idea that the right thing to do isn't always the easy thing to do.

That is so disturbing. I lament the country that I once knew.

Both Adler and Blatchford are right. The inanity of Jack Layton, Taliban Jack, suggesting that anyone should 'negotiate' with the Taliban shows him up as a Cloud Dweller.

S. Korea didn't negotiate with the Taliban over the hostages seized by the Taliban. The Taliban murdered two of them - and then - held the rest as hostage until a ransom of 20 million (US) was paid. Layton calls that negotiation? It's kidnapping for ransom! Nothing is negotiated except as to which Swiss bank account the funds are sent to...for the purchase of guns and equipment for the Taliban to use against Afghans - and the Canadians, US, Brits etc helping the Afghans. So- Taliban Jack is actually helping the Taliban kill people - including Canadians.

By the way - our military are not policemen to guide traffic (peacekeepers). Nor are they labourers - to be called in to shovel snow in Toronto, cut trees in Quebec or shore up against floods elsewhere. They are soldiers and soldiers both kill and are killed. Yet - our politicians want our military to be either traffic cops or labourers. Both Dion and Layton reject their military role and instead, opt for their traffic cop/labourer role. Why?

In the four years since we've been in Afghanistan, there have been 60 deaths - and the politicians and mobile public opinion have screamed for the soldiers to be returned to their 'normal duties' of on-call labourers and police.

In one year in Toronto - there are well over that many homicides. No-one says a word. No politician says that 'This Must Be Stopped'. Our judges, all appointed by the Liberals - continue to release violent offenders back on to the streets - where they are the ones who commit those homicides.

In one year on our roads - there are over 3,000 deaths in car accidents. Caused by alcohol, speeding, driving with suspended licences, cell phones and etc. No-one says a word. Our judges, appointed by the Liberals, continue to release the drunk, the suspended, the racers etc - back onto the street and their cars.

Yet - when our military operates as a military - the politicians of the Opposition scream - and insist that they instead, be funded by us, the taxpayers - as traffic cops and call-up laborers.

I said it before and I'll say it again. All Harper has to do is announce in the House that he wants to appoint Layton, Duceppe, and Dion special envoys. Give them the power to go over there and negotiate on Canada's behalf. Frame it as a chance for the lefties to really show those evil right-wingers how its done.

As a bonus, Harper could offer to endorse the NDP in the next election if Layton can get the Taliban to accept same-sex marriage legislation.

The retreat would be immediate.

Which does bring up a good point. What is going on with the Government of Canada (actually I include both the current CPC government and the previous Liberal government in this) not making a good case for Canada being there?

They just have to show footage and tell the stories of people who lived under the Taliban, show the tangible reconstruction results, and interview the troops to see if they themselves believe in what they are doing. This argument should be so easy to win on both moral and political levels. Why haven't they been fighting the battle of public opinion better? I realize that the MSM isn't going to give any attention to these points. But, there is nothing to stop Harper and the rest of the CPC from bringing it up in the House and any other time they're in front of a mic.

Layton and Dion are sissies. No more. No less. I had a Great Uncle who lied about his age (then 15 years old) to join the army during WWII. He was turned down, but got back in at 17 years of age. He fought, died and is buried in Italy. A 17 year old hero.

Dion and Layton, by comparison, are nothing more than cowards, 40 plus years older than my Great Uncle was at the time. They hide behind this cowardice for political expediencey sake. A generation ago they would have been shunned and laughed at. F-ing sissies.

"Both Dion and Layton reject their military role and instead, opt for their traffic cop/labourer role. Why?"

Because, ET, they are utter cowards, and the mere thought of violence is so totally foreign to them, they would have us live on our knees, while they "rationalize".

The Korean hostage situation was kidnapping, and extortion. Layton must have absolutely no understanding of criminal law, to not see that.

Bryceman, damned good idea!

Taliban Jack is branded, forever. That's Taliban Jack Layton-NDP, leader of one of Canada's socialist parties. Taliban Jack, handmaiden of the Muslim Islamist murderers, the Taliban, is branded, forever a traitor.

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Maybe we can take up a collection so Jack can have his nick name tattooed on a prominent part of his anatomy.....or maybe Olivia can get a tattoo on her forehead with an arrow pointing left that says; "I'm with stupid".

A simple, direct question for Taliban Jack bin Laden: what do you consider worth fighting and possibly dying for?

Neville Chamberlain
Judas Iscariot
Benedict Arnold
Alfred E Neuman
Jack Layton

For various reasons all belong on the same list.

I suppose since we're in A'stan the government should be doing everything in it's power to inform/justify the mission. I think any polls indicating a lack of support is somewhat a reflection of the governments failure to communicate (Quebec being the obvious exception - there doesn't appear to be ANY cause that their politicians would fight for).

The mission itself is a noble, altruistic one, without any hints of imperialism that certain lefties decry. But we need to reassess the cost. No, 70 lives is not too much, however, the objective is a fools pursuit; if the real goal is to set up an environment there (political, economic, security) that would prevent a terrorist-friendly regime from re-establishing itself then we're seriously deluded. We could prevent such a regime just as easily by helping allies run bombing sorties whenever necessary.

Our whole anti-terrorism policy needs to be reevaluated and focused, meaning developing better immigration filters and targeting/tracing funding of persons/groups without respect to squeamishness of usual sources.

A good chunk of the blame lies with the education system. All the leftards- not too strong a word- who drew the wrong conclusions in the sixties just stayed in school after the party was over and took up teaching in an environment which allowed them to preserve their illusions and never have to put their ideologically derived assumptions to a meaningful test. It's not the whole story, to be sure, and not applicable to every teacher or professor, but just go sit in and audit a liberal arts class or two sometime. Liberal arts classes are also where you'll find J-school students killing time in the pre-journalism part of the course. Taliban Jack and Thomas Walkom are "educated" men, and it shows.

If there is a negative public feeling towards the Afghan mission it is because Canadian media collusion put it there.

In all the time we have been in the conflict, I've yet to see a factual interpretation of the mission, its purpose and progress in ANY Kanikistani corporate media.

Canadian success in resolving this conflict is being directly hindered by media malice for Harper being focused on spinning the mission in Afghanistan....for that we should never forgive them....and know who the prime suspects are in the media war with Harper...you will find the same sources in a war against our troops.

Woa, the floodgate opened!

IMHO, The Taliban is not our worst problem in Afghanistan. Absent the constant pressure from the pacifist Left, that mission would be going a hell of a lot better.

Our worst problem is Taliban Jack and his pandering to the noisy minority of imbeciles. It gives Dion cover to do more "reasonable" pandering to the same bunch.

Once upon a time partisan politics ended at the water's edge. Now the abject defeat of one's own country in war with head chopping barbarians is an election PROMISE.

Maybe the Islamonazis are right. Maybe the West is a paper tiger. Shoot a couple of Canadians and we all run to Taliban Jack. He says he can make the bad men go away with money, lets vote for HIM!

very good post et u should send that to the red star and mop and pail

very good post et u should send that to the red star and mop and pail

I agree 100% WL mac. My sister in law has just been deployed to Khandahar and I have talked to her regularly just prior to going and since she has been there. The soldiers on the ground basically despise the media presence, they have to be VERY careful what they say to any reporters, in fact this is now part of their training, because they know the slightest off-color comment will be spun into a negative headline back here. They are looking for dirt, nothing else, and utter not a word of the good we are doing over there, which she assures me, is plentiful and much appreciated by the locals. They particularly despise the embedded reporters, because they have to watch out for them and it makes their difficult job that much more so, like fighting with one hand tied behind your back.

Bin Layton and the pantywaisted Dion make me sick, with every utterance they make on pulling our troops out they encourage the taliban and put them in greater danger than they already are.

How have we arrived at such a shameful time?

Layton has adopted a position even stupider than Dion's (a question for the history types, has there ever been a war deployment where we announced an end date for a mission already date defined?).

Layton has been a pathetic flop as NDP leader. He had a chance to move the party to the centre, thus supplanting the Liberals and their moonbat leader. Instead he has out-moonbated Dion. The Labour party in GB took over the ground of the old Liberal party and eventually replaced it on the left.

Layton is living proof the NDP will never rise above it's marxist revolutionary roots (just read the CCF manifesto, still unrepudiated by NDP), and now appeals to the sandal squad who think we can negotiate with totalitarian killers, and offers 2 murdered South Koreans as proof Taliban can be reasoned with.

Jack Layton is the reason the Liberals still, apparently, have support of 30% of voters. He has positioned his party to fight over a small radicalized segment of voters who see US as world terrorist and Kyoto as salvation, with big UN world governance running the show.

The overwhelming majority of Canadian voters are moderates who vote Liberal and Conservative. Now that Dion has moved his party to the left, the Conservative remain the only choice to that majority. Layton had a chance to appeal to that moderate majority and instead has chosen to radicalize his party even further.

Harper must secretly be chuckling about the whole thing.

Shamrock you can just see todays MSM's in normandy august 1944 "so whats your exit strategy?"

When did Canada leave the 90's?

Jack Laydown.. he's ma man!!!!

it will serve us well to attend every dipper rally in the fall election and chant "Taliban Jack" "Taliban Jack" then Jack can go back to selling computer operating videos at night.

I have never figured out why the government has not shown the Canadian people the success stories in Afghanistan to combat the generic crap from the idiots.
Surely they could run 3 commercials showing kids in schools,some improved economical situations, and some health benefits?
If the clips could be specific and yet non specific so as not to make targets out of the situations I think the public approval would go sky high and crucify the left leaning apologists

Any of you on this blog volunteering to serve your country? Not likely.They're not fighting and dying for my freedom.

I'm all for Taliban Jack to go to Afghanistan and begin talks with the Taliban - I hope he kisses his arse good-bye first, 'cause damned if Canadian citizens should foot the ransom to save his arse. Good-riddens!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/03/12/wbud12.xml

After 1,700 years, Buddhas fall to Taliban dynamite

Gee do you think that people who blow up 1700 year old archaeological treasures will rationally sit down and negotiate?

The Taliban are ruthless ideologically driven minority sect who believe that violence is a legitimate method to spread their brand of Islam.

Public executions were commonplace in crowded stadiums for the edification and benefit of the populace. You would think it was ancient Rome where Christians would be routinely thrown to the lions as good sport.

The recent killing of Koreans and hostage taking for ransom, should give one a good tip that they will not be having a sit down to change their mind any time soon.

The simple fact is that Afghanistan has been a geopolitical playground under the old Soviet Union. Under this the US aided and abetted through Pakistan's ISI, the the muhjahadeen to create a nice "Vietman experience" for the bad old communists. The US was largely successful in this when they allowed the sale of Stinger missiles to wipe out numerous Hind helicopters.

The post Soviet withdrawal led to the warlords duking it out for control with the Taliban coming out on top.

In the aftermath of 9/11 the Northern Alliance and NATO countries managed to dislodge the Taliban from the levers of power.

In the entire period post 1989 up to 9/11 no one in the geopolitical realm really gave a tinkers damn what happened to the garden variety Afghani.

The 'scorched earth' policy pursued by both the Soviet and US after the withdrawal of Soviet forces left the enviornment ripe for any number of goons to sieze the levers of power.

But of course a new generation had to relearn the lessons of history as demonstrated in the Weimar Republic with its pitched street battles.

Thus we had the Taliban come to the fore with Osama bin Laden aiding and abetting. Only now the ideological wrapping isn't a Hitler inspired secular nationalism but one with a 'religious' flavour.

In a parallel way, the post WWI Germany has its analogues in post Saddam Iraq, and post Cold War Afghanistan. There are those who believe or come to accept that the natural state of man is to be at war or 'jihad'.

The 'Mein Kampf' crowd among the jihadists have drunk hook, line and sinker at Adolf's poisoned well.

This is the type of thinking that leads to the "God Bless Hitler" signs in the aftermath of the Mohammed cartoons.

SEE for example:

http://www.n-tv.de/634520.html

In the same way, those who buy into the 'revolutionary struggle' be it communist, marxist, jihadist or National Socialist exhibit the same phenomena of violence as symptomatic of the natural state of man. In all cases the freedom of the individual is circumscribed for the 'greater good of the community united in struggle/revolution'.

The belief in violent jihad has arisen from the fact that Afghanistan has experienced an uninterupted period of violence since 1979. To the local population, war is the normative state.

It is thus entirely natural for a certain percentage of the population to accept that the natural state of man is to wage 'jihad'.

If one's cumulative experience is to be in a constant state of struggle it is not entirely surprising to see some seduced by the 'go die for Allah' ideological message in the same way that many were seduced to go to war for Adolf's 'struggle'.

Asking to sit down and negotiate with the Taliban is likely to be about as productive as Rudolf Hess flying to England to tell the Allies to cease and desist.

How do you negotiate with those who say: "These are our beliefs, if you don't like them we will shoot you or cut your head off for internet viewing."?

Would anyone in WWII have suggested among the Allies, that one should sit down with SS commander Karl Hanke of Breslau and have a fire side chat? He didn't earn the moniker "Hangman of Breslau" for nothing.

One of the gals I know lost her father due to his prolific fanaticism.

But there are analogues to this in the Canadian experience. See for example Adrien Arcand of the Canadian National Socialist Unity Party.

In the same way that many germans did not speak out against Hitler, many under the jihadi/Al Qaeda/Taliban ideology will not come out to speak against the violence if you believe that by not speaking you may live a few hours/days/weeks longer. I don't think the natural desire to live is entirely suppressed amongst a population notwithstanding severe repression.

Jack Layton is unfortunately out of step on this particular issue. But to really understand this, I believe you need to know people who have suffered under the boot of repression or have experienced it oneself.

Stephane Dion on the other hand is simply hypocritically posturing; which one would come to expect from the LIEberals.

The Taliban aren't going to sit down and sing Kumbaya any more than Gauleiter Hanke of Breslau would capitulate even after Adolf was dead.

It has taken years for people to come to this type of thinking, it will take years of patient endeavour to undo it. A February 2009 pullout proposition is just the fantasy that will ensure the violence will continue.

If one creates a power vacuum, like post WWI Germany, expect similar results.

But why learn from history when you can repeat the same errors?

"They're not fighting and dying for my freedom." Posted by: ok4ua

The more dead terrorists, the less chance of one of them deciding to blow themselves up while your buying your groceries. You must have a really small mind to think that what the Canadian soldiers are doing half way around the world has no effect on your life.

...themselves up while 'you're' buying your groceries.

...just in case this is anyone's pet peeve...

Speaking of Taliban loving traitors, did any of y'all catch Chuckie Schumer's little speech today. Limbaugh's been running it wall to wall.

Earned the name we gave him waaaay back in the Clintoon assault weapons ban days. "Upchuck Schumer".

If the frenzy of the Leftish politicos is any indication, we must be doing GREAT over there.

ok4ua does have a really small mind.

He is a socialist and a Lorne Calvert lover.

What else needs to be said?

the origin of taliban jack?

http://alsocanadian.blogspot.com/2006/09/who-needs-hanoi-jane.html

Islamabad, Sept.3: The United States and Taliban will hold another round of secret talks over the next few days with the help of Pakistan to end violence and restore peace in Afghanistan's insurgency-hit provinces in the South and Southwest.According to The Nation, both sides have had one round of talks, and the next round of talks would coincide with the visit of US Deputy Secretary of States, John Negroponte.

PESHAWAR: Peace cannot be restored in the war-ravaged Afghanistan unless the Karzai government includes the Taliban in the peace process and in the government, former Afghan president Prof Burhanuddin Rabbani told Daily Times on Sunday after a seminar on improvement of bilateral relations between Pakistan and Afghanistan. The seminar was arranged by the Forum for Area Studies and Information Centre (FASIC), a private non-profit organisation.

“Besides the Taliban, the government should also include other anti-government factions in the ongoing peace dialogue,” he said, adding that the Afghan war would continue if the Taliban were not made part of the peace negotiations and included in the government. He said efforts to include the Taliban in the peace dialogue were continuing as they could play an important role in the ongoing peace negotiations and that the government would soon contact the Taliban.

“The recently held Loya Jirga is a good step and it is necessary to continue it,” he said, hoping that the Jirga would produce good results. The former president said the foreign forces were adding to the problems of the Afghan people. “War is not a solution to problems,” he said.

“War is not a solution to problems.”

But flying airplanes into large buildings in the hope the entire economy of the most powerful nation on earth will crumble is?

ian at 1:54 PM asks "I have never figured out why the government has not shown the Canadian people the success stories in Afghanistan to combat the generic crap from the idiots."

You have too rosey a picture of human nature, that is why. You must think that voting Canadians are just dumb puppies that merely need their noses rubbed into it, and that they will then realize the error of their ways and become mature. In reality, people are more likely to act collectively as rats, and cornered ones at that. Show them something they don't like, and they will go for your throat.

You do need a spoonful of suger to make the medicine go down.

John West put down the following list:
Neville Chamberlain
Judas Iscariot
Benedict Arnold
Alfred E Neuman
Jack Layton

Chamberlain, yes he was naive but he did open his eyes and served under Churchill to fight Hitlerism until his death. He doesn't belong in your list.

Arnold, did he get included for his original disloyalty to the Crown (which has to be considered somewhat redeemed by his return to the good graces of his soveriegn) or for his failure to turn over West Point to help defeat the rebellion?

just wait until the next election. you will see how many liberal socialist cowards there are in canada. you will be unpleasantly surprised. the stupidity of my fellow citizens knows no bounds.

Typical right wingers: when their plans go wrong, they look for someone else to blame. In case you have forgotten, Stephen Harper is the leader of this country, not Jack Layton, not Dion and not the MSM. Harper's steely resolve now requires consensus of the four parties in order to extend the mission...and that's Laytons fault. Troops are losing the appetite to go running after the Taliban while other NATO allies sit around doing non-combat activities...and that's Laytons fault. Poppy production is up...and that's Laytons fault. Idiots.

Shows how far Canada has fallen due to Lefty creep.
Have either Layton or Dion had a trip over to the hotbed of Taliban terrorism?

Our Forces would have to all be issued a strong dose of Gravol to have to look at either of them, let alone listen to them assuring them they are working to get them home. After all, why would a military force want to go to a war zone, (Lefty question)?

Just what would these peace at all costs wusses consider worth fighting for?

lberia - in case you have forgotten, Canada is a democracy and operates by a legislature that is primarily filled with lefists - the type who cut and run.

There's the Bloc Quebecois - who would never go to war for anyone, much less a people who don't speak French.
There's the NDP - who would also never go to war for anyone; they prefer to 'negotiate', ie, pay enormous ransoms of the taxpayer's money to terrorists who are basically, criminal thugs.
And there's the Liberals - who would also never go to war for anyone, prefering to let The Yanks do all the work - and prefering to demote the Canadian military to policemen and on-call labourers.

And the reason why Layton, Dion and the Bloc are devoted to 'cut and run' military proposals, is because they are appealing to the people, like you, who support terrorism, or who support the Americans doing all the fighting (and the Brits and Aussies), or who support Islamic fascism. There's a lot of support for Islamic fascism among the leftist crowd - ie, among your group, lberia, because you all fall into the same mindless ideologies. Of purism, utopianism, collectivism, emotional bonding, rejection of reason, cultural relativism.

In case you hadn't noticed.

the worlds opinion of us. harmless

http://www.cbc.ca/cp/Oddities/070906/K090604AU.html

yes lberia , taliban jack is not only not the leader he is not even the leader of the opposition, but we have to look at his subsidized housing grabbing mug on the MSM far to often.

there will never be a video of this , it would be unintelligible.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070905/dion_reax_070906/20070906?hub=TopStories

I see we have CTV(tass) with a defence from Borat Dion of Trudeau from the onslaught of the big Bully Mulroney.

who incidently I personally place in the same category of Eastern Slime politicians as Trudeau , Martin and Dion - the neat little triangle of power that is the intersection of Bay Street and Sussex Drive.

Face it , had this country been discovered and settled from West to East instead of the other way around , most of the crap land on the eastern seaboard would have been left as national parks. and that includes the scrawny farms along the St Lawrence that get to produce the quota milk.

ET:

Looks like Stevie has set himself up to "cut and run" with his consensus approach...I suppose he is a leftist as well.

on the clarity act and meech lake .
Stephane stole the words from Stephen after Trudeau mukked the Meech lake.

This act was spawned by the 1995 Quebec referendum and ongoing independence movement in that province. In 1996, the initial attempt to pass a similar bill by then Reform MP Stephen Harper did not pass first reading. Known as Bill C-341, or the Quebec Contingency Act, it served as a model for the subsequent Clarity Act passed in 2000.[1]

Stephane (Borat) now claims this as his great acheivement, clarity is not his strong suit.

lberia - don't call Harper 'stevie'. Your juvenile sneers show you up - as juvenile.

Harper isn't 'cutting and running'. He isn't, as Layton demands, bringing the troops home now; he isn't, as the Bloc wants bringing them home now. Nor is he, as Dion wants, setting a final date. All he is doing - if you had the brains to see it - is acknowledging the current commitment, which is until 2009. To continue the commitment would, he says, require a debate in parliament.

Now, lberia - your support for terrorism and Islamic fascism - is overwhelming. Would you mind telling us why you are such a supporter?

The guts of the Clarity Act came from Stephen Harper and Preston Manning, of the then Reform Party.
Like so many more good ideas, the Liberals claim it as their own. IT'S THE LIBERAL WAY.

Clarity and Dion = oxymoron.

Oh come on, ET, I thought Canada was staying in Afghanistan until the evildoers are vanquished...anything else is cutting and running. "...what if Canada only stayed in Europe until December 1944?" Blah, blah, blah

You are hilarious...anyone who disagrees with your sycophantic support of Harper supports terrorism. Hahaha.

I will call him Stevie if I want...or do you prefer "Dear Fat Leader?" He is an arrogant, petulant, fat, middle aged man who, probably because he never served in the military (or, more likely, never would have been accepted) gets a big hard on acting like a tough world leader by keeping our troops in combat. Unfortunately, all this is without actually coming up with a viable plan for success. This is why I disrespect him.

no, lberia - your calling him 'stevie' shows you up as a juvenile name-caller - someone who belongs in the schoolyard. Name-calling - that's definitely immature.

No, Canada was and is in Afghanistan as a NATO commitment - and that's a silly thing to say - 'until the evil-doers are vanquished'. That's not its mission; its mission is to help the Afghan gov't move into a civic and democratic mode that it can sustain on its own. Got that?

Terrorism will never be completely vanquished - after all - people like you support it. And there are lots of people like you - utopians, cloud dwellers, rejecting reason, filled with anger and hate...And jealousy. You are jealous of people who succeed - such as Harper. He's the PM; you aren't.

As for a 'plan of success' that's an utterly stupid thing to say. You don't PLAN democracy. It isn't akin to setting up a mechanical shop with 8 parts to your product. There's no 10 steps to democracy.

A democracy is a complex adaptive system (I bet you don't know what that means)..and as such, doesn't and can't operate by linear plans. All you can do is build up, gradually, a basic infrastructure: a constitution, a civic rather than kin-based mode of gov't; a legal system and an insistence that behaviour operates according to this rule-of-law. An elected legislature. And, an educational system that promotes reason, critical thinking, debate, analysis, questions. And an economy based on individual hard work and competition.

That's what you do - and that can't be done in a linear step-by-step fashion. It takes time, it's a 'hodge-podge' or a piecemeal, 'bricolage' fashion - and it works. Gradually. But your utter ignorance of democracy, as well as your rejection of it, and your totalitarian ideals leads you to insist on a mechanical plan. No such thing.

By the way - again I'll ask you. Why do you support terrorism and Islamic fascism?

Iberia:

I suppose you would count Churchill a "Dear Fat Leader" as well, because he was a Conservative?

Since when are 10 to 15 pounds of extra fat a drawback to being a good leader?

Personal characteristics aside, perhaps you could share with the world your plan to bring peace to Afghanistan besides leaving the place yesterday?

You would rather see another round of warlord fighting perhaps?

Iberia, since the CPC came to power, with a -minority- I hasten to add, the Forces have acquired new jeeps which we have needed since 1980, new tanks, new heavy lift aircraft, new heavy trucks, and desert camo for everybody in-theater. Pretty soon our guys will even have choppers, and at that point they will be up to bare minimum for a small modern expeditionary force.

The Liberals if you will recall, sent guys in shoot-me-green with 1970's vintage Volkwagen Iltis crap boxes and no armor.

Harper not only has to win all the battles, he has to do it with a military almost dead from abuse and neglect, an officer corps that is filled with chair polishing majors used to maybe one training outing a year, and three opposition parties who are making Canadian defeat in Afghanistan a campaign promise.

This is the same Afghanistan that chewed up the Soviet military and spit them out like a rubber bone.

Oh yeah, and a media who makes it front page news for a week if a soldier farts at an inopportune moment.

You want the apple stealing Libs back in office, or would you prefer Taliban Jack's Appeasement Party? Would you like the Canadian Forces to fight the head cutters where they live, or would you rather do it yourself on Yonge Street?

These are your choices dude.

Why are you people responding to that deluded troll...?

no, lberia - your calling him 'stevie' shows you up as a juvenile name-caller - someone who belongs in the schoolyard. Name-calling - that's definitely immature.-ET

ET, you write that with what I assume is a straight face on a thread entitled "Mark My Words, "Taliban Jack". Are you really that thick???

manny - are you really that thick? The name 'Taliban Jack' isn't name-calling; it is an EARNED name - which Layton EARNED by his relentless support of the Taliban terrorists. OK?

Whereas - calling Stephen Harper 'stevie' is an attempt to belittle him, to sneer at him - both in the assumption of equality (I call you 'stevie' because you and I are friends and are equal)....or... possibly as a vague attempt to align him with Bush, because Bush did call him 'Steve'. But remember - Bush can do that, because both he and Harper are leaders of a country. lberia has no right to claim equality or friendship. And his 'you are like Bush' is just an attempt to smear him. [I happen to strongly support Bush's foreign policy].

Are you that thick, murray?

I beer ya Iberia. You are the quintessential example of shallow, knowledge bereft, blovating leftard ignoramus.

Taliban Jack and the ‘lesbian trapped in a man’s body’ Dion will be forgotten stains on Canada’s history books.

I also see the crypto-communist Iberia is toiling away in his mom’s basement again spewing his hatred for anything remotely related to democracy and freedom. Who really cares what that shriveled up hate filled little man, who will leave this world with less than what he entered with, has to say.

Listen people. Is it really that hard NOT to respond to the likes of iberia, slm and their ilk? This blog is for conservatives and those who want to learn. If I want to read the mindless drivel the left spouts I can go read Kos, DU or go talk to my idiot neighbour. I love coming here to read the intelligent commentary of the regulars. So, please, stop feeding the trolls. They will go away if nobody talks to them. PLEASE!

ET:

Endless comments about "Taliban Jack" and "Borat Dion" and I'm the one who's juvenile for calling him "Stevie?"

"No, Canada was and is in Afghanistan as a NATO commitment - and that's a silly thing to say - 'until the evil-doers are vanquished'. That's not its mission; its mission is to help the Afghan gov't move into a civic and democratic mode that it can sustain on its own. Got that?"

Well, I think you better tell Rick "Kill the Scumbags" Hillier and former Defence Minister Gordon "Retribution for 9/11" O'Connor.

Your explaination regarding democracy is hilarious: "You can't plan for democracy" but you have to "build up, gradually, a basic infrastructure: a constitution, a civic rather than kin-based mode of gov't; a legal system and an insistence that behaviour operates according to this rule-of-law. An elected legislature..." Hmmm. Sounds like "a plan" to me. It's just not working very well, which is the point of this discussion.

Your internet psycho analysis and your leading questions are amusing...prove that I support terrorism, or better yet, prove that you don't.

Phantom:

"This is the same Afghanistan that chewed up the Soviet military and spit them out like a rubber bone."

That's right, and they had many more troops, too. So what does Canada have there...2000 troops of which 900 or so are combat troops. Look, if the Canadian government and NATO were seriously concerned about what is going on in Aghanistan, there would be many more soldiers there, period. We are just wasting our time now.

You've got to give Christie a hand - she tells it like it is.

She has a lot of influence because she is recognized as the best journalist in Canada - people read her - because she is brutally honest and true blue.

What the guy at the CP did is inexcusible and I bet that Christie let the commanding officers there know right away. This article will cause waves - good.

the scary thing about calling him "Borat Dion"
its not a joke
his English is unintellagable. and the likes of CTV(tass) and CBCpravda cover it up or rewrite the lines into some semblance of congruity.

what surprises me is people like Rex Murphy dont go into linguistic catatonia describing him and Rick Mercier doesnt fall into side splitting laughter on an interview , unless CBCpravda has put out the word--- dont embarrass Borat Dion

Dat is not fair.

thanks Stevie for being prime minister.

Iberia

The cold war never ended dude. We are still fighting the same battles, just the proxies are different.

jeez, man get with the program, communisim and facisim are like cockroaches, you can only keep a lid on the numbers and hope they don't over-run your position.

I agree with djimbc. Why bother with these children? Read what they wrote (or not), chuckle at their ignorance and move on to important things, like conversing with intelligent conservatives of like mind. Can we have at least a moratorium of a week. No "dumbing down" for a week.

You right wing kooks are scared of Jack Layton.

"You right wing kooks are scared of Jack Layton."

Only when he's in the men's room stall next to me and starts tapping his feet in the wide stance.

"Question for Layton: what do you consider worth fighting and possibly dying for?"

Answer: Preventing Svend Robinson from being arrested during a jewelry heist.

Yeah, that's the ticket.

Us right wing kooks are Laytophobic.

Unfortunately, "intelligent conservatives" is all too frequently an oxymoron.

Who's that?....E. Jack U. Layton?
Oh that idiot.

sometimes I wonder, "how long can Christie hold out at the Globe and Mail"? so often she writes the only words worth reading there.

This is the same Afghanistan that chewed up the Soviet military and spit them out like a rubber bone.

Another example of socialist incompetence.

lberia - The name 'Taliban Jack' is earned - for his support of the Taliban. I've never used the name 'Borat Dion'. But don't let the truth bother you, eh, lberia??

No, a list of structural attributes to be achieved is not a plan of operation, only a list of structural attributes to be achieved..slowly, piece by piece, as situations develop. A goal is not the same as a plan - even though you don't know the difference.

It's obvious that you support terrorism; every statement you make on this blog is against any attempts to remove, disrupt etc terrorism. You sneer at the work done in Afghanistan and Iraq; you inform us of everyone's incompetence. So, lberia - tell us, since you are The Wise One - how would YOU 'get rid of the evil terrorists' and bring peace and stability to these countries?

Well?

ET:

Military force alone will not stop terrorism. That is why I don't agree with what is happening in Afghanistan or in Iraq. Perhaps you need to look at how the British neutralized the IRA. With regard to the "Taliban Jack" moniker and his supposed support for the Taliban, the British had to negotiate with the IRA...does that mean they were also traitors?

lberia please provide evidence the Taliban want to come to the negotiation table in good faith? The IRA made that decision; BTW, the IRA didn't seize power in Northern Ireland with the help of a foreign power, so you example is not a very good one.

No British weren't terrorists to negotiate with IRA, once they signalled their intent to parlay peace agreement. Neither were the negotiators with Germany and Japan after WWII. If anyone had suggested negotiations with them during the war, they would have, at best, been severley criticized or, more likely, branded as traitors.

Just tossing around some example that might, or might not be, relevant, is what ET is talking about - the relativism of post modernism, and its tendency to link disparate ideas and thoughts. Heard a great one on the radio driving into work this morning, from anti-SPP Council of Canadians type - "we must strengthen democracy by overriding government." What a beauty!

I'm not stressed about it, no more than I am with a biased MSM. It's only my opinion, and even if I'm right, it is what it is; we have to live with it.

Just like you have to live with the thought of Stephen Harper as Prime Minister of Canada.

Prominent Search engine brings up:
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,740,000 for taliban jack.

Maz2: You need to learn how to use quotes in Google. Searching on Taliban Jack finds all the web pages that contain Taliban and Jack anywhere on the page. To find the phrase Taliban Jack, you need to put quotes around it thus "Taliban Jack". That gets you about 17,000 odd. Still makes your point.

djimbc: It's like when you see one of these people with bolts stuck in their eye brows,or nose rings,or any other foreign object that can puncture one's face,you have to look because you can't believe anyone could be that stupid.

Iberia: a leftard visiting a right wing site,and we're the idiots?Anyone have a mirror for this imbecile?

What skills has Harper got? He's a career politician and I don't think he has any maketable skills.

ok4ua: maketable skills?What,like spelling?

Jack Layton is the only opposition the people have in Ottawa. The liberals flip flop and the bloc is waiting for their next billion.

Does Harper have a brain? Don't worry about spelling. No brains no service.

Still supporting the Tories??? Why>>/?? If there were smart Tories they wouldn't be tories anymore. You guys hope that this time it'll be different. It won't be. I think Jack Layton scares the hell out of you Tories.

Anybody who opposes the war is a traitor. That makes alot of Canadians traitors.. Why should we spend money on a war we cannot win and will come out looking bad. I feel sorry for the kids fighting in it. Would I volunteer to fight? Not likely, at least i'm honest. A lot of you on this blog like to ride on the shoulders of our troops. I make no bones about it and my party doesn't either. It's a bad war. We should get out and become advisors to Afghanistan.