lol you should have watched nova lastnight,it had a show on global dimming,talk about your scare mongers lmao.

The MSM should be more worried about the plague "stupibaccilus" raging throughout their industry's pundits. I don't think there is a cure yet.

Where did some of these so called doctors get their degree? On line from the University of Somalia in a three week course?

***BREAKING NEWS ALERT***

...Scientists discover that living on Earth causes Cancer...

/apologies to the Far Side.

All about raising money for a research project.

I want to study heart disease so I through in the effects of heat on cardiovascular events....bingo I get my research $$ and I get to travel to a couple of equatorial countries and have it paid for....

Thats all this is.

Planet earth must be evacuated immediately! Environmentalists can go first since they can't stand the place...

Fortunately or not, that's how the businesses make money: by fearmongering, scaring in plain English.
That's why our education system is bent on producing nancy-boys and barby-brained girls. Easy to scare - easy to sell.
Consistently, it is not surprising at all, that coffee, red wine, sugar, fat, heat, cold, vegetables, sun, water, air etc. are good or bad depending on who's paying for the currently running commercial (even scientific articles being commercials of some sort).
I give them all a finger and live a life instead. What difference does it make if we live a year longer, or shorter, than average life expectancy, as a result of our good or bad choices in food etc?

Kate. Humans can survive in Germany. You see in Europe they have embraced carbon trading. And as a result of the success of this Germany has reduced temperatures within it's borders. While the rest of the globe will roast Germany will be fine.

It snowed today in many parts of southern Germany. Augsberg, Erding, Laupheim, Lechfeld, Messstetten to name a few.

Move to Germany and you will be safe. Plus they have good beer.

What a ridiculous fluff piece based on no hard science or evidence just a lot of "mights". Heart disease is entirely age related. It's like extrapolating that more Floridians are dying from a heat/heart factor than other states without factoring in that it is a retirement state.

Have generations of urban dwellers been dropping like flies in India? I doubt it. Most people have the brains to stay hydrated and not picnic on concrete in sweltering hot climates long before GW came into vogue.

Why no data or control studies to support heat/heart deaths against whole swatches of people that have always lived in hot humid climates at and below the equator? How could anyone bother crafting this article without that?

The stupidity of journalism meets the stupidity of politized psuedo-science.

the consensus says that living causes death.

I'm waiting for Leo or Al to make a new movie, for Steffi to take up the cause & Tizzy-Lizzy to lead the protest marches to save us from us.

My Gawd the corporate media and corporate science is absolutely obsesses with spewing this climate fear mongering...its so pervasive and obvious only a leftard would miss the purpose of the messaging...all this constant media spew on GW/climate/enviro hyteria ia focused at lending fraudulent credibility to the IN global policy on "sustainability"

“ Sustainable development, as envisioned by the internationalists who promote this policy, is an amalgamation of soviet justice and social order with Fascist economics. This is a joining of the two worst ideals ever to plague mankind. When communism joins with Fascism in a global movement to control and regulate all private property and natural resources, you can be sure “progressive” is an oxymoron to the result and intent. There is NOTHING “progressive” about sustainable development as a political doctrine” (W F Buckley)

Just posted this a few minutes ago:
We to Die in the Cold

You'd expect that even in Sweden the doctors would have heard of air conditioning.

Watching Gore and Moore movies causes "popcorn lung".

Well naturally Kate, living is dangerous to your health!

Now of course you will recall that all the bad weather comes from Hans Island, due to my awesome connection with Divine Providence. :)

This was due to combating Anthropogenic Glow Bull Warming as promulgated by THE GOREACLE.

Of course, there are some internet trollers trying to set up the Hans Island Liberation Front but of course they are ignorant of the true meaning of Christmas.

SEE: http://www.hansislandliberationfront.com/

The key to a "happy heart" is giving.

Secondly when the weather is cold this is a good reason to cuddle up by the fire, bringing much happiness to all. Depending on one's circumstances this may get one's heart going.

Of course the AGW crowd would object to wood fires due to the green house gases being produced.
Thus we conclude AGW apologists are against human love due to the production of greenhouse gases.

Thirdly, if your heart is still, this is usually a good indicator that you didn't get to the specialist in time. Moreover this would decidedly suggest that one is having a conversation with Jesus in the first person, as no translators would be required.

"Be still my heart" is kind of a weird poetic death wish by infatuated lovers.

This is almost as good as Canada Revenue Agency suggesting that I demonstrate "an organ or group of organs would fail" if I withheld insulin from my son.

Anger is another method to get one's heart going, short of electro shock revival methods.

Unfortunately, I had to decline CRA's insane offer to demonstrate organ failure.

The day I go down to the offices of Canada Revenue Agency to demonstrate "group organ failure" for the benefit CRA staff, may also result in some beating hearts to be still.

This would be the day I would earn the appellation:

HER MAJESTY'S ROYAL HUN

Thus to master the storm in your heart Kate, you need come to Hans Island where we offer quiet reflection away from the hustle and bustle of an often wild, wooly and sometimes extremely stupid world.

If you come to Hans Island you may need a musket to fire off some warning shots to the Danes who exhibit Viking tendencies.

John Donne once suggested that "no man is a island" but occasionally this is necessary.

As I suggested to my wife, the gun registryless straight shooting credo on Hans Island is: "Don't be afraid of harsh weather, just throw a log on the fire, and SHOW ME THE LOVE!"

Cheers :)

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht BGS, PDP, CFP

Commander in Chief

Frankenstein Battalion

2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von Baden (Rheinisches) Nr.7(Saarbrucken)

Knecht Rupprecht Division

Hans Corps

1st Saint Nicolaas Army

Army Group “True North”

well I do.

Calvert and Cline also met with the China National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC), which accorded Saskatchewan high priority as a future strategic partner in energy-related investment, research and development and professional training. Minister Cline pursued energy and other Chinese investment opportunities in Saskatchewan further in his meetings with the Ministry of Commerce and the National Development and Reform Commission

http://www.gov.sk.ca/news?newsId=0aa806df-d321-4e43-afd2-62c4954ff2e5

I am reasonably confident that the controlled environment in the interior of Al Gore's private jet will sustain life.

What ever happened to the theory of evolution and natural selection? Would those amongst us with the genetic variations required to survive just wait while the weak drop dead and then move into their turf? Is this not a plot by Ontario to warm up the hinterlands (like Saskatchewan) and kill off the Eskimo inhabitants there? We who are accumstomed to heat and humidity will rule the Great (formerly) White (muddy) North.

LOL... wow, GW's Chicken Littles really are getting down to their last wheeze. But I suppose that's a GW effect, too, right?

This garbage story is just another sign that the MSM is taking over the Tabloid segment. No other choice because the Internet has taken over the real news segment.

Strange, at the hospitals I've worked at, the staff at the coronary care units always dreaded cold weather and snow, 'cause that's when people started going out in cold weather, shovelling snow, pushing cars out of ditches and getting . . . heart attacks!!!!

Kate, perhaps your search functions are superior to what is available to me...

When you mentioned Saskatchewan's forecast, I recalled that in the Spring, some commenter (I believe it was our favourite bird-brain...Alby) had referenced an Environment Canada (I think) website that had provided their forecast for Canada in the summer of 2007...forecasting a warmer than usual summer. Of course, the commenter crowed about this as being further proof of AGW.

Well, now the summer is over and I think this must have been one of the cooler summers we've had in quite some time. Are you able to find that posting and rub someone's nose (beak) in it?

Eeyore,

Go to Google and try something like this:

site:www.smalldeadanimals.com albatros39a forecast

I read the whole article. What a load of fatuous nonsense! "On the sidelines . . . some experts said . . ." -- translation: "While having coffee and looking over the pharmaceutical industry exhibits some cardiologists casually speculated . . . "
Reporter: Could warmer weather produce more heart problems?
Cardiologist (eyeing the latest in drug eleuting stents): Yeah, I s'pose it could; could also reduce some as well, maybe get a few of the lazier ones out exercising.
Reporter: Did more people die from heart problems during the heat wave in France?
Cardiologist (catching sight of former classmate and waving): Yeah, I expect so, kinda like the problems we get during the cold snaps
Reporter: Can I quote you as an expert?
Cardiologist: Hey, Grayson, haven't seen you in years, how's the wife and kids . . .
As for the author's contention that "The human body is not designed to handle extreme heat for long periods of time . . ." depending on one's definition of "extreme" and "long" it's patently not true. Of all the mammals on the planet, humans are actually amongst the best adapted to handle heat, able to perform at a level and for a duration that would leave other mammals prostrate at similar temperatures. I'll stop.

Eeyore, you're missing the essential beauty of the GW argument: if it's too hot, that's global warming; if it's too cold, that's global warming too; and if the weather's exactly the same as it was the year before, it's also just one more damn global warming effect. Your neighbor's painting his fence a funny color could presumably be blamed on global warming somehow or other, too, but you'll have to get your local Suzuki to explain that one to you.

"But because there are so many scientific uncertainties about climate change, like how fast it will occur, or what other factors such as pollution levels or natural phenomena might affect it..."

Or if it's manmade or even occurring at all,perhaps?

Two very clear indications of the MSM's current inclination to create news themselves is their frequent use of unreliable polls and regularly reporting results of uncorroberated scientific 'studies' as fact.You know the stuff I'm talking about....studies that show drinking red wine the second tuesday of every month while standing on one leg may actually reduce the chances of getting hair cancer,or some such other groundbreaking revelation.

Not only has the MSM,in many cases,erased the line between news and editorializing,they are quickly turning the scientific community into not much more than a source of entertainment and amusement(not that scientists themselves have helped matters any).

Thanks for keeping the pressure on these manipulative bastards,Kate.

GDW, I'm not missing the point...I've made that same point myself in earlier postings. I'm just a bit of a nasty bugger who would like to rub sh*t in a moron's face (namely, birdbrain Alby). I was only reminded of this old post about the hot summer forecast when Kate mentioned the Saskatchewan forecast including snow.

By the way, I checked EC's website and found the old forecast for summer, and yes, they were forecasting a warmer-than-usual summer. Then I checked the record of their accuracy and found that their forecasts are just slightly better than random chance. THAT just reinforces my faith in the Kyoto climate models!

With dozens of these "climate hysteria" quasi-subliminal conditioning messagrs in the corporate media showing up on a daily basis over the last number of years, is there doubt the media carry agendas?

In this case they want to stampede the panicked masses towards UN centralist sustainability regulating with climate doom evangelism...of course, the callow leftards are the first to be useful idiots for this global resource control agenda.

How frikking obvious does the motivation and cronyism have to be before we admit this is an collusive effort of the political/acedemic/media/economic elites?

Are we so panic-stricken of the philistines branding us with the "tinfoil hat" epithet to speak the truth?

how many idiots can sit on the head of a pin?

WLMR - "WE" are not panic stricken or fearful of being labeled with those lame lefty epithets.

In fact it's become rather fun to see how many one can collect!

Back on topic..... Proof that some scientists will say absolutely anything to get a little media attention!
Isn't it amazing how the MSM has a steady supply of "experts" to trot out in support of ANY story line?

Cause it ain't about facts ...... it's about the story to be told.

Humans can't handle heat eh???? I read in the book "Our Kind", that no other mammal can outdo the human in handling heat and stress. The examples given were of hunters on foot being able to run (jog) down any species of mammal. The book claimed that in hot climates aboriginal hunters would "dog" game to death because only the human brain and cardio-system could withstand prolonged heat stress.

Reminds me of a guy I knew who would run down whitetailed deer during hunting season when there was fresh snow on the ground ... he and his brother would find one in the a.m., follow it relentlessly forcing it to run (they'd be on foot too), and always get it by evening.

Bring on the heat!

Anybody know how I can get a grant studying how being born leads to AGW and death?Heck,I've got half the problem beat if I just ignore cooling/warming.

Jmorrison ponders: "how many idiots can sit on the head of a pin?"

Dunno...but objective optics would hold that you could stack billions of leftard brains on the head of that pin ;D

Message From The Nanny State: Attention All Campers!

Ahem!
If it is cold out, be sure to take your mittens with you.
If it is hot out, be sure to wear a hat and sunscreen.

That Will Be All.

It's nothing but Global Swarming of Idiots of the first order, none of them have a freaking clue.
Presenting themselves as experts and they know less than Chief Sitting Bull about climatology and weather patterns.

There is one thing we could do to curtail another type of pollution and it's slay the Beast known as CBC. Tonight they're showing Fahrenheit 9/11 the work of one of their Bush hating heroes. Tell me they don't have an agenda.

Also with agendas are the knobs who call themselves journalists who snidely refer to Harper as President Harper.

It's about time these guys got on board .

Technically speaking, they're right. A major rise in temperature WOULD mean more heart attacks and deaths.

Of course, that means more old people would die, while the population in general would continue to grow.

Looks like "global warming" is just natures response to our social security problem :)

Bill D. Cat... love that link!

Guess I'm sunk. I blew my nose today. Shouldn't have used a kleenex... should have just plugged one nostril and...

Damn it!

Oops, that's 2 sins. Damn it!

(Make that 3)

Joe B. So am I condemned for having three farts after Barbing my steak? Damn.And my pilsner was letting CO2 out before I drank it!So. Should I grow tomatos next year or not? LOL

Hey everybody! Global warming is a fact! Ask any school kid! It is being taught in school as gospel, using "science" and influential, knowledgeable people such as Leo DeCaprio, Sting, Al Gore and whoever is on the front of "people" magazine. Our kids minds are getting so screwed up.......

How bout that snowfall in Germany last night?

And on another note.... Leo's, "The 11th Hour," a complete bomb at the box office.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,295768,00.html

"Further studies will determine if the higher death rate associated with cold is preventable."

http://tinyurl.com/2jzw7x

It's always the feet first ... maybe seal skin boots? I need money to do a further study ... effects of a toque, mitts vs gloves, yellow snow, etc. No donation is to large ... think of your granny and your children/grandchildren, orphans, feral cats, etc.

"How bout that snowfall in Germany last night?

Posted by: set you free at September 5, 2007 10:59 PM"

One day you deniers are putting up pictures of temperature sensors and talking about snow in Germany. The next, links to Bjorn Lomborg are all over the place telling how great global warming will be and yelling climate changes, it's natural that climates change.
So what exactly are you arguing, that man made global warming isn't happening or that global warming isn't happening? I wish you people would get on the same song sheet, your tune is sounding a little confused. So come on, what exactly are you trying to deny AWG or GW, make up your minds?

Kate
I'm wondering where "Accuweather" got that forecast from, it reads like the Farmers Almanac? Why haven't you used the Farmers Almanac in your silly and feeble attempts to "disprove" the science of man made global warming Kate. Hey, it's as credible as all the other sources you've used to date.

So really, what’s the problem with the article? They did correctly point out that 35000 died during the 2003 heat wave in Europe. In the article it said, “experts say that much of that was due to heart problems in the elderly worsened by the extreme heat”; what did you cons think the cause of death was, chickenpox? Oh I know what the problem is, they used that forbidden word in the article, “evolution”.

"I'm just a bit of a nasty bugger who would like to rub sh*t in a moron's face (namely, birdbrain Alby).

Posted by: Eeyore at September 5, 2007 5:19 PM"

You've just got to love these internet tough guys hidding behind their keyboards, but I'm sure the "nasty bugger" stuff can be remedied by a shower and bit of deodorant.

They got everybody blabbering this global warming poppycock bull kaka and the sinsier AL GORE is the big bad wolf behind it all and gore have ytaken chicken littles job away

Eeyore...
He's really pissed at ya. Good one!

Looks to be "Mission accomplished".

Yeah, Joe B...mission accomplished. What's even more amusing is Mr. "Green Tough Guy" Alby Anonymous posting about ME hiding behind MY keyboard. He truly is blind and stupid.

I'm a little bewildered as to what everyone's so worked up about here. The experts quoted aren't endorsing man-made climate change (the first clearly said "If" in regards to higher temperatures), just pointing out that sustained higher temperatures will probably lead to more cardiovascular problems. That humans have evolved to function well in high temperatures doesn't mean that those are ideal conditions for us: to use the doctor's analogy, my car was designed to go up to 140 km/hr, but running at those speeds contantly would cause it to break down faster. At the other extreme, never using it at all would also damage it. This doesn't really prove anything about science, the media or global warming.

"This doesn't really prove anything about science, the media or global warming."

Mark: There are none so blind as those who will not see.

In this age of Machiavellian globalist intrigues and manipulation of public opinion, there is no such thing as a coincidence or pure fact in any corporate media out put.

As you say if this does not prove anything why is it published? Why publis vacant chatter which paints a doomsday scenario of tropical heat and human cardiovascular failure if you are not attempting to alarm people needlessly?...Better still why plant these heat realted doomsday pieces beside a global warming article ...and why is this a established pattern with the MSM?

Media know that alarm (fear) is the ultimate public motivator...why are they alarming the public...what's their game? How ill media profit from public fear?

Sorry, I should have been more clear: contrary to what posters here seem to think, this article proves nothing about the science of global warming (it says nothing about it) or scientists (the ones quoted therin are refreshingly reticient about talking about matters outside their expertise). As to media sensationalism, that has been around since the first neanderthal scratched the first saber-toothed tiger in a cave wall. If the climate is changing, for whatever reason, I would hope that our medical professionals were thinking of all possible consequences related to it and our journalists were informing us on the latest thinking on the issue.
I'm not in the least bit 'alarmed' by this - they're not predicting that everyone's going to die of coronaries at age forty if global temperatures go up.

These eco-wackos seem to think that the most teenie weenie rise in tempeture is a disaster when it has happened before without cuasing world wide catastorophy

One more for alby:

A golf tournament in Switzerland had to be delayed two hours on Thursday because of, get this on Sept. 6, FROST.

The climate is changing! The climate is changing!

Send dollars to the Goracle and ye shall be saved!

"set you free at September 7, 2007 1:17 AM"

Please learn the difference between weather and climate.

In case you haven't heard
http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=3780ea4a-4505-4498-add0-adf08627f728&k=8948