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Six members of the Paw family, each listing the house at 41 Shelbourne Ave. as their residence, have donated a combined $45,000 to the Democratic senator from New York since 2005, for her presidential campaign, her Senate re-election last year and her political action committee. In all, the six Paws have donated a total of $200,000 to Democratic candidates since 2005, election records show. | ![]() |
More - Where there's a Clinton, can shady financers be far away?
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Must be all that money they saved by not hiring a landscaper.
Posted by: The Phantom at August 28, 2007 1:03 PMor a house painter who wasn't color blind.
Posted by: Fred at August 28, 2007 1:06 PMNothing to see her. The Clinton's integrity is unimpeachable....errrrr...forget about that one...
Posted by: Daverbonz at August 28, 2007 1:12 PMThis smells to high heaven. Unfortunately the Hillary loving MSM won't run with it.
A single income mailman forks over $200,000 in the past 2 years to Dem candidates, but, never gave a dime until 3 years before. Please, please, let this go before a jury of regular folks, hey, even third graders. There is a money laundering offense to this, besides breaking campaign contribution laws.
The Clintons weren't nicknamed The First Grifters for nothing.
Posted by: penny at August 28, 2007 1:13 PM"There is no factual support for this story and if Mr. Hsu's name was Smith or Jones, I don't believe it would be a story." He didn't elaborate.
He didn't need to elaborate...you're questioning a Democrat ergo, you must be a racist.
Posted by: Boudicae at August 28, 2007 1:14 PMI think SOOOOOOMMMMMTTTTTTHHHHHHIIIIINNNGGGGGG smells fishy here ! Identical amounts ? Postal worker ? Green Card in 82 ? Lives in trailer? Total Giving = $200,00.00 ? Yeaaaaaaaa Right !!!!!!
Posted by: Orlin at August 28, 2007 1:19 PMMove along now ...... shows over folks.
Clinton and company not doing anything inappropriate .... never have never will....
Looks like Chretien's Liberal backroom boys found new employment.
After all, the Shawinigan Strangler and Clinton were pals, right?
Posted by: GreenNeck at August 28, 2007 1:39 PMMaybe they got loans from Joe Volpe's kids?
Posted by: andycanuck at August 28, 2007 1:51 PMHehe well I hope the Paws enjoy their upcoming fun. Their about to have the equivalent of a colonoscopy performed upon them by several agencies, with the IRS calling first dibs.
Posted by: JD at August 28, 2007 2:01 PMNow I take it the head of this family would be Paw Paw?
Posted by: ebt at August 28, 2007 2:45 PMHil.must have taken Fundraising 101 from Volpe!Were any of this family legally dead??
Posted by: Sammy at August 28, 2007 2:58 PMIT TAKE A VILLAGE IDIOTS TO MAKE GOOD CHILD INTO A WHINNY LITTLE LIBERAL BRAT WANTING TO HUG TREES EAT VEGGIE BURGERS AND CALL THE EARTH THEIR MOTHER
Posted by: spurwing plover at August 28, 2007 3:43 PM*Opens SDA door and peaks inside, surprised to find a room full of wankers engaged in mutual masturbation*
Hello...? Oops, wrong room - I was looking for critical discussion.
Posted by: anon at August 28, 2007 3:45 PMHey it's the democrats, it must be on the up-and-up, surely.
Posted by: WImpy Canadian at August 28, 2007 4:07 PMI think the correct term would be there is something rotten in Democrat er Denmark!
Posted by: adrian smits at August 28, 2007 4:13 PMIs that home an indication of a "subprime mortgage" in all its splendor?
Posted by: Joe at August 28, 2007 4:13 PMWo ai zhongguo ren.
Wo ai zhongguo ren.
Wo ai zhongguo ren.
Ni hao ma; ni hao ma; ni hao ma; zaijien!
The article made Drudge. Yes!
Posted by: penny at August 28, 2007 4:16 PM
If I was a member of the Paw Family I wouldn't be caught dead in Fort Macey park !!!
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The MSM will eventually run this article under the heading:
Bush orders illegal probe to discredit Hillary
Anon, you shouldn't be so critical of wankers, as they say 1% admits to it, the other 99% lies about it.
Anon: It is back to rabble and kos for you. this site is for grown-ups. After you wash your mouth out with soap first, that is.
Posted by: Texas Canuck at August 28, 2007 4:34 PMNothing like getting caught redhanded to take the humor out of a situation, eh Anon?
Actually it does the trick for Hillary.
It's the Paws that refreshes.
Posted by: rockyt at August 28, 2007 5:13 PM>> "This smells to high heaven. Unfortunately the Hillary loving MSM won't run with it."
Um... what source exactly do you think Kate linked to here?
Huffington already talked about this issue. It's boring, but perfect for the SDA echo chamber.
You guys really have the ol' "circle jerk" vibe going strong over here.
Posted by: anon at August 28, 2007 5:22 PMIn actual fact this isn't surprising or unusual, especially for those desiring power and those who want to help said person get the power. Just ask ole Joe "I have no mob connections" Volpe how it works. The common thread is that wanna be kings and king makers will find ways of doing things. The Clintons have a very deep closet when it comes to the quest for power. Whether it is he or she or both that have the ambition, I don't really know.
BTW anon, nice cherry picking.
Posted by: Texas Canuck at August 28, 2007 5:30 PMThe address is less than two miles from San Francisco's southern border, but SURPRISE! the story didn't make it onto the San Franciso Chronicle's web site. The web site does, however, have room for important stories such as "Fewer Unwanted Pit Bulls in SF" and "A Vow to Tackle Urban PTSD".
Posted by: Silicon Valley Jim at August 28, 2007 5:35 PMHey leftard idiot. You come to a right wing blog and read right wing stuff. What did you expect? A gay love in? A prayer for the pedophile martyr? Support of AGW? Are you a total f@#$ing moron?
Posted by: kingstonlad at August 28, 2007 5:36 PMThe long suffering Hillary will make it to the White House and Billy Boy can have all the fun.
Posted by: Liz J at August 28, 2007 5:47 PM>> "but SURPRISE! the story didn't make it onto the San Franciso Chronicle's web site."
because, of course, everyone there is NO such thing as copyright laws in San Francisco!!
Posted by: Ted at August 28, 2007 6:05 PMdamn those rich democrat civil servants. btw, san fran is now trying to get black americans to return to the city. not sure why the hell they would want to.
Posted by: jmorrison at August 28, 2007 6:08 PM"The long suffering Hillary will make it to the White House ..."
Not a chance.
It's all theater.
Americans may often be fools, but not when the chips are down.
Posted by: peter o'keefe at August 28, 2007 6:09 PMAnon, does the Neptec Design Group know what you do on their computers during the day? If you don't like the discussion here, you know where the door is.
Posted by: Kate at August 28, 2007 6:29 PMLooks like the Paws didn't get their tax deduction for the political donations :D
Interestingly enough the "Paws" are common in Liberal ridings north and south of 49th.
If the genetic pattern is linear the 6 Paws will be casting 12 ballots. ;-)
Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at August 28, 2007 6:38 PMThis may not be an issue today or in the near future, but once she gets the nomination we can expect a 'swift-boat'-like attack by the reps IF it is in their interest (i.e. if they do not have similar suspect donors).
Also, it is very doubtful that this is the only money-laundering scheme going on. Remember this is in large part what brought Nixon down...
Posted by: Gord Tulk at August 28, 2007 6:39 PMJeeze, trolls are busy today eh? Probably trying to get in some quality trolling before school starts next week.
Posted by: The Phantom at August 28, 2007 6:59 PM>> "but SURPRISE! the story didn't make it onto the San Franciso Chronicle's web site."
because, of course, everyone there is NO such thing as copyright laws in San Francisco!!
and because the Chronicle is incapable of doing investigative reporting
and because the Chronicle is incapable of putting a link to the WSJ story on its page
and because the Chronicle is incapable of paying the WSJ to put the story on its page (much of the Chronicle's content is either wire-service feed or has come from other newspapers)
etc.
and evidently there is no such thing as proper punctuation or agreement of verb and predicate nominative in some people's heads
Posted by: Silicon Valley Jim at August 28, 2007 7:02 PMSilicon:
The WSJ "broke" the story TODAY, if it turns out to be a story. The second a story like this breaks, other papers don't have any right to it and they don't put links on their sites to competitor's news items. Fancy that.
Typically, if a paper doesn't have a syndicalization arrangement beforehand, they'll not sell the story until a day or so later so they can get the mileage out of it. Especially, if there is a series of follow-ups over the next few days. By then, the others aren't so interested in paying because they'll have read the original article and sent their own reporters to gather the same information.
Just checked my calender. And 'lo... it's still August 28!
What you don't seem to acknowledge is that media is business. They try to make money. They don't make money if they give their product away or tell their readers to go elsewhere. Anyone who just takes a story is stealing it.
Posted by: Ted at August 28, 2007 7:22 PMSilicon, Penny, other Vast Leftwing Media Conspiracy theorists: As predicted by anyone with any objectivity and a quarter of a brain, the story has indeed been picked up by many many papers and other media: news.google.com/news?tab=wn&ie=UTF-8&ncl=1120041913&hl=en
Some are reporting on the news of the WSJ story, others on their own digging or the Clinton response.
People, you have to relax a bit, loosen the tin foil hats.
At the very least, don't whine about the media not jumping all over a story that is hours old one day, and then whining about what a horrible media we have the next because they put an article up without independently verifying every single fact (which, guess what, takes more time).
Posted by: Ted at August 28, 2007 7:27 PMHey, Ted, right hat, wrong crowd.
The Wapo, the NYT's, CNN, NPR, CBS, pick any evening news you want, etc can report the story "as revealed by the Wall Street Journal today", happens all of the time, your garbage about syndication rights is nonsense.
"if it turns out to be a story".....looks well documented to me, the WSJ doesn't have a legacy of poorly vetting or egregious well publicized corrections. Or, a question to you, what part of the story doesn't look like a story to Ted's eyes?
But, I know you were trying to make a point here and it was?........
Posted by: penny at August 28, 2007 7:43 PMFunny you should mention the NYT, CNN, CBS (and you could have mentioned NBC and a few others), since SURPRISE SURPRISE they are indeed already reporting it.
Ah, but the oh so astute Silicon and Penny are on the ready for that deft use of FACTS and basic reality to counter their conspiracy theory. Within in minutes they'll point out that there are some media that haven't yet reported on this hours old story so THERE. Proof positive!!!!!
Vast Leftwing Media Conspiracy Theorists of the world, untie, er, UNITE!
Let me sign up. Pass me a tin foil hat!
Posted by: Ted at August 28, 2007 7:47 PMAs usual Ted you have nothing to add and are late to the game. Have you always finished last ted?
Posted by: missing link at August 28, 2007 7:54 PM"What you don't seem to acknowledge is that media is business."
So is prostitution but one is legal one isn't...go figure. Media whores=business but common whore=criminal....must be a matter of how much political juice your patronage has.
Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at August 28, 2007 8:11 PMShe means well. Isn't that enough?
Posted by: Shaken at August 28, 2007 8:21 PMPass me a tin foil hat!
Love to, Ted, but, they are in short supply here.
Posted by: penny at August 28, 2007 8:24 PMAll used up, eh, penny? No surprise you've run out.
Posted by: Ted at August 28, 2007 8:25 PMAll used up, eh, penny?
Not standard issue here, Ted, no inventory to lend out. Sorry.
But, back to my question...."Or, a question to you, what part of the story doesn't look like a story to Ted's eyes?" Let's not globalize of obfuscate with a lame departure into "Vast Leftwing Media Conspiracy Theorists", specifically defend your statement "if it turns out to be a story". Just do it, Ted, answer that question.
I missed your answer.
Exactly, penny, don't change the topic.
You claimed that "The Media" wouldn't cover this.
There are plenty of reasons why other competing media would not yet have covered an hours old story. Even then, some already have covered it.
Are you now retracting your unsupported/unsupportable inference?
Posted by: Ted at August 28, 2007 8:44 PMLooks like some extremists are posting lately. I'm not a Hillary fan, but folks this is not a story. Ho hum "everybody's doin it doin it"!
Methinks the Idaho Senator will put this on the back pages!
Daly City! The home town of Sly (and the Family)Stone. Believe it is largely Chinese today. Love that green.
Posted by: CJ at August 28, 2007 9:01 PMHey! What happened to the picture? it was there this morning. Gone now.
Posted by: jt at August 28, 2007 9:07 PMA brief refresher course on some recent Republican corruption...
Tom Delay:
Participated in a conspiracy to funnel corporate donations to state political candidates through the Republican National Committee. Forced ito step down as House Republican leader after he was indicted by a Texas grand jury on charges of conspiracy. He is the first House leader to be indicted while in office in more than a century. DeLay's former chief of staff, Tony Rudy, pleaded guilty to conspiracy and promised to help with a federal investigation of bribery and lobbying fraud relating to Abramoff. Rudy admitted conspiring with Abramoff — both while Rudy worked for the Texas congressman and after he left the lawmaker's staff to become a lobbyist himself. He is the second former DeLay staffer to plead guilty to federal charges in connection with the lobbying probe.
Bill Frist:
He made a fortune through the family business, Hospital Corporation of America. HCA has profited mightily, even beyond what is allowed by law. HCA was fined $840 million in criminal fines, civil penalties and damages for unlawful billing practices. These infractions came in the form of over-billing Medicare, Medicaid and the Defense Department's health care system. Frist's latest ethical problems arise from violating the spirit of the blind trust and insider trading, for which he is being investigated by the SEC.
John Boehner:
Elevated to the position of Republican house leader to replace disgraced former leader Tom Delay. Boehner himself is a prime example of congressional corruption. His political action committee collected nearly $300,000 from private student lending companies and for-profit academic institutions from 2003-2004. He has taken more than $157,000 in free trips, placing him in 7th place for such questionable activity. More than 20 of his staff members have taken jobs in the private sector as lobbyists or corporate public affairs specialists. He handed out checks to his colleagues from tobacco company political action committees on the floor of Congress in 1995.
JohnnyRingo - and your point is..... how about Jim McGreevey, Gary Hart, Barney Franks, Congressman Gerald Ford Jr, Rep. William Jefferson, impeached Bill Clinton, etc.......score keeping a thing with you.
The issue is today's news. That's your best shot? Any idiot can play your ame.
Posted by: penny at August 28, 2007 11:25 PM
JohnnyRingo - and your point is..... how about Jim McGreevey, Gary Hart, Barney Franks, Congressman Gerald Ford Jr, Rep. William Jefferson, impeached Bill Clinton, etc.......score keeping a thing with you.
The issue is today's news. That's your best shot? Any idiot can play your ame.
Posted by: penny at August 28, 2007 11:26 PM
Trollapalooza today. Figures, somebody finds crud under Saint Hillary's finger nails and the friggin' moonbats go haywire.
She's dirty! Head to toe, stem to gudgeon, always has been. So's Saint Bubba the convicted liar. Get over it.
Moveon.yore.momma.com/
Posted by: The Phantom at August 28, 2007 11:54 PM"Pass me a tin foil hat!"
Is that it Ted? Is this sad illusionary cliche that dimisses substantive argument with snide ad hominem innuendo all you have? No factual counter argument?
Frik you reactionaries are boring.
Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at August 29, 2007 8:42 AMDon't forget, she also speaks for brothels and prostitutes!
Posted by: grok at August 29, 2007 9:46 AMWL:
As a Canadian, what do I care if the supporters of yet another Republican or Democrat has played loose with the law? I'd be surprised if any President has ever won the election clean. From my POV though, history is pretty clear that Republicans and Democrats are equally good and equally bad for Canada. So how I would vote if I was American and who I want to win as a Canadian are different things.
I was just addressing the myth of The Vast Leftwing Media Conspiracy which raises its silly head even in this discussion, even when the assertions are obviously wrong.
Besides, we've got our own campaign finance problems right in the PMO's office with Chretien and the Liberals and now Harper and the Conservatives.
Posted by: Ted at August 29, 2007 10:24 AMSo Penny and others here support Republican corruption but criticize Democrats on their improprieties. I for one can't stand Hillary Clinton, and if these stories in the WSJ (which is part of the MSM, you boneheads) lead to criminal wrongdoings, she should pay the price.
The question is, why does Penny support Republican corruption? Letting your ideology lead you by the nose?
Posted by: JohnnyRingo at August 29, 2007 11:11 AMOh, and Penny - if you think the issue is today's news, why ya dredgin' up yesterdays news, genius? Gary Hart, yeah, that's like, really current. You, my dear, are brilliant in your inability to make a point. That takes a special talent.
Oh man...hey Penny et al, here's something for your "current events" file. Another Republican sex scandal? How...unfortunate.
From the New York Times...
"...Just when Republicans thought things could not get any worse, Senator Larry E. Craig of Idaho confirmed that he had pleaded guilty to misdemeanor charges of disorderly conduct after an undercover police officer accused him of soliciting sex in June in a Minneapolis airport restroom. On Tuesday, Mr. Craig, 62, held a news conference to defend himself, calling the guilty plea “a mistake” and declaring, “I am not gay” — even as the Senate Republican leadership asked for an Ethics Committee review.
It was a bizarre spectacle, and only the latest in a string of accusations of sexual foibles and financial misdeeds that have landed Republicans in the political equivalent of purgatory, the realm of late-night comic television.
Forget Mark Foley of Florida, who quit the House last year after exchanging sexually explicit e-mail messages with under-age male pages, or Jack Abramoff, the lobbyist whose dealings with the old Republican Congress landed him in prison. They are old news, replaced by a fresh crop of scandal-plagued Republicans, men like Senator David Vitter of Louisiana, whose phone number turned up on the list of the so-called D.C. Madam, or Senator Ted Stevens of Alaska and Representative Rick Renzi of Arizona, both caught up in F.B.I. corruption investigations.
It is enough to make a self-respecting Republican want to tear his hair out in frustration, especially as the party is trying to defend an unpopular war, contain the power of the new Democratic majority on Capitol Hill and generate some enthusiasm among voters heading toward the presidential election in 2008."
Posted by: JohnnyRingo at August 29, 2007 1:38 PMHillary's Mysterious Benefactor Mr. Hsu Is A Fugitive Wanted By The Law. From the Aces of Spades
http://minx.cc/?post=238722
Posted by: Orlin at August 29, 2007 2:41 PMcool it you people. this is the perfect site for USHCN to plant another temp probe. thats the real story!!!
Posted by: spike at August 29, 2007 6:40 PMDebunked. That didn't take long.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200708280016?f=h_latest
Posted by: Dodos at August 29, 2007 7:13 PM