John Robarts second to last?

Interesting that so few rank Robarts as a great premier...which he was....just looks like there is typical leftbot revisionism in the public school history courses.

Robarts enjoyed a long popular tenure as Premier and is responsible for many of the programs, policues and public works that define the province...between Drew-Frost-Robarts-Davis the PC ran the province from 1943-1985 unbroken....the greatest period of middle class prosperity in the province's history.

When the Ontraio voters started playing with dipper and lib administrations there was always a period of dystopian ineptitude as these parties have no skill sets within them to govern/administer...The McGuinty regime is the most glaring example of a blind drunk set loose at a party with a loaded gun.

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Yes Mike is up front -- what a leader we had in him .... I wish he woudl have stuck around longer but there is only so much you can without backlash -- hope Mike wins hands down

Are you serious about Grant Devine??! I mean seriously! This is the guy who ran us into debt and was in power for 5 years plus a day so that all the MPs could get full pension. He did a lot of things right I admit but greatest one! I don't think so.

Definitely strange about Robarts. I ranked him third (after Frost & Davis). Then again, I preferred Rae's appalling ineptitude to Peterson's cynical corruption, so go figure.

Robarts: An 'age thing', most respondents to this poll are likely too young to have even HEARD of him.

Herringchoker:

If you read the page, you'll see that only first place votes count in this round.

Anyone else find it strange that Sir Oliver Mowat got more than 400 votes in the span of a couple of hours?

WLMR: "When the Ontraio voters started playing with dipper and lib administrations there was always a period of dystopian ineptitude..."

Or did you mean "diaper and bib" administrations?

Actually, Oliver Mowat was, by far, the best premier in Ontario history. Do a little reading before you vote. Mowat fought hard and successfully for provincial resource rights and, by the end of his term as premier, had won several important cases at the Privy Council that changed Confederation from an Ottawa-centric to a true federal system.
Keep in mind that what the Liberals of the 19th century stood for -- secular schools, free trade, provincial rights, Western development -- are pretty much the same as what Tories stand for now. The Tories of the 19th century believed in big handouts to railways, centralized government, and trade protectionism.

Bob Rae anywhere in the top 10?

Well, I don't think John Tory will ever make it. I have no idea who is advising him, but this business about funding all faith based schools is the most retarded platform plank I can remember in recent memory for any party in any national or provincial juridiction.

Who does he think will benefit from this most? Whose votes is he trying to buy? Any chance they will ever vote conservative??

Answers: Religion of hate; Religion of Hate; NO.

They will take more tax dollars (as if they don't take enough), and continue to teach Islamic supremacism in their schools, and sow future societal discord.

The only for reducing the future destructive impact of Islam on Canada is to educate their children in the public school system, AWAY from religion. Otherwise the cycle of brainwashing and hate will only continue.

I just can't imagine what was going through John Tory's brain when he came up with, or did not fire the advisor who came up with, this idea. It boggles the mind.

Make me wonder if he would have had the sense, as McGinty did at least, to block Sharia law from entering Ontario.

I'm also puzzled that there has been no reaction to this on the conservative blogs. Is this an embarrassed silence, or does someone actually think this is a good idea?

Lori,

The people who are most agitating for support for religious schools are not Muslims; they are Jews.

I was in the public school system up to grade 9; then I went to a private boys' school for grades 10-13. There, at Prayers each morning, we said two prayers, heard a bible lesson, and sang a hymn. It was all Anglican, and since I'd been raised in the United Church, some of the prayers were unknown to me. But listening to them certainly didn't convert me to the Anglican church.

I asked one of my Jewish friends what he thought (yes, they have Jews at UCC), and he said "I ignore what doesn't apply to me, listen to some, and if I like the hymn being sung, I'll sing along for the enjoyment".

But I can understand the resentment of some when Catholics are allowed to raise their kids in their religion (which my wife and I are doing with our two girls), and everyone else is forced to put their kids into the secular humanist value-free public schools (unless they're rich enough to both pay school taxes and private school fees.)

Voucher systems are the only fair answer. Of course, the teachers' union will fight that tooth and nail.

I have two kids in public school in Toronto. The quality of the schooling is mediocre, even though we are in an excellent neighbourhood and the parents are very involved. Lots of reasons, from complacent teachers to zero leadership from the principal (we have had 5 in 6 years)

I'd love a voucher system.

But this faith based idiocy - what votes will it buy? What purpose will it serve? It's just a waste!!

If John Tory wants to see a majority and leave Ontario a legacy gift he will put an end to native terrorism and Six nations organized crime industry.

Ontario voters are sick of living with abominated dual standard law enforcement.

If there was a vote to put GRant Divine as the worst premier I would vote for him...and I am a conservative.

lori, john tory knows nothing about islam. kevin the jews as a population wouldn't use 1% of edu money and wouldn't cut your head off for not being one, a jew that is.

Kate - thanks galvonizing SDAers to vote. I have to take issue with your comment that my link to rabble.ca caused you to vote for Devine. My other links, such as Andrew Coyne or Paul Wells, are not representative of some leftist-only blogger. Rabble is merely amusing as well as political.

The SDA lovefest for Devine is about as shocking as another bombing in Iraq.