"having one's genitals sliced half off in the name of Muslim purity"

Genital mutilation has more to do with social customs than religion. For example:

Clitoridectomy involves the removal or splitting of the clitoral hood, termed "hoodectomy" (or "clitorodotomy"), with or without excision of the clitoris, see Diagram 1B. The clitoral hood is the female prepuce, homologous to the foreskin of the male. This term was devised in The Sudan by the Anglo-Sudanese administration in 1946 in an attempt to promote this "milder" form of FGC instead of the more severe Type III, infibulation or pharaonic circumcision, that was widely practiced.[8] Although labeled Sunna by Islamic advocates of the practice, most Muslim clergy oppose all forms of female genital cutting as it is viewed as a social custom, rather than a religious practice. According to Dr. Sami A. Aldeeb Abu-Salieh at the Swiss Institute of Comparative Law:

Islamic juridical logic cannot acknowledge the distinction between female and male circumcision, both being the mutilation of healthy organs which is damaging to the physical integrity of the child, whatever the underlying religious motivations. Furthermore, both practices violate the Koran: "Our Lord, You did not create all this in vain" (3:191), and "[He] perfected everything He created" (32:7).
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Female genital cutting is today mainly practiced in African countries. It is common in a band that stretches from Senegal in West Africa to Somalia on the East coast, as well as from Egypt (Who have just banned FGC[12]) in the north to Tanzania in the south, see Map. In these regions, it is estimated that more than 95% of all women have undergone this procedure. It is also practiced by some groups in the Arabian peninsula, especially among a minority (20%) in Yemen.[13]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_cutting

Regarding the Taliban treatment of women, that's a social custom too, not a religious one:

While in power in Afghanistan, the Taliban became notorious internationally for their treatment of women. Their stated aim was to create "secure environments where the chasteness and dignity of women may once again be sacrosanct." [3] The way women were treated was reportedly based on Pashtunwali beliefs about living in purdah.[4]
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Purdah or Pardaa (Persian/Urdu: پردہ, Hindi: पर्दा literally meaning "curtain") is the practice of preventing men from seeing women. This takes two forms: physical segregation of the sexes, and the requirement for women to cover their bodies and conceal their form. Purdah exists in various forms in the Islamic world and in India.
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In historically Islamic Arab countries, such as Saudi Arabia, purdah is a custom with cultural rather than religious basis. Even in the United Arab Emirates, where women can wear skirts and similar modest garments, Arab women often observe purdah. It is important to differentiate between purdah and hijab. Hijab is an Islamic tradition that is based on physical and psychological morality, while purdah does not necessarily conform to Islamic teachings.
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Pashtunwali (Pashto: پختونوالی) is a concept of living for the Pashtun people (also known as Pathans), which dates back to pre-Islamic eras. Pashtunwali is also an honour-code and a non-written law.[1] Some people consider it as part of an ancient religion due to the fact that Pashtuns practiced the worshipping of one God only, while the nearby Hindus prayed to multiple gods. Among the Pashtuns in India, the practice is called Pathanwali.[2] It is practiced by Pashtuns in Pakhtunkhwa, Rohilkhand, and members of the Pashtun diaspora.[3]
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This is an ancient feudal tribal "code of honour" that belongs to the Central Asian landscape, particularly to Afghanistan and western Pakistan, which is still much enforced in those areas.

Being a Pashtun means an ancient traditional, spiritual, and communal identity tied to a specific set of rules, codes, and a linear record of history spanning over five thousand years

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pashtunwali

With all due respect Andrew, with those savages, the religion is the culture.

Check out how massive Avi's head is compared to his puny shoulders. He clearly suffers from Giant Melon/Tiny Brain syndrome. Poor baby, he'll just have to console himself with our tax dollars.

If the left will not support women like Hirsi Ali, who have been perscuted in their own countries, who will? is female emancipation only for white middle class women living in the Anex or Riverdale.

Poor, poor Avi... he comes across like a grade 9 student working for the school newspaper interviewing a university prof. Totally out of his depth.

For those of you who are keeping score at home, what Andrew attempted to do there was to distract this discussion from the substantive issues raised by Kate's article. Whether or not he succeedes in his attempted use of that classic troll-baiting form depends on you, dear reader.

How bad is avi lewis? So bad that Simpson of the Globe once criticized the CBC for giving him a curent affairs show. I remember he referred to him as "this grinning young man."
And that giant head; sort of a jack o' lantern effect, without the light inside.

Then why are lots of Imams shouting that immodest dress is un-Islamic and a sign of western decadence? See Hilali of "uncovered meat" fame in Australia for a recent example.

Ah, Avi. Has he ever met an opinion other than his with anything other than airy disdain. The man truly does not belive that you can come to America and make something for yourself. And you cannot get into office without millions of dollars and connections. Bobby Jindal should give him a call. Let's develop a list of US politicians who are immigrants or the children of immigrants of modest means. House, Senate or Governor. Arnie Doesn't count.

I can think of Mike Dukakis and Bobby Jindal but there must be many more.

And we all know connections and money taint you, says the son of a famed diplomat and journalist mother.

Here's an idea. A two pronged approach for the satisfaction of any rational person:

1. A deserved, necessary and rational moratorium on Muslim immigration.

2. Deport the leftists to Saudi Arabia. If they won't take them, a derelict boat in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean can be arranged, from where they can appeal to the Muslim Nations to take them in as victims of a humanitarian crisis.

Avi wanted to know if she got the cliche's about America i a school only because he got his left wing cliches from a book, likely written by his partner or one of his parents.

I cannot believe we, the taxpayer, keep employing this annoying shitzu of a person. I just kept hiping there was something he said that I couldnt have predicted

And the whoa whoa whoa....wtf was that? Is Avi trying to be Stephen Colbert? What a din*

Most staggering to me is the depth of Avi Lewis' leftist idealism, moral bankruptcy and unabashed anti-Americanism.

To him, islamists and evangelical Christians are morally equivalent, islam is perfectly analagous to any other world religion, America is a theocracy when Republicans rule the roost, and America is not a land of freedom and opportunity with an established rule of law.

And to think he gets to spout this leftist crap on the taxpayer dime. My blood, it boils.

It is indeed sad when people's lives become chatter fodder for the ignorant who think that life does not have relevance beyond the cliches they so casually toss back and forth. Avi thinks that the truths he is hearing from Ayaan are cliches because all he hears from his compadres are cliches.

How did she not choke the s*%t out of that pencil necked little ponce? That woman has steel in her!

stephen Reeves, didn't you know? Of course the rules only apply to those born in NA or Europe.

110,000 Canadians can die for Europe, but 66 is FAR too many for those brown people. That is "logic" they profess without even knowing it.

"Most staggering to me is the depth of Avi Lewis' leftist idealism, moral bankruptcy and unabashed anti-Americanism"
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Most staggering to me is that I have to pay for that crap. Please, please, please privatize the CBC. NOW!!!

When I saw this at Hot Air I wanted to comment on it and tell the readers a bit about Avi Lewis, but alas, I always manage to miss the brief little windows when Michelle Malkin opens up the registration.

That this man and his dizty wife, Naomi Klein, can get so much media attention in the country, is pathetic.

On a brighter note, I noticed on Hot Air just now that George Galloway, a kindred spirit to Avi Lewis, has been suspended from the British parliament over his illict deals with Saddam Hussein in the oil-for-food scandal.

Jim, you make a good point. I never thought of it that way. Canada has sent hundreds of thousands of it citizens to die in Europe, yet is it a great crisis when a few Canadian troops die in the ME. I knew the majority of leftard morons were very bigoted individuals. But reading it in that context, they are very racist as well. The pathetic part is up to one third of those soldiers would have died in training, or on other missions. One just has to do a little research to see that Canadian troops have been dying overseas since WW1. Once again, the leftards show what intolerant boobs they are. GO ARMY!

Irwin says: "1. A deserved, necessary and rational moratorium on Muslim immigration."

Muslims in Canada tend to be highly educated, more educated than Catholics by some measures, and have strong family units and low rates of drug and alcohol abuse and obesity.

Given the relatively low success in Canada of other groups such as Jamaicans and Haitians, and the positive data for Muslims, it is illogical to ban Muslim immigration.

"With all due respect Andrew, with those savages, the religion is the culture."

Kingstonlad,

This Avi Lewis bootlicker deserves no respect. On the contrary this Islamist, or Islamic apologist deserves nothing more than a derelict boat in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean with its occupants begging for asylum in Saudi Arabia (offered in an earlier post.)

Wait a second. ...nothing more than the derelict boat....with holes...and a torpedo headed in their direction.

I am aware of Ayaan Hirsi Ali!

Good story.

Frankly I couldn't stomach the Avi Lewis site any longer than I realized where I had logged into .

It's not rage as much as indignation and revulsion that I suffer as a Canadian, having my taxes coerced by the state to fund Canadian arbortoriums, the CBC, Avi Lewis and his lefty cohorts that flourish within the CBC.

How does one without media access disavow the leftist papp that emanates from that boar's nest?

As I said, Islamist or apologist.

The ONLY enemies this country and its citizens currently have are people of Muslim faith.

How does that logic grab you Andrew - by the hair as a machete scythes through your neck?

Very strict background checks on potential muslim immigrants is warranted and close survellance (sp?) of native-born muslims is as well especially in light of the recent arrests in New Jersey.

Andrew: "Muslims in Canada tend to be highly educated, more educated than Catholics by some measures ..."

Lots of doctors?

"Christianists," oh, oh and "rightists."

Are these 'people' devoid of original thought, or are they parrots?

Mimic the thought leaders, small minds. It is your only hope.

Can Lewis not get a job on his own? Why am I footing the bill for his career, in form or another, at the CBC?

Never thought I'd live to see the day that the left wing defends the genital mutilation of womyn...

I guess they hate America more than anything.

From the statements and doing of CBC a conclusion can be derived, without religious meaning, that the corporation is the embodiment of Antichrist.

I don't mind Avi having a show ( whats he on now, his third?) but why can't somebody from the right side of the aisle get 60 minutes of CBC prime time real estate?

Haha!
http://no-libs.com/?p=1866
Keep the comments rollin' folks. Who doesn't love irrational anti-Americanism on hideous leftist display?

From where I'm standing, Gord Tulk, it's dickless careerist fake conservatives born prior to 1964 like you who are the biggest enemy this country faces.

You opened the gate, retard, and if anyone should be booted out of this country it is you and your penile-challenged comrades.

andrew, for heaven's sake, there's more to knowledge than is found in wikipedia.

If I recall correctly, female mutiliation was originally an ancient practice in Africa, developed among nomadic tribes, where the women would be left for long periods alone with the children and elders - while the men took the herds out for migratory grazing and water. Most of these tribes eventually became Islamic - remember, Islam is a pastoral nomadic ideology. So, the practice began, first, in the economic and social context of the tribal pastoral economy in Africa, and then, moved into the Islamic ideology afterwards.

Now, just like the hijab and burka, it's become part of 'being Islamic' when none of this, originally, has anything to do with the religion.

However, the point of the thread, if I understand it correctly - sorry, I can't handle watching Avi Lewis - is the close ties the left has with Islamic fascism.

Both of them, actually, have similar ideologies - utopian, focus on violence as a means of attaining utopia, rejection of individualism, collectivist, rejection of reason, focus on homogeneity of results, anti-capitalist, anti-democratic, focus on authoritarian welfare statist gov't and of course, anti-American. The left and the islamic fascists - very similar.

The West has to stand up and reject this, as they did German/Italian fascism and communism, and all Islamic fascist practices. That will help Muslims reject it as well.

As for Avi Lewis - what is distressing is how much influence these types have in our MSM, in our academic world, in our civil service. They are paid by gov't jobs and yet, are contemptuous of democracy. Oh well - they aren't going to change.

However, I continue to disagree with those on this site who equate Islam with evil and reject all Muslims. Islam is not equivalent to Islamic fascism.

It's 'bout time to drop some FatBoy Slim beats on that video...

"why can't somebody from the right side of the aisle get 60 minutes of CBC prime time real estate?" GOOD QUESTION!!! It is so patently obvious that CBC needs to incorporate a bit of political balance into its programming. I nominate Ezra Levant as a host for "Right Thinking" or "Right On". As a taxpayer, I would find a bit of fairness to be quite refreshing. Who knows, a right focussed political show might even improve the CBC ratings. It would capture all those folks who NEVER watch the CBC because of its bias, and I'll bet lots of the left would watch such a thing also just for the entertainment factor.

I think it would require a major soul searching effort to find anyone at the CBC to interview Ezra Levant with any kind of respect, and without constantly trying to ridicule his responses.
I think, it is far beyond them.
far.

"Islam is not equivalent to Islamic fascism"

Oh, but it is ET. You should look into it beyond the facile conclusions that you've drawn. I'm surprised.

Violence is foundational to Islam, remember.

The only good Muslim is an apostate. Like Hirsi Ali.

ET and Gord Tulk:

Please read what Vituvius wrote at 7:52 PM which follows:

"For those of you who are keeping score at home, what Andrew attempted to do there was to distract this discussion from the substantive issues raised by Kate's article. Whether or not he succeedes in his attempted use of that classic troll-baiting form depends on you, dear reader".

Please don't feed the troll.

How come all of the CBC's opinion journalists are ex-VJ's from MuchMusic?

This fall, it's "Why America is Evil" with Rick the Temp.

Andrew makes some good points in the first comment.

I'm opposed to circumcision. I think it's a backward practice, an assault on a child.

Yet I respect religious freedom and am a supporter of Israel and the Jews' right to self-determination, existence, etc.

I certainly oppose female circumcision too, but for almost the same reason. Cutting perfectly healthy genitals is nuts.

They both tend to reduce sexual pleasure in the victims when they become adults, obviously one much more than the other. They both can cause complications.

However, morally and logically, I can't call one worse than the other. Physically, perhaps, but not ethically.

How is it right to cut off the foreskin but not the labia? Or clitoris?

Let's pretend there was a baby in front of a person. I could see several normal thoughts like, "I wonder if the baby is hungry?" "Ah, cute baby!" "Gee, will this baby ever stop crying?"

So far, so good.

But, "I know, I'll cut off part of the baby's genitals!" I just don't understand.

I mean, the entire thing to me is hideous.

As far as Islam itself goes, it's fair to say I disagree with its precepts including subjucating others, myself included, by force.

I will always oppose it for this and other reasons.

But it is fair to say most Muslims don't believe in genital mutilation whereas most Jews, who I more often support on other issues, do.

An interesting paradox.

maybe they can use them as hospital trays.

http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2007/07/13/laptop-children.html?ref=rss

CBCpravda , "All lunacy, All of the time"

"All lunacy, All on your dime"

Incidentally, Ayaan Hirsi Ali is one of my heroes. I was making a different point.

For anybody to give creedence, let alone reverence to the secretions of the Arab mind, Mohammad; who gave birth to and succeeded in spreading his delusions, in order for himself to gain power, plunder and and a harem of women, under the distorted guise of an amalgamation of plagiarised and misconstrued religious texts and beliefs; even going so far as to appoint himself, a gentile, to the an exclusive list of otherwise Jewish prophets, is insanity.

It is better for Islam to be ridiculed, than to be considered in any way shape or form, legitimate.

G'night

CBC does not need a 60 minute right wing show, that would only legitimize the other 167 hours per week of left wing dogma. CBC needs to be disbanded, right now.

Bev Oda act now!

I just watched the video interview between Ms. Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Mr. Avi Lewis. I was somewhat aware of her history, an interesting lady. Mr. Lewis was different, I read somwhere he supposedly won the gene pool. That's laughable, he's a twit like his father. Although I would have to give his father some credit for different successes.

The kid is a moron. I am emailing CBC right now to file a complaint, he was an embarrassing waste of taxpayer money.

I just watched the video interview between Ms. Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Mr. Avi Lewis. I was somewhat aware of her history, an interesting lady. Mr. Lewis was different, I read somwhere he supposedly won the gene pool. That's laughable, he's a twit like his father. Although I would have to give his father some credit for different successes.

The kid is a moron. I am emailing CBC right now to file a complaint, he was an embarrassing waste of taxpayer money.

Avi Lewis - part of the so-called Canadian intelligensia...Hirsi Ali made freakin' mincemeat out of him. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

“You grew up in freedom, and so you can spit on freedom, because you don’t know what it is not to have freedom.” - Game, Set, Match.

"I am emailing CBC right now to file a complaint, he was an embarrassing waste of taxpayer money."

Whoa, you're going to "file" a complaint with email saying someone was embarrassing?

Make sure you get a tracking number for the file they create to investigate this complaint.

After all, you took the time to email and that tells them it's serious.

ET wrote "However, I continue to disagree with those on this site who equate Islam with evil and reject all Muslims. Islam is not equivalent to Islamic fascism".

I for one am capable of rejecting Islam without rejecting Muslims. As St Paul wrote "All have sinned and come short of the Glory of God". I take it to mean me no less than bin Laden. At the same time I recognize that there is only one way out of the trap of sin and that was is not Islam. At its root Islam is dangerous to everyone engaged in it or people touched by people engaged in it. The continuous call to deadly physical war against the non Muslim and imposition of Sharia law has to be rejected in its totallity. Unfortunately this call is so much a part of Islam it can not be removed without removing the rest of the religion as well. It would be like removing the Atoning Sacrifice of Jesus Christ from Chrisitianity and expecting Christianity to stay the same only less offensive. Remove the Atoning Sacrifice and Christianity ceases to exist.

Back on topic: Avi can now carry his butt in front. He had it handed to him by a girl with a deeper understanding of freedom than Avi even knew existed.

Avi is not a man. He is a boy. That sure showed up in this clip.

Theodore Dalrymple explains the silence of the feminists in regards to Islam's treatment of women.

Quote" FP: You discuss the horrifying suffering that women endure under the vicious and sadistic structures of Islam’s gender apartheid. You touch on the eerie silence of Western leftist feminists on this issue, noting “Where two pieties – feminism and multi-culturalism – come into conflict, the only way of preserving both is an indecent silence.”

To be sure, the Left has long posed as a great champion of women’s rights, gay rights, minorti rights, democratic rights etc. Yet today, it has reached out in solidarity with the most fascistic women-hating, gay-hating, minority-hating and democracy hating force on the face of the earth – Islamism.

What gives? It’s really nothing new though is it? (i.e. the Left’s political pilgrimages to communist gulags etc.)

Dalrymple: I think the problem here is one of a desired self-image. Tolerance is the greatest moral virtue and broadmindedness the greatest intellectual one. Moreover, no decent person can be other than a feminist. People therefore want to be both multiculturalist and feminist. But multiculturalism and feminism obviously clash; therefore, you avoid the necessity to give up one or the other merely by disregarding the phenomena. How you feel about yourself is more important to you than the state of the world." Unquote

In other words they can't reconcile it so they choose not to think about it.

Avi is not a man. He is a boy. That sure showed up in this clip.

Theodore Dalrymple explains the silence of the feminists in regards to Islam's treatment of women.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=19293
Quote" FP: You discuss the horrifying suffering that women endure under the vicious and sadistic structures of Islam’s gender apartheid. You touch on the eerie silence of Western leftist feminists on this issue, noting “Where two pieties – feminism and multi-culturalism – come into conflict, the only way of preserving both is an indecent silence.”

To be sure, the Left has long posed as a great champion of women’s rights, gay rights, minorti rights, democratic rights etc. Yet today, it has reached out in solidarity with the most fascistic women-hating, gay-hating, minority-hating and democracy hating force on the face of the earth – Islamism.

What gives? It’s really nothing new though is it? (i.e. the Left’s political pilgrimages to communist gulags etc.)

Dalrymple: I think the problem here is one of a desired self-image. Tolerance is the greatest moral virtue and broadmindedness the greatest intellectual one. Moreover, no decent person can be other than a feminist. People therefore want to be both multiculturalist and feminist. But multiculturalism and feminism obviously clash; therefore, you avoid the necessity to give up one or the other merely by disregarding the phenomena. How you feel about yourself is more important to you than the state of the world." Unquote

In other words they can't reconcile it so they choose not to think about it. Be a man Avi, and choose to think about it.

'k...don't know how it got into circumsision and female genital mutilation...but it has NOTHING to do with your religion people!! Back 3000-2000 years ago,you raped,murdered, and pillaged anything in your way. One of the nasties from raping was VD. So somebodey got the bright idea that cutting off a guys foreskin,and slicing a gals clitoris would make it so un-inviting to have sex,that there would be no more deaths from syphillis(like Hitler,if he lived long enough) or deformed babies,etc. Nothing to do with any religion. Species survival!

Hirsi Ali is one of the genuinely "great" people of our age - a deep thinker AND an able politician. Wasn't it amazing that she was able to demolish that sniveling prick, Arvi Lewis, in her third (and I presume, fairly recently learned) language.

Re: Male circumcision. It was done among gentiles as a public health measure for a couple of generations, fell into disfavor when good personal hygiene became easy with modern household plumbing, and is now making a comeback as a limited defense against AIDS and antibiotic resistant VD. It eliminates a hidey-spot for nasties and reduces the prevalence of abrasion of the pecker necks (sorry, I don't know the proper medical term) of young and enthusiastic lads.

I never heard before that male circumcision reduced sexual pleasure. Gee, I'm glad I was "done". I don't know how I could stand it if it if sex was any more pleasurable!

During WWII, an uncle of mine was an LSBA in the Canadian Navy. The ship doctors used to do circumcisions at sea as a hygenic measure and probably for "something to do." I don't know how successful the program was, but any newly circumcised tar would sure as hell have been safe from any possibility of getting VD on his first shore leave!

Cheers,
Zog

Wikipedia???!!!!

Mohammad sanctioned FGM. When asked about it, he said go ahead and do it. So that makes it a religious act because everything Mohammad said must be obeyed.

As for veiling, yes, it has a complex history. But radical Muslims don't get their information from Wikipedia. THEY consider these customs to be part of the Muslim faith, so that is what matters. Not what we Westerners theorize to be or not to be "true" Islam.

If radical Muslims decide that standing on their heads is Allah's will tomorrow, then it will be, whatever it says in Wikipedia.

Don't you get that? What you and I know or think we know DOESN'T MATTER. What matters is what they think. We should take them at their word rather than trying to provide them with alibis.

Why is this shift in perspective so difficult for some of us to accomplish?

Trust me, if the Taliban was a Christian sect supported by the U.S and or Israel, and were oppressing the locals the lefties would be demanding we send troops in. not so much to come to the rescue of the poor "brown" locals but because their oppressors are pro-American.

Trust me, if the Taliban was a Christian sect supported by the U.S and or Israel, and were oppressing the locals the lefties would be demanding we send troops in. not so much to come to the rescue of the poor "brown" locals but because their oppressors are pro-American.

On the most part the victims of Islamic based oppression are Muslims, in Egypt, Iran, Syria, and so on.Yet does the Left support the secular voices in these regions ? no!. Does the Left support the moderates ? No !, pick the moderates and the extremists and the Left will always choose the latter , look no further then Hamas and Hezbollah and the support they get from the most of our Left in Canada.
Having travelled in the Muslim countries they are the most friendly people in the world, yet their religion has been hi-jacked
by extremists they know it, but their voices are drowned out by the bombs and the shrill tones of our liberal media.

Reeves @6:40 "Having travelled in the Muslim countries they are the most friendly people in the world, yet their religion has been hi-jacked
by extremists they know it, but their voices are drowned out by the bombs and the shrill tones of our liberal media."

Don't equate friendliness with the equanimity of beliefs. Their religion has not been hi-jacked, simply just expressed, by extremists. Their voices are not "drowned out by the bombs and the shrill tones of our liberal media" (what simple silliness), they are muffled by fear from their own true believers, and the inner awareness, that if their faith is true, the extremists must be right. A "moderate" muslim is an infidel.

Islam has no positive role to play in western culture, here, or anywhere else.

I disagree with Skip .

'acting friendly' counts for little in a shame/honour society. It has to do with saving face and elaborate notions of hospitality that have more to do with how you, the host, appears than with the comfort of one's guests.

I'm sure US visitors to Japan before Pearl Harbor got bowed at left and right...

"...North American Muslims REALLY feel under siege these days, I don’t know if you are aware of this..."

While some muslims receive death threats.

THE MANIFESTO OF 12:
Together facing the new totalitarianism
...We refuse to renounce our critical spirit out of fear of being accused of “Islamophobia,” an unfortunate concept that confuses criticism of Islamic practices with the stigmatization of Muslims themselves....

muslim-refusenik.com/petition.html

Watch the first half of the video and imagine that instead of criticizing Islam, Ms. Ali was criticizing Christianity -- then watch Avi Lewis' facial expressions.

Was anyone else totally awed by Avi's other-worldly dogmatism? What I saw was a one sided conversation between a reasoning person with real world experience and a secluded, indoctrinated dogmatic inebriate.

"Poor, poor Avi... he comes across like a grade 9 student working for the school newspaper interviewing a university prof. Totally out of his depth."

Yup. In a nutshell.

"...Don't you get that? What you and I know or think we know DOESN'T MATTER. What matters is what they think. We should take them at their word rather than trying to provide them with alibis.

Why is this shift in perspective so difficult for some of us to accomplish?"

Well said, Kathy!

When a global network of Islamofascist extremists with a globally established bloody record of murder and oppression tell us non-Muslims that they intend to conquer or kill us all, I'll accept that those are in fact their intentions. That's not "Islamophobic", that's dispassionately viewing reality.

"...North American Muslims REALLY feel under siege these days, I don’t know if you are aware of this..."

Aw, gooo gooo ga ga!

Know what makes me feel "under seige"? Watching two giant buildings crash down in NY, crushing thousands of people to bits -- oddly enough!! An acutal THING, not a fake "hate crime" figment of my fevered imagination.

Maybe if Muslims did what some Japanese Americans did after Pearl Harbor, ie. signed up for what became the most highly decorated American unit in WW2 to prove their loyalty; maybe if we'd seen thousands of them hitting the streets to unequivacally condemn all violence in the name of Allah -- maybe then some of us wouldn't look at them funny on the subway.

Cuz "being looked at funny" is the biggest thing they have to worry about. No mosque or business arsons, no attacks by skinhead gangs.

They should be grateful that they live in such a tolerant country.

But they aren't.

"Islam has no positive role to play in western culture, here, or anywhere else." - skip

"I disagree with Skip." - stephen Reeves

Skip is right. Stephen, like most, has no idea and only assumes. People like Stephen, by way of an equal portion of good intentions and ignorance, aid and abet the Islamist agenda.

What positive role have Muslims ever played? In the most recent example, we've seen how Muslims behave in one of the most trusted and respected roles, as Medical Doctors.

More critically, in this call to 'reform' Islam, is it possible?

How do you reform a 'religion' where violence is foundational. Where violence is institutionalized in their manual, the Quran, and in their prophets life example?

Here's a question:

What if we were to take a normal, healthy human being who has not been exposed to Islam and inculcated, in fact, brain washed him into the ideology using the commands and rewards in the Quran, and told him to study and exactly emulate Mohammad's life, in every way.

Would that person not turn into a monster?

Would that Muslim not be charged and convicted as one of the worst war criminals in history?

How do you reform a 'religion' like that, without gutting the Quran and trashing the evil bastard Mohammad to the dust bin of history?

The only good Muslim is an apostate.

If Canada declared Sharia Law and all women would have to have genital mutilation, I wonder how many men would be left standing.

Remarkable isn't it. Behold the modern ( L ) liberal left.
I'm not sure what is more troubling - that the cbc promotes moral relativism, with my tax dollars, in the style of Avi Lewis or
the probability the host will come away from this "interview" none the wiser.

If policitical Islam is to be reformed, a key ingredient in the process will be achieved by women like Ayaan - paladin of our times.
Mr. Lewis has absolutely no concept of this notion. What we have here is a perfect working example of a courageous, decent, hard working, intelligent personage dedicated to exposing the very obstacles of islamic rehabilitation.
"On the map" uses exaggerated, overassertation and repetition. Ayaan Hirsi Ali offers rational engagement. Choose wisely.

What a poised and articulate woman. She is saying what Islam needs to hear. It needs to reform and modernize if it truly wants peace and social development.
It is amusing that the host criticises her for using pro US cliches while he uses every anti US cliche.

http://ianism.com/?p=783

Know what makes me feel "under seige"? Watching two giant buildings crash down in NY, crushing thousands of people to bits -- oddly enough!! An acutal THING, not a fake "hate crime" figment of my fevered imagination.

And wondering if the Muslim next to you on the bus has said his final prayers.

'Saw the video link on Kathy Shaidle's blog (thanx, Kathy!) and have already written the CBC (Canadian Bullshitters' Corporation--or Corpse maybe?) to object to Avi Lewis' existen...er...infantile interview with Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who comported herself with wit and grace, two completely alien character traits to Michelle Landsberg and Stephen Lewis' progeny.

If I were headlining the interview between Lewis and Ali I'd call it:

Beauty/Brains and the Beast.

The easy arrogance displayed by Avi Lewis in his interview of Ayaan Hirsi Ali is utterly breath-taking. Whether he agrees with her or not, she displays an analytical intellect that should leave him groveling in respect.

Instead, unable to respond with questions or fact of equivalent insight, he falls back on insults and put-downs of both her, her background and of course the United States.

She is very much a self-made woman of high accomplishment, he has ridden to position on the coat-tails of his father and grand-father.

The result - I felt embarassed for him, yet he would be too cock-sure in his self-importance to understand why.

I have travelled extensively in the former Ottoman Empire, and here's a few first hand observations:

Young men (about 10-14 years old) groping foreign women on crowded public transport. Happened every time.

Spent a few days on the beach - once, a pack of children surrounded us (group of obviously foreign students studying archaeology) and stole sunglasses, lotions etc.. until well-meaning young men scolded them to return our belongings, saying "please don't think poorly of our country"

Another, I DARED sit on a beach with a local lady, who was cosmopolitan and therefore uninhibited - she was dressed in a bikini. I was the focus of several hundred young men's seething jealousy, and was glad i did not speak Arabic to hear what they were saying. I was actually enjoying myself with heightened adrenalin and mild terror-induced euphoria.

I also met a community of young women who were actively trying to re-educate their community on the outside world's version of equality among the sexes. Puppet shows were their method, demonstrating the evils of spousal and child abuse, as well as the idea of allowing women to dress in a modern way, and be part of a functional society. I am hopeful in the decade since I was there, which has seen both the resumption of Transjordan hostilities in October 2000, and the subsequent rise of terror and wars created by Islamic armies, that their work has continued.

My point is young women like Ayaan Hirsi Ali are the future for this world, and intolerant spoiled brats like Avi Lewis with his double-speak and contempt for his own privilege are the past.

The times are truly a-changin'..........!

By the way, Avi, we ALL hate air travel these days. And not because of Timothy McVeigh, if you catch my drift.............

At the CBC On the Map site, the first sentence is:

Born to an elite, political family in Somalia, Ayaan Hirsi Ali was brought up Muslim

Wonder if SneerBoy found that a bit ironical.

Interestingly, I saw this clip via Hot Air and it was only after a while that I realized who the idiot was that was doing this so called "interview". The family resemblance is there but Ayaan Hirsi Ali must have felt like she was talking to the runnerup valedictorian from kindergarden.
I didn't even know that this was from a CBC show although it didn't surprise me when I read it here.

Me No Dhimmi: CBC used "elite," "right wing," and "arch-conservative" in their intro to Ayaan Hirsi Ali. Same old, same old, ad hominem CRAP.

'Problem with Avi is, he's such a dumb post he wouldn't know irony if it hit him across the side of his BIG wooden head.

He talked a lot with his hands: 'Must have thought that would compensate for the absolute garbage coming out of his mouth... 'Didn't work, Avi. 'Just made you look like a hand puppet, with the CBC brass pulling your strings.

From the CBC comments thread on the Ayaan Hirsi Ali interview:

"How's it going Avi, I saw your show today for the first time, and though it did seem a little bias at times, it is refreshing to see difficult questions being asked intelligently and diplomaticaly. I am also considering taking Jornalism - any advice you can give me is greatly appreciated. All the best. Sidd."

You sound perfectly qualified for jornalism, Sidd.

Oy vey.

SIDD: Simpering Ignorant Dumb-Dumb

been around, been a while!

Yeah, I recall the "arch conservative" "right wing" in addition to "elite". I guess I'm so used to the first two from CBC I paid no special notice. But this time, anyway, I was quite struck by his little "elite" smear considering he's from a ultra-elite Rosedale communist political family. I wonder if he thinks of himself as a proletarian?

Also, really struck by the phrasing "they kill abortion doctors". The use of "they" as if this were a widespread practice condoned by Christian religions leaders. How many do you suppose? Was it 5, 6? And her beautiful response: yes, but they were arrested, tried and convicted and jailed.

A splendid specimen of humanity, Hirsi Ali, eh? She absolutely nailed SneerBoy in that polite, sotto voce, self-assured way. But, I bet you anything, after the "inverview" Avi was all chuffed with putting her in her place, living in that lefty echo chamber as he does.

Oh, one last thing. I wonder would Avi call her tribal Islamic upbringing "arch conservative". Nah, eh? That's 3rd world primitive and therefore noble.

I'm 3/4 way thru Infidel. Have you read it?

I haven't read Infidel yet. But I will!

Sneer boy! LOL!!

I am a stone cold atheist living in Indiana. One of my best friends is a speaking-in-tongues fundamentalist Christian. Whoever this fool Lewis is, he's not living on the same planet we are.

"a secluded, indoctrinated dogmatic inebriate.

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at July 16, 2007 10:00 AM "

And a condescending little jerk as well. How is it that none of these gushing letter writers to the CBC site picked up on that? Our fellow citizens?

I can't imagine Avi has read her book Infidel. If he had I don't know how he could have been asking her the questions he did. They were all answered in her book! What a moron, sheesh.

Re Kate's update on our boy, Avi, on Dennis Prager's Web site: Prager's really socking it to SneerBoy (h/t Me No Dhimmi). He's planning on asking Avi Lewis to appear on his show, 'cause Avi's got some 'splaining to do.

That'll be painful (for Avi), like a cat playing with a mouse. 'Wonder if Avi will show. No doubt, he and Naomi Klein are busily planning a visit to outer spa...I mean the outer Hebrides, you know: They really need a break from all of the media demands on their time. Poor babies.

oldirishpig: You don't know our Avi: 'privileged and cossetted offspring of two of Canada's most rabidly feminist and socialist activists (Stephen Lewis, son of David Lewis, both NDP leaders and cheerleaders of the New Democratic Party, whose socialist/communist ideas are neither new nor democratic, and Michelle Landsberg, feminist columnist par excellence (well, par something) in the Toronto Star and other left-leaning Canadian rags.

'Only reason the intellectual pipsqueak-mouse-brain has a job at the taxpayer-funded Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (aka Canadian Bullshitters' Cabal) is that all of the movers and shakers (sic) there are friends of mom and dad: in a word: NEPOTISM. It's not hard to spot, is it? Another planet, indeed.

I posted this on another site but it bears repeating:

"I think there are some redeeming aspects to this video.
Ms. Ali has her voice heard on the CBC.
Lewis’ statements and Ms. Ali’s eloquent rebuttals made it on air on the CBC.
Lewis’ ignorance was there for all to see and NOT edited.

Props to the CBC for the video…and I can’t believe I just typed that but I stand by the statement."

That is all.

Kate: Do you need to push this up to the top? The Prager piece is terrific -- a truly breathtaking juxtaposition of the Canadian and US divide. I found myself anticipating every single "stop the tape" instance and chuckling.

And the black caller with the Somalian fiance who (the fiance) thinks Hirsi Ali is a liar ... but "he loves her very very much with all his heart". Not for long, he doesn't.

BATB: No way on Allah's green earth will SneerBoy show up on the Prager show. He would be torn to threads.

What is it tho with these talk-show cats: notice how they all sound like Rush. I guess it's a kind of dialect eh?

Well, I'm smiling for the rest of the day.

Kathy Shaidle: "Avi Lewis is too stupid to be Jewish".

When we consistently get these messages from the mouthpieces of the left:
- that our traditions and the values that our forefathers built this nation upon are meaningless to them
- that defending those traditions and values is wrong
- that speaking out against those who wish our traditions and values to disappear from the world is wrong

IMO - that's what constitutes and enemy of our society!

Hey Rick, let's hope they still teach grammar and punctuation at J-school, for Sidd's sake, eh? (Not to mention burger flipping...)

How about writing him a reference letter? :-)

Can we find out if Avi has agreed to be on Prager? And if he has refused, can we bug him about it?

Maybe we could run some sort of Pool/Countdown:

Avi Lewis Wimp Watch or somesuch.

"Update - Avi Lewis is becoming famouser by the minute.... developing...."

With due respect I think the operative word would be "infamouser..."

Oh, let's do a Wimp Watch. It would be SUCH FUN!

I found Avi to be a complete embarrassment. Unfortunately, this is what the CBC (aka “Pravda”) considers “journalism”. I really doubt that Avi, or the CBC, see him as anything but “hard hitting”, “courageous”, “brave”, and simply “speaking truth to power”. Whereas, uninformed, ignorant, stupid, insulting, judge mental, exclusive, and biased almost beyond belief, are more accurate, if not understated. Our TAX DOLLARS at work!

Yes, I really like Kathy's "Avi Lewis: too stupid to be Jewish" line!

Kind of makes you proud to be a Canadian, eh? Especially as this clip is making its way around the Internet.

The web page we were directed to in order to play this clip is a perfect little, microcosmic personification of the CBC.

The heading for the page is pseudo-edgy and "current" looking. The comments were filtered and one sided. The look and feel was B-

Then there was the write up (which is merely the text version of Avi's voice over leading up to the interview itself). Whenever a CBC journalist gets skewered on the air, they take great pains to discredit the guest after the fact. This was no exception.

The set itself had that "current" cheesy look to it, as did Avi, the hip and in-your-face host of "On the Map."

I like how, in the write up, they describe her as "born to an elite, political family", glossing over the fact that her family fled from country to country in fear for their lives for most of her early life, or the dreadful, impoverished conditions she and her family endured during these difficult times.

I like how it reads "..a classic immigrant story. Until she went into politics and ended up with the rightwing Liberal Party, which was exploiting a wave of anti-immigrant sentiment at the time". Yeah...that sure sums it up!

I like how it made her short film Submission sound like another insulting Danish cartoon by highlighting "sexualized images of a Muslim woman with verses of the Koran written on her body". It also made it sound like (when you get right down to it) that she was responsible for Van Gogh's death.

I could go on all day on how embarrassing the actual interview was.

Compare Avi's tone and approach with that of Glenn Beck's interview with Hirsi Ali.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3tgY_eI_P0

"Update - Avi Lewis is becoming famouser by the minute.... developing...."

The CBC and Avi Lewis are getting attention they never dreamed of, in their existence, today in the USA.
Thank you Dennis Prager for the fisking of our MSM and the sycophants who dominate the news and documentaries ( and have for decades) at the CBC.
My only hope is that our American neighbours do not equate all Canadians with the likes of AVI Lewis.
The internet ( and Kate McMillan's SDA is the largest part of it ) is beginning to change the landscape and allowing conservative voices to be listened to above Canadian leftist MSM.

No MSM commentator has the balls to take on the likes of Avi Lewis in Canada!

The Dennis Prager's , Bill O'Reilly's, are the best friends conservatism has in Canada!!

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That should have read as - No "CANADIAN MSM" commentator has the balls to take on the likes of Avi Lewis!

Two stolen elections? If the democrats had a hope in hell of proving those elections were stolen, they would have, but they didn't 'cause they couldn't. Poor losers is all the democrats in America are....wah, wah!

What is Islamophobia and Homophobia anyhow? The fear of the followers of Islam and of homosexuals? I could give a couple reasons people fear both, but that would mean I would have to be politically incorrect and correct, all in the same breath.

I used to be neighbour to Avi's in-laws at their expensive, waterfront resort property on the Sunshine Coast, BC.

I remember the night they had a reception for him and his new bride(zilla), Naomi Klein. What a mighty amalgamaton of Commie families!!

They had a rock band playing until late, mostly doing lefty stuff like Spirit of the West, the Pogues, etc. Then people got up and sand or played whatever they wanted. Mostly it was union songs, commie chants,solidarity forever; you know, songs about the working class!!!

Bah...these people wouldn't know working class if it hit them with a baseball bat! They are the ultimate, uber-privileged, spoiled brats....who hate the society that nourished and succoured them and their pink predecessors. Making alliance once again with fascists, just like their grandparents did.

F*ck 'em. Throw 'em to the howling Turks at the gates!

I assume Avi Lewis is the spawn of two socialist Jews. If not, like Avi Lewis, none of what follows makes sense. Don't take this wrong. I am not an anti-Semite; two of my best biological parents are Jewish.

America Jews, blacks, gays, and atheists have more wealth and more freedom in the US than they do in any other country on earth. If Avi is indeed Jewish if he lived in any muslim dominated country he would be a second or third class citizen and potentially his live would be in daily peril depending how many categories he was identified with in the first sentence of this paragraph.

Anti-Americanism and "die-versity" are left wing givens that cannot be challenged. These idiotcracies definitely trump feminism. But hey, in the real socialist world females have always received lip service and been sent for the coffee. Perhaps socialist Avi resents that Hirsi Ali, a mere uppity female, is respected in the US and that there has never been a real female leader in Russia, China or Cuba. I think Avi deserves a muslim name- how about Watan Azole for starters?

Lewis' cliche-left blatant falsities are delivered with an air of such smugness and superiority that even the most reasonable argument would be rendered unlistenable. Just listen to his snorts and his exasperated little vocalizations at some of Ali's statements -- that's the sound he makes whenever he's confronted with someone more informed than he is, like John Bolton.

In this recent interview, Lewis actually had the nerve to correct Ali, right off the bat, over her take on Islam: "Whoa, whoa..." he says.

That's his reaction to anyone who's not on the Shining Path. At the very bottom of it all it's the force of mob rule that gives Lewis his self-considered authority and his smug belief in the unassailabililty of each snort. His ideology, one can see, has granted him a absolute dispensation from having to respond or listen to actual facts or to arguments. When Ali completely eviscerated his argued implication that the American system is no different than Sharia law, by pointing out that in America religious extremists, such as abortion clinic bombers, are hunted down and jailed, he didn't acknowledge in any way that what had been delivered as a self-evident coupe de grace had struck an immovable object; instead, it was as if the exchange, and her response, never happened. He simply moved on to his next lefty touchstone as if the interview was just beginning.

At one point, perhaps confusing the electoral tactics of the chafed-mouth state-tit Lib-left parties with the truth, Lewis called the U.S. "a country where evangelical...conservative social values drawn from and justified by the bible are imposed on people every single day."

What can you say? Walk down the street in New York. In Boston. In Seattle. In Minneapolis. Go to a beach in Florida. Go to a concert. Go to a Honky Tonk. Go to Atlantic City. Listen to American radio, listen to American music. Watch American films. Watch American TV. Go to a nightclub, to an art gallery, to a rave, to a restaurant, to a pub. Rent a car. Drive around the country. And then explain how the Bible was "imposed" on you "every single day." And compare the U.S. to countries with Sharia law.

Just prurient, inflammatory, rabble-rousing, utterly fraudulent, dangerous.

"You grew up in freedom so you can spit on freedom" -- Ayaan Hirsi Ali

There is nothing progressive about his views -- that's just a front. His views are dangerous, and regressive; CBC just presents them as "hip."

If you barely scratch the surface of Lewis' ilk you find apologists for the most murderous ideologies that ever existed, and active saboteurs against the free world.

I think Lewis' interview with Ali is an embarrassment to Canada. And more to the point, Canadians have paid thousands of millions of dollars to prop up the CBC's point of view. Is this reasonable?

I certainly don't enjoy paying taxes so that a thinly-disguised GTA communist can take a noisy shit on the head of our American friends.

It's NOT an issue of balance. The counterbalance to Avi Lewis would be David Duke. So should we all pay, out of our pocket, to give Avi Lewis a platform?

Lot of space wasted talking about Avi, son of the father Stephen,who is Left of left with tears on tap, weeping for AIDS victims.

Who the hell looks at that crap anyway?
CBC needs to be fumigated, it's long overdue.

Re: first comment.
Poster Andrew quotes from Wikipidea....it must be true!

Here's a minor, but encouraging, bit of trivia. Went online to check out my library system for reserving a copy of Ali's book. They have about 20 copies, so i figure, no waiting. My queue position is 123; so i guess i'd better buy it or wait a long while.
Point is, her words are getting out and there is huge interest, despite those who try to ignore it.

What the heck is the use of a Conservative government if they can't do anything about the CBC?

I'm willing to bet $26.00 and my right nut that that little puke won't be on Dennis Prager's show any time soon. Although it would be fun to hear him getting torn a new one though.

No, for tearing a new one, you don't look to Prager, who is quite a Mr. Rogers for the most part. If we could trick Lewis into going on Hugh Hewitt. Oh man, when he's on his game he can slice you and dice you.

(It was suggested I bump this item closer to page top so that readers don't miss the Dennis Prager link below)

The blogosphere has never hit the CBC harder.
Bump it to the top and keep it there all week(and add a picture of Ayaan smiling at that leftist snotbag's stupidity)...

Avi Lewis does deserve some cred for airing an interview in which he is completely owned. Unfortuantely he came up short with not admitting that his whole basis of thinking was shown to be flawed by someone for whom English is at best a 2nd language.

This is a powerful statement against moral relativism and for moral objectiveness. Truth is Truth.

Reminds me, though not as powerful, as the time the Syrian woman totally owned a Muslim cleric and commentator on Al Jajriza a while ago. The Syrian woman lives and teaches at a university in Calaifornia now and escaped Syria.

The best line is, "You can spit of freedom, because you are free and have never not been free."

they had a reception for him and his new bride(zilla), Naomi Klein

Ya but at least he married within the faith. Not like some of those faux socialists that marry neo-cons or worse Christians.

More comments from Kathy Shaidle please.

Kathy's got her game face on with this one.

Iain and mistahtibbs above make good points. I would like to give Lewis credit for letting her speak, which for the most part he did, and of course for airing the interview. Now, I do understand that he's so far out there that he doesn't know what an idiot he made of himself during that interview. That's actually one of the major problems with leftists -- they don't know how much they don't know. They also project their own mindset onto others, as many posters above have noted with respect to Lewis's sneer that Hirsi Ali must have studied a list of cliches somewhere. Of course that's simply a projection of his own talking-points approach.

Will Avi appear on Prager? Probably not, but he will go to all his fellow Bloor West Village foreign-film-watching, chai-tea-drinking chums and tell them war stories about being attacked all week by the "arch-conservatives". Because, as we know, being a liberal means REVELLING IN VICTIMHOOD!

(Kathy: Prager may be a poodle to Hewitt's pit-bull, but Prager always gets his leftist guests to expose their sicknesses on their own, without them even knowing it. I prefer his style to the prosecutorial Hewitt - although Hewitt vs. Andrew Sullivan was perhaps the best hour of radio I've ever heard!)

I just never get it with the Jews who think that championing the causes of people who hate them irrevocably will somehow save their butts in the long run.

People like Avi Lewis and his family probably know a few Muslims who are highly educated and cultured, with whom they can have pleasant and civilized discussions about "life". They think that they can all just get along.

But these "old school" Canadian muslims who have been here for decades and are successful professionally and socially (else the Lewis' and their ilk would never run into them except in a cab) are utterly unrepresentative of the typical Muslim immigrant coming to Canada now, working as a cab driver or in a factory, much more religious, far less educated, and coming from places where hatred of Jews is so deeply ingrained as to be inseparable from their own identity.

This story has happened time and again - in Russia, in post-WWII Europe, in the US Civil rights movement, Jewish intellectuals often led the anti-establishment "champion of the downtrodden" movements, only to have the Stalinists, communists, and black power activists turn around and attack them viciously once they achieved power. Don't they learn????

If Lewis ever gets on Pragers show I hope someone links to it.

Iain (9:44 P.M., July 17)

I believe you're referring to Wafa Sultan (Syrian woman, MEMRI TV). Well worth watching.

I would never have caught "the Beav's" interview of Ayaan Hirsi Ali unless I picked it up at a place like SDA; I never... NEVER... watch the Canadian Broadcorping Castration. Not even NHL playoff hockey.

Simple inertia has carried the CBC forward for far too long. It's not a Canadian institution, not any longer. It's federal funding should be cut completely off; I contend it wouldn't be very difficult to do.

Why worry about the politics of it? Government largesse has dried up in many other places over the last 20 years or so. In a few weeks, the hard core of CBC supporters... and there are precious few of them... would be the only ones to remember the CBC. The ROC would have forgotten all about it.

Pay attention to the 7:31 mark folks.
That's all I have left to say...
http://no-libs.com/?p=1877

Agreed about Sullivan (and that's followed by James Lilek's wonderful imitation of Sullivan's bizarre performance -- everyone should listen to them back to back).

Also for fun, there's Hewitt's interview with LA Time's Joel Klein, who wrote a 'why I don't support the troops' column. Now, I actually understood what Klein was getting at, but the way Hewitt went from casually asking the guy where he went to school to slowly evicerating him, it was like Bolero with a stiletto!

Kathy S...

I heard Lileks' imitation of Andrew Sullivan a couple months back; how Lileks-come-Sullivan lept from HH's most inane statements to the most wildly fantastic machinations was, simply, a hoot!

I haven't been able to catch the weekly clips of Hugh Hewitt's interviews lately but, when I can, I like to listen to his regular chats with Mark Steyn; Steyn always boils thing down to their most basic level, and usually good for a few laughs.

Be a giggle if Limbaugh picked this up, eh? Avi could have his Leftardation paraded in front of a bigger audience than CBC will ever have.

Here's more enlightened reading from our favourite anti-American, Bush bashing, capitalist-hating, christian bashing, tax-payer funded commie ...

http://www.policyalternatives.ca/documents/National_Office_Pubs/2005/a_canadian_response.pdf

"I won’t go deeper into that argument, because
it has been made far more elegantly in the writings of one Naomi Klein." - actually he won't go any deeper, because he is a narrow-minded, shallow thinker...pitching for his looney wife to boot... almost capitalistic there comrade...

Everything Avi Lewis knows about America, he learned from Michael Moore.

What is most disturbing about his mindset, is that he takes for granted his freedoms. The biggest lesson 9/11 has taught my generation, is that after the Cold War detente of mutually-assured destruction, there is no balance now. There is merely those who appreciate freedoms, and how difficult it is to protect them, and those who abuse it. As personified by the highly educated, student visa-bearing flight school attendees who hijacked those planes and murdered thousand of innocent civilians.

"Stolen elections?" Maybe, only if you look at it that the Democrats ran Al Bore in 2000, and Not-too-swift John Kerry in 2004. The GOP simply worked harder, and better understood the Electoral College system. They stole them the old-fashioned way, they earned them.

You never hear Democrats talking about how JFK really did steal the 1960 election.

Our PM, as glad as I am to have him in office and the meager progress achieved thus far, would really build up our nation's pride by seriously gutting CBC television. I believe strongly that CBC radio is a wonderful service in our dominion of open space, and if you don't like it, change the channel.

CBC TV is a different animal entirely. It needs to be neutered.

Be a giggle if Limbaugh picked this up, eh? Avi could have his Leftardation paraded in front of a bigger audience than CBC will ever have.

...and wouldn't it be a feather in his cap to be attacked by Big Bad Rush? He'd probably wear that like a bagde of honour in the TO tearooms his ilk frequent.

Let's turn the heat up on Avi. Send the clip to your friends, send it to any blog that might pick it up.
I'm sure more Americans would like to see this.
This guy wants to spout off? Let's see him defend his views. He's making out like a bandit on CBC, let's see him earn it. We're paying his salary, let's get our money's worth.
Send it to your MP or Bev Oda and ask why we are paying for this.
He lives in his little socialist echo chamber and I'm sure he thinks he won the debate.
We need to educate him on that, it's the least we can do for the poor deluded soul.

"No, for tearing a new one, you don't look to Prager, who is quite a Mr. Rogers for the most part."

Not quite, Ms. Shaidle. You look to Dick Cheney ala Wolf Blitzer and the 12 gauge stare of doom that made Wolf fill his Depends undergarments.

Avi would be eating carrots through a straw after that one.

I was watching the Lewis boy a couple weeks ago, before the Ali interview. (hey, there isnt much on basic cable, besides American Inventor.)

He first interviewed someone from a 'big bad mining company', and then interviewed some activist. It was incredible the difference in his treatment of the two. The activist was softballed, and there were jokes and smiles. With the company rep, it was completely hostile.

As I was turning it off, I wondered if Lewis was even aware of how much he resembled a high school cheerleader?

Since 9/11, racism trumps sexism in the world of the lefty. The hatred of America runs so deep with these people that they will refrain from condemning anything Islam at all costs. They refuse to criticize the enemies of their enemy. Where are all the feminists speaking out about the atrocious oppression of their fellow sisters? And why isnt this Lewis guys mother, Michelle Landsberg, as staunch a feminist as there is, speaking out about the horrific mutilation this woman has endured?

Ironically enough, I first heard of female genital mutilation over 20 years ago on the Jane Hawtin show. She was outraged, like anyone would be, and if memory serves, she was a Toronto feminista.
You've come a long way, indeed.

Would someone please explain to me the love affair between the left and Muslim fundamentalism. They demonize Bush (homophobia is rampant in the U.S.) for not sanctioning gay marriage and give muslims a pass for burying homosexuals up to their necks and throwing rocks at their heads! What's better, getting married or getting to live? Doesn't little Avi realize that he wouldn't last five minutes in a country like Iran. He's Jewish for God's sake. Lewis and his ilk will be our hamartia as this clash of civilizations unfolds.

Never hear of this Avi Lewis guy. Hope to never again -- but Jesus Loves him too...Orlin

Little Green Footballs has linked the video today. The Avi Lewis train wreck keeps moving across the internet.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=26321_Video-_Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali_vs._Northern_Moonbat&only