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Ummmm....Pallies on Pallies...now Blacks on Blacks...Natural selection and Mother Nature at work.

That is one very good reason for stiffer jail time for gun offenses! They guys don't give a rats a$$ about anyone but their hood. Maybe there should be an outcry to the record producers that promote this crap to the youth. How many of those young men ( and I use that terms loosely) will live to see their 25th birthday?? or end up in jail????

Oh. And the problem is the BB courts aren't NBA regulation size and there are no agents hanging around with multi-million $ brown envelopes.

Judging only by my limited exposure to local drive time AM radio, it now seems ok to use the word "black" when discussing this and similar incidents. Michael Coren just "went for it" right after the shooting and that seems to have taken some of the curse off it.

Half the black (and white) callers say: "We need fathers, we need fewer baby mamas" etc while half the callers blame The Man, The System and the latest, Public Housing.

Never mind that Toronto just plowed under Regent Park (where I saw more satellite dishes per household than any other apt complex in the city... Today's "poor" enjoy riches the Sun King never dreamed of...). No, Public Housing is the source of all evil. Liberals who advocated Public Housing for decades are now saying this without any detectable trace of irony or guilt.

Now, I don't like Public Housing either. Pay your own damn rent, I say. But here's the next taboo question:

Why don't Japanese people live in Public Housing? Or Jews?

Discuss.

Stated on the CBC news this morning re the sister...dot now what it means othe than she has been charged with possession on an illegal handgun and ammunition.

After that nothing has been said.....there were 700 charges laid from those raids....and the undermining has begun.....the coke seized wasnt from this raid but one in april, how much is the overtime, how much did it cost....all leading to the question why is this being done or why isnt there money for other things...like b bal courts

Hwever the report also talked about how happy many of the residents are. It is imperative to identify and affect your supporters and if that is the local older mothers and grandmothers then that is exactly what needs to be done, but you have to listen to them when they call for other things as well.

This story is going to get ugly very quickly

I'm so happy I'm white!

I'm sure they're just taking a break from their studies, either to get into university, or perhaps towards an accounting degree.

Yo Yo Yo, straight up, know what Izzayin!

Mandatory gun safety courses for all Jamaican immigrants.

So is this East LA or Detroit? Taranna, the hell you say. Glad all those weapons are registered. It makes me feel safer already. These poor misguided youths could use some more schooling though, like say, F@^&!$#ng English as a Second N^&*()#$@%er Fu#$^*$#?+ng Language.

I really feel so bad that this is obliviously my fault.

The Toronto Star did a hit piece yesterday, slamming the police for conducting the raids on houses with children in them. Because we certainly wouldn't want to hold the parents responsible, for harboring gang members and endangering their own children...

Would you let a single one of these thugs sleep in the room next to your little girls?

Those guys would be a lot scarier if they knew how to hold a pistol properly.

From today's Toronto Sun:

he sister of Jordan Manners -- the 15-year-old student gunned down last month in a Toronto high school -- was among the people charged in a massive police crackdown on street gangs in the Driftwood Ave. neighbourhood.

Necole Small, 25, is charged with possession of a prohibited firearm with ammunition, a police source confirmed last night.

Small works at Homes First, a charitable housing service.

Manners, who lived in the Jane-Finch neighbourhood, was killed May 24 on the second floor of C.W. Jefferys high school where he was a Grade 9 student.

Two 17-year-old boys are charged in Manners' slaying.

know what i mean nigger, yo yo yo know what i mean. what up what up

what a f'n laugh. a bunch of future welfare recipients brought to you by the ONTARIO advantage. these punks are the rot that is ruining this country.

it's the police that are the problem, get a job nigger.

"thought we were going to the NBA" "nigger booger association.

WHAT A LAUGH

I'll feel so much safer when they ban handguns.

Kathy....The Japenese/Jews don't live in public(ghetto) housing because they have a work ethic. The blacks,browns,natives,etc. have learned,and very well,that if you are in Canada,then evil whitey owes you everything,as pushed by the lefties.Nevermind the fact that my or your grandfather died fighting the very people who would have lined THEIR grandfathers up against a wall and shot them. Nope. It's all evil whitey's fault,and you had better start your workday earlier so you can pay more (taxes) to help the poor slobs in ghetto-town, who,frankly,say why work when we can get whitey to do it for us.
Oh. And don't forget to blame texascanuck for moving,and taking their money with him...lol

Never mind that Toronto just plowed under Regent Park (where I saw more satellite dishes per household than any other apt complex in the city...

Walk through St James Town - daylight hours, naturally - around Bleecker and Wellesley and you'll be equally astounded at the number of satellite dishes.

When the most recent shooting took place in Toronto mayor Miller was the first out the gate demanding that there be a clamp down on gun collectors... every gun collector I've met has been middle-aged, middle-class and WHITE sooo the way to stop young hormone soaked BLACK males from butchering each other is to drop like a ton of bricks on some middle-aged dentist. From Rwanda to Jane+Finch it's always White folks fault. ( unless you're Arab then it's the Jews )

The problem isn't with blacks. It's with niggers. This is about the importation of "nigger culture" from south of the border.

Considering the history of blacks in Canada vs. America there is no reason for Canadian blacks to be niggers, other than some of them choose it.

Chris Rock does a good bit on the difference between blacks and niggers.

That item about Jordan Manners' sister being arrested for a weapons violation is either going to confound gun-control advocates or make them go fanatical...

Let's hope their employers don't find out about this. They could all lose their jobs! Then where would they be? How would they support themselves and their families?

The need for a job is great moral persuader and molder of character. When socialist states create an environment where jobs are optional, it facilitiates stunted character development and anti-social behaviour.

PS I've been saying this for years and have the hate mail to prove it: this is a jamaican problem not a black one. Ask any trinidadian what they think of jamaican "culture" or black american "culture" -- actually you never have to ask, they often just bring it up themselves! "They give us all a bad name" is what they inevitably say.

GANG CONTROL NOT GUN CONTROL SQUAWK SQUAWK

"Jordan Manners' sister being arrested for a weapons violation... " Defence Lawyering 101: "your honor, my defendant was only carrying a weapon because the police were not there to protect and serve. She felt it was her duty to pick up where the police fell short."

BTW, Texas Canuck only moved down here to get away from the gang violence in Canadian cities. And also to keep my money from cretien and his invisible homeless friend.

The modesty of these members of the Citizens Neighbourhood Protective Association, is quite touching, especially the young patriot who wrapped his face in a Canadian flag.

These are the best and brightest of the Jane/Finch area, apparently, and the future of the great City of Toronto, although I couldn't tell where on earth it was for the first few minutes.

The one young fellow who used the word, "nigger", appeared to be of ME ancestry, not African-Canadian, therefore, I believe we've witnessed a hate crime here, use of a racist epithet by a person of a different color.

Shouldn't this be reported to the proper authorities?

These fine young men seem to know how to take care of the problem, I say we arm them all and then cause the value of gold chains to skyrocket.

It strikes me as how similar the french and black cultures really are in a some ways. Both downtrodden and oppressed/picked on, in their view, and playing the sympathy card to the hilt. Both victims with white English the evil oppressor. Both wanting something they don't seem to be capable of obtaining on their own and then praying on the weak link, that left wing caring bunch that acquiesces to their every demand. I spent a lot of time in the Caymans and they refer to this group of blacks as street niggers, jamacians, and they greatly dislike them, to the point of a friend of mine married a jamacian and she was virtually ostracized. Who knows how much of the above video was put on for the camera but that culture shows a surprising similarity to another one, BACTERIA.

Been saying it for years: fix the dadlessness issue in the black neighbourhoods of Toronto and you'll decimate the number of gangs and their members.

Manners mother is going to be the local version of Mama Khadr."aint nobodys fault but the po leece"

Accused held over weekend
On Thursday, dozens of accused streamed into a courtroom, along with their defence lawyers and family members.

All 95 accused, including three brothers alleged to be high-profile members of the Driftwood Crips gang — Michael, Nadel and Peter Johnson, ages 30, 28 and 24 (no relation to Jermaine Johnson) — will be held in custody until at least Monday after the Crown delayed bail hearings Thursday.

Crown lawyers delayed the bail hearings indicating they were not ready to deal with the large number of accused.

Family members and defence lawyers reacted angrily to the news, asking why resources hadn't been allocated to handle the case.

"There are hundreds of family members concerned for their loved ones and of course they're frustrated to not have any answers as to what's going on and why their loved ones won't be coming home tonight [Thursday]," said lawyer Sean Bernstein.
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Among those arrested in Wednesday's massive raids targeting the Driftwood Crips street gang are the sister of the 15-year-old boy fatally shot inside a school and several of the alleged gang lieutenants.

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From the CBC: Laureen Small (mother of Jordan Manners), has been pushing for the provincial government to take a deeper look into the causes of violence among youth since his death.

From my vantage point mothers like Laureen Small are the problem.

... every gun collector I've met has been middle-aged, middle-class and WHITE sooo the way to stop young hormone soaked BLACK males from butchering each other is to drop like a ton of bricks on some middle-aged dentist.

Semi-flippantly, sometimes I think that the real impetus behing the left's obsession with gun control is to maintain the ability of certain fashionably ethnic sorts to make a living through gun-related crime (muggin', bangin', BnEin', otherwise keepin it real), without running the risk of having a gun-totin' citizen getting the drop on them.

"The problem isn't with blacks. It's with niggers." Reid at 10:04 am

Yes, thank you! I've long held that same view, but have been too timid in this PC world to state it openly. I can get along with ANYONE who wants to get along with ME; I harbour no ill-will against anyone of any race/colour/creed/religion, so long as they harbour no ill-will against me.

I have NOTHING against BLACKS...but I am disgusted by "NIGGERS" (though I haven't heard Chris Rock's take on this, I suspect I know exactly what he's referring to). By the same token, I have NOTHING against WHITES...but I am disgusted by "WHITE TRASH" and "KLANSMEN".

"What you think we bitches, We bad ass niggaz"// BANG BANG BANG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8uPVF3bB8w

and a well argued refutation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0o4ywl5a54&mode=related&search=

RCMP still thinks that we don't have a 'specific and identifiable' threat that could justify CFO to issue us the authorizations to carry.

Well, I hate to do it. But, I feel I must (grudgingly) give credit where credit is due.

I don't see anything from the MSM today that indicates that the guns are the problem or that gun control would fix all of this. At least on that front they're not pushing an agenda today.

I don't even see much in the way of the "it's society's fault" angle today. Of course, that might be tomorrow's news.

Here's an audio of it from Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CACC5VDrj9g

The patriotic flag draped fella managed to reveal his identity later in the video with a catchy little rap. I'm thinking he's probably not the kingpin.

But hey, give these niggers credit ( I to like Chris Rocks take on this), they are businessmen and as such branding is important.

Gangsta Nigger is a brand that manages to encompass such diverse themes as victim and victimizer, pride and pathos, independence and entittlement.

Hell...as a brand it has every dichotomy a well meaning totally asinine leftard could hope for. As such it represents the very best/worst that Leftardism has to offer.

Well done!

Syncro

p.s. I assume the basketball courts were vacant due to the fact that the real games don't start utill after midnight.

Of course at root it is a spiritual problem, roughly diagnosed as no hope.

Like the sign says in my neighbourhood:

"NO GOD, NO PEACE"

"KNOW GOD, KNOW PEACE!"

They could use some good Baptist soul music.

Cheers

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht BGS, PDP, CFP

Commander in Chief

Frankenstein Battalion

Knecht Rupprecht Division

Hans Corps

1st Saint Nicolaas Army

Army Group “True North”

So, it's America's fault Canada has Southern Niggers ?

Mama Please, go insult someone else. Canada has Nigger Street Gangs because your Gov't refuses to acknowledge the fact that these thugs have gotten out of hand and their Liberal Canadian Socialist Programs to appease the Blacks has failed; moreover, the Canadian Gun Control Legislation passed by your Politicians has accomplished nothing, and in fact, what was designed to protect the Canadian Citizen has failed.

Canada is not a Victim Of America's Environment. It is a making all of your own.

Now, let me go clean my guns.
,

maybe CBCpravda can do a special on Laureen Small and Mama Khadr.

call it "Its everyone fault but my own"

I wonder if these boys were breastfed or delivered by a midwife, Pravda!!! we need a correlation!!! Critics Say!!!!

Complete lack of discipline and a perpetual loser culture is the problem. No fathers (not that that necessarily matters) and a deluded leftist municipal government, blaming the situation on 'root causes', namely whitey keeping them down. Not to mention rampant pcism, that translates any rational identification and solution into rascism.

The way I see it there are a few solutions. One, put these kids in military training to teach them discipline. Then a bootcamp-disciplined education.

Two, do not allow any more Jamaicans to immigrate to Canada.

Three, break up the ghettos; the tribal mentality, dilute the 'gangsta' culture by spreading them out throughout Canada, as far from the border as possible.

If they're 'entitled' to welfare, then taxpayers are entitled to determine where they live.

I don't think the Crips will survive if their only recruits are spread out in tiny enclaves between Churchill Manitoba and Dildo Newfoundland.

...makes me want to watch reruns of Fat Albert.

Talk about bang on stereo-types.

Uh, excuse the pun.

Hey Tex Canuck, I know parts of Houston you don't drive down in being white...same I heard with Philadelphia's - they call one area Alice in Wonderland, the cops don't ever go there. Starting to get that way in Toronto I imagine.

Their mamas lost control of them. Tell us why Pravda.

Never said it was America's fault Ratt. If you notice I used the word "importation." I did not say America exported it's nigger culture. I said Canadian niggers imported American nigger culture. Just like with guns. It's not America's fault Canadian thugs get illegal guns from America.

If dumbass Canadian niggers want to pretend like they're dumbass American niggers then they should get treated like dumbass American niggers. That's all I'm saying.

This looks like a good project for a special op. JTF in disguise. Slip in about midnight. Round up the lot. If there packing heat, they die on the spot. Slip away.

Few nights of that, problem solved.

Too bad the simplest solutions are impossible to implement in Canada.

Kingston, Jamaica - with a population of 2.5 million - managed to have almost 500 murders between Jan 1, 2007 and May 18, 2007

Pro-rated on an annual basis, a city smaller than the GTA, will murder 1100 people.

Where are these Oogah-Boogah mofos getting MAC-10's from? If some black crack head can have one, why can't I?

And where did they steal the HK from?

A fella could have a hoot in the gopher patch with guns like that. Probably wouldn't get many, but you could sure have some fun....

;)

I just love that this is in Toronto.

Can anyone name on country that is run by black people that you would consider living in? EVER?

Africa didn't get the way it is because of anyone but it's original residents. It cannot be fixed for the same reasons.

Even that Nobel Prize seeking ego-maniacal rock star Bono can't fix it.

It's looking more and more that there is a "black gene" that prevents them from being civilized and peaceful. I think the Muslims have the same gene. The main source of income for both groups is welfare. Something in their genetics makes them ill suited to work like the rest of us. They prefer to shoot each other and us.

These are simply observations, I would not suggest that the "science is settled".

I suppose this also goes a long to explaining how the white race got to be the dominant race on this planet. Just another observation.

Sadly, I have noted in recent decades that half of us (Whiteys) seem to have become afflicted with that black or Muslim gene. Those folks are identified as Leftists. They like their money to come from governments too. They also support the Black and Muslims groups as being morally equivalent to the white Christian who built the modern society that the rest of them live off of.

That too is just an observation, the science isn't settled yet there either.

Isn't science interesting?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC-10

"The compactness and high rates of fire for these weapons (no less than 1000 rpm for the M-10 and 1600 rpm for the M-11A1) worked against them. Their small size made them difficult to hold, and this, when combined with their high rate of fire (the magazine will empty in 1.57 seconds on full auto), made control challenging; this was a key factor in their never finding much success with the military."

Good eye Jim. Emptying your magazine in 1.57 seconds should ensure that there is lead all over the place. Another Virginia Tech in the making?

At 1000 rounds per minute thats whole lotta lead flying. I wonder how many magazines this individual carries?

Welcome to Tranna! Better learn how to duck.

Quack, quack.

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht BGS, PDP, CFP

Commander in Chief

Frankenstein Battalion

Knecht Rupprecht Division

Hans Corps

1st Saint Nicolaas Army

Army Group “True North”

Anyone know if Toronto Police Chief Bill Blair has popped up yet to say they come from "a broad strata" of Canadian society?

So the sister, Necole Small (who has the same last name as her mother), has a different last name than the brother Jordan Manners.

So from that we can deduce that they were half brother/sister. Same daddy, different mommas.

It would seem that many do not know what causes pregnancy. So they can never be sure of whose who or how they came to be here.

The certainly have no clue what to do once they are here.

I don't know what you people are worrying about.
When the Muslims take over these guys will be too busy praying five times a day to cause any trouble.

Of course they will have to learn that "YO YO YO here's a shout out to my main nigga Allah" is not an acceptable prayer.

Toronto the good.

We've got plenty of Jamaicans here in Calgary who haven't adopted this faux American gangster hip-hop crap. A few have, but it hasn't become a big problem yet. Most are hard-working, industrious people who fit in well.

These Toronto youths have bought into the whole hip-hop lifestyle bigtime - right down to imitating the accent. It's laughable watching them talk about the "hood" as they walk through neat, orderly streets and past well-maintained buildings.

It's amazing the influence that popular culture can have on young people. It's tragic when that culture is based on glorifying violence, murder, crime and squalor. Probably the best way to fight it is to make them realize how ridiculous and stupid they look.

I challenge anyone out there to parody this.

Can't help but think of that ole' saying;

Race does not cause racism. Culture does.

A 'thousand-rounds-a-minute' culture.

As commented before, it is as if the 'do-gooders' and the 'social planners' and the 'revolving door justice system' types, actually believe that taking away the thugs guns would deprive them of their 'charter right' to "make a living".

Could it all be that sick ??

Is that why Alan Rock and Chretien went after the farmer shooting a skunk instead of the rotten apples ??

I wonder why so few of these fine young men make it through the job interview process? Must be discrimination.

Thank You for setting that straight Reid, I apologize.

Between the Blacks, the Mexicans and the Muslims blaming everything on whitey, yet being the first one in line for a Gov't Handout I get a lil touchy when defending my Country.

Ratt said it well. This is a problem of our own creation. When Jane Kreba was shot, the Chief of Police that had huge & successful experience in LA and Chicago was called for help, he said in an interview, "Your problem is blacks, Jamaicans I think." and was interrupted with "Oh we don't talk that way." His response was "You'd better start. Identify the problem and give them no rest."
Obviously he was a Bush Poodle or what ever the left was using to bash the US at the time.

Broke my heart to hear a good man get put down by people that were not even up to shining his shoes.

The nut cases are in charge of the asylum.

2 nights ago, Michael Coren was on CFRB debating why so many people (especially in the black community) were arguing that the police raids (which netted only blacks to my knowledge) were racist. Except for one or 2 blacks who called, every black person on the phone was adamant that the ONLY reason the police raided the area was that cops were racist.
None of them acknowledged that dozens of illegal weapons, drugs and millions in cash were seized...that didn't matter.
This was the saddest case of denial I have heard and I think there lies the root of the problem. As long as blacks have this persecution complex and as long as they refuse to acknowledge the fact that their culture (rap, no fathers, 70% unmarried mothers, welfare entitlement) is a resounding failure, nothing will change.

Don't know if anyone also caught this but the result of the provincial tests (EQAO) in elementary schools last week revealed that the school with the lowest achievement was Yorkdale P.S., in the middle of an area refered to as "the jungle". Anyone wants to take a wild guess as to the demographics of this school? Wonder how many members in this school's chess club!

Yanni, although I suspect that you are exaggerating to make a point, I think your comments at 11:47 am are way over the line. Those comments smack heavily of what could truly be called racism.

Although I suspect that there very well may be a genetic link to personality traits or "attitude", I suspect that it is FAR more influenced by nurture or culture (or, likely more accurately, to a lack thereof).

I encourage you to clarify or tone down your comments. Please.

I find it totally amazing, but hardly surprising that the media is so quick to support a ban on firearms, but too affraid to mention that the real issue is immigration of peoples that are just wrong for this country. I say welcome all those people that come from any place, as long as they understand that getting a job, learning to speak english/french and a perpetualy clean criminal record is required to stay here. Even after they gain citizenship, that 'citizenship' must be conditional. Honour killings, gangs, or religious extreamism will not, and cannot be tolerated.

Importation of ethnic issues from their countries of origin will be illegal. Peaceful cultural customs are welcome but violent, political, or religious-based trouble will mean a swift ride to the nearest airport in handcuffs and a one-way ticket back to their country of last residence, refugee or political prisoner status be damned! Our house, our rules.....follow them or get out.

Yep. Trowna's cream of the crop and future city leaders. You got it first on YouTube. :(

One of my neighbours , who sadly passed away about fifteen years ago now, still kept his Webley .455 cal. service pistol from the great war..it had been issued originally during the Boer war, and was quite the hand cannon.

He told me once that he was still a good shot, and if one of those large bullets hit you, it was going to come out the otherside the size of your fist.

He told me that anyone trying to harm him or his family was "going to die of a severe case of lead poisoning.."

..of course, it would be but a brief exposure, well within govt standards, as it passed right on through you..

I'm sure the b*tches in that video would hate to take on armed citizenry..when you have to think twice about the crime, that's a good thing..hear that comrade Miller?

How's this workin out for the noble savages.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgwP-T9i3Yk&mode=related&search=

Eeyore,

I hear you. It's not racism it's extreme anger, frustration and disappointment.

Some of my best friends are blah blah.

When you don't have a responsible male role model, you create a lot of feckless macho marginal males that are poorly socialized.

The video speaks for itself. I doubt there is one father involved with any of those Clockwork Orange cretins.

Jews and Asians aren't found in ghettos because they have intact families. Almost 70% of black births are out of wedlock in the US. What's the chance of a young black male having a consistent nuturing relationship with a responsible male role model? Consistency counts.

Blacks have no one to blame but themselves for the rot that infests so many of their communities. After 40 years of incredible federal funding - the War on Poverty billions, welfare handouts, grants, affirmative action, with every giveaway skewed to blacks, if you are black and still at the bottom, it's your damn fault.

Stop immigration from THOSE places, there are enough of them here to breed a city full right now.
Dammit, it's such a tragedy the ones who get shot are such "great citizens" and had "great futures", the shooters are poor misguided youth, no pappy, yadda, yadda, (sarc. off).

Nuts to the lot of them and Davey Miller too.

Reid, close. Same momma, different daddies. Has anyone heard from Jordan Manners' father yet?

Regardless, it's not Toronto's fault this is happening. Generations of piss-poor immigration laws in concert with piss-poor crime laws are to blame for this.

It's nothing scrapping the Youth Justice Act, throwing parents in jail when kids do something stupid, not throwing every immigrant who comes to Canada in Toronto, and the immigrants who do come here making sure they speak English can't fix.

A lot you say? Well, Toronto is becoming Detroit.

Well, not that the PC gloves are off I can see that others are seeing and hearing the same things that I am: a bunch of tough guys trying to prove they are something they ain't.

I too wonder why the continent of Africa with all their natural resources is still basically in the stone age. ET probably has some tribal theory which could explain a lot.

As far as these Caqnadian n*gg*rs, the majority of the punks in the video were probably born here but it seems that they identified more with the afro-American gangsta image than being Canadian. After listening to the video I challenge anyone to tell me that what passes for rap music or hiphop stuff does not have an influence on youth.

There are 'hoods in Houston I wouldn't drive through at night but then again we are talking about a population of 5 million. And yes, most of the trouble is gang related which probably speaks volumes about the tribal/culture identification thing. Crime jumped when evacuees from NOLA came to town. Not enough turf to go around.

The big thing we have to do is not get caught up in the root causes thing and forget about enforcing the laws that society has established. Okay, I'm sorry about you not having a dad growing up but if you do the crime, you do the time, period.

Speaking of hand-waving and cliche-spouting politicians: here's an idea that might get through the "diversity" slot that would also prove to be very educational, to the voters:

You know the televised candidate-debate format, with three or four journalists facing the candidates? Just adapt that same format by putting one of those fine fellows in the video, or his likesake, per candiate - right where the journalists normally get put.

And then, we will sit back and watch the performance...

Yeah, those kids had all the weapons a white middle aged guy could get 14 years in jail just for owning.

The police now have the evidence, so what is the problem? Overcrowded prisons and courts are alleged to be the problem, so build a few more jails, appoint a few more judges, and make sure thugs get the maximum under law. Then we'll have a justice system where the door revolves a lot more slowly.

documentary was strangely lacking in humor
they should have asked to see their gun licenses and registration cards

one of the guns looked like a MAC 10 sub machine gun
but he probably had a "special permit"

use a gun- lose a thumb- can't shoot a gun without a thumb- these goofs are the same as our West Coast Niggers- Indo-Sikhs- here in Vancouver

What these niggers don't seem to understand is that all these niggers being killed are being killed by niggers, like you no what I mean man.

"GANG CONTROL NOT GUN CONTROL SQUAWK SQUAWK

Posted by: spurwing plover at June 15, 2007 10:18 AM "

THAT has to be the most sensible statement I have heard in a looooooong time. Unfortunately,our Charter doesn't allow it. You know. That nasty "equality" and "racism" thingie.

Just a comment on the above discussion. I attended the Pacific Northwest Search and Rescue Conference in Washington last month. Something that was noticeable in the 600 or so attendees was the lack of color (ie. one Afro-American, no Asians, perhaps a few Native Americans). Attendees came from all over the Pacific Northwest, British Columbia, and Alberta and surprisingly they were predominately 'white'! Anybody want to comment on why 'whitey' gets blamed for everything that happens to "recent immigrants" in this country and America, when it has been "whitey" that has created this society, that everybody wants a piece of, and it is "whitey" that volunteers both here and abroad to protect all members of this society.

Any chances of seeing the legal aid bill for this? (In a pig's ear! Getting these maggots back out on the street, is going to put a few lawyers' spawn through university.)
Any chances of seeing the legal aid bills that these vermin have already run up through previous convictions? (Sorry- that's lawyer/client confidentiality.)
Factor in- overtime for the cops to watch these people, ( from the nearest donut shop)
Plus- of course- the yearly increase in the police budget................
Hey- it's a win/win situation!

Give them a State!

Sorry wrong thread.
Noamsayin!!

Sorry.
There is no J in monsters

Sadly, this is all these kids have learned - from their parents and their environment. I am not a bleeding heart Liberal (far from it), but I see multiculturalism as a big part of the problem; when we are all encouraged to huddle in our own solitudes and celebrate our "diversity". It comes at a price.

What a disgusting cesspool of so-called humanity.
There is no excuse for those dregs under ANY circumstances allowed in this Country.
Haul their sorry asses off to jail and from there we need a reform type institution to humanize the Bastards, it would be well worth the expense.

This is diversity from the bottom of the heap.
Multiculturalism, diversity are killers with immigration from rat holes like Jamaica as well as
Immigration from countries which spawn Islamic terrorism is a recipe for disaster.

What does this have to do with immigration? These guys were probably born here. Black people have lived in Canada since the 18th century.

Immigration from the same sources is still going on.
It's about behavior and lifestyle, it's only about Blacks because that's what they are, Blacks. If they were White, we'd be calling them Whites.

It's not about Black people in general, Belisarius and you have to know that.

Political correctness just doesn't allow truth.

What we are seeing here on a small scale is "reprimitivization". Someone wrote a column about this in the paper a while ago. Basically he said that most of Africa is descending back into a caveman culture. When the colonial powers left Africa, most of the continent, especially the ones that were British colonies were functioning countries, with th institutions of a state and at least an educated middle class. Now fifty years later none of this exists any more. No legitinate goverment, no education, none of the institutions of a modern state. They are also at the point, with very young populations, and a very short life expectancy that they are several generations away from the memory of a functioning state.

What do you think the odds are that the kids in this video will have normal functioning families and raise productive children. I think we are seeing the same reprimitivization process here. Socialism caused it, more socialism is not going to fix it. Why do all these women have children without husbands to support them? Because we support them. If there was no welfare and public housing these women would not allow this to happen.

Now THERE'S some criminals that love their job, and aren't worried about those silly stereotypes 'nshit!

Someone's gotta protect the hood from whitey...

This was actually painful to watch. It's almost like watching someone commit suicide -- you don't want to see it, but morbid curiosity makes you watch.

There are six more installments just like this. It seems to have been a documentary of sorts. You can find them in the YouTube user's profile here:

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=carlkma

Commenters on the segments can't tell if this is real of if it's over-the-top parody.

If it's real, it truly saddens me that people do this to themselves.

I'm also disappointed in some of the comments here at SDA. I understand that some of you are disgusted and angry after seeing this, but that's no excuse for some of the comments made in this thread. There is absolutely no reason for anyone here to be using "nigger" to refer to the people in this video, regardless of their behavior or how they refer to themselves.

mbaron, interesting comments. So true. A good number of blacks hate whitey and whitey's governance, but given the chance they can't govern themselves properly. Look at what Mugabe did to his own country. But it's not just blacks. Chavez is headed the same way with Venezuela because of his burning hatred of the USA combined with his insane socialist policies. Some people are not fit to govern and should never be given the chance.

"Black people have lived in Canada since the 18th century."

That's true. There never were very many until the last 30 years, and they never fell as low as the second and third generations of Toronto Jamaican-Canadians has. When you're in a hole, the first thing to do is stop digging. In this case, that means not letting more Jamaicans in.

Someone said, "No fathers (not that that necessarily matters)".

Holy smokes! Nothing could be further from the truth. Every child needs a mother and father. To lose the influence of either is to lose part of not only ourselves, but of all of the nurturing, experience, wisdom, maturity, guidance, discipline and love unique to each gender.

Which is why I'm also against adoption by gays. Yes, it's better to have two men or women raising you, than to be in care of the state. But you simply cannot replace what each gender brings to the table.

And the horrible results of absentee fathers is in full flower in the Jane-Finch area, apparently.

Someone said, "No fathers (not that that necessarily matters)".

Holy smokes! Nothing could be further from the truth. Every child needs a mother and father. To lose the influence of either is to lose part of not only ourselves, but of all of the nurturing, experience, wisdom, maturity, guidance, discipline and love unique to each gender.

Which is why I'm also against adoption by gays. Yes, it's better to have two men or women raising you, than to be in care of the state. But you simply cannot replace what each gender brings to the table.

And the horrible results of absentee fathers is in full flower in the Jane-Finch area, apparently.

I'm sure they all really nice boys.

What language are they speaking?

OK, so now you know that Jordan Manners' sister was picked up in the raid. But did you know that it's now being alleged that a member of the Driftwood Crips avoided initial arrest because he was tipped off by a family member on the Toronto police force?

calsun.canoe.ca/News/National/2007/06/16/4265432-sun.html

Blacks themselves hate the Jamaicans as they are dangerous thugs, always causing problems, yet when I wrote a letter to Lorrie Goldstein in the Toronto Sun stating, as many of you have suggested, that Canada should ban immigration from Jamaica he called me a racist.

Belisarius, I grew up in downtown Toronto and Scarborough and finished high school in the early 60s and never saw a single black person until grade 12 at Winston Churchill High School. This was the largest school in the area (1,500 students) and had 1 black student. Today when I drive by I don't recognise it. Once you have a large enough population to allow the criminals and inhabitants to resume their former culture it will reassert itself. Give it time in Calgary and you will have the same problems.

2006 Fifth Estate documentary on Jane-Finch
Lost in the Struggle

www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jane+finch

I try and avoid Toronto so I have no idea what the situation is there. The guys in the video appear to be wannabe American hip-hop gangstas, complete with the BS accents. I can't tell if they're the children of Jamaican immigrants or not.

So how bad is the problem?

Kathy Shaidle: Why don't Japanese people live in Public Housing? Or Jews?

Surely there must be a few....

"Toronto Community Housing is the largest social housing provider in Canada and the SECOND largest in NORTH AMERICA. It is home to about 164,000 low and moderate-income tenants in 58,000 households, including seniors, families, singles, refugees, recent immigrants to Canada and people with special needs...

...Our portfolio includes more than 360 high-rise and low-rise apartment buildings, as well as about 800 houses and duplexes throughout the city."

www.torontohousing.ca/our_communities/default.asp?load=units

I think some people would be willing to kill just to be able to live in the Beaches or at 679 Queen's Quay W.

Texas Canuck wondered why Africa is still basically in the Stone Age, despite all their resources.

Here's my take on it: It is because of all their resources. For centuries, it has been easy for Africans to live in a primitive, tribal lifestyle. Food was plentiful; without any industry, the water was clean. Their lack of medical knowledge meant that so many died, populations were stable.

Northern Europeans, on the other hand, had to learn to survive winter. That meant storing food and fuel for a community. They had to build shelters, organize farms, and bring in harvests. And, during those winters, when farming activity ceased, there was time to tinker and invent. So, little by little, architecture became more complex, houses were built of stone instead of mud, castles formed the centre of budding towns, and a civic society was formed.

As transportation improved (let's not forget the Romans were building roads all over Europe, as well as their astounding acqueducts, as early as 500 BC), different cultures learned the advantages of trade. Rules were formed for trade, duties, safe conduct, etc. Codified laws covering many areas of society became more complex.

All of these things contributed to a society where people realized that co-operation led to greater prosperity for all, compared to a "might makes right" society. Granted, this took centuries to occur, but especially after the English revolution of 1688, things took off exponentially. So, for three centuries, European technology led to an acceleration of civic society, whereas African society had remained virtually the same.

During the colonization of Africa by the European nations, the rudiments of a civic society were built up, but as we have seen in the post-colonial era, it has only taken half a century for most of that work to be undone. In my view, if the Europeans had held on until now, the new information technologies might well have been the key to instituting true civic society in Africa.

Instead, the reversion to their tribal society has given us the massacres in Rwanda and Darfour, the turmoil in Ethiopia and Somalia, and the complete waste of Zimbabwe. Even in South Africa, arguably the most civilized of the African nations, most whites live lives behind high walls, protected by bodyguards. I don't see this trend reversing.

Well, that's how I see it. I believe someone once said "Geography is destiny". I think that's true.

Interesting thoughts, kevinB. Probably a lot of truth there.

Ethiopia is one African country that differs somewhat. It is one of the oldest Christian nations in the world, and was never colonized. Despite some Soviet-inspired strife, it has managed to maintain both its independence and civic and religious order. Today it has become a fledgling democracy that has helped fight Islamic extremists in Somalia.

JM wrote about the ____? in the video: "I'm sure they all are really nice boys." That's the view of the public school boards in this country. Behaviour Codes for these guys? In a teacher's dreams.

KevinB: fair analysis of Africa, I think. Canadian geography/social issues textbooks? Colonization is the sole reason for Africa's problems.

Falconer Inquiry, instigated by the Toronto District Foo . . . whoops! School Board, re the Jordan Manners case, to look into the "Safe [sic] School" policies and practices of the board? It's headed by a black lawyer, Julian Falconer, who's a Charter and multiculturalism booster (and was one of Maher Arar's defence team). His deputy? Alvin Curley, black NDPer. Now isn't all that encouraging?

Welcome to the dystopian Charter Hell of the “new, improved” Canada.

I said,

"No fathers (not that that necessarily matters)".

"Holy smokes! Nothing could be further from the truth. Every child needs a mother and father. To lose the influence of either is to lose part of not only ourselves, but of all of the nurturing, experience, wisdom, maturity, guidance, discipline and love unique to each gender."- no guff

What I said is true when you consider that the fathers are likely criminals on welfare as well. Either that or dead. In either case not good role models.

Jordan Manners' sister was charged with possession of an illegal handgun and ammunition, (is that one charge- or two separate charges?).
The gun was in the home of her boyfriend, where she was spending the nite. It gets even better- that .25 caliber pistol, was very possibly the weapon that killed her brother !?!
It appears, that if an illegal weapon is found in a home, then everybody in that home is charged with possession of that weapon? (And then, the taxpayers pay the fee of the legal-aid lawyer, to get these charges dropped? Any chances of seeing the legal aid bills for this?
(In yer dreams).
I'll bet money- that most of these people that were rounded up, come from Jamaica. Jamaica
gets FOREIGN AID from Canada. Strip these people of their citizenship, ship their asses back where they came from, and deduct their legal costs from our foreign aid to that county? (We can't prevent them from sneaking back in- of course- but there is nothing preventing us from DOUBLING the deductions, the next time around).

"possession of an illegal handgun and ammunition, (is that one charge- or two separate charges?)

Irrelevant. Mulitplicity of charges run concurrently and remand time is counted as double.

We just had a kid who in concert with another, killed one old man and most certainly contributed to the death of a second elderly man. These terrible crimes took place over two days, in the same public park washroom. They discovered that a large bat would be preferred for their second soiree.

Because one of these elderly men died some days following the attack, it was deemed not to be murder, but rather, criminal assault.

The 'youth', now 20, was given six years for the major crime and lesser sentences for the other two serious convictions. All to be served concurrently. Because he has already served time in remand, most expect him to be paroled in 18 mths or less.

Oh, and he's petitioning the courts to prevent his name from ever being know or associated with what in effect was a double homicide.

Canadian Values. Makes me proud.

The have nots always hate the haves. This has been consistant through out history. The problem is the feminization of our society and the lefties trying to spread out enough for everyone. We should have a government that provides roads and a justice system, and let Darwin take over. This will drive the moonbats crazy as they drag out pictures of poor little Timmy, starving and on crutches. I live in toronto, know it inside out and deal with people all over the city from all walks of life, and these gun toting niggers are far greater in numbers than any little timmy's

The have nots always hate the haves. This has been consistant through out history. The problem is the feminization of our society and the lefties trying to spread out enough for everyone. We should have a government that provides roads and a justice system, and let Darwin take over. This will drive the moonbats crazy as they drag out pictures of poor little Timmy, starving and on crutches. I live in toronto, know it inside out and deal with people all over the city from all walks of life, and these gun toting niggers are far greater in numbers than any little timmy's

When immigrants come to this country and go on our welfare system, health care and education included and don't improve into their second generations to become productive citizens, there's something drastically wrong the system.
EYES LEFT!

Well Canada don't say we Americans never gave you anything. Ahhh...the gift of ignorance, enjoy.

Come to think of it, 50 cent poisoning the minds of Canadian youth and instructing them on how to be gangsta about squares us for that whole "Brian Adams" thing.

i would say that if they have no problems with what they do why the hell do they hide their faces. i mean they are so happy about how their lives are and they are hidding sounds like a bunch of punks to me. cause if your life is so damn good and you don't have a problem flashing a gun around then i don't understand the problem with me seeing who want to shot me in my damn ass. bunch of stupid fools