The hard left: where organizations go to commit suicide.
Posted by Kate at May 25, 2007 11:04 AMTrackBack URL for this entry:
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Not that I would, but I would not really be afraid to bad mouth the United States of America in downtown Chicago, Wichita.
Tehran ?? Bagdad 10 years ago ?? Havana ?? Moscow 30 years ago ??
Bad mouth Canada in downtown TO and the CBC will be there in a minute, .... three part series.
American Presidents are limited to 8 years.
Castro ?? since 1959
Saddam ?? Would still have had his boys raiding weddings.
Who wrote the book 'Friendly Dictator' ??
Just what do some people want ??
Posted by: ron in kelowna at May 25, 2007 12:10 PM
Link's gone, apparently.
Posted by: Eugene at May 25, 2007 12:29 PMNot gone, ... link is working.
Posted by: ron in kelowna at May 25, 2007 12:40 PMIf every enemy combatant in Afghanistan was brought to the US and treated like an American citizen by law - the cash flow into Amnesty International and their member's pockets would be astronomical, billions would have to be spent.
Habeus, shmabeus - ultimately, for the lawyer 'supporters' of AI, it's about the money.
Posted by: philanthropist at May 25, 2007 12:59 PMInteresting link especially when you look at the history. Started by a campaign to free prisoners imprisoned in Portugal for toasting freedom and ending up campaigning to free prisoners who blow up women and children to stop them from seeking freedom from tyrants. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions and with more than a little help from leftists who feel rather than think.
Posted by: DDT at May 25, 2007 1:10 PMCBC radio confirms Shamnesty International's credibility here:
http://no-libs.com/?p=1731
Posted by: Knight of Good Mr. Iron Man at May 25, 2007 1:20 PMThe link is not working
Shamnesty International really touched a nerve in the US by comparing the Gitmo facility to the Gulag of the old soviet union, and people quickly pointed out the massive differences between the the two prison set-ups. Prisons, no matter how close they comply with human right regulations are not nice places. Many of the inmates are in there for very good reasons. Just in the western prisons, the prisoners do a good job of making life hell for both the guards and other inmates that the guards don't need to join in. (Although its time that prisons stopped being lounges and started going back to some of the good old traditions of chain gangs and strict control). A lot of those types in Gitmo are maniacs who have the same mentality of those that destroyed the twin towers and the US government is not dealing with legitimate soldiers. The prisoners are raiders and bandits that the Americans and their allies captured, so they are different than common criminals.
In additions, Amnesty international is known for being biased against western governments for a long time. They did not publish any inormation on the Soviet gulags until the large influx of information about the Russian labour camps came out after the fall of the soviet union forced them to say something about it.
Posted by: M1 Garand at May 25, 2007 1:35 PMI also forgot to give my two cents about these so-called human rights groups. They were crying foul that the Iraqis were going to give Saddam the fate that he so richly deserved, while forgetting the atrocities that Saddam himself commited over 10 years ago when crushing the Shiite rebellion in the south and punishing the Kurds with poison gas for supporting Iran during the Iran-Iraq war, and his army's Nazi-like tactics when invading Kuwait, and their destructive scorched earth policies when they were forced to leave. When the human rights activists were whining over the humiliation of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib by American soldiers, they forgot that it was a far cry from what was happening there during the Hussein regime, where Abu Ghraib was practically an Auschwitz for Saddam's political prisoners.
It is no longer about human rights for Amnesty international and those other groups, but about anti-americanism, and their relevance and credibility is fading the more radical they get.
let us all be cognizant of the fact that toynbees observation about civilizations also applies to institutions. They don't die by murder they commit suicide.
Usually slowness to adapt to a changed competitive landscape and overcome internal barriers to reform is a matter of will and those that don't change die because they made a conscious decision not to guaranteeing their demise. Or they take a decision but it is the wrong one and they cease to be relevant and fade away. i work in an institution like that now that was once world class and now unlikely to be considered more than a regional centre of excellence.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_J._Toynbee
Wasn't Amnesty International a well respected NGO about 25 years ago? Is this the same organization?
Posted by: felis corpulentis at May 25, 2007 2:32 PMI fail to see a problem here: the f___ers were brought from a desert to Kuba to be detained for interrogation.
What do they prefer?
To be detained in that desert?
Fine by me, but my gut feeling is that they belch because they want a chance to skedaddle or are hoping to be rescued by their crony 'bin Laden.