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April 20, 2007

CBC: Hues Of The News

Set aside for a moment the journalistic misrepresentation on display in using a photo depicting air pollution to illustrate a story on the costs of meeting Kyoto mandated C02 reductions... cbckyoto.jpg

There's a little more than lack of scientific accuracy going on here. Reader "JRB" wrote, wondering if there was evidence of photoshopping.

My initial reaction was "no". But then I noticed the file name (top-kyoto2.jpg) ends in the numeral "2". Now, I know what it means when I add a "2" to a file name, so I removed it to see if anything came up.


top-kyoto.jpg

How about that? It's an uncropped version of the same photograph, the difference in overall hue impossible to miss. A little extra searching reveals that CBC used the blue-toned image in a similar formats here and here.

So, with two dramatically different versions before me, the evidence that one has been altered is clear. Therefore, I think it's fair to ask - who at CBC news made the decision to "dirt enhance" the image that accompanies the item on John Baird's report?

And why?


Update - CityNews has footage of the smokestacks being demolished in 2006.

An unenhanced photo of the same site in July of 2005 (taken by reader andycanuck).

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Stephen Taylor - "Not only is the photoshopping unethical, it violates CBC's own Journalistic Standards and Practices."

If comments and loading are slow to respond, be patient. The server is under fairly heavy load at the moment, with incoming traffic from several top level American blogs. Thanks for the linkage, folks.


(In response to those commentors who argue that there is nothing at all unethical about photo manipulation of this type, let us resume the discussion on the day that a news outlet lightens a stock photo of Barack Obama to accompany quotes from African American political activists that he's not "black enough".)


Posted by Kate at April 20, 2007 12:13 AM
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Nice work detective kate

Posted by: James at April 20, 2007 1:06 AM

Your amazing Kate. However do you find the time.

Posted by: geothermal at April 20, 2007 1:09 AM

This whole global warming lie will go down in history as one of the biggest scams of the 21st century.

Posted by: Western Canadian at April 20, 2007 1:11 AM

Considering it's the CBC, the 'Why?' is self-evident.

I would argue that the 'Who?' is largely irrelevant too since the CBC is a monolith of group-think.

They're predictable lemmings who long ago became unworthy of serious consideration as a news service. I think this far into the Internet cycle that they're probably no longer worth a back-handed fisking.

Ignore them, and vote for whomever vows to cut their funding.

Posted by: chip at April 20, 2007 1:12 AM

I agree with your sentiments on this, Kate......as I have on many before....But I have asked myself if you (or anyone else) actually sends the criticism to the CBC or the Press Council or anyone else....One drop of water on a stone may not have much effect, but repeated drops on the same stone may well wear it down. Just a thought....

Posted by: Cascadia at April 20, 2007 1:16 AM

Obviously the true image is the one with the bright blue smoke.

Posted by: mijnheer at April 20, 2007 1:17 AM

We distort, you inform.

Posted by: Bernie at April 20, 2007 1:19 AM

They really are weiners aren't they. I wonder if they eat them with a fork, like their dear leader.

If the Kyoto cultists had their way, the same steam and carbon monoxide, along with other crap, would still spew into our air and water.

But, oh happy day, we would have "sequestered" the CO2 into liquid form, as toxic a chemical as there is, and pumped it into mine shafts, using at least 50% of the GHGs "saved." That, not developing non-carbon technologies, is showing environmental "leadership."

No, that's "saving the planet" in Mayday's and Dionsky's world. Sorry, when they do their personal cost benefit analysis, the electorate not going for the fake bravado.

Al Gore's inconvenient march to the Presidency or CBC's leftards won't change that.

Posted by: Shamrock at April 20, 2007 1:19 AM

*
I know someone who used to work at the CBC...
who might be able to answer that question.

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Posted by: neo at April 20, 2007 1:26 AM

The cbc is so busy patting themselves on the back for not showing all the VT killers video they thought nobody would notice this.
How fast things change. Last week it was the NBC network taking credit for firing Imus for using a few words that supposedly insulted a few people. Then they turn around and copy information from a killer and broadcast it to the world. But, they did turn the original over to the authorities. Millions watched the video, and the wall to wall coverage. The same people upset over a few words.
To their credit, families are boycotting interviews on networks that aired the footage.
The first thing my son said, when the news of the massacre first broke was, I would hope that the killers name and photo are never mentioned on TV.
Don't give him the publicity he wants. Send a message to the next guy, you will be ignored. There will be a next time.

Posted by: mary T. at April 20, 2007 1:39 AM

Wondering about CBC's fair and balanced reporting? Have a look at their 'report' of Baird's news conference on the costs of Kyoto:

http://www.cbc.ca/mrl3/8752/vsu/wmv-hi/boag-kyoto070419.wmv

Judging from their reality check, they live in a different reality than I do!

Posted by: Tweleve:01 at April 20, 2007 1:39 AM

...reminds me of the Matrix or Soylent Green where lens filtering was used to emphasize something.

Posted by: tomax7 at April 20, 2007 1:44 AM

One must ask the question- SO WHAT?
I guess since CBC altered a photo in a story that they ran, which really when you think about it for a nanosecond has very little to do with the argument, it’s considered as evidence to right-wing knuckle walkers that global warming doesn't exist.
It’s just a picture, a representation of a sick environment. If you can figure out a way to photograph CO2, I’m sure CBC would be willing to pay you for the technique.

Speaking of photos, I found one of Baird as a baby
http://nicolas40.free.fr/fotos/image%20marante/big_mouth.jpg

Posted by: albatros39a at April 20, 2007 1:44 AM

www.junkscience.com...
The Great Global Warming Swindle looks to still be available for viewing at Junk Science.

The thing is, right there in the middle of the screen you will see a link, through YouTube, which will take you to a 2004 CBC documentary entitled "Global warming: Doomsday called off". I've only watched the first 9 minutes (so far), but at first blush it looks pretty good.
Frankly, if the CBC wants to establish (re-establish?) itself as a credible news "emitter", it should stick to doing stuff like this 2004 documentary... and cut out with the crapola it's become renowned for in the last 25+ years.

Posted by: Joe B. at April 20, 2007 1:47 AM

Ironically enough, those smokestacks, if I'm not mistaken, are the "four sisters" of the coal-fired Lakeview Generating Plant in Port Credit. The plant has been closed and the stacks have since been demolished (June 2006). So also thank the CBC for running an "up-to-date" photo too.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 20, 2007 1:48 AM

The stacks seem to have been cropped out of the photo because they would have made the photo look fake, i.e., sepia looking.

Posted by: Jonathan at April 20, 2007 1:53 AM

Here's a short video of the demolition:
http://tinyurl.com/2hsm25

Posted by: andycanuck at April 20, 2007 2:00 AM

albatros39a (1:44 AM)

Why do you link:
"...global warming..."
with:
"...CO2..."?

The 2 are exclusive of one another, haven't ya heard? It's been firmly established that "hockey sticks" are for hockey players; scientists don't know how to use 'em.

See my comment above. Have a look at Junk Science. Then take some time to reflect, maybe.

I'll stick with science; the CBC should adhere to that philosophy, too, when it comes to CO2 emissions in regard to global warming... forget the phony photographs.

Posted by: Joe B. at April 20, 2007 2:02 AM

The meat of this conflict is hidden because one team paints it all black and the other all white.

Amazing that our conservative government has the integrity to advance on enviro moves for the betterment of all.

BS and Magna moved away from the CPC when it was evident that Harper would not bar progress that will devastate the auto parts business.

The need for ICE engines and all the systems hardware that supports them will diminish over time as people discover that municipal governments and the informed are switching to hybrids and EVs.

Chevron can not be too happy about the blossoming of hybrids and EVs. They have tens of Billion$ invested in modern credit card fuel pumps and gas refineries.

While the changes to modern transport fuel methods will be gradual, anyone can see that oil company profits will diminish along with employment.

Change is always painful, true, but living wihtout advances is deadly.

Prices in refined fuels should be coming down. Only unrest in the middle east keeps up prices. Auto fuel efficiency has improved better than one third over the last 6 years and there has been an influx of alternate fuel vehicles. No wonder Acmahdinejad keeps Muqtada al Sader and the blackshirts motivated in Iraq.

The lessening demand has to bring down prices and deflate some of the steam in shrill ME mullahs. I can*t wait. = TG

Posted by: TG at April 20, 2007 2:11 AM

(TG, 2:11 AM)
I think you've nailed it. In my bones I've always thought this is the ONLY explanation as to why reasonable politicians (i.e. Steven Harper) tend to go along with Kyoto, at least part way. Pretty hard for them to come out and say "We must forestall the middle east terror-financing network by becoming more energy efficient". "Save Mother Earth!" is much more appealing to a wider audience, is it not?

Posted by: Joe B. at April 20, 2007 2:24 AM

You can eliminate all the vehicles in Canada and it won't make any difference to our CO2 emissions.

The major emitter of CO2 in our country is Electricity. Just look at what has happened in the last 20 years or so. Computers...Not a great consummer of electricity in themselves but when you have 10's of millions of them on day and night,,TV's the average house now has 3 or 4.. Blacbkerrys-Cell phones.. It doesn't take much power to keep them charged.. but look at the infrastructure, Cell phone towers, main interchanges, how about fridges in the garage to cool beer , and a bar fridge..The list goes on.

In Ontario, when Dalton McGuinty got elected he was going to shut down all Coal powered electrical stations by 2007. Well he hired John Manley to do a study and the main result was..."Yes Ontarions want the cleanest enegy possible but at the end of the day when they flick the switch they want to see the lights come on"

I do not accept the premise that Global warming is happening. There is too much science out there that refutes what is reported by the main stream Media.

I do beleive that when the IPCC sends out reports that they are backed by scientists the the majority of the scientists are Social Scientists ie. Politicians, Tree Huggers. etc...

But I do blame the present hysteria on the Greens ( Birkenstock Crowd) as they were the ones that caused this through the same scare tacticts that is used today to scare on Global Warming.

In the 60's They put the fear into people about nuclear Energy. The result, electrical demand was met with Coal, or Gas, both CO2 emittitng industry's.

Why do you think that France and Belgium don't have a problem with CO2 today,, it's probably because their electricity comes from non CO2 emitting nuclear power.

In Saskatchewan, We have the fuel, we are the OPEC of Uranium, Why do we export the raw material... We should be using it to fuel our electriciyneeds and possily our own tar sands.

I could go on and I will with future posts

RL

Posted by: RL at April 20, 2007 2:27 AM

Some good points RL,

The North American grid can easily support the over night charging of 180,000,000 EVs with no undue stress on the system. We may not reach that vast number overnight.

Clean-coal Tech has been fine tuned and we should install it at every Coal-gen plant as well as exporting it to China, India, Asia, Rusia where dozens of plants come on stream monthly. = TG

Posted by: TG at April 20, 2007 2:45 AM

Just remember. As far as the radical Left is concerned, this is not a way to reduce CO2 emissions. This is a way to introduce vegetarianism. Cows produce far more "greenhouse gases" and Suzuki already suggests that one thing you can do to help the environment is to eat meat-free once a week.

Posted by: Shawn Abigail at April 20, 2007 3:25 AM

If that is a photo of the 4 sister smoke stacks, and if as mentioned they have been demolished, what a great idea for a political ad. A before and after pic of the site, with dates, and the message, we got it done in less than 2 years. The ad could start with Iggy saying We didn't get it done.

Posted by: mary T. at April 20, 2007 3:46 AM

albatros39a (1:44 AM)

I thought FAKED /MANUFACTURED NEWSPHOTO ILLUSTRATIONS was the job of Canuck Samantha Brezhnev and the gang at the "Dhimmi Show with Jon Sandinista", or "This Horror Has 22 Mujahideen"; not people whose goal is "to be The Voice Of Canada To The World".

Posted by: jwkozak91 at April 20, 2007 4:32 AM

One wonders why you weren't as diligent to inform us that the wonderhomes in Kurdistan that you posted on your blog were in fact CGI.

Posted by: Jose at April 20, 2007 5:34 AM

albatross, global warming/climate change is not man made, there is more than enough science to prove this, it might be wise to read some of it.

Posted by: jmorrison at April 20, 2007 5:58 AM

alby, u leftard moron
1. we are knuckle draggers, not knuckle walkers

2. what was done here is fraud, a lie, an untruth, deceit

I do not know about you, but I have raised my children with the lesson that lying is bad, no matter how right you think your cause is

Posted by: kingstonlad at April 20, 2007 7:03 AM

The CBC has and always be the biggest government funded lie in Canadian history.

Posted by: Ryan at April 20, 2007 7:12 AM

Last night on the news David McGuinty said if we don't act now on global warming the economic effect will be - get this - "greater than World War I, World War II, and the Depression combined". Given that the media lets him say this sort of stuff without fact checking, I almost can't blame him.

Posted by: Bob at April 20, 2007 7:24 AM

I'm in no way defending the CBC and its record of misrepresentation , but, being a graphic designer myself I can understand the process that goes into making a website. There may have been a time constraint on getting the story out, or there may have been a problem with the availability of up-to-date photos to use for the article. I have at times (especially in college courses with the tight deadlines and lack of funds that go along with that) took available photos or artwork and adapted to fit a certain format, layout, or colour scheme. In graphic and web design, the final product is often more important that the individual pieces...
For example, I need a picture of a city encroaching on natural habitat to go along with an article...however I can't find what I need, so I might photoshop two separate elements together to make what I need.
It's hard to say if anything sinister was at play here, or if it was just a case of what the designer thought looked good for the topic of the article. And as another poster put it, it's pretty hard to take a picture of a bunch of CO2 over Toronto.

Posted by: troy at April 20, 2007 7:44 AM

CO2 is tasteless, colourless and odourless when someone brings smog into a discussion on global warming you know they are a dingbat.

Despite how much money the taxpayers are fleeced to pay them.

the CPC wanted to fight smog the MSM's said nooooooo.

Now they show pics of it to prove global warming?

loosers.

Posted by: DrWright at April 20, 2007 7:52 AM

albatros obviously thinks that propaganda--which the taxpayer's forced to pay for--is A-OK.

Talk about "knuckle walkers"--thanks, kingstonlad, for the "knuckle draggers" correction: albatros is a "brain dragger"--like in the slime. This person needs to grow some legs and get to higher moral ground.

Posted by: lookout at April 20, 2007 7:54 AM

This has been going on in the CBC since 1968 at the earliest, when a "scientific" prediction of Pierre Trudeau winning the Liberal leadership was issued during CBC's coverage of the '68 convention. It was based upon "data" that was made up.

You might very well be surprised when you find out who was behind the data manufacturing. (See the eleventh paragraph, with the Pierre Trudeau link in it.)

Posted by: Daniel M. Ryan at April 20, 2007 7:57 AM

One wonders if Adnan Hajj has found work with the CBC. (Hajj is the "Reuters freelancer" whose photos of the Israel-Hezbollah conflict were digitally altered.)

Posted by: mark peters at April 20, 2007 7:58 AM

Let Dion, Layton and Green Momma Lizzie rant on, ultimately the people can decide who's spewing hot air on this scam.
We have to realize they know their theories are losing ground and they're scrambling for more attention with the gloom and doom rhetoric.

Canada is a very small polluter and following along with Kyoto we stand to pay a heavy price. Kyoto means rewarding big polluters at our expense.
It very much looks like the Liberals,Greens and NDP are out to get Alberta which drives the economy AND IS THE HEARTLAND OF CONSERVATISM.

David McGuinty equating global warming effects as greater than the two World wars and the Great Depression combined shows how desperate they've become. They're losing all credibility with statements like that.

Posted by: Liz J at April 20, 2007 7:59 AM

Bev Oda should be on top of this. If there was something 'unprofessional' going on in any other federal minisrty, wouldn't we be hounding the appropriate minister?We can't count on media to call CBC in to account...
Anything that 'appears' to be 'coverup' in foreign affairs, Mckay is hounded, then makes a statement; agrigculture, Strahl is hounded...where is Oda?if someone puts up her addy here she should have a busy w/e. Every other Ministry is accountable...why does CBC get this free ride.I'm sick of it.

Posted by: vf at April 20, 2007 8:02 AM

Further, do we have someone on our payroll at CBC to airbrush or doctor photos too? Bad enough to have to listen to their spin and try to wade through for truth, now we can't even believe our eyes.

Posted by: Liz J at April 20, 2007 8:05 AM

Photoshoping is fine as long as

1) It is clearly disclosed so any idiot can see it is made up

2) SO obvious, as in a parody, that you just know it isnt real.

This is deceptive and unprofessional from an organization that purports to be accurate.

The editor and the photoshopper should be fired, unless of course they were acting on a directive and then it is whoever told them to do that.

I look forward to the journalistic navel gazing on this one....not...there wont be a pip from anyone in the community.

Posted by: Stephen at April 20, 2007 8:08 AM

So, if the true facts don't fit the agenda well enough,

forget omitting context,

or highlighting some facts while omitting others,

or using misleading headlines,

or relying on handpicked "experts" who agree with the agenda, as authorities of the "truth",


just.......well.....lie.

I guess desperate agendas require desperate measures.

Posted by: biff at April 20, 2007 8:12 AM

Probably the most toxically hypocritical statement I heard was of some "environmentalost" theat Mothercorpse had on sound bite accusing Baird of "using scare tactics". LOL :)

Kyoto has been one vast fear mongered agenda from the get go.

Really tome to pull the plug on CBC News.

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at April 20, 2007 8:23 AM

biff...you hit the nail on the head...whose desperate agenda is this? CBC's or the Libs? Why is their no distinction? This picture(makes me cough) and is clearly misleading.This in not 'reporting'.

Posted by: vf at April 20, 2007 8:27 AM

BTW: this is another incident that shows that CBC believes it has an audience of mindless sheep. To a degree I suppose they do because to get your info soley from this source is to be purosely mislead and manipulated....some "transie" editor/producer at the Mothercorpse certainly got their visual communication skills in cold war era soviet states.

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at April 20, 2007 8:30 AM

Reagarding the Four Sisters at Lakeview, even when they were still standing I don't believe you could come up with that picture - the angles are off and the Toronto skyline in the background is too large given the distance between the two.

Additionally, the photographer would have to be at a certain elevation to have taken the photo - I'm scratching my head trying to think of a nearby building and geographical feature that would suit the purpose.

I could very well be wrong, but my impression is that the smokestacks were superimposed.

I'm also having trouble believing they ever belched that much visible smoke, but I could be wrong.

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at April 20, 2007 8:36 AM

Re: Beverly J. Oda.

The apple never falls far from the tree.


[...]

Throughout her life, Ms. Oda has been personally involved in the arts and theatre. Ms. Oda holds a Bachelor of Arts degree from the University of Toronto. She was an educator in Mississauga for six years, teaching art, theatre arts and English. Before entering federal politics, Ms. Oda spent more than 25 years in the fields of public and private broadcasting. Ms. Oda began her broadcasting career at TVOntario in 1973. She moved to the field of commercial broadcasting in 1976. In 1995, she was appointed senior vice-president at CTV. From 1987 to 1993, she served as a commissioner with the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC). She has also worked as a consultant in the areas of government policies and regulation in broadcasting, multiculturalism, and diversity....-
(innoversity-com)

Posted by: maz2 at April 20, 2007 8:41 AM

Kate said: "I think it's fair to ask - who at CBC news made the decision to "dirt enhance" the image that accompanies the item on John Baird's report?

And why?"

I think that's a formal question for the CBC Ombudsman....


.....and he should get such questions every time we see bias, innuendo, imbalance, partisan axe grinding, disinformation, misdirection, contrived omission...in any item from the Mothercorpse...then again we would be cropping more than half their daily brodcast copy if this was persued. ;-)

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at April 20, 2007 8:50 AM

Furthermore, the emission from these stacks was 99.999% STEAM....WATER VAPOUR!

Posted by: Kerry at April 20, 2007 8:56 AM

maybe its time for CBCpravda to reveal its hidden agenda, hidden behind that cloud of CO2(sic and sick)

Posted by: cal2 at April 20, 2007 8:57 AM

CBC has taken quite the liberty with their photos...following the links Kate provided that is a huge over-glaring sun melting the those poor tiny ice bergs too.
Anyone have copies of their form letters that they have received from the CBC ombudsman in the past. Is he(she) an employee of CBC or an independent?
Oda remains in her bubble...

Posted by: vf at April 20, 2007 9:03 AM

It’s just a picture, a representation of a sick environment. If you can figure out a way to photograph CO2, I’m sure CBC would be willing to pay you for the technique.

If I was to venture to take a picture of CO2 and relate it to global warming, I think I'd stop by a greenhouse - greenhouses pump in extra CO2 because it helps plants grow. So perhaps a picture of lush plant growth in a CO2-rich environment would work best. Or would a picture based on the actual science, not some misrepresentation of CO2 as a 'pollutant', cause you personal grief?

Posted by: Shane O. at April 20, 2007 9:23 AM

What I don't understand is why the entire left-wing marxist CBC staff and board wasn't either completely fired a year ago, or it's mandate changed.

Posted by: tom at April 20, 2007 9:23 AM

"One wonders why you weren't as diligent to inform us that the wonderhomes in Kurdistan that you posted on your blog were in fact CGI."

That's right Jose - Michael Totten is a big fraud. You really have a scoop there that could shake the blogosphere to its core. Now, run along and spread the word.

Jesus, what a loser you are.

Posted by: Kate at April 20, 2007 9:25 AM

Maybe the originally published photo was the doctored one.

Posted by: Ignoramous at April 20, 2007 9:45 AM

Is it possible to find a list of the names of the alarmists who were screaming about Y2K and the disaster it would bring, and check it against the Kyoto crowd?

Posted by: Trent at April 20, 2007 9:49 AM

Troy said..."For example, I need a picture of a city encroaching on natural habitat to go along with an article...however I can't find what I need, so I might photoshop two separate elements together to make what I need."

And this is not fraud? You make things up to go along with "what you need". Never got past grade 3,eh? Must freelance quite successfully with the CBC.

Posted by: Justthinkin at April 20, 2007 10:06 AM

Off of the CBC website, I read an article about Suzuki getting prepared to deliver a petition to Baird. Some of which was written as follows:

"Suzuki blasted the report, saying the government is ignoring the cost of ignoring climate change.

"First of all, let's stop listening to the goddamn economists," he said.

"Twenty per cent of the economy will disappear. It will cost more than World War I and World War II put together. We'll go into a kind of depression we've never, ever had in all of history."

What a hypocrite. He tells us to quit listening the economists, and then he makes what can only then be described as a totally unfounded economic impact statement that only he with his vast economic experience could generate (and this he calculated when he found the time away from trying to get fruit flies to procreate).

Last night I watched HNIC (the only reason the CBC has to live), and I saw an ad for "The Hour."
A clip of a Suzuki interview was shown and I turned to my wife and said " I cannot think of another man that disgusts me more than David Suzuki."

Posted by: John at April 20, 2007 10:09 AM

What I don't understand is this: CBC is a government funded new agency, why can't the government pull the plug on that scam of a media?

Posted by: Aaron at April 20, 2007 10:12 AM

hey 275000 is about as many as Harper lets immigrate each year if we stop immigration for a year we could hit equilibrium.

Posted by: DrWright at April 20, 2007 10:16 AM

By the way, that stuff you see coming out of the big stacks there? It is steam. You know, water vapor. It is either coming off a steam turbine, or is injected into stack to prevent smoking. Actual pollution is nearly invisible in modern industries.

Posted by: coyote at April 20, 2007 10:17 AM

Coyote: That's exactly what it is.... water vapour.

But I'm sure the "big oil" told me to say that.

Posted by: C.Little at April 20, 2007 10:25 AM

VanDusen last nite on CPAC had John Bennett from Climate for Change & Carl Sonnen, President of Informetrica.

mr sonnen gave an exellent overview of the report, while bennett critized it. Bennett was showing his true colors again & again, It is all The Current PM's fault because the PM warned of this enormous cost & called it a socialist idea 10yrs ago, also & he does not believe their will be cost involved(in other words he don't give a shit what happens to the economy aslong as he can save a tree)
Sonnen so rightly pointed out that he & others have been warning for over 10yrs that this would happen A train wreck in the Making. Then Bennett in around about way implied that Sonnen is for the Tories, Sonnen now getting a little agitated pointed out that in 93 their were 2names on an NDP policy 1 was his & he was asked to give an independent report, not support the gov't.
Go to CPAC video vault Just after David McGuinty accusations of fear mongoring

Posted by: bryanr at April 20, 2007 10:33 AM

We planted a cedar in the front yard last week. Where's my megabuck carbon offset, Al Gore?

Posted by: Aaron at April 20, 2007 10:43 AM

Actually, it's pretty clear that both photos are colour enhanced.

This is a news site. A year ago I was raked over the coals for suggesting that a photo journalist used photoshop to compose a photo placing a crown on Harper's head (he hadn't) - and was told that my comments were "borderline libelous".

When a Reuters photographer was caught cloning pics, they pulled hundreds of his photos from their files.

Now I'm supposed to believe that it's perfectly fine to use digital enhancement on photos that accompany news stories.

So, which is it?

Posted by: Kate at April 20, 2007 10:46 AM

aaron...the answer to your question: see maz2 comment at 8:41 today.
It's Oda's Minisrty, and where is Oda?

Posted by: vf at April 20, 2007 10:48 AM

Good for Mr. Baird to stand up an tell the truth about what this will cost.

The Kyoto emperor has no clothes, it is a scam, and a despicable pack of lies made up by anti-civilization Luddites. No wander many of these same people are in bed with the islamo-fascists. They want to drag us all back to some mythical pre-industrial Eden.

Even more despicable is the continued use of wild scare tactics, and the attempt to brainwash our children into acceptance of this miserable dystopia.

Posted by: jimbola at April 20, 2007 10:54 AM

Kate is correct that it right to call out the cbc on this, and I am the "jrb" kate credited.

As a former Toronto resident, the air there is poor but the photo is egregious, doctored and slanted.

When LGF caught Reuters, they fired/suspended the perp, and, in their own way, admitted the error. The CEO posted about it.

We should demand no less from the CBC.

Posted by: jrb at April 20, 2007 10:56 AM

let's see if i've got it right. you've produced an image of the 4 sisters on a clear day and that somehow supports the general belief over here that climate change is a socialist plot to rob albertans of their SUV's?

as someone who has lived in toronto for a long time, let me assure that the hazy view of toronto's waterfront depicted in the admittedly edited cbc image is increasingly more common than the other.

both images you offer from the cbc depict a city choking on it's own pollution. i fail to see your point.

despite the fervent wishes of some readers, the cbc is here to stay.

Posted by: jeff at April 20, 2007 11:00 AM

They have pulled their lovely piece of work and now have Baird's picture up...do they read your blog kate?

Posted by: vf at April 20, 2007 11:01 AM

D. Ryan: Thank you, for bringing up how the cbc rigged trudeaus election. Several months after said event, a program (like The Hour) interviewed several cbc female reporters, (one is still with the cbc) sort of bragging how they had worked the crowd. It was the first convention where computers were being used. They had fed in the results they expected. It wasn't turning out how they wanted and delegates were not trudeau fans. After the first vote, these reporters spread out and when interviewing delegates fed them this false info, that said group of delegates were going to so and so. The momentum was for trudeau. You know the rest. Liberals as usual being sheep and being led. They should all be sued for the damage they caused Canada. Try to imagine all the cbc talking heads, take 40 yrs off them and think of them as intelligent (I know, its hard) hippies. They haven't changed.
OT but funny, flip over to cnn and listen to Alex Baldwin rant against his 12 yr old daughter in a telephone conversation, calling her a pig. You can't believe his anger. This from someone who says Bush is -----, thinks global warming is real, would move to AB if Bush elected, only if they stopped hurting trees etc. Custody battles do strange things to people.

Posted by: mary T. at April 20, 2007 11:07 AM

CBCpravda definitely reads this blog. lots of stories have been pulled.

In this case CBBpravda was "hoist on their own retard"

Posted by: cal2 at April 20, 2007 11:10 AM

jeff just wanted us to look at his photoshop work....poor Libs suffering from ADD.

Posted by: anon#31 at April 20, 2007 11:11 AM

as someone who has lived in toronto for a long time, let me assure that the hazy view of toronto's waterfront depicted in the admittedly edited cbc image is increasingly more common than the other.

both images you offer from the cbc depict a city choking on it's own pollution.

I've lived in Toronto my entire life, and the "hazy view" is a gross exaggeration and not more common than the other.

Furthermore, for years Toronto politicians have been blaming smog on Ohio valley industry.

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at April 20, 2007 11:18 AM

Jeff: Toronto choking on its own pollution? I thought the Jack Layton memorial windmill on the Lakeshore blew it all across the lake to Buffalo or was that David Miller and his magic broom? Right.

Posted by: DDT at April 20, 2007 11:35 AM

Jeff: Toronto choking on its own pollution? I thought the Jack Layton memorial windmill on the Lakeshore blew it all across the lake to Buffalo or was that David Miller and his magic broom? Right.

Posted by: DDT at April 20, 2007 11:35 AM

Actually, jeff, there is no legitimate reason to maintain the CBC. The reasons for its existence are completely illegitimate and unethical.

It is not a news station but a propaganda mouthpiece for the Liberals; its staff are completely of the left perspective. When the Liberals are in power, then the CBC is useful as a propaganda instrument for that gov't. Now, when the Liberals are not in power, it is extremly useful to the Liberals, who have no money to fund an information campaign, to use the CBC as a taxpayer funded mouthpiece for their promotion.

The CBC has rejected its original mandate as a news and information site, and switched to operating as an appendage of the Liberal/NDP political agenda. In this transformation, the CBC has also set itself up as a government funded employer, supporting thousands of jobs - all working within that propaganda agenda. These employees, dependent on the taxpayer,will lobby to maintain those jobs.

The useless gun registry does nothing to prevent gun violence, but does provide jobs.

The CBC is similar; it does not provide information and news; it provides jobs for socialists. And, it functions as a propaganda mouthpiece for the Liberal party. And we taxpayers are hooked into paying for this propaganda. That's unethical.

As for emissions, Kyoto is a money laundering scam.
And pollution? How about walking the streets of Toronto, or driving its roads and highways. The garbage and litter, left by 'caring citizens' is incredible. Cigarette butts everywhere, trashed into flower pots, coffee cups - in sidewalk planters, newspapers read and simply tossed; the sidewalks littered with garbage. Check out side streets, where people fling their garbage onto other people's lawns, check out the attempts to set up public gardens and green spaces, that rapidly become filled with litter, garbage etc.

So - when the public gets emotional about 'pollution' and 'big industries' harming the air quality - I'd suggest that they start, minute by minute, checking out their own activities - not about emissions, but about pollution.

Posted by: ET at April 20, 2007 11:37 AM

What a hypocrite (Suzuki). He tells us to quit listening the economists, and then he makes what can only then be described as a totally unfounded economic impact statement.

Hypocrisy is order of day for Suzuki and their ilk. As Kingstonlad said, apparently for some, it's OK to lie as long as your cause is "just."

It's OK to decimate our economy (northern, cold, oil producing nation), at 2% of total human CO2 emissions. That's leadership.

To demonstrate their hypocrisy, one only has to look at Dionsky position on Afghanistan. It's at odds with previous Lib govts, no need to show leadership here. Just gain cheap political points at expense of our troops and benefitting cruel, despostic Taliban (20% of Afghan population), who would execute leftys, trade unionists and sociology professors in a heartbeat.

Posted by: Shamrock at April 20, 2007 11:38 AM

So, Kate, would you have been less scandalized if the photographer created two versions of the image on film using a Singh-Ray Gold n' Blue polarizer instead? (A nice way of duplicating this effect in camera.) Or is it Photoshop that you reserve your animus for?

I maintain that colour and lighting corrections, including those that could be duplicated by an on camera filter, are inconsequential. I'm more worried about pixel-pushing (cloning, patching, etc.).

Besides, the content of the article itself strikes me as being much more troublesome than the accompanying image.

Posted by: Sean at April 20, 2007 11:41 AM

I'm puzzled by the extent of sophistry conservatives will use to try to counter what is becoming an increasingly worrysome environment problem. Anything to divert attention from the facts. Pollution kills. Global warming will kill your grandchildren. But, nah...that's got to be a liberal plot! And CBC must be an accomplice of this plot, getting its marching order from David Suzuki. It's so much easier to prove!

Posted by: The Angry Reporter at April 20, 2007 11:54 AM

_(IMO) the original image is bad enough, and typically realistic as anyone currently from T.O. should be able to attest. The 2nd 'and here' link goes to a fuller Kyoto & Beyond labelled photo.
_Of slight note: the ex-Hydro coal plant is/were about 15 km away from the Toronto downtown, per a straight line over the angled waterfront. It is near the municipal border from Suburb to Metro Toronto in front of a mostly post-WWII uncongested residential region.

Posted by: Classic at April 20, 2007 12:03 PM

I'd like someone to explain to me why Toronto's pollution is a federal problem to solve? It isn't blowing in from the tar sands.

Posted by: Kate at April 20, 2007 12:03 PM

I'd like someone to explain to me why Toronto's pollution is a federal problem to solve? It isn't blowing in from the tar sands.

toronto will happily solve it's own problems once the feds give us our money back.

god knows we sent enough money west to help develop the oil sands in the first place.

Posted by: jeff at April 20, 2007 12:10 PM

Toronto's pollution is its own problem.
Any industry in the city has mostly been forced out into the suburbs due to the silly property tax policies so it's the cars that create the smog and what does T.O. do? Make traffic congestion a city policy by refusing to build expressways and narrowing streets and therby creating more pollution. I'm orignally from Toronto but Miller and his like deserve to stew in their own juice and good on them.

Posted by: DDT at April 20, 2007 12:11 PM

Daniel M Ryan at 7:57 above

This is Para 11 in case you didn*t check.
Konrad Black*s wife remembering work at the CBC.

She discloses in the book that, as a result of pressure from the producer of the show and also her boss, she made the results up. She did predict the winner, Pierre Trudeau, but the older Amiel expresses qualms about the fast one that her younger self pulled back then.

Dismissing the possibility that her [B]*little fraudulent poll*[B] (p. 77) changed the results, she nevertheless discloses that she *crowned* the CBC staff’s choice, and notes how easy it was to swim with the left-lib *syndrome* (p. 78,) one more pervasive than a mere conspiracy.

It prevailed in the CBC, and in the Canadian media generally. A then-young Henry Champ, then with CTV’s W5, suffered on account of this mindset, when he deviated from the acceptable line.
========= ConradBlackTrial.blogspot.com

And that*s why dogs do what they do to poles and CBC buildings everywhere. = TG

Posted by: TG at April 20, 2007 12:19 PM

Daniel M Ryan at 7:57 above

This is Para 11 in case you didn*t check.
Konrad Black*s wife remembering work at the CBC.

She discloses in the book that, as a result of pressure from the producer of the show and also her boss, she made the results up. She did predict the winner, Pierre Trudeau, but the older Amiel expresses qualms about the fast one that her younger self pulled back then.

Dismissing the possibility that her [B]*little fraudulent poll*[B] (p. 77) changed the results, she nevertheless discloses that she *crowned* the CBC staff’s choice, and notes how easy it was to swim with the left-lib *syndrome* (p. 78,) one more pervasive than a mere conspiracy.

It prevailed in the CBC, and in the Canadian media generally. A then-young Henry Champ, then with CTV’s W5, suffered on account of this mindset, when he deviated from the acceptable line.
========= ConradBlackTrial.blogspot.com

And that*s why dogs do what they do to poles and CBC buildings everywhere. = TG

Posted by: TG at April 20, 2007 12:21 PM

Daniel M Ryan at 7:57 above

This is Para 11 in case you didn*t check.
Konrad Black*s wife remembering work at the CBC.

She discloses in the book that, as a result of pressure from the producer of the show and also her boss, she made the results up. She did predict the winner, Pierre Trudeau, but the older Amiel expresses qualms about the fast one that her younger self pulled back then.

Dismissing the possibility that her [B]*little fraudulent poll*[B] (p. 77) changed the results, she nevertheless discloses that she *crowned* the CBC staff’s choice, and notes how easy it was to swim with the left-lib *syndrome* (p. 78,) one more pervasive than a mere conspiracy.

It prevailed in the CBC, and in the Canadian media generally. A then-young Henry Champ, then with CTV’s W5, suffered on account of this mindset, when he deviated from the acceptable line.
========= ConradBlackTrial.blogspot.com

And that*s why dogs do what they do to poles and CBC buildings everywhere. = TG

Posted by: TG at April 20, 2007 12:21 PM

The CP photographer is named Frank Gunn (he's done alot of hockey games, too!); if there's any question about how he took the photo re. lenses etc., contact him and ask.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 20, 2007 12:23 PM

Daniel M Ryan at 7:57 above

This is Para 11 in case you didn*t check.
Konrad Black*s wife remembering work at the CBC.

She discloses in the book that, as a result of pressure from the producer of the show and also her boss, she made the results up. She did predict the winner, Pierre Trudeau, but the older Amiel expresses qualms about the fast one that her younger self pulled back then.

Dismissing the possibility that her [B]*little fraudulent poll*[B] (p. 77) changed the results, she nevertheless discloses that she *crowned* the CBC staff’s choice, and notes how easy it was to swim with the left-lib *syndrome* (p. 78,) one more pervasive than a mere conspiracy.

It prevailed in the CBC, and in the Canadian media generally. A then-young Henry Champ, then with CTV’s W5, suffered on account of this mindset, when he deviated from the acceptable line.
========= ConradBlackTrial.blogspot.com

And that*s why dogs do what they do to poles and CBC buildings everywhere. = TG

Posted by: TG at April 20, 2007 12:24 PM

The CP photographer is named Frank Gunn (he's done alot of hockey games, too!); if there's any question about how he took the photo re. lenses etc., contact him and ask.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 20, 2007 12:25 PM

Someone commented earlier on how amazing Kate is in her ability to point out the folly of our beloved media "reporting".

While mot taking anything at all away from Kate's commendable qualities, I would suggest her task is quite easy.

Consider;
1) The media tells blatant lies. Hence it is easy to call them on their "presentation".

2) In today's era of computers and the Internet, it is easy to compile and keep records on the media's bias and spin.

3) More and more people are sourcing their news from the web sites and so the media no longer has a monopoly on how stories are presented.

4) The # of commenters out in the real world is growing exponentially and therefore Kate's sources of uncorrupted information is also growing exponentially.

5) There is a mountain of media misinformation out there. Kate will not be unemployed anytime soon.

Kate saw all of the above a long time ago and acted on it. That is the real genius.

'Kate the Genie' is out of the bottle.

Posted by: ron in kelowna at April 20, 2007 12:36 PM

from jeff: "god knows we sent enough money west to help develop the oil sands in the first place." What do you mean by "we"?

Money was sent west to help develop the oil industry in Alberta, but not Canadian money....it largely came from US banks. As for the tar sands....the amount of money that that is sent to the east as a result of its' development is incredible, and I cannot think of a single eastern-based company that participates in the financial development of the tar sands.

Please jeff, name some so that I can be enlightened. I really don't expect a reply though, as you may hurt yourself while you scratch your head.

Posted by: John at April 20, 2007 12:38 PM

Wow! I got this error message..

Movable Type .. Page 101060 failed to rebuild or something.. [from memory]

Looks like it tried and succeeded several times. = TG

Posted by: TG at April 20, 2007 12:39 PM

Jeff,

Americans sent the money west to build the oilsands. Toronto and Ottawa are on the receiving end.

Da proff is da proof and when you hav da proof you know it is da proof.

(Apologize for the lengthy paste)

Alberta is already spreading the wealth
Any discussion of ‘redistributing’ the province’s petrodollars to correct fiscal imbalances is misguided
PRESTON MANNING AND FRED KERR
As the premiers and the federal government discuss fiscal imbalances and equalization, one hears increasing references to Alberta’s burgeoning petroleum revenues and suggestions that Ottawa should somehow involve itself in “redistributing” such revenues more equitably across the country.
In 1980 — the last time the federal government acted on such advice after the OPEC-engineered oil price hike — the results were politically and economically disastrous. Confiscatory taxes imposed on the industry in Canada almost killed the goose that was laying the golden egg. Oil-patch investment and jobs fled the country. Western alienation came within a hair of being transformed into full-blown western separatism.
And the Liberal government responsible for the so-called national energy program destroyed its electoral prospects in much of the West for more than two decades.
The Harper government obviously has no intention of repeating such mistakes. And there would be less misguided pressure for it to do so, if the public were to better understand the following facts:
1. Albertans’ per capita contribution to equalization is by far the highest in the country.
The federal government collects consumption, income and other taxes from individuals and corporations across Canada. Naturally, it collects more revenue in provinces whose economies are vigorous than it does in provinces whose economies are weak. Ottawa then redistributes significant revenues to the governments of less affluent provinces through the equalization program, to enable them to provide social services to their people roughly equivalent to those available in the rest of the country.
Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty cites the $23-billion net federal fiscal contribution made by the people of Ontario, and argues that this is excessive. But, for 40 years (even when oil prices have been low), Albertans’ net federal fiscal contribution per person per year has been more than triple that of Ontarians.
Any suggestion that Albertans have not been contributing their fair share to equalization and should be contributing an even higher percentage is itself unfair.
2. The benefits of the current boom in the petroleum sector are already distributed far more broadly than most people think.
In 2006, $108-billion in revenue will flow into the petroleum sector in Canada as a result of record high oil prices.
The portion of this revenue that is most visible to the public — because it is most frequently mentioned by the media and the politicians — is the portion that flows into the coffers of the Alberta government. In 2006, this will amount to almost $20-billion — about $14-billion in royalties, $3-billion in taxes, and $3-billion from the sale of drilling rights.
But what about the other $88-billion? The Canadian petroleum industry will send about $5-billion to Ottawa in federal income taxes in 2006 and another $2-billion to $3-billion to the treasuries of other hydrocarbon-producing provinces such as British Columbia, Saskatchewan, Nova Scotia and Newfoundland. It will spend $11-billion on debt and equity financing charges, and another $23-billion on administrative and operating expenses.
And then there is the big ticket item — capital expenditures.
Conventional oil and gas wells start declining from the moment they come on stream. Typically, a new gas well’s production declines around 30 per cent in the first year. As a result, the industry must drill an ever-increasing number of wells just to keep production flat, let alone grow it. Oil-sands plants are even more capital intensive. This means that much of the capital generated by conventional and oil-sands production must be reinvested in further development. Thus, in 2006, the industry will commit more than $40-billion to capital expenditures — everything from rigs and mining equipment to chemicals and pipes — much of which is made outside Alberta, notably in Ontario.
Finally, there is the stream of dividends and distributions paid to investors in Canada’s petroleum sector — about $6-billion in 2006. The ownership of today’s industry is structured quite differently than it was in the 1980s — with many energy producers having organized themselves into royalty and income trusts. The majority of these are owned by individuals, mutual funds, and pension funds based in Central Canada. When the Liberal government mused about rejigging the tax rules for royalty and income trusts, it was no coincidence that the loudest and most immediate protests came not from Calgary but from Toronto.
And then there are the capital gains recently enjoyed by Canadian energy investors, most of whom live outside Alberta. The energy sector, which, during the Nortel glory days of the high-tech boom, represented less than 10 per cent of the TSX index, today represents about 30 per cent. That’s a lot of wealth generation for a large number of Canadians right across the country.
The bottom line? While $20-billion of the $108-billion generated by the petroleum industry in 2006 will end up in the hands of the Alberta government, the remaining $88-billion is much more broadly distributed than most media commentators, politicians and Canadians think.
3. The investment of $100-billion in the oil sands will generate more tax dollars for the federal government than the Alberta government, and almost as many person years of employment outside Alberta as within the province.
A recent study by the Canadian Energy Research Institute highlighted the following facts: Conventional oil production in Canada is declining, underscoring the importance of oil sands as a vital source of North American supplies. In 2004, Alberta’s oil sands were recognized by the International Energy Agency, for the first time, as part of global oil reserves. This established Canada’s reserves as second only to Saudi Arabia’s, justifying Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s assertion that Canada is becoming an energy superpower.
But oil-sands development requires massive capital investment before anyone sees a dime of revenue. Producers need to delineate ore bodies, build processing facilities, and buy trucks and loaders or inject steam to coax the gooey stuff out of the ground.
The need for massive capital investment creates opportunities for investors across Canada and around the world. And all this capital investment creates thousands of jobs, for which Alberta alone cannot hope to supply the labour. Trades people, engineers and labourers are flocking to Fort McMurray from across Canada, including a large contingent from Newfoundland. Most of those workers pay Canadian taxes.
Many send a portion of their oil wages home to Corner Brook, Barrie or Moncton.
The CERI study estimated the impacts of $100-billion invested in oil-sands development over a 20-year period through to 2020.
Even if oil prices were to level off at half their current level, this investment will lead to:
6.6-million person years of employment, 44 per cent of it outside of Alberta. Of the 1.7-million person years of employment generated in Canada outside of Alberta, 1 million would be in Ontario alone.
Federal government tax revenues of $51-billion, making Ottawa (not Alberta) the largest recipient of government revenues generated by oil-sands development.
An interesting future study would be to compare the national distribution of benefits, including tax revenues generated for the federal government, from the development of an oil-sands plant in Alberta versus a hydro-power project in Quebec or a nuclear-power plant in Ontario. And if such a study showed — as it would — that the benefits from the hydro and nuclear projects were much more narrowly distributed than those of the oil-sands project, would the political and business establishments of Ontario and Quebec support federal intervention in the name of equalization to ensure a more equitable distribution? Not likely.
The above facts concerning the current and future distribution of benefits from the development of Alberta’s petroleum resources are not widely known. They are rarely even mentioned, let alone taken into account, in the debate on how to correct fiscal imbalances and reform equalization. It is high time they were.
Preston Manning, a former federal leader of the Official Opposition, is president of the Manning Centre for Building Democracy and a senior fellow of the Fraser Institute. Fred Kerr is a Calgary-based commentator and former institutional stockbroker specializing in the energy sector.
Source; Globe & Mail.


Jeff, don't let the door hit your ass on your way out.

Cheers,
Glenn

Posted by: Glenn at April 20, 2007 12:41 PM

ET: "It is not a news station but a propaganda mouthpiece for the Liberals; its staff are completely of the left perspective. "

That Vimy Ridge extravaganza a week or so ago was certainly propaganda but it was most certainly not "of the left perspective"! Don't worry - your tax dollars are working to impose your ideology.

Again, though, I cannot imagine that anyone would seriously consider the Liberals to be "left"! I suppose if you consider anyone who deviates even slightly from hard libertarianism to be "left", they are "left", but what you have then is a very blunt conceptual instrument for political discussion. It's kind of like trying to cut your fingernails with an axe.

Posted by: exile at April 20, 2007 12:51 PM

Someone commented earlier on how amazing Kate is in her ability to point out the folly of our beloved media "reporting".

While mot taking anything at all away from Kate's commendable qualities, I would suggest her task is quite easy.

Consider;
1) The media tells blatant lies. Hence it is easy to call them on their "presentation".

2) In today's era of computers and the Internet, it is easy to compile and keep records on the media's bias and spin.

3) More and more people are sourcing their news from the web sites and so the media no longer has a monopoly on how stories are presented.

4) The # of commenters out in the real world is growing exponentially and therefore Kate's sources of uncorrupted information is also growing exponentially.

5) There is a mountain of media misinformation out there. Kate will not be unemployed anytime soon.

Kate saw all of the above a long time ago and acted on it. That is the real genius.

'Kate the Genie' is out of the bottle.

Posted by: ron in kelowna at April 20, 2007 12:52 PM

exile,

so you think that remembering the people killed serving our nation is right-wing propaganda then? If so, you should move to North Korea and eat dirt for the few months it takes you to starve.

Jeff,

Are you coming around to the idea that we're over-taxed? Good for your. Progress. It IS time for a tax cut :)

Posted by: Warwick at April 20, 2007 12:54 PM

The Angry (CBC) Reporter comments "I'm puzzled by the extent of sophistry conservatives will use to try to counter what is becoming an increasingly worrysome environment problem."

Apparently you're new here.

If you take the time to search the archives, you'll find that the "sophistry" you refer to includes published opinions and links to published dissent from climate and earth scientists whose credentials put those of activists like David Suzuki and Al Gore to shame.

That the CBC continues to "consult" these faux experts on topics they are not qualified to comment on is nothing short of intentional journalistic malpractice.

Posted by: Kate at April 20, 2007 12:56 PM

Looks like some are missing the point here.

This has nothing to do with Photoshop.

It has everything to do with adjusting everything leftward at the CBC. = TG

Posted by: TG at April 20, 2007 12:56 PM

Angry Reporter,

Please explain how global warming will kill my grandchildren. By almost any measure, warming results in fewer deaths, not more. And you claim it's conservatives having trouble proving theories? If the science behind AGW is so good, then the computer models predicting its effects will be able to tell us some specifics 10 years from now. Given their track record (claims of 'a terrible year for hurricanes', etc), they can't even handle the upcoming weather season. When you get a handle on non-exaggerated claims of what the science shows, conservatives (and all reasonable people) will listen with rapt attention. Our skepticism only continues to exist because there are so many holes in the AGW theory.

Posted by: Shane O. at April 20, 2007 12:56 PM

Speaking of hurricanes, you might search that topic as well. The leading hurricane expert for the IPCC reports resigned in 2001, citing misrepresentation of his research by the panel.

Posted by: Kate at April 20, 2007 1:01 PM

Kate...don't waste your bandwidth on Angry CBC Reporter. She has all the facts,we have only lies and fearmongering. After all, a fruit-fly geneticist knows infinitely more about world climate then say, oh, a climatologist.

Posted by: Justthinkin at April 20, 2007 1:10 PM

Toronto will happily solve it's own problems once the feds give us our money back.

god knows we sent enough money west to help develop the oil sands in the first place.

Not that Toronto - aside from taxes and fees levelled at the municipal level - has any money of its own ("our money!" he wails), ya gotta love Toronto's left - they're all hot for socialism until it starts to hit them in the pocketbook.

Whatever happened to "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need," Toronto socialists? And when am I going to get reimbursed for the Sheppard subway, or the Skydome?

David Miller, by the way, runs a tight fiscal ship. Ha ha ha ....

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at April 20, 2007 1:10 PM

Kate, at least the Angry Reporter didn't ask if you're a Jew, but I'm sure it's a matter of time ...

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at April 20, 2007 1:12 PM

Oppppssss....sorry Kate. That should have read "replying to". My bad

Posted by: Justthinkin at April 20, 2007 1:13 PM

Jeff said, "god knows we sent enough money west to help develop the oil sands in the first place."

Would that be the transfer payments that Alberta receives? Oh wait, Alberta gives tranfer money not receives.

Perhaps you mean the money you pay to heat your house or run your car.

I don't ever recall an announcement in the federal budget that would help prop up the poor Alberta oil companies. Unlike the propping up of such eastern companies like Air Canada and Bombardier.

Trev

Posted by: Trevor at April 20, 2007 1:16 PM

Another thing, that could be STEAM coming from those towers and not smoke. It depends on what the temp was that day.

Posted by: Dwayne "the canoe guy" at April 20, 2007 1:31 PM

Jeff,

Merikan' money built the oil and gas industry out west. I think you have it @ssbackwards:

Alberta is already spreading the wealth
Any discussion of ‘redistributing’ the province’s petrodollars to correct fiscal imbalances is misguided
PRESTON MANNING AND FRED KERR
As the premiers and the federal government discuss fiscal imbalances and equalization, one hears increasing references to Alberta’s burgeoning petroleum revenues and suggestions that Ottawa should somehow involve itself in “redistributing” such revenues more equitably across the country.
In 1980 — the last time the federal government acted on such advice after the OPEC-engineered oil price hike — the results were politically and economically disastrous. Confiscatory taxes imposed on the industry in Canada almost killed the goose that was laying the golden egg. Oil-patch investment and jobs fled the country. Western alienation came within a hair of being transformed into full-blown western separatism.
And the Liberal government responsible for the so-called national energy program destroyed its electoral prospects in much of the West for more than two decades.
The Harper government obviously has no intention of repeating such mistakes. And there would be less misguided pressure for it to do so, if the public were to better understand the following facts:
1. Albertans’ per capita contribution to equalization is by far the highest in the country.
The federal government collects consumption, income and other taxes from individuals and corporations across Canada. Naturally, it collects more revenue in provinces whose economies are vigorous than it does in provinces whose economies are weak. Ottawa then redistributes significant revenues to the governments of less affluent provinces through the equalization program, to enable them to provide social services to their people roughly equivalent to those available in the rest of the country.
Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty cites the $23-billion net federal fiscal contribution made by the people of Ontario, and argues that this is excessive. But, for 40 years (even when oil prices have been low), Albertans’ net federal fiscal contribution per person per year has been more than triple that of Ontarians.
Any suggestion that Albertans have not been contributing their fair share to equalization and should be contributing an even higher percentage is itself unfair.
2. The benefits of the current boom in the petroleum sector are already distributed far more broadly than most people think.
In 2006, $108-billion in revenue will flow into the petroleum sector in Canada as a result of record high oil prices.
The portion of this revenue that is most visible to the public — because it is most frequently mentioned by the media and the politicians — is the portion that flows into the coffers of the Alberta government. In 2006, this will amount to almost $20-billion — about $14-billion in royalties, $3-billion in taxes, and $3-billion from the sale of drilling rights.
But what about the other $88-billion? The Canadian petroleum industry will send about $5-billion to Ottawa in federal income taxes in 2006 and another $2-billion to $3-billion to the treasuries of other hydrocarbon-producing provinces such as British Columbia, Saskatchewan, Nova Scotia and Newfoundland. It will spend $11-billion on debt and equity financing charges, and another $23-billion on administrative and operating expenses.
And then there is the big ticket item — capital expenditures.
Conventional oil and gas wells start declining from the moment they come on stream. Typically, a new gas well’s production declines around 30 per cent in the first year. As a result, the industry must drill an ever-increasing number of wells just to keep production flat, let alone grow it. Oil-sands plants are even more capital intensive. This means that much of the capital generated by conventional and oil-sands production must be reinvested in further development. Thus, in 2006, the industry will commit more than $40-billion to capital expenditures — everything from rigs and mining equipment to chemicals and pipes — much of which is made outside Alberta, notably in Ontario.
Finally, there is the stream of dividends and distributions paid to investors in Canada’s petroleum sector — about $6-billion in 2006. The ownership of today’s industry is structured quite differently than it was in the 1980s — with many energy producers having organized themselves into royalty and income trusts. The majority of these are owned by individuals, mutual funds, and pension funds based in Central Canada. When the Liberal government mused about rejigging the tax rules for royalty and income trusts, it was no coincidence that the loudest and most immediate protests came not from Calgary but from Toronto.
And then there are the capital gains recently enjoyed by Canadian energy investors, most of whom live outside Alberta. The energy sector, which, during the Nortel glory days of the high-tech boom, represented less than 10 per cent of the TSX index, today represents about 30 per cent. That’s a lot of wealth generation for a large number of Canadians right across the country.
The bottom line? While $20-billion of the $108-billion generated by the petroleum industry in 2006 will end up in the hands of the Alberta government, the remaining $88-billion is much more broadly distributed than most media commentators, politicians and Canadians think.
3. The investment of $100-billion in the oil sands will generate more tax dollars for the federal government than the Alberta government, and almost as many person years of employment outside Alberta as within the province.
A recent study by the Canadian Energy Research Institute highlighted the following facts: Conventional oil production in Canada is declining, underscoring the importance of oil sands as a vital source of North American supplies. In 2004, Alberta’s oil sands were recognized by the International Energy Agency, for the first time, as part of global oil reserves. This established Canada’s reserves as second only to Saudi Arabia’s, justifying Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s assertion that Canada is becoming an energy superpower.
But oil-sands development requires massive capital investment before anyone sees a dime of revenue. Producers need to delineate ore bodies, build processing facilities, and buy trucks and loaders or inject steam to coax the gooey stuff out of the ground.
The need for massive capital investment creates opportunities for investors across Canada and around the world. And all this capital investment creates thousands of jobs, for which Alberta alone cannot hope to supply the labour. Trades people, engineers and labourers are flocking to Fort McMurray from across Canada, including a large contingent from Newfoundland. Most of those workers pay Canadian taxes.
Many send a portion of their oil wages home to Corner Brook, Barrie or Moncton.
The CERI study estimated the impacts of $100-billion invested in oil-sands development over a 20-year period through to 2020.
Even if oil prices were to level off at half their current level, this investment will lead to:
6.6-million person years of employment, 44 per cent of it outside of Alberta. Of the 1.7-million person years of employment generated in Canada outside of Alberta, 1 million would be in Ontario alone.
Federal government tax revenues of $51-billion, making Ottawa (not Alberta) the largest recipient of government revenues generated by oil-sands development.
An interesting future study would be to compare the national distribution of benefits, including tax revenues generated for the federal government, from the development of an oil-sands plant in Alberta versus a hydro-power project in Quebec or a nuclear-power plant in Ontario. And if such a study showed — as it would — that the benefits from the hydro and nuclear projects were much more narrowly distributed than those of the oil-sands project, would the political and business establishments of Ontario and Quebec support federal intervention in the name of equalization to ensure a more equitable distribution? Not likely.
The above facts concerning the current and future distribution of benefits from the development of Alberta’s petroleum resources are not widely known. They are rarely even mentioned, let alone taken into account, in the debate on how to correct fiscal imbalances and reform equalization. It is high time they were.
Preston Manning, a former federal leader of the Official Opposition, is president of the Manning Centre for Building Democracy and a senior fellow of the Fraser Institute. Fred Kerr is a Calgary-based commentator and former institutional stockbroker specializing in the energy sector.
Source; Globe & Mail.

Don't let the door hit your @ss on the way out.


Posted by: Glenn at April 20, 2007 1:37 PM

Isn't it ironic that Kyoto does nothing to curb the real pollutants that dirty the Toronto skyline? After all, Kyoto is all about curbing CO2 (i.e. plant food) emissions, not actual pollutants. This is perhaps one of the biggest problems with Kyoto and the "global warming" and/or "climate change" hysteria. Attention is being diverted from real pollution problems.

Posted by: Ben at April 20, 2007 1:41 PM

There is absolutely no point in arguing science with the lefties, they boldly state the science is complete and supports their contention that man-made CO2 destruction is destroying the planet.
They revel in their ignorance.

So what to do? Simple, agree with them! and offer the obvious solution........NUCLEAR energy.

Then watch their heads explode.

As for the CBC, there is no point in drastic action that could become a cause for the sheeple, far better that it dies a death of a thousand cuts.

Posted by: cascadian at April 20, 2007 1:57 PM

Ben,

Global swarming, a diversion from the real problem. *Pollution* Exactly! = TG

Posted by: TG at April 20, 2007 2:13 PM


I'm a living ex-steeple-jack and I've painted stacks like that in Ontario for Ontario Hydro. If you compare the paint jobs at the top of the stacks from the two photos, you can see that they were actually painted in between the taking of the pictures.

So how old were those smokey shots??

I agree with Mississauga Matt, I fish the warm water outflow of that coal plant for carp and I have never seen that much crap coming out of them, ever.
Nor have I seen anywhere near that amount of "smoke" coming out of any Ontario hydro stacks anywhere.
Photoshopped "smoke".

Posted by: richfisher at April 20, 2007 2:27 PM

John,

Re: tar-sands investment. Petro-Canada has a major investment in the Tar-Sands development, and as a crown corporation, some of that money comes from central & eastern Canadian tax-payers. The so-called Western based oil companies also have received significant investment from Canadians across Canada. Capital flows, buddy.

Posted by: Kenneth at April 20, 2007 2:30 PM

Warwick: "exile,

so you think that remembering the people killed serving our nation is right-wing propaganda then? If so, you should move to North Korea and eat dirt for the few months it takes you to starve."


Your kind sentiments aside, that's a non sequitur. During WWI, Canadians died fighting for one (bad) empire against another (bad) empire. This belief is not equivalent to, nor does it imply, any kind of positive beliefs about North Korea.

Posted by: exile at April 20, 2007 3:12 PM

Dear Angry Reporter,

"Global warming will kill your grandchildren." ? Mr. reporter, the trouble with anger is that it is an emotion. Emotions overwhelm the logical thinking process, and your wild statement is evidence that your thinking is seriously comprimised.

Either that or your sniffing glue.

Posted by: geothermal at April 20, 2007 3:13 PM

Why is the TO mayor getting so much flak, who elected him. Blame the population of the city. These are the same voters who vote liberal without thinking. Good for them. As for eastern money developing AB oil or the tar sands. It was the eastern banks and bay street that sent AB, with a social credit govenment, led by Mr Manning, away when they wanted loans to develop the recently discovered oil. No way those elitist bankers in the east could lower themselves to support Alberta. They said it would never amount to anything. Result, go to the US and you see the results. Ont has been jealous ever since and still refuse to accept that AB is the new center of the universe. Missed opportunity, big time. To get even, they keep voting liberal, but that hasn't worked to keep us down.
cbc just announced they will have a discussion with suzuki about his cross country tour and meeting with Mr Baird and the petition.

Posted by: mary T. at April 20, 2007 3:25 PM

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/04/20/suzuki-baird.html

"Calling it a crime against future generations to ignore warnings about global warming, environmentalist David Suzuki was to present a petition to Environment Minister John Baird on Friday….."

"First of all, let's stop listening to the goddamn economists," he said....

Dr. Kooky, let's start with the Stern report.

Posted by: Cal at April 20, 2007 3:34 PM

Exile,

You miss the point of the excersice. You aren't memorializing the empire nor the war. You're giving thanks to people who died in the war. These are the people who defend your freedom. That WWI was perpetrated by a bunch of inbred, callous, sister-shagging monarchs isn't the point.

I agree that WWI (unlike WWII) was an atrocity perpetrated on the people. In some cases, it led to better things (the west,) in others, it led to worse (Russia and the Ottoman Empire.) It did lead to the final curtain call on the power of monarchs and the death of the fuedal system in favour of more representative democracy in Europe. After the WWII the west even got to enjoy it.

But that doesn't change the fact that if you're gonna lose your life for your country, the least you can expect is some respect for it...

Posted by: Warwick at April 20, 2007 3:38 PM

Kyoto bill a 'risky, reckless scheme': Baird
Last Updated: Thursday, April 19, 2007 | 10:59 AM ET

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/04/19/baird-kyoto.html

Where have all the smoke stacks gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the smoke stacks gone?
Short time ago
Where have all the smoke stacks gone?
CBC has picked them every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

Posted by: Cal at April 20, 2007 3:43 PM

By the way, this site is now linked on National Newswatch.
Good for Kate -


exile - if you cannot imagine anyone considering that the Liberals are 'left', then, try reading the MSM opinion-iters, who all talk about the Liberals as a 'left' party. Read how Layton is fighting to differentiate himself as the Liberals move more and more and more - left.

Consider the attributes of a 'left ideology', which is based around a big centralist government making all decisions, a rejection of individual decision-making, a socialist welfare state model, an attitude of social engineering towards the population, cultural relativism, quota politics, identity politics, rejection of private services to the public and so on. That's all socialist, that's all left. That's all Liberal.

Angry Reporter - you are making emotional and sophist statements. Please provide factual evidence that global warming will kill my grandchildren.

The fact that pollution kills is trivial; that's why we have laws regulating the content of foods, the practice of agriculture, the disposal of wastes etc. Chemistry and agriculture are old and wise sciences. What's your point?


Posted by: ET at April 20, 2007 3:44 PM

Those that know me or have met me know a couple of things: what I do and how much I despise the CBC.

That being said, this picture thing means nothing. Troy, earlier up, is absolutley correct in saying that graphics like these, more often than not, are composite images. Big deal.

Some reporter or copy editor, god knows which, went over to the graphics guy and said "Fred, I need an ominous picture of Toronto all warmerized and stuff" and Fred made one. That's about how deep the plot goes. That Fred used some stock image and altered it doesn't mean much.

That the CBC sucks is no surprise. That they should be forced to deal with market forces is something I have written about in the past. This, however, is pretty much meaningless in the grand scheme. This is not the TANG memos, it is not Adnan Hajj, it is not blue helmet guy.

Posted by: Krydor at April 20, 2007 3:54 PM

Whether altering news photos to make a political point is a "big deal" depends on your own views, but this is certainly another small reminder that CBC is in the business of assembling and promoting a particular partisan narrative.

The National in particular continues to (in effect) wage a relentless campaign against those who don't hold Lib/NDP views. Sometimes it's done overtly, more often slyly, but the overarching narrative is that the truly Canadian view is Liberal or left of Liberal.

CBC would be merely quaint if they were a private local cable station, but they're a coast-to-coast campaigning force who Canadians have been forced to pay for, to the tune of billions of dollars over the years.

Highly respected journalist Robert Fulford worked for many years at the CBC. In a National Post column published last September, he gave some valuable insights into the CBC's institutional mindset:

"In their own quiet way, CBC people have become a remarkable cult, the proprietors of a vast reservoir of smugness that they are incapable of recognizing as such. For generations, they have been constructing a body of impregnable, self-regenerating opinion. As employees they are pre-selected and their views are pre-recorded, like most of their programs. A single rule governs all personnel selection: Like hires like. That principle, followed for seven decades, produces seamless intellectual agreement in all corners of the staff. Occasionally a few oddballs somehow slip through the screening process. They are allowed to hold unofficial views, providing they have the good sense not to express them. Otherwise, the CBC encourages everyone to speak up."

"CBC producers glory in what Wordsworth called 'smooth and solemnized complacencies.' They believe in universal one-tier medicare, feminism, the Kyoto accord, employment equity and the United Nations..."

He recounts that after a reader complained to him abou the airing of a flagrantly anti-American remark, he "...had to explain to her the horrible truth": not only would the on-air personality in question "find it natural to say something like that, but just about everyone around him (producer, researcher, writer, fellow commentators, technicians, executive producer) would probably agree with him entirely and would find my reader's protest narrow minded."

He recalls that when he first began broadcasting at the Mother Corp, "...the term 'politically incorrect' didn't exist. But no one at the CBC needed a term. They lived by it without knowing what to call it. As I listened to them I began to realize that they all read the same publication and thought the same thoughts. Many became friends of mine, but I developed an aversion to their eeries uniformity of views."

In another NP column written a year ealier, he wrote: "CBC-watchers have always known that its managers operate on three principles"; number two was "Don't tolerate anyone who stands outside the liberal concensus that governs Canada."

The lingering questions, regardless of one's political views, are: 1) should non-Lib/NDP voting Canadians be taxed to the tune of billions of dollars to support a GTA enclave that relentlessly campaigns against their views? and 2) Would Lib/NDP-voting Canadians allow a single "public broadcaster" to campaign relentlessly for conservative values, and against Lib/NDP values?

Posted by: EBD at April 20, 2007 4:32 PM

The SDA post is now on hotair.com!!

Let's make the cbc.ca pay!

Posted by: jrb at April 20, 2007 4:39 PM

Kenneth:

Hate to break this to you, but Petro-Canada is no longer a crown corporation as it was privatized in the early 90s and is trading on the TSX. And even if it was a crown corporation, it generates profit and is not a tax drain as your ill-informed post would suggest.

And yes there is a lot of PRIVATE Eastern Canadian money being invested in the Western Canadian-based oil companies. Equity investors are making a lot of money investing in energy stocks at this time. What do you think is driving the TSX 300 to it's record heights.

Posted by: John at April 20, 2007 5:12 PM

Actually if any of you hayseeds had ever visited Toronto in August, you'd know that this is pretty much how it looks on a smoggy day. So does Vancouver for that matter.

Good reasoning though...

CBC ads some yellow to photograph depicting Toronto smog.
Therefore there is no such thing as global warming.

Genius.

Posted by: John at April 20, 2007 5:27 PM

"Consider the attributes of a 'left ideology', which is based around a big centralist government making all decisions, a rejection of individual decision-making, a socialist welfare state model, an attitude of social engineering towards the population, cultural relativism, quota politics, identity politics, rejection of private services to the public and so on. That's all socialist, that's all left. That's all Liberal."

The essence of socialism is social ownership of the "means of production". What you're talking about is some kind of mishmash of various aspects of what passes for the American "left" (as characterized by the American right), which is "left" in America only because the American political spectrum is a very, very narrow slice of the right end of the political spectrum.

Posted by: exile at April 20, 2007 5:28 PM

Trent said... "Is it possible to find a list of the names of the alarmists who were screaming about Y2K and the disaster it would bring, and check it against the Kyoto crowd?"

Good idea. Then we can check it against the list of alarmists shrieking that if we try to cut emissions, we'll be in for a financial blow that will make the great depression look like a picnic. For kicks, we could also hold it up next to the list of those who think that Islamofascists are taking over the world. And maybe a list of Quebecers who feel that hijabs are a grave danger to athletes, but I think I digress now.

Posted by: Crabgrass at April 20, 2007 5:28 PM

Krydor said... "Fred, I need an ominous picture of Toronto all warmerized and stuff" and Fred made one. That's about how deep the plot goes."

Bingo.

Posted by: Crabgrass at April 20, 2007 5:37 PM

"Therefore, I think it's fair to ask - who at CBC news made the decision to "dirt enhance" the image that accompanies the item on John Baird's report? And why?"

Ooooh... cue "dah-dah-dah-DAAAAH" conspiracy music. John's right. Visit Toronto in August, and that's pretty much what it looks like. Why was this image doctored? Probably because CBC needed it now and couldn't wait till summer.

You know what other city isn't polluted AT ALL? Los Angeles. The sky is supposed to be grey-brown for weeks on end and sunsets are SUPPOSED to look like that.

Posted by: Tam at April 20, 2007 5:46 PM

"Actually if any of you hayseeds had ever visited Toronto in August"

In all reality...Who the hell would want to visit that sh*thole?

Posted by: multirec at April 20, 2007 6:13 PM

Who would want to visit Toronto in August if that's what it looks like?

There was a time about 20 years ago I recall traveling along a highway that ran through Detroit and I noticed all the disgusting litter strewn along the way. I thought to myself you would never see that filth in Canada. Well I was wrong and as a former (thankfully) resident of Mississauga, and with the opporunity to go back there on business over the past four or five years, I am clearly noticing a significant increase in litter. On my last trip there in February, I was travelling along the 401 near the airport, and thought to myself, how can these people pretend to be alarmed about climate change when they don't even have the decency to find a garbage can in which to dispose of their litter....disgusting.

Posted by: John at April 20, 2007 6:13 PM

Desperate liars .....
However, we still need to change some of our habits, each one of us [including the evil journalists and the rot within the Gore and Suzuki camps].

Posted by: David at April 20, 2007 6:43 PM

exile - what's your point? Why are you bringing in the 'Americans' into the discussion of left and right perspectives? These two sides are found everywhere. Try Europe.
The US Democrats are very much on the left.

No, the left does not have only one attribute, ''social ownership of the means of production' - which is to say, that the GOV'T owns the means of production.

What you are ignoring in this ambiguous empty image, is WHO MAKES THE DECISIONS? It's meaningless to claim that 'the public' owns the means of production. That's irrelevant because what matters is, again, who makes the decisions about this 'means of production'.

And it most certainly is NOT the citizens, ie, your mythical owners. It is an unaccountable clique of authorities. We've seen what happens with unaccountable authority in the Liberal party - a leftist party. It's called corruption.

By the way, it is absolutely impossible for a large industrial society, with a population in the multimillions to operate in the communist socialist manner you promote, - public ownership of the means of production. Collective ownership doesn't work except in SMALL hunting and gathering bands - which actually don't own anything anyway.

But, communal ownership of the means of production doesn't work. Humans have been around for 10,000 odd years - and collective ownership of the means of production doesn't work as soon as the population rises above a few thousand.

As for those who are supporting the CBC's 'right' to doctor an image - you are showing that you support propaganda. The CBC has no right to doctor an image; its duty is to report facts. Not make up images.

I live in Toronto. Right downtown. No, it doesn't look like that at any time.

Do you want to know some cities that ARE polluted? Try China - any medium sized Chinese city. And that's where the Kyoto cultists want us to send our money - to enable China to build 500 more coal-stocked factories a year. The air in China is bad, bad, bad. Oh - and you can't drink the water.

But, back to my point about 'small things'. The Kyoto cultists are ranting about 'big industries' must stop their emissions...a typical anti-industrial socialist rhetoric. I'm saying, how do these cultists feel about all the litter left around? When they have one of their activists meetings, and the city crews have to go in after and clean up all the litter left behind after their rally?

John - you are exactly right. The litter is appalling, it's everywhere, and what is interesting is to see the discrepancy between those all 'hot under the collar' about 'emissions'..and their everyday behaviour, which includes a cavalier attitude to littering.

Posted by: ET at April 20, 2007 6:43 PM

kingstonlad

"alby, u leftard moron
1. we are knuckle draggers, not knuckle walkers"

I disagree, from my vantage point most right-wingers here haven't evolved to knuckle dragging yet.

"2. what was done here is fraud, a lie, an untruth, deceit"

No, it's just a picture, you have to read the words too.

"I do not know about you, but I have raised my children with the lesson that lying is bad, no matter how right you think your cause is"

Well then you had better teach them there is more to a story than just a picture so they know the whole truth.

Posted by: albatros39a at April 20, 2007 6:53 PM

Jose, about the CGI: Don't take Michael Totten's word about all the development in Kurdistan, try Google Earth. It's a year or two behind, but it should satisfy your curiosity.

Posted by: Paul MacPhail at April 20, 2007 6:55 PM

Since the control freak social engineers banned smoking here in Whitehorse no one seems to care about the mess in the streets. Smokers are so angry to be forced outside that they throw butts everywhere but..wait for it..low and behold the sheeple of the 'clean liver' types are throwing garbage everywhere, because they do what they see others do - monkey see, monkey do...
"the best laid plans of bureau crates and 'Mo'[ slems...."
As for CBC: Do they still use those tax funded, indoor, heated smoking rooms? 'Hip Hip o crates' keeps rolling off my tongue.

Posted by: Jema54 at April 20, 2007 7:01 PM

This is old "news", but it is an interesting perspective . . . coming from Russia before they signed on to Kyoto. Too bad they did not pay closer attention to Mr. Illarionov's original concerns. By the way, for those who may have missed it Russia originally did not plan to sign on but was persuaded to do so by Moe Strong on that notorious Northern junket sponsored by the Governor General. (Wonder what tactics ($$$) he used -- or do we think the decision was a good-will gesture on the part of Mr. Putin?) I remember this specifically, because it was one of the "positive results" Adrienne cited in defending this egregious expenditure of taxpayer money. It is all too sad.
Reuters
October 27, 2003

MOSCOW (Reuters) - With solutions costing up to a mind-numbing $18,000,000,000,000,000, it is among the most expensive questions in history -- "How do you stop people from causing dangerous global warming?" Eighteen quadrillion dollars is almost 600 times the 2002 world gross domestic product, estimated by the World Bank at $32 trillion. If you glued 18 quadrillion dollar bills end to end, they would stretch way past Pluto. Luckily, most estimates of the costs of curbing global warming by the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) run to just hundreds of trillions of dollars over 100 years -- a relative pin prick for a growing world economy.

But the costs of cleaning up human emissions of greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide produced by factories and cars, and of shifting toward cleaner energies such as solar or wind power, are starting to give governments nightmares. "The long-term costs could be enormous," said Andrei Illarionov, an adviser to Russian President Vladimir Putin who has backed away from previous promises to quickly ratify the U.N.'s Kyoto Protocol on curbing global warming.

Kyoto, a tiny first step toward reining in human emissions of non-toxic carbon dioxide from fossil fuels blamed for blanketing the planet and driving up temperatures, will collapse without Russia's approval. The United States pulled out in 2001. "Maybe the money would be better spent on promoting economic growth, on ending poverty or on helping developing nations," he told a climate conference in Moscow this month, pointing to the highest IPCC estimate of almost $18 quadrillion by 2100.

Posted by: LindaL at April 20, 2007 7:09 PM

George slaved in/for CBC. He got a job there soon after he arrived from Hungary. Lasted over 20 years. Gawd!

If it blows up buses and subways, it must be a terrorist
by George Jonas
CanWest Publications
July 21, 2005

Talk about coincidence. Just as I started writing this column, someone on CBC-TV called this month's bombing of the London public transport system "a terrorist attack." By the time I shifted my glance from the computer to the television screen, the station cut to a commercial, so I can't identify the offender.

If he was an employee, he took a chance. An internal memo warns that calling terrorist attacks "terrorist attacks" is against CBC policy.

The word should be "attack," pure and simple, or rather neither simple nor pure, but Pharisaically correct. Contemporary disciples of the ancient Pharisee sect -- whose name has become a synonym for self-righteous hypocrisy -- have long infested public broadcasters such as the CBC and the BBC. Now they're proclaiming that reporters should use only "neutral language." Describing terrorist attacks as plain-vanilla "attacks," say the latter-day Pharisees, permits viewers and listeners "to form their own conclusions" about just what kind of attacks they were.

Needless to say, the CBC's reluctance to influence the audience's deliberations doesn't extend to all issues. The same news organizations that won't call terrorists terrorists --- CBC, BBC, Reuters, and others of their ilk -- have no qualms about tainting the audience's opinion in relation to things that seem morally clear to them. The CBC doesn't insist that reporters describe a company's act of dumping toxic waste in "neutral language" and leave the word "pollution" to the viewers. Nor does Mother Corp demand attribution for such as emotionally loaded word as "murder." CBC reporters can say: "A witness described the murder" rather than: "A witness described the accused throttling the victim in an act the police characterized as 'murder.'" They can say: "A man was charged with molesting a child" rather than: "After a child was fondled, a crown attorney called a man a "child molester.'"

But reporters can't call a suicide bomber blowing up a London bus a terrorist attack. Let viewers "make their own judgment" about what to call it. The CBC won't make judgments for them. Perish the thought. We tell people what happened; we don't tell them what to think. We're pure as the driven snow. ...-
http://www.georgejonas.ca/recent_writing.cfm?id=334