Well.....ya nailed the smarmy prick seven ways to sunday.

Awesome and appreciated.

He's here in Calgary on the 23rd. I will not go to the show unless I can win a pair of ducats on QR.

In that case I shall act accordingly. Fingers crossed.

Syncro

Damn, and I just paid my phone bill too.

The Great Global Warming Swindle

This is an hour long show but very interesting as we listen to politicians who want to spend money and disrupt economies in order to reduce man-made CO2 emissions. I am sure it will resonate with most SDA readers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XttV2C6B8pU

Just when one thinks the Gore/Suzuki side show could not get any crazier, ... it does.

Suzuki says the world will end in 10 years !!!?? .... unless, of course, we repent.

I am afraid science will now be held in less esteem than even economics. For at least a generation.

Good on the boo-ers at Concordia. Even in the heart of so-called Kyoto land, they can see through the Kyoto hoax.

The "Goracle" is coming to Saska"Bush"!!

Pack up your children the North and South Saskatchewan are gonna be flooding for sure.

A little late Al, I did my contribution to Saskatchewan on the Nipawin Hydroelectric dam.
GREEN CLEAN POWER with no greenhouse gases.

My father was project manager back in the 80s bringing the fabled Paul Martin 'highwater' to the Prairies.

Who needs tsunamis when a hydroelectric dam will do. Highwater indeed!

Oh HELL, the sky is falling! the sky is falling! the "Goracle" said so.

Brought to you in federal sponsorship program dollars, by Chicken Little and Kentucky Fried Chicken.

Gee if the guy would turn off his pool heater, I wouldn't need my WWI Vimy Ridge special, chlorine gas mask!

I dub thee Knight of the Royal Order of Hypocrites

Oh yea that I walk through the valley of Green House Gases.

I shall fear no one, for thy Vimy Ridge gas mask comforts me.

I shall lay down beside the still waters of Nipawin Hydroelectric for thy rod provides many fishes.

I shall look upon the verdant plain of wheat fields, whose Canadian Wheat Board obstructs my fortune, and say "Barley is upon me".

Your rail cars sit idle, for what does it profit a farmer to plant his grain and lose his soul?

And the Land of Many Nations shall load up their muskets and march along the Sioux, Cheyenne, Assiniboine, Cree, and Blackfoot to drive the scurrilous Yankee dogs from the land.

In the name of God, I shall summon a mighty NORTH WIND from the wilds of Hans Island, that no plane shall land. THE "HUNS" OF CANADA shall give you no quarter and the carbon credit fraudsters shall find no respite in the TRUE NORTH STRONG AND FREE.

AMEN and ALLELUIA

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht BGS, PDP, CFP

Commander in Chief

Frankenstein Battalion

Knecht Rupprecht Division

Hans Corps

1st Saint Nicolaas Army

Army Group “True North”

I had to laugh at Lynwood Barkway who was on the Michael Coren show this week and still held on the the Global Warming Charade and infered the GWSwindle from the UK was a big lie and the debate is over , Barkley defended his stance with the obsurd claim that anyone can gather a group of Climate experts that agree with their view just to produce a documentary as if it was factual.

YES Lynwood......that's exactly the problem , Al Gore has pulled a "Michael Moore" scam by piecing together little bits of Truths in a way that creates the outcome he wants to push on the world.
Plus, when Coren mention about having Dr.Ball and others do a show on Global warming , Lynwood laughed off Mr.Ball as if he was a kook and Climate change denier.

Lynwood professes to be a Journalist , but keep in mind his vast pool of wisdom is printed in the Red-Toronto Star which still reports about a Harper Hidden-Agenda , plus the Star now reports Maher Arar as completely innocent and the USA has no evidence against him.
But how quickly the US Dems turned against Arar this week, check out this article about Pelosie going to Syria to make peace and help dispell the myth of how bad Syria is with all those allegations of torture that people like Arar fabricate.
http://www.islamic-world.net/read.php?ArtID=9877

Bet you she doesn't even mention Maher Arar or the 3 other Canadians that alleged Torture.
Arar got $10 million from canada so why rock the boat now with a 2008 Election coming up.

Economy of [ Hybrid] Scale..

The world*s 3 biggest are getting to one standard for drop in modules. A Japanese idea?

I don*t like all eggs in one basket. Isn*t that what flattened Russia?

Global Hybrid Cooperation
General Motors, DaimlerChrysler and the BMW Group have formed a cooperative effort called the Global Hybrid Cooperation, which is actively developing this next generation hybrid powertrain system.

In an alliance of equals, all three partners are pooling expertise and resources to jointly and efficiently develop hybrid technology. Each company will individually integrate the full hybrid system into the design and manufacturing of vehicles in accordance with their brand specific requirements.

In Troy, Mich., the *GM, DaimlerChrysler and BMW Hybrid Development Center* houses together engineers and specialists from all three companies to develop the complete hybrid system and the individual components —

electric motors, high-performance electronics, wiring, energy management, and hybrid system control units. In addition, the *GM, DaimlerChrysler and BMW Hybrid Development Center* will be responsible for system integration and project management. =========== Chry/Daimler

The plot is to sell engines in hybrids and stave off pure EVs as long as posssible.

You don*t fool me, youse guys. = TG

Hey Al Gore... Welcome to Canada. A small Boeing 737 holds 25,000 litres of fuel , so when you stop at Regina Airport make sure to say "Filler Up" Same thing in Calgary and all your other stops. You see Al , by doing that you prevent any Canadian from using the fuel to drive to work and adding to global warming. Heck of a good idea Al. Thanks for saving Canada . Come often !! Bring Suzuki next time !!

matbe calvert can buy carbon offsets from gore and strong's new company that way he can just keep on keepn on.

Fuhgedabout Rev. Lorne and the Goreacle. It's over, folks. On your knees; repent. It's "type 2" climate change. Fred knows. May Gaia bless you and keep you... ...-

"Fred Pearce, of the New Scientist, has spent the past two years speaking to climate experts who are studying the possibility of "type 2" climate change - abrupt, catastrophic and irreversible." ...-
Welcome to Mediterranean Scotland in 5 years time?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1812323/posts

Many thanks to Lorne Calvert for your kind words of welcome for the global warming expert visiting your province. Tell Mr Gore sorry for the unusually cold weather lately but we will "keep the heat on " for him. Thank you also Mr Calvert , for pointing out in your press release that climate change is a "moral Issue". At one time I didnt think the political left had any morals at all . Guess I was wrong. Sorry !!

me very simple person
me find it very cold outside today
me sees snow on the ground, and it is april in southern Ontario
me remembers other aprils when it was very warm(my first born child - march 31 - so this time of the year is very memorable to me)so warm in fact that I made some furniture in a non-heated worshop
me thinks it is getting colder, not warmer

oh, that's right, dr fruit fly(how much has he wallowed at the public trough?) has changed it to climate change from global warming, after he changed it from global cooling to global warming......please, someone tell me the truth, I am thinking of buying a campground, but will the season get longer or shorter?

Can Tire has ordered a huge stock of tents, candles, etc. from Mao Stlong's Camping Warehouse Inc., China, via Omaha. COD. ...-

Kyoto goals more strict than we've been told, experts say
Much-touted 26%-reduction goal won't get Canada to 5-year average
Tom Spears, The Ottawa Citizen [...]

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=ea042577-bf8c-4ce7-a3a9-5fe33be9d464

Weather forecast: Ottawa

-1°C

Light snow
Ottawa

Why not boycott the whole thing? Let the fat ass speak his blather in an empty room, let his words ring hollow.

Give Ralphy and Steffawn and Suzkookie front row seats. They could put Wayne Potato Head Easter in the back as the cheer leader.

here in snowy grey/bruce Ont, we have snow squall warnings no road closures, Yet!

Our public education system has jumped on the man-made global warming bandwagon by compelling our children to watch Gore's piece of hysterical fiction. But they are not providing equal time and opportunity for students to watch productions such as 'The Great Global Warming Swindle' which refute the Gore and Suzuki theories. Education has become indoctrination and every right thinking citizen should be very concerned.

Presumably he could transmit his message digitally and "hold the carbon".

As we enter our fifth day of snow and below zero temperatures in Alberta, I am hoping that The Failed Presidential Candidate and The Fruit Fly Guy bring some of their "global warming" along with them to their dog and pony show.

At least all that Hot Air might be just the thing to blow this cold out so we can actually have a few months of spring and summer before the next winter sets in.

we rejoin the story thus far.

Dr. Bono Suzuki is sunning his buns on Quadra island after the GlobiHorrorshow Global big bus tour success. Meanwhile Al Gore does his part in the Carbon Cycle by eating a high carb diet suitable for a sumo wrestler.

In other parts of Canada , the second coldest place on earth the people have yet to have been told that with the Cretian promise of 20% reduction in what is now officially called "grin 'ouse gizzes" and a 15% increase in population that everyone in the entire country will have to turn their furnace off.

Hidden on this morning's page 16:
Headline: "Global warming hits Mars, too: study"
"PARIS – Global warming could be heating Mars four times faster than Earth because of a mutually reinforcing interplay of windswept dust and changes in reflected heat from the sun, according a study published yesterday. Scientists have long observed a..." MARLOWE HOOD AGENCE FRANCE- PRESSE
The Gazette | 05 Apr, 2007 | Page: 16"

Yesterday, it was global species extinction all caused by CO2. Today, Mars is warming...

I wonder if anyone will make the connection?

Has Al Gore been to Mars???

"Costs for the venue and advertising will bring the total to around $200K - a "break even" prospect only if all tickets sell."

Don't fret, Kate. Not a problem.

First Little Lorne brings in the Stones, now the Goracle. Hmmm....anyone else notice a little Roman Entertainment Effect? Stock the coliseum with acts to entertain the masses and maybe they won't notice the bullsh*t the corrupt politicians are trying to pull.

If it's a moral issue...

Then the government probably shouldn't be imposing its morals on everyone because they don't believe in that right?

Access govt. grants to study the stupidity of the human mind that could beleive this communist spew from gore and suzuki. Oh I wish that were true, as of April 5 here in Alberta it is cold enough to kill new calves and freeze the ears of older ones, please bring on the warming, or I guess I have to wait 10 years according to suzuki.

Crabgrass said, "Don't fret, Kate. Not a problem."

More proof to the adage that there's a sucker born every minute, and two to take 'em.

From a dedicated southern Ontario ice fisherman, experiencing his longest season, and the best hard solid ice in recent memory, I'd like to say, Thanks Algore.
Keeping yapping.
Still drillin.

So are you turning out to boo Algore when he darkens the Sask climate Kate?

Yukon Gold said: "More proof to the adage that there's a sucker born every minute, and two to take 'em."

I ask, what kind of proof?

"I don't know, a proof is a proof. What kind of a proof, it's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof it's because it's proven." -JC the Shawiniganian and Librano

Makes me laugh every time. :)

"Yesterday, it was global species extinction all caused by CO2. Today, Mars is warming...

I wonder if anyone will make the connection?"

Al Gore, of course, already did. When confronted with the ice caps melting on Mars, he replied that what we are doing on earth is unbalancing the Universe. (National Post)

Based on that statement, I can only think of one thing that's unbalanced.

Arrgh. This so enrages me, but is something that we apparently have had to get used to in Saskatchewan. Our mentally challenged premier, Calvert, is having trouble distinguishing between private and public endorsements (i.e. SaskTel funding this crap, along with SaskEnergy).

Please, NDP, call a vote so we can kick you so far out on your a$$ you won't know what hit you.

Actually Gore is desperately needed in Alaska, where the interior has been 16F below normal temperatures for all of March.

And some other parts are drowning in a sea of snow. Up to 50% over normal.

Ah yes , the Gleissberg solar cycle is real after all.
Next we go for some serious glacier building.

Maybe I should try and get a complimentary copy of "an inconvienient truth" from the Gore-bot. The DVD after you watch it and laugh at it has several uses:

-As a decorative coaster
-As an attachment for a wind chime
-As a target for sighting in your rifle or for skeet shooting
-As a frisbee
-As something to give to your worst enemy
-As something to send back to Gore with a nasty note

Gorebot is the biggest hypocrite this side of parliament and congress.

Williams spends 250,000 on an ad campaign. Calvert spends 125,000 to bring Gore here.
If this is how they spend our transfer money, time to stop it all. If Gore was so sure of his message, why doesn't he do it for free. What does Suzuki get for an appearance. Finally the truth is out, they are just greedy capitalists who have found a way to steal from the people.

we rejoin the story in Saskatchewan where the Rocky Gorror Picture Show has arrived to tell an agricultural economy why warm soil is bad. Needing help and fearing dissidence from the local pipples , the airlifted band of doomists has called in the reunion tour of the 1910Fruitfly Company , with their one an only hit "Yummy Yummy Yummy Ive got Subsidies in my Tummy "with their new lead singer and part time nudist Dr. Bono Suzuki.

Forlorne (Che) Calvert wearing a pink jumpsuit instead of his usual red kicks off the celebration with a modified version now called

"Nous sommes les Champingnon" doing a freddy mercury send up in the Queen City in a simulcast over the new all Sask internet.

Gore is a traveling act, an entertainment.

The sheeple buy a ticket just as they would for a movie.

Buy some Led and compact florescents and an electric car or hybrid and Save Your Money.

The climate will take care of itself.= TG

Al Gore's 20ft. sea level rise,the Sierra Club,(who calls six metres a "best case scenario"), and an IPCC scientist.

http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/story.html?id=685b8d7e-be36-438c-9ac6-4b87277bbe80&k=5

http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/letters/story.html?id=95c1e7d2-846c-4809-a8d8-7f0a1b349f83

I thought politics and religion were to be kept separate! Al, a divinity school dropout appears to be making a pretty good living at being a flim flam man -- scaring school children and pseudointellectuals.

Irwin Daisy:

Where is the quote attributed to Al Gore; "unbalancing the universe"? I would love to read it in full context.

THAT comment is pure entertainment....

Kate: No time to read the comments at the moment, but that's an awesome package you put together in your trademark large live animals style!

At the bottom of the Govey Press release is a party hacks email address, (to give you more information) I took the opportunity to send a message, that was definitely not supporting having that political hypocrite in the province. Maybe a few more can take the time to do likewise.

Ha cal2

Do ya pay GST on that stuff yer smoking?

;-)

It's strange SaskPower didn't sponsor it instead. I'm not completely in favour of the government paying for this by proxy, but it has the nice side effect of being a thumbed nose to the crowd who brays that they are going to go out to their driveway and idle their vehicles to protest pollution awareness campaigns.

Totally agree with maryT.
Thank Goodness I changed my phone company. At least I feel better now that Sask Tel is not getting my money anymore.
Williams and Calvert should be paying for all their foolishness out of THEIR own pockets.
It's all disgusting.

EarlW.. Can't you figure it out. It is the heat off our warming planet radiating through space that is heating Mars. It's that hot here ya know.

Rockyt:
"Gore is desperately needed in Alaska, where the interior has been 16F below normal temperatures for all of March.

And some other parts are drowning in a sea of snow. Up to 50% over normal."

They don't call it climate CHANGE for nothing, do they?

JimC,

When I read it, I almost fell off my chair. You should probably try a search at National Post, or google it.

I posted this here, November 19th, 2006

"Andrew Coyne had a funny op/ed in the post yesterday. Apparently, Al Gore believes that what mankind is doing on earth is unbalancing the universe."

Saskboy said, "They don't call it climate CHANGE for nothing, do they?"

Nope, not for nothing. It's their weasel word to allow them to flog anything off as a sign of the Inconvenient Apocalypse.

Heck, I bet I could find half a dozen experts to claim the reason that Winnipeggers are freezing their dingles off instead of raking their lawns right now is Global Warming.

To believe global warming isn't man made is one thing, but to suggest that it doesn't exist at all buy putting up a five day weather forecast for one city, shows a deep ignorance of the problem we are facing.
It's not surprising that those who make the most money from emitting carbon in this country also happen to be the same ones showing the greatest degree of denial about man made global warming. Let us not forget that Alberta and Saskatchewan will likely pay the biggest price of all Canadian provinces because of an excess of CO2 in the atmosphere.
Just because you don' like Al Gore doesn't mean his message isn't real

Al Gore the unhinged hypotcrit i understand someone has challenged him to a debate over this so called global warming and guess what CHICKEN LITTLE AL probibly will decline

I dont work for big oil, or little oil for that matter, and the goriacle is full of BS.

Just because you love Al Gore doesn't mean his message isn't full of .......

Al should consider wearing a maternity top, he's showing off sitting in one chair.

Albatros39a said, "It's not surprising that those who make the most money from emitting carbon in this country also happen to be the same ones showing the greatest degree of denial about man made global warming."

Really, I wonder why that would be? When someone makes a specious claim that your industry is destroying the planet, most people would naturally roll over and shut their doors, right? After all, the science is proven, and not based on computer models that use hundreds of hand-inputed variables, right?

Besides, how much money has Gore made out of this issue? Both sides, I mean.

Come on, albatros39a, that was the easiest knockdown I've had to hand out in the World Warming War. You can do better.

"It's not surprising that those who make the most money from emitting carbon in this country also happen to be the same ones showing the greatest degree of denial about man made global warming."

How about those who are deceptively pumping it?

'Man-made' GW is already a multi-billion dollar industry destined to grow by billions more every year. What, with his own carbon trading conglomorate, a hit movie, rock concerts and an endless speaking tour at $125k a speech, Al Gore is richer than ever. Scientists are flocking to it for grants, etc. And here come the entrepreneurs.

The amount of money is unprecedented for a brand new industry. Pioneers of the internet would be jealous.

It's the moonbat holy grail.

C'mon Kingstonlad, get real. Here is proof of climate change:

Summer is coming

Climate change is responsible for:

- the seasons
- cold weather
- warm weather
- earthquakes
- backed-up plumbing
- longer seasons
- shorter seasons
- Leafs not making the playoffs
- Harper being a big, fat meanie
- Oilers not making the playoffs
- air pollution
- malaria
- killer bees
- Jean Lafleur returning to Canada
- Dionsky having to go negative (from day one)
- Holland reading confidential personal files
- and anything else anyone can think of

Does that clear it up. Hope it didn't "heat" up the debate.

Gee - when I was a kid "climate change" was called "the weather".

And a bunch of scientists were trying to scare us into believing there was another Ice Age coming (wonder what caused the other 3 or 4 before man was around).

Then weather became "global warming" until about 4 years ago when the inconvenient truth was that the earth was no longer "warming".

So then the one world government eco-Gods changed the slogan from "global warming" to "climate change".

And, in my opinion, it is STILL just the weather.

Always changing-ever changing- part of living on an evolving planet- and mankind has survived thousands of years by adapting to the changing weather patterns- NOT trying feebly to blame everybody but mother nature for personal power and gain.

Reminds me of the Incas who could predict an eclipse so they ruled the people by threatening to "make the sun go away" and then VOILA on schedule the sun would go away and the people bowed down to the despots.

So Gore and Strong and the boys have said "If you don't give us a bunch of money we're going to make the weather change and VOILA - as in centuries past there are storms or droughts or heavy rainfalls so we too will bow to the Eco-despots.

The first time Gore gets up and begins a presentation with:
"I make 20-30 million dollars a year from my Global warming Enterprises"

Is when I might start to listen to what he says. In the meantime he has as much credibility as the guys selling "real" Rolexes in Times Square.

I bet Gore and his bunch are in league with those clowns who try to tell us that smoking causes cancer.

Shrieking moonbats, the lot of them.

"I could find half a dozen experts to claim the reason that Winnipeggers are freezing their dingles off instead of raking their lawns right now is Global Warming.
Posted by: Yukon Gold"

And that's why it's called GLOBAL warming, not WINNIPEG warming. The globe's average temperature rises, and the climate gets more extreme and further from what is ideal for human life. It's not really hard to understand, and the meanings are built right into the two word phrases.

"When someone makes a specious claim that your industry is destroying the planet..."

The world is now taking the problem of man-made global warming seriously, even Australia, who neither signed nor ratified Kyoto. But is seems Albertans, Saskatchewanians and many in the US are confused on whether to stick their fingers firmly in their ears, or cover their eye to hide the facts of global warming from themselves. The reality of it all for Alberta and Saskatchewan is that they have two choices. Wean off that oil-sand teat and get on with something else, or let global warming destroy your provinces economies.

Saskboy: "... The globe's average temperature rises, and the climate gets more extreme and further from what is ideal for human life."

Now that you bring it up ... what is the ideal global temperature for human life? ... how do you know what it is?

Same question about sea levels.

or let global warming destroy your provinces economies.

albatros39a its not global warming destroying our economies its scum like you trying to steal our hard earned money from us and give to china and india, all the while making sure it all slide thru uncles mo's and of course the goricles hands so they can skim off there share.

"So then the one world government eco-Gods changed the slogan from "global warming" to "climate change"."

Wrong!
The term "climate change" was popularized by Frank Luntz, who advised the Bush administration that they should use that term rather than "global warming," because “climate change” sounded less scary and less urgent.

http://www.desmogblog.com/node/170

“The phrase "global warming" should be abandoned in favour of "climate change", Mr Luntz says, and the party should describe its policies as "conservationist" instead of "environmentalist", because "most people" think environmentalists are "extremists" who indulge in "some pretty bizarre behaviour... that turns off many voters". “
http://www.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/story/0,12374,906979,00.html

"because "most people" think environmentalists are "extremists" who indulge in "some pretty bizarre behaviour... that turns off many voters". “"

Hmmmm...

"albatros39a its not global warming destroying our economies its scum like you"

Get those fingers firmly in your ears.
By the time your type recognises there is a problem, agriculture will be long forgotten in the Prairie Provinces and there will not be enough water to supply the needs of Calgary and Edmonton's present populations.

"Now that you bring it up ... what is the ideal global temperature for human life? ... how do you know what it is?
Same question about sea levels."
The idea temperature is the one where we can grow enough food to sustain the population we have. Unfortunately we are now too warm for that and are overstressing the water supplies that we have.
Sea levels? I guess you don’t live on a coast, do you?

"The world is now taking the problem of man-made global warming seriously".

Seeing as there is no such thing as man-made global warming, that is quite a worrying statement. Watch the Great Global Warming Swindle and please learn some facts.

The Earth has warmed and cooled in the past without any input from humans or industrialization. Carbon dioxide does not cause global warming - it is an effect of global warming, released by the oceans as they gradually warm.

The best models for understanding the current warming trends involve sun activity.

It is irresponsible of you (like Al Gore) to spread these lies - are you also making money from the Great Swindle?

Kate: "$25 if you can catch him near a limo"

By the sound of most of the comments here, he should be forgiven for riding in whatever vehicle affords him the most protection.

during the meanwhile.

The carped crusader , Sir Al of Gore and his faithful champagnion the nude wonder Bono Suzuki have made their way down to Regina where in secret meetings with forLorne Calvert in his now shiney red tights has declared Saskatchewan not only a money sink but a carbon sink as well. Lip syncing to an old Borat Dion CD. forLorne raps out a song about absorbing CO2 into the wheat fields of Saskatchewan and sequestering it by only selling through the "canadien whit bort" thereby keeping it in the fields. the "whit bort" now run out of Quebec by a series of adscam survivors doing community service through the Homolka and Khadr society has not sold a single bushel of "whit" as it is now required to offset "grin 'ouse gizzes"

...he should be forgiven for riding in whatever vehicle affords him the most protection

Protection from what? UV rays?

albatros39a, there are a few Saskatchewanians and Albertans too who realize there are changes coming and we're doing something to prepare. Some even post in the comments here when we feel like beating our heads against the deniers' wall.

--
Lew, watch The Denial Machine, it's also online and explains why you're thinking the way you are.

--
"Now that you bring it up ... what is the ideal global temperature for human life? ... how do you know what it is?
Same question about sea levels."
The idea temperature is the one where we can grow enough food to sustain the population we have. Unfortunately we are now too warm for that and are overstressing the water supplies that we have.
Sea levels? I guess you don’t live on a coast, do you?
Posted by: albatros39a
ditto by Saskboy
Ural, you don't like the climate we have now?

No, Saskboy, the climate we have now is no damn good.

Let's experiment!

It's not that I don't think that the earth is not warming, it's this arrogant pric(k) telling us that we should curtail our lifestyles all the while he is not willing to do the same because he can afford these so-called carbon credits[(indulgences)look it up ].

Now is the time for someone to nail some sort of theses to the church door.

It also chaps my skivies that if climate change is happening that these bozos think that they have the power to change it .

Go to friendsofscience.org and get a lesson.
Mind you ,all that advice is predicated on your having a open mind.

Is it a coincidence that the first April 22 Earth Day was organised by somebody named Gaylord? I think not!

The belivers in gore/suzuki are in for a big, painful shock to their wallets. Anyone stupid enough to believe all the costs of kyoto implementation will not be passed on to the consumer is kneeling in front of gore/suzuki and muttering some mantra. Should they not be allowed to pass on their costs, they will close their doors and move to some country with common sense.

"By the sound of most of the comments here, he should be forgiven for riding in whatever vehicle affords him the most protection."

My god, you righties sure are a threatening bunch.
http://www.shns.com/shns/g_index2.cfm?action=detail&pk=MURDOCK-04-05-07

It was a dark and stormy night.

actually it was noon in July when the Gorecle of Doom rolled into town. The climate changed that day.

Snow began to accumulate, soon Saskatchewan and the entire mid west were covered in snow. years later old sages would refer to the early 2000s as the years of plenty,thereafter were called the Suzuki Tsunami of Snow.

People would listen to a herd of monkeys if they told them what they wanted to hear. friendsofscience.org is funded by oil companies, and they have not presented their arguments to scientists, a critical step in ensuring the legitimacy of their research. Never mind what the peer-reviewing scientists on the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change say. friendsofscience.org seems to confuse science and politics, and they seem to be succeeding in convincing people that their is significant debate about global warming within the scientific community. (which there isn't, for all you geniuses out there)

"People would listen to a herd of monkeys if they told them what they wanted to hear"

What did the herd of monkeys tell you snooty?

Saskboy: "Ural, you don't like the climate we have now?"

Sure beats the Little Ice Age doesn't it? ... or the big one 16,000 Years ago.

Some of the Ice Ages:

http://www.museum.state.il.us/exhibits/ice_ages/specmap_graph.html

Think man knows what he is doing when he tackles nature? Read "Playing God in Yellowstone: The Destruction of America's First National Park" By Alston Chase

BTW: I do have a glimpse of the Strait of Georgia from my backyard ... is that coastal enough?

"Seeing as there is no such thing as man-made global warming, that is quite a worrying statement. Watch the Great Global Warming Swindle and please learn some facts."

You are basing your entire argument on a TV show? As a earth science major I am learning the fact.

"The Earth has warmed and cooled in the past without any input from humans or industrialization. Carbon dioxide does not cause global warming - it is an effect of global warming, released by the oceans as they gradually warm."

If you’d get your information from sources other than the television you would realize it's far more complicated than that.

"The best models for understanding the current warming trends involve sun activity."

Ok good, is solar output presently nothing extraordinary but they are incorporated into climate models..

"It is irresponsible of you (like Al Gore) to spread these lies - are you also making money from the Great Swindle?"

How can spreading a warning of what could be the greatest challenge to mankind be irresponsible?
What is irresponsible is ignoring the warnings. You don't have to like Al Gore (and personally I don't), but somebody has to deliver it. No I don't make money from global warming, I'm just trying to ensure my children have a future on this planet.

The herd of menkeys told me that someone, somewhere should present to me just one peer-reviewed paper in a major scientific journal that refutes the science of global warming

"The herd of menkeys told me that someone, somewhere should present to me just one peer-reviewed paper in a major scientific journal that refutes the science of global warming"

Well you kmow what they say about herds of monkeys, people will listen to them if they say what they want to hear.

major scientific journal?

How do you think the major scientific journals are funded?

What a .............. (Kate has mentioned being gentler to the trolls)

Oh and I can see the ships at anchor in english bay.

Saskboy

"albatros39a, there are a few Saskatchewanians and Albertans too who realize there are changes coming and we're doing something to prepare. Some even post in the comments here when we feel like beating our heads against the deniers' wall."

I know I shouldn't lump all Saskatchewanians and Albertans all into one pile, but it seems that's where all the denial comes from. Keep up the good work.

My humble apologies if I happen to offend any Albertans or Saskatchewanians who actually give a rat’s rectum about the environmental health of this planet.

The region in Sask where I am from has had the wettest two years on record along with the coldest spring in 25 years. Shrill doom and gloomers like Albatross who believe in the church of globule warning scientism use it as way to apppear superior to us heathans that do not beleeeeeve in Jeeeesssusss I mean.......al gore.
The science is flawed and self righteous knobs like Albatross and Al gore will fade into histories garbage bin just like all the others that claimed the world is coming to an end.
The rest us care about the environment but not in a way that is grandstanding, loudmouth and selfrighteous like the gore's and Suzuki's of the world.

Canadians conserve while Gore vents.

Conservation reduces power demand: Study

Utilities say programs save enough electricity to take 34,000 homes off grid.

by Tyler Hamilton, Toronto Star, April 4, 2007

Six of Ontario's largest electric utilities say conservation programs saved enough power last year to take nearly 34,000 homes off the grid.

The utilities – Toronto Hydro, Hydro Ottawa, Horizon Utilities, Veridian Connections, PowerStream and Enersource Hydro Mississauga – represent 1.7 million customers in southern and eastern Ontario.

According to a conservation progress report released yesterday, the utilities collectively reduced power consumption by 302.5 million kilowatt-hours in 2006, a 274 per cent increase over savings achieved in 2005.

Over the past two years, the group has invested $62 million in conservation and demand-management programs, including the "Fridge & Freezer Bounty" developed by Hydro Ottawa and Toronto Hydro's "Summer Challenge" rebate program and "Peaksaver" air-conditioner return program for residential and business customers.

Last year saw more than 8,000 old fridges and freezers unplugged, 12,671 energy-hogging air conditioners retired, and nearly 79,000 incandescent Christmas light strings replaced with energy-efficient LED lights.

Customers of the big-six utilities also obtained about 1.5 million compact fluorescent light bulbs through various coupon and promotion programs.

= TG

"How do you think the major scientific journals are funded?"
have you ever tried to subscribe to one? they can cost thousands of dollars a year, and this is not including the price of site licences. If you can find a free-access journal article that disputes the science of global warming that would be great too. It is astounding the number of people who have never set foot inside a university lab or stuck their noses into a scientific journal, yet declare themselves knowledgable enough to debunk global warming.

snootpanzer

I'm one of those whom have never bin in a UNIvercity,and I can sure as hell tel you that there ain't no one who can "prove" or disprove squat as fas as "gorball warming is concerned.

There ain't a program written nor a put'r fast enough to run it,to accomodate all the variables that effect the "weather"

so's you see it's simple math, just too damn complex, thusly those whom claim otherwise are just sh#tin ya

"Big Al's fee is a cool $125K"

I'm warming up to the idea of global warming. I could see myself scooting all over the globe warning people to cut back on travel.

Of course, I would always turn the lights out upon leaving my swank hotel room.

Is there a speaker's bureau?

In trying to make sense of what some of the bloggers have written I've come to a few conclusions. 1) There are those who believe that the planet is indeed warming but the effect is natural. As evidence, they reference melting ice caps Mars. Solar system warming advocates I guess. 2) There are those who don't believe the planet is warming because of the weather today, or this week etc. 3) A vast majority speak with malice aforethought, showing little respect for anyone with an opposing view, snidely eschewing comtempt, replete with self congradulations and bravado. Where's human respect? It's disintegrating. 4) Someone needs to tell y'all that being an asshole doesn't make you funny. It makes you an asshole.

Too funny....

The the Great Global Warming Swindle is just that... complete bull... and I build renewable energy facilities for a living (and make good money at it I might add).

I even get (not that I pay for it) an "offset" certificate once a year to bring my home carbon foot print to zero. However I do wish they would change the paper they use for the certificate as it's tough to wipe my a$$ with it. I do sometimes forget to keep my thermostat up and my 4x4 running a little longer to compensate.

The hypocracy is not lost on me but it "warms" my heart to know I'm making money from lemmings such as Saskboy and Albatros. Something about a fools and money... can't remember the whole thing....

My appologies to the rest of you.

It's clearing up right now. Damn.
Not that spring is here yet. Damn.
I hope the Goricle has a warm jacket, and boots with good grip.

It seems like his trip to Concordia was poorly advised, at any rate...
http://no-libs.com/?p=1588

I'm curious,

What if Gore is half right. What if, in 10 or 15 years, things really begin to heat up and dry...a lot. Because not enough was done now. And half of what Gore and Suzuki and all says comes to pass.

What are you guys going to say then? What will your kids say?

Al Gourge. It' all about money. Also i"m sooo''w good. I also love my self.

Bjorn Lomborg has challenged Gore to a debate. Gore weasels out.

Tim Ball has challenged Suzuki too. Dave weasels out.

Patrick Moore will debate with anyone from the chicken-little crowd. They run ( in jets) around in circles.

The Jimmy Jones of the world would not debate anyone either. They only preached to the converted, like Fat Al will do in Regina.

Maybe some Sask farmers will attend and ask Al some questions. Call Gore's bluff. Demand answers. Corner Al. Sit on Al till he says uncle. Choke him till he quits fear-mongering our kids. Says pretty-please.

Sask types have always been known for their 'salt-of-the-earthness' and 'let-the truth-be-know' types. Wouldn't it be nice if Big-Ass-Al, the yank, meet his Waterloo in good old Sask. It's time.

"Gore and Suzuki half right" ???

Not a snowballs chance in hell !!

Not even one in a billion.

And what if the earth cools, like the X-Spirts predicted in the 1970s ?? And the world started to freeze up !!?? Again !! Like it did only 15000 years ago. Ice a friggin kilometer thick over most of Canada.

Would our kids then say "why-in-the-hell-did-ya-guys-cool-us-off-even-more !!??

Georgine: "What are you guys going to say then? What will your kids say?"

Precautionary principle ... idiot's last stand.

"Let us not forget that Alberta and Saskatchewan will likely pay the biggest price of all Canadian provinces because of an excess of CO2 in the atmosphere."
HUH????? Never heard of weather patterns and how it gets distributed all over the globe?

""Seeing as there is no such thing as man-made global warming, that is quite a worrying statement. Watch the Great Global Warming Swindle and please learn some facts."

You are basing your entire argument on a TV show? As a earth science major I am learning the fact."

And the Goresky's power-point thing is any better? And please give some examples of your "fact", not just strawman examples.

"How can spreading a warning of what could be the greatest challenge to mankind be irresponsible?
What is irresponsible is ignoring the warnings." Fortunately Albie29, we Neocons are NOT ignoring the warnings about leftard syndrome and are working diligently to eradicate it.

Now get out of your mommie's basement and protest something worthwhile, like the drain on society leftard syndrome causes!!

"Bjorn Lomborg has challenged Gore to a debate. Gore weasels out.

Tim Ball has challenged Suzuki too. Dave weasels out."

Maybe because neither Ball nor Lomborg have any credibility as scientists. Gore and Suzuki don't need to lower themselves to debate those two idiots.

If Ball had any credibility as a climatologist, he would publish to back up his claims to against man made global warming. So far he hasn’t bothered.

Albatros39. Maybe we are warming the planet. Even if we are, running around and scaring the s**t out of kids, with exaggerated claims (20' rise in sea level-Gore), aren't going to solve a thing.

We can stop using carbon fuels if we are willing to commit to a program like NASA used to put two men on moon. You must put your best minds and effort into this.

We cannot and will not if we are harpooned by the UN bureaucratic fantasy of Kyoto. The First World are the only ones who will develop this new technology.

The Third World wants the cheapest and most effective power (and more "power" to them). They will get power through coal and oil, until something better comes along.

Carbon taxes, offsets, credits are totally unnecessary if we develop new clean energy technology and share it with developing world. That way we can avoid environmental catastrophe in China and Asia, something which Kyoto will do nothing to prevent. And guess what, we reduce CO2 too!!! The human portion, that is.

We have the macro technology now; yes, it is nuclear and the enviro movement will have to accept this. They should know that it is safe, clean, plus waste is not issue it once was (in fact Candu reactor uses spent fuel rods).

Then, we have to develop the micro technology to replace oil and coal. We don't know what it is yet; on the other hand, the scientists at NASA had no idea how to put a man on the moon in 1963.

Leaving thus stuff in the hands of wackos like Gore and the Strong bureaukleptocracy in the UN is environmental and economic suicide.

Kyoto is not the way.

Credible ?? Gore says sea will rise 26 feet. Even the wakos at the UN only claim one foot in the next 100 years. That's credibility ??

Suzuki says Cuban farmers have it all over Canadian farmers. That's credibilty ??

In Montreal Suzuki said the world may end in 10 years. That's credibility ??

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Tim Ball studied the hundreds of years worth of The Hudson Bay Company's climate records. THAT is KNOWLEDGE AND CREDIBILITY.

Patrick Moore helped in lifting the stupid DDT ban. A ban that allowed Malaria to kill millions. THAT is CREDIBILITY.

Bjorn Lomborg calls for more money to be spent on safe drinking water projects and better health care for the Third World. Less on fighting a phantom like AGW with it's scamy carbon credits scheme. Now THAT is credibility.

Just thought of a new catagory of troll for Albie and Saskboy....
I present... the attack troll (trollus idiotus attackus) generally presents a gratuitous personal attack, preferring to slam the author(s) of the opinion as a way to carry an argument. This tactic, of course, exposes the weakness of the attack troll's position

Gore is not an expert on "Global Warming" or "Climate Change" last time I checked he was a politician not scientist.

If he really cared about his cause you would think he would waive the appearance fees. There really is no difference between Al Gore, Benny Hinn, or so many other charlatan preachers.

There is no way this will break even. Even though it will have the appearance of being sold out. The NDP will call on the crowns, the unions and whichever other group to make sure that this event will sell out.

Maybe this gross use of taxpayer dollars will get Murdoch Carriere out of the news.

Justthinkin said:
"HUH????? Never heard of weather patterns and how it gets distributed all over the globe?"

Ok are you ready? Try and keep up.

In simplistic terms, the earth’s atmospheric circulation causes dry air to descend from the upper atmosphere at the mid latitudes causing a high-pressure region around the globe commonly known as the horse latitudes. This is the weather pattern that causes the dry region around the planet at the mid latitudes and creates the Mojave Sahara and Arabian deserts. In Eastern North America during the summer, this dry descending air picks up moisture off the Gulf of Mexico and pushes it north into Manitoba and Ontario. This is the cause of the hot humid air the Eastern Canada suffers from in the summer. The western prairies usually isn’t in the line of weather from the gulf, but receives its weather from both dry continental air from Mexico and less dry air from the west off of the pacific.
As the global temperature rises, the global circulation will intensify thereby increasing the high-pressure areas at Horse Latitudes. This higher pressure will push more moist air into eastern Canada, but will also push the dry continental air that sits to the west of the “dry line” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_line up from Mexico into Saskatchewan and Alberta. The end effect will be severely reduced rainfall in the western prairies. When we consider the glaciers that supply water for the west today will be gone, one has to wonder where Alberta and Saskatchewan will get their water without rainfall?
With increased warm moist air being pushed north, the area known as Tornado Alley in the US will be dragged north into Manitoba and Ontario.
It seems few people in Canada is going to get off easy. Maybe some in BC that aren’t near the rising water.
And that is why the economies of Alberta and Saskatchewan will be ruined went they are turned into a dust bowl.

Interesting.

Alby sticks out his/her lip and claims that Lomborg and Ball have no credibility as scientists.

Lomborg is a Ph.D in poli sci, and then was head of the Danish Environmental Assessment Institute.

Ball is a Ph.D in climatology, taught climatology and studied historical climatology extensively.

David Suzuki is a Ph.D in genetics. He was also on the CBC for a long time, making videos that I was forced to watch when my science teachers got too tired to bother.

Al Gore has a bachelors of arts degree, took religious studies, and got a law degree.

Yet somehow, Alby claims that Suzuki and Gore have more credibility as scientists than the previous two! Could it be that's simply because the latter two agree with Alby's point of view? Naw.

"Tim Ball studied the hundreds of years worth of The Hudson Bay Company's climate records. THAT is KNOWLEDGE AND CREDIBILITY."

The only thing written by Ball on Hudson's Bay is a book he co-authored by the name "Eighteenth-century naturalists of Hudson Bay" that has no connection to climate.
ISBN: 0773522859
There are no other references to Tim Ball in any recognised scientific journal. He has not published anything regarding climate. In short, he's a quack.

When comparing computers and the 'peer-reviewer process', there are simiLIAR traits, if the reviewer is from the wako crowd.

Junk in > [computer] > Junk out.

Junk in > [wako-peer-reviewer] > Junk out.

What if Gore is half right.
And more than half wrong...
What if, in 10 or 15 years, things really begin to heat up and dry...a lot. Because not enough was done now.
Not enough of what done? Productivity and development restricted???
And half of what Gore and Suzuki and all says comes to pass.
Your giving way too much credit to broken clocks...
What are you guys going to say then? What will your kids say?
Leftist are idiots. Vote Conservative. Put on a jacket, it's cold out...

"Leftist are idiots."
Yes! In fact, let's shoot em all
I'm serious

Al Gore's son is fat:
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/black-sheep/al-gore-iii/

...You are basing your entire argument on a TV show? As a earth science major I am learning the fact...a quote from Alby.

I, for one, think you should continue your studies -- and open your mind while you're at it. As for the comment regarding the Great Global Warming Swindle, well why not? You seem to base all of your statements on that most famous of scientists, Al Gore and his work.

Next, I think you need to READ the IPCC/UN report and some of the 'scientific fact' contained within. While you're at that, also dig up some of the work from the contributors to that report...so much of it is politically based, non-scientific drivel.

One last thing; I studied Geology in University and even worked for the dreaded Big Oil here in the States; I've since come to my senses. But since you're an 'Earth Science' (whatever that is) major, I'd suggest you do a little more reading in the field of Geology and its related subjects...you may find it enlightening.

C'mon Billygoat. You can't attack the reputation of IPCC "scientists" because they are really nice and trying to save the planet. Anyone against them is a bad person, just like Steve Harper, that big fat meanie. It's the neoconservatives' fault.

Once more, all together:

We have no idea how much (if at all) any change will happen and anyone who says they know for sure is lying, or at the very least misinformed. About sea levels. About global temperatures. About the future location of the dryline. About tornado alley.

I won't go into it because it's a long and boring explanation, and I've put this forward before. Essentially the computer models on which the climate forecasts are based are flawed, by necessity. Garbage in, garbage out, assumptions, approximations, the inability to explicitly solve the equations and the artificial dampening of wave effects all contribute to us not being able to say for sure what's going on.

Maybe it's warming this much or that much. Maybe it's less, and maybe it's more. Maybe we humans are causing it, and maybe we're not. The point is, it's uncertain.

(Sorry to post this again, Kate, but I want the world to know that climate models are imperfect and thus any pronouncements about their results are imperfect, despite what the alarmists say.)

All I **DO** know is that paying billions of $ to 3rd world countries so they can pollute instead of us is the height of insanity--it's guilt money, quite frankly.

Shamrock,

Oh no, you're not going to get away with (It's the neoconservatives' fault.) that; everyone knows it's all George Bush's fault! ;)

just a thought.

If Al Gore dies of a coronary how will we dispose of the body? cremation will cause a measurable spike in CO2 emmissions,can we seal him in a box ?or can we trade him for Moe Strongs carbon footprint in a steel cage.

...finally global warming has arrived in Calgary!

It warmed up one degree today!

"You are basing your entire argument on a TV show? As a earth science major I am learning the fact." - IQ39

Only in the land of the moonbats is prediction synonomous with fact.

The Weather Network has the latest equipment in weather prediction, even more accurate than Environment Canada, yet they can't predict the weather 10 days out, let alone 50 years.

Earth science major. Soft science for the soft brained.

the weather network cant even get the next 5 days right around here in vancouver. but someone with an IQ of 39 can predict 10 or 15 years. HAHAHA

I thinik I will repeat something every moonbat should have to say over and over and over...

ITS THE SUN, STUPID!!!

Albatross,
Just when is this dust bowl for Saskatchewan and Alberta bowl going to start? I thought globule warning was well under way?
Or maybe your referring to the on in the 1890's, or the 30's or the late 60's or the mid 80's or the late 90's.
Funny thing is the there is a huge area of Saskatchewan is that is so wet many farmers are faced with not being able to seed all of their crops for the second year in row.
On top of this it’s so cold that melting has been delayed by weeks setting things back even further.
Like all the other religions that claimed the world was coming to an end and didn't the deadline for the apocalypse is thrown further into the future again and again and again like it has for over 2000 years.
Whoops we made a mistake in our calculations its now 10 years from now when blah blah blah........
I have work in research and development in various fields for 30 years so seeing trough false logic and baseless assumptions have become easy.
The first pattern of those who have based their argument on falsehoods is to fear monger that catastrophe is just around the corner.
The second key pattern is they react with righteous anger at those that question the science.
The third most telling pattern is that there is always enormous egos with the Jesus syndrome with righteous disciples standing in the way of the truth. How dare you challenge me, don't you know who I am! In this case: I am the savior of the planet!!
Which side of the argument has the most characters claiming to be the world's savior and guess which side has the most righteous disciples??(Albatross: I'm just trying to ensure my children have a future on this planet.)

"Albatross,
Just when is this dust bowl for Saskatchewan and Alberta bowl going to start? I thought globule warning was well under way?"

It is well under way; take a drive up to the nearest glacier and see for ourself. Enjoy the rain while it lasts.

http://geology.com/news/labels/Global-Warming.html

Albatross is tyical of a Globule warning fear mongerer. Their argument is based of falsehood and when pressed cannot answer the question directly.
These are Abatross's words "And that is why the economies of Alberta and Saskatchewan will be ruined went they are turned into a dust bowl".
So where is the dust bowl? Why is it wetter in central Saskatchan than it has been in a generation and colder than it has been in 20 years?
The fear mongerers scour the earth to find examples of temperature anomalies. Even though these anomalies have occured for billions of years and they claim they are something new and dangerous.
What a tragic and absolute waste of their time on this planet. It is about as productive as screaming that water is wet and that we should stop all economies until we solved the problem of wet water.