The UN is the NDP of the world.They exist,but no one in thier right mind would ever vote for them.

Canada's presence on this commission does lend it a credibility it doesn't deserve. I intend to write my MP on this one.

What a bloody farce!

I think it's great having the UN. It serves a very useful purpose, in that we know up front who to look out for and avoid. The UN lets public know who of all these idiots and idiot states are. Without the UN it would be left up to our esteemed elected officials and bureaucrats to keep us informed, now that, is scary.

The resoultion states that nations must "take resolute action to prohibit the dissemination of racist and xenophobic ideas and material aimed at any religion or its followers that constitute incitement and religious hatred, hostility, or violence."

Does this mean that Iran must stop denying the Holocaust? Must it stop its antisemitic cartoons and publications and must it stop its imams from preaching 'death to the infidels'?

After all, almost all the 'incitement of religious hatred, urging of violence and hostility, is being carried out by Islamic political and religious leaders.

ET,only western,judeo-christian countries are capable of hate. The other ones are just exercising thier right to free speech.

The resolution, which was opposed by a number of other non-Muslim countries, "expresses deep concern at attempts to identify Islam with terrorism, violence and human rights violations."

Next on the list, a bill making it illegal to identify the sky with the colour blue.

Regardless of the UN, the Muslims are coming to the party a little too late with these lies.

The other resolution, stating that the UN cannot go in to a nation to investigate human rights violations, effectively denies the very existence and authority of the UN.

After all, wasn't the UN set up to 'investigate any situation threatening international peace', and don't human rights violations fit into that description?

Imagine if the police in a city couldn't get a warrant to investigate crime carried out within a residence?

Heh - so much for the UN. A megabureaucracy, totally divorced from reality, living within the cocoon of empty rhetoric. And we pay them to do this.

From The Wall Street Journal
March 30, 2007

When it comes to actual human rights, the United Nations Human Rights Council reflexively discharges obfuscation, like a squid and its ink. That notwithstanding, the Council's fraudulence was made perfectly clear last week, when a routine hearing on "the Occupied Palestinian Territory" was disrupted by candor.

John Dugard, a U.N. "special rapporteur" on human rights, delivered a treatise on Israel's "colonialism and apartheid …

The U.S. put forward a tepid rejoinder, calling the remarks "unhelpful."

Enter Hillel Neuer, executive director of the NGO U.N. Watch. Seated before the Council, Mr. Neuer had the temerity to point up its modus operandi. "The dictators who run this Council," he said, "couldn't care less about the Palestinians, or about any human rights. They seek to demonize Israeli democracy, to delegitimize the Jewish state." He continued, "They also seek something else: to distort and pervert the very language and idea of human rights."

Council President Luis Alfonso de Alba furiously responded, "For the first time in this session I will not express thanks for that statement," thus violating U.N. protocol. He ruled the remarks inadmissible to the official record, and prohibited further statements "in similar tones." In the depths of the U.N., this was of course logical: Mr. Neuer's commentary had been accurate.

I wonder if it covers the chocolate Jesus statue.

But the Saudis are allowed to persecute, ban an defame non-muslims?

Of course, I'm just being rhetorical as I knowe this has always been the case, and I expect the left to join hands with prince Saud and sing kumbayah.

Just say no to drugs.

"Next on the list, a bill making it illegal to identify the sky with the colour blue."

No need. Fires from Global Warming will obliterate the sky.

Totally agree Kate. Canada now that it's under new management, should make an ethical statement and start rejecting the corruption and presumptive anti-democratic autocracy of this festered organ of global communism, by having the Canadian delegation walk out on the more unseemly UN goings on.

There are many UN committees and subgroups that Canada had become embroiled in which directly attack the sovereignty of our nation state and its democratic institutions...we should also bail on these as well.

Any place where the UN presupposes to displace the democracy or democratic institutions of sovereign nation states the western democratic nations should pull out. Let the commies,theocrats, kleptocrats, military despots and one-world government feudalists have their own little tribal policy circle jerk.

The UN was brought to American soil to help serve the cause of global peace making...NOT to have the globe's despotic systems dictate domestic policy to the free world and act as an unlected lelvel of global government.

I hope the next US president has the integrity to pull the plug on UN domestic policy making and I hope the Canadian and British PMs have the nuts to follow him out.

United Nations, the concept sounds so ideal. In truth, it should be shut down and relegated as a shrine for the Left.
Human Rights are being abused by many of the dregs of the world and they have reps at the UN.

It's a place for leaders and others who don't want to take responsibility for making tough decisions, its a bastion for the cop-outs of the world.
It reminds of some of our governments shipping the tough decisions off to the Supreme Court, then running with the decision of the UNELECTED Court of the Red Robes.

No, no - the "no more cartoons" act is good! This means we get to lock up and ignore any terrorist that mentions Allah or Mohammed, or asks for a Koran. After all, they must be defaming Islam!

"expresses deep concern at attempts to identify Islam with terrorism, violence and human rights violations."

Don't think their PR spin is good enough to cover these attrocities (from LGF):

“When they cook a dish in the Middle East, it is traditional to put the meat on top of the rice when they serve it. They kidnapped a woman’s baby in Baghdad, a toddler, and because the mother was unable to pay the ransom, they returned her child – beheaded, roasted and served on a mound of rice.

“The infant’s crime was to be an Assyrian, but this story, reported by the Barnabus Fund, went unnoticed in the West, like so many other horrific accounts of Christian persecution in Iraq. Since the invasion of Iraq, Muslim militants have bombed 28 churches and murdered hundreds of Christians. Last October, Islamists beheaded a priest in Mosul in revenge for the Pope’s remarks about Islam at Regensburg.”

Absolutely good call - Canada should not walk away quietly either. Make a big General Assembly stink out of it and hound the media into reporting the story even though the media will spin it to make the fascists & communists look good, adults will figure it out.

The media!!??!! Didn't Rick Salutin, in Friday's Globe, type that fundamentalist Muslims like the Taliban "promise freedom from foreign western control and the creation of just, egalitarian societies." We're doomed...

The problem I see with this last quote

"It makes no mention of any other religion besides Islam, but urges countries "to take resolute action to prohibit the dissemination of racist and xenophobic ideas and material aimed at any religion or its followers that constitute incitement and religious hatred, hostility, or violence."

is that ANY PERSON, Muslim or even the the "Orange and Green" confrontation in Northern Ireland must have enough sense not to riot, kill or maime because of a cartoon or any other so called incitement. In all of the above cases it is a serious shortcoming of the individuals involved to let this kind of behaviour exist.

The media!!??!! Didn't Rick Salutin, in Friday's Globe, type that fundamentalist Muslims like the Taliban "promise freedom from foreign western control and the creation of just, egalitarian societies." We're doomed...
Posted by: anon at March 31, 2007 7:04 PM

Walid Phares, in his latest book The War of Ideas (Jihadism against democracy), makes exactly your point when he refers to the Jihadists' enormous propaganda coup in portraying their mission as a anti-colonialist struggle. Moreoever, he explains how the minds (sic) of useful idiots like Rick Salutin have been poisoned by Saudi Wahabbi money infiltrating western university departments of Middle East studies from about 1973 with such success that our intellectuals utterly failed to cover the gathering global jihad -- which led directly to the great shock of 9/11 -- or the massive human rights abuses throughout the Muslim world (not biting the hand that feeds!) while relentlessly excoriating Israel for trumped up abuses.

Which of course, the UN -- Jihad-Central -- has always done, and continues to do, witness the multiple anti-Israel resolutions and the complete silence on, say, Sudan.

Vaclav Havel, I think, would call the human rights (sic) of the UN variety "human rightsism" which bears about the same relationship to true human rights as does "social justice" to true justice and liberty.

Why is the United Nations like it is ?? Think Oak Lake MB.

" ..But his green credentials scarcely begin to do justice to Strong’s complicated back-room career. He has spent decades migrating through a long list of high-level U.N. posts, standing behind the shoulder of every U.N. secretary-general since U Thant . Without ever holding elected office, he has had a hand in some of the world’s most important bureaucratic appointments, both at the U.N. and at the World Bank. A Canadian wheeler-dealer with an apple face and pencil mustache, Strong has parlayed his personal enthusiasms and connections into a variety of huge U.N. projects, while punctuating his public service with private business deals.

Along the way, Strong has also been caught up in a series of U.N. scandals and conflicts of interest. These extend from the notorious Oil-for-Food program to the latest furor over cash funneled via U.N. agencies to the rogue regime of North Korea, which involves, among other things, Strong’s creative use of a little-known, U.N.-chartered educational institution called the University for Peace. Above all, the tale of Maurice Strong illustrates the way in which the U.N., with its bureaucratic culture of secrecy, its diplomatic immunities, and its global reach, lends itself to manipulation by a small circle of those who best know its back corridors." Claudia Rosett.

I believe that the US gov't (excluding the striped pants at the US State dept.) would love to revoke it's country's membership in the UN.

The problem is there needs to be an alternative body for the US to join - a union of nations that are free as in democratic of free as in free-trading.

Membership could be broken into two separate voting rights as well as observer status for those country's that qualify for either. Voting would be weighted based on population for non-economic issues and GDP for economic ones. (fees would be based on the same metrics)

Voting privileges would be determined by a series of criteria that would generate a score between 0 to 100 of how economically or democratically free the country was. A country scoring 75 or better would be allowed to vote.

Where Canada and Stephen would come into the deal is that Canada would be the perfect location and Toronto the perfect city for such an organization. SH could negotiate the US's entry (and its exit from the UN) as well as other nations. The early adopters would be NZ, Australia, Korea, the UK and many of the states from the former eastern bloc. The rest of the major players would rapidly follow suit as wherever the US is the rest of the world with half a clue will follow.

Domestically it would be a huge winner for SH and salt away many ridings in southern Ontario.

the second line in my above post should read:

The problem is there needs to be an alternative body for the US to join - a union of nations that are free as in democratic and/or free as in free-trading.

meanwhile catholics are issuing death threats over a chocolate jesus

" ..Maurice Strong: A Dr. Evil-style strategist. Owner of a 200,000-acre New Age Zen colony. Designer of a proposal to "consider" requiring licences to have babies.", Ezra Lavant Dec 2 2002

" ..Shortly after his selection as U.N. Secretary General, Kofi Annan told the Lehrer News Hour that Ingvar Carlsson and Shirdath Ramphal, co-chairs of the U.N.-funded Commission on Global Governance, would be among those asked to help him reform the sprawling, world-wide U.N. bureaucracy. His first choice, however, announced in the Washington Post on January 17, 1997, was none other than Maurice Strong, also a member of the Commission on Global Governance." Henry Lamb Jan 1997

" ..Strong's appointment as Senior Advisor, "to assist planning and executing a far-reaching reform of the world body," is seen by U.N. watchers to be a masterful strategic maneuver to avoid political opposition while empowering Strong to implement a global agenda he has been developing for years. More than 100 developing nations coordinated a "Draft Strong" movement in 1995 to replace Boutros Boutros-Ghali. But Strong's name was never presented publicly as a candidate. His appointment avoids the public scrutiny and the possibility of a veto. As a Senior Advisor to Kofi Annan, Strong will have a free hand to do what he wants while Annan takes the heat - or the praise." Henry Lamb Jan 1997

Buzz Hargrove, can ya say Cherry autos flooding Canada ?? Out side of Kyoto ???

".. According to Elaine Dewar, author of Cloak of Green. Strong is a Socialist. He was born into a family who worked to get out the vote for Prime Minister Mackenzie King, who in 1943 was promoting the National Council for Soviet-Canadian Friendship. Strong's cousin, Anna Louise Strong, was a Marxist, and a member of the Comintern, who spent two years with Mao and Chou En-lai. Her burial in China in 1970 was organized personally by Chou En-lai. Maurice is well received in China, partly because of his cousin's connections." Elaine Dewar, Cloak of Green.

" ..This experience may have been the genesis of Strong's realization that NGOs (non-government organizations) provide an excellent way to use NGOs to couple the money from philanthropists and business with the objectives of government. In 1959, Strong created his own company, MF Strong Management. While serving as executive vice-president of Canada's Power Corporation, he also ran his own company, Alberta gas company, another company called Ajax, and elevated his role in the international YMCA and Canada's Liberal Party. He told Elaine Dewar, "We controlled many companies, controlled political budgets. We influenced a lot of appointments.... Politicians got to know you and you them." Henry Lamb Jan 1997.

"..Strong also served on the U.N.-funded Commission on Global Governance, co-chaired by Ingvar Carlsson, and Shirdath Ramphal, former President of the IUCN. The Commission's final report, Our Global Neighborhood, sets forth detailed plans to achieve what is called "Global Governance." In his new position as Senior Advisor to Kofi Annan, Strong is again well positioned to implement the agenda he has been developing by calling its implementation "reform." Undoubtedly, Strong's NGO network, funded by Foundations and governments tied to Strong's worldwide interests, will be used to promote the agenda at the national level and at the U.N. level." Henry Lamb.

Promote the agenda ?? Islam ?? Bacca Ranch fringe religions ??

Yup. I've been saying for years that Canada along with the USA should walk away from the UN. It serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever other than to lend legitmacy to dictatorial regimes and the abuse of citizens of those regimes. I'm sure other noble countries would follow (maybe Australia)

"[industrial countries] developed and benefited from the unsustainable patterns of production and consumption which have produced our present dilemma. It is clear that current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class -- involving high meat intake, consumption of large amounts of frozen and convenience foods, use of fossil fuels, appliances, home and work-place air-conditioning, and suburban housing -- are not sustainable. A shift is necessary toward lifestyles less geared to environmentally damaging consumption patterns." Maurice Strong, Rio Conference, Earth Summit II 1992

Ever wonder why one of PM Paul Martins first "acts" was to smoke-the-pipe with an obscure religion like the Delai Lama ??

" ...CFP was told by a journalistic colleague that a condominium is being purchased in Ottawa for Strong, who will return from abroad to be by the side of his protégé, ensuring the Chretien-to-Martin-transition goes down without a hitch.

Strong is not merely Martin’s mentor; he’s his creator in the business world." Juli McLeod.

Roll Call... Canadians for "a truly global order of peace, justice and security,"

Lethter Peerthon?

Here.

Mao Stlong?

Here.
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And in the United Nations itself, Canadians have been called upon by other nations to chair committees, to help to find common approaches. Individual Canadians – diplomats and civilians – worked hard over the years to try to bring this ideal into being. To make it real. Particularly when the United Nations Organization and its associated agencies were created in the late 1940s.

It was Lester B. Pearson, who chaired the preparatory commission that created in 1945 the Food and Agricultural Organization of the UN.

It was a Canadian lawyer, John Peters Humphrey, who wrote the first draft of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, adopted by the United Nations in 1948. And for the next twenty years headed the Human Rights Division of the UN.

It was a Canadian doctor-turned-army general, Brock Chisholm, who, as the first head of the World Health Organization, mobilized the international effort to eradicate malaria.

It was a Canadian, Margaret Catley-Carlson, who took the UN International Children's Emergency Fund, UNICEF, into the role of fighting disease among Africa's children.

It was a Canadian diplomat, Alan Beesley, who was at the forefront of the negotiations from 1967 to 1982 that resulted in the Law of the Sea and the oceans as "the common heritage of mankind".

It was a Canadian, Maurice Strong, who was the Secretary-General and chief driving force behind the 1992 UN Conference on Environment and Development – the Rio "Earth Summit".

It was a Canadian Judge, Louise Arbour, who presided over the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia from 1994 to 1999 – the first international war crimes tribunal since Nuremberg.

It was a Canadian lawyer and diplomat, Philippe Kirsch, who, at the Rome Conference in 1998, chaired the key Committee that created the International Criminal Court.

And it is a Canadian, Louise Fréchette, who is today the first Deputy Secretary-General of the United Nations.

This short listing is not to boast of Canadian achievements. But rather to say that, for many Canadians, the United Nations remains the best hope we've got for a truly global order of peace, justice and security, underpinned by internationally agreed and enforced law. It is the only place where an "international law of positive cooperation", if there was to be one, could exist.
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http://www.gg.ca/media/doc.asp?lang=e&DocID=1300

I truly believe that most North Americans are blissfully oblivious to many of the actions being taken by the UN. Many of these actions would be considered far left extremism, and noted as such by most Canadians, if championed by a Canadian political party, but since the UN doesn't attract the degree of attention as our own federal politics do, their more extremist actions and stances are largely unknown.

The UN, in theory, is a good and necessary organization. It, in theory, provides a relatively neutral forum to hold important international diploamtic meetings, and settle various diplomatic disputes, within. It, in theory, could serve the purpose of raising the standard of living for all citizens of the world by insisting upon universal human rights being adhered to.

However, in actual fact, the UN functions largely as the global version of our Parliament in Ottawa. You have a veriety of 'political parties', if you will.

You have the various Islamic regimes, which may have some disputes with one another, but are united in their fervent opposition to the United States and Israel and support of the Islamic faith. Most of the other UN 'parties' are scared to death of THIS group, and hence are likely to cave to them (especially if there are financial and/or power positioning gains to be made from it).

You have various third world countries that are naturally envious of more affluent countries... and hence receptive to many left-leaning ideas like wealth redistribution on a global scale.

You have rising totalitarian powers with current or past links to communism in China, and Russia.

You have very culturally liberal, and socialistic, continental Europe.

Finally, you have a handful of countries - the United States, Canada, Australia, Great Britian, and Japan being the most prominent of them - who truly believe in democracy, and to varying degrees, freedom of expression.

So, what happens, is that you get various co-alitions forming. The continental Europeans and the Islamic states recognize that their collective numbers are powerful within the UN, and they put aside their differences for greater power. The Islamic states want Mohammed protected from public redicule... everywhere in the world. The EU complies with this request by spinning it as a human rights matter, and garbing it in the language of "sophisticated liberalism". It's like a careful negotiation between the Bloc, and the Liberals.

The UN needs to stop functioning as a virtual global parliament... otherwise, there is simply no logical way it can do anything but prop up certain religions more than others (i.e. have incredible legislative double standards), call for far left extremist actions, and actually work against global human rights, democracy, and freedom of expression.

Steyn got it right about mixing the decent countries and the rest at the UN, it's like mixing dog shit and ice cream. The dog shit doesn't end up tasting like ice cream, the ice cream ends up tasting like dog shit.

One thing needed only:

USA, UK, & Canada should walk out & stop paying fees to the UN. The entire cabal of weasel states remaining would collapse like a house of cards, and the snivelling bureaucrats representing dictatorships, terrorist states & bullies would crawl back whimpering to their holes under rocks.

Kate

May I suggest that you have an annual Rosie O'Donnell award for the Canadian who utters the most idiotic statement on the issue of Islamic terrorism.

If he was correctly quoted by anon above -and I take it he was - my vote is for Rick Salutin and his statement regarding just (sic) Talibanic societies -and no he didn't mean just effing nuts. As deserving as this nutbar is I am sure he would have stiff competition.
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Irwin Daisy

Thank you for your courageous, politically incorrect, truth telling posts about Islam.

Irwin Daisy: May I second Terry Gain's citation of ID's extremely cogent analysis of Islam. I've been immersed in the subject for at least two years but can tell you truthfully that I am in awe of his knowledge of the subject.

And will the UN step in to regulate The Rev.Rosie O' and her religious following?

Terry Gain and me no dhimmi, thank you for your kind words.

I believe we are in the opening round of the war of our generation. Not only are we dealing with internal and external aggressive and passive jihad, we are dealing with the ignorance, if not outright collusion of the left. This, despite the fact that they have much to lose.

The more I study Islam, its founder and its history, the more I need to expose this particularly vile cancer for all to see.

Exposure and truth is fought against by the Islamists with pc appropriate words, such as degredation of faith, Islamophobia and other such nonsense, offering no rational defence of Islam. Because there is none. Then of course comes the taqiyya, typically based on abrogation built into the Quran - they of course can hold two opinions, to be used indiscriminately.

Then the threats.

But, meanwhile, look what's happening:

Islamabad (AsiaNews/Dt) – It [is] an ultimatum not a request: if within a week Sharia law is not enforced throughout the country than [sic] true Muslims “will islamify society on their own”. Maulana Abdul Aziz, Imam of the Lal Masjid Mosque and director of Jamia Hafsa Madrassah has said.
Speaking after Friday prayers to thousands of faithful, Aziz clarified: “If the government ignores our requests than we will have to enforce them ourselves”. The man then asked for the closure of “all brothels and gaming houses as soon as possible”, also adding in this case that “that aim may only be achieved thanks to the help of the Madrassah students”.

Unlike Iran, Pakistan already has nukes.

The way I see it, those who know and care must continue to expose Islam and fight it tooth and nail, until western governments wake up; immigration laws are fixed to reality; Islamic hate mosques are closed down and imams are deported; Saudi financed wahhabi education into the west is shut down (if not funding seized); citizenship repudiated; and laws are put in place specifically targetting Islamic hate and political/judicial mischief.

Furthermore, I don't see how Geneva rules or human rights apply to Islamic monsters who never apply such rules themselves.

I don't know if this is courageous. But I do know that it is essential.

Its time to kick the whole damn UN out of america and move it to a place where its better suited like MOSCOW,HANOI, or BEJING

How the %$&^% is the UN going to enforce this farce. With more resolutions? Gimme a break.

No Spurwing Plover, those cities still provide much too much distraction. I'd suggest someplace quiter and more conducive to contemplation, like Novaya Zemlya or Spitsbergen. Easter Island might fill the bill as well.