Yeah, the comments... Blunt but true, blunt in my own manner. Will they ever listen? No. Too many times they were screwed, too many times they believed their leaders who led them into almost entire annihilation. They do not listen anymore to anyone.

That's my perception of Western Europe.

Eastern Europe is not entirely lost, there are bright people there, but they are poor and the smart ones are here or planning to come over soon. I meet them at the range all the time, it's usually a young couple teaching their kids to shoot rifles. Good for us.

"Der Spiegel usually contains the typical anti-Americanism of the Eurosnot class..."

Yeah, but sometimes it's really funny. For example, an American magazine would not put Tom Cruise in his place as - heh - efficiently as this:

SPIEGEL: Do you see it as your job to recruit new followers for Scientology?

Cruise: I'm a helper. For instance, I myself have helped hundreds of people get off drugs. In Scientology, we have the only successful drug rehabilitation program in the world. It's called Narconon.

SPIEGEL: That's not correct. Yours is never mentioned among the recognized detox programs. Independent experts warn against it because it is rooted in pseudo science.

Cruise: You don't understand what I am saying. It's a statistically proven fact that there is only one successful drug rehabilitation program in the world. Period.

SPIEGEL: With all due respect, we doubt that.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,353577,00.html

Listen all you little hunlets...

Never have I laughed so hard.

It's a really, really good article. It is most unfortunate this head line is readily accepted and it isn't only the left wing in Europe and Canada that slag's the USA. It's the country's own citizens firmly planted on the left side of any equation they agree with the head lines, and not the reality. Their country is good.

Tony Blair's latest cuts to the RN will leave it on a par with the Belgian Navy - according to a Gerard Baker of the Times of London (via Hugh Hewitt).

What a profound response!

It makes perfect sense that when members of one European nation criticize your foreign policy that you obnoxiously lash out against as many others as possible within the confines of a facile blog post.

Well done, you patriotic American you! You have single-handedly refuted all of the criticisms that have been made about your foreign policy... and your imperial tendencies... and your pontificating nature... and your insensitivity... and your obstinence. Your arguments were totally convincing: you don't count. I for one never saw that one coming.

Forain:

"... your imperial tendencies... and your pontificating nature... and your insensitivity... and your obstinence"

Vis-a-vis Americans versus Europeans, this would be a classic case of the pot calling the kettle black except it is at least debatable that Americans have the above characterstics.

As for euros, there is no doubt whatsoever that they exhibit such tendencies. We have history ever since the Magna Carta as a record.

My standard response is that the President puts his hand on the Bible and pledges to "protect the constitution and people of the United States".
Never does he swear to give a flying fig about what pissants in Canada or Europe think or say.

"Islam and Europeans honestly deserve each other"....and will be merged given time. Unless by some miracle of determination to save themselves a Ronald Reagan arises in Europe they are leaving history with barely a whimper.

I'm proud to say as an American at this time in history, know us by our enemies. Smug lefty Euroweenies don't like us, good. Islamofascists don't like us, good. The UN doesn't like us, good. The persons I reserve the most destain for are the Americans that walk among us living a very superiorly comfortable and free life and hate this country. They are lower than the first three groups.

Well said penny .

Well said Penny!...

"your imperial tendencies."

Oh, please, go read a book. The US is the only superpower that decided NOT to exercise political hegemony over its neighbours. As a citizen of oil-rich Canada, this something of which you should be even faintly aware.

Europe, Japan, South Korea, Kuwait and now Iraq. In each case, American troops arrived and -- here's the important part -- left or intend to leave after democratic government was restored or created.

The US occupies a unique historical position in this regard -- along with being the linchpin for Western liberty, stability and wealth -- and all it gets in return are adolescent sneering and petty resentment.

For one month, give China, Russia or even France the status of sole superpower, and then we'll see who has true imperial tendencies.

Well said, Penny! God bless you and those that think likewise.

As someone born in Germany it saddens me to see what a shadow of its former greatness Europe has become. All the proof we need about the dangers of socialism.

I wonder what percent of Americans would think the United States is more dangerous than Iran given the way the Democrats are behaving?

The Europeans have a very short memory as to who helped them the most after the war. More so Germany as it got the lions share of reconstruction monies. But why not bit the hand that fed you. Arrogant Germans yes. Ungrateful socialist peasants yes. Let the Russians help them next time. Or are they helping them now with their natural gas bargins. Any European I come across in Canada that bad mouths Americians, I simiply ask, who helped them the most after the war. By in large Americians still send out more aid per capita than any other country.

Hunlets?

Nah, just a regular garden variety HUN, with Canucklehead tendencies.

Heh, the HUNS started the Christmas Truce of 1914, it is only the leaders that weren't listening.

Kaiser, Schmeiser!!

WWI was just an over sized family feud, since Tsar Nicky, Kaiser Willy and King Georg V were all cousins. Just carving up the colonial map you know.

What's more Queen Elizabeth II can hide behind the name Windsor, but it really is Saxe-Coburg-Gotha.

So QE II is really a good german in disguise, you can't fool me.

And Queen Victoia was from the House of Hanover so who is the real "hunlet"?

Queen Elizabeth II from the House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, Queen of Canada.

So if Her Majesty brings a pint of ale, I'll bring my stein of beer.

And the Americans can just go have their "Tea Party".

Cheers

Europeans have been envious of Americans since WWII and embarrassed about their own incompetenace. They were briefly grateful but they resented the need to keep depending on America for defense against the USSR, so they faked a friendship for 50 years.

When the Berlin Wall fell, there was no need to fake how Old Europe felt about America; they thought the peace dividend was permanent.

They didn’t react for awhile because Clinton had lived among them like Jane Goodall with her apes so he was deemed to be harmless. Plus Europe ended up needing American planes and bombs for the war they started and couldn’t end in Kosovo.

Then Bush came along and literally wore his cowboy boots to Paris and would not yield to the transnational despots running the UN, nor would Blair. Yet again, the Anglosphere was too much for Old Europe to take and they hauled off and gave America the dirty look they’d been saving up for 50 years.

Unfortunately, too many Americans care what Europeans think about them.

I remember in 1981, on excercise in Germany, I was travelling with some American and British soldiers....we were all in uniform....the locals treated the Americans and British like they were dogs, yet fell over backwards to buy me beer, food etc...when I questioned this, and argued on behalf of all NATO troops, they attempted to put me in my place.....well, needless to say, I did not receive any more freebies after that...these retarded euro-weenie morons did not even know who was allowing them to live in freedom by standing toe to toe with 2000 idling soviet tanks...believe me, not one of us NATO troops wanted to be in Germany protecting the nazi/hun/jew murderer's after that

"Eastern Europe is not entirely lost, there are bright people there, but they are poor and the smart ones are here or planning to come over soon. I meet them at the range all the time, it's usually a young couple teaching their kids to shoot rifles. Good for us."

+1 to that. All the guys with cool black guns at my range are from behind the Iron curtain... it's why they came here in the first place, more freedom!

Having worked on cruiseships and seen just how arrogant the Dutch and Germans officers are when put in an authority position, I can tell ya: Next war, they're on their own. US and Canada ain't savin their Private Rienne's.

Forain:

" -- are really completely indifferent to what Germans, or for that matter Spainiards, Italians, Belgians, Frenchpersons, Russians, Swedes, Norweigians, and all the other huddled massed of PC-euthanized, welfare-state besotted, noodlewrist eurogoobers think about us."

Actually, this is completely true and for reasons that might not immediately be understood.

Even Kate has said that when she travels in the US, Canada effectively disappears.

Except for American who are political junkies, most citizens will never even know what is being said about the US in Europe.

In the Dallas-Fort Worth area alone, there are 5 or 6 million people, and the country we are having problems with is Mexico. So we have plenty to think about and to be concerned about.

When Europe does distinguish itself in a way that excites our approval and appreciation, it's when they stand up, not when they criticize.

Sometimes a European country will display some backbone, and nothing invites US appreciation more than that. So if Europe wants to get our attention, the way to go about it is through strength, determination, and aggressiveness directed at our mutual enemies.

Whining is just weakness and appeasement and is not worth making our papers.

Hans, you may already know that at one time in Texas history, a decision had to be made whether to speak English or German. This gives you some idea of how many Germans' descendents are in Texas. Try taking a vacation in Fredericksburg sometime. You'll have to get used to your beer gardens being populated by people wearing cowboy hats.

Democratic initiatives in respect to Iraq will be vetoed by President Bush. And even Hillary has said that should she become President, America will have a presence in Iraq for a long time to come. Beyong the political posturing to throw some red meat at the moonbats, most serious Democrats understand that we are in the struggle against terrorism for the long term.

More on Europe:
http://www.damianpenny.com/archived/009161.html

Mark
Ottawa

Right on Penny!

Personally when things get dull, I like to go to www.f$$kfrance.com which is a website where some Americans and some French express mutual admiration for each others culture and countries.

I have never read such novel ways of expressing undying love for one another. Heh.

Greg in Dallas:

Yep, more than a few Germans made it to the US before the WWI, WWII dust ups.

A few Hessians fought in the revolutionary war and they were offered 50 acres to desert from the British cause.

Is that offer still on?

My grandfather had 12 siblings, one stayed behind with my grandfather and they experienced the WWI/WWII shoot em ups, and the other 10 went to the USA around the turn of the century. There are plenty of Rupprechts up and down the East Coast of USA but I haven't had time to trace the family tree sideways.

I don't mind cowboy boots, its what is in my beer stein that counts.

Cheers

despite the misspellings i think i have a crush on that Spiegel commenter. Do the Germans realize they now trust a murderous regime intent on kiling jews more than a regime that kicked out the jew killers from Germany 60 years ago. So now they are just admiring jew killers from afar. Same Diff? The Krauts have lost the plot. I blame the left.

What penny said!!

In case you haven't noticed... the number of Germanic names in senior positions of government and industry has been declining right along with the quality of governance in both areas!
Those men and women who have been holding the reigns of power successfully are the offspring of European and especially German emigres' to north America.
The children of the Europeans with the brains and moxie to get the hell out of the shit pit of Post war Europe and make the most of what a free and democratic capitalist nation has to offer.

Only trouble is we now are witnessing their passing. And in their passing we have what now passes for leadership or intelligence in it's most pitiful form.
In truth the Europeans have nothing to offer and nothing to look forward to.

Better pray that enough of us North Americans still have the wits to resist following the path of Europe!

Bravo Penny!

Good read!

Davids Medienkritik is a great site if you want to find out more about matters Deutsch. He has a new post on this very subject.

I'm hoping there are still some Europeans who understand freedom; the Poles, for instance.

Anyone else? Helloo?

Being a person of German descent (my father is from germany) and from someone who has been in the country numerous times these new stats do not surprise me. Unfortunatly the Muslim religion knows how to reproduce and they do it very well. The birth rates in every other status group have dropped to all time lows. Currently Germany is 4% Muslim 3.2million. The scary stats are the futher outlook for our children in Germany and Europe in general. The Muslim population in Germany will rise to over 45% by 2025. 1/3 of all children in Europe by 2025 will be born to Muslim families. We all know that the increase in Muslim's in Europe was due to large amounts of refugees in the 70's.
Talking with my relatives in Europe they are scared and support Bush. They are scared of a very secretive population completely self contained with no real contact with their neighbours or country. The ones with their eyes open Europe are scared and to old to leave. The younger population has been raised in a Liberal environment which has corrupted them completly and is in the process of collapsing around them. They are unfortunatly to blind to see. Pray not only for North America but for the future generations of Europe who will be the minority in an Islamic State. God help us all

And these are 21st century civilized humanoids?
Whatever, they seem worthy of each other, Islam and Euroweenies.
Socialism eats the heart and soul from it's host.

Not very encouraging to have the Left in this Country constantly bashing Conservatives for being too close to Bush, yadda, yadda, ad nauseum.
If they didn't live so close to such a great protectorate, they'd have a lot more to concern themselves with, including shoot off their yaps.
In the meantime, they're bloody embarrassing.

nomdenet (6:53 P.M.)
"They didn’t react for awhile because Clinton had lived among them like Jane Goodall with her apes..." Good one! Spot on!

kingstonlad (7:00 P.M.)
With regard to Europe, about 100,000 Canadian warriors are buried there. It saddens me to say it but, in the end, they may have died for nothing. You know, I've found myself thinking over the last 3 years or so that it's too bad their graves have to remain in Europe; those Iron Men belong in Canada.
Oh well, at least enough Jews were saved to become the bedrock of Israel.
Oh, and thank God for the U.S.A.!

I for one and thankful we have the Americans as neighbours. Iran, or

I am very grateful that we have the Americans as neighbours rather than perhaps the Russians, Chinese or an Islamic country like say Iran or Pakistan.

How quickly the Europeans forget. Without the US and all the allies, they would be under Nazi domination. I wonder if they will cry to the US for help when the muslims take over.

Europe may already be lost to Islam. I pray that we will wake up before it happens to us too.

So who conducted the so-called poll ??

And I wonder if Claus Christian Malzahn, Spiegel Online, reflects a more accurate and kinder attitude toward America. I would hope so.

Could there be something else here. Something that the media would never report.

Because the US of A is so powerful, even a 5% chance of hostilities is something to worry about.

On the other hand, Iran is not as scary, even if there would be a 95 % chance of conflict. In comparison, Iran has dick for weapons. Not yet.

The Economist stopped contributing serious political commentary some time ago. The Lexington column in particular has become a parody of ignorant anti-American musings.

The business section remains a quality read. A shame they can't split the publication into two.

They get too much from the mainstream left-wing news media

I should give one example.

Here, the Economist says:

"When the WMD turned out not to exist, Mr Bush inflated this “freedom agenda”. In his inauguration speech in 2005, after his re-election, he connected Iraq to America's “great liberating tradition” in foreign policy."

Here's what Bush said in the 2003 State of the Union, among other times:

" The dictator who is assembling the world's most dangerous weapons has already used them on whole villages -- leaving thousands of his own citizens dead, blind, or disfigured. Iraqi refugees tell us how forced confessions are obtained -- by torturing children while their parents are made to watch. International human rights groups have catalogued other methods used in the torture chambers of Iraq: electric shock, burning with hot irons, dripping acid on the skin, mutilation with electric drills, cutting out tongues, and rape. If this is not evil, then evil has no meaning. (Applause.)

And tonight I have a message for the brave and oppressed people of Iraq: Your enemy is not surrounding your country -- your enemy is ruling your country. (Applause.) And the day he and his regime are removed from power will be the day of your liberation. (Applause.) ...

And as we and our coalition partners are doing in Afghanistan, we will bring to the Iraqi people food and medicines and supplies -- and freedom. (Applause.) ...

America is a strong nation, and honorable in the use of our strength. We exercise power without conquest, and we sacrifice for the liberty of strangers.

Americans are a free people, who know that freedom is the right of every person and the future of every nation. The liberty we prize is not America's gift to the world, it is God's gift to humanity. (Applause.) "

You see, the freedom thing isn't a recent phenomenon. It was spoken of all the time. The media either weren't listening, or more likely, they've decided that it doesn't fit a narrative that made the war all about WMD.

The Economist should know better. At one time, it did.

Ya! What he said!!

Appeasement.
Translation: Bend over..yes I think I will.

The article - " Evil Americans, Poor Mullahs" is a wake up call for not only Germans but all Europeans. Following is the disaster that awaits the world if Iran obtains a nucleur weapon.

IT’S ALL ABOUT IRAN

We need to deal with Iran now otherwise the US could be left at one minute to midnight with no other option but to attack Iran. The longer the US waits to impose a meaningful sanction regime against Iran, the greater the necessity of military action will become – with all the potential disastrous political and economic consequences for both parties.

The Iranian Sanction Agreement just negotiated by the Security Council is an absolute joke. The US is allowing these countries to delay and obstruct sanctions against Iran.

THE REALITY IS THE US DOES NOT NEED CHINA OR RUSSIA TO INPOSE SANCTIONS AGAINST IRAN. THE US CAN IMPOSE DEVASTATING RECIPROCAL SANCTIONS

(Go to www.irandemocracy.net)

Lest we all forget one of the main reasons for the Iraq war was that China, Germany, Russia and France had been bought off by Saddem through the UN Oil for Food program. It is hard to believe that these countries by their present actions are again moving us in the direction of war with Iran. By their greed, they are totally blind to the very real danger Iran poses to the entire Middle East. There is an impending political and military catastrophe facing America, Europe, China and the World in the Middle East. This catastrophe will lead to a disastrous disruption of oil supplies that will force oil prices to $10.00/$20.00/gallon and throw the world economy into a massive recession affecting all world economies espically the developing economies of China and India. This could cause political instability on a world wide scale. The reality of the situation is that you can talk with the Iranian leadership until you are blue in the face - AND NOTHING WILL BE ACHIEVED. Iran is marching forward to obtaining a nuclear weapon and will not be stopped with endless talk. TIME IS NOT ON OUR SIDE.

The West faces the greatest strategic defeat in its history.

As described in this article - if the US is forced out of Iraq the following disaster will ensue.

The Iraqi government immediately collapses.

All Iraqis who supported the Government and US flee the country by the hundreds of thousands.

Iran immediately steps into the power vacuum supporting the seizure of Baghdad by their radical Shiite militia allies.

A radical Shiite Islamic government is imposed on Iraq.

A podium against the Sunnis begins with millions killed. The survivors are driven out of the country.

One million Hezbollah style fighters are enlisted into the radical Shiite Militias. (If Hezbollah can muster an army of fifty thousand fighters from a Lebanese population of 1.5 million Shiites – then in Iraq a Hezbollah style government would create an army of one million Shiite fanatics.)

This force in alliance with the Iranian army captures Riyadh within weeks and seizes the Gulf States.

They then march into Jordon creating a Shitte Crescent stretching from Iran to the Suez Canal and from the Mediterean Sea to the Russian Cossacks.

As previously mentioned - with 80% of the world’s oil, under Iran's control the price will soar to $10.00/$20.00 per gallon.

Israel is attacked with rockets on all sides effectively shutting down the Israeli economy and destroying the Jewish state.

After obtaining nuclear weapons, Iran unleashes terrorist forces worldwide attacking Europe and the US.

These terrorists smuggle nuclear weapons into London, Paris, Washington, New York and kill millions.

This nightmare does not have to happen.

Its time for Europe to wake up and realize that it is not US cities that will be within range of Iranian ballastic missles but Berlin, Paris, London, Madrid etc.

Written By,

Larry Houle

E-mail: intermedusa@yahoo.com
www.irandemocracy.net

There are more Americans of German descent than any other ethnic group (2nd is Irish, 3rd is English). But to the point: How is it a Canadian can believe that the US is "imperialistic"? If we were, why isn't Canada the 51st state?

Think about it. You have oil, natural resources, and hey, all that great wilderness and wildlife. If we were "imperialist," Canada would be at the top of our list of nations to conquer.

If you don't care what Germans think, then why are you guys talking about it?

Penny said: "... The persons I reserve the most destain for are the Americans that walk among us living a very superiorly comfortable and free life and hate this country. They are lower than the first three groups."

Cudos, Penny. But you know that we know who they are, take note, and then the most of us just get on with what we do best.

The haters will one day finally find themselves between the rock-and-the-hard-place (assuming they recognize it when they arrive), and they will discover the REAL difference between the *Rosie O'Donnel* and the *Rosie the Riveter*.

This is germanys equilanant to TIME,NEWSWEEK and other left-wing rags this is the same mag that brought up the hoax of the HITLER DIARIES

I am currently in Poland and have seen a high proportion of people dislike the government here (which is conservative). I always ask them why they dislike the government and the president in particular. They always say that they are doing "nothing". I have yet to get a more logical answer out of anyone. And to make it worse I have seen a big change from liking Americans 15 years ago to hating on America and Bush in particular. Its a shame that even Eastern Europe is having a change of heart...Forget about Western Europe-they are beyond repair. I am taking various EU Policy and financial classes here in Poland and have seen how inherently stupid many of their policies really are- the welfare state is destroying their country with 15 percent unemployment in Poland and over 10 percent in Germany...Not to mention the flood of middle easterners into France. In 30 years they will have a huge minority of arabs in their country. They will have an even bigger problem than the U.S. has on its hands. Hating on America is an interesting theme...Its interesting how Europe has yet to learn from history and Hitlers prodding all over Europe while France in particular watches (that's all they do). Lets not forget the biggest sympathizers in this mess...the french of course...I recently got into a conversation with a Frenchmen in my class and he began to explain why the French gave in so easily in World War 2 and prior to then. He said that they were sick of WWI and couldnt commit themselves. Essentially they wanted to live in peace while hitler marched around Europe flexing his muscle...Then they look to England for help and get a peace of paper signed by Hitler himself stating "peace for all time"...They got whats coming to them then and its only starting now