Thats it!

I'm moving!

:(

Im opening a real estate office somewhere in Nunavit.

70 meters above sealevel - beach front soon.

The UN again! Anyone wonder what their REAL motivation is? They are making me very suspicious.
And how in the world did they get most of the media to preach from the same envirobible?
It says "According to the UN"... WHO at the UN? The guy who lives in the closet with the paintcans?

Five minutes on Google and I found this. Why couldn't a paid professional reporter find it?

"Recent paleoclimate modeling has provided insights into the nature of global warming during the Cretaceous. These results suggest that atmospheric CO2 concentrations during the Cretaceous were four times current CO2 levels, and the global mean temperature during the Cretaceous was 11.2°F warmer than present"

http://www.igsb.uiowa.edu/inforsch/greenhse/grnhouse.htm

Somehow there were lots of species that remained unwiped out until that asteroid got them.

Surly said: "Why couldn't a paid professional reporter find it?"

Exactly, Surly. Why couldn't they? Why are they all scaremongering in unison like this? There are lots of different opinions out there.

Well before this climatic armageddon occurs we should enjoy our winter orange grove blossoms in Athabasca ;-)

Seriously, listening to the moonbat left has always been a daunting task for even the open minded but their screed has gone from comically deceived to chronically delusional...but at least now listening to a moonbat with a soap box is cheaper than paying to see the latest Hollywood thriller.

I used to think only those cracker tent meeting fundamentist bible thumpers engaged in this fire and brimstone we're-all-going-to-hell-unless-you-sweeten-the-prophet's-pot-with-a-little-guilt-loot-to-buy-you-comfort-from-my-scary fables shake down routine...but I see the evangelist moonbat left has ltched onto it like Opra on a baked ham.

"Eking out a living in polar refuges"? I love the notion of a polar refuge, and airports full of Arizona folks coming north to escape their brutal summers, if only for a week-long all-inclusive package at West Edmonton Mall.

It's a little old... but it's a connection between Gore/Suzuki/UN
http://www.globalpolicy.org/finance/docs/machan.htm

Just thinking...these predictied climate catastrophic "methane fireballs" could be experienced a lot sooner than we think if one of Al Gore's fart catchers happens to be smoking at the time he's ingesting clinatic wisdom from it's source.

Where is Noah and company, isn't it ark building time?

Oh yes I forgot Divine Providence said that the earth wouldn't be destroyed again.

No hope, and no brains. Do these people qualify for a PH.D in 'harum scarum' or "pile it higher and deeper"?

I think the first rule in computer science is GIGO.

"Garbage in, Garbage out."

NOAH!! Nice to see you, where you been hiding all these years!?!

It all beats watching ice dams form on your roof and knowing there's nothing you can do until spring.

Build the Ark!! Build the Ark!! Build the Ark!! Build the Ark!!

LOL ;-)

...the holy flood approaches to wipe all "non believers" and "deniers" from the planet...then and only then will moonbats be left unhindered to reproduce

The next time Mercer and Suzuki go polar dipping would holding their heads underwater for 10 minutes prevent at least one methane fireball?

I'll do what I can if they just give me a couple of days notice.

The thing is the dipshit who wrote this article is no more a scientist than I am a Feminist.
From wikipedia: Mark Lynas (b. 1973) is a British author, journalist and environmental activist focussed on climate change. He is a contributor to New Statesman, Ecologist, Granta and Geographical magazines, and The Guardian and The Observer newspapers in the UK. He holds a degree in history and politics from the University of Edinburgh. He lives in Oxford, England.
He also has a blog at
http://www.marklynas.org/
Doesn't this stuff amount to simple fear mongering, no better than the worst televangilist?
Holding the population hostage with the threat of disaster unless they account for their sins by purchasing carbon credits to offset their dirty lifestyle. Sheesh

artic real estate. wow....does this mean we have to re-locate the polar bears to the mid latitudes ??? they are going to be pi**ed. geesus.

....should have included...or do we wait till they are all extinct before heading for the icebergs.

Where is Noah and company, isn't it ark building time?

Oh yes I forgot Divine Providence said that the earth wouldn't be destroyed again.

Actually, Hans, He promised to never again use a global flood to wipe out all life. Check out Genesis 9:8-17, particularly verses 11 and 15.

There's a passage somewhere in Isaiah (I think) which talks about a destruction of the Earth that sounds a lot like nuclear war. Or perhaps methane fireballs.

There must be something in the human condition that makes us crave scary stories.

Mel Brooks, where are you? There is more than enough material here for one of your movies.

With all the rising ocean levels how can there be widespread droughts around the world. Does not BC receive a lot of rain and Toronto get lake effect snow. If the prairie farmers got 7 more frost free days a year their production, grades and maybe profits would rise drammatically.
Suckookee and friends should quit scaring the uninformed. Why do they do it, for profit of course.
More money for the foundation means more tours for Dave. another rich greedy socialist!

Anyone got the joke re why Noah can't build an ark today. I lost it when I crashed last summer.
Some of the reasons Noah told God, when asked why he had not rebuilt an ark.
Couldn't get a zoning permit, building permit, building site, etc. Too much red tape.

This guy is such a tinfoil hat moonbat that I hate wasting my time on this but...

One of his brilliant observations is that the oceans lose there oxygen because of warming. A quick search on Google turns up a handy dandy oxygen saturation calculator.

At 10 degrees C water has 11.3 mg/l O2
At 20 degrees C water has 9.15 mg/l

Hardly "losing" oxygen, and note these would have to be average. If the average ocean temp warms up a few degrees...who cares.

I went snorkelling in the very warm water off Hawaii, and amazingly enough there was enough oxygen to support a huge fish population.

Mary, you can google it. Singerman.wordpress has it on a clean site.

Further evidence that environmental studies are nothing more than studies in B.S. - Bovine Scatology

Oh it gets even worse for climate fear mongers.

The people of Judeo-Christian persuasion are on theologically "sound ground" by claiming they are the FIRST ENVIRONMENTALISTS!!

All you atheists, and agnostics can take a number the Judeo-Christians got there first.

Nah, nah, nah!!

Hey, talk about "stealing their thunder"!!

Surly,you asked earlier on,why proffessional reporter couldn't find info you found..how can you expect them to do the difficult stuff,when a supposed respected prominent G&M reporter(Galloway) who appears regularly on t.v.,does lots of political commentary..makes a huge issue about a supposed "cover-up" of statue?? She did zero research,or would have found that Libs also guilty of same thing.Most offensive..the article still up on G&M site,and Lib commentators still believe!Why NO retraction/correction to story??

mary T.
The Noah story was printed in the "Taxpayer" paper that is mailed to CTF members. It might be available on their website taxpayer.com

It's true, Galloway and others are reliant on Liberal feeds for information. We saw the result of such lazy reporting yesterday.

It's so exciting to learn that Jack Layton has asked
Al Gore, Environmental Guru of great self importance, to speak to our Parliament.
Not sure about protocol, but where would Jacko get the authority to do the invite?

Preposterous hysteria

Bird farting has been documented to contribute greatly to global warming. No, it's not a joke. Birds are small, but have you ever smelled a chickadee fart?

To do my part, I will add Beano to their bird seed from now on. Anything to stop the fireballs, the thought of which is keeping my dogs up all night.

temperature during the Cretaceous was 11.2°F warmer than present.

from the surly link.

No crap it was warmer did you ever see a fuzzy dinosaur.

Forgot; Just FYI..

a bit of backgrounder on the hoaxer who wrote the climate fear mongering article for the Indi

(Mark Lynus) has a typical profile for his politics...like most of the really fanatic Climate hysterics (as we see on confirmed on Suzuki's foundation blog staff) this guy has no formal scietific training or degrees and comes from a journalist/marketing/left-activist background....and strangely enough has several enviro-doomsday fictional novels on the market.

Do a google search on him and have fun kids.

...I think you'll find a good deal of the loudest promoters of "shock science" have the same background...non scientific and either journalism and/or marketing and certainly global socialist politics

...and we make derrogatory "Lawyer jokes" with this lot available for a well needed public stigmatizing ;-)

Did you ever see the pilot movie to VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA where a freak global warming event is cuased when the VAN ALEIN BELT is ignited by a FREAK METEOR SHOWER and they put it out with a NUCULAR MISSLE

Seeing as all these apocalyptic messages are coming from celebrities, and are therefore sacrosanct, isn't it about time we all started living for ourselves, in the present, for the moment?

Don't pay any taxes, or bills, esp, utilities, run up your credit to the max, then apply for more. Rape, pillage, steal, loot, plunder,kill, then rape some more!

Why bother with civilization, if we're all going to be drowned or immolated in methane fireballs.
First off, let's lynch Suzuki, Strong, and Gore.

Let the deluge begin.

As someone already posted, garbage in, garbage out.

So what they're reporting is that with global warming the Canadians will emerge victorious over the rest of mankind? Sounds good to me.

Why keep Canada cold?

Thanks for the tips re the Noah story. Hope all of you have gone to read it.

And it came to pass that in the time when Al Obewan-Gore had prophesied the green fireballs racing across the sky, and moreover in the time of the Child of Doom (the little punk in the grey robe that Kate posted a week or two ago), the Apocalypse fell upon Mankind.

And in such an era of darkness created by the evil neo-con Troglydites that a Sanctified champion came riding from the Northern Lands.

His tunic was of crimson, his cloak of royal purple, his undergarment a tunic of the whitest purity of chastity. (OK, lose the white tunic, sign of chastity.) Only one who had pulled the sword from the stone could challenge the evil Troglydites and carry out the will of the Prophet...

It was indeed Sir Justin, son of Margaret, from the inimitable House of Trudeau.

The evil neo-con Troglydites shrank in fear (they actually said, "Hey, who's the punk?").

And when the Minstrels of the Land (the press) asked him what manner of self-sacrifice could cause one such as he to ride forth on behalf of the people, he looked down from his white stallion and said he wanted to bring a little "nobility" into politics.

And so it came to pass that the LUGs at McGill University (Lesbian Until Graduation) were able to join other women of the Liberal Party in discarding their undergarments for a life of true fulfillment, dedicated to Sir Justin, son of Margaret, as they paraded to the ballot box.

(The Prophet Al Obewan-Gore wasn't thinking much about all this, because he was in L.A. awaiting his likely Academy Award.)

Luckily we in pristine Canada are protected from the heathen global warming fanatics because we have Liberal laws against the 'spreading of false news'.

Suzuki should not get too carried away with his recent 'midlife' crisis.

All the above global changes were gradual and mankind adapted, as always, without a sweat.

Sadly this adaptation never came about.

Ahmadinejad pushed his nuke argument and mankind succumbed to global poisoning.

Gore said, drat! No Oscar. = TG

Thanks for the Beano in birdfeed tip,Bird Dog.You think chickadee farts smell...I got great big whiskeyjack,stinkers to deal with!Just got finished shovelling about an acre of 5in.freshly fallen "global warming"..hauled a bunch of CUT DOWN TREES,and ran my suv for an hr.to melt the ice off!!! I feel better already,and I did it just to counteract Suzuki poisoning those babies minds.Gee,I'm female,and had to do all that hard work myself..surely to God,I could have got a Pinkbook grant,and faked helplessness.Hmmm,note to self:call Judy Sgro,Maria minna,and Belinda to complain!

A 3.4 degree increase will cause the Amazonian rainforest to burn "in a firestorm of catastrophic ferocity"???

Do they really think anyone believes that all you need is 17-18 degrees to start a fire? I just love the doomsday wording throughout.

Morons.

where's orson wells when you need him ?

This doom and gloom castrophism is just getting to be so hilarious. I propose we start a competition for the top-10 funniest clima-scares of the year. We should have a lot of qualified candidates to choose from.

I'm reminded of Gulliver's travels to Laputa in Jonathan Swift's famous book. Gulliver's Laputa is actually an island floating in the air hundreds of feet above the earth's surface. The Laputans are very learned people, counting music, mathemathics and astronomy among their arts.

However, the Laputans are completely incapable of applying their advanced learning to practical problems. As an example of their inepitude, Gulliver describes how they measure him for a new suit of clothes, measuring his height with a sextant and his waist, arm and leg measurements with a compass and ruler. After performing some advanced trigonometry calculations (needlesss to say that they screw it up!!), the result was that they "in six days brought my clothes very ill made, and quite out of shape".

Now it must be that those given to lofty thoughts and no real ability to apply them in real-world situations are predisposed to paranoic catastrophe, as this is what Swift wrote about the Laputans:

"These people are under continual disquietudes, never enjoying a minutes peace of mind; and their disturbances proceed from causes which very little affect the rest of mortals. Their apprehensions arise from several changes they dread in the celestial bodies: for instance, that the earth, by the continual approaches of the sun towards it, must, in course of time, be absorbed, or swallowed up; that the face of the sun, will, by degrees, be encrusted with its own effluvia, and give no more light to the world; that the earth very narrowly escaped a brush from the tail of the last comet, which would have infallibly reduced it to ashes; and that the next, which they have calculated for one-and-thirty years hence, will probably destroy us. For if, in its perihelion, it should approach within a certain degree of the sun (as by their calculations they have reason to dread) it will receive a degree of heat ten thousand times more intense than that of red hot glowing iron, and in its absence from the sun, carry a blazing tail ten hundred thousand and fourteen miles long, through which, if the earth should pass at the distance of one hundred thousand miles from the nucleus, or main body of the comet, it must in its passage be set on fire, and reduced to ashes: that the sun, daily spending its rays without any nutriment to supply them, will at last be wholly consumed and annihilated; which must be attended with the destruction of this earth, and of all the planets that receive their light from it.

They are so perpetually alarmed with the apprehensions of these, and the like impending dangers, that they can neither sleep quietly in their beds, nor have any relish for the common pleasures and amusements of life. When they meet an acquaintance in the morning, the first question is about the sun’s health, how he looked at his setting and rising, and what hopes they have to avoid the stroke of the approaching comet. This conversation they are apt to run into with the same temper that boys discover in delighting to hear terrible stories of spirits and hobgoblins, which they greedily listen to, and dare not go to bed for fear."

The Independent -- "independent" of what -- reason? Great quote Richard Saunders. I think we have to start saving some of these pieces in an archive so that we can feed them back to their authors twenty years from now when they spout their next round of bogus nonsense. Though I doubt it will quell the ardour of these authors, it may, hopefully, quell the sycophancy of their followers.

Richard Saunders at Feb 24, 6:33 pm.

Your extract from Gulliver says it all. It shouldn't be necessary to add the translation for the Spanish name of Gulliver's airborne island, but I will anyway. Laputa = the whore.

Does that make all the modern-day doomsayers pimps?

Johann Suzuki Sells Indulgences; a Sermon. ...-

Behold, you are on the raging sea of the world in storm and danger, not knowing if you will safely reach the harbor of salvation. Do you not know that everything which man has hangs on a thin thread and that all of life is but a struggle on earth? Let us then fight, as did Lawrence and the other saints, for the day it is well, but ill tomorrow. Today alive and tomorrow dead.

You should know that all who confess and in penance put alms into the coffer according to the counsel of the confessor, will obtain complete remission of all their sins. If they visit, after confession and after the Jubilee, the Cross and the altar every day they will receive that indulgence which would be theirs upon visiting in St. Peter's the seven altars, where complete indulgence is offered. Why are you then standing there? Run for the salvation of your souls! Be as careful and concerned for the salvation of your souls as you are for your temporal goods, which you seek both day and night. Seek the Lord while he may be found and while he is near. Work, as St. John says, while it it yet day, for the night comes when no man can work. ...-
http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/tetzel.htm

Cool.

ya, and know what gonna happen after the polar melt and rising seas and methane fart flames?

another 50 million +/- years and a whoooooole new line of species takes over, one of which may or may not get to the moon and much to their amazement find the remnants of the apollo missions.

and thats about it. the legacy of humanity.

That's it - I'm to the humanoid cause. To that end I've developed a carbon credit certificate. It's free, so no one can't say they can't afford it. The number of tons, name and date is editable ... no excuse for anyone. Print up one for your loved ones, pets, etc ... cheap enough to print for your not-so-loved ones. Particularly striking if printed on green paper.

www.zubc.info/carbon.pdf

I'm going to help ...

Kate's software only takes what I typed - not what I meant to type.

It is interesting to note that Suzuki is a smart guy, some may not like it, never-the-less it is true.
It is quite possible that he'd outgrown his religion at an early age, if he ever had any.
In spite of his formidable intellectual qualities, he has found himself a new religious fervor in the warming that is caused by little us, which by the way is very welcome in these northern cold parts of the planet.
It seems that Suzuki had another trip some years ago when this crowd, they called themselves, The Club of Rome, were predicting collapse of world economy in the late 70' or early 80's if I'm not mistaken. I distinctly remember this quote 'If you are on a ship and see an iceberg, if you don't slow down you are going to crash it', this is somewhat paraphrased though he used the ship analogy.
The whole deal was about limits to growth.
As soon as people got the grasp of it, the largest boom in history began and with some blinks here and there, is still on.

Dr. Suzuki,

When the story first came out about a P-38 recovery from beneath 300 feet of ice on Greenland, I followed it with much interest.

www.thelostsquadron.com

But, I'm also wondering, in light of growing concern regarding global warming how this could be when the ice caps, as you say, have been shrinking? Your expertise in this matter would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, and I look forward to your response.

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No response - but it would be fun to see the veins bulge out his neck if I asked him this in person.

I heard him on an audioclip, going berzerk, ranting and raving, then storming out of his interview on the John Oakley show after a question regarding the skepticism among some scientists on the subject of GW. This guy is a scientist??

Bolshevik: "It is interesting to note that Suzuki is a smart guy, some may not like it, never-the-less it is true."

Maybe ... maybe not. Does an actor playing Einstein know what Einstein knew? Did Einstein know what the actor knows?

Suzuki, at the expense of taxpayers, became a public figure. He decided to push his own political agenda, giving up his impartiality. He just became another climate change whore for his pimp Mo Strong.

Agreed to last paragraph.

Here, for your entertainment, is a copy of a post that I recently put up on dr. suzuki's beloved desmogblog:
VJ, a geneticist is also not a climatologist. Ian, what is the point of any discussion with you if all you can do is resort to name calling? I have many choice names for Dr. Suzuki and your beloved CBC, but what is the point? The truth is that I have no direct evidence against AGW and you have no direct evidence for it. The only way to get direct evidence would be to have two earths and eliminate mankind at about 1500 AD in one case and leave things as they have been in the other. Of course this is impossible. We do have indirect evidence that shows that the current rates of climate change easily fit in with what has happened on this planet in the past. In fact there have been several instances where the changes have been much more abrupt than what we are currently experienceing. Regarding climate change modeling and simulations, why do you expect me to believe what the current models are predicting? If you look at three periods of time - 1900 - 2000, 1940-1970, and 1970-2005, you will find that the current simulations all predict the wrong outcome for all three of these periods. The temperatures actually dropped globally from 1940-1970 when you eliminate the heat island affect (that is why everyone was so freaked out about global cooling in the 1970's). For 1970 to 2005, the models over estimated the increase by tenfold. So why do you expect me to believe them for a fourth period of time. Repeating the same course of action over and over and expecting a different outcome is a definition of insanity! I took a computer course last semester and learned a bit about simulations and found that the usefulness of a simulation depends on the accuracy, depth, and validity of the various input parameters. Obviously, this is lacking with current climate simulations. Thanks for your interactions. I cannot do any more posting here since I have a life; wife, three kids, and a chem mid term next week. I know I will not change anyone's mind here and you will definitely not change mine. Its kind of sad to see what I call the 'ghettoization' of the internet and blogging. The internet is full of little groups of people that have their own interests and opinions that huddle together to prognosticate and stroke each other for their group wisdom and 'righteousness'. Every once in a while a 'kamikaze' person jumps in (like myself in this case), stirs the pot, and then disappears, leaving behind fodder for the faithful to feed upon. I am not necessarily just criticizing you and your group, this of course also happens in right leaning sections of the blogosphere. Cheers, Eric
ps. You will all probably be REALLY happy to know that I live on an acreage and heat a 30' by 50' shop and a 1600 square foot house with a walk out basement with a COAL fired hot water heating system! About 25 t coal per year, shame, shame. This should fuel your righteous indignation for at least a few days!

"methane fireballs tear across the sky"???

You people don't belive this? Well, then I beg to disagree.

If you have ever been down in the south side of Nogales, Sonora and spent the evening eating bean burritos, refried beans and that yellow sauce that comes with them, and chasing it all with tequila shooters and Mexican beer, you would KNOW all about methane fireballs that tear across the sky.

How bad can it get, you ask. Well... it's got eveyone running for the border!

"We find that CO2 emissions resulting from (mid-Cretaceous) super-plume tectonics could have produced atmospheric CO2 levels from 3.7 to 14.7 times the modern pre-industrial value of 285 ppm. (...) this would cause a global warming of from 2.8 to 7.7 degrees C over today's global mean temperature."
Geophys Res Lett. 1991 Jun;18(6):987-90.

The Cretaceous was a period of great biological diversity that produced, among others, the many species of dinosaurs. The party was ended by a meteorite that caused global COOLING. In other words, life on Earth loves heat.

These lies are spread by UN thieves who want us to send our tax money to their friend$ in Africa.