Yep. Somebody should have dropped thousands of copies of The Mouse That Roared (dubbed in Vietnamese) on Saigon.

Communism ROCKS!

What was the name of that Peter Sellers Movie...?

Vietnam did not beat the Americans, the peaceniks and the lefties beat the Americans from within.

Peter Sellers movie.

The Mouse that Roared. The Duchy of Grand Fenwick decides to go to war with US in order to get aid.
Sellers plays half the characters.The Duchess looks like Stephane Dion with a crown.

what ARE the dippers/dems/libs/moonbats going to do when GWB is gone? who on earth are they going to blame for all of their roids, pimples, gas prices and kid's problems? if the yanx completely pull out of Iraq, it will make nam(one of my best buds did 2 tours in nam/Canadian volunteer) look like a cake walk....the death toll would be staggering...interesting days ahead

pete: Vietnam did not beat the Americans. Actually, the Americans won. The purpose of being in Vietnam was two fold: to prevent a Communist takeover and more importantly to prevent Communist expansion in the region. They had to quit the battle of Vietnam but prevented a Communist domination of that SE Asia. As a result that area of Asia is prospering with the Free Enterprise system in place. This from a former PM of Singapore. I forget his name.
Visitors to Vietnam say the economic difference between north and south is staggering.

Gunney99:

Lee Kwon Yew

In 1970, Thailand and South Vietnam had more or less equivalent standards of living. If anything, South Vietnam was a bit further ahead. Compare the two countries now. The Vietnam war gave Thailand a breathing space to develop a modern economy without having to fight a home-grown communist insurgency. In Vietnam a quarter of the population still makes ends meet by selling lottery tickets or trinkets on the street. If you get sick, you have to pay your own doctor and hospital bills. There are no paid annual vacations. And that's just a start. There are a few US ex-pats, married to Vietnamese women, whom I have met in Saigon. I asked them which hospital they would go to if they got seriously ill. The usual response was, 'If you get really sick, take a taxi to the airport and catch the first plane to Bangkok'.

"what ARE the dippers/dems/libs/moonbats going to do when GWB is gone?"

The better question is what are they going to do if the coalition and Iraqi forces are successful in putting down the insurgency and establishing the rule of law.

more technicalities:

the americans pretty much left the situation to the southern administration in around 1973 much to the consternation of nguyen van thieu.

2 years later the chopper-on-the-embassy-roof scene happens.

americans didnt 'lose' the vietnam war because they werent there at the time to 'lose' it.

they gave it over to the south before that happened.

I was an enlisted man in the US Air Force when Saigon fell to the Communists.

At that time, I was serving at in a B-52 wing stationed in California. By the base flight line, there was a large building with a lot of technical and mechanical shops, where I worked. I vividly remember standing in a coffee shop in the building that had a large screen TV on the wall, watching the evacuation from the US Embassy roof, along with a lot of other men.

The group was composed of a whole lot of Air Force men, many of who had done at least one or two tours in Vietnam or elsewhere in Southeast Asia. A few of them had even brought home Vietnamese, Thai or Filipino wives.

Everyone watched in grim silence. Other than the TV newsman's commentary, you could have heard a pin drop in the coffee shop.

Most of the men watched for a few minutes, then walked away, with looks of either anger or sadness on their faces. It was an intense experience I'll never forget.