Open thread for reader tips. Feel free to flog your own blog posts, as well.
I would like to bring to your attention the plight of Dr. Oscar Biscet, a Cuban dissident, fighting for his life in jail. He is a Christian, a human rights activist and a pro-lifer. He was sentenced to 25 years in jail for a number of crimes, one of which was flying the Cuban flag upside down.
There is a movement to free Dr. Biscet. Cuban jails make Guantanmo look like a luxury hotel. The food is inedible and the health care is inadequate. The families must bring food and medicine for the prisoners to survive.
Please Read this article and pass on the news. Biscet is one of Cuba's leading dissidents, but the mainstream media has hardly breathed a word about it. He is fighting the good fight in oppressive conditions, even having gone to jail and been tortured for his quest for freedom.
And please blog about it if you can!
Posted by: SUZANNE at March 5, 2007 7:54 AMThe main thing Biscet has in common with thousands of others incarcerated/tortured/executed by Fidel over the past 48 years is that the MSM didn't report on them either.
Posted by: John L at March 5, 2007 8:23 AMMore Goreacle: Do as I say; not as I do. ...-
Seal hunt film snares activists
MIKE DE SOUZA, CanWest News Service
Published: Monday, March 05, 2007
Animal-rights activists are outraged they were caught on tape ignoring a dying seal for more than an hour in a documentary on Canada's commercial seal hunt, Quebec filmmaker Raoul Jomphe said.
The anti-seal-hunt activists were filming a promotional segment for a fundraising campaign when the incident occurred, he said.
Jomphe said Rebecca Aldworth, the Canadian director of wildlife issues for the Humane Society of the United States, called him to complain after she discovered he had captured the incident on film.
"She was really mad at me," Jomphe said.
That made him question her tactics as he put together his documentary, which examines the annual spring hunt in Atlantic Canada.
"I find it to be hypocritical," Jomphe said, after a special screening of the movie -Phoques, le film (Seals, the Movie) - last week at the federal Department of Fisheries and Oceans.
In the documentary - which is scheduled to air this month on the CBC's French-language all-news network, RDI, and Atlantic Radio-Canada stations - theanimal rights activists pulled the dying seal out of the water as it tried to escape, and continued filming their promotional video. It is not known for sure how the seal came to be wounded....-
http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=f646ccd2-192d-42b5-a930-890cfef85905
(via Bourque)
Watch for the enormous repercussions of this little story over the next decade or so -
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/03/070302082821.htm
Posted by: Alan at March 5, 2007 8:26 AMI got nothin'
Posted by: S. Weasel at March 5, 2007 8:34 AMFighting against media misinformation about our Troops...
http://ruxted.ca/
Pressitutes beware.
Posted by: Zip at March 5, 2007 9:15 AMRe: There is a movement to free Dr. Biscet.
For six decades the civilized west has been unable to assuage the atrocities occuring in Cuba. My heart bleeds for the courage and self-sacrifice of fighters such as Dr. Biscet, and all those throughout the world and history who have put themselves in harms way in the fight against evil. I thank God to have been born in the best of times in the best of places.
Suzanne, what are you expecting of us? letter writing, sending money? We can do both, but it all seems so useless. The oppressed world needs its own "French Revolution". That was after all the most civilizing moment in modern Western history. Can it ever happen again?
Alan, thanks for that fascinating post. That invention holds tremendous implications in many areas. I hope Rensselaer got a good, airtight patent on that-it could make them billion$.
Posted by: Dave at March 5, 2007 9:24 AMRight now, the best thing to do, in my opinion, is publicize the story. If you post on a message board or on an email list, pass the story along.
http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/climate_change/article2328821.ece
Gee, apparently there's a downside to the ethanol bandwagon.
Posted by: dmorris at March 5, 2007 9:41 AMSUZANNE...have you tried getting a hold of Justin Trudeau. I understand that the Turdeau family are good friends with Fidel Castro and would surely be able to get him to stop torturing and wrongfully imprisoning people including Dr. Biscet. I think it would be interesting to see the media cover what the long time trudeau friend is up to and what the Turdeau familia is willing to do to. Then again I could be wrong...maybe the trudeau family are typical libranos and are only concerned with power.
Posted by: johnboy at March 5, 2007 10:01 AMKeeping up with the Electric car and the battery types that make them possible.
TonyGuitar.blogspot.com
Posted by: TG at March 5, 2007 10:01 AMMark Steyn has excellent article on Conrad Black in Macleans
http://www.macleans.ca/homepage/magazine/article.jsp?content=20070312_103140_103140
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But beyond the losses to investors in two countries and readers on three continents are more basic questions. What has been done to Hollinger International is astonishing, and has very worrying implications for anyone with a public company in the United States: Hollinger International was not an Enron or WorldCom -- a failing business of worthless properties fleecing its employees' retirement plans. The most that can be said against it was that it had a sluggish stock price. Yet, on that basis, courts and regulators have removed a company from its lawful controlling shareholders and delivered it into the hands of a small group of usurpers with no equity in the business, who sidelined the owners and proceeded to gut the enterprise, sell off the assets and even change the corporate name, all the while compensating themselves on as lavish a scale as the allegedly profligate regime the courts and regulators used to justify the usurpation. If this is "corporate governance," let's cut to the chase and adopt relatively straightforward Afro-Marxist confiscation.
cbc interviewing the son of Jim Jones, re a new documentary coming out re the Jonestown Massacre.
All those kyotologists should watch this and pay attention to what happens to those who follow an ideology without thought. This happened in 1978, so many of the followers of gore and suzuki probably don't even know about it.
Could it happen again-yes, when people are led by fear and anger and manipulation- says Jim Jones son.
The documentary will show on Vision tv, next week.
Mary T....that is an excellent comparison to the followers of Gorizuki. People that follow this scam tend to be simple minded people who desperately want to belong to a movement and feel like they are capable of doing something significant in their insignificant lives.
Posted by: johnboy at March 5, 2007 10:30 AMBefore anyone says all the kyotologists are not in one place, so it couldn't happen, there was another cult that committed suicide en masse, with some of the victims found in Quebec. Can't remember the name, or where the rest were. Then there was also Wacko. BBC is doing a documentary to show that algore is out to lunch.
Posted by: mary T. at March 5, 2007 10:44 AM~~ THE BIG GREEN FUEL LIE ~~
"... One estimate is that corn needs 30 per cent MORE energy than the finished fuel it produces. "
//news.independent.co.uk/environment/climate_change/article2328821.ece
The Hoax that is the so-called bio-fuels.
Next Solar (will believe the "no-reflective invention when it is up and running)
Wind power costs twice hydro, coal, ect.
Kyoto and it's carbon credit scam,... and on and on.
Did someone mention Jimmy Jones ?? The power of cults is amazing. Even so-called green ones.
Posted by: B. Hoax Aware at March 5, 2007 10:48 AMhttp://ruxted.ca/
Exposing ignorance in Canadian military affairs
Pressitutes and liars beware!
Posted by: Zip at March 5, 2007 10:51 AMSelfless plug... But I do think we should be talking about the Martinsville by-election today.
http://fightingbackinsovietsaskatchewan.blogspot.com/
Posted by: deaninregina at March 5, 2007 10:56 AM3w.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1466943.ece
Big brother?? or excessive state paranoia:
"March 04, 2007
Children of 11 to be fingerprinted David Leppard
CHILDREN aged 11 to 16 are to have their fingerprints taken and stored on a secret database, internal Whitehall documents reveal.
The leaked Home Office plans show that the mass fingerprinting will start in 2010, with a batch of 295,000 youngsters who apply for passports.
Under the new passport and ID scheme, everyone over 16 who applies for a passport will have their details — including fingerprints and eye or facial scans — added to the National Identity Register from next year.
From October 2009, ID cards will be issued alongside new passports. Initially these will not be mandatory, but Tony Blair has said that if Labour is reelected it will make them compulsory
Children under 16 will not be part of the ID card scheme. But the documents show that from 2010 they will still have to be fingerprinted for a new passport. "
A VOICE OF REASON:
" David Davis, the shadow home secretary, said: “This borders on the sinister and it shows the government is trying to end the presumption of innocence. With the fingerprinting of all our children, this government is clearly determined to enforce major changes in the relationship between the citizen and the state in a way never seen before.”
>>> Totally agree...in the civil relationship between government and a citizen in a constitutional democracy under rule of law...presuption of innocence is a civil right...this is why only CONVICTED criminals have their fingerprints kept on file...to fingerprint an entire nation and make it manditory to cary bio metric ID the state has broken faith with constitutional civil liberties and the roll of the citizen...an un fingerprinted and tracked person is a citizen...a finger printed and tracked person is a ward of the state or a prisoner/slave.
Hoax,
Any of the hoax fuels like corn - E85 and re- refined restaurant fats and oils are going to get a short run until the Electric car ends it all, simply because they do displace some fossil fuel imports. = TG
Posted by: TG at March 5, 2007 11:05 AM*
It's alive!!! The poll that the Eco-nauts at Suzuki.org
thought they had slain, once again rears it's ugly,
politically incorrect head...
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Posted by: neo at March 5, 2007 11:05 AMOr there could be a documentary called: Phoque..the seal.
Posted by: jimbola at March 5, 2007 11:05 AMMary T,
Similarly, is this article by Michael Crichton, who parallels the popular acceptance of 'eugenics theory' (and it's horrifying result) in the early 20th century to the GW hysteria we see today.
Posted by: Mark R at March 5, 2007 11:27 AMOops! forgot to post the link.
Posted by: Mark R at March 5, 2007 11:28 AMThe Fiends of Medicare will be spinning in their walkers over this column.
3w.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/editorial/outlook/4601334.html
"Don't look to Canada for the best fix on healthcare" She says what I have been trying to say for years now. Dead Tommy be damned. There are many better healthcare systems out there that Canada could look to or model in order to fix the system because it really is broke.
Come on by www.roadhammer.blogspot.com for my daily digest which provides a look between the headlines, and also for a review of the Dixie Chicks' documentary "Shut Up and Sing", among other things.
Posted by: Road Hammer at March 5, 2007 11:43 AMpaladin said:"The oppressed world needs its own "French Revolution". That was after all the most civilizing moment in modern Western history." ...-
The above is pure, unadulterated bhjjdfyt.
Robespierre and Mao: The evil progeny of the "French Revolution" here: Hell on Earth. ...-
John Kekes
Words to Die By
A new series resurrects some of history’s bloodiest manifestos.
Maximilien Robespierre led the phase of the French Revolution called the Terror. It lasted a little over a year. He gave the orders that resulted in beheading, drowning, shooting, or burying alive about 20,000 men, women, and children. Mao Zedong ruled China between 1949 and his death in 1976. During his tenure, his followers murdered, on a low estimate, 20 million people. These two men were among the handful of great mass murderers of modern times, in the same class as Hitler, Lenin, Pol Pot, and Stalin.
Both Robespierre and Mao seized control of and radicalized revolutions that they did not start. In each case, the revolution destroyed the previous corrupt regime and replaced it with hell on earth. ...-
http://www.city-journal.org/html/rev2007-02-20jk.html
More Hell on Earth:
SUICIDE FOR SOCIALISM?
- Maurice Brinton
Part One
THE RELEVANCE OF JONESTOWN
'We're gonna die for the revolution. We're gonna die to expose this racist and fascist society. It's good to die in this great revolutionary suicide.' The words uttered by two young men in Jonestown (Guyana) a few minutes before they, together with hundreds of others, poisoned themselves were reported in the Los Angeles Times (November 26, 1978) by Charles Garry of San Francisco, attorney for the Peoples Temple. Garry was no critic of this particular cult. He was the trendy leftist lawyer who, referring to the Guyana commune, had written in the Peoples Forum, journal of the Temple: 'I have seen Paradise'. ...-
uncarved .org
The Kyoto cost count/temperature result is up now and running...clicking off the cost-benefit effect of Kyoto klepto-environmentalism
http://www.junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/Kyoto_Count_Up.html
"And in these volatile times, the PM singling out a brown-skinned man in a turban during a discussion about terrorism makes for some troubling optics."
Why can't PM Harper be more like Jimmy Carter, Stephen Lewis, Bob Rae, and.... Jean Chretien and AlGore ... and AdScam Paul Martin, Jr., and AdScam Alfonso Gagliano and AdScam Citoyen Dion... and ...
Answer: Harper is a bully and a racist. ...-
Harper's a bad boy
http://www.torontosun.com/News/Columnists/Giese_Rachel/2007/03/05/3698542-sun.html
A friend e-mailed me this item.As a firearms owner & not a michael moore fan,thought I would share.
DARRELL SCOTT TESTIMONY:
Guess our national leaders didn't expect this, him?
On Thursday, Darrell Scott, the father of Rachel Scott, a victim of the Columbine High School shootings in Littleton , Colorado , was invited to address the House Judiciary Committee's subcommittee. What he said to our national leaders during this special session of Congress was painfully truthful.
They were not prepared for what he was to say, nor was it received well.
It needs to be heard by every parent, every teacher, every politician, every sociologist, every psychologist, and every so-called expert!
These courageous words spoken by Darrell Scott are powerful, penetrating, and deeply personal. There is no doubt that God sent this man as a voice crying in the wilderness.
The following is a portion of the transcript:
"Since the dawn of creation there has been both good and evil in the hearts of men and women. We all contain the seeds of kindness or the seeds of violence. The death of my wonderful daughter, Rachel Joy Scott, and the deaths of that heroic teacher, and the other eleven children who died must not be in vain. Their blood cries out for answers.
"The first recorded act of violence was when Cain slew his brother Abel out in the field.
The villain was not the club he used. Neither was it the NCA, the National Club Association.
The true killer was Cain, and the reason for the murder could only be found in Cain's heart.
"In the days that followed the Columbine tragedy, I was amazed at how quickly fingers began to be pointed at groups such as the NRA.
I am not a member of the NRA. I am not a hunter. I do not even own a gun. I am not here to represent or defend the NRA - because I don't believe that they are responsible for my daughter's death. Therefore I do not believe that they need to be defended. If I believed they had anything to do with Rachel's murder I would be their strongest opponent.
I am here today to declare that Columbine was not just a tragedy--it was a spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the real blame lies! Much of the blame lies here in this room. Much of the blame lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves. "I wrote a poem just four nights ago that expresses my feelings best. This was written before I knew I would be speaking here today:
Your laws ignore our deepest needs,
Your words are empty air.
You've stripped away our heritage,
You've outlawed simple prayer.
Now gunshots fill our classrooms,
And precious children die.
You seek for answers everywhere,
And ask the question "Why?"
You regulate restrictive laws,
Through legislative creed.
And yet you fail to understand,
That God is what we need!
"Men and women are three-part beings. We all consist of body, mind, and spirit. When we refuse to acknowledge a third part of our make-up, we create a void that allows evil, prejudice, and hatred to rush in and reek havoc.
Spiritual presences were present within our educational systems for most of our nation's history. Many of our major colleges began as theological seminaries. This is a historical fact.
What has happened to us as a nation? We have refused to honor God, and in so doing, we open the doors to hatred and violence.
And when something as terrible as Columbine's tragedy occurs -- politicians immediately look for a scapegoat such as the NRA.
They immediately seek to pass more restrictive laws that contribute to erode away our personal and private liberties. We do not need more restrictive laws.
Eric and Dylan would not have been stopped by metal detectors.
No amount of gun laws can stop someone who spends months planning this type of massacre. The real villain lies within our own hearts.
"As my son Craig lay under that table in the school library and saw his two friends murdered before his very eyes--He did not hesitate to pray in school.
I defy any law or politician to deny him that right! I challenge every young person inAmerica, and around the world, to realize that on April 20, 1999, at Columbine High School prayer was brought back to our schools.
Do not let the many prayers offered by those students be in vain.
Dare to move into the new millennium with a sacred disregard for legislation that violates your God-given right to communicate with Him. To those of you who would point your finger at the NRA-- I give to you a sincere challenge.
Dare to examine your own heart before casting the first stone!
My daughter's death will not be in vain!
The young people of this country will not allow that to happen!"
(Amen Amen - br)
Do what the media did not - - let the nation hear this man's speech
http://www.channel4.com/science/microsites/G/great_global_warming_swindle/index.html
The Great Global Warming Swindle
Do you think CBC might *ever* air something so pertinent to the global warming debate?
Posted by: markpeters.ca at March 5, 2007 12:34 PMSome time ago I defended Jordan Michael Smith, despite a rather patronizing editorial about the west. I defended him on the grounds that he is not beyond hope. His latest editorial demonstrates what I mean:
http://www.ottawasun.com/News/Columnists/Smith_Jordan_Michael/2007/03/05/3698278.html
Posted by: Karl at March 5, 2007 12:42 PMLancet study may have overestimated iraqi deaths by around 600 000:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article1469636.ece
Posted by: Dave at March 5, 2007 12:48 PMWaiting for Big Government; a quest for fool's gold.
Why doesn't the government do something? Well, government has; look around you. ...-
Smiths Falls Pleads For Government Jobs
Officials from the town of Smiths Falls are asking the Ontario government to help replace hundreds of jobs vanishing with the closure of the community's Hershey chocolate factory. (national newswatch)
...-
Gatineau women wait up to 5 months for breast cancer test
Hospital needs seven to 10 more X-ray technicians: health authority (cbc)
Posted by: maz2 at March 5, 2007 1:11 PMrobert Latimer, a Canadian farmer languishes in jail while Canadian activists try to right the oppressions of others thruout the world.
He has 4 years left of his 10 year sentence for doing a mercy killing of lhis 12 year old quadraplegic daughter who was in constant pain and the medical profession was going to do lfurther operations for experimental purposes on her. He lhad the kguts to do lwhat I know should have been done but I wouldn't have the guts. Latimer did and ktold the authorities.
Our justice sywstem is a kljoke. a man with 56 praevious convictions was discharged as the judge said he didn't think kljail would do any good. Twio murderers in quebec were just discharged on a technicality. the aiar india whitewash saw the murder of over 300 people and the liberals aquashed further investigation.
So Latimer, by god we will make him pay as Canadians when it comes down to it are sheep like and don't much care for llthere own if they aren"t immigrant arabs. We give Arer 111/2 million for being a year in a jail we didn't send him to but by god that klfarmer has got to lpay, what is 10 years, especially when the wife and kids you are supposed to support can live on air. I am kashamed of klSask kpeople who let this travesty carry on
Not really a "reader tip" in the strict sense of the word, but a very interesting blog post nonetheless. Read about "The Men Who Saved Quebec" (note: poltically incorrect): http://www.andrewcusack.com/blog/2007/03/the_men_who_sav.php
Posted by: Juan Tolentino at March 5, 2007 1:19 PMWork will set you free.
a headline from CBCpravda
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/story/2007/03/05/workcamps-calgary.html
Greyburr, thanks for that post. It is so true.
It is strange that whenever tradegy stikes you get the talking heads asking How could God allow this to happen in a school. The answer is, it is the sp interest groups, legislators, etc who have taken God out of school. It is these groups that have said it is against their law to believe in God or show your faith. Can't say a prayer in school, before the game, at Christmas or in or on any public place. But, you can bend over backward to allow muslims to have prayer mats in jail, and their koran. But, they ban the bibles in hotel rooms. I often wonder if muslims are so religious, why do they end up in jail. Of course, if the politicians and sp interest groups had to accept that there are Christian values, or Jewish values, it would mean they have been wrong all these years in forcing their nonvalues on us. And, yes, they have forced their nonvalues on us via the CCP, SOWS, SCC. I think all the attempts to not offend anyone or anything, has offended more cdns than any other act by any govt.
As a young girl in school I envied all the jewish kids, they got way more school holidays than we did, and they also got all our holidays. Notice that the survivors of that bus crash all said they PRAYED during the ordeal. Survivors of the WTC said they PRAYED.
I'd categorize this one under "good intentions by a narcisistic rock star gone horribly wrong".
The "red" campaign intiated by Bono in support of the Global Fund for AIDS, TB and malaria has reportedly seen the partners of the intiative spend an estimated $50 to $$100 million on marketing costs...amount raised for the fund? $18 million.
Details at:
http://adage.com/article?article_id=115287
Posted by: Bruce at March 5, 2007 1:55 PM"Environmentalism is the new gay. All environmentalists are fabulous. It’s a wonderful way to be and no dissenting views will be tolerated. I predict that, pretty soon, a new word will be introduced to us. 'Envirophobia'....."
read more: http://imnotparanoid.blogspot.com/
Posted by: imnotparanoid at March 5, 2007 1:56 PMRe. greyburr: Wow... Pretty powerful.
Re. neilthompson: I agree with you that our justice system is screwed up, but in fact that's the nature of the beast. It's designed to be a corrective which intervenes when human beings freely chose to do wrong. The justice system is a perpetual mop up operation. Of course it's gonna be ugly. It just is. And of course it doesn't provide (or restore) justice. That's an impossible ideal. I'll go as far as to say the justice system merely exists as a placebo for justice. You might even say that it's a mechanism of societal restraint: we exact our pound of flesh, quench our thirst for revenge, and then move on. Prevents anarchy, etc. (Or whatever. I dunno....)
In the specific case of Latimer, yes it's tragic, but it can't be argued that he shouldn't be in jail. He's an admitted murderer. Brutal, unfair, tragic circumstances, true; but it's a much too slippery slope to conclude that murder can be okay under certain circumstances. Either it's wrong or it's not. And lest you get the wrong impression, don't think that I'm unsympathetic. I grieved for Latimer along with the rest of the world. But the standard cannot be to compare him to other criminals who have been set free by irresponsible hug-a-thug judges (of which there are far too many). The standard, pure and simple must always be right and wrong.
Posted by: Brad in Waterloo at March 5, 2007 1:56 PMOoops. Just realized I left my flank wide open with my unqualified "either murder is wrong or it's not" statement. There are ethical exceptions. I.e. when a police sharp shooter takes down a hostage-holding maniac. Etc.
I should also add that I don't want to address war in this part of the conversation since I don't consider battlefield killing to be synonymous with murder.
Posted by: Brad in Waterloo at March 5, 2007 2:04 PMThey have the news about Suzuki's poll on
Nationalnewswatch.com
Going back to the first post ... How is it possible to hang the Cuban flag upside down? It is symetrical. Not sure I trust that news source...
Posted by: cherenkov at March 5, 2007 2:24 PMThe poll is even on Bourque.com
Posted by: Linda at March 5, 2007 2:25 PMcherenkov:
The red triangle with the white star has to be on the hoist side of the flag. So it would be upside down if the triangle and star were on the free side of the flag.
Posted by: Reid at March 5, 2007 2:31 PMRe: the "The Independent" article on the costs of biofuels. (via National Newswatch)
It only took Dubya being _for_ something for the MSM to be against it, or at very least look at the costs involved. What else might this be applied to?
HOLY SMOKES!!
Go here and see Robert McLelland come out of the anti-semetic closet!!
http://myblahg.com/?p=1932#comments
He's even got Cherniak against him!
http://jasoncherniak.blogspot.com/
Posted by: Karl at March 5, 2007 3:11 PMReid: That's not exactly "upside down", but okay, I suppose with a little bit of sewing machine work you could fly the Cuban flag "incorrectly". I wonder what the punishment is for that in Japan ...
Posted by: cherenkov at March 5, 2007 3:22 PMHow many Tim Horton's coffee's would you give up for Dinner with Dalton?
Posted by: BBS at March 5, 2007 3:23 PMRe - Dr. Oscar Biscet:
Perhaps that info should be made available at Canadian travel agencies, coast-to-coast, for general consumer information.
I have friends/acquaintances who've gushed about Cuba, insisting "you just have to go!"
I usually reply, deadpan, "Maybe after they stop jailing and murdering dissidents, so my vacation won't finance that kind of human rights abuse".
Things usually get quiet at this point, and I might hear, "Oh come off it. I'm just going there for vacation, not politics".
Tell that to Dr. Biscet, or countless others.
mhb23re
[at gmail d0t calm]
"The poll is even on Bourque.com"
I sent ity into Bourque; it only took him 10 minutes to post it. I also sent it to Adler, it will be interesting to see if he discusses it.
Posted by: Bruce at March 5, 2007 3:54 PMcherenkov:
It is upside down. If you take the flag as it should be hung, flip it upside down then the star and triangle move from the hoist side to the free side.
The Cuban flag isn't symetrical in 2 planes. Just one. Therefore there is a difference when you flip it upside down.
Posted by: Reid at March 5, 2007 3:57 PMI fully agree with what Latimer did - and he should be freed.
His daughter was in terrible pain; a pain beyond the ability of painkillers to deal with (the painkillers would kill her as they would increase the fluid in her lungs). She had the mental capacity of a three month old; could not sit or walk, and her bones were effectively dissolving, leaving her in agonizing pain.
The sophist leftist activists who ranted against Latimer, claimed that he did it because 'she was handicapped'. Nonsense. He did it because of her relentless agony.
No, murder is not murder. That is like saying that running is running. No it isn't. You can run for pleasure. You can run in a sport. You can run in fear. You can run slowly, quickly; you can limp; etc, etc. You can run to something; you can run from something. It is the same with killing another human being. Sometimes, as with Latimer, it is an act of mercy. You wouldn't let an animal suffer as his daughter was suffering.
Posted by: ET at March 5, 2007 3:58 PMActually, the Cuban flag isn't even symmetrical in 1 plane. Since the star is a 5 pointed star, when you flip it upside down you'll notice the star is upside down.
Posted by: Reid at March 5, 2007 4:00 PMET:
IMO the biggest problem with the Latimer case was the stupidity of the prosecutors. They didn't have to charge murder - they had the option of laying a manslaughter charge. Had they done that they could have obtained a conviction, and thereby obtaining a societal condemnation of what he did, which was what a lot of the groups representing disabled persons wanted. But the court would not have been seized with the necessity of imposing a mandatory minimum sentence. It's done all the time, at least in other provinces.
Posted by: Bruce at March 5, 2007 4:06 PMThe Cuban government claims to have evidence that Biscet and his associates received some $20 million from the American goverment for purposes of subverting the Cuban state. This evidence was presented in court, along with evidence of their direct link to the head of the U.S. Interests Section in Havana, James Cason.
If Canada was under threat from a foreign power and I took money and materials from that power and collaborated with it, I would undoubtedly be in jail. And though I might very well be acting out of ideological conviction, to refer to me as a "dissident" might be considered somewhat misleading.
Anyway, you don't believe any of this....
Posted by: exile at March 5, 2007 4:06 PMre: Biscet
So let's assume he's guilty as sin.
Should he be languishing in jail? Should he be relying on his family to bring him food and medicine?
He's in jail because he opposes the Castro regime. Plain and simple. In Canada, you have the freedom to persuade others that the system is wrong.
Not in Cuba.
Heh. Breaking News!!!!
Apparently Suzuki's managed to get the cache of the poll deleted from Google. It's disappeared.
Perhaps he should reflect on the fact that it wasn't the Watergate burglary that got Nixon into trouble, it was the coverup...
Posted by: Bruce at March 5, 2007 4:29 PM*
The coverup continues...
In a shameless move that would have made Josef Stalin blush,
it appears that Suzuki.org has been able to eliminate the link
within Google cache. To ask for your copy of updated poll results,
please email David Suzuki...
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Posted by: neo at March 5, 2007 4:31 PMGreat and insightful post on what we are facing in the fight against the left. From Ghost of a flea:
I was reminded recently of a phrase that haunted politically engaged undergraduates of the late 1980s, viz "the hierarchy of oppression"; perhaps the most pernicious doctrine of what has come to be called cultural Marxism. This last is a by-blow of the Frankfurt School, Marxists who have not read Marx and the failure of Marxism in every sphere excepting the one constituency whose moral and intellectual bankruptcy left them vulnerable: Academics. Gone are Marx' response to Hegel and a polemical Utopianism for a world beyond the urban mega-squalor of Victorian England. In its place we have been offered a Marxism devoid of history, devoid of economics and devoid of a basic reflexivity of class position; no Marxism at all. The full cocktail of stupid goes beyond the scope of a post but this Marxism for Dummies needs no more time to explain than it does to embrace. Remember this simple formula: Race trumps gender and class, gender trumps class and a working class background is what you claim if no one will buy being a white guy of Irish descent makes you oppressed.*
So simple is this creed there is, in fact, only one rule that over-rides whatever calculus might be reached by that apocryphal lesbian of colour in a wheelchair in a game of oppression poker; she will still be uninvited to the game if anyone discovers she is Israeli. This is because no matter the issue, the United States, Great Britain and the Jews are always wrong. Simply agree with whatever fascist, medieval rape-cult, plastic-shredder enthusiast or France and you are ready for the smart set.
Case in point: The East coast editorial lynch mob that has it in for Ayaan Hirsi Ali. There was a time when an African refugee fleeing the real patriarchy would have been feted by "the left" - and, to be fair, ignored by "the right" - but no longer. She has had the temerity to suggest the culture which gave her refuge, that saved her from marital rape and life as chattel and that recognized her accomplishments in an election is better for women, better for people who would choose their own faith and better for that greatest boogie-man of progressives, Liberty.
Posted by: irwin daisy at March 5, 2007 4:43 PM"Afstan: An answer to media spin"
http://toyoufromfailinghands.blogspot.com/2007/03/afstan-answer-to-media-spin.html
Mark
Ottawa
ET, I agree.
Latimer get 12 years for an act of mercy.
Homoka gets 12 years for almost unspeakable murder of three innocent teenaged girls. That's three murdered girls with a bright future for each of them in sight, all for self gratifying depraved sexual gluttony.
I just received a copy of a letter from Anne McGrath, the president of the NDP. In it, she calls Mr. McClelland's comments "repugnant". She also states that the NDP is creating "a new blog roll that better reflects the views and needs of New Democrats in the blogsphere".
All I can say is good on the NDP.(cherniak via national newswatch)...-
Do the socialists-McGrath-NDP find their Comrade Stalin's final solution repugnant? Will the NDP disown Stalin? ...-
WNYC -
Stalin's Last Crime: The Plot Against the Jewish Doctors, 1948-1953 ... Zhdanov enjoyed playing the piano at Stalin's dacha and discussing literature with ...-
Idd - Latimer didn't get 12 years; he got LIFE. Parole is possible only after ten years. He apparently refuses to ask for 'mercy' because that would be an admission of guilt - and he says he was not wrong about his daughter. The Courts, by the way, said that her pain 'could be alleviated' with medication. Latimer and others have repeatedly asked the courts - what medication are they talking about? There was none available; she could not be given anything stronger than Tylenol because anything stronger would affect her anti-convulsion medication.
Yes, Homolka, who did indeed murder those girls, is free. There are other cases of women murdering their children - and they are all free, because they claimed they were 'depressed' or 'abused' when they did this.
The issue of standing by and watching a child in agony - is never addressed.
Posted by: ET at March 5, 2007 5:27 PM*
I'm sure more than a few of the Blogging Tories have
had the distasteful experience of brushing up against
Robert "Myblahg" McClelland.
It seems Little Bobby has gone so far "beyond the pale"
this time, that even the NDP is disavowing any connections
to him, or his site.
I'd go so far as to opine, if the cops ever found McClelland
dead in an alley, they'd be stumped... because everybody
who's ever talked to him would be a suspect.
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Posted by: neo at March 5, 2007 5:44 PMThank you for that clarification on the sentencing ET.
Still, I hope he's paroled early.
Thank you for that clarification on the sentencing ET.
Yes, it seems if a murderer can prove "victimhood" they'll get a lighter sentence. I'm not satisified by our judges, many sure seem like idiots to me.
Still, I hope he's paroled early, justice is not being served here anyway.
ops, so that's what happened in that first preview window, my apologies.
Posted by: ldd at March 5, 2007 6:09 PM
A web site that not only helps you go green but links to incentive and rebate programs from across Canada. You don't hear about all of the good stuff provinces and organizations are doing. The media would rather focus on booga booga Kyoto or nothing garbage.
Now THIS is what I call helpful: EcoACTION copliments of your friendly neighbourhood Conservative government and out tax dollars well spent:
http://www.ecoaction.gc.ca/index-eng.cfm
Posted by: Lorraine at March 5, 2007 6:35 PMAP, aka Associated Press, puts up the headline below.
Rewrite:
Muslims Killing Each Other In Gaza. ...-
Palestinian Heads Fail to Agree on Gov't
AP on Verizon Central ^ | March 5, 2007 | Diaa Hadid
GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - A daylong gunbattle between rival Palestinian factions raged in the streets of Gaza City Monday as Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh again failed to agree on the formation of a unity government....-
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1795698/posts
Big bad Alberta, the favourite punching bag of Liberals, BLOC and the NDP enviro-wackos.
Hee is a site with some Alberta environmental initiatives. Lots of good links here too.
http://www.climatechangecentral.com/
Global Warming (in Canada I assume) - courtesy of the Toronto Star today..
February was coldest in 28 years..
Average temperature was 3 degrees colder than normal..
Fifth coldest February since 1937 when weather records were first kept at what is now Pearson International Airport..
And the Fruitfly guy takes money from kids for????
Wonder if a class action suit could be filed against suzuki for telling lies. Look at the trouble Libby is in for supposedly telling lies.
Suzuki should refund that money to kids, Volpe had to.
Suzanne: "re: Biscet
He's in jail because he opposes the Castro regime. Plain and simple. In Canada, you have the freedom to persuade others that the system is wrong.
Not in Cuba."
No, he's in jail because he's collaborating with a hostile foreign power attempting to subvert the government - and he's getting paid for it. This is against Canadian law, too, and people have been convicted and jailed in Canada for similar reasons.
Posted by: exile at March 5, 2007 9:15 PMThose big guys get everything. ...-
Threat of 'ice bombs' closes Toronto
Ninemsn - 4 hours ago
Toronto major streets are closed on fears that table-sized sheets of ice could shear off tall buildings and smash down on cars and pedestrians.
Falling ice shuts down Gardiner Expressway CTV.ca
Ice falling from CN Tower closes Gardiner.
CBC Toronto
Who thinks the following sounds like a Liberal Party press release?:
Canadian Muslims vow to work to defeat the Conservative government
(Toronto Sun) A consortium of Canadian Arab-Muslim organizations released a media statement recently indicating it would work to defeat the Conservative government led by Prime Minister Stephen Harper in the next election.
This consortium consists of the Canadian Islamic Congress, the Canadian Arab Federation and the Canadian Muslim Forum. It makes claims of representing all Canadian Muslims.
The press release states: "Stephen Harper has avoided meeting with any major Canadian Muslim and Arab organizations and most of his ministers have followed suit as they are powerless to act outside policies originating within the Prime Minister's Office."
The consortium denounces the Conservative government for being regressive when dealing with Muslims. It condemns Harper's support for Israel, for leaning greatly in the direction of the Bush administration in Washington and for adopting its "corrupt policies" toward the Middle East, and in Afghanistan, preferring military engagement over diplomacy. [...]
Posted by: Lorraine at March 5, 2007 9:26 PMMARTENSVILLE RESULTS
http://www.fightingbackinsovietsaskatchewan.blogspot.com/
namby pamby land legal tip for the day:
make sure you express *REMORSE* for your sins against society else share robert latimer's sentence.
p.s.: feel free to google disabled groups and see what THEY have to say about this 'mercy' killing. a lot of them claim that part of latimer's never disclosed purpose was the huge financial, emotional, etc drain of caring for a severely disabled child.
also, I NEVER heard anything about any attempt to FIND OUT from Tracy or if it was possible in some way, what HER thoughts and wishes were. it was all about what the father 'thought' was 'best' for Tracy.
anybody up to setting up a poll out of the reach of the suzukiorg people with exactly the same Qs as the twilight zone now vanished version?
be fair now, gotta publicize it far and wide and try to impede fudging of votes.
I would but really cant be bothered figuring out how at this time.
Greenie uproar of the moment, tundra being replaced by forest!
www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-03/uoa-tda030507.php
Yep, more forest, less frozen wasteland. Only a greenie would think that's a bad thing.
Posted by: The Phantom at March 5, 2007 11:42 PMET (3:58pm) -- I almost can't believe it but you actually compared Latimer's daughter, metaphorically, to an animal. It is my opinion that, in doing so, you obliterated whatever validity your unconvincing argument was beginning to muster.
Bruce (4:06pm) -- great point which supports my earlier post: missaplication of the justice system creates more injustice.
ET (5:27pm) -- "The issue of standing by and watching a child in agony - is never addressed..." Now you've got me. I'm in total agreement that, in all of this, the main point -- his daughter's suffering -- was overlooked. I only meant to affirm that, if you're gonna charge and convict the poor bastard with murder, you have to apply the sentence for murder... however unjust.
Posted by: Brad in Waterloo at March 6, 2007 1:16 AMnuclear deterrence, a primer:
requires exactly and always and only 3 legs:
- motivation: self preservation is the single best motivation and justification for resorting to deadly force there is.
- plausibility: the counterthreat MUST be something you are capable of carrying out.
- 3rd step: communication !!! you HAVE to tell the other side what you're capable of for their own sake !!! you WANT to discourage them from attempting a first strike in order to prevent any and all major conflict !!!
at the tender age of about 8 or 9 I employed nuclear deterrence without even knowing it. quicky version:
bullied weekly for ages at good old st georges public school and repeatedly dragged into the principal's office with a 'well Bobby Bollocks, you certainly get involved in a lot of playground fights dont you (aka blame the victim)'.
uh, er, uh .... see, I wasnt able at the time to articulate (gawd I love that word) the fact that my pacifism and revulsion of force and violence impeded me from responding in kind. plus I was a scrawny weakling.
what to do what to do.
then the day came I secreted my mom's rather large and sharp sewing scissors in my school bag, took them out at recess and brandished them pronouncing loudly my intention to STAB anyone who picked a fight with me (all 3 ingredients of ND rolled into one act).
ah jeez you shoulda seen the fallout (pun intended) from THAT episode.
curious thing was, getting labelled as a weirdo was sufficient to deter any and all additional bullying from that crowd. future incidents were limited to new arrivals, and later on they just eroded away as I got older and bigger.
nuclear deterrence.
I get a chuckle when I hear all the balewhaling about sandbox school yard bullies. cripes, they havent done anything about that YET ?????
at present I have communicated another version to the local cops to whit: hey thugs-with-badges, best reconsider using my ass to justify your job and rustle up your quota of charges, Im not going to idly stand by whilst you bully me into submission. and if you think a 'preemptive strike' is the prescription, maybe, just maybe Ive ALREADY set my defense 'missiles' on automatic.
Ive got 60+ grand equity in my place; how much suffering, havoc and retribution can be bought on the open market for that much cash?
you reaaaaally need o local constabulary to think hard on drumming up excuses to come knocking on my surveillance system monitored front door.
so when nuclear deterrence doesnt work it MUST morph into nuclear retaliation or you lose all credibility and simply invite more attacks, as I finally realized long after my punching bag days in the bollocksville public school cystem.
like I said, I had to defend myself from a very early age and I wasnt even taught how to do it.
and the final word on nuclear deterrence?
the exquisite, beautiful perfection of it is that the very fact you made the threat, you communicated your intent (justification), and ability (plausibility) to counterattack IS THE VERY REASON YOU DONT HAVE TO CARRY IT OUT.
you have planted fear in the mind of the aggressor, you put THEIR ass on the line. you displace that sadistic pleasure they get from bullying-because-they-can with jeepers-that-guy-means-it and if they absolutely insist on taking the first swing, if you ever have to respond to an attack, you do so with a pristine clear conscience and the bystanders all say, 'well he warned them and they still did it, its all the other guys fault for not heeding the warning'. either way you win.
it is the reason WW III never happened and why little Israel hasnt sustained a massive land invasion since 1973: it WORKS.
Posted by: robertbollocks at March 6, 2007 1:18 AMany word yet on why the great US of A, land of wide access to firearms including assault weapons, has some 30 fatalities from said weapons EACH DAY ?????
keeeripes. in a week they exceed the entire tally for some countries in a whole year !!!
'price of freedom' or some such blather.
hey kid, I got some good news and some bad.
the good news is yer free.
the bad news is yer dead.
LOL !!!!
Posted by: robertbollocks at March 6, 2007 1:41 AMEasy to check your car*s efficiency.
Cost of Fuel $1 per litre
$3.79 per US gallon
$4.55 per Imperial gallon
Fuel Economy 19.05 litres per 100 km
12.35 miles per US gallon
14.83 miles per Imperial gallon
Mileage Costs 19.0476 ¢ents per km
30.65 ¢ents per mile
[ht tp oee.nrcan.gc.ca/transportation/tools/fuel-trip-calculator/fuel-calculator-results.cfm?attr=16]
tinyurl.com/35snnm
Check your car out. = Enter 3 things;
[1] Fill up in liters
[2] Price per litre
[3] KMs traveled per fill-up. = TG
from today's T.O. Star:
Prayer Palace junior minister doesn't mention Star exposé of lavish lifestyles
Mar 05, 2007 04:30 AM
David Bruser
Andrew Chung
Staff reporters
The junior pastor at one of the country's largest evangelical churches preached the virtues of wealth and smart investment to his working-class congregation yesterday.
It was the same morning the Toronto Star published an investigation into how Paul Melnichuk, patriarch of the Prayer Palace, and his twin sons, Tim and Tom, have amassed a fleet of fine cars and a pricey portfolio of fancy homes while doing little of the charity work their church claims to do.
The Star exposé, part of an ongoing series on Canadian charities, documented the Melnichuk family's lavish lifestyle, including about $12 million in personal real estate north of Toronto and in Florida, in contrast to the bulk of their congregation. Most church members faithfully give 10 per cent of their income.
"You see, you weren't designed to live in a apartment building. You were designed to own the apartment building you're living in," Tom Melnichuk said, calling for his followers to think positive. "If you don't watch it, you'll be eating at Denny's for the rest of your entire life."
The speech seemed at times more business seminar than sermon. In it, Tom called himself a "smart investor" and suggested church members learn to be the same.
Paul Melnichuk, or "Pastor Paul" as he is called by some at the church, is expected to respond to the exposé this Sunday. He was seen yesterday sunning on his dock in Bradenton, Fla., alongside his wife Kathleen.
uh, where, uh... where do these kariiiiistians sit on the spectrum ????
faith measured by material wealth. thats something out of the middle ages when the sick and poor were blamed for their own plight because of their 'sinful ways'.
harumph harumph fap.
Todays Vancouver Sun and National Post:
Re Air India Investigations:
The head of the BC RCMP said that "the loss of special provisions of the Anti-Terrorism Act will be devastating for the continuing police investigation"...(looks like the Liberals actions are working, they have tied the RCMP hands!)
I think Kim Bolan and Johnanthan Kay are on to something....they suggest that Flipper Dion and the Liberals are being taken over by extremists in their party...i hope they keep digging and find out who they are trying to protect.
Good old CBC National actually had this on the news tonight! (the pressure from the right must be getting to them)
Posted by: Al W at March 6, 2007 2:17 AMCanada and the USA are "carbon neutral". China must send $$$$$$$$ to North America. ...-
CO2 Sequestration in North America Is The Best (Sequestration Means Removal, Uptake of, Bury )
NOAA ^ | 1/1/1998 | NOAA
A Large Terrestrial Carbon Sink in North America Implied by Atmospheric and Oceanic Carbon Dioxide Data and Models
North America is the best constrained continent, with a mean uptake of 1.7 0.5 Pg C year 1 , mostly south of 51 degrees north. Eurasia–North Africa is relatively weakly constrained, with a mean uptake of 0.1 0.6 Pg C year 1 . The rest of the world’s land surface is poorly constrained, with a mean source of 0.2 0.9 Pg C year 1. ...
What it means
The implications of this paper are profound, for it shows the calculated CO2 sink strength of North America would be sufficient to yearly remove from the atmosphere all of the CO2 annually released to it by fossil fuel consumption in both the United States and Canada; and it would therefore call into question any claim that either the United States or Canada is contributing to the ongoing rise in the air's CO2 content.
In addition, the authors suggest that the historical rise in the atmosphere's CO2 concentration, via its aerial fertilization effect, may be one of the major causes of this phenomenon. ...-
Commenter said:
It would also mean that since the USA is "carbon neutral", that other regions of the world need to buy their carbon credits from us. OK Africa and Asia, pony up! Make your checks payable to "United States Treasury" and get that money over here. ...-
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1795904/posts
Rewrite:
Air pollution belches from coal-burners in China and India.
China and India are exempt from Kyoto.
This air pollution is not CO2 gas; it's actual soot/ashes; air borne carbonate solids.
The old railroad coal-burning steam engines belched the same particulates into the air. These solids landed on earthlings; brought down to earth by the attraction of Newton's gravity.
Koff, chuff, cherff, kofff...-
Asian air pollution affects storms over Pacific, according to new research
By RANDOLPH E. SCHMID
WASHINGTON (AP) - Pollution from Asia is helping generate stronger storms over the North Pacific, according to new research....-
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Science/2007/03/06/3703522-ap.html
Citizen Dion and his Liberals:
Hug-a-Thug-Hug-a-Terrorist Liberals: soft on crime; soft on terrorism. ...-
http://www.nationalnewswatch.com/
Grit [Liberal] Rips Top Mountie
Liberal justice critic Marlene Jennings is lashing out at B.C's top Mountie for criticizing a move by Canada's opposition parties not to extend controversial anti-terror powers for police. ...-
[Liberal] Dion Losing Law-And-Order Votes, Leading Liberal Says
Ontario Attorney-General has warned Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion that his party's justice policies have "very little substance," are a generation out of date and could be potentially fatal for the party in the next federal election. Michael Bryant, a fellow Liberal, conveyed the warning in a position paper to the federal leadership that has been obtained by The Globe and Mail....-
Posted by: maz2 at March 6, 2007 7:14 AMsomething for you cia/dubya/republicanist/whitehouseanythinggoes fans from yahoo news:
Lewis Libby found guilty in CIA leak case; sentencing scheduled in June
Tue Mar 6, 1:05 PM
WASHINGTON (AP) - Former White House aide Lewis (Scooter) Libby was convicted Tuesday of obstruction, perjury and lying to the FBI in an investigation into the leak of a CIA operative's identity.
Libby, the former chief of staff to Vice-President Dick Cheney, was accused of lying and obstructing the investigation into the 2003 leak of CIA operative Valerie Plame's identity to reporters. He was acquitted of one count of lying to the FBI.
Libby had little reaction to the verdict. He stood expressionless as the jury left the room. His lawyer, Theodore Wells, said they were "very disappointed" with the verdict.
Special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald said he was gratified by the verdict.
"The results are actually sad," he added. "It's sad that we had a situation where a high level official person who worked in the office of the vice-president obstructed justice and lied under oath. We wish that it had not happened, but it did."
The verdict was read on the 10th day of deliberations. Libby faces up to 30 years in prison, though under federal sentencing guidelines likely will receive far less.
U.S. District Judge Reggie Walton ordered a pre-sentencing report be completed by May 15. Judges use such reports to help determine sentences.
Libby faced two counts of perjury, two counts of lying to the FBI and one count of obstruction of justice. Prosecutors said he discussed Plame's name with reporters and, fearing prosecution, made up a story to make those discussions seem innocuous.
Libby's defence team said he learned about Plame from Cheney, forgot about it, then learned it again a month later from NBC newsman Tim Russert. Anything he told reporters about Plame, Libby said, was just chatter and rumours, not official government information.
Fitzgerald said that was a lie. But Libby's defence team had argued that it would be unfair to convict Libby in a case where so many witnesses changed their stories or had memory problems.
Wells said he would ask the court for a new trial by April 13. Such requests are common following criminal convictions.
"Despite our disappointment in the jurors' verdict, we believe in the American justice system and we believe in the jury system," Wells told reporters outside the federal courthouse. "We intend to file a motion for a new trial and if that is denied, we will appeal the conviction. We have every confidence that ultimately Mr. Libby will be exonerated.... We intend to keep fighting to establish his innocence."
Libby will be allowed to remain free while awaiting sentencing, which is set for June 5.
As the verdicts were read, Libby's wife choked out a sob and sank her head. Moments later, she embraced the defence attorneys.
The jury acquitted Libby of one count of lying to the FBI about his conversation with Time magazine reporter Matthew Cooper.
Libby and his lawyers walked into the courthouse after Wells' statement, holding on to each other by the wrists, apparently so they wouldn't be separated in the crush of reporters and camera crews. They paused briefly when a cameraman fell.
During the trial, prosecutors said Libby made up a ludicrous lie to save his job during the CIA leak investigation by telling investigators he'd forgotten Cheney told him about the CIA status of Wilson's wife. Cheney had passed the information to Libby more than a month before Plame's identity was outed by conservative columnist Robert Novak.
Libby told investigators he learned of Plame's identity from NBC reporter Tim Russert, saying that he'd forgotten at the time he talked to the reporter that he'd been told of it earlier by Cheney.
Russert testified he never told Libby about Wilson's wife, and underwent a gruelling cross-examination as Libby's legal team tried to discredit Russert's testimony.
Wells and Fitzgerald clashed over how important Libby and Cheney considered CIA officer Plame.
"The wheels were falling off the Bush administration" in the summer of 2003, Wells argued. How could Libby, serving Cheney as both chief of staff and national security adviser, remember Plame's job when 100,000 U.S. troops were in Iraq and hadn't found the weapons of mass destruction the administration had cited to justify the war? Wells asked.
"And he still had his day job of trying to prevent another 9/11" terrorist attack, Wells said.
Fitzgerald noted that eight witnesses, including an undersecretary of state, two CIA officials, two top Cheney aides, two reporters and former White House press secretary Ari Fleischer said they discussed Wilson's wife with Libby in a one-month span before Plame's CIA employment was publicly revealed.
Posted by: robertbollocks at March 6, 2007 5:01 PMof interest to cia/dubya/republicanist/anythinggoesinwashington fans from yahoo news:
(this might be a repost, I cant see the first one anywhere)
Lewis Libby found guilty in CIA leak case; sentencing scheduled in June
Tue Mar 6, 1:05 PM
WASHINGTON (AP) - Former White House aide Lewis (Scooter) Libby was convicted Tuesday of obstruction, perjury and lying to the FBI in an investigation into the leak of a CIA operative's identity.
Libby, the former chief of staff to Vice-President Dick Cheney, was accused of lying and obstructing the investigation into the 2003 leak of CIA operative Valerie Plame's identity to reporters. He was acquitted of one count of lying to the FBI.
Libby had little reaction to the verdict. He stood expressionless as the jury left the room. His lawyer, Theodore Wells, said they were "very disappointed" with the verdict.
Special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald said he was gratified by the verdict.
"The results are actually sad," he added. "It's sad that we had a situation where a high level official person who worked in the office of the vice-president obstructed justice and lied under oath. We wish that it had not happened, but it did."
The verdict was read on the 10th day of deliberations. Libby faces up to 30 years in prison, though under federal sentencing guidelines likely will receive far less.
U.S. District Judge Reggie Walton ordered a pre-sentencing report be completed by May 15. Judges use such reports to help determine sentences.
Libby faced two counts of perjury, two counts of lying to the FBI and one count of obstruction of justice. Prosecutors said he discussed Plame's name with reporters and, fearing prosecution, made up a story to make those discussions seem innocuous.
Libby's defence team said he learned about Plame from Cheney, forgot about it, then learned it again a month later from NBC newsman Tim Russert. Anything he told reporters about Plame, Libby said, was just chatter and rumours, not official government information.
Fitzgerald said that was a lie. But Libby's defence team had argued that it would be unfair to convict Libby in a case where so many witnesses changed their stories or had memory problems.
Wells said he would ask the court for a new trial by April 13. Such requests are common following criminal convictions.
"Despite our disappointment in the jurors' verdict, we believe in the American justice system and we believe in the jury system," Wells told reporters outside the federal courthouse. "We intend to file a motion for a new trial and if that is denied, we will appeal the conviction. We have every confidence that ultimately Mr. Libby will be exonerated.... We intend to keep fighting to establish his innocence."
Libby will be allowed to remain free while awaiting sentencing, which is set for June 5.
As the verdicts were read, Libby's wife choked out a sob and sank her head. Moments later, she embraced the defence attorneys.
The jury acquitted Libby of one count of lying to the FBI about his conversation with Time magazine reporter Matthew Cooper.
Libby and his lawyers walked into the courthouse after Wells' statement, holding on to each other by the wrists, apparently so they wouldn't be separated in the crush of reporters and camera crews. They paused briefly when a cameraman fell.
During the trial, prosecutors said Libby made up a ludicrous lie to save his job during the CIA leak investigation by telling investigators he'd forgotten Cheney told him about the CIA status of Wilson's wife. Cheney had passed the information to Libby more than a month before Plame's identity was outed by conservative columnist Robert Novak.
Libby told investigators he learned of Plame's identity from NBC reporter Tim Russert, saying that he'd forgotten at the time he talked to the reporter that he'd been told of it earlier by Cheney.
Russert testified he never told Libby about Wilson's wife, and underwent a gruelling cross-examination as Libby's legal team tried to discredit Russert's testimony.
Wells and Fitzgerald clashed over how important Libby and Cheney considered CIA officer Plame.
"The wheels were falling off the Bush administration" in the summer of 2003, Wells argued. How could Libby, serving Cheney as both chief of staff and national security adviser, remember Plame's job when 100,000 U.S. troops were in Iraq and hadn't found the weapons of mass destruction the administration had cited to justify the war? Wells asked.
"And he still had his day job of trying to prevent another 9/11" terrorist attack, Wells said.
Fitzgerald noted that eight witnesses, including an undersecretary of state, two CIA officials, two top Cheney aides, two reporters and former White House press secretary Ari Fleischer said they discussed Wilson's wife with Libby in a one-month span before Plame's CIA employment was publicly revealed.
Posted by: robertbollocks at March 6, 2007 5:04 PMLOL !!! speaking of dionnnnnnn in the news, he made the cover of Frank Magazine yet again, decked out in a superman costume and some goofy caption.
way to go you worse than useless uber twit academic illiteratum.
spoken like a true leftard moonbat eh?
Yet another poll. so far 70 percent of people say they ought not to give free drugs but lock em up.
I find it a might strange that this Mayor of Vancover does not see the irony of giving free drugs to addicts, criminals, bums or whomever. But when it comes to smoking they go apeshite. Ban after ban.
A legal product bought by working people, paying artificaly obsene taxes for said product. Yet those who steal for their habit. Are bewailed over, given free drugs. Those that are mentaly ill. Left to fend for themselves from these preditors. All the while smokers & citizans are treated like bought cattle or plauge carriers.
Most likly the money for the free drugs will come from cigerette taxes. Its a mad, insane group, in charge of our polity's.
Full of whining crossed with illogical emoting. Which of course adds ups to bad judgement , corruption with a double standard as the touchstone of any political policy.
Check the poll yourself.
Another grand socialist nanny state idea.
Vancouver Mayor Sam Sullivan, has come up with the bright idea to deal with local drug addicts and all the crime they are committing by simply supplying alternate drugs for free. No strings attached.
However, the drugs to be supplied are of the riddlin variety which are also very addicting and will likely only serve as an interim supply between regular purchases.
I believe that human nature dictates that when you put up a FREE DRUGS sign, the line will continue to grow until Vancouver barfs up it's entrails.
What do you think?
How should Vancouver area druggies be dealt with?
Give them free drugs?
Lock them up for a long time?
Just leave them alone?
Free polls from Pollhost.com
http://thedailywhack.blogspot.com/