CPAC now...on Canadian Wheat Board...

How will the liberals respond to the spanking canada got from the UN for allowing safe injection sites, and accusing Canada of encouraging the illicit drug trade. Remember the outrage from them when PMSH talked of defunding said sites. Guess our PM was right, and this will give him the moral highground to shut them down.
After all, isn't it the liberals who support everything the UN says and does.

An excellent piece by Gwyn Morgan from Monday's Globe and Mail regarding Green House Gas Emissions.

Titled:
Kyoto targets, tooth fairies and emissions ambitions

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070219.wrmorgan19/BNStory/Business/home

Calgary Sun : Feb 23, 2007
Go big, Charest

By LICIA CORBELLA

"Quebec, Quebec, Quebec. Blah, blah, blah. It's always about Quebec. Fifty stinking years of Quebec blackmailing this country with it's limp threat to separate."

That's how an e-mail sent to me yesterday began. It was written by a man who asked to be described as Jacques, "a former Quebecer and long-time proud Albertan."

His letter referred in particular to Quebec Premier Jean Charest's Wednesday election call and how that tidbit of info dominated the news cycle and likely will long after the polls close on March 26. In contrast, other provincial election calls usually garner a brief mention on national newscasts.

True enough. That's the reality in Canada. What Quebec does and what Quebec wants leads the agenda.

That the election call came one day after the feds announced a March 19 budget day leaves many non-Quebecers feeling cynical about the timing and most Albertans fearing Prime Minister Stephen Harper is going to break another election promise and change the equalization formula that determines how much so-called "have not" provinces get from "have" provinces.

Undoubtedly, Charest has been promised by Harper there will be good news for Quebec in the federal budget.

How much good news is the question.

Many non-Albertans believe the wild rose province is "greedy" and doesn't share its wealth. It is an unfair perception based on ignorance.

According to Alberta MLA Ted Morton, since 1961, Alberta has contributed $220 billion net to the rest of Canada and during that same period Quebec raked in $211 billion net in equalization transfers.

What has that bought us? It certainly hasn't purchased unity.

There is really only one way to end the neverendum threat -- by Jean Charest winning the election then promptly holding a referendum to end all referendums.

If Charest wants to be more than just the boy simply stalling the inevitable tide of separatist fervour, or at least the eventual change of government to a separatist one, he should hold a referendum.

Many people will say holding another referendum would be tempting fate.

However, the difference with a referendum held by Charest as opposed to a nationalist government would be the question asked. The wording of the 1995 referendum question was impossible to understand:

"Do you agree that Quebec should become sovereign, after having made a formal offer to Canada for a new Economic and Political Partnership, within the scope of the Bill respecting the future of Quebec and the agreement signed on June 12, 1995."

Polls showed most Quebecers didn't have a clue what that meant. The day before that fright night the vast majority of Quebecers actually believed a Yes vote would not mean Quebecers would lose their Canadian passports or any other Canadian benefit. They were duped.

With a voter turnout of 93%, the No side barely won, with 50.6% of the vote.

But that close call proved nothing. The question should be simple and to the point: Should Quebec separate from Canada? Yes or No?

Let Quebecers know what that entails. No passports, no disaster relief funding, no more federal government contracts and make-work projects, no more equalization, the removal of federal property from Quebec, including many art works and archives, etc.

Such a referendum is the only way Canada can be assured the blackmail will end. The Clarity Act is supposed to ensure a clear question is asked, but the PQ have already declared they will frame any question they want and will assume yes means yes. How would we stop them?

It's not likely Charest will hold a referendum, but for those of us in the ignored regions, it's a nice dream to contemplate since it helps tune out the interminable blah, blah, blah of Quebec, Quebec, Quebec.

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When I post a comment on most of the so-called "progressive" blogs...
I have come to expect to see the message that, "comments must be
approved" by the owner of the blog. When I see the same message
at a "conservative" site...

I am always a little surprised and disappointed.

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Dion's flip-flopping more than Mr. Dithers ever did.

Now he's backtracking again on the "carbon tax."

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/politics/story.html?id=f8566790-7279-4386-b1a9-1bfa4b0f3847&k=47115

And to top it off, he's blaming the Conservatives for forcing him to even have to "revisit" his environmental policies.

No Canadian fatalities in Afghanistan in over 3 months: http://canadiancerberus.blogspot.com/2007/03/no-afghanistan-fatalities-in-3-months.html

Stephen Harper lies in the House of Commons, makes deliberately false accusations about individual MPs in order to score partisan political points: http://canadiancerberus.blogspot.com/2007/03/harpers-lies-are-new-low.html

Tim Blair makes fun of lefties:

W3.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,21313210-5001031,00.html

Samples:

June 21, 2046

Dinner with Necrosis at that new place, Anemia. Had the gravel salad (yum!) and corn stalks, but Necrosis said her bug froth was overboiled.

February 17, 2065

If you ask me, the debate about global warming is over. I can't believe denialists are still disputing the science of speculative global warming prediction. It says a lot about their arguments that they rely so much on "evidence". I just wish global warming would get here a little faster, so my ethical biodome roofing business would finally turn a profit. Or attract a customer.

Stephen Harper lies in the House of Commons, makes deliberately false accusations about individual MPs in order to score partisan political points: http://canadiancerberus.blogspot.com/2007/03/harpers-lies-are-new-low.html

Posted by: Ted at March 2, 2007 1:26 PM
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Liberal supporters aghast at alleged "lies." The world never ceases to amaze and amuse.

Hmmm. Pat Martin (NDP) just called the government fascists and stated that they were worse than Mussolini. This was right at the end of the CWB debate today. Don't think the NDP will be able to complain about decorum in the house after that.

I'll be checking Hansard to see the exact wording once available.

I take it from your comment Matt that you are neither aghast nor surprised by Harper's lies.

This really is a new low. Say what you will about the Liberals (and little has been left unsaid here), I can't recall any former Prime Minister, including Mulroney, lying about other MPs like that, deliberately trying to impugn their reputations with outright falsehoods. The worst I think you could say they ever did was get their underlings to say mean things about the opposing side.

And there is no alleged about it. Harper accuses two MPs of appointing their husbands to the immigration review panel, including the former Minister of Immigration. Problem is, in the first case, the former minister's husband was actually appointed by Brian Mulroney and, in the other, she wasn't even an MP!

Deciding you could never vote Liberal is one thing. Denying that Harper is getting more and more out of control, personally nasty and vicious is another thing altogether.

Was it just a Dream?
The other day i could have swore i responded to a CTV.ca poll re: the anti-terror sunset clause
the poll at the time had 69% in favor of the the anti terror act. I went back later to check results, But No Poll. Gone,Vanished, disappeared, Kaput.
Anyone, Anyone! was i just dreaming or was this another case of a poll gone horribly Wrong.

On another topic did anyone catch David McGuinty squirming last nite on CPAC when asked by Van Dusen if Dion is going to implement a Carbon Tax if he becomes the government.
Van Dusen was just losing it as McGuinty evaded, changed subjects did everything possible to Not Answer the Question, Yes or No.
I guess it runs in the family Brother Dalton answers the same way. Pinochio Twins.

Was this the poll you were looking foron CTV?

"Should the government have the right to hold non-citizens suspected of having terrorist ties indefinitely?"

The result was 63% yes, while 37% said no.

Bring back Kate.

"How will the liberals respond to the spanking canada got from the UN for allowing safe injection sites, and accusing Canada of encouraging the illicit drug trade. Posted by: mary T. at March 2, 2007 12:46 PM"

mary,

I used to tell everyone who would listen that so-called "safe injection sites" were a loony idea. But now that the UN is saying the same thing, I might have to change my mind.

check out today's poll, the result's so far are resoundingly for no, in regards to the question about Richmonds fire department.

You can't spell unbelievable without UN.

I take it from your comment Matt that you are neither aghast nor surprised by Harper's lies.

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Posted by: Ted at March 2, 2007 1:38 PM
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Ted, when you got up out of your chair and voted Liberal, you signalled that lying, cheating and stealing are all OK.

It's a little late to huff and puff about it now.

So because you think some Liberals did some bad things in the past.... any Canadian citizen who voted for them in the past doesn't have a say in the political process anymore? Is that what you mean Matt? We aren't allowed to talk about how our government is performing? Is that what you are saying?

Just put up and shut up about Harper's flip flops, lies, arrogance, and his gimmicky government of politics over policy?

Hey, remember the supreme court appt of cotliers wifes best friends husband. It is too bad so many liberal supporters believe everything PMSH says or does is a lie or flipflop, but can't see any wrongs by the liberals during all their years in govt re appointments, stealing, flipflops, and are ready to excuse all these just for spite. But according to polls, things are starting to change.

Fixed that for you Ted...

Just put up and shut up about Chretien's flip flops, lies, arrogance, and his gimmicky government of politics over policy?

I guess what goes around really does come around, since you apparently have PMSH Derangement Syndrome I can't really trust anything you say. I will have to check this out myself. I am afraid that you have been crying WOLF for so long that even if you do tell the truth by mistake you won't be believed....

How does an alleged wrong by the Liberals in the past mean Harper isn't lying now?

Ted,

You can yammer on about it all you want. Nowhere did I ask that you shut your pie hole.

It's just that I can't take you and your complaints seriously.

I'm sure you're a nice guy and all that, but when you start complaining about stuff that the Liberals are masters of, about stuff that you happily accepted when you voted for them, you aren't credible.

Dion working on Carbon tax.

Dion said. "Oui waassted full year before been able to do enny ting. Zo I need revisit my own plan make sure dat it will work more spe dilly for Canadiens in order do our share of climate change and to have a strongest eh con me built on substainability, and dis is what I do'

CBCpravda did several days of why the vancouver safe injection sites were a good thing. now the UN the mighty UN has come out against it Pravda is quiet as a whore in church.

Regarding disappearing polls:

I do know that sometimes online polls get blitzed by a person or group of people with a certain agenda. And when this happens, it's obvious by the number of votes deviating dramatically from the average number of votes in the polls typically, the website will often just take it down.

What I would suggest to CTV is that if this is the case they should make a note on their website when they do it. I know that CHQR radio will tell you when their poll results have been compromised and they are not going to report the results the next day.

I like "Ted". It reassures us every time the "Teds" of the world post or comment, at how lucky we are to have the BT blogsphere for:
- real content (not one 10 word sentence with 8 swear words, at which the author clearly struggled to determine where the period went;
- perspective from the outside world;
- a sense of proportion.

Oh, and before I forget, Ted? Whatever Harper's doing in the house is working just fine. So suck it up Princess, read the polls, and ask yourself a fundamental question: "why should Teddy be part of a bunch of leaderless losers?".

Ted, on this issue, I agree with you. Harper should withdraw his remarks and apologize, and he will. Calling him a liar is another matter. Can you argue he knowingly (it-knew of Mulroney appointment), misrepresented himself in HoC?

Re: polls. Obviously Tories headed for majorityland; hence, the increasing rage against him and his "cultlike" leadership.

Haven't heard from SES. They got last-minute voter intentions right last election. I would be interested in their take now.

It's pretty astonishing to me how many so-called Harper supporters there are and none will defend Harper on this issue.

He is turning into (has always been?) a mean-spirited man. We say the worst of it yesterday when he attacked to opposition MPs - not even the leader - attacked their personal integrity and reputation with bald-faced lie.

He said they appointed their husbands to the immigration panel and they weren't even there when it happened. One of them was in fact appointed by Brian Mulroney.

I don't give a flying crap what you folk think about the Liberals or me. This Prime Minister lives in a lower and dirtier gutter than Chretien and he likes it.

Ted,

Not to hurt your feelings, but I don’t trust you. You could tell me that there was a major snow storm in Ontario yesterday and I’d be suspicious.

I instinctively reject anything where you are the messenger. I have no interest in your allegations. Your past behaviour (i.e., condoning Liberal lying, cheating, and stealing) tells me that you’re not a credible source.

It’s like getting a call in the middle of dinner from some telemarketer telling me I’ve been selected from thousands of people for this/that/the other thing.

I consider the source and reject it. Click.

"We are putting in place a new selection system so we do not have what we had before – like the member for Westmount-Ville-Marie (Robillard) appointing her former husband as a member of the board, like the husband of the member for Notre-Dame-de-Grâce-Lachine (Jennings) as a member of the board," Harper said. He repeated the allegation in French, accusing Jennings, too, of making the appointment.

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/187460

It will be up on Hansard soon.

Just call him Jean Harper. To the power of ten.

"I don't give a flying crap what you folk think about the Liberals or me. This Prime Minister lives in a lower and dirtier gutter than Chretien and he likes it."

Awww....teddy is having a hiisy fit.

That should be "hissy".

Found It, I was not Dreaming afterall. However after reading the results the Liberals are most likely going to hope it was a dream as i can see the PM's numbers going up again soon.
Tucked neatly on the CanadaAm Your say Comments section, Low & behold there it was Wed.Feb28, Strange thing is that there was not one comment on the poll, Not 1. Now would you not find that is really quite strange that not one person sent a comment.
yup just another poll gone wrong.

Question: Was the Defeat of the anti-terror Legislation the right thing for Canadians?
Results
76% NO
24% Yes
Another issue that Canadians will support the Government on & another that will come back to haunt Dion & Co for trashing the Bill.

while we are in the gutter.

wasnt it Jean Cretian that encountered the poor homeless man in the gutter on his walk to work.

no, thats right, he made that all up. but it was good press until they couldnt find such a person.

speaking of lies and deceit , when are the Libs going to pay back the $40 million they stole from the taxpayers?

Ted, get a grip on yourself, or something.
Your sounding awfully desperate.
The Conservatives will need at least a decade to clean the Liberal sleaze/corruption and profound
state of entitlement.

Harper is on his way to being the best Prime Minister we've had in memory.

He took a hit on the Income Trust file but he had the guts to do the right thing. That's a Leader.

You won't find him out promising all things to all
people to get votes. He has principle. We can expect fairness.

We'll have an Armed Forces to protect us and our way of life at home and abroad, something the Liberals ignored for several decades.

The Liberals are out for the long term, get used to it. The people of this Country are not about to
give the reins of power to a Party divided and in
extreme state of flux.

Ted,
Wow man. Calm yourself down. Harper is here, will be for awhile so do not wear yourself out. He must be doing something right if he can work you up like this.

I do not understand this Jean Harper comment. I have seen it elsewhere or maybe it was just you. What is the point you are making with that name?
enough

A little quote from CBC-Pravda regarding the brutal CDN killers in Afghanistan.

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/03/02/detainees-missing.html

"Poor record-keeping by Afghan guards or undocumented release, which occurs regularly and often as a result of bribes, could explain their disappearance. But they may have been tortured or killed."

Translation: We don't know what happened but our military is evil and full of killers.

How does an alleged wrong by the Liberals in the past mean Harper isn't lying now?

Posted by: Ted at March 2, 2007 2:22 PM "

?

????????

'alleged' ??????

where tf were you teddy when adscam hit the news ?????????

the plain brown envelopes stuffed with cash changing hands at the restaurant.

the lieberals ADMITTING they got some 10 mill out of it with a 'garsh heh heh awwww shucks guys we'll jess gives it back eh?'

jeezuz murphy you lieberals really believe all your own lies. a telltale sign of serious psychological impairment; you cant tell fantasy from reality.

"I do not understand this Jean Harper comment"

I think little teddy boy is trying in vain to compare screw face with our PM.

The point is that Harper is just Jean Chretien in blue. Partisanship over policy. Politics over priniciple.

Funny thing is, when Jean Chretien came into office after a corrupt government, he introduced then what were the toughest accountability measures ever. Was the first to introduce the very idea that all government contracts should go through a procurement process instead of just handed over to friends. And then after years the arrogance and corruption settled into the government.

Harper is an over achiever. He's accomplished in 13 months an arrogance and disregard for Canadians that took the Liberals in 13 years to accomplish. No bid contracts to friendly firms. Partisan appointments to the judiciary. Lowering the level of debate in the House for partisan gain.

He probably will win the next election. Especially with all of the support and anti-Liberal/anti-Dion bias of the MSM these days.

But Chretien wasn't a good PM just because he could beat the Conservatives and win elections. In fact, the ease with which he could do so actually made him more arrogant and a less good PM.

We're seeing the same phenomena today with Jean Harper. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss. Only his socks are blue.

Ted, sure is to bad you got yourself in a not over this, the Liberal's haven't proved it isn;t true what Harper said, they just crie like kids on a play ground anytime someone says something about them that may be considered slighly below the belt, Liberal's like to dish out a lot od thing's remeber the whole hidden agenda thing, they used that for 2 or 3 elections and there crying ususally leads me to believe that you must have struck a nerve when they wine like they do. If you are going to call people all the things that Liberal's have called conservatives over the years and can't take it when someone throws something back than you should stay out of politics

"He probably will win the next election. Especially with all of the support and anti-Liberal/anti-Dion bias of the MSM these days."

MSM bias? Man, that was good for a laugh. The rest of your post is idiotic at best.

If anything there is generally a bias that is usually pretty Liberal freindly in the media

Bryan:

Hunh? What on earth are you talking about?

Kate opened this up to reader tips. Harper made the most outrageous of lies about the personal integrity of two MPs and I noted it. I think the hypersensitivity in your and other's reaction is quite indicative of how vulnerable you realize he is.

And there is no question about his untruthfulness. He said that the former minister of immigration appointed her husband to the immigration review panel. That is a very strong ethics charge. Problem is, her husband was appointed by Mulroney. In the other lie, the other MP wasn't even in Parliament.

So your guy isn't perfect. So he turns out to be as corrupt and partisan and dirty pool as every single other politician who has ever been in government and held power. So the guy has shown that he is as desperate to hold onto that power as every other politician before him, Liberal included.

Jean Harper. Like Voice said: meet the new boss. same as the old boss.

It's not that I can't take criticism, Bryan. I just generally don't like politicians and it galls me when so many kool-aid drinkers paint Jean Harper as some sort of saint.

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He's accomplished in 13 months an arrogance and disregard for Canadians that took the Liberals in 13 years to accomplish.

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Posted by: Voice at March 2, 2007 3:31 PM
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Oh now that's rich.

The Liberals are reluctant liars, cheaters, and thieves?

I can see it now ...

[Paul Martin] Mr. Prime Minister, we’ve been in office over a decade and I feel a strange force that compels to toss off my cloak of righteousness and do something really evil. Can nothing be done to stop these completely foreign feelings?

[Jean Crouton] Good God no man. We Liberals are sweetness and light personified, but it’s the years in office that make us do evil. Now hand me that napkin; I’ve got some money to make.

Harper is know saint, but he does know something about leadership and I am not that sensitive about it, Harper by what I have observed about him is more than capable of looking after himself.

But, those men have been appointed to boards.
That is not a lie. Are they still there. Could that be a conflict of interest. Not as bad as the kernal klinks of the liberals, I know nothing, re adscam, income trust, hrdc, gun registry. And just wait till all those secret foundation reports come out.

"Not as bad as the kernal klinks of the liberals, I know nothing, re adscam, income trust, hrdc, gun registry."

Anyone who compares PM Harper with the likes of chretch or martin with regards to corruption are stretching it, to say the least.

just so you know, I believe that anyone who voted for Mr. Dither's or his arch rival Jean Chretien either votes blindly or just doesn't care about what happens to there country. When Liberals rule this country it seems the only thing that matter's is themselves, not anyone else. I cannot list a thing that was useful that the Liberals did for me in there time in office, Harper at least has cut my taxes among other things

Mary are the Foundation reports by AG fraser due out in April? I thought i either read that somwhere or heard it.
The reason i ask is that if the reports come out in a negative then watch the polls, Bamm an election will be triggered somehow.

Another good news poll out today by Angus-Reid

http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/14905

Rush Limbaugh has stated many times it must be awful going to bed at night and knowing when you wake up you will be still the hateful person you were when you went to bed. Your party will still be in the doldrums. Ted fits that person. I suggest these lib supporters with the blindfolds on hold their fire. They are going to have 5 years to spout it. Give yourselves a break and think up some new attacks. We are not paying attention to you anymore. The one thing PMSH does not have in common with Brian and the liberals, ties to strong, powercorp, demaris and the rest of the thugs. At least those who voted for Brian had the guts and brains to say no more, and formed a new party, and it took a few years to get rid of all the old boys. Will the liberals do the same. The only reason Chretain won majorities was because of a divided Right. Now it is the left that is divided, with no guts to get out and start over. Maybe some who refused to run for the leadership will try and bring some sanity back to politics of the liberals and form a new party. No way the libs and ndp could join together as who would lead them. The Teds of the blogs are being ignored and show their hatred, and are exposed as idiots, just like suzuki and gore are being exposed. Dion with his carbon tax, and kyoto support is also being exposed as a dangerous man for Canada.

as much as I detested conservatists in an unrestrained unfettered and record level because of mr $300,000 bribe mulruin, I detest lieberals even more because with them it wasnt just a bastard at the top and a bunch of hangers-on, with them its the whole friggin party in on it to the point of self delusion.

heck of a cystem of gubbamint we got here: vote for the least detestable of the lot. vote for the one gonna do the least damage to the nation's and citizens' well being and future.

sheeesh.

HA. I love it.

We are not paying attention to you anymore."

The Teds of the blogs are being ignored."

... after a 300 word reply

... which came after 32 related comments and replies, and more than just a few from good old Mary T... all totalling some 3051 words.

With this kind of being ignored Ted, you sure don't need any stalkers.

I think the AGs report is due in early April. If they come out April 1st lib supporters will claim it is an april fools joke. Anybody hear Dion's speech today on Social Justice. Missed it. Was it in english and could anyone understand him.
Had a nice chat at lunch today with a couple who have moved here from Montreal. Very interesting, to hear them say the reason English is not taught in schools is because the PQ govt knows Que has nothing to offer and people are leaving in droves. (this couple is french) If they can't speak or understand english they will have to stay. Yikes, suzuki is having a news conference, glad the tv was on mute. Just changed the channel. I will leave it to Ted to report on the hypocrite. What kind of footprint did he leave going from BC to Ottawa, after his cross country fiasco where he took money from kids. Volpe was chastised for that, why not David.

I can never understand why people like Ted would support the Liberals in any level of government.

We all judge our friends, family and business contacts by what they do, not what they say. Yet Liberals do nothing and promise everything yet you blindly follow along and stupidly vote again and again for these liars. That is the definition of insanity, repeating the same thing over and over expecting a different result! People who support the Conservatives expect results and kept promises and punish the leader who fails to deliver. I have no idea what Liberal supporters expect.

It is a proven fact that Chretien and Martin lied and cheated Canadians and spent their tax money as if it belonged to them. Liberals have no policies or programs. Chretiens top advisor admitted they had no intention of meeting Kyoto targets with that arrogant clod doubling Canada's target percentage. In 13 years the Cretin did nothing for Canada, decimated the military, adscam, shawinagate, billions in broken contracts and on and on. And you support this type of government, what a maroon.

Yet you continue to attack Harper, who methodically implemented his goals, some that the Liberals promised but as usual never acted on, like the military equipment purchases.

When you Liberals can point out something you have actually completed get back to me, as if that would ever happen.

" after a 300 word reply

... which came after 32 related comments and replies, and more than just a few from good old Mary T... all totalling some 3051 words."

Ummm...Voice, do you like math or are you bored?

Wake up in Atlantic Canada!!!

You are now the only region/province in Canada where the Liberals are ahead of the Tories(albeit by only 1%)according to the latest Angus Reid poll.

All you lefties:

Take your age.

Add 8 years.

That's how old you will be before the Liberals even have a sniff at regaining power.(they might make some inroads after the first Tory majority but it won't be enough to form government).

Depressed? I bet!!

I'm not....hahahahahaha!!!!

Voice aka Ted;

I think what you meant to say is that Harper accused the Liberals of making patronage appointments in the Immigration portfolio. Reality is that those people were appointed, they were Liberal supporters/patrons but he got the timeline wrong. I note that your source is the most biased Liberal rag out there, the Toronto Star - good God (or diety of your choice, I prefer Zeus myself) man, what were you thinking? You consider that rag a reliable source, I will wait for Hansard to get the correct quote without the Liberal interpretation....

BTW Ted/Voice, Kate is not here at the moment, looks like you drop over to just to spread dirt and then run. If you had been reading you would have noted that there are Guest admins running the blog for her, but good slam anyway, to bad the back splatter was so intense...

well said David, I would like also to point out that Liberals when at there convention seemed more interested in the party that was later instead of the policy debate that Liberals talk a lot about, I heard it more than once how poorly attended the policy side was attended. I know Conservatives like to party as well, at least we have policy! I am from Western Canada Stephane Dion has promised to reinstate the Wheat Board, I used to farm with my dad, I never grew a board crop and you want to know why, because I couldn't get enough money out of my crop to pay the bills I always would have had to wait a year after I sold the crop to get paid out, why would I want that? Stephane i don't need more liberal interference in my life.

clair voyant:

Atlantic Canada is like a dog that's being starved by it's master. Even though it's being starved, it will still wag it's tail and come happily to eat the paltry scraps that it's master throws it's way.

So Ted says Harper has smeared and lied about a Liberal MP, preaching indignation.

So Ted, you then go on to explain Harper is far worse than Chretien because of this.

So please, show me anything where Harper has even come close to Chretien's attack on the former head of the BDC. You know, his reputation, job, pension, family. If you need some refreshing, he's the one who blew the whistle on Chretien's involvment in Shawinigate.

Hey, wait, come to think about it, Chretien lied in the HoC for 2 years saying he never had any role in the role. And the loan was defaulted on in the end. Please Ted, explain that lie as well.

Ted -- there is a difference between a "a deliberately false accusation" and making an honest mistake. I would admit that Harper picked up on this one by way of embarassing Liberals, but he would not have done so had he not believed the information to be factual . . . knowing he would be caught out. First of all, he is too smart for that and secondly this type of information typically comes via researchers. I doubt that the Prime Minister personally spends time digging up this type of thing. So -- you can dislike the Prime Minister for trying to stick it to the Liberals at every turn, but putting forward misinformation is not always lying and the "lie" charge in this case is just not credible. What it is is another example of Liberals being desperate to catch Conservatives doing something underhanded -- just as they made a big fuss last week about the Pearson medal thing. Last week the Liberals were caught out -- this week the Conservatives are because the information is incorrect, but in both instances, the incidents are too trivial to deserve much attention.

Ted, aka "Voice" enjoy the ride!

Is anyone prepared to call one of Newmans guests this pm a liar. He stated the lowest tax rate is up to 15.50%, from Martins 15%. He and everyone who buys this should look at their Sch 1 this year and find that it is 15.25%. Not much, but he told a lie. Again, this is offset by the amt for non refundable tax credits, (you know, that amount you get to write off what you owe) to 15.25%.

To throw a more entertaining note into this thread, I've taken a big step to making our office green!!! I've unofficially implemented carbon trading in our company lunch-room, based on the model David Suzuki is using for his trip across Canada.

After lunch each day, when I get to the office kitchen, my dish is usually pretty grungy because of the way I bake food (carbon) onto it. So what I now do is, I take some other dish and wash it instead.

My carbon is still there of course, and it may be black, but I'm green!! I've fulfilled my responsibility by washing an easier dish, so I can feel good about myself. Sooner or later I suppose someone might decide that my dirty dishes are a problem but, hey, that's not my problem any more. Pretty smart, eh?

great idea Rick, you may be onto something there

Ted was for lying before he was against it.

David Karwacki wants to know if the uranium industry should be developed more in Saskatchewan
http://davidkarwacki.ca/ - poll in the lower left corner.

mary T: Newman's 'guests' were one sickening pack of sore losers this evening.
Particularly Delacourt who kept saying she was hesitant to say something but did anyway.
It's obvious they are hurting.
Sorry can't relieve their pain so let's put them out of their misery.

On the lie scale, Chretien told the biggest in history of our politics. He said when asked if he would get rid of the GST, he said "IT'S GONE" and it's in the archives from a TV clip.
The Liar won the next election because of that LIE.
Sheila Copps didn't fare so well, she had to resign her seat and run again for assuring people the GST would be scrapped.

How's that for Liars?

algores carbon credit company if further exposed today by Rush. Re the polls, notice the dates of both polls. Up to Feb 26th. Lots of press re the terror bill vote. But, the vote took place Feb 28th. After the polls were done. Wait for the numbers of the next poll. Greg Weston said today, on Newman that altho it is not showing up in numbers yet, there is an underlying shift to the conservatives. Lots of long faces at the cbc lately. No report yet on dions speech in Halifax.

Just Googled Keith Wiley (little Gillian's "father" who scripted the Greenhouse Gas video for her in exchange for helping her build a playhouse. (This whole thing just stinks)

I was shocked (not) to find out he is the communication director for the United Nurses of Alberta and has been very active in the fight against better health care in Alberta (aka private medicine).

He has had a "long career in political journalism".

I am absolutely disgusted but not shocked by this lefty behaviour.

"This Prime Minister lives in a lower and dirtier gutter than Chretien and he likes it"

ROFL!!

Ted, are you able to breathe unassisted?

Chretien personified "mean-spirited", and I'd give numerous examples if I thought you were intelligent enough to understand them.

In other news:

(CP) CANADIAN LEFTARD BLOGGER ENTERTAINS CONSERVATIVE BLOG-SITE WITH 1-TRICK PONY LIBERAL WHINING
March 2, 2007

Blogger impetuously stamps foot - click for details

Cherniak was trashing a poll and this was left on his comments:

"Jason,

Our poll today is a random sample from our on-line panel that is weighted to the census population of Canadian adults. It is truly a representative sample of Canadians and is tested among other demographics plus vote. Further, we run a coincidental telephone sample of 1000 in the three days prior to the on-line weekly Omnibus and we can constantly track and weight the numbers so they accurate within the margin of error. In fact, of the $130 Million of market research done this year at Ipsos (and the quarter billion in North America), 60% of the business is done on-line with most of the largest corporations and institutions in North America relying on their outcome.

In addition to defaming our research approach, methodology and expertise which is considerable, you overlook one thing that is really at the root of your potential slander: the questions and results we produced were pretty much the same as the Strategic Counsel poll yesterday and some others that I am aware of in the wings. So, regardless of your ill advised rant on methodology, the bottom line is pretty much the same wherever you look.

Best regards,

John Wright
Senior Vice President
Ipsos Reid
Public Affairs"

It appears that Cherniak has since deleted it (not the offending post, no, the clarification/warning),

funny on so many different levels.

Oops, left out -in Quebec- re Greg Westons stmt.
There will be another poll out on Sunday, and he didn't want to give numbers, just said the shift is happening.

"But Chretien wasn't a good PM {snip!}"

There, voice. Fixed that for you, K?

You can thank me later.

Apres Dion, Le Deluge

Who As Next Lib Leader ?

Ignatieff 28%
Trudeau 12%
Kennedy 11%
Dryden 3%
McKenna 16%
Rae 15%
Copps 14%

http://bourque.freepolls.com/cgi-bin/pollresults/066

I suspect the night of the long knives is soon for Borat Dion.

The libs are sore losers , I love how they eat their young . Cretenites , then the short lived " one hour Martinizers", now the self destructing Dyonites. The next faction to the plate please, the Ignobles.

Can one of the moderators please "unhold" my comments.

Friday, March 02, 2007
6 pm Nightly Lemons Report: Duff & Newman

Excerpt:

Delacourt drops the King Lear "Sound and Fury" line. Gives Tories a pass on attack ads. Describes Libs as hostages and CPCs as confident and happy. Says Libs playing into CPCs poor leadership thing. (This tends to confirm that the ads worked if Delacourt changed her mind.) Weston admits Liberals really in trouble and that Sunday's poll will reveal that Quebecers are steadily gaining acceptance and receptiveness to Harper.

Is it just me, but does Nelly Furtado look like she's wearing a bad wig.

Craig Oliver says Dion not selling - says not being seen as a natural leader (more proof of power of attack ads).
Says Dion going left and might lose the centre.

Duff quoted Kookie to conclude that "if Canada's biggest environmentalist is believing that Harper's finally got it. . .".

It's in the air and on the air. Tension, unstated excitement. Expect an election call before the daffodils sprout.

Posted by Brian Lemon at 5:28 PM ...-
http://canadianbluelemons.blogspot.com/

Maz2, the next liberal leadership convention is going to open with Barbara Streisand singing "Send in the Clowns"

Sorry Antenor but isn't Barbara Jewish. Not a chance they would even let her in the door.

"...If you are non-U.S., implicitly there is a political calculus," says a senior U.S. Army officer about his NATO colleagues. "You are looking over your shoulder to Ottawa. You're asking: 'Will getting five killed-in-action mean a phone call about the wisdom of this particular operation?'..."

online.wsj.com/
article_email/
SB117254410654120232-lMyQjAxMDE3NzIyNzUyNDc0Wj.html

Just wondering, what did Howard Dean tell those liberals at the convention. Guess he spoke english and dion didn't understand when Dean said, go after every vote, in places you have not won before (paraphrasing) and dion thought he said, trash voters where you have never won.
Wonder what Dean thinks of the liberals freefall.

If you need a good laugh:
http://liberals.ca/
It look like a spoof site to me. Maybe this is old news, but still fun. Save Us From The Liberals? Liberals: A New Error For British Columbia! Etc., Etc.

Just read the comments in the g&m re Dions road trip.
One poster said-First we lose Oshawa, then we lose- and the western half of his trip will be cancelled.
He is going to 28 ridings, are they liberal ridings?

FIFA's rulemakers forbid head scarves, [aka hijabs]

Soccer's legislators have ruled that no player can wear a head scarf on the field....-
canoe news

Socialist, state-operated "Health Care", is moribund*; new label is "Death Care", instead of Health Care ...-

Hospital resources 'near breaking point,' surgeon says
CBC British Columbia - 23 hours ago
The chief of surgery at Royal Columbian Hospital in New Westminster, BC, says he had to cancel all his elective surgeries in February because of inadequate resources. (google news)
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*Moribund:

1. in a dying state; near death.
2. on the verge of extinction or termination.
3. not progressing or advancing; stagnant: a moribund political party. (dictionary.com)

Citizen Dion's policies: between the P's: Pitiful and Pathetic. ...-

Liberals go from Dithers to Flipper

Pummelled in the polls, his House of Commons attacks muted by faltering English and his performance privately panned by insiders, Stephane Dion is off on a national damage control tour to defend a Liberal leadership swaying between pathetic and pitiful. ...-

Behind subscriber wall here:

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=fdd2983e-5b1e-48bf-bc45-090b57f1e864
(via Bourque)

Suzuki, through his communications director, compares himself and his diesel bus journey to Terry Fox and his run. And then to Gandhi. Pathetic.

A quote from his communications director's blog:

"It was fitting that David ended the cross-Canada portion of the tour at the Terry Fox monument at Mile Zero in Victoria.

Two great Canadians, both beacons of hope and inspiration to average folks. Here, at the far end of the Trans-Canada Highway, after so many thousands of kilometers, he still looks pumped and ready to give his speech one more time. And with the patience of Gandhi, he moves through a crowd of kids, well-wishers, media and others, signing autographs, books, and accepting letters, brochures and flier for a multitude of causes."

http://www.davidsuzuki.org/blog/DSF1_03010701.asp

"Stephane Dion is off on a national damage control tour to defend a Liberal leadership swaying between pathetic and pitiful. ..."

- In our cities
- without guns
- with other Liberals

Went on Lib website to figure out where Dion tour going. Can anyone verify, as I suspect, that he will be touring large urban centres only. If so, then he is shoring up his vote, not reaching out to all Canadians. Anyway, when he speaks in public, Libs drop in polls. Even the MSM has turned on him, despite their coronation attempts after the Lib Convention. Remember Jane Taber and her "backpack full of ideas" comment?

Remember folks, as Ted says, when Harper makes a misstatement he is a liar, which is evidence that he is a liar (fallacy known as begging the question). When Chretien, Martin lie about GST, NAFTA, and their past attack ads, especially first Martin election, where you would be shot by an unregistered handgun, while trying to get an abortion in a back alley, then wisked off to an aircraft carrier, well that's OK.

What else have they got? Their policies are decidedly left wing, and therefore appeal to narrow range of Canadians (oh, sorry, Harper has narrow ideology), and fight it out for the left vote with NDP and Bloc.

Can't wait to see their platform, if Dion tour any indication. They're freaking out right now, and drop of writ it at least a month away, at the very earliest.

Why are Libs acting so crazy? Because Harper has proved he can sling the mud just as good as them, they have no money to fight back, and their leader is a dud. They have also, due to poor Dion leadership and optics, lost their MSM allies. Dion is now under the microscope and it isn't going well; hence, the need to change focus to Harpers cultlike, mean-spiritied leadership.

The msm has been preaching that the environment has replaced health care as the #1 issue facing cdns. Not according to the suzuki poll. They are also repeating that cdns do not want another election. I think that could be just as misleading and kyoto. Is it the msm who don't want an election, as they fear a Harper majority, and their jobs. I read one report that cbc might be losing a huge part of their funding in the coming budget. Suzuki just asked cdns, If you were PM what would you do. Lets ask, if you could fire some in the msm, who would it be.

Just saw a clip on CNN, did you know there are corn burning stoves on the market. Will heat part of an 8000 sq ft home for 50lbs of corn a day. Guy says he would rather give his money to an american farmer than some country that doesn't like America. Corn for ethonal, corn for stoves, no corn for food. Stock up on your corn flakes before they are an endangered food.

This is the latest news on Caledonia. By way of the CTV which the Moon Bunnies cannot gainsay as conservative.

I think its projects the future of this Country. Tribialized groups each with their own rights in conflict with neighbors, . The multicultural Utopia shown for the divisive collection of lawless collectivities at odds for more money & cluster power.

This is what happens when you have replaced a Justice system based on equality, for a legal system designed not for parity but privilege. Based on who gets the most or least rights, protection, or liberty , because of gender, sexual choice, class, or race .All based on group liberties not individual ones. Some based on psudo-historical claims, others on modern notions of culpability. Think White males.

As Christians are finding out, it also makes it easier for any polity to single out a group to persecute. Think Smokers.

Until all Men & Women are equal under the law without special provision, this is the future writ vast for this Nation. A collection of groups in contention for power, for land, liberty, attention or even undermining this polity.

Just my opinion.

McGuinty cuts talks with Caledonia protesters
CTV.ca News Staff

Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty called off negotiations with Aboriginal protesters in the Caledonia land dispute on Monday after violence erupted last Friday.

"A condition of our being at the table was that public safety would not be compromised," McGuinty told the legislature. "In fact, last Friday it was, without a doubt, compromised."

"We are no longer prepared to continue negotiations."

McGuinty was referring to multiple incidents Friday including the swarming of an elderly couple's car and an alleged assault on two cameramen from a Hamilton television station.

Additionally, a U.S. Border Patrol vehicle was allegedly stolen and driven toward an Ontario Provincial Police (OPP) officer. The officer was injured as he was pulled out of the speeding vehicle's path.

McGuinty would not confirm his next move if talks did not resume saying "We'll see."

Police have issued warrants for six people with charges ranging from attempted murder of a police officer, forcible confinement and robbery.

A seventh warrant is pending on a charge of assault causing bodily harm.

The natives are trying to prevent construction of a housing development on land they claim as their own, and have vowed to stay on the site until there is a resolution to the dispute.

But members of the Six Nations Confederacy say they are not planning to assist police in capturing the alleged suspects.

"I don't think so," Confederacy Chief Allen McNaughton told the Hamilton Spectator when asked if they'd help police.

McNaughton said police could spark more violence if they attempt to apprehend the suspects.

But McGuinty said talks would not resume until police received cooperation in the arrests and if the barricades were removed.

"We have just about exhausted our goodwill and our patience," McGuinty said.

The next scheduled meeting between officials on both sides was scheduled for Thursday but that is now on hold.

Meanwhile, the Opposition Conservatives continued their criticism of how the Liberals were handling the situation.

"There has to be a deadline by which some action will be taken to make sure those barricades come down," Conservative Leader John Tory said Monday.

"We just cannot have a flouting of the rule of law going on continuously. It just isn't acceptable."

The following individuals are being sought by police:

Albert Douglas, 30, of Ohsweken, Ont., faces charges of attempted murder, theft of a motor vehicle, dangerous driving, assaulting a police officer, forcible confinement, robbery and two counts of breaching his bail;

Trevor Miller, 30, of no fixed address, faces charges of robbery and theft of motor vehicle;

Audra Ann Taillefer, 45, of Victoria, B.C., faces charges of robbery and two counts of intimidation;

Skylar Williams, 22, of Ohsweken, faces one charge of robbery;

Arnold Douglas, 61, of Ohsweken, faces two counts of intimidation;

Ken Hill, 47, of Ohsweken, faces two counts of assault; and

An arrest warrant is pending for one male suspect on a charge of assault causing bodily harm.

With files from The Canadian Press

"It was fitting that David ended the cross-Canada portion of the tour at the Terry Fox monument at Mile Zero in Victoria."

Terry Fox finished/stopped his run about "18 miles from Thunder Bay, at the head of Lake Superior", Ontario not at "the Terry Fox monument at Mile Zero in Victoria", British Columbia, as the Suzukiites would wish to imply.

How did Suzuki propel his "cross-Canada portion of the tour"? Not on his two stubby legs; on a diesel-fuelled bus, spewing toxic emissions into the atmosphere.

Suzuki, et al, dishonour Terry Fox's memory by their dishonesty.

Scurrilous scumbag is Suzuki.
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http://www.terryfoxrun.org/english/marathon/default.asp?s=1

While we observe the antics of our socialist asshats here in Canada the Euros's have even bigger problems.
The Muzzies are in fine form across the pond!
http://mickhartley.typepad.com/

Be aware that this is coming here as well!

I must say Mary T. that I am finding the pathetic msm exceedingly funny. People like Giggles, Craigo, New(tiny)man, Travest, etc. are getting desperate. They hate the Conservatives as only a bought and paid for 'trougher' could - they would give their eye teeth to bring life back that sorry corpse of the Liberano/Dipper outfits and the glorious control of the peons and the $$ and the group think- the daze of beer and popcorn - before the 'troubling' internet news media and the huge readership of blogs like sda, shotgun and angry in the great white north. Jack's newswatch has lots of visitors and very worthy commentary too. Reading the 'News ' is once again interesting. PMSH is the ground down Canadian taxpayer's Prime Minister and the elitist msm are going down with their corrupt masters.
As long as the msm called the 'tune' and wrote the songs the well paid so called journalists spewed whatever dirt and lies and slander they could spin. They now wear yellow (bellied) egg on their surly faces and I laugh at them. I actually dislike(d) the msm more than the criminals in the Liberano Party.
The legions of shrills should not be trusted at any time, IMO. They are only speaking (for) the Conservatives and PMSH at the moment, to try to salvage their jobs if all their evil ways fail to stop a Conservative majority in the next election. It is ALWAYS all about 'them".

Having come back from a week in the great white north I must admit that a lot of the ignorance of the Ontario voter can be directly attributed to the msm agenda. I saw more of Dion in one week on Duffy, and other so called news coverage than I ever want to see again. The fact that I cannot recall one thing he was trying to say is immaterial. He and the other opposition parties have a friend in the media. Same with Dr Fruit fly, his word seems like gospel even if he melts down on live radio. Not everyone, especially those in their "golden years" may have a computer for email and pictures of grandchildren but they don't realize there are lots of sources of information available on the information highway. I got more than one look of disbelief when I spoke counter to CBC mantra. Scary.

putting it on the record:

harper will surge in the polls, call an election (aint that the way) MSM will willingly become mouthpiece for the despearte lieberals, support for harper will dip but... too late for stephannnnnn dionnnnn.

we are headed for a slim cpc majority. new democraps will get their nuts cut off (again) and bq will stagnate, possibly take 3rd place.

as a result, stephannnnn dionnnnnn will reconsider the whole thing and resign by end of this year.

ta da !!!