What a grand farce, Kate.

When is Garth going to hold his "bye bye" election?

A lot of stuff.

I'm on his weblog now, pressing CTRL-F and putting in "liberal" and coming up with a lot of things he's going to have to answer for.

Where's the Tsunami money, Garth?

"I am a democrat who believes everyone in the House of Commons, including the cabinet members who make up the government, should be elected. They should sit in Parliament as they were elected. If they decide to change parties, they should go and get re-elected".
Garth Turner

Garth said on being kicked out of the Conservative caucus.

" .....I can now be more effective for you than I was as a member of a caucus where everyone was told to be quiet."

"But I know Independent MPs are rare in Canada. Most politicians think they need to be part of a party to get things done. But as an experienced member of Parliament, I’ve learned how the system actually works, and I’ve now come nose-to-nose with a party discipline in which the views of constituents just don’t matter. I’ve no doubt that as your Indie MP, you will be better served."

So it took four months to go back on these sage pronouncements.
Some rationalizing to come I expect.
It will be interesting to see if some "reward" is offered for his shifting alliance back to a caucus.

http://www.garth.ca/weblog/2006/10/28/local-column-3/

"Everybody who makes up the government should be elected. They should be elected as members of the party that forms the government. Anybody who switches parties should go back to the people. To do otherwise is to place politicians above the people when, actually, it’s the other way around."

Garth Turner, 9th February, 2006.

http://www.garth.ca/weblog/2006/02/09/

"I am a democrat who believes everyone in the House of Commons, including the cabinet members who make up the government, should be elected. They should sit in Parliament as they were elected. If they decide to change parties, they should go and get re-elected."

http://www.garth.ca/weblog/2006/02/09/mr-emerson/

stated principles......or

narcissistic desire for attention

stated principles......or

narcissism

hmmmmmmmmmmm.............

ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME!

(It was inevitable.)

Yes, when the "me me me me me" factor is gone, what next for the Garthster?

After a face to face with his constituents they voted.

"But can one man change the system, I asked? The room thundered in applause amid shouts of “You bet.”

And then we voted.

(1) Resign your seat - zero
(2) Negotiate back into caucus – 17
(3) Join the Liberals - zero
(4) Go Green – 17
(5) Stay independent – 31

How many voted for Liberal again?
www.garth.ca/weblog/2006/10/21/your-bosses-are-in-this-room/

Can hardley wait for Julie Van Dusen's interpretation of Dion's speech welcoming Turner.
Bet she won't tell us what the other Lib Mp's are 'really saying'...

If it happens (ctv subscribing to the highest standards in the field of journalism....lol), If it happens it will just be more evidence that (Mr) Turner is only out for Garth.....

Consider the Khan Defection almost 1 month ago to the day and the Lapierre resignation that made Turner irrelevant as an independent. Before those two events one side might actually have had to court his vote (NDP/Con =153...now 154, lib/block = now at 151..maybe 152).

He is no doubt finding that no power is no fun.

I think this is a great turn of events for the Conservative Party. Garth Turner is total loose canon and any party affiliated with this fellow is going to get what it pays for. He is seemingly incapable of keeping his mouth shut so I wish Mr. Dion luck.

This will again bring out the bias of the MSM . I wonder how much publicity in the MSM will go to shrieking for Garth Turner to resign . I'm sure their will be no criticism of Mr. Dion or Liberal Party from CBC and CTV.

I noticed Jason Cherniak ultimate Liberal hasn't set up a petition demanding that Garth Turner resign his seat.

The double standard is alive and well.

"Dear Editor:

It would a real shame if the Oakville Beaver fell into that camp of Liberal media outlets who have been trying to portray the Conservative Party as a bunch of right-wing, fundamentalist rednecks who are little more than northern George W. Bush wannabes. But your editorial, “Right wing approach failing,” clearly suggests you are at risk.

Let’s get the facts straight: The Liberal government is daily at the Gomery Enquiry being proven to be corrupt and probably criminal. The Liberal government survives only because of a deal with the NDP that lets Jack Layton write the budget. The Liberal government has gone on a $25 billion spending orgy to try and buy support. The Liberal government bribed a Conservative MP with a cabinet seat to win a confidence vote.

And you say Conservatives are scary?

Stephen Harper may not be Mr. Charisma, just a thoughtful and principled man trying to do the right things. And there may be people in this party, like all the others, who are social conservatives and worry about slipping moral values.

But the real goal is finding the best bunch of people to run Canada. Even newspapers should not forget that.

Garth Turner
Conservative Party candidate
Halton"

Garth Turner, May 2005, letter to the editor about "Liberalitis of the Big City papers".
http://www.garth.ca/weblog/2005/05/

Barcs, it is on the globe, star, and citytv websites.

Power is still 154 Con/NDP, 151 Bloc/Liberal, 1 independent, speaker, Lapierre's vacant seat.

As I said on stephen taylor's blog, a great day if you're a conservative. I'm now taking bets as to when McGuinty will get booted out as environment critic for Turner. Mark my words, this is a gift that will keep on giving.

Well, old Garth certainly has his faults, but he always seemed to want Mr. Harper to live up to his promises made regarding Income Trusts. So do I.

You guys may want to email a few of those quotes from Turner to Duffy... I'm sure this will be front and center on Duffy Live today. I think having a few of Garth's recent comments on this issue would be fitting for an open discussion on the subject!

rd

Ah mak introduce on mah fallow Canadiens dis proud momont for bring to mah team anudder "izzy peeble".

You guys may want to email a few of those quotes from Turner to Duffy... I'm sure this will be front and center on Duffy Live today. I think having a few of Garth's recent comments on this issue would be fitting for an open discussion on the subject!

rd

No surprise first rate SOB and tattler and all about me, Garth! has found a home in the Liberal Fold. They are a perfect fit and deserve each other. Wonder what portfolio he will get? It had better be leak proof.

Garth is against floor crossing, but in his case he was booted out, so it's got nothing to do with crossing the floor,anyway that is allowed in our system, forget it.
To the Liberals: May you live in interesting times.

It totally is a crock of shit. But hes nothing more than a self centred (pun intended) fudge packer.

Na na na na........

globe, star, and citytv websites.

Don't forget the CBC too Trev.... All pillars of journalistic integrity... O_o

Anyone want to bet on whether Turner will run in the next soon to be held Liberal leadership campaign??

Garth is going to say it would be impractical to run in a by-election because, as he'll put it, an election could be called at any time.

Unlike with Emerson and Khan, the MSM will not make Turner's floor crossing and the will of constituents the issue, they will fill report air time with what they will refer to as Harper's rigid ways.

In fact, as I'm typing this, the CBC has already begun to spin this.

Don Newman has just said that Garth hasn't crossed the floor because he was sitting as an independant.

This and more is what you're going to see from the MSM.

Yawn.....

Here is my opinion of Garth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpraJYnbVtE

Barcs.....2:02
Anyone want to bet on whether Turner will run in the next soon to be held Liberal leadership campaign??
HAHAHAHAHAHA......HA! good one!

Van Dusen interviewed Elizabeth May who, while disappointed Garth won't joing the Greens, is happy for him and says that she's sure he consulted his constituents and that this is what they wanted him to do.

She added that Turner has joined the Libs for the right reason, unlike the unsavory ways Emerson and Khan did.

She said nothing of Ms. Stronach ... and Van Dusen did not inquire.

Yep, the spin on this has begun.

I can see a tag team of Garth and Mark Holland taking turns sticking a foot in each others mouth.

I can see even a stoic like Harper breaking down in laughter when Garth gets up to ask his first question.

This is entertaining. Turner makes a move and out come the Flying Monkies. I count at least 2 bigoted anti-Francophone comments and one guy who is a confirmed homophobe. Maybe a furhter explanation on why Mr. Turner is now a "fudgepacker" is in order.

In the meantime, thanks for the giggles kids. You never let me down. You're everything I think you are. And less.

Just a random poll - How long before Garth Turner is kicked out of the Liberal caucus?
http://splatto.net/blog/?p=409

Liz J, I'm not bothered about the floor crossing. In fact, it has to be allowed, as an MP is elected as a representative of his constituents, not a representative of his party.

No, I love this story because Garth himself is against what he is doing :-)

Garth had a chance to make history if he would have joined the Green party yet he chose to join the Liberals and once again prove what a mediocre man he really is.

Ah... Garth Turner defects to the Liebrano$$$. Big surprise.

Let them deal with him. Two things will happen: he'll cause as much annoyance for them with his big, stinky mouth as he did for the Tories... or he'll submit to the iron fist and shut his yap like a good little Liberal sheep.

Kate: am I the only one who knows that "HHR" stands for Heritage High Roof and is Chevrolet's response to the Chrysler PT Cruiser?

Folks, that's like a little tiny retro Suburban. I think flames will really make it look hot.

Do I win anything? Of course, I could be making a fool of myself; HHR could mean something else of which I'm unaware...

Whatever... I'm sure that when you're done with the work, you'll rightly take pride in it.

"This is entertaining. Turner makes a move and out come the Flying Monkies."

Don, nice try at the broad swipe.Stick to lib blogs Don, they're more down to your level of intelligence.

Kate,
This is just one more reason why we should never trust a politican!

Well, he has found his perfect home in a party that created the perfect flexible value system.
To be a liberal in Canada today one needs to perfect flexible policy, flexible principals and most of all flexible positions to be altered daily to pander to the loudest whiner.
I hope Garth hoasts his very own, "pity" party for his coming out debut with that guy who is a citizen of france.
only in Canada, eh! what a hoot!

Good point Barcs. I'm sure Turner sensed that Dion would not be leading the libs for long and is narcissistic enough to believe that he will be a shoe in for the Lib leadership when next it happens.

He may have a tough row to hoe as I suspect THE ANNOINTED ONE Justin will have a cakewalk next go around. Dion is just a fill in until Trudeau is old enough to be taken seriously by Toronto.

Noticed a comment on Income Trusts. Give me a break - unbelievable ignorance on this issue.

Maybe this helps:

Business Trusts - yes, distributions will be taxed, so cry me a river. Business decisions based purely on short-term tax advantages deserve to be dealt with as they were.

Energy trusts - income DEFERRAL ONLY using depletion allowance. Part of that will be removed. Every dollar of tax free income flowed out reduced adjusted cost base (ACB) by same dollar. These are unsuitable as core holding in portfolio. No tax difference if in RRSP/RRIF; every cent is income when it comes out

Real Estate Investment Trusts (REITs) - 95% unaffected.

Garth Turner, stop talking about stuff you know just enough about to be dangerous. This is the same guy who told people to borrow from home equity for investments, which is used to pay loan interest. VERY DANGEROUS. No proper financial advisor would let you do this.

The world according to Garth - no MP should be allowed to change parties prior to resignation and byelection, unles it's ME ME ME ME ME!!!

Someone on another thread suggested turner will be appointed Minister of Translation.
QP today, no congratulations from dion, just started to attack. Why does he always have to read his questions, who writes them. Same with Iggy. When a conservative responed he said a year ago cdns elected a new government because they wanted change. Dion did come back with But, the cdn people did not know they were electing a government of mass destruction. Baird then read a stmt on what canada needed to to re ghg etc, and big grins on lib faces, until he said, do you know who said that yesterday, algore. Holland still has laryingitis, no questions. Has he been silenced on order. And who is the dictator, who has strict rules for his caucus. If turner follows that policy it will really tell cdns what he is made of, hot air. But, without crossing, how was he assured of a nomination for any party, the question is what do his constituents think.

"He has a failed track record on his one major issue - achieving Kyoto targets - and that makes him vulnerable to attack."

Garth Turner on Stephane Dion.

http://www.garth.ca/weblog/2006/12/02/

It's going to be great when Stephane asks a Kyoto question during QP and Harper stands up and reads from a sheet containing that quote from Garth.

Harper: "Mr. Speaker, let me tell you what the Liberal MP for Halton said about the Leader of the Opposition..."

It's amazing how quickly one's principles can be rearranged. Does he even know what he stands for anymore?

Don , I interpreted fudgepacker as being full of $hit.

what does it mean in your world?

.....and feigned ignorance from cal2. smaal dead animals is the gigt that keeps on giving. Pore it on boys and girls. We have an election coming. I want to be able to show the folks in my riding the true musings in a right whinger mind. Make a hell of a brochure...

Has anyone seen or heard from dions dream team, volpe, bisson, dryden, and who were the others. How soon they are forgotten. Also noticed no green ribbons on the libs. Guess they got the message, green means hezzbola support and anti Israel.

Calgary Grit Posts:

Turner Turns

I've made it clear in the past that I certainly don't have much time for Garth "It's tough to live off a six figure salary" Turner. I think Harper made the right choice to dump him from caucus, and I don't think the Liberals are any better off with him. ...-

First comment following the post is a spam: LOLOL

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OT

Hope you can post a picture of the finished HHR somewhere. I have one also, and have been thinking of a flame job also!

Turner will fit well in the Hypocrite Party after all of his comments re: floor crossing, Then again I guess he was booted out so of course that will be different. Yup, as i said earlier he will be appointed Dions Minister of Translation, the reason is. Dion will have to give him some sort of job for his loyalty & since Garth's World(blog) is such a hit Where better to promote Dion's Trek of Canadian Domination.

Van Dopey,is too busy trying to slag the military today,to focus on Garth..busy running around the Hill,trying to get MP's to comment on the ALLEGED abuse of prisoners by Can.boys in uniform.When she didn't get the outrage she was looking for,she made comment to Navdeep Bains(Lib).."are you under the impression,that this is something they wanted to sweep under the rug?"Not sure who "they"are,but nice setup you vainglorious,hair-brained idiot!Get the slime out there early,and never miss an opportunity to misrepresent,or slag the military.I think this is more disgusting than her anti-conservative rhetoric,and thankfully the 2 mp's she nailed didn't bite.Cow is too good a word for her!

I have to copy a post I've already made elsewhere on this topic.

With Garth joining the Liberals, I am reminded of something that the late Tommy Douglas said after MP Ross Thatcher (the eventual last ever - so far - Liberal Premier of Saskatchewan) completed his political defection (CCF to Independent to Liberals):

"We had him yesterday. You have him today. Heaven help who has him tomorrow."

I guess i should not have used Minister of, they are not in power So Iam going to revise my prediction for turner's job in Dion's Shallow Cabinet, It will be "Chair of Lost in Translation"

There's a pun thats just waiting to formulate on buying hot air credits, the liberal environmental platform, and Garth going to the liberals.

Any wordsmiths out there want to work on that one?

On Garth's blog: A statement has been scheduled for 5 ET.

Now, if these were real journalists in this country, the knives would be out, re: crossing the floor without a by-election, statements about Dion 60 days ago, etc......

The most inquisitive question we'll probably hear is: "How does it feel to have come to your senses?"

I wonder what Wells and Coyne have to say about this. If Calgary Grit isn't liking this, the best is yet to come, kids.

I give it a week before the Liberal stacked CRTC announces that Garth's MPtv gets mandatory tier one cable carriage.

And which Liberal benefactor has to take one for the team and buy Garth's media firm at a ridiculous premium?

Turner was more of a force and better for the CPC and LPC parties as an independent MP. It appears that his joining the Liberals will do the most good for the CPC if he hopefully maintains and fosters the same attitude with Celine as he did with Harper.
He's the Libs problemo now and they'll soon find out what caucus confidentiality breaches and publicly questioning LPC policy on his blog and in interviews does for party trust and morale. There are very known and public reason for Garth's dismissal from the Tories - I guess Dion has his head in the sand.
Turner had a great opportunity to be the first Green MP. I guess he figured HE couldn't raise enough to contest an election without a big party behind him.
The biggest shame of this is that he counters basically everything he said and claimed to believe in on his blog, in speeches and while stumping.

Key words: Lib MP Dominic LeBlanc; AdScam; Guite; (Alfonso) Gagliano.

Leblanc trots out AdScam; Guite, convicted; Gagliano, evicted. Librano$$$$$$$$$

Khan refuses to share findings on Middle East trip

OTTAWA - Conservative MP Wajid Khan has refused to appear before a parliamentary committee to share the findings of his fall trip to the Middle East as special adviser to the prime minister.

Khan was invited last week by the House of Commons' foreign-affairs committee to discuss his report on the trip, which took him to Syria, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, Israel and Lebanon.

But an aide to Liberal MP Albina Guarnieri, who tabled the invitation, confirmed Monday that Khan has declined to appear.

The decision drew further ridicule from the Liberals, who portray the trip as a junket designed to woo Khan to cross the floor, rather than a serious foreign-policy exercise.

Khan was named special adviser to Stephen Harper on the Middle East in August, while he was still a Liberal MP. He defected to the Conservatives last month. ...

But Leblanc said it was highly unusual for an MP to refuse to appear before a parliamentary committee.

"Chuck Guite appeared. (Alfonso) Gagliano appeared," he said, referring to two major players implicated in the sponsorship scandal. "I find it surprising that Wajid wont appear." ...-
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=eda2951d-7b99-4d67-b71a-9451db7b4c99&k=89405

This is a promoter’s dream now that they’re both working the same circuit.
Garth Turner and Warren Kinsella hold grudge matches in small community halls and arenas across urban Canada. A winner is declared when they throw their opponents ego clear over the top rope.

There could be celebrity managers starting with Carolyn Parrish for Mr. Kinsella. She’d be all decked out in purple tights the same shade as Barney the Dinosaur and she’d constantly be quaffing her thirst by swilling Brights 57 Canadian Sherry from her water bucket. The longer the match the greater the mayhem!

Wayne in Wetaskiwin

On the bright side, none of the online news sites have this significantly displayed as a top story. It's on the front page, but well down. A lot of it is to do with Harper and his "update" speech, if you can really call it an update.

Mary, of course Holland has been told to shut up. He's one of the biggest mouthes, up every day on attack. Suddenly,after a real mess on Adler he's lost for words. He's really not too smart, just mouthy, he's proven that.
The Libranos are really scraping the bottom for attacks, good sign for the Conservatives and ultimately Canada.

Seams Don's spel chequer isn't working or maybe he is not articulate. Garth Turner is the consumate "Me" generation kind of guy.

Re: Pictures of HHR; please do.

Garth gone to the Liebrano's? Wow! Great news!

Gee I am an Atheist and even I am starting to think that there must be a god and that he must be on the Conservatives side!

Liz & Mary: have you noticed where Holland & Mcguinty sit in the commons beside each other with such a look of either anger or concurn. They are always in view behind Dion & Iggy.
My old dad used to say: once a liberal always a liberal, They never shut up, They never listen, They always interupt, They never do anything & are NEVER WRONG in their eyes.

The CBC thinks There is nothing wrong with switching parties as long as you switch to the Lieberal party.

bryanr: Your dad was very perceptive, they are exactly that.
It is so annoying to listen to panels set up by Newman, Duffy and others with the Liberal guests always running overtime and interrupting other guests with impunity.
Watched Goldhawk on CPAC Sunday and Geoff Regan was obnoxious, took over the show. Goldhawk showed his Liberal bent and let him go as per usual.
Goldhawk does a poor job. It's a phone in show and very few calls get taken, it's all banter with his chosen guests.
The choices we have to keep informed stink. Hopefully more and more people are becoming aware of it.

Who cares???

Canoe Forums:

http://live.canoe.ca/Words/News/YourSay/2007/02/06/3540773.html

Q: Can you trust Turner?

Comments:

As a voter in his riding, all I can say is that I am disgusted. Garth is simply putting his own personal interests ahead of his constituents'. I don't believe that the Liberal's policies are consistent with Garth's published political policies, so what gives? Is he changing his political views simply for the power? Looks to me like he has caved in, all for the wrong reasons. The only ones who lose now are those of us who put him power. Will this type of self-serving behaviour ever end? I think they should legislate something to prevent this sort of thing from happening. We see this bait-and-switch bull all too often.
D., 2007-02-06 13:37:02

He would be a perfect fit for the Fiberals
Jimbob, 2007-02-06 13:24:10

I believe Garth is so bitter he never received a cabinet post- he has lost his common sense. Unfortunately I voted for him
Dwain, 2007-02-06 13:15:43

Turner is a self serving sanctimonious blowhard that will say anything to get the attention of the press. The Liberals deserve Garth Turner.
r mcleod, 2007-02-06 13:15:20

Speaking of political stumble bums, seeing Turner stagger to the adscam party reminded me that this date in 1977 Rene Levesque ran over a homeless man with his car while in an intoxicated state killing the homless man instantly. Levesque then left the scene of the accident without stopping. After a lot of quiet meetings with Levesque's lawyer and Police, Levesque is fined 25 dollars for not wearing his glasses. Levesque's Lawyer is now an LPC strategist.

30 years later to the day the voters of Halton watch their MP pull a hit and run on his constituents and walk away with full pay and handshakes.

Seems incidentally remarkable to see two such acts of tacit consent occur on the same date.

JASON CHERNIAK: TURNER SHOULD RESIGN AND RUN IN BY-ELECTION (national newswatch)

Cherniak was Citoyen Dion's co-chairman of something re the internet for Citoyen. Online petition to follow?
(Who can set up a spoof site?)

Fear and loathing, disgust, and back-biting, in the ranks of the Librano$.

This may be the buster/breaker/bam the dog of Citoyen Dion's bubbles, visions, and dreams. ...-

Dion must be thrilled now. He thinks he's getting someone who'll be his Ontario face during the election while he takes care of Quebec. Then he can tell the prairies and the maritimes to pound sand.

Mr. Dion may think he's getting a political bulldog for his caucus, but in fact he's getting a nippy chihuahua with a Napoleon complex. Run, Stéphane! Go warn Kyoto!

Probably too late to save page sources. I believe the whole site was down getting "cleaned" last night, before the announcement. I think he took a lesson from the Belinda fiasco.

The Halton EDA was warned by the membership that Turner was a flake but they went with the belly crawling turn coat because they felt he has name recognition....well I guess we' recognize that name now..."Turner"...as in coat.

Did you see Turner's spin on his video? He won't run in a byelection unless Harper ALSO calls byelections for Khan, Emerson, and Fortier as well. In other words, Turner's changed his own tune. How very lieberal of him.

Hey Don, are you sitting there with the comments up just waiting for someone to notice you? Well now you are noticed now just go away as we are boring you with our childishness.

Garth Turner in 2005:

"... I keep on looking for whole streets and neighbourhoods full of Liberals, but I have not found them yet! This tells me that a lot of folks in the last couple of elections voted Liberal because they felt there was no realistic, credible political alternative. But now with the Conservative Party stronger, more unified and more identified as a mainstream, ready-to-govern organization, all that is changing. Suddenly most voters are accessible to us – even looking to Conservatives in Halton and across Canada to provide the alternative they so desperately seek." (Garth Turner, Halston Conservative Party Association newsletter, Fall 2005)

"Conservatives believe in Canada. We believe our country can be a better place, free of corruption and scandal, where people respect their MPs once again and where ethics and politics, finally, are one and the same. " (Ibid)

"Halston needs a Conservative in Ottawa and Canada needs a Conservative government."(Halston Conservative Party Association newsletter, Winter 2005)

'Just caught the 5:00 p.m. news on CBC, having been working all day, and not a word about criticism of Garth Turner for having joined the Liberals: in fact, a coy-sounding female reporter saying that as she was speaking (at that very moment) Garth Turner was having a press conference. She sounded all warm and cozy about it.

Elizabeth May was quoted as saying she didn't feel jilted at all and that if Garth ever changed his mind he was welcome in the Green Party anytime.

Oh, yes, then Jim Flaherty was interviewed. He said that Garth was a "lost soul" and was looking for someplace to land.

But absolutely no call for him to resign. The CBC couldn't/wouldn't find someone to call Turner on his Turn(er)cote floor crossing to the Libs. We all know when the shoe's on the other foot, there is bellowing from all over for the new Conservative member to resign and go to his/her electorate to see what they say.

Well, it's the CBC, after all. But how transparently biased. Like the new dispensation in society, there's no fear and no shame: Ya do what ya want when ya want. Who the H*ll cares if it's fair?

Garth Turner on the last Liberal Party budget:

“Outrageous gasoline prices are a good example, since Ottawa contributes to the problem by raising the cost of gas some 30% through excessive taxation.

“The growing cost of mortgage money is another, since the recent Liberal-NDP budget raised spending by almost $5 billion. Economists warned this would result in higher interest charges, and that’s exactly what’s happening."

Dion apparently said, in response to a question that he has been assured by turner that he will maintain caucus secrecy. Newman says this shows that dion is aware of his blog.
Gerald Kennedy is going up against Peggy Nash in the next election. Long time woman lib mp from that riding is stepping aside for him. Where is that plan of dions to have women candidates to run in so called former safe ridings. A 3 term lib woman kicked out for Kennedy. He held that seat in the provincial government for 10 years. Hey, the voting area in fed and prov ridings are much different, and maybe those voting for him before live in other ridings. Of course, he could follow landslide annies and volpes voting list with dead voters.

Garth has a screw loose. This only looks bad on one man - CELINE DION - who would actually take this guy in! And to get him, Celine must have made him some promises, like a place in the cabinet that he will never have a chance to assemble. So, now that Garth has hitched his wagon to Dion's horse, what happens when Dion gets ousted as leader later this year?

The Liberals have absolutely no self-awareness.

And the most delicious tidbit fr.press conference,was who facilitated the jump to the Libs????? JOE,the kiddies pal,VOLPE. Now that speaks volumes about Garth's integrity.I loved the comment by Borat,that he believed GT to be "discreet"..he is screwed in the head.Nice shout-out in his comments on PMSH speech today to "the Pacific Gate-a-way"..then the ridiculous remark,that "Harper needs to tell all Canada,in both English and French,what his plans are"...DUH!!! Ditto,Dion...and it has to be comprehensible ENGLISH.

I-Me-My and I-I-I; two narcissists. And Betty May.

Le Triage; Red-Tory; Red-Green; Green-Red....-

However, he said he found that being an Independent had its drawbacks. For example, he couldn't sit on parliamentary committees

or issue tax receipts for donors.

"Mr. Dion is welcoming me even knowing that I was a pain," Turner joked. "Even worse, that I was a journalist."

However, he said Dion would allow him to be his own person. "So I'm thankful that a Progressive Conservative refugee like myself has found a home in this country."

Dion said Turner would be expected to uphold caucus confidentiality.

"She [May] still loves me," he said jokingly. May described Turner as a friend....-
ctv.ca

His "Special Webcast" is the funniest thing I have seen in years:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2606788191064370553&hl=en-CA

From the 1970s-vintage Peace Tower intro, to the endless wandering around, to his posing in front of the Kim Campbell portrait, to the sanctimonious soul-searching, to his ridiculous justifications for joining the Liberals, this is pure comedy gold! A more self-deluded individual, I haven't seen. He's off his meds.

Was it a coincidence that Turner and Dion had a news conference right around 5PM to take away from another incredible speech by Harper today at the Canadian Club in Ottawa?

The rat's butt's in MSM gave Harper short exposure in favor of Garth! and his new found home with the Professor of Garble, Dion.

For anyone with a brain and thought process beyond a turnip, hearing Harper's speech would give the assurance we are in good hands.

''Last, I am most happy to run in a by-election along with Emerson, Fortier and Khan. Fair is fair, and I challenge PMSH to set a date. I’ll resign 36 days earlier and campaign with pleasure. Bring it on.

posted by Garth Turner on 02.06.07 @ 4:46 pm''

Turner said floor-crossers should run in byelections
But Turner was also critical of the government while he was a member of the party. Notably, he denounced Harper's decision to swear Emerson into cabinet. Emerson crossed the floor after being elected as a Liberal in January 2006.

Turner said then that anyone who crossed the floor should step down and run in a byelection

Repocreepo scooped the Turnerround. ...-

Monday, January 22, 2007
Recent rumblings..

Numbers in Halton have it that if Turner runs as Independent, he splits vote with the CPC... Liberal runs up the middle (modern day Reform vs PC vote split). So its being said that Turner takes the Liberal nod and tries to squeek through for re-election. This way he wont be a floor crosser like Emerson or Khan. He will sit as an independent until the election then run as a liberal and "let the people decide."

If you read his blog, he's been on the anti tory attack now for some time...and it does make sense for Dion in the short and long term. He gains high profile attack dog for Harper whos been on the "inside" of the tory war room and one more seat to topple the government if needed.

From what I've heard its pretty much a done deal...timing of the announcement is the only issue. Most likely within the next couple of weeks....-
http://repocreepo.blogspot.com/2007/01/recent-rumblings.html

Hmm, let's see, Conservative MPs who are a detriment to the party -- Stronach the would-be queen, Brison with his drah-mah, and now the man who likes to pee in his own tent -- cross over to the Liberals, while Liberal MP's who are an asset to their party -- Emerson, Khan -- move to the Conservatives. Anyone see a pattern here?

As for Garth, well, go man go! Speak your mind. I'm sure you'll have lots to say over the next few years, and I bet there'll be a lot of open mikes at the Liberal leadership convention in '08. People need to know what you think -- you know they do.

Maryjane, Turner doesn't have to wait for the Prime Minister. He can resign any time. If he doesn't then he is a hypocrite.

Tankyou gart turner for you hol da bucket wow I tek a pisss, dat iw whaaa a deemocrazzy r all abow Stepon Dion.

How long can/will the msm keep covering for dion. Do they want an election now because they know that soon they will have to tell the truth. Too many cdns are discovering how biased they are. Another 6 months and no one will pay them any attention. Harpers speech was great, and understandable.
Everyone should go over to Rush and read George Wills on Kyoto. He is urging the senate to re-consider it. He then points out many inconvenient truths re Kyoto. It failed to pass during clinton, with the vote 95-0 against kyoto. 56 of the 95 senators voting no are still there, including Kerry. Oh, and who was the leader of the senate when it was defeated, the VP at the time. Does the name algore ring a bell. Why has no one ever asked him why he and clinton were against it.

Barf Turnip willone day wake up and relize he is truely an NDP'r, as he's not even smart enough to be a lieberal

he wanders around in my area quite often and non of us conservatives here have any use for him

Garth Turner is getting ripped to pieces by Breckenridge tonight. (QR 77 archives 7:00pm) In fact I've never heard Rob B. so adversarial. He's absolutely ripping Turner to pieces. It's brilliant! Turner is stammering and stumbling and Rob B. is relentless. Turner has never experienced this kind of questioning and it shows. Click... he just hung up at the end of the interview. The 7:30 to 8:00 half hour portion of the show has a caller now chastising Rob for being to hard on Turner. Says it makes us westeners look bad. Idiot. Garth Turner and others need this kind of treatment once in awhile because it keeps them real. They are treated with kids gloves on the MSM. Steven Taylor now being interviewed. This is a must listen everyone and maybe a thank you email to Rob Brekenridge is in order.

How many liberals are in the liberal caucus, not counting floor crossers. And, all the crossers are getting even because they were rejected for leader or cabinet. Anyone heard or seen bs lately, is she blond or black. Still lots of little tidbits on US sites re Bill and his canadian mistress. What happened to Tie.
Then we have Kennedy, kicking a 3 term lady liberal mp out so he can run. What happened to more women candidates. Must be a thing of the past for dion. Sheila must be laughing.

Then we have Kennedy, kicking a 3 term lady liberal mp out so he can run. What happened to more women candidates.

Dion will make up for it by renaming his dog "Germaine Greer".

(Not my joke, forgot where I heard it.)

Well to be absolutely accurate, re: Kennedy, Bulte won in 97, 2000, 2004, Nash (NDP, and female) won in 2006. It was assumed that Bulte would run again, and then Kennedy comes in and nulls that.

Now, we did hear that Kennedy would consider running out west in the leadership convention. We did hear that Mr. Dion did commit to 1 of every 3 Liberal candidates in the next general election would be female. Worth questioning is what to do with one Bob Rae, himself a resident of the riding that Mr. Kennedy now plans to run in, and actually a much longer serving resident than Mr. Kennedy.

Business as usual in Liberal land.

After allowing turner to sit as a liberal, with all his baggage, is there any doubt that dion will take back all those kicked out of the party.
I went over to sign a petition at Jason's but there isn't one. And I wasn't even going to be sarcastic.
Has anyone got the votes per candidate for turners riding last January.
Someone posted that he only won because of the protest vote. Who protested against what.
He said he would run in a by-election if, emmerson etc also ran. He forgets, if he resigns, Harper has 6 months to call an election.
When does LaPierre leave for his new job.
Wonder how dion likes having 2 martins and a turner in his midst. Is paul ever there.
Is it my imagination or does iggy always look like he is addressing a bunch of lesser humans when he gets up to speak, whether on Newman, Giggles, or QP. I have been paying a lot of attention to body language and facial expressions. Dion always looks like his face is frozen in time, maybe too much botox.

Who gives a flying #%$%!, Garth will surely help the Lie-beral cause. HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!

The link to the Turner/Breakenridge interview is here ... bring up Tue Feb 6 ... 7 pm. Turner for first half hour, then callers for 20 mins, then Stephen Taylor for 10 mins.

One is a scheming megalomaniac, the other an attention-starved windbag: can you tell them apart?

So this is what is ruffled feathers looks like.

Okay, I'm having a horribly hard time getting any sort of outrage over Turner. He was removed from his party, after all. Now the Liberals can deal with him. In fact, I'm having a hard time even caring about this piece of news. Big deal; big surprise.

What a hipocritical arse.

Ok, lets see if I got it right. CPC throws Garth into a dumpster. dion goes out garbage picking and spots an MP chattering away. dion says something no one understands and takes the MP. Green dion ... he even recycles MPs. Dream team material.

I was on my way to the Flames game when Rob got a hold of THE GARTH. I just got home (what a collapse and the hund I dropped at the Big 4 afterwards pretty much summed up the night...*sigh*) Such is life.

On a happier note the audio vault is working! Without a doubt the funniest thing I've heard on the radio since a good one came with an 8-track.

Rob stuck to his guns and they were all loaded with 00 buckshot.

BTW I caught the press conference on Puffy Live. Garth and Stephane (is Stephane french for Wayne?)

Party time!!! Excellent!!!!!

Bbbwwwwaaaahhhhaaahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

And my final thought....I do have some understanding of the psychology of ownership language...that is to say "ownership" of one's personal experience.

In the first five minutes of that interview Garth uses "I" and "Me" at a rate that would embarass Narcissus.

Interestingly enough wiki has this on narcissism..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism

I find this line the most pertinent:

In psychology and psychiatry, excessive narcissism is recognized as a severe personality dysfunction or personality disorder, most characteristically , also referred to as NPD.

If I read the writing on the wall correctly....heads up Jack.....Garth is only one dyselexic slip away from being a dipper.

Party on!!!!! Excellent!!!!!

Syncro

SomeOne above thought Garth was NDP so the Halton NDP Riding Association had Their Nomination Meeting Last Night & the Greens have a Candidate Already
http://www.robertwagner.ca/
re :
Barf Turnip willone day wake up and relize he is truely an NDP'r, as he's not even smart enough to be a lieberal
he wanders around in my area quite often and non of us conservatives here have any use for him
Posted by: GYM at February 6, 2007 8:47 PM

My my. Looks like Mr. Free Speech Garth Turner is moderating comments on his blog.

What a (Liberal) loser.

My reaction to the announcement? I'm torn between disinterest and pity. Of course, he jumped to the LIberals.

Pity...as in "pity you weren't disinterested enough to shut up about it." Sensible people shouldn't give a rat's ass what you think, since you were one of the first to jump in and claim the Emerson defection was a savvy tactical move that Conservatives should appreciate.

Nice consistency there, Kate.

"Garth will maintain caucas secrecy" Haaa that's a Joke.
During the interview Dion Looked to become very Nervous at that point, Well he should be. I can very well imagine what the backroom boys are saying, Thanks but No Thanks.

I wish I'd gotten a screenshot of this, but the header on his site used to say:

"Leadership through principle and independence".

Apparently after joining the liberal party, Garth must feel he has lost his principles along with his independence, cuz it doesn't say that, now. At least he's being honest with himself, if noone else.

Meet the Red-Greens: I-Me-My and I-I-I. What is the connection? The Sierra Club.

The Mole has a huge pic of the Red-Greens on their green lilypad: We are so happy, we could s**t.

Press Release: lib.ca
Mr. Turner, who has previously served as a national director of the Vancouver-based Sierra Legal Defence Fund,...

Party On, Garth!

Bill Carrol on CFRB in TO. just ripped Garth a new one.

The ex-wordsmith could'nt smith together enough of them, and hung up on CFRB when his position became indefensible!

Made my week, that something like that slipped through the great liberal filter covering the socialist domed city.

Pity...as in "pity you weren't disinterested enough to shut up about it." Sensible people shouldn't give a rat's ass what you think, since you were one of the first to jump in and claim the Emerson defection was a savvy tactical move that Conservatives should appreciate.
Nice consistency there, Kate.

It is perfectly consistent. Nobody here is claiming that Garth shouldn't cross the floor because that is a wrong thing to do. This may be a savvy move on the Liberals' part, or it may not, time will tell. The issue is that Garth is now doing exactly that which he spent months ranting and raving against. It is the most astounding example of hypocrysy in recent memory and he deserves all the ridicule and scorn he is getting.

Posted by: Kate-hater

Nice. You are the kind of person I avoid in real life.

Katehater. Nice, lots of thought process put into that, about as much as the idiotic rant afterwards.

Noticed all the empty seats on the liberal side today. Were those mps protesting turners arrival.
Holland still has lost his voice.

Are any of the loggers, and other employees of lumber companies in BC thanking Mr Emmerson for the rebates their companies are receiving. Garth is still furious he didn't get a cabinet post. Can you imagine the trouble he would have caused if he had. Thank you to the Ont caucus for seeing thru this mp and kicking him out. Turner is not getting a lot of positive press out of this. Wonder if any of his words will appear in campaign ads.

Turner is a liberal for a few hours and his first order is for the PM to order members to resign. I didn't know a PM could do that. He also ordered the PM to set up by-elections, when there are no vacancies. Lets have a by-election in dions riding. Turner also wants a by-election for Fortier, does that mean he supports senate elections. Who does Turner want to resign so Fortier could run. Turner said he would resign 36 days before a by-election. I thought things worked the other way around. Why doesn't turner run in LaPierres riding in a by-election, as he has resigned. And how come the liberals have not told turner he can not make policy. What does the constitution say about an opposition member ordering the PM to call by-elections when there are not vacancies. We have the media treating dion as if he is the PM and now we have turner telling the PM how to do things.

Travers just told Newman that he thinks Turner will win the seat as a liberal as the voters are Turner voters, not party voters. He also said that Graham was a better leader of opposition in QP, and dion reading soft questions, (in poor english, my words)does not leave a good impression. The other guy said all dion talks about is the environment and when he attempts to talk about anything else, no one can understand him. They both praised Iggy. Newman said he had to get Holland out there again, no mention of his there will be consequences stmt. As the media has ignored it, maybe newman doesn't know he said it.
Travers also said dion has lost stature since the leadership, and has not been defined yet.
Is there something going on in the backrooms we don't know about. Is dion soon going to get an incurable disease and have to resign. He has it already, called foot in mouth disease.

I still like Mr.Turner, though I'm disappionted with his decision. He's a loose cannon, and he stirs up the hooey. Perhap's he's like a bird dog; chasing the flighty, ghostal, peripheral crap out of each party.
I think he's good for democracy. I suspect that after he finishes trashing the Liberal party, he'll come home. That would be ideal, though I'm not holding my breath.
And Yeah, I think he's self-centered and full of shit, but still, try as he might, I don't think he's a Liberal.