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January 28, 2007

RelapseTV

Because letters from "Shocked and Appalled" are the best part!

"Trudeau said the State had no business in the bedrooms of the nation. Apparently this doesn't apply to toboggan hills. First we need to nuke the Amazon rainforest so I don't have to hear about it anymore. Then we need to train all the endangered species to fight terrorists because clearly, our helmet wearing, peanut-allergic wimpy children won't be prepared to do so."

Update - now up at Youtube thanks to Mississauga Matt.

Posted by Kate at January 28, 2007 11:44 AM
Comments

I like it... thank you very much.

Posted by: marc in calgary at January 28, 2007 1:21 PM

Progressive/Socialist/Communist thinking has created several generations of these wimpy children. Since the 60's revolution, society has been inundated with sissified morals, values, philosophies, laws etc. that have completely diluted our survival instincts. In other words, we have none.

There is something wrong when our children will roll out the welcome mat for terrorists and those who hate our way of life. There is something @#$%^^&&* wrong in our world when those defending our country and democracy are degraded, ridiculed and de-humanized.

I do not want to live under Islamofascism. I do not want to be governed by Sharia law or the Progressive class. I do not want Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Lebanon etc. life, religion, culture, law, and mindset in North America.

The hippies of the 60's propogated, and they and their children are willingly and knowingly castrating western liberal democracy.

Posted by: Gypsy at January 28, 2007 1:29 PM

Sadly, Canadians are largely soft headed. Ask any Canadian about global warming, the causes and more importantly, the evidence. From the smartest you'll get automobile emissions; that you can see the evidence everywhere, like the recent arctic ice chunk falling off. Ask about Kyoto and you'll get that it is the solution; that the Europeans are doing it; and that, afterall, it must be right because big oil is against it.

Ask about Muslim violence and you'll get that it's not just Muslims, it's Christians - that all religions are equally violent. That American and European imperialism caused Islamic terrorism, so therefore violence is predictable, if not justified. That we need to create real dialogue in order to see both sides equally. And most of all, the hypocritical warning not to provoke them.

The typical Canadian sees the world through their own subjective, altruistic and liberal lens. Having not been exposed to fact, or too lazy or unmotivated to seek out the truth - we've arrived at another, equally viable truth. Despite the fact that it's feel good buffoonery, based on feelings. Few Canadians with an opinion about any of the more important topics have ever studied any of them, even on a tertiary basis. This is especially true with understanding Islam. Which in my opinion presents far more of a danger than so-called global warming.

Those are just typical, everyday Canadians. After that it breaks down into the various factions of the Moonbat Nation. They'll point to a video clip at youtube showing squibbs exploding prior to WTC#7 imploding - and say, I told you so, George Bush did it. This absolute conclusion without asking the question - maybe, just maybe, did somebody doctor the clip?

This irrational conversation only becomes more bizarre, creating rifts in society that are growing ever wider and therefore creating a society where we are ever more unlikely to resolve important issues and successfully secure a positive future.

Posted by: irwin daisy at January 28, 2007 2:16 PM

*
Oh... you conservative meanies!!!

If the United States can put a man
on the moon... then why can't George
Bush do something about those
poor people
on Gilligan's Island?

*

Posted by: neo at January 28, 2007 3:31 PM

I like this "relapsed" world view...particularly as it seems to offer a needed venting with reciprocal rediculous counter argument to Politically Correct servility and puritanism...quite a hoot. :)

I say "joke 'em" if they can't take a FXXk ;-)

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at January 28, 2007 3:38 PM

Some of the above is truly idiotic...."peanut-allergic wimpy children"?

Oh, I get it. All children who are allergic to peanuts are wimpy.

funny how some minds can jump from one idea to another with no logical thread.

Posted by: anonymous at January 28, 2007 3:54 PM

Some of the above is truly idiotic....

A is "shocked and appalled".

Truly the best part, lol.

Posted by: ol hoss at January 28, 2007 4:19 PM

gypsy's comment about the hippies propogating struck a nerve....born in 1959, I am stuck in the middle of the hippie generation and their first born....both have ridiculed me for being a soldier, my political beliefs, my stand on the environment(I was right about nuclear power,incineration and recycling), etc, etc, etc....they have called me a nazi(my grandfather fought the nazis), racist(I am the son of an immigrant), mysoginist(I have 3 daughters, and 4 sisters), etc, etc, etc....man!!!!!

Posted by: kingstonlad at January 28, 2007 4:44 PM

Hey ol hoss.....who's shocked and appalled??? (g?)

Good thing you can laugh at your own jokes.

Silly fool.

My point was that kids are who are allergic aren't all wimps. It's strange to jump from one idea to another as if there's a connection, just because you do that.

However, carry on. this is silly.

I'll just let all of the mensa members carry on their intelligent conversations.....now, that's truly the best part....:-)

Posted by: anonymous at January 28, 2007 5:30 PM

kingstonlad,

I know what you mean. I was with some friends in a pub last week and an uninvited knob decided to evesdrop. We were talking about Muslim immigration when I suggested a moratorium until there's a rational plan on integration. He then interjected with an insensed, frothing "that's the most outrageous thing I've ever heard!" I told him he must live a boring life then. I went on to say that he had no right to an opinion in this discussion since he had not participated in it up until then, was not invited, and obviously was uninformed about the topic. He yelled bigots and ran off.

Typical. Perhaps we need a relapsed world view. These wierdo rejects from Haight/Ashbury might huff and puff themselves into a heart attack.

Posted by: irwin Daisy at January 28, 2007 5:48 PM

Pravda responds

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/01/28/ads-dion.html

I think the best attack ad ever would be just any snippet of Borat Dion speaking followed by various members holding their sides and crying.

as for the electorate , hold your nose and cry.

Posted by: cal2 at January 28, 2007 6:28 PM

My point was that kids are who are allergic aren't all wimps.

True, those who are allergic to involuntary socialism are not wimps.

Posted by: ol hoss at January 28, 2007 7:55 PM

In case anybody had any contrary opinion as to what side a certain regular SDA poster named Jose is on.

A posting from a 'spectacularly obtuse' Liberal blog. liberalcatnip.blogspot.com/2007/01/to-those-who-deny-mr-arars-innocence.html

"To a large extent Canada's right wing blogosphere is a very large, high tech circle jerk."

Jose

"Welcome, Jose. You're certainly spot on with that comment."

Catnip

Posted by: irwin Daisy at January 28, 2007 8:08 PM

As a parent of one strong-willed, hockey playing, bump and grinding, won't-take-no-for-an-answer, will-always-do-things-his-way five year old with whom I've spent a night in the emergency ward after he puked his guts out for an hour and tried to soothe him from the stomach cramps and the dark red hives all over his body following the ingesting of half a peanut... I'll echo anonymous's comment up above: what gives with the inclusion of peanut allergies, Kathy? How is my son a wimp in your world?

Ted

Posted by: Ted at January 28, 2007 9:56 PM

This gets funnier and funnier. heh

Posted by: ol hoss at January 28, 2007 10:17 PM

Red Ted, it's considered poor form (outside of the 416 area code anyway) to use your stunt kid as a prop in internet arguments. You're probably hoping someone here will say mean stuff about your brat - like maybe call him a wuss - so you can play vicitim, eh? Pretty sleazy to use your kid that way, even by Liberal standards.

I for one applaud MAINSTREAM Kathy Shaidle's speaking the truth about ridiculously racist white people who support Barack *only* because he is black. Canada needs more people like Shaidle who judge people on content of character, not colour of skin.

Posted by: Bob at January 28, 2007 10:48 PM

A funny coincidence... Liberal Catnip dropped by my place today to
display that famous colossal leftbot lack of reasoning skills... this
time about Islamofascism
.

Libnip said... "Did you write a similar post about Christianity and the
bible when Timothy McVeigh killed children in the Oklahoma City bombing?"

Of course, the catch here is that McVeigh was about as Christian as Osama
bin-Laden. The rumour that he was a fundamentalist is simply a selective
'progressive media' canard...

But hey, repeat it enough times... it's a Lib thing.

"Reporting on his execution, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution described
McVeigh as "an avowed agnostic" whose sudden last-minute decision to
see a Catholic priest just before his execution surprised everyone who
knew him."

"As recently as July 2001, even a lefty like Barbara Ehrenreich
(writing in the Progressive) did not portray McVeigh as having religious
motives. She called McVeigh a "homegrown neo-Nazi mass murderer,"
yes; Christian fundamentalist, no."

Posted by: neo at January 28, 2007 11:04 PM

Actually, Bobby, I actually don't disagree with the content of Kathy's comment on Barak, just the way she so often lately chooses to be insulting in the way she says it instead of humourous or satirical the way she has in the past. I've yet to see or understand what all the fuss is about Obama as a presidential candidate. If he was running for Rep. and to a much lesser extent when he was running for Senate, I can understand getting excited about new charismatic leaders choosing to run for your party. But for cripes sake, let the man accomplish something before treating like he's the next great thing (or any great thing!).

But all of that is entirely beside the point because this post was about Kathy's comment that kids are wusses because they have peanut allergies.

So, being a father of a kid who is (a) no wuss and (b) highly allergic to peanuts, I'm curious about what Kathy finds so disgusting about my kid.

That's all.

It's not sleazy to bring a dose of real context into a rabid rant, Bobby. If she really believes what she writes, then she must believe in a real context with real kids, not just in the abstract.

I've mentioned my kid on SDA before and have every reason to believe that Kate's readers will be as decent today as they have been in the past, you and Kathy notwithstanding, Bobby.

Posted by: Ted at January 28, 2007 11:10 PM

It's because of shows/stations like the one linked to in the article, that I'm happy I founded the Teleban. Some TV just needs bannin'.

Posted by: Saskboy at January 28, 2007 11:56 PM

Yesh! Ted, give it up.the comment was not "that kids are wusses because they have peanut allergies". Be accurate.

The quote was: "helmet wearing, peanut-allergic wimpy children won't be prepared to do so". Kathy is not claiming that peanut-allegic kids are by nature, wimps. But rather, when we try to protect every individual from every possible adverse event, they become reliant on others - specifically big government, to protect them.

That goes for protecting us from radical Islamofascists, too. The 'average' Canadian doesn't really belive there is a threat to their way of life, and even if there was, it's their government's job to take care of it.

The best way to deal with a bully is to deck 'em - not to run to teacher, wanting your tears wiped away.

Posted by: Randy at January 29, 2007 12:33 AM

Yep. The problem isn't a kids peanut allergy - it's society over-reacting and banning all peanutbutter sandwiches from schools. The comment was meant as a jab at our society as a whole, not as a way to make fun of kids who are allergic to peanuts.

Posted by: Alex at January 29, 2007 1:14 AM

Awww, now you went and explained it and spoiled all the fun.

Posted by: ol hoss at January 29, 2007 1:50 AM

Thank you Randy & Alex.

Posted by: kathy Shaidle at January 29, 2007 5:41 AM

Thank you Randy & Alex.

I'm not sure how thrilled I am about this being on YouTube, only because I have a face for radio and the clip may make your screens melt. Invoice me for new ones.

Posted by: kathy Shaidle at January 29, 2007 5:43 AM

Thanks Randy & Alex. Also, I'm not sure how I feel about that being on YouTube as I have a face for radio. If any of your screens melt, send me the bill.

Posted by: kathy Shaidle at January 29, 2007 5:47 AM

"... our helmet wearing, peanut-allergic wimpy children won't be prepared to do so."

Nice re-interpretation fellas.

Kathy, why do you think a kid who has a peanut allergy will be too wimpy to protect you from Islamofascists?

Ted

Posted by: Ted at January 29, 2007 7:27 AM

Because all the islamofascists have to do is obtain devices that spew peanut butter, and it will be all over.

While the vast majority of Canadians are law-abiding peanut eating citizens who use and store their peanut products responsibly, there are too many deaths from peanut related reactions - especially when children get access to them.

And what's to stop a peanut toting maniac from taking his sticky weapons into a school to pull a Columbine?

Of course - if we were to ban the sale and ownership of peanuts and peanut products, that can never happen.

If it saves one life.

Posted by: The Tomato Sandwich Ribbon Campaign at January 29, 2007 8:16 AM

You mean Islamofascists don't have peanut allergies too? Heavens to Betsy we're through now.

Although personally I haven't seen a downside to wearing a helmet for dangerous things, since its saved my life on one occasion. Your mileage may vary. Some children cave to peer pressure and don't take the minimum precautions.

It's laughable for instance that you'd rant about how the Islamofascists are going to destroy us, while in the meantime your kid is having a brain hemorrhage from falling off the ATV.

Posted by: Saskboy at January 29, 2007 8:26 AM

It's been explained to you Ted. Why is the political always so personal with progressives?

Our children are now living in a cocooned world of helmets, this or that banned food, torn down "dangerous" playgrounds, no dodgeball, conflict free games, no playing outside, heavily medicated kids with ADD and whatever the trendy, made up disorder of the month is, etc. As someone with children you know this even better than I do. We are raising up generations of timid, risk averse children and this is bad for society.

Try to see beyond your immediate family to the larger picture.

Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at January 29, 2007 8:57 AM

Actually, Kathy, I agree with almost all that you write there. We do shelter our kids too much in some ways (not enough in others) and too many parents expect/wait for government to do the parenting for them by passing safety laws when good parenting should be enough.

But allergies are different. So I'm speaking as a parent of a kid with a severe peanut allergy, not as another opportunity to take a political shot. For some reason you picked out an allergy - for a small few a deathly allergy and for many an excruciating and heart-in-the-throat trip to emergency - that would seem to not fit the others.

The only time we step in and don't allow you to exert this important "right" to give your kid a Reese's Peanut Butter Cup as a snack with his lunch bag, is when the kids are too young to understand what could happen if touched/taunted/spread/kissed. Any kid who has such an allergy is no doubt well trained - my son knew how to give himself a needle from the age of 3 and even once asked a teacher if the banana she offered him had any traces of peanuts - but I've had to fend off one parent who tried to convince my son it was ok to have some M&Ms. And then she berated me for being overly protective.

So, yeah, I'm sensitive to this issue. Too many adults don't give a crap and so too many other kids are going to put my son at risk.

And, yeah, I do make it personal. Not because of any political leanings but because the attitude, the sweeping attitude, that overprotection and biological realities can be swept up into the same problem can actually have a real personal effect on my family.

And, yeah, I will always speak up for my kids and my family for their protection and as an educator on the issue.

In fact, it is very ironic that you are telling me to see beyond my family Kathy. More often than not it is conservatives decrying the personal or family effect of laws intended for the "general good".

(Having said that, I honestly appreciate the even tone of your response, with only a little hint of the typical attack and insult. Allergies are a left-right issue at all, which makes it difficult for some to even begin to discuss, and know lots of parents with kids who are as right as Kathy but see beyond the politics and think of the biological health problem which is different from the cocooning problem she identifies.)

Ted

Posted by: Ted at January 29, 2007 9:36 AM

That was "allergies are NOT a left-right issue at all".

Posted by: Ted at January 29, 2007 9:51 AM

Fine Ted, but the broader point is that _everyone_ thinks their own personal issue is "different." this happens on the right as well as the left. I see it all the time especially with gay conservatives who are conservative about everything except gay marriage which they support for no single solid "conservative" reason. They support illegal immigrants just because they have a mexican mother in law or what have you.

Speaking of "principles before personalities": I'm a recovering alcoholic yet don't want alcohol banned because I personally now find the smell of it stomach turning and/or may "fall off the wagon" at the sight of a beer commercial.

When I was crippled with arthritis for years, I didn't campaign to have doorknobs removed from every door in toronto because I was unable to turn them. Etc.

So I have a very low tolerance for people who want the world made over to suit them personally. Too many "physical" and psychological "syndromes" these days are mere fashionable affectations or psychosomatic.

Can I ask why no kids in my old hood had peanut allergies back in the day? I am not being sarcastic.

And we're decrying those laws you mentioned because we are questioning whether or not they really will help the "general good." One man's "general good" is another's leftwing social engineering.

Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at January 29, 2007 9:56 AM

Foolish of me to stand between two blog warriors and stick my nose in where it doesn't belong, but...

Kathy, I think the peanut-allergy bit was not quite kosher, though I think the overall point that you were making is quite valid.

Ted, I think you're making a bit too much of this relatively off-hand comment that was NOT intended to be directed at those with peanut allergies, but as a loving parent, you have the right to defend.

May I suggest a "sorry, didn't mean to smear those with peanut allergies" from Kathy and a "sorry, I shouldn't have over-reacted so much" from Ted? Then the good points that were being made can stand with agreement between both parties. Dialogue, not war, would be good in this instance.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 29, 2007 10:18 AM

"Can I ask why no kids in my old hood had peanut allergies back in the day? I am not being sarcastic."

Of course. And the answer is tied to why the peanut protein is causing more kids to become allergic in the first place. And the answer is not known. Lots of theories. One is that peanut, a ground nut, absorbs and keeps a lot more man-made chemicals that get sprayed on it unlike other vine nuts. Others suggest that it is the abundance of peanut products now that parents eat/ate growing up because of how cheap peanuts are (so cheap in fact that a couple of companies mash peanuts together, add flavour, shape them and sell them as more exotic nuts like macadamia nuts... thank you government regulations requiring accurate labelling!). Some blame the mother's eating habits during pregnancy (like they needed another guilt trip).

So I hear and take your other examples Kathy. And acknowledge that you are a better person for having struggled through without assistance or protection, but this is different. No one could harm you by pouring a beer on your hand and no one is demanding a ban on peanuts or that adults or even teenagers not be allowed ever to eat peanut products (well, OK, there are probably some who do).

For just a few short years (grade school) and in a few specific locations (grade school/day care), parents are asking other parents and schools not to put our kids at risk. Kids will do mean things and there is no way to stop them most of the time. My son is probably going to feel different his whole life because he can't have that birthday cake at the party or can't have that ice cream cone from the street vendor on that hot summer day. We'll live with that. But at school, you know what kids are like. A gob of peanut butter on a finger becomes a weapon, a taunt too easily. And I've already seen it from parents. I've seen one kid push a piece of cake he couldn't eat at him.

Are we being overly protective by banning weapons in schools? By banning smoking in the classroom?

I think an allergy in a kid - which is not a choice and does not develop because of a kid's home upbringing like possibly asthma - is not comparable to the cocooning/sheltering problem you talk about, or your stomach turning at the smell of alcohol.

Any kid with a severe allergy will have to fend for himself and we train him for that constantly. For a few short years in really only one place - school - we ask that they be allowed a safer place to learn and grow.

Ted

Posted by: Ted at January 29, 2007 10:32 AM

Dialogue, not war, would be good in this instance.

Yeah, can't we all just get along?

Somebody pass the peanut butter.

Posted by: ol hoss at January 29, 2007 10:38 AM

Not only can't leftists see the forest for the trees, they can't see the trees for the low hanging branches.

Geez Ted, I was born with a peanut allergy and have been hospitalized for it on a few occasions. But I don't take what Kathy said personally, it was a general observation. I'm secure in my masculinity. I played middle linebacker on the highschool football team. And I played organized lacrosse and hockey growing up. I also grew up in a tough neighbourhood.

Dude, give it a rest.

Posted by: irwin daisy at January 29, 2007 11:08 AM

"I was born with a peanut allergy and have been hospitalized for it on a few occasions. But I don't take what Kathy said personally, it was a general observation. I'm secure in my masculinity. I played middle linebacker on the highschool football team. And I played organized lacrosse and hockey growing up. I also grew up in a tough neighbourhood."

Exactly my point, Irwin.

Thanks.

Ted

Posted by: Ted at January 29, 2007 11:12 AM

For a few short years in really only one place - school - we ask that they be allowed a safer place to learn and grow.

Have you thought about a tattoo of some kind? You know, the circle with the line through it. It should be esthetically pleasing next to the peace symbol.

Posted by: ol hoss at January 29, 2007 11:23 AM

Young Canadians need to know what it means to be prepared. I remember when lots of boys carried a pocket knife. Carrying a pocket knife and some dry matches and being able to use them properly should not be banned from school. Children would be smarter if it was required.

Posted by: concrete at January 29, 2007 12:47 PM

Ted: Randy put it in pretty damn capital letters for you and you are still not getting it. You love to cherish frustration, don't you?

Islamofaschists actually have less allergies, than an average Canadian. They consume cleaner food products, although not as much variety and not as reach in nutrients. We should work harder to reduce the allergies in us, if we want to survive.

Posted by: Aaron at January 29, 2007 4:10 PM

WTF are you talking about Aaron? It's clear you don't know how to spell, but do you know how to read?

We're all going to die because Ted's kid is allergic to peanuts?

Tell us more. What do the "Islamofascists" eat that is so much cleaner? How should we work "harder" to reduce the allergies "in us"?

More important perhaps, just how old are you?

Posted by: WTF? at January 29, 2007 11:07 PM

THE RAINFORESTS ARE DOING FINE. Frankly when some eco-freak gose down to central america to save the rainforests i hope theres a QUETZAL sitting in a tree with a bazooka READY SQUAWK AIM SQUAWK FIRE SQUAWK SQUAWK NAILED HIM

Posted by: spurwing plover at January 30, 2007 11:10 AM
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