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January 27, 2007

America Through John Kerry's Iranian Lens

This story is racing - no, raging - across the American blogosphere today. While seated beside former Iranian president Mohammad Khatami at the Davos economic summit in Switzerland;

Kerry said the Bush administration has failed to adequately address a number of foreign policy issues.

"When we walk away from global warming, Kyoto, when we are irresponsibly slow in moving toward AIDS in Africa, when we don't advance and live up to our own rhetoric and standards, we set a terrible message of duplicity and hypocrisy," Kerry said.

"So we have a crisis of confidence in the Middle East - in the world, really. I've never seen our country as isolated, as much as a sort of international pariah for a number of reasons as it is today."

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Kerry criticized what he called the "unfortunate habit" of Americans to see the world "exclusively through an American lens."


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Allahpundit has video; "Then he signed an autograph for the pig. The same pig who, six months ago, defended executing gays for the crime of homosexuality."autograph.jpg

Steve Shippert, Threatswatch.org;

This goes beyond aid and comfort, this is imposing self-inflicted wounds. Those are the words one expects from Ahmadinejad, not a sitting United States Senator. And this is what congressional Republicans are teaming up with, and it sickens me.

Seething with rage, I remind those here that Iran's Qods Force executed - EXECUTED - US troops last Saturday. Captured them. Bound them together, and shot them in the skull.

Why? Because there is no price to be paid. Further, seeking to exert influence on our own self-serving political class, it was indeed a message to them more than it was any combat on our forces or retaliation for our capture of Quds Force operators embedded within their diplomatic corps.

They execute our men and we send our leaders to lament our misgivings in apology to the premiere state sponsors of terrorism.

There is a rage brewing and I am nearly incapable of writing at the moment. I hope that someone in here lends eloquence sans nuance to this.

This cannot stand, and hand-shaking Republican co-signatories need immediate rebuke in the strongest terms. For they own this man's words and must understand. We see their words as the enemy does - inseperable and indistinguishable from a united message of apology.

I bear no apology. None. It is time for Iran to pay a price. We know where the EFP/IED factories are in Iran. We know where the IRGC barracks are. They are the word's 4th leading oil exporter, yet a gasoline importer. There are a handful of refineries in various states of disrepair. We know where much of value to them is. If they are coming into Iraq to execute our men, we must send a message of the price to be paid, lest more follow. I am not calling for the declaration of war and invasion.

They blew up our embassy in Beruit. Nothing.
They blew up our Marine Barracks in Beirut. Nothing.
They hijacked an airliner and executed a US Navy diver. Nothing.
They were complicit in the 1996 Khobar Tower bombing. Nothing.
They are known to have trained al-Qaeda operatives in Hizballah's Bekka Valley and in Sudan. Nothing.
They train, fund and arm Sadr's men and AQ in Iraq. Nothing.
They summarily executed a US Army Public Affairs Unit in Krabala. ___________.

I sense that others in here do not understand what I mean when I say executed.

And WE are the pariah? Have we lost our damned minds?

What message are we to send our men currently fighting the fight? "Move along, nothing to see here."???

I have always hated those damned yellow ribbons, especially when they were intended to show some modicum of support for me while I was myself deployed. I swear to you today, every cheesy yellow ribbon I find on a car or signpost is getting ripped down. This is no substitute for fortitude, yet that is precisely what it represents to far too many. Take off your yellow ribbon. Far too many display them so that they can be percieved one way or another, not so that troops may take some measure of support from them.

I need to end this rant here, hoping that I can find calm at some point today to effectively fight this fight with the only weapon left me: words. I feel like a raging bull, struggling for self control, driven to the edge by the self-service of others.


Related:
"Hey, I bet you've probably wondered why Al Qaeda hasn't struck in the US since 9/11. They don't have to."

Flashback - Kerry's "Global Test"

Posted by Kate at January 27, 2007 4:53 PM
Comments

let me be the first to state that any and all support I may have given the kerry camp or viewpoint is now gone completely and permanently.

this is way over the line mr jfk 2.0

Posted by: robertbollocks at January 27, 2007 5:50 PM

Even if you can't stand G.W. now you see why we decided lurch should never see a future beyond his current title of the Junior Senator from the tiny state of mASS. However he might have potential as a ketchup salesman in France.

Posted by: Boilermaker at January 27, 2007 5:57 PM

The biggest condemnation history will have of this war period, was allowing traitors like this guy & certain publications that have aided & abetted the enemy in every possible combination.

To spread misinformation from the enemy, using our own freedom's. To subvert the publics will towards appeasement. To surrender!! If not exposing vital programs to protect us all. The Jihadists don't need a secret service. They have certain MSM media outlets that do it for them. Self serving politicians with no thought of a tomorrow. Only a hunger to win, no concern over consequences nor what their nattering is doing to the troops or moral of citizens. Only there own needs apply. The Country be dammed.

These men & women are complete turncoats with no love or honor for there respective Countries. They want us to lose as Kate averred in another post . This sort of reptile loves to hear about casualties to rationalize their own cowardice away. Cheering on a Nations foes, is an act of betrayal by blind pigmies of no conscience. If there cause is just. By now the left is as besotted with this death cult, as they are of self-absorbed in their own love of death for every situation except serial killers. They can not even see the danger to themselves. Let alone the entire civilization. Lost as they are in apparitions of Utopia.

Ask them if they want us to win , than notice they never answer. This is more than dissent, its conspiracy & consent to subversion.

Just my opinion.

Posted by: Revnant Dream at January 27, 2007 6:00 PM

Rejecting this slimeball in 2004 was the smartest thing americans have done for the world. Kate, I hope you have sent this to Rush for his take.

Posted by: mary T. at January 27, 2007 6:01 PM

Well, if he was running before he certainly isnt now.

The US democrats hate America, as opposed to wanting to make it batter it is a self flagellation.

The accusation against the CPC in Canada was that it hated Canada. You know it was never about hating it. It was always about wanting to live up to its potential and be better than it was.

There is a difference in those approaches and Kerry and Move On.org definitiely have the self loathing versus self improvement attitude.

Posted by: stephen at January 27, 2007 6:05 PM

'Happened to catch Kerry spewing "America as pariah" on CNN this afternoon and, sadly, I COULD believe my eyes and ears.

'Just confirms my absolute disdain and detestation of this man and what he stands for--which is nothing but warm fuzzy platitudes and blood chilling and traiterous remarks.

The U.S. is at war, for G*d's sake, our Western civilization/way of life is in the balance and this ethically challenged Heinz-hangeron has the gall to aid and abet the enemy...

Too bad we couldn't bring back the stocks in the public square. John Kerry deserves to be taken to task for the heinous stand he has taken in favour of the Islamofascists and against his own country. Will anyone in the MSM do it?

WWII had Tokyo Rose. The War on Terror now has Tehran Johnny.

Posted by: 'been around the block at January 27, 2007 6:17 PM

I see Andrew Sullivan is even calling it a shame. As he should. And he voted for Kerry, relunctantly though

Posted by: stephen at January 27, 2007 6:38 PM

Canadians may not be interested in war but war is certainly interested in Canadians.

Bush will be completely retired in less than two years and this war will still be in its early stages. There will definitely come a time when it hits painfully hard into our comfortable lives and homes.

Watch and remember what our politicians and journalists are saying, it is going to be an interesting historical record, if there is a free civilization to write it down.

Worst case scenario? A global 'war to end all wars', totalitarian Islam versus totalitarian 'socialism'.

Islam will win that one.

Posted by: anon at January 27, 2007 6:45 PM

What a b.....d!!! The Swift Boat vets had his number. Trying to storm the doors of the White House in '08 are the same irresponsible slobs of Kerry's ilk, adored by and given a pass by the MSM elite, and more horrifying, we have some damn dumb memory challenged electorate that almost delivered a snake like Kerry to Commander-in-Chief position. How our enemies must love these fools. It makes my blood boil.

The '08 election is a watershed for America, for the free world for that matter.

Posted by: penny at January 27, 2007 6:47 PM

And the US has Libby on trial for having a bad memory. American voters should be on trial for the same bad memory. Too bad they can't charge all democrats, cia leakers, the NYT and others with treason. No wonder the media has lost 88% of jobs. Bush will go down as a very brave president, leading a bunch of wuzzies.

Posted by: mary T. at January 27, 2007 7:09 PM

Acts of treason are not a new thing for the Democratic Party.

In John O'Sullivans excellent book "The President, the Pope and the Prime Minister", he details attempts by Senator Edward Kennedy to thwart Reagan's policies at undermining the Soviet Empire (Pages 253-4). Kennedy had met with Gorbachev in Moscow in February 1986. In a subsequent meeeting with Vadim Zagladin, the Soviet International Department's deputy head, Zaglasin recorded the following observations:

1. At the same time, in E. Kennedy’s opinion, ‘‘my Soviet friends have not yet thoroughly understood the psychology of the Americans and the essence of Reagan’s tactics’’.

2. "You [Soviets]," Kennedy continued, "have a notion about the power of the military-industrial complex [in the US]. And, indeed, it has its weight and strength. First, however, it is not as powerful in politics as you imagine. Second, it is not monolithic."

3. In Kennedy’s opinion "We [Soviets] should choose two or three points which could be achieved and constantly put pressure on Reagan in order to restrict his freedom of maneuver. These points might be the following:
— confirmation of the ABM Treaty;
— restriction of the nuclear tests limit and a cut in their number;
— missiles in Europe (though, Kennedy said, Reagan will demand the elimination of missiles from Asia)."

4. Summarizing, Kennedy said: ‘‘the present complacency of the Americans, their almost Christmas mood, must be broken"

Full details here: http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZGM2ZTE4Y2ExNDU3NGMyNmNhMWNkYjU3ZWNhYTk0NGQ=

Not so long ago traitors were hung for parleying with the enemy.

Posted by: Richard Saunders at January 27, 2007 7:17 PM

Well, afterall he is a patriotic terrorist .

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-gutfeld/new-trend-on-the-rise-t_b_39594.html

Posted by: Boilermaker at January 27, 2007 7:17 PM

The hollow saber rattle of the chicken hawks is almost as sickening as the self-debasing masochistic liberalism of Bush's fellow bonesman JFKerry.

Man, there is a concentration of globalist scum in Davos this week.

The US is now playing the global imperialist role like the Brits, Spanish, Dutch and French before them and they will get their tits caught in the wringer from time to time as they manage to piss off every indiginous peoples who take exception to them interfering in their nation's affairs or occupying their country...it's part of the territory you bite off when you decide to be an intrusive global super power with a military foreign policy agenda.

That does not excuse Kerry's psychotic need to cleanse his displaced yuppy-liberal guilt complex by adopting the "optics" of his nation's enemies.

But above and beyont the shameless bootlick self promoting peaceniks like Kerry hand out to the world's tyrants, I wish the cheerleading chicken hawks in the benches urging on the war would volunteer for service instead of waving the flag and rattling their sabers from the safety of the benches...then Bush would have no manpower worries about a conventional occupation of Iran.

It is the lack of "volunteer" army personel that makes him balk at a definative military retaliation to Iranian insults.

All chicken hawks report for front line duty. Time to get out from behind the safety of yer keybords....get your ass in the grass heros! I guarantee you'll have a differnt attitude about rushing to war before other opetins are exhausted...if you survive the ordeal.

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at January 27, 2007 7:23 PM

This man is shit. He has always worked against the USA and is still doing so.

He is also very political. He says "when we walked away from Kyoto" bad us. But it was his party that did that. Also, doesn't mention Saudi (non) participation in Kyoto.

Hey, they could stop fossil fuel usage tomorrow by asking the westerners to stop pumping the oil. Notice that that doesn't happen??

Posted by: Wimpy Canadian at January 27, 2007 7:24 PM

*
Maybe Kerry just likes a straight talker. People like Khatami and Ahmadinejad...

"Say what you will about Iranian President Madman Ahmadinejad, you sure
can't accuse him of beatin' around the bush."

*

Posted by: neo at January 27, 2007 7:27 PM

This man is shit. He has always worked against the USA and is still doing so.

He is also very political. He says "when we walked away from Kyoto" bad us. But it was his party that did that. Also, doesn't mention Saudi (non) participation in Kyoto.

Hey, they could stop fossil fuel usage tomorrow by asking the westerners to stop pumping the oil. Notice that that doesn't happen??

Posted by: Wimpy Canadian at January 27, 2007 7:28 PM

Anon, re: "Worst case scenario? A global 'war to end all wars', totalitarian Islam versus totalitarian 'socialism'.

Islam will win that one."


If the socialists gain the upper hand in many of the western world governments, there won't be any war. Those boot-licking, fawning, ass-kissing terrorist sympathizers will just cave in to the wacko Islamic fundamentalists without a single shot being fired in our defence. :(

Posted by: Joe Canuck at January 27, 2007 7:29 PM

That appeared in Huffingtonm Post. Amazing.

Posted by: Wimpy Canadian at January 27, 2007 7:31 PM

I wonder if he began his long-winded diatribe with "I'mmm John Kerry, and I served in Vietnam".

Posted by: Lynn at January 27, 2007 7:32 PM

BTW: This latest crap trend about wanting to punish people who disagree with the war can lead to some dangerous ground. America was built on the pretest of a right to protest and disagree...so was governing systems.

If there are people againt the war whi are truely committed to that position of peace ( as all real Christians shoud) this is no excuse to brand them as "traitors".

Kerry is an obnoxious showboating terd and no more represents the anti war faction in America than Hollywood represents middle America.

Many of the people I know who are opposed to the war are vets...just the same this does not mean they will sell out their nation. Polls say support for the war among Americans is just about evenly split...I jsut get POed hearing warhawks call dissenting opinion "treason".

Get over that BS...dissent is the stuff of a healthy democracy.

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at January 27, 2007 7:33 PM

John Kerry is one sick puppy. His brain has turned.He is close to a treasonable act. To talk about your country like that is sick; when there is a War on. But there again he is a democrat what more can you expect, They who want to make the Americian Military a pussycat. Wimps all of them.

Posted by: Ken E. at January 27, 2007 7:35 PM

That appeared in Huffingtonm Post. Amazing

Yes, and as I'm sure you can imagine, the comments turned out to be far more entertaining than the post!

Posted by: Boilermaker at January 27, 2007 7:39 PM

Give me a break, WL Mackenzie Redux: "Get over that BS...dissent is the stuff of a healthy democracy."

There is honest and honourable dissent--which, I agree, is what democracy is all about--and then there's stab-your-own-country-in-the-back (or should I say gut, seeing as Kerry met with former Iranian president Mohammad Khatami and dissed the U.S. in full view of the whole world).

If you can't see the difference WL, then there's not much point in anyone trying to explain it to you. Your namesake had a few problems discerning fact from fiction, too, as I recall.

Posted by: 'been around the block at January 27, 2007 7:45 PM

By the way, blogs like Daily Kos are falling all over themselves trying to convince us, the public, that Kerry 'really didn't say' what he did.

We, the public, are the ones who must be condemned, for daring to hear that Kerry said..well, what he said. The Daily Kos says that Kerry did NOT say that the US was a 'pariah'. No, by no means. It's our fault for hearing that he did. But wait...

Kerry said "our country [interpretation: the USA] is a sort of international pariah". Hmm.

Noun: 'pariah'.
Descriptive adjectives; 'a sort of' and 'international'.

So, the USA is a 'sort of pariah'. Seems clear to me.
Admittedly, Kerry didn't specify what type or 'sort of' pariah the USA is.

He didn't say if it was a: wealthy or poor, a happy or sad, a hysterical or depressed, a babbling or bubbling, a....He left that up to us. It was just a 'sort of' international pariah.

But he DID say that the USA is 'an international pariah'.

Facts are facts. But Daily Kos is hysterically ranting that it is us, the public, who are the pariahs, the traitors, the evil ones..for daring to hear what we heard Kerry say.

Oh, by the way, Kerry voted AGAINST the USA signing the Kyoto agreement. Got that? Against.

He seems to have a problem differentiating fact from fiction. Rather like his memory of Xmas in Cambodia (except he was never there)...And the US has contributed more in Aids funding and Aids research than any nation on earth.

So, speaking of duplicity and hypocrisy...Well, Kerry is 'full of the bluid-red stuff'. Otherwise known as ketchup.

Hey- don't knock Massachusetts. It was, after all, the location of a lot of stuff that went on leading to the emergence of the USA. The fact that Kerry and Kennedy are there now - they're just blips in time.

Posted by: ET at January 27, 2007 7:46 PM

not to worry ET, ketchup boy probably fumbled his delivery of a joke,...again...

Posted by: Boilermaker at January 27, 2007 7:51 PM

He knew exactly what he was doing; he made his announcement a few days ago that he wasn't running for president so now he can get away with saying whatever he wants. The democrats are totally vested in failure in Iraq , it's the only way they can win power back and that is if Iraq collapses. They're betting on it. Sure, it's a betrayal of his country; it's a dangerous strategy coming out like this, and maybe some US troops will die(he doesnt care anyways; the troops are morons, remember?), but it gets the lunatic fringe of the democrat party base excited, energized and rare'n to go for elections in '08.

Posted by: Harry at January 27, 2007 8:01 PM

so what's Obama & Hitlery got to say about their fellodemocrat ??

Posted by: Fred at January 27, 2007 8:14 PM

Au contriare, Joe Canuck, those 'boot-licking, fawning, ass-kissing terrorist sympathizers' are merely useful idiots. When 'socialism' sufficiently locks into power their job is done. There has always, always, been a metamorphasis of 'socialist' rule into something that has no trouble at all going into ruthless total war.

Posted by: anon at January 27, 2007 8:21 PM

WL Mackenzie Redux: Shocked to hear you make the "chicken hawk" "argument". That loony-left logical fallacy was not expected from you!

I'm 58, I have a small business. How exactly do I "sign up". With whom? Would they take me? Or are you suggesting maybe I start freelancing some kind of underground counter-terrorist operation?

Rhetorical questions all! Can I express no opinions then about this very real world war which is no less threatening even if one disagrees with the initial Iraq invasion.

What about crime and punishment in Canada? Shall I demur from expressing opinions on that too unless I enrol in the Police Academy?

Where do I sign up? Will they take me?

This thread is not about punishing people for dissent. It is about Kerry colluding with the enemy, being a traitor (yes, a traitor) -- a reprise of his Vietnam days colluding with the North Vietnamese enemy who later told us that they thought they were beaten but that they held on due to the encouragement they received from the anti-war left among whom Kerry was a prominent member.

Posted by: Me No Dhimmi at January 27, 2007 8:25 PM

Reynolds sums it up well here. http://instapundit.com/archives2/2007/01/post_2065.php

to save the trouble, his summary is short, sweet and very much on point.
"Like Jimmy Carter, he'll never forgive America for rejecting him, and he'll console himself with the approval of America's enemies."

Posted by: Boilermaker at January 27, 2007 8:26 PM

lunatic fringe - PETAphiles, marxists, leninists, feminazis, Jihadis, socialists, neonazis, communists, et al, ... that creative segment of society that wants to invent things, build things, solve problems and make money.


Posted by: Harry at January 27, 2007 8:27 PM

But the dhimmi's want us to believe they are patroitic. Why do the dhimmi masses support a retard who opposes everything they support and supports everything they claim to oppose. I've always heard that mental institutions are full of people that can't tell fantasty from reality. All of them aren't locked up.

Posted by: Scrapiron at January 27, 2007 8:28 PM

Ha-ha-ha!

That Steve Shippert dude's self-pitying, self-righteous whining was really funny!

Mossadeq, and this: http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1527

there's more but it won't register with most of the knuckle-draggers here.


g'night doofusi!

Posted by: thwap at January 27, 2007 8:35 PM

Kerry is right. Bush and most Republicans are morons who are too stupid to understand the complexities International politics. Cowboys and Republican religious extremist are a threat to America and world peace.

Posted by: conservativeidiot at January 27, 2007 9:02 PM

Really, there are no surprises here. This is EXACTLY what we should expect from Kerry and from most of the DemocRats currently in office. They believe this stuff.

I say, bring it on baby! Let "a hundred flowers bloom" in the words of the late and un-lamented Chairman Mao. Please please PLEASE let John F'ing Kerry and every last one of the DemocRat gas bags mouth off limitlessly for the next two years.

Because nobody in their right mind is going to vote for the likes of that.

Posted by: The Phantom at January 27, 2007 9:13 PM

Of course USA is threat to world peace. Thank God we have Islamic fundamentalist fascism to protect free speech and human rights.

Conservativeidiot. If invaders were at your backyard, you'd be praying for the Americans to save you.

Maybe Dubya is a moron too stupid to understand the complexities of world peace; at least now we see why he defeated Kerry.

Too bad history records that USA is a colony, not an imperialist. If you want to see a real contemporary imperialist, just check out the old USSR.

Right Conservativeidiot (good name), the Middle East and Africa were all sweetness and light before Roosevelt and Texas showed up.

Trouble is, besides handing another propaganda victory to OUR enemies, Kerry and his ilk want to console themselves in self-loathing. They are oblivious to the tribal genocides being perpetrated and seem desperate to deny that we are endangered - the poor downtrodden have no choice but to obliterate us.

Oh yeah, it's the American's fault. What an intellectually lazy argument.

Posted by: Shamrock at January 27, 2007 9:20 PM

I say, bring it on baby! Let "a hundred flowers bloom" in the words of the late and un-lamented Chairman Mao. Please please PLEASE let John F'ing Kerry and every last one of the DemocRat gas bags mouth off limitlessly for the next two years.

Great comment!!!

Posted by: Minion #48877 at January 27, 2007 9:21 PM

kerry = vietnam = manchurian candidate

Posted by: spike at January 27, 2007 9:25 PM

John Kerry is in the Vietnamese War Remnants Musuem. He is honored for his "heroic" contributions to the North Vienamese victory. A pciture of his exhibit in the museum can be seen here with all the gory details:

http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545

Posted by: Fritz at January 27, 2007 9:25 PM

Seems like everything is a threat to our moonbat friends except complete acquiescing.

Posted by: ural at January 27, 2007 9:29 PM

you sir, you sir, you have now done a thing for which others have been lined up and SHOT for in the countries in which they lived sir.

I did support some of your positions as transient as they got to be sometimes and believed your words but now you have pissed on my shoe and spit a bulls eye in my face and 200 million of your countrymen.

what say ye now??? too busy burning all those bridges ???

you sir, YOU are the 'great satan' to which the muslim extremists refer.

Posted by: robertbollocks at January 27, 2007 9:29 PM

HALP US JON CARRY WE R STUCK IN IRAN.

Posted by: Rascally Rabbit at January 27, 2007 9:32 PM

WL Mackenzie Redux 7.33pm stated...
"...truely committed to that position of peace ( as all real Christians shoud)... "
Two comments and an observation
(1) take a deep breath, slow down, and think before you type.
(2) Christians are committed to peace as a goal, not a process. Anyone that thinks otherwise is clueless about Christianity. If you are not a Christian, you have an excuse. If you are one, I suggest you THINK about what you just said in the context of the doctrines of your faith. If you then still hold that position, I suspect that you merely think of Christ as a good man that died, and not God that rose from the dead.

Oh, the observation? The drivel that Kerry has spewed is a fairly common opinion. Those who hold it are, at best, naive idiots or mendacious cowards. Unfortunately, we are well past this stage: such opinions have hardened into a lens through which all other perceptions are filtered without an attempt at critical thought.

Sweet reason does not generally convince such people that they are fundamentally wrong.

Posted by: Tenebris at January 27, 2007 9:34 PM

Take a look at the photo at Yahoo:

http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070127/481/vm10101271047

Khatami sure looks happy. He couldn't BUY this kind of propaganda. Or, maybe he did.

Posted by: Jon at January 27, 2007 9:44 PM

I just checked both CNN and Fox. Fox has it as a major story on their site. CNN - NADA!!! Predictable, don't you think?

Posted by: a different Bob at January 27, 2007 9:52 PM

to mr WLM:

re what constitutes a christian:

I have a peace symbol tattoo on my rt thigh with matthew 5:9 inside the 'spokes' and 'blessed are the peacemakers' in a banner across the bottom.

think of what a peacemaker is.

the colt 45 at the end of the 19th century was a 'peacemaker'.

a peacemaker is one who MAKES the peace happen in a violent agressive globe.

I know in my heart of hearts if the situation called for it I could machine gun HUNDREDS of enemy soldiers in order to MAKE the peace happen, and say a prayer to the Lord for saving my skin as I climbed on the train to go back to my home where I bounce the grandchildren on my knee and laugh at stand up comics all with a pristine clear conscience KNOWING that the peace enjoyed by others AND myself was arrived at because the Lord saw to it that I have good eyesight and a cold ruthless nature which I called upon the one time the need arose.

Christ was not a wuss.

so-called christians who cave in at the first sign of trouble are not christians because their way is the way of the end of freedom including the freedom to worship as we choose.

Col. Paul Tibbits was a peacemaker. hiroshima was the wake up call.

Chuck Sweeney was a peacemaker. nagasaki was the message. war is a dirty rough and very imprecise business which is why we need to avoid it and get it over with as quickly as possible. what kerry did will extend the business in iraq.

quakers are the exception because they are an example and reminder of what it would be like if everyone had their view, and a goal to aim for. but we cant all be that way just yet.

I invite you to reconsider and revise your position on christianity and peace.

Posted by: robertbollocks at January 27, 2007 9:58 PM

Hey- don't knock Massachusetts.....The fact that Kerry and Kennedy are there now - they're just blips in time.

I disagree, ET. Ted Kennedy is second only to the smarmy Robert Byrd as second longest term in office, 1962. Over and over again the Massachusetts electorate has stayed with him. What are the odds of a state having two idiots like Kennedy and Kerry as Senate choices. It's one of the highest taxed states. The Boston Big Dig, 14.6 billion dollars in taxpayer waste, is typical.

Massachusetts, California, Vermont, NYC.....France would approve of, their attitudes to their squandering of the public coffers. The Americans that aren't going to fail us in the WOT and reversing the nanny state aren't from those zip codes.

Posted by: penny at January 27, 2007 10:02 PM

Is he intentionally trying to sabotage Iraq, or is he just "stuk in Irak" mode?

Posted by: pete at January 27, 2007 10:14 PM

what, do the moonbats take turns coming here to dish out their stereotyping bigotry??

man, I am a dye in the wool atheist, but I can say for certain that I would live in a evangelical christian country vs an extremist muslim one any day

the christians just want to convert me, the muslims want to convert me(or kill me if I do not), subjugate my daughters, murder my gay cousin, hang my hindu business partner, and a myriad of other arcane and ancient barbarisms

and as far as Iran is concerned, I have said it here before, as they are providing weapons, ammo and money to the taliban, they are a defacto enemy of Canada, and that has jack s#$% nothing to do with GWB....

Posted by: kingstonlad at January 27, 2007 10:16 PM

just checked CBCpravda and CTV(Tass)
nada as well.

one of those lies by omission things. they did find it in their hearts to show an anti-Iraq rally.

actually rather surprising that CBCpravda missed it, he mentioned Kyoto and it was anti-Bush.

Posted by: cal2 at January 27, 2007 10:16 PM

"Glory days, well, they'll pass you by, glory days"

Bruce Springsteen

Posted by: pete at January 27, 2007 10:16 PM

John Kerry just pulled a Swift Boat the size of the Queen Elizabeth II ocean liner.

Man overboard!

Posted by: Rascally Rabbit at January 27, 2007 10:41 PM

Kerry is stuck on stupid. He and his fellow turncoats and the media think that the enemy doesn't pay attention to the news, papers, blogs etc. They know they have fifth columnists in the State Department and editorial rooms. Kerry is probably surprised to find that the american media and citizens know what he said, and saw him signing an autograph. (or was that a cheque) And Jane Fonda is back again, Too bad that conference wasn't last October. As Rush says, elections have consequences, and the those that stayed away from the polls, or voted democratic are finding that out the hard way. That should send a message to cdn voters who are planning to park their vote or lend it out, the really listen to dion and his plans, and also to what the liberals try to pretend they care about. Their only objective is to get back to the trough.

Posted by: mary T. at January 27, 2007 11:06 PM

Oh! I just noticed that CNN has this as a minor story. They portray it as " Kerry speaks and the Iranians listen". CNN needs to be brought to its knees!!!!!

Posted by: a different Bob at January 27, 2007 11:55 PM

"The Boston Big Dig, 14.6 billion dollars in "

ah yes the big dig over in kennedyland aka *MESS*achusetts.

and who knew at the bottom of the hole would be a slip of paper with "amount due $14,000,000,000" on it.

and its already falling apart because the bolts holding the ceiling in place were not upgraded when they opted for bigger prefabed slabs (goggle it).

think of the alternate uses that much money could have had but no, we'se gots ta cater to the car culture (buzzzzzzz hargrove would be proud). kinda like the 400 series highway parking lots going around and thru tranna. only time theres guaranteed no traffic jam ever is between 330 a.m. and 430 a.m sunday.

Posted by: robertbollocks at January 27, 2007 11:56 PM

Hey Steve Shippert, I'm 64 years old and served 6 years in the military. If I catch you removing the yellow ribbons from my car, I'll kick your ass.

Posted by: Jerry at January 28, 2007 7:11 AM

beenaround the block said: "Give me a break, WL Mackenzie Redux: "Get over that BS...dissent is the stuff of a healthy democracy."

There is honest and honourable dissent--which, I agree, is what democracy is all about--and then there's stab-your-own-country-in-the-back (or should I say gut, seeing as Kerry met with former Iranian president Mohammad Khatami and dissed the U.S. in full view of the whole world).

If you can't see the difference WL, then there's not much point in anyone trying to explain it to you. Your namesake had a few problems discerning fact from fiction, too, as I recall."

> Obviously you did not read what I posted with any understanding, because you repeated pretty much what I said.

When you push the send key on reactionary blather before you read with understanding the comments you criticize,...well.... this explains a lot of vacant commentary.

BTW; Re-read your history books on WLM...I can see you read history with as little comprehension as you do the posts at SDA.


Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at January 28, 2007 9:03 AM

The Conservatives about to make a very public shot back at the MSM especially CBCpravda


http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070127/tory_ads_070127/20070127?hub=TopStories

Posted by: cal2 at January 28, 2007 9:28 AM

they have to counter the propaganda from the MSM somehow.....can't think of a better way to spend my contributions....lol
check out the story on drudge regarding the war protest in Washington....some moonbat actually said that hanoi jane was qualified to get up on stage because she "is a long distance runner"
wow....I run...that qualifies me for anything other than running?

Posted by: kingstonlad at January 28, 2007 9:49 AM

Today's two minute hate generated more foam and spittle than most.

The notion that most American's are ignorant about the rest of the world is hardly controversial. Although I can understand why pointing that fact out can drive some people up the wall.

Posted by: Jose at January 28, 2007 9:50 AM

Many Americans are ignorant of the world for a reason Jose. Same reason most Canadians think America is a post-apocalyptic wasteland filled with thieves and killers, or some kind of Jesusland of rednecks burning black churches.

The media.

Hollywood has been slagging the USA, its government, its companies and its people since the 1960's. Its called The Big Lie. Make up some heinous falsehood and keep repeating it, the more gullible among the population will swallow it whole. Some communist sympathizers made up America The Bad back in the 1950's, got a bunch of academic useful idiots on board, and these days its the unspoken basis of all news reporting.

Note the posters above who revealed CNN,CBC et al have completely ignored Kerry's pooh pas at Davos. Gee, why would Americans be ignorant?

Posted by: The Phantom at January 28, 2007 10:48 AM

"Hi! I'm Jon Carry and I'm here to stick my nose up your butt while I stick my foot in my mouth. Can't be done at the same time, you say! Well watch this. I'll prove it: and I'll do it where the whole world can see."

Posted by: Yoop at January 28, 2007 10:57 AM

Is dion taking lessons from kerry on foot and mouth disease.

Posted by: mary T. at January 28, 2007 11:21 AM

Jose, I've seen earlier posts you've made and you're either just plain stupid, or just so riddled with hatred for the United States that you can't think straight. Jose, your comment hardly dignifys a response but it's the kind of thing that you said that gives moral support to the enemy that wants to destroy us.
Americans can put a man on the moon, inventions and scientific achievments of all kinds, but damn, they are so ignorant. You and your fellow pond scum make me sick. Crawl under the rock from whence you came.

Posted by: Lynn at January 28, 2007 11:41 AM

Ah, yes, the ol' "chickenhawk" argument. It's invalid on its face, at least in the USA. Let's consult the US Constitution. Article I, Section 8, states in part, "The Congress shall have power -- . . . to declare war, . . . to raise and support armies, . . . to provide and maintain a navy . . . " Article I, Section 2, states the qualifications to be a member of the House of Representatives: "No person shall be a representative who shall not have attained to the age of twenty-five years, and have been seven years a citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen." Similarly, Article I, Section 3, states that "No person shall be a senator who shall not have attained to the age of thirty years, and been nine years a citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen." The Constitution does not state that "those members of Congress who have served in the military shall have the power to declare war", nor does it state that "no person shall be a senator or representative who has not served in the military." This is true even though many of those who drafted and debated the Constitution had fought in the Revolutionary War (George Washington presided over the Constitutional Convention, for example).

We need not stop there, however. I live very close to Onizuka Air Force base, close enough that members of the Air Force who serve there sometimes live in the same condominium complex as I. I bring them six-packs of good beer on Memorial Day, Independence Day, and Veterans' Day as a token of my appreciation for their service. On one of those occasions, I asked a captain in the Air Force how he felt about civilians making decisions to send our armed forces into combat. He responded that that was no problem. He was there to serve, and was proud to do so. He was also nice enough to tell me that my support for him and his fellow servicemen meant a lot to him in an area where they received very little support from the populace (bear in mind that this is only thirty-five miles from San Francisco).

Posted by: Silicon Valley Jim at January 28, 2007 12:01 PM

Kerry's "international pariah".
Pablo knows. His friend, Jose, is also praising the "international pariah".
...-


After a taste of U.S., little appetite for home
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | 1/28/2007 | Pablo Bachelet

Asked what they could do back in their native Chile, the four scientists in their 30s talk about solving problems such as the occasional "red tide" poisonings that can hit the fishing industry, or improving the forestry and mining industries.

But they say it will be difficult to return home after completing their research programs at the National Institutes of Health, a dilemma common to scores of Latin American scientists studying in the United States.

Scarce private-sector jobs and limited teaching slots or well-equipped research laboratories in their home countries keep most young Latin American scientists in the United States....-

Posted by: maz2 at January 28, 2007 12:07 PM

The notion that most American's are ignorant about the rest of the world is hardly controversial. Although I can understand why pointing that fact out can drive some people up the wall.

What is the point of being knowledgeable about a disfunctional world mostly administered by leftards when being knowledgeable about what makes the U. S. of A. the most successful nation on earth is much more useful?

All the knowledge in the world won't make one wise, as leftards continually demonstrate.

Posted by: ol hoss at January 28, 2007 12:24 PM

RE: WL Mackenzie Redux says 'The US is now playing the global imperialist role like the Brits, Spanish, Dutch and French before them'-

Hardly. On what do you base such a statement? Go to wikipedia and look at the maps of those imperial empires. Also Japan and Italy and Germany and Russia and Belgium. They are pretty clear. Then look up American Empire and you will find a rather long debate on the meaning of the word and where it might possibly be applied. Prehaps you could clarify, how are you defining 'imperial'? If it is the 'spirit' of Empire to which you are referring, than that does not compare to the real thing, such as the British or French or Dutch Empires.

-The Oxford English Dictionary gives three definitions of imperialism:

1)An imperial system of government; the rule of an emperor, esp. when despotic or arbitrary.

2)The principle or spirit of empire; advocacy of what are held to be imperial interests.

3)Used disparagingly.In Communist writings: the imperial system or policy of the Western powers. Used conversely in some Western writings: the imperial system or policy of the Communist powers-

Posted by: concrete at January 28, 2007 12:56 PM

Exposing ignorance sure does drive one up the wall. Kinda like me pointing out to you that it's "Americans" not "American's" eh Jose?

Posted by: Yukon Gold at January 28, 2007 1:22 PM

Re Jose's statement that "The notion that most American's [sic] are ignorant about the rest of the world is hardly controversial."

I made a very interesting and important observation early in my life that has held me in good stead ever since.

I hitch hiked through Europe after I graduated from a Canadian university, and well knew the attitude of Europeans about Americans: They're arrogant, they're ignorant, they're big mouths, and they're know-nothings.

Imagine my surprise, when stopping off in hostels every night and finding hitch hiking partners to travel with to the next destination, to discover that Americans my age were far more interesting, far more cognizant of world affairs, and far superior travelling companions to most of the Canadians I met on the road.

I can say, almost categorically, that most of the Canadians I met were monolithically pro-Trudeau and anti-American for no good reasons. If you scratched the surface to see where their ideas came from, they got snippy and abusive: Moonbats in the making.

I began to avoid the Canadian-flagged backpackers like the plague, and actually took the Canadian flag off my backpack. I figured I'd travel as myself, and make it on my own, sans the Maple Leaf identifier.

Some of my best friends are Americans, and they are intelligent, thoughtful, resourcesful, fun to be with, vibrant, and can-do human beings. I'm sick of the knee-jerk Canadian anti-Americanism. It's a lame excuse for stale, socialist, parasitic living.

If North America faces a crisis of catastrophic proportions, the moonbats aren't going to be able to come to their children's and grandchildren's defence. They'll be cowering in the corner yelling, "Where the H*ll are the U.S. Marines, Army, Navy, and Airforce?"

Your thinking needs a chiropractic re-adjustment, Jose.

Posted by: 'been around the block at January 28, 2007 1:39 PM

Re Jose's statement that "The notion that most American's [sic] are ignorant about the rest of the world is hardly controversial."

I made a very interesting and important observation early in my life that has held me in good stead ever since.

I hitch hiked through Europe after I graduated from a Canadian university, and well knew the attitude of Europeans about Americans: They're arrogant, they're ignorant, they're big mouths, and they're know-nothings.

Imagine my surprise, when stopping off in hostels every night and finding hitch hiking partners to travel with to the next destination, to discover that Americans my age were far more interesting, far more cognizant of world affairs, and far superior travelling companions to most of the Canadians I met on the road.

I can say, almost categorically, that most of the Canadians I met were monolithically pro-Trudeau and anti-American for no good reasons. If you scratched the surface to see where their ideas came from, they got snippy and abusive: moonbats in the making.

I began to avoid the Canadian-flagged backpackers like the plague, and actually took the Canadian flag off my backpack. I figured I'd travel as myself, and make it on my own, sans the smug Maple Leaf identifier.

Some of my best friends are Americans, and they are intelligent, thoughtful, resourceful, fun to be with, vibrant, and can-do human beings. I'm sick of the smug and arrogant knee-jerk anti-Americanism of far too many Canadians. It's a giant projection onto our neighbours to the South about our own lame socialist, Nanny-state, and parasitic living.

If/when North America faces a crisis of catastrophic proportions, the moonbats aren't going to be able to come to their children's and grandchildren's defence. They'll be cowering in the corner yelling, "Where the H*ll are the U.S. Marines, Army, Navy, and Airforce?" Canadians couldn’t defend themselves out of a brown paper bag—and yet, we’re “far superior” to the “dumb, ignorant Americans.”

Think again, Jose.

Posted by: 'been around the block at January 28, 2007 1:46 PM


Hating America is nothing new. The hate and jealousy has been around as long as America has been around. But since 9/11 it is worse. My theory is the 'alpha dog' was hurt and bleeding and the 'pack' turned. I expected it. The cries about how America has lost favor and is more hated since the aftermath of 9/11 were, IMO, inevitable, no matter what she did.

From an edited (by me) review of the book "Hating America". -h/t DustmyBroom-

-In the eighteenth century, the American territory was considered wild and barbaric.

In the early to mid-nineteenth century, the American experiment in social equality was seen as a failed society.

With its growing strength and presence at the end of the nineteenth century leading up to World War II, U.S. democracy was feared as a threat to less democratic nations.

From the end of WWII through the end of the cold war, criticism of the U.S. shifted from its potential to its actual domination in world affairs.

And this latest stage encompasses a visceral reaction to American assertion of its politics, economics, and culture.-

Posted by: concrete at January 28, 2007 1:59 PM

I just want to take a minute to thank all of America's Canadian friends.

When I first came up to SDA about 4 years ago, it was when that really vocal batch of anti-Americanism floated across the border.

I'll admit, for a brief period we Americans were really stung by Canadian vitriol in a way that we would never have been hurt by someone else.

This was because most of us were pretty deluded, I guess, and we really thought that Canada was one of our greatest friends, and in fact we really didn't make a big distinction from the point of view of thinking about Canadians.

So at first when we became aware of the anti-American feelings, we did in fact get our toes stepped on.

Fortunately, this did not last very long. Very quickly, the anti-Americanism became redundant, and we began to discount it as previously we discounted such sentiments from France.

And then, people like all of my good friends here on SDA began to really get into the blogging game and created are real, pro-American counter-force.

And I think that today most Americans who think about this kind of thing at all are aware of the fact that Canadian anti-Americanism originates from leftist voices in Canada and can be considered pretty much in the same thought process that we consider the howlings of the American left.

One of the things about Jose and his ilk that is so amusing (and today it has become rather amusing) is how utterly pathological they are.

You know, even a broken clock is right twice a day. And there is plenty to criticize about the United State while at the same time being able to find some redeeming characteristics.

I probably bitch about more things about the United States to my friends and my politicians in one day than the Canadian anti-American crowd does in a week.

It would be so enormously easy simply to read the Canadian press and post a blog about everything I didn't like about Canada. But even if I did this, I would still have to single out so many things about Canada and the Canadian people that I really appreciate.

And this is what is missing from people like Jose and why their sentiment now has become amusing.

So anyway, let me take a moment just to say thank you, and extend my appreciation to all you good Canadian folks up there who apparently care about us as much as we care about you. As I've said many times, and I truly believe it, in the end we're just a bunch of friends and extended relatives.

Posted by: Greg in Dallas at January 28, 2007 2:21 PM

I just heard that Kerry said it but then he didn't say it before he actually said it. Well, we all know Kerry don't we?

Posted by: a different Bob at January 28, 2007 4:52 PM

Hey, Greg in Dallas: You're welcome. It is a privilege and an honour to stand shoulder to shoulder with our American brothers and sisters at a crossroads in the history of the world.

This is a watershed moment for mankind, and I don't stand with the let-the-Islamofascists-walk-all-over-us-because-we're-such-nice-people-because-we're-CANADIANS--and you're not nice people because you're Americans.

The Scripture says, "Without a vision the people perish." The lefties in both of our countries have only one vision: that of their own, ME-FIRST, comfortable, live-happily-ever-after lives. They don't understand that we have enemies who are intent on annihilating us; they don't understand sacrifice until it hurts in order to overcome evil. All they understand is that if we pretend to have no enemies, our enemies--who they don't believe exist--will leave us alone.

I like your motto: "In God we trust." Canada's is "Ad mare usque ad mare"--"[And He shall have dominion] from sea to sea."

If we put them together, and stand together, we may yet have a worthwhile future to hand to our children and grandchildren. Like you say, GID, we are "just a bunch of friends and extended relatives."

And I say, "Amen!" to that.

Posted by: 'been around the block at January 28, 2007 6:23 PM

The leftys that continuously bitch at the Americans will be the first to come yelping with their tail between their legs should Canada be hit with a 9-11 type event. As they try to hide behind Stephen Harper's apron strings they will still be the ones who say that we got hit because, in some way, we must have wronged those who would do that to us. What pathetic assholes.

Posted by: a different Bob at January 28, 2007 6:40 PM

I've always been amazed at the "Americans are bigots" line spouted by anti-American bigots.

They refuse to put into perspective what is happening (and happened) worldwide. America has its flaws, but to equivalentize it with the gross indecency that is going on in the world (young girls circumcised, tribal genocide carried out routinely in Rwanda and Sudan), is truly braindead.

Like one commentator noted, if these moonbats were threatened with death and rape (an everyday occurence in the enlightened lands of the Muslim world - yes the truth hurts), they would be the first demanding the Americans send in the airborne to save them.

John Kerry is an Islamofascist sycophant who has never uttered an original thought. He is truly the king of the moonbats, a serving state senator who supports anyone who is anti-Bush. This twit is so infected with Bushitis he sides with known killers who regularly shout "Death to America."

I surely hope this finished him as a politician.

Posted by: Shamrock at January 28, 2007 7:27 PM

Amen, BATB, my sentiments exactly.

And, Greg in Dallas, thanks. You say, "So anyway, let me take a moment just to say thank you, and extend my appreciation to all you good Canadian folks up there who apparently care about us as much as we care about you." I wish it were most of us, which it should be--maybe it is, but who'd know, due to the MSM--because it's only under the protection of the US that we've managed to be spared our own 9/11. And managed to live the good life we do economically: without the US as the major receiver of our goods, we'd have a pretty insipid economy.

You're most welcome, Greg in Dallas. God bless America!

Posted by: lookout at January 28, 2007 7:29 PM

Lynn "Jose, I've seen earlier posts you've made and you're either just plain stupid, or just so riddled with hatred for the United States that you can't think straight."

Well I don't hate the USA. Many Americans would agree with the statement I made.

I noticed a funny thing today. Kate posted on a liberal blog. A lot of people responded to her comments with impassioned rebuttals of their own. But no one insulted her.

Make you think?... didn't think so.

Posted by: Jose at January 28, 2007 7:50 PM

"I noticed a funny thing today. Kate posted on a liberal blog. A lot of people responded to her comments with impassioned rebuttals of their own. But no one insulted her.

Make you think?... didn't think so."

Only a moron of your caliber can't see the hate pointed at Kate on that site. Impassioned speech? Man, you do make me laugh. I had to dumb down just to try and get through those lame rebuttals. Now go scurry of to your lefty sites, adults are playing here.

Posted by: multirec at January 28, 2007 8:02 PM

A lot of people responded to her comments with impassioned rebuttals of their own. But no one insulted her.

Apparently words like "Koward Kate" and "flying monkey crowd" are now only "impassioned rebuttals"

Posted by: ol hoss at January 28, 2007 8:56 PM

Give them time. Someone will "drive home" their thoughtful rebutal by photoshopping me in a Hitler mustache.

Again.

Posted by: Kate at January 28, 2007 9:20 PM

ol hoss "Apparently words like "Koward Kate" and "flying monkey crowd" are now only "impassioned rebuttals"

I could have missed it but I just skimmed through the thread again but couldn't find "Koward Kate".

Posted by: Jose at January 28, 2007 9:50 PM

Jose people really get tired of your whinging just shut up and stay home you've nothing of substance to add to the conversation.

Ok what lib post did Kate venture too. I just gotta read that.

Posted by: Jeff Cosford at January 28, 2007 10:31 PM

I have to say I marvel at President Bush's Steel encased back-bone. To be as unwavering in his conviction to win the war under what must be monumental pressure to cave is, well, a marvel.

Posted by: Jeff Cosford at January 28, 2007 10:40 PM

WL Mackenzie Redux:
The US is now playing the global imperialist role...

Well, go over there and stop them. Instead of you chickendoves hiding behind your keyboards screeching "dissent is patriotic", and wasting your time making paper mache puppetheads of George Bush, go to Iraq, Afghanistan, and soon Iran, take up arms and stop these American imperialists.

Come on chickendoves. The terrorists can't beat the US militarily, and need your help. A peace activist was killed in Baghdad a week ago, and Rachel Corrie gave her life fighting the enemy. Do these 2 girls have more guts than you chickendoves? Where's your AK-47? The terrorists need you to fight the American military.

Posted by: Toontown Kid at January 28, 2007 11:42 PM

It's frustrating trying to win a war that liberals do not want to fight. If we win this thing it will be with one hand tied behind our back, I'm sorry to say.

Posted by: Lynn at January 29, 2007 11:32 AM

chickendoves? Chicken sh*t is a little closer to the truth.

Posted by: Boss429 at January 29, 2007 5:30 PM

JOHN kERRY STILL A MINDLESS DIM-BULB HE STILL DONT GET IT STILL AS CLUELES AS EVER A MINDLESS DUMB STUPID JACKASS

Posted by: spurwing plover at January 30, 2007 11:14 AM

So... John Kerry talking with an Iranian reformist is bad, George W. Bush holding hands with a Saudi Wahhabist is okay?

Just checking to see if you guys are as stupid as your reputation...

Posted by: MonkeyPaw at February 1, 2007 12:42 AM
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