Disgusting and vile.

Speechless!

Is nothing sacred anymore. How in God's name can making a film about having (avoiding spam filter) with animals be considered art.

I remember a story a short time ago about a man who bled to death after having (avoiding spam filter) with a horse. It appears that a man's butt is not capable of taking the size of a horse's (avoiding spam filter) Hey who knew.

An mpeg file of said gentleman in the act of having his colon perforated is in circulation on the net, marvel of marvels that it is. I've seen it - it's about 30 seconds long, and tells you all you need to know about said act, making an 80 minute exploration of "thresholds" superfluous, to my mind. The moral? Interspecies romances are dangerous, especially for the smaller of the species. In this case, man became the horse's sheep, or chicken, depending on your choice of animal husbandry (no pun intended.)

Film festivals have truly become the drain catcher in the restaurant sink of cinema - all the slimy, rotten stuff ends up there, eventually. I know - I spend several weeks of every year covering the one in Toronto. I must have really pooched my karma to deserve this punishment.

Social conservatives have been warning about the normalization of pedophilia, bestiality etc for years. As usual, we are dismissed as hysterical cranks.

Then when we turn out to be right yet again, the same people will tell us to "lighten up" and "get with it."

As surely as night follows day.

There will be a bestiality themed tv series on HBO within the next 5 years and it will win a bunch of Emmy Awards. You heard it here first.

signed, the Hysterical Crank.

Being right is scant comfort, Kathy, when you're always in the position of being right about wrong things. It's like warning your friend over and over that her attraction to darkly charismatic yet ratlike junkie men is probably going to bring her to grief, then watching as their personal life turns to hell on cue. What do you get - a messed-up, possibly junkie friend, after years of being told that you're a prude and a scold, and that you probably need to have more fun. Being a punk is actually great training for being a social conservative later in life, oddly enuf.

I'll send you my screener of the HBO bestiality show when it arrives.

Liam Neeson made a film about Kinsey , the man that claimed to move the boundary of "normal" , it was just that all his research was done with an abnormally large cut of abnormals, mainly criminals and pedo's , his 10% gay rule was accepted for years and is still accepted in some circles. when actually normalized curves suggest something smaller than 3%.

Hey, this might actually be a cure for male homersexuality. As long as the 'driving force' doesn't get horsey AIDS; PETA would be pissed.

[deleted - that was uncalled for. Ed]

"This led detectives to a nearby horse farm, where they found hundreds of hours of videotape of men from all over the world having sex with Arabian stallions."

What - no mares? That's it, I'm outa here. :-)

Still capable of astonishment after all these years...

Oh, and mary T? That was a gratuitously offensive remark, not to mention astoundingly stupid.

Yo ho Silver, awaaaay.....

The rest of the story is that man-horse love was not against the law in Washington. No animal cruelty laws were broken inasmuch as the activity was thought not to "harm" the horse. But, if down the road horses start going into therapy, we'll know why.

Lemme guess.....another instant pop cult portrayal of WAS males as :

A) Perverts
B) The village idiot
C) The scourge of the earth

What? Was Mary T. saying I was "ugly and need to get laid"? Ooops, wrong thread...

:-)

rick, indeed, so much of life these days is taken up basically talking to yourself then getting to say I told you so five years later. Or you would if your/our friends were still talking to you, but they aren't cuz you're/we're "no fun anymore".

Here's a transcript of an exchange I had on a tv show with a lefty Catholic:

HIM: Well, who could have predicted we'd even have gay marriage anyway?!

ME: Actually, Link Byfield for one was warning about that and other societal screwups for years in Alberta Report

HIM: Yeah but Byfield's a nutcase.

See how it works? The HIM has a PhD if not two. College makes you stupid. You and I are sane because we didn't go. That is an actual fact.

PS: I finally bought Richard Weaver's Ideas Have Consequences and flipped it open to this section yesterday:

"Yet it is the duty of those who can foresee the end of a saturnalia to make their counsel known. Nothing is more certain than that we are all in this together. Practically, no one can stand aside from a sweep as deep and broad as the decline of a civilization. If the thinkers of our time cannot catch the imagination of the world to the point of effecting some profound transformation, they must succumb with it. There will be little joy in the hour when they can say, 'I told you so.'"

More here:
www.intellectualconservative.com/article3020.html

Eh. It's not so entirely unprecedented. Recent Canadian examples include:

- Lynne Stopkewich's Kissed ("I love dead people.")
- David Cronenberg's Crash ("I love car accidents.")

Question: do libertarians support the right for private citizens to engage in bestiality?

For shame... you horrible conservatives are just trying to create
an argument against "separate species marriage"

"There will be a bestiality themed tv series on HBO within the next 5 years and it will win a bunch of Emmy Awards."

Already been done: it was called "The Osbornes"

"Film festivals have truly become the drain catcher in the restaurant sink of cinema" Brilliant!! Sundance and Redford really owe US an appology. At least we now know what the "Horse Whisper" was really about.

when lifestyle promotion goes terribly wrong

http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2007/01/22/viagra-lawsuit.html

when the crack gets propped open with drugs.

"There will be a bestiality themed tv series on HBO within he next 5 years and it will win a bunch of Emmy Awards" Yes there will Sean, and guess who will produce it. Called "Little Barn on the Prairie"??? Or maybe .....gee can't think of another CBC hit.

Does Sundance get any US gov't funding?

W-i-l-l-l-l-bur!!!!

Go right to the source and ask the horse
He'll give you the answer that you'll endorse.
He's always on a steady course.
Towards $%^cking Mr. Ed.

A horse is a horse
Of course, of course
And no one can talk to a horse of course -
That is of course unless the horse
Is the famous Mister Ed.
Go right to the source and ask the horse -
He'll give you the answer that you'll endorse
He's always on a steady course
Talk to Mister Ed!

Mr. Ed I'm glad that you never lived to see this.

They Shoot Directors, Don't They?

You can love your pets...just don't looooovvve your pets. Repeat after me..us...them...us...them...us.............them.

Line from movie "The Truth about Cats and Dogs"--seems appropriate here.

Wasn't it Turdeau that once said " The government has no business in the stalls of Canada's barns"?

Sorry, I have to make a joke here because to take any of Hollywood or hollywood wanna be's work seriously can lead to a stroke. The biggest problem I have is when taxpayer's dollars are used for this "art".

The old grey mare, she ain't what she used to be...

George Orwell's estate is going to sue their giant stretched asses.

How's that old punchline go.
"Yes your honour, I do, first off, that sheep is a god damned liar"

Perforated colons tell no lies.

If colons don't tolerate it, must we?

In the beastiality / polygamy race for acceptance, this makes polygamy the darkhorse.

Darwin Award Hall Of Fame!

Horses for lovers, horsesh!t for brains.

I'd say that the people who made and sponsored this vile warped film all have a healthy supply of HSFB. How on earth can anyone with an IQ over that of a baked potato be sucked in by this vile filth?

CSI My Hynie!

Kathy,

I think Ted Byfield was forwarning long before Link.

"my first interest was for the society of animals, not of man" Stephane Dion .a direct quote , now this.

oh nooooooo!!!!!!!

The Love that dare not comb it's mane !

After the release of Brokeback Mountain I suspected that the Hollywood elites, only out of boredom, would soon be looking for another alternative lifestyle to champion. But I'd never have guessed that they’d get up to it as soon as they rode the horses back to the barn.

Robert Redfords "The Horse Wanker"

my my my.

hollywood certainly has come a long way since francis the talking mule.

I warned of this new direction when the ssm issue was full blown.

and got slapped down as using 'slippery slope' argument.

how fast can a horse slide off the roof of a barn?

Lends a whole new meaning to "Jockeying For Position" How the hell do you explain horse hair on your suit to your wife?

The Love that dare not comb it's mane !

Posted by: richfisher at January 22, 2007 03:29 PM

Not THAT's both funny and clever.

These comments deserve a post of their own... LOL

[deleted - that was uncalled for. Ed]

Why are you picking on me? What did I say?

ohhhh... I see. I think I speak for men named Ed everywhere when I say that it really isn't a hardship to spell out the entire word "editor".

And please, no more Mr. Ed jokes, thanks.

And I have to agree with robertbollocks; I too was accused of using the slippery slope argument back when SSM was being crammed down our throats by unaccountable judges. Well, what the hell is wrong with using a slippery slope argument? As far as I can tell, it has been correct 100% of the time.

Gives the phrase "horsing around" a whole new meaning.

I must say, Heather Has Two Mommies is looking pretty tame right about now.

Picture Yosemite Sam,

Whoa mule, whoa mule whoa mule.....WHAP!

When ah mean whoa...ah means whoa!

While I've had to live my life with Mr Ed jokes, I will not be the butt of this new round of humour.

Kate, I just read that update about the Danish "farm". Here's the part I like the best:

"A new dissertation ... reports that 22 percent of Norwegian veterinarians suspect or are sure that they have treated animals that have been sexually abused by humans."

Harm to humans or society of concern? Hell no! The poor helpless animules, THAT is what is important here.

If a law is made it will be the bunny huggers who do it. Just like Lefties to do the right thing for completely the wrong reason

What's next? A giraffe?
Sorry.

I was told when they made Gay marriage legal that the world had not ended & there would be no more change or another attack on family values.. Indeed it was done in a mocking tone like I was an ignorant back woods bigot. My response was give it a year. Its been less!!!

Please tell me that again! These liars have been playing us from the beginning. They KNEW this would occur . Its been part of this groups plan to destroy any semblance of the Family since day one.

I aver this group of like minded sex addicts knew exactly what reading into the constitution gay rights that do not exist would result in this outcome. Would entail even more revolting flood of perversion under different guises. At the time I was told Polygamy would never happen. Tell me that again?

Now we have this mental illness erupting. The sad part is these folks are setting themselves up for a great fall. It happens every time historically.

At some point, sane or unstable driven people with no more patience with this deck of lies by these groups. Will take this into their own hands to save their own children from these lust driven ghouls. It will not be pretty.

This is not progressive but destructive to children, animals, the very human decency we see less & less because of this contempt for life & marriage. Its plain madness, by characters of no conscience & only a mind for evil. This ethical duplicity will in the end be the well they step into. To drown in this vaunted moral relevancy they revel in. NAMBLA is only a sick supreme court decision away. To the gays who do have a semblance of rationality left. You where used by malevolence disguised as self-determination, waving the flag of freedom, to push there own perverse agendas.

Kate’s post is categorically right on.

Err... any lieberals know what the age of consent is for quadrupeds?

Thanks Kate for the Enlightened Europe link. I'll never look at Danish cheese the same way again.

how fast can a horse slide off the roof of a barn?
It depends on how much KY one uses, robertbollocks.

The man's cause of death was a perforated colon.
I thought that it's rectum? (BTW, I've now lost any desire for hoofing it around Denmark.)

"What we gotta do is figure out how to make a dirty movie for the whole family."
-- an Important Hollywood Producer

I don't think we have to look too far before the reason for this direction in cinema to be apparent.

In the earlier thread on this subject I mentioned that today thousands upon thousands of kids pour into Hollywood, not with visions of movie stardom, but to become part of the adult film industry.

And it is an industry. It pulls in well over $3 billion a year, and I haven't checked for a while, so it could be $6 or $7 billion.

In fact, now so many kids are trying to get into adult films that there is not enough market to accomodate their business plans. When you consider shelf space, the number of buyers for DVDs, adult porn web sites, etc., there is literally a glut in the market.

Today these porno people actually have contracts with major studios that back their films. They bring in investors. A lot of people in the technical side of cinema go back and forth between porn and legitimate films.

Say, a lighting specialist or a makeup artist may be working on a Biblical film today and a porno film tomorrow. A famous port actress was almost made the official spokeswoman for Gillette, and she would have been successful, but for Bill O'Reilly's very public objections. She recently sold her production company for multi-millions... it may be a publicly traded company -- I'm unsure.

I could go on, but I'm just trying to demonstrate that this is a huge, multi-billion-dollar business.

You don't have to be a brain surgeon to see that the legitimate film market sees that enormous megabucks are pouring into an industry where they cannot legitimately compete. And with porn ready to exploit every sexual situation the mind of humanity is capable of dreaming up, the legitimate cinema sees itself as losing money like water going down a drain.

They feel they can only tap into some of this vital market if they can stretch the envelope enough to start raking in some of the dollars that otherwise might go to Hollywood's shadow industry, the porn business.

There are already crossover "artists" like Tracy Lords who started in the porn business as a 17-year-old and now is married to that guy who produced Pink Flamingos. She's had moderate success in her own right as an actress in a string of films.

So the bottom line on all this is that the average movie goer is something like a 25- or 26-year-old guy with his date, and they are the ones shelling out most of the money for the adult videos.

And all this is one of the reasons that I'm a conservative and not a libertarian, because I believe that people in society do have a right do determine what they regard as decency and what they regard as support for new generations of children.

Peggy Noonan once said that in the past you relied on society to help raise your children, but today you do everything you can to protect your children from society.

Progressive ;)

What I want to know - seriously: Is there any danger of another worldwide pandemic in the making? If you die of a perforated colon, can you sue the owner? Will Canadian sex tourists travel to Denmark the way they do to Thailand?
The questions are endless. Like, should we have allowed the Nazis to overrun Europe?

I watched a bit of an interview with Redford today...pontificating on how no one with intelligence or integrity or a sense of decency could condone or support what "Bush" has done!

It's official then ...I have no Intelligence or Integrity and no sense of decency! Thanks for clearing that up Redford!

I don't suppose anyone who writes here would recall a movie Titled Equus...but that's not quite the same thing.

*sswipe........
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6278127.stm

When ever I see references to beastiality, I just assume a joke, because it is fucking sick. Are these people serious???

If a woman really wants a "horse" she should seek me out.

Quote:

"Zoo is the complete antithesis of what you expect".

Exactly.

A: You ask:

Question: do libertarians support the right for private citizens to engage in bestiality?

Yes. I am a libertarian. I support the right of people to make jack-asses of themselves.

A libertarian is a right-wing anarchist. I do not tell people how to behave, I expect them to behave as they see fit. As I do. I do not get horse-fucked, it sounds absurd if not unpleasnat and unhealthy. Those who do are not worthy of my respect.

"I thought that it's rectum?"

Rectum? Damned near killed him!

Not sure if that old joke works unless you say it out loud.
I think my favorite comment was the mane joke by richfisher.

Thank you, christopher, for (finally) giving the punchline to the straight line. (Although I was expecting most readers to give the punchline themselves--but, still, preferably aloud!)

I'll quote from the referenced article:
"In correspondence with the animal owners, the newspaper was told that the animals involved have many years of experience and that the animals themselves wanted sex."

If you believe the article, that this is a long standing practice, then how do you relate it to gay marriage being legalized 2-3 years ago on another continent?

Let's apply a little logic here. Before gay marriage was legal, these places existed. To imply cause and effect from legalization of gay marriage is not only illogical, it's ridiculous.

I fully supported the Conservative party and Stephen Harper. I even did commentary on CBC TV wearing a Homos for Harper t-shirt. Yet, using your the same flawed logic, people could claim we didn't heard of this type of place before Harper was in power; therefore, the Conservatives must be responsible for it.

How about we act together to pass laws in our own country to make sure it doesn't happen here? That'd be a new approach, Canadians actually working together to get things done instead of constantly whining about who's fault it is that nothing moves forward.

"Social conservatives have been warning about the normalization of pedophilia, bestiality etc for years. As usual, we are dismissed as hysterical cranks."

Sarge here. good jumpin' jesus. you think a kinky horse film is all it takes to "normalize" playing hide the keilbasa with a horse? is exposure to more horse porn what's holding you back personally? do ya think yer neighbors kids will see this and take up saddlery? sarge is of a mind that a horse f*cker is born a horse f$cker and comes to it naturally. sarge thinks the rev dobson might try to reform them horse f@ckers but i am not sure it is possible.

sarge is impressed that the big mind of miss kate has somehow made a abberant if arty horseporn flik into a case of them nasty liberals being out to normalize screwin' little human kiddies. sarge can't quite believe this is what passes for a good political website in kanukistan. y'all pretty rural in yer thinkin. this delisle must be a bit outtn' the sticks, sarge thinks.

Kate would be more impressed with "sarge" if he actually paid attention to which statements are mine and which aren't.

This lack of perception seems to be a persistant trait among my so-called critics.

Paedophilia has been normalized for years, its called the Catholic Church. As to bestiality, well I don't see it taking off in popularity. If anything it was probably more popular in humanities past than it is now in these more progressive times.

I'm surprised that no earnest progressive liberal has yet chimed in here that it's just a matter of time until researchers discover the bestiality gene.

Also the necrophilia gene, the pedophilia gene, and the genes for every other alternative lifestyle.

"Paedophilia has been normalized for years, its (sic) called the Catholic Church"

Jose, that's unfair.

Why is it that people like Jose are so quick to include that men who abuse boys in the church are priests - but so reluctant to mention that they're gay?

Imagine his outrage had a different commentor written:

"Paedophilia has been normalized for years, its called the gay community"

Why is it that people like Jose are so quick to include that men who abuse boys in the church are priests - but so reluctant to mention that they're gay?

Why are people so willing to give the Catholic church a free pass on paedophilia?

Since we're pulling out the old jokes:

What are the three most common lies in Arkansas?

Officer, that's water in that jug.

Sure my sister's a virgin.

I was just helping that pig over the fence.