I saw the CBC's "reporter" last night declare that the expansion of the oil sands mining will only worsen the worst polluter, (Alberta oil) or something to that extent.

I thought Ontario Hydro was the biggest contributor to the greenhouse gas boogyman and that Syncrude was number 4 or 5.....Oh right, I was watching CBC/Radio Free Moscow I should know better that Alberta is the enemy and the left-lib MSM is the "war effort".

The CBC does more to tear this country apart than almost any other force in this country. Once again the CBC they portrayed Albertans as lowlife colonials who are selling their soul to the evil Americans. The CBC constant stream of propaganda has to have an effect on many Eastern voters allowing them to see no wrong in raping and pillaging the West with programs like the NEP, CWB and if Dion has his way a carbon tax that would again crush Alberta's economy and tranfer wealth to the East. Man I despise the CBC.

A couple of things:

That meeting took place Jan 24-25 in Houston.

Our election was Jan 23rd, was it not?

So which government arranged that meeting?

And who attended the day after the federal election?

Second, interesting choice of reporters, all of a sudden for the CBC....

Maybe they don't know how to search their own database. Too many affirmative action hirings or something.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/manitoba/story/2004/05/07/mb_tory20040507.html

The Conservative candidate in Charleswood-St. James-Assiniboia says he's ready to take on Mayor Glen Murray in the upcoming federal election.

Mayor Murray announced Friday that he will accept the Liberal nomination in the riding, which has been held since 1988 by Liberal John Harvard. Harvard announced Thursday he would not seek re-election; on Friday the prime minister appointed him the province's next lieutenant-governor.

May 7, 2004: It's official: Murray to run federally

Conservative candidate Steven Fletcher says Murray should expect a tough fight. If the Tory and Alliance vote been combined in the 2000 election, he points out, John Harvard would have lost by nearly 8,000 votes.

Could Murray have sour grapes?

more fact un-checking from today. I'll bet ya Bill Clinton is really pissed this enviro-weeneie gives Dubya the credit for nuking the American participation in Kyoto.

LONDON, England (Reuters) -- This will be a crunch year for action on the climate crisis, a leading environmental lobbyist said on Wednesday.

Never have the opportunities been better and the danger from failure greater, Friends of the Earth chief Tony Juniper said in an interview with Reuters.

"There is an urgency that wasn't there before," Juniper said. "The science is there, the economics is there and the politics is there ...If they don't take this opportunity then we really should start to think about the future of life on earth."

Early next month the International Panel on Climate Change will produce the first of four key reports this year assessing the latest scientific knowledge on global warming.

The Kyoto Protocol is the only global pact obliging signatories to cut carbon dioxide emissions, but the United States withdrew from it and booming emitters China and India are not signatories. It expires in 2012 and negotiations to find a way forward or a replacement are sluggish.

U.S. President George W. Bush, who rejected Kyoto, will have left office by 2009 and the mood in the United States has become more favorable to action on climate change.

Margo McDiarmid, another of CBC's finest.
What is it with these people? Do they think we all fell off the turnip wagon?
They better take heed, we relegated Christina Lawand to an out of sight posting when she was caught tinkering with facts to manipulate opinion.
We cannot afford to tolerate this crap , Pravda, reinvented.

"• Global warming: Murky signals from the White House hint that Bush might soon agree to a cap on greenhouse emissions, part of a broader deal to revive the Kyoto Accords. White House spokesman Tony Snow denies it. Good. Kyoto is a bad deal, regardless of the politics. It will cost the U.S. about $212 billion to $390 billion in lost GDP each year, according to a wide range of estimates. Total cost by 2020: as much as $5.5 trillion.

It's true the U.S. is today the No. 1 producer of global greenhouse gases, with 20% of the total. But China is No. 2, at 15%. As you read this, it has plans to build 562 coal-fired power plants. So it will soon pass the U.S. India comes in fourth. Guess what? Neither country, nor most of the developing world, is covered by Kyoto.

So the U.S. will pay trillions and impoverish its own citizens to watch others pollute even more and grow — with no decline in the output of global greenhouse gases at all. This is an epic mistake."

So the US has a 5.5 Trillion dollar meltdown and 85 % of our exports go to the US. Okay, now we just shut down Canada as the US commits Kyoto economic suicide.

What's the Chinese translation of the Japanese term 'hari kari'?

It is absurd to call Murray an expert on the environment - even his mother could not bring herself to say that.
But the CBC could make something like that up and feed it to their couple hundred listeners.

Same old same old from CBC...
The mind boggling thing is how anyone takes them seriously. The only explanation is a depth of ignorance and gullibility that defies belief!

All funding for CBC should be cut ASAP.....

Here is my e-mail to the CBC Ombudsman and his response........In other words, piss off peon!

Dear
I write to acknowledge this e-mail, as well, which I am sharing with Jonathan Whitten along with the request that your concerns be addressed.

Yours truly,

Vince Carlin
Ombudsman, CBC

01/18/07 2:22 PM

Dear Sir,

Again the CBC National is guilty of fabricating a story about a secret meeting to expand the Oil Sands production from one million barrels per day to Five million. The fact is this meeting was not secret and has been in the public domain for almost a year!

This is another in the long series of fabricating or massaging stories/reports to forward an obvious agenda and that is to dupe the viewing public into re-electing Canada's most corrupt ever political party, the Liebranos!

When are you going to take action to compel the CBC to tell both sides of a story and above all to try a new idea, to try telling the truth sometime before they are shut down!

I do not want to see another penny of my tax dollars put toward these shills for the Liebranos and the NDP.

Sincerely,

oh my , CBCpravda at it again.

one might expect better for a mere billion a year.

Steffi is on Newman's cbc show right now.Just repeated the easy money line and quoted the CBC report saying Harper is secretly planning to boost oilsands development for Bush.

Loooooooooooooooooooooser.

I caught that report on the National last night. Right away I had suspicions because, as the report pointed out, the meeting happened right after the Conservatives took over (thus making it seem like its a Conservative initiative).

But, I had a hard time accepting the idea that such a meeting/plan was not developed over the previous months or even year or more (thus under the Liberals).

It seemed to me that the report was timed to counter the Conservatives who are now not looking so vulnerable on the environmental file. They're making strides that have a political impact...so, it stands to reason that the Liberal-friendly ad organization (the CBC) had to pull out something to try and slow them down.

this $13000 very important to CBCpravda.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/01/18/khan-report.html

Messr Dion!!! - have Groupaction and a few others send in their reports. what are we $100million into the glue.

CBC, why don't you ask where the Tsunami money is.

They don't mean this prominent Muslim do they?

3w.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20041027.welmasry27/BNStory/National/

"Two prominent Arab Canadians, Mohamed Elmasry and Khalid Mouammar, were quoted in a report by the Globe and Mail on Tuesday as saying Khan was not qualified to speak on the Middle East.

Elmasry is the national president of the Canadian Islamic Congress, while Mouammar is the president of the Canadian Arab Federation"

Trying to remember where i heard that name.Oh yeah!!

Bob Rae supports Israeli apartheid. Don't elect a leader who supports apartheid."

The Canadian Jewish Congress has condemned the flyer and blamed Khaled Mouammar, president of the Canadian Arab Federation for circulating it. The federation has, in turn, accused the CJC of making "a pitiful attempt to discredit" it and has denied producing or distributing the flyer

CBC mandate: Never let the facts or truth get in the way of an opportunity to slag Harper or Alberta.

Send your comments and complaints to Tony Burman Editor In Chief of CBC News....the ombudsman is just a filter and gatekeeper between the public and the organization. Burman has to take responsibility....well is supposed to!

Perhaps Alberta should launch its own Canada wide broadcasting program.
Their mandate could also be "to report the news"
Something has to be done to offset the ridiculous reporting going on at the CBC.
If nothing else it could request a share of the CBC funding

Meanwhile,

the CP/Star releases a poll reporting a bad sign for the CPC, after Alberta numbers are taken out.

Apparantly taking Toronto numbers out for the Libs wasn't of interest, presumably that would wreck the predetermined story line.

I want steady Eddy to request that Albertas share of the CBC bill be deducted. thats about 10% and the 10% of the vacant airtime be filled with reruns of "Rainbow Country"

I listen to CBC 2: I usually like the music. The news is absurd and dangerously increases my blood pressure.

On my way home from work, the 6 o'clock news (sic) was a joke. There was no news--just views: all spun from the left, all anti-Harper (ditzy story about the Lib shadow cabinet) and anti-American, except for the nice Democrat, who loves Canadians, "our best ally", who was slamming a Bushie for being mean to Arar. My head's spinning from all the contradictions here. Then there was a long, banal piece on Poles in Scotland. (If I weren't on a busy road, in a small car, very close to the radio, I'd throw something at it!)

This is news? No, it's crap, paid for by all of us. Bloody, stupid CBC. It can't lose its phony status and funding too soon for me. (I can listen to music on other channels.)

well given that ex-PM Paul Martin's name is on the first page of the report along with President Bush and former Presidente Vincente Fox, I am quite curious to see how the CBC is going to spin this old news...

that this was announced in March of 2005 ! and took place in January of 2006, I think that who should be on trial in the (normal) media, is the so called government propoganda wing of the Liberal party... how this spins now as news? ....oh blow it out your ass CBC.
I cannot believe we still pay for this shit.

I've looked a bit for the Editor in Chief's emaill addy so that I could send him along my thoughts and havn't had much luck. Anybody got it?

Regards,
Pat

"I want steady Eddy to request that Albertas share of the CBC bill be deducted. thats about 10% and the 10% of the vacant airtime be filled with reruns of "Rainbow Country"" A

Actually since Alberta is one of the "Have" provinces our share of the bill comes in at a lot higher than 10%.

The US ecconomy drives Alberta's economic engine and were dragging the rest of the country along with us. I wonder what CBC is going to do for funding when Albertans tell Ottawa to piss off. I've been doing a little polling of my own, if you think the idea of a Alberta Republic is a dead issue, think again.

We'll take Canada's best and leave Ontario the rest.

BTW eskimoe did you also notice the smear job on the S and R Aircraft purchase? The Lib hack said he could have saved Canada 150 million on the purchase of new planes, yeah just like all the money they saved on the helicopters, the canvas Iltus deathtrap at a cost of sixty-four grand apiece, (gotta support Bombardier) and the Mercedes Death Wagon. I would imagine you would have also noticed that the reason our Navy ships are tied up at dock is because we are spending too much in Afghanistan. LOL wouldn't have anything to do with the previous goverments blowing over a hundred million on unneeded planes so da boss can look good, 45 million for useless, unflyable, flags, a billion dollar useless gun registry, all the while the fleet is allowed to slip into dis-repair. Then we have the stolen money in Adscam, the eleven billion in hidden money, the two million the RCMP stole, the two hundred and fifty thousand office makeover, eleven hundred dollar boots! Piss on the CBC!

CP/star releases winning poll with Alberta numbers out.

yeah , I wish.

FREE THE WEST.!!!!!

Harpers New Years resolution should be to start the break up of the CBC. Its harming Canada as a whole with its far left braying. No journalistic integrity I agree with.

Google to "The Separation Party of Alberta" and JOIN IT!

The CBC is like a like a bovine with four broken legs and mad cow disease destroying it's brain. It's time to put the wretched creature out of it's misery. Only the inhumane would let such a sad thing continue to suffer, hand out the pink slips and sell the hard assets.

Here is the email for Tony Burman:
Tony_Burman@cbc.ca

Google the CBC Ombudsman and send in your complaints. Be sure to be specific re. the program you are concerned with and include your name,address and phone number.

You will see some strange claims there: "accuracy, fairness, and integrity" and you will see CBC commits to "...lack of bias in reporting." Yeah Right!!

Remind the Ombudsman of these claims when you write.

Google the CBC Ombudsman and send in your complaints. Be sure to be specific re. the program you are concerned with and include your name,address and phone number.

You will see some strange claims there: "accuracy, fairness, and integrity" and you will see CBC commits to "...lack of bias in reporting." Yeah Right!!

Remind the Ombudsman of these claims when you write.

The CBC in Canada, to use an analogy, is somewhat like an Aunt invited to live with a Family.
The Aunty gets room and board and provides the Family with some entertainment and advice, even information about other relatives and neighbours in the Town and the rest of County.
The Family lives happily for many years but as time passes, changes take place.

Aunty has more needs, nicer clothes, makeup, etc. and keeps costing the Family handy sums each year.
Meanwhile the entertainment gets tiresome, the news about the neighbours becomes more negative and, very, very persistent,
almost an agenda of purpose of how the Family should live its life, or whom it should view as friends.

Aunty’s news of the County is slanted, always has been and always very socially progressive.
Often details are nuanced or omitted to the point of making the Family and other relatives uneasy about her believability or biased storytelling.

Aunty has lived the good life with the Family, however, she mistakenly feels she is indispensable to the Family.

But in the intervening years the Family has a newborn “news carrier”, with thousands of new friends who can carry the news very quickly and accurately with peer correction if needed.
Subsequently the newborn “news carrier” can bring up Aunty very quickly when she nuances or slants a story for her own tastes .

The newborn and friends have a clear understanding about the dissension Aunty is creating in the Family and begin pointing out to the neighbours in the County that it's time for Aunty to go out and live by her own wits and free the Family from the billions of dollars per year she is costing the family.

The Family has also grown up ( no, not two moms to a kid ) and the household has a new head but just hasn’t quite made up his mind what to do with the Aunty, cautious not to turn some old relatives against him .

Most people who are friends of the new “news carrier” think it’s time for the new Family head to put Aunty out just as soon as possible, because the feeling is that Aunty has served her purpose and would be just as happy in the world of other adults who are also news and entertainment carriers.
And just think what the Family could do with an extra billion dollars a year to keep the County’s little ones from poverty.
OR buy “Hot air credits” from China!

Ok, so I followed the link, and apparantely some normal sort of meeting happened and a report was published or something like that. Meanwhile, the media are quoting that Alberta would have to quintuple its output in some sort of short term, and weaken its environmental protection.

What the media fails to comment on appropriately, and this is an egregious violation of journalist integrity, is that there's no way either of those are going to happen. First, Prime Minister Harper already said we're not going to weaken our environmental protection, and Albertans don't want to either.

Second, we can't expand anything like that fast, even if everbody agreed we wanted to. Do these people have any idea of how much work, from design and engineering to construction and operation and maintenance goes in to these plants? Apparently not.

Remember, for every doubling of output, we have to reproduce a significant proportion of all the plant facility already in existence. And we already have projects backed up in the development queue going into decades. We can't just ramp up critical skilled workers, both white and blue collar -- where would we get them from? They're in demand everywhere. And where would we keep them? Are we to double our houses, roads, schools, and hospitals in the short term too? And keep sending billions of dollars a year to Quebec?

Yes, we're breaking our backs here in Alberta trying to bring you the product you so strongly desire at your high rates of consumption, but you expect too much: we're not going to expand that fast. Get in line, Mr. Output Quintupler.

Environment Minister, what Environment Minister?

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=254e12c6-b309-431f-91e0-43cc34291a7a

A little off topic (sort of).

The biggest problems with present and any additional expansion of the oil sands are energy requirements and water requirements. Water will obviously be the most contentious and I believe it entails interprovincial responsibility which means federal environmental involvement.

The massive energy requirements have resulted in local natural gas wells being shut-in to be dedicated for the oil sands. This has, in part, resulted in the Coal Bed Methane developmental push which has the potential to create a large rural - urban voter disconnect due to the potential environmental impact on ground water.

I'm all for development but what we have had here in Alberta is unmanaged boom. With the new environmental horse that seems to be the latest political craving to power I expect there will soon be an unmanaged bust on the horizon. Been there, done that once already (NEP1).
The game is afoot (Shirlock Holmes).

CBCpravda AM this morning, they covered the conservative announcement of wind turbines out on vancouver island.

then they found the most viral critic of windturbines in the world to dis. it.

and they managed to get in a few shots above "dirty fossil fuels"

easy to see that CBC is entirely a political game.
CBCpravda "All Liberal , All of the time"

Dion: "I know nothing"
Sgt.Schultz -- Hogan's Heroes "I know nothing"

Im just wondering about why the feds were even involved other than for an export permit.

Reminds me of a time about 15 years ago, I was officed in the same building as the federal department of energy. Rode up the elevator with Roland Priddle and some senior civil servant broad. She was ragging on about how energy developement in Canada shouldnt be determined by "a bunch of farmers elected in Alberta", Roland was stoic.

apparently democracy doesnt mean anything to senior federal civil servants either.

I constantly have my opinion of CBC confirmed....it is less a public information vehicle as a venue for Ottawa-GTA-Montreal left wing evangelism.

Most of the time CBC's outwardly partisan preachiness is apparent to even the most oblivious listener....so who are they really preaching to? CBC's audience is rediculously small. Must be a hard core dogmatic partisan left demographic who tune in for their daily validation of fallacious utopianism.

It is bad enough for the CBC to exhibit their clear bias; now we have:

- journalistic incompetence about a "secret" meeting that was in the public domain 3 months before the "investigation" by CBC began

- CBC implying that this was CPC/Harper's doing and, of course, proof they are not "serious" about the environment

- refusal, as I understand it, to back away from this story after they have been thoroughly outed

- no acknowledgement that these meetings took place under auspices of Martin and Chretien governments, not CPC

- no acknowledgment that Mr Dion, in spite of being Environment Minister, that he was unaware of this meeting (checked cbc.ca today, no mention that I could see)

- no knowledge or disclosure of where oil sands ranks as an emitter in Canada

- no critique on the viability of this plan in the first place (my understanding, unlikely to happen)

When bias affects professionalism, it is time for corrective action. When I think back to the 06 election, I remember the CBC never backed off their disdain for CPC, even though CTV and others at least made an attempt or tried to appear balanced.

As far as I am concerned, actions like this by the CBC reinforce the views of those who want to kill it now. CBC is providing the rope for their hanging.

The cbc is more of a danger to Canada than global warming. Go to Drudge and read the comments on TWC crap. Of 178 posts, only 2 thought she had some brains. There were some very intelligent comments debunking algor and the rest of the idiots. I imagine someone forged Martins name on that document. So, the cbc brings out a report that has been available to anyone wanting it, from over a year ago and try to con the public that it just happened. Meeting took place in 2006, very plain on the report, and the cbc tries to pretend it is just happening. Another lib lie.
Look how long it took the liberals to plan a leadership convention, almost a year. So, it is logical to think this meeting in Houston took a lot longer to plan. Especially since liberals were involved. If this meeting was secret, it was to give the libs time to figure out how they could steal the profits from Alberta, with another oilscam plan, since adscam was coming to an end. So, in Jan 2006 Martin wanted to increase oilsands production but something happened on the way to the forum, he lost. Now, dion says it is a bad idea, or is the fact of the matter is he knew about this plan and the potential profits, and that is why he said his plan would not hurt AB, cause he knew there was much more money coming.
OT but important. Little sisters bookstore in BC has lost its case to get the feds to pay for their lawsuit againt the government. They say they can't afford it themselves, so where are the human rights lawyers, jumping on the bandwagon to take the case for free. Where are all the gay rights groups offering to pay it. Thank God that the court challenge program was cancelled. Next to go, the cbc.

Dion I know nothing

Q- Mr dion did you know about a secret meeting in houston
A- I know nothing

Q- how much did you know about the Adscam operation
A- I know nothing

Q- Were the brown paper bags enviromentaly freindly
A- I know nothing

Q- do you think you can win a seat in Alberta
A- I know nothing

Q- Will you give up your French citizenship
A- I know nothing

Q- do you think you need more sustainable female mp's
A- i know nothing

Q- do you think the sun will rise in the east today
A- I know nothing

Q- did you ever watch the TV show Hogan's Heroes in the Sixties
A- I know nothing

Readers Digest has a joke that as far as the cbc is concerned is not a joke.
When should you never believe what a man says:
1. When he is in love, as Peter is with the CBC
2 When he is drunk, as Peter is with his idea he has power and respect.
2. When he is running for office, as dion is for PM.

I heard Paul Martin was all for letting the environment in Alberta go - just sell the oil and use the $$ to make his 'base' beautiful. This is one of the many reasons that I voted for Prime Minister Stephen Harper.

I have lived in Alberta, it is a beautiful province, I do not want it destroyed for the benefit of other provinces. In fact, this could be the reason the Liberanos did not make any environmental rules - they planned to buy carbon credits with our money, filter it back to the Liberano Party via Mo tse and his thugs, and kill two birds with one rock. "The best laid plans of mice and men oft go astray" the last election has hit a lot of Liberano's where it hurts, me thinks, in the pocket book.

There is always an evil agenda for people and property if a Dipper/Liberano is involved - esp if it is Western Canadian interests on the butcher block. We are not liked by the left wingo elitists.

So how much longer do our tax dollars have to keep going into the CBC? Why doesn't Harper scrounge up the nuts and just cut funding to CBC in his upcoming budget?

Thanks to JayJee for the Editor in Chief's email address: Tony_Burman@cbc.ca

I sent him along a brief note.

Howdy Mr. Burman,

This Gendron story on Alberta's Oil Sands is a year old and was done by "Liberals In the Dark" as the then Environment minister S. Dion, "wasn't there, didn't know so it must have been done in the dark.

With the flack that is directed at the CBC, this year old story put out as breaking news, does not help your cause, in fact it makes the CBC look downright silly, not to mention, incredibly biased.

Regards,
Pat Patrick
Powell River, BC.

Perhaps Harper could cut funding to the CBC and give it to quebec for equalization. What would the cbc have to say about that.

If you get a chance, listen to the lib critic on environment, this a.m. trying to use this same meeting as if it just happened. He has the wrong city and state, but the same 5 fold increase, in responding to announcements from the govt today.