Aptly put.

This man is either content writing off Western Canada for Liberal support or unbelievably ill-informed about our history and issues. I tend to believe the latter - judging by the fact that he so willingly voices such comments.

...how does the saying go?

"Nothing new under the sun."

Yup.

There's that concept again "sustainable development"...and the umpteenth time I've heard it from Dion......cummon Steve, pull the mask off and admit what you are and what the agenda is. Dione is a perfect watermellon...green on the outside and red at the core.

Folks whenever you hear that toss-off phrase "sustainability" or "sustainable development" in relation to federal resource/land policies it's coming from someone who has bought into the UN's global socialist agenda of centralizing land use and defacto ownership in government.

The phrase was seldom used before it appeared in the UN's agenda 21 blueprint for centralized control of resources. It is used as plecbo verbiage for central government control of private property, resources and land use...and it comes from right out of the UN agenda 21 plan to subvert the private property laws of sovereign nations....Dion is a UN socialist...never forget that. He has Moe Strong's arm up his tuckass making his lips move.

http://www.sovereignty.net/p/gov/stevenyates-6.html

I can see Dion will be as popular in the west as a warble outbreak.

"I'm not there to kill the growth, I'm there to make the growth sustainable," he said. "I don't want to kill the milk cow. But I want to make sure that the milk will still be good and there for our grandchildren."

Leave it to a French commie to talk about other people's milk like it was his own.

he said that???

why anyone west of ontario would vote for dion now is totally beyond me.

the equivalent of harper going to quebec and saying the english won the plains of abraham

oce again, i cant believe you would have a liberal mp west of ontario after that

My personal favorite is Dion's assertion that people working in the oilsands are earning "easy money" and that this "is not good for the economy".

I suppose teaching sociology at the University of Montreal for 11 years must have qualified Citoyen Dion to pontificate on what jobs constitute "easy money". Obviously he must have performed, for example, much heavy machinery repair at -40 in the UofM faculty lounge.

The original caption for this political cartoon was "Fed in the West, milked in the East and evacuates [syn.] on the Maritimes."
The first time I saw it was in the early 1960s. The artistry suggests that it was drawn early in the 1900s.
Nothing has changed.

"why anyone west of ontario would vote for dion now is totally beyond me".

There will be lots of people votong for Dion west of Ontario, due to the fact the west is booming. The eastern(ontario) dunderheads are going west for the big bucks and will import their leftist views of "big government controlling our pityful lives is good for the collective concience of our nation"....remember those Star Trek bad guys the Borg? Thats what Ontario is.....one big red/liberal/dipper collective that believes anything big brother says.

I personally subcribe to what my grand daddy taught me.....if it smells like shite...it's shite!

I'm surprised nobody escorted the French citizen out of the province with a gun.

Listening to Citoyen Dion is like listening to re-runs of the Moe Strong saga. This man is dangerous to Canadians.

Classic Kate! Where do you get this stuff?! BTW...odie don't give up on all of out here in Lib La La'tario.

What an absolutely perfect political cartoon. Says it Exactly.

WLyonMackenzieRedux - I fully agree with both your posts.

When Dion talks about the milk being 'good for our grandchildren' - he means for the Quebecois. Remember, by the way, that Quebec is, by federal law, privileged as dairy producers in Canada. They alone are allowed the produce the most milk and cream products; not the West.

As for Dion's reference to Alberta oil work as 'easy money' - he has insulted each and every worker in the country.

But again, he's not interested in votes from the West. His agenda is basic. He wants to get votes in the Maritimes, in Quebec and Ontario. To hell with the West. He's not interested in it except as 'food' for the East. Exactly as shown in the cartoon.

To get these votes, he has to show Quebec that he, not the Bloc or the CPC, can get them access to Alberta's money. His agenda is to pick up seats from the Bloc. If he gets seats in Quebec and Ontario - he can form a gov't with that area alone.

To get the Ontario and urban Quebec vote, he also has to show himself as a member of the Kyoto Religion.

Those are his two tactics to get votes. In Ontario and in Quebec.

I'm not sure exactly how to deal with these two malicious and amoral tactics he's using to gain Power. Above all, don't give in to the East. I think the West has to stand firm, be very vocal, be constantly vocal - and refuse to be used.

has it changed?....considerably....if you think the west is as it was 100 years ago you have missed something.

has political power caght up, not totally...next census and seat distribution does that.

census was just done last year, results this year and the redistribution should be in a couple more years.

it will be interesting since as others have pointed out the pop of the west is probably better than than que.....how they are going to deal with the seat dist will be interesting....but ont. is underrepped in seats as well.

slow inexorable and inevitable shift. i truely believe the shift to senate reform will come after that when quebec really loses power in the commons....when you can reasonably expect a majority without quebec representation it will be a real bucket of coldwater. Quebecers will either want to retreat and seperate or they will try to make sure they back the right horse.

Stephane The Dummy says, "But I want to make sure that the milk will still be good and there for our grandchildren."

I'm just curious about whose grandchildren he's talking about.

His comment's a bit like Hilary Cleenton's, that it takes a village to raise "our" children.
I've always wondered just who in this village, Hilary thinks, is going to raise the children unless there are some women who still stay home in the 'hood to keep a watch over them. Hilary and the women she champions can't be found anywhere near hearth and home--but she seems to expect OTHER women who do keep the home fires burning will raise the kids.

So typical of a l/Liberal. So who's grandchildren are we talking about here, Stephane? Yours? All the babies that havne't been born because of the Liberals' 'generous' and misplaced abortion policies?

I don't follow your line of reasoning...

A cartoon from a-way back. Still true today as far as the Media is concerned. And that is the problem. Because, whenever I am in Ontario I find that it is not the people that have this attitude. Not many politicians either and certainly not many businesses. It is the Media that fosters and perpetuates the conflict. It's good for THEIR business.

Trudeau and Lalonde's NEP (National Energy Policy) was a big milk cow. However, Dion's strategy will not work in this day and age. There are lots of 'Albertas' now. NFLD, Sask, NS, BC, Manitoba. Lesser scale yes, but still.

The UN Maurice Strong's Kyoto is the 'Mother of all Milk Cows'. Dion did not think up 'milk cow' on his own. He did not remember it from the 80s either. Wasn't folklore in all things France. He brought it up because he was directed to. By Desmarais, Power Corp, Strong, Chretien, Lalonde, ect, but mostly with a wink from our beloved divisive Media and the reporter hacks. IMO.

Maybe even the owners of TWN... below;

~~ ALERT ~~

David Suzuki is doing a series of interviews on The Weather Network. http://www.theweathernetwork.com/twn/releases/20070112.htm

The big news here is, Chris Sinclair invites our feed-back.

E-mail: dlangton@pelmorex.com (the boss at TWN)

and

E-mail: jsmallbridge@davidsuzuki.org (some person)

gordonm:

I have seen the earlier caption as well; do not know if it was changed for PC reasons or because the Atlantic provinces are now milkers as well...

The dairy industry is almost completely controlled by quebec Companies. In the case of butter try and find one large Canadian Dairy Company today that doesn't get it's butter stock from quebec. I stand corrected on this point as it's been years since reading that but I did some research at the time and found that to be mostly the case. Going a way back, to the late 50's early 60's, does anyone out there remember an article about the dairy industry dumping excess butter stock in the ocean off Newfoundland to protect prices?

The cartoon say's it all.

Just the fact that Dion is beating "green" issues to death shows that Liberals are out of ideas. This man is a gift to the Conservatives.

First time I saw this cartoon was back in the 60's in a farm paper. It makes its appearance every so often, but it is still true. This time dion has cut off more than he can chew. Doesn't he know cows are supposed to be the biggest contributor to ghg. Somebody should educate that man. Anyone remember an episode of This Hour Has 7 days, where some woman was showing how to diaper a cow, to stop some smell problem in areas built up around farms. I am not making that up.

WC, yes I remember, and they also dumped milk.

Is it too much to ask for the LPC to choose a leader that can actually speak English intelligibly? Seriously. I spent six years in a French immersion school system as a youth, speak rudimentary French, and I still can't understand a damn thing Dion says. I have to read the news online after catching Dion on television to find the translation of what he said.

I suppose this is what I get for speculating that nobody would ever be able to top Cretin's mangled English.

I was present last night at the Calgary " Town Shakedown " . Anyone who thinks Cretien has problems with spoken English , think again . Dion seemed capable ( barely ) with his canned garbage , as soon as any minor thought was required , he mangled it . Harper will eat him alive in any English language debate . The only reason he came to Calgary was for fundraising . In his own words " ...we need MONEY " . All hail Group Action ... I mean Participaction .

Shouldn't the cow be crapping somewhere? like on Labrador and Newfoundland for instance.

Can you imagine some Pr!(k coming into Alberta and telling the guys on the rigs that it's easy money and bad for the economy? And being able to smile and show white? And right after that to refer to Alberta as the Milk Cow!!!

Someone said it much better earlier on another thread, that the sole purpose of this is to create division, East against West and in so doing gain seats in the vote rich Que/Ont. areas.

The guy may be a scum bag, but his handlers are not stupid. The West gets pissed off, disses his English and how stupid the French are and Zot!!! Division and he's a hero in Quebec.

More here with this Cretin/Mo boy than meets the eye, and none of it good.

mary T

Thank you, I was wondering if it was my memory playing tricks. About the same time as I recall they also slapped a huge import duty on shoes to protect quebec's Bata Shoes. Coming across the border a few years back I was a little over my limit and was hit with a 40% duty on shoes I had bought, that was with free trade in effect. Wonder if they ever did away with that one?

vf said
BTW...odie don't give up on all of out here in Lib La La'tario.

I have not given up on Ontario VF, I am in the Ottawa area myself, who by the way voted in the most conservatives in Ontario...my riding included!

I was just trying to make the point that the Hypogrits from Ontario will for damn sure go to AB take the big money and reap the benefits from the oil industry...yet still bitch and moan about how AB is destroying the climate and complain how the west wants to ruin their Canada!

WC, I didn't pay anything for the shoes I bought in Vegas last year, and what ever happened to Bata shoes. We should all blitz the cbc and ask them when they are going to quit working as working for easy money is bad for the economy, and it was their tingod that said that. Guess it is just employees at the cwb that do stressful work. By his own admission, that means all senators should resign yesterday, as that is certainly easy money. Oh, I forgot, he said work and they don't. And remember, don't travel to Toronto as cdns get killed there.

gordonm

I believe that the cartoon was done by Arch Dale of the Winnipeg Free Press. That would probably date it in the early 1920s.

Let's hope that Western "easy money" remark will stick to Dion and the Libs like "shit" sticks to a to a blanket!
Are you listening Dave Rutherford or John Gormley!!

Tomaz says;"Nothing new under the sun"

I say; "The only good thing that ever came out of the east IS the sun".

yes odie...I know EXACTLY what you mean!And their minds are made up...'Harper from Alberta...bad'

Speaking of milk and milk cows, is this the milk that Stephane Dion is talking about? Quebec already has a disproportunate share of the industrial milk quotas across Canada. Did you ever wonder why you see Lactantia butter in stores and restaurants across the west? Have you ever seen western produced butter in Quebec? This regulation of milk quotas was begun in 1996, and for all I know may have been fair at that time, but just as the western drift of populations has made representation by population in the federal government grossly unfair to the west, and Ontario, so has it made the allocation of milk quotas unfair. Just look at the Market Sharing Quota by provinces from the Canadian Dairy Commission website:
http://www.cdc.ca/cdc/index_en.asp?caId=812&pgId=2180

Dion telling Alberta how to the manage its main export (oil) is like someone from the West telling Quebec how to manage their main export (crooked politicians).

With few exceptions, former Ontarians, British Columbians, and Quebecers here in Calgary pick up the local culture very quickly. One former Torontonian told me his neck started getting red not too long after his arrival in Alberta

Every province has moonbats. When we westerners react to Citoyen Dion's verbal flatulence by slagging entire provinces of people we allow ourselves to be sucked into playing the Liberals dirty little game.

Not the Winnipeg free Press - The Grain Growers guide of 1915. Here's a better copy of the orginal from the Glenbow archives in Calgary.

http://www.glenbow.org/exhibitions/online/libhtm/milch.htm

"Our artist has here attempted to portray the idea which the Big Interests of Eastern Canada seem to have of the proper function of the Western Provinces. The Bankers, the Railway Corporations and the Manufacturers rejoice to see a big crop in the West because it will increase their own profits, but when the farmers of the West ask for lower rates of interest, lower freight rates and Free Trade, so that they can get the full value of the crops they produce, Big Business, with the aid of the Party Politicians, always succeeds in having their demands refused."

Printed in the December 15, 1915, issue of the Grain Growers Guide.

Is Scott(beer and popcorn) Reid coaching Dion on talking points?

it was me who said it b4, and I will say it again...do not get sucked into the east vs west game....it will guarantee citoyen dion a majority...it is not east vs west, but conservatives vs blood sucking leeches....

More of the same Liberano BullSh!t, Bash Alberta's BIG BAD OIL to get the get the socialist tree hugger vote. If Dion ever becomes PM he will stop the power shift to the West just wait and see.

kingstonlad is right. Listen to what he is saying.

Also, it is not eastern as in most citizens of Ontario, ect. But it IS 'east' as in eastern Media. They have controlled Canadian politics since confederation. I am not sure who contols the Media orgs, but I have an idea who.

Blood sucking leaches they are indeed, the Alberta bashing by Stephanie Hissy Fit and his ilk shows just how desperate a situation the Lie-beral's find themselves in these days and it won't be getting any better. Wonder what their own polling is telling them? Heh.
Fortunately we have SD's Gomery Testimony to shove in his face whenever the next election occurs along with the Lie-beral's dark history of wrong doing, corruption and contempt for Canadians.

I've been working nights lately. Before I went to bed this morning I read that story at the Sun. Now it just so happens that my best friend's father gave me a photostat of that cartoon at Christmas, so I pulled it with the intent of scanning it and sending it to Kate when I got back to my desk (which is now), only to find that Kate's already got the cartoon posted. Excellent, saves me the trouble of hooking up the scanner.

By the way, the labels on the milk pails, which are not clear in Kate's scan or the Glenbow copy linked to by Coop, say: "Ottawa", "Toronto", and "Montreal". It was, as Coop says, originally published in the December 15, 1915, issue of the Grain Growers Guide.

Problem: the one sucking the tit is really Quebec and not Ontario.

Secondly Dion is the grand pooh bah for Quebec because Liberal PM's don't give a rat's arse for the ROC.

19145 to 2007 is 92 years liberals have been raping the west. Will they have a 100 yr celebration in 2015, that will be three years after the end of Kyoto. How many of you know that the kyoto accord is over and done with in 2012, and MIGHT be reconsidered. No wonder dion is in such a hurry to be pm, he only has 5 years to get those billions for credits in liberal hands. I have never read anywhere if come 2012 if all programs re kyoto will be stopped. We just hear that targets have to be met by 2012, not that the accord ends in 2012. And all they decided at the last conference was that MAYBE they will meet again to reconsider the accord. Does it make sense to spend all that money for 5 yrs, when the technology wont even exist by then. Y2Kyoto scam, but the truth is slowly getting out of the closet, and dion, ds, layton and may are scared they will be found out.

Terence Corcoran, editor of The National Post, has called the UN/Mann 'hockey stick graph' a "Big Lie".

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/financialpost/story.html?id=68ec347c-6959-40cf-aac7-795b1a9291e8

Terence is absolutely correct. And the world knows it.

Kyoto was based on the 'stick'. One would think/know that Kyoto is therefore a Big Lie also.

Dion is pushing Kyoto. What does that make him ??

What does that make other Media orgs that intentionaly choose to not report on the Big Lie ?? Liable ??

And The Weather Network had Suzuki on today. In a series of interviews promoting the Big Lie.

I assume you westerners would like to see Ontario come over to your side. I also assume that lots of people from Ontario read this site. This cartoon does nothing to help your cause. Ontarians are just like Albertans. We give far too much and get little back, including no money out of the equalization pot. So, maybe you should all try to do more to win over Ontarians instead of constantly alienating them. This cartoon lumps Ontarians with the east, most notably, Quebec. I resent, as an Ontarian, being equated with the welfare state of Quebec.

lj - Considering this is a cartoon that was put out generations ago - relax. As an Albertan, I am certainly aware that Ontario is a contributor - as are most of the commentors here.

In my mind, the cartoon did not say the "milk" was going to Ontario and Quebec, but rather to Ottawa - which is Kate's point - Dion still wants all that "milk" to go to Ottawa - and he is going to take it somehow. That is what has angered those of us in Western Canada - no matter how hard we work, Liberals will take more and more of our money - yours and mine.

Dang... the Liberals have gone and elected themselves another Chretien!

How regressive of the Liebrano$$$.

The more they "change", the more they stay the same... and get even worse...

I hope dion's dog "kyoto" bites him on his narrow little ass. It is hard to believe that another Quebec pol is all set to gut the "easy money" oil patch. That disrespectful little prick has insulted a lot of hard working people who are very tired of "same old,same old" from a corrupt lieberal. It is amazing to me to watch and....oh the excitement the castro-toady spawn of that rat faced git PET is set to throw his "crown in the ring!!!and all the lieberals are trembling with excitement. I read his little article where he muses about being "born to greatness" Spit>>>>>

oops, 1945-2007. not 19145. I must have been using dions logic or figures to come up with that one.

How to milk the Confederation of Canada; Two easy lessons:

1. Walk softly and carry the big Quebec stick.

2.The corollary: Divide and conquer.

Citizen/Citoyen Dion and his Librano$ say: Voila! C'est ca! C'est tout! Aux armes, citoyens, marchons, ...

The Liberal Party has this lesson down pat.

Globe | Quebec renews calls for climate change funding

Montreal — The Quebec government renewed its calls Saturday for federal money to fight climate change after reports emerged that the province will have difficulty meeting its Kyoto targets. ...-
jack's newswatch

According to Neil Waugh, in todays Sun, dion says Alberta will elect 8 MPs next election. That stmt alone should tell Ottawa and TO voters how out to lunch he is. Then he says we need more GroupAction. Took him a while to realize what he had said. Guess he was surprised we hicks out here know what groupaction was/is. I think it was a Freudian Slip. Did those attending the convention have any idea of what and who they elected. Mind you they didn't have much to choose from. Considering they had almost a year to make a choice, I think most liberals slept thru all the facts re any of the choices. They were still in a state of shock they lost the election and haven't woke up to this day. Dion is a disaster walking outside of Quebec, and I read he is not too popular there either. Has any media talking head, or newspaper, or asked him about his being appointed to cabinet without being elected, by JC. At least Emmerson was elected, before his appointment. I don't think many liberals or reporterettes know that fact, the way they jumped on Harper. And, he is not the only one, remember Tobin.

The "Milch" cow cartoon demonstrated how Ottawa and central bankers and industry exploited the wests productivity and political impotence by rigging the captive market monopolies for western resource wealth ( agricultural and mineral) with protectionist tarrifsand transport subsidies all which hid under the cleansing banner of "commonwelth" rationalization..this in the early 20th century.

There are other cartoons for western publications in this era that demonstrate the same thing:

http://www.lib.unb.ca/Texts/Acadiensis/2006/images/acad35_2for02_fig1.jpg

http://www.westcan.org/westcan/bull.gif

.....the "commonwealth" concepts of confederal Canada went out the window the moment big money concerns in the east realized they could make their puppets in Ottawa use this to redistribute wealth this was in the 1890s....it continues today the original intent of commonwealth assitance has continued to devolve into a corrupted socialist wealth distribution system which pays off political patronage for the party running Ottawa throug dorect taxation of the provinces to "eqialize" other provincuial budgets.

I see Dion as wanting to start up the old 1880 styles captive markets with western grain and oil again....will the west allow it this time?

Here's a clue...westerners have the longest memories of any species of Canadian.

Nothing has essentially changed except the cow poops twice as much on the east coast and folks in that local come to think of being pooped on by the Milch cow as patiotism.

"do not get sucked into the east vs west game..."

How about the "Alberta becoming a U.S. state game"? 'Cuz I could go for that.

Kingstonlad; I agree that the divide and conquer tactic is the keystone of the Frenchman's (Duel Citizinette Dion; French first, Quebec second) agenda. The blatant insults hurled at Western Canadians (in particular, Alberta) are not 'faux pas'; they are calculated and deliberate. The 'you' vs 'us' worked for the Cretian; for some reason, the Liberanos think it will work again.

I would be interested to know what people living in Quebec think about decentralization for all provinces. If Alberta were to decide to succeed; do Quebec and Ont. and the Merrytimes have the sediment of 'Don't let the door hit you on your way out', if not, why not?

I believe that the nation has matured to the point that provincial differences are reality; it is time to recognize that there is no value to trying to force one province's 'values' on other provinces.

Centralization in all social engineering forms is a dead issue. The provinces must arrange their own social and economic futures without the 'help' of Ottawa or the other provinces. Defense and international trade are the venue of Ottawa; internal trade (within the confederation) and economy and taxation is a provincial responsibility. Redistribution of wealth is a communist idea that cannot fly anywhere; taxes are a Provincial responsibility and for any arrangement to work, Ottawa must get out of the redistribution of wealth game.

For a moment, just for clarity ask yourselves: Why is Alberta subsidizing Sask? The two provinces have almost identical geographies!! Why is all of Canada subsidizing Nunavut and the Yukon? The Yukon has very few people and mineral resources galore - Nunavut wants to control the land they have claimed - let them.

The "Swiss" formula works very well in Switzerland. It can work in Canada. It is up to the people of this country to decide. The dictatorship of the E. Mountebanks is no longer an option. The warning was sounded during the last Dictatorship of the Liberanos. There is no turning back to the 'group action' thingie Frenchman Dion. The Liberano glory daze are over, even if the Frenchman Stevie were to win the election it would bring only chaos and infighting and fragmentation to our country. Probably bankruptcy. When citizens refuse to co-operate with government ; government fails. Frenchman Dion cannot force the citizens of this nation because we are not poor, uneducated, and broke. The above conditions must exist for the revolution that the grey Dion has in mind for Canada to fly.

Do not even think of voting for Mo Strong's boy if you have an iota of respect for yourself and you family.

Dion talking about easy money - What money is easier than sitting back and collecting equalization paymnets?

I say that the west should start separation talks if the Liberals get more than 20% of the vote. And we should let it be known well before the next federal election that if the east wants to keep voting libs then they can try and eek out a living without their own "milk"

I think the time has come for all of western Canada to unite and start taking control of our own destiny rather than always being at the wrong end of Quebec and Ontarios puppet strings. The energy sector is going to be giving up the ghost within the next 20 to 50 years and western Canada will become a have not area. And anyone here that thinks Eastern Canada will "help" us out is outta their mind.

I don't think that we need to separate, but the provinces definitely need to be able to use separation as a stick in order to ensure that all provinces have a say in how we live our lives.

Is this the Canada that our ancestors came to Canada for? Is this the Canada that Canadian soldiers are and have died for? To have not only a corrupt government but a corrupt bureaucracy too? Where people "feel" they are entitled to health care, education, food, homes, all on the backs of other people just because they are too lazy to work?

Time for Canadians to have a reality check and think for a second what kind of country we want to live in?

"The artistry suggests that it was drawn early in the 1900s. Nothing has changed."

I wasn't aware that Ontario lived off transfer payments from Western Canada. It seems like one of us has been entertaining a delusion.

When I heard the media bites on the QR77 following Msr. Dion's road trip, I distinctly heard a plan for NEP II. It wasn't so much what he said, as the way he said it. Of course, it would be under the guise of saving the planet, but the fact still remains. Am I the only one who heard this?

As someone who went through NEP 1, I have no intention of EVER letting anyone do another end run. If Alta/Sask/BC/Man don't separate from Canada if Dion gets in, I will.

According to Greg Weston in the London Free Press Op-Ed this morning it sounds as though journalists are even having difficulty deciphering his English.
But who knows maybe it's a trick the Libs can use to claim Dion's message wasn't interpreted correctly.
Listen closely especially when he says Albertan's make "easy money".

Jose: When this cartoon first appeared, all the banks etc were in Ontario, and they made decisions that affected the west. Farmers could not borrow money for one thing. Barriers were set up to keep prov to prov trading impossible. Tariffs were set to benefit Ont manufacturing. Quotas were set, for many products to benefit Ont. Ontario and Ottawa lived off the west for many years. Liberals have tried for years to put policies in place that will make us dependent on them, like the succeeded to do with the maritimes.
The NEP and CWB are just 2 examples, but we in the west have a different attitude, we will not let them win. We might go down once in a while, but we will never be out, except out of Canada if the voters in TO and Quebec put the libs back in power. Jose, why do you think the social credit had to introduce the so called funney money, to survive. Why do you think liberal is a bad word in Alberta. Every chance the libs get, they punish Alberta for not supporting them. Even in the rare instance we did send a liberal mp to Ottawa we still got screwed. How hard did landslide annie fight for us, she didn't.

Need we remind Msr Borat Dion that Alberta's oil industry was refused start up and development capital from Ottawa and eastern banks. Alberta's oil patch got its start from seed capital and engineering from the US. Ovwr the years Albertans regained ciontrol over their own resourses and though careful stewardship and small governments with frugal economics, have revenue surpluses from this prime industry.

Now the eastern grasshopper wants the western ant to keep him warm and fed....strained charity to say the least.

The US buys our oil for US dollars. They buy 80% of all our products with US dollars. We also import a majority of the products in our stores. Now, dion wants to buy hot air for millions of cdn dollars. He then want to export hot air to other countries to improve our profits and lifestyle. So I guess he wants us to believe that all the hot air spouted over the years by liberals has a value. Has he not paid attention to the fact europe is rethinking kyoto because of the job losses, industries shutting down, and the realization that it is affecting the average persons lifestyle. Europe will not renew kyoto after 2012. No countries that have not signed on, will not even consider a new accord. Dion will soon be the only wannabe leader supporting kyoto and by doing so, if elected will make Bangladesh look like a great economy compared to ours.
We have to quit referring to credits and call them what they are, hot air, and quit using the term ROC and replace it with Great/est Part of Canada.

It's at time like this that I'm glad that folks like WL Mackenzie Redux are on my side. Well said.

I think that we've only just started to see the arrogance from the eastern politicians that will target everything from the hats we wear to the work we do.

Pat

Lots of complaits re the so called leak about the coming budget and fiscal imbalance solutions. Just maybe Harper has taken note of feeling in the west and is putting in policies to get the West out of Canada. But, in order to get a majority he needs seats in Que. If he gets one, maybe he will finally be able to address all the issues we complain about. If he gets another minority, albeit a larger one, he can tell Que, I tried to please you and you rejected us, so we will cancel all the fiscal imbalance pymts we promised, I will follow the liberal agenda and break a promise. However, our government will never cater to Que again, please get out of my country.

From Greg Westin's article "Slip of the Tongue" in today's Ottawa Sun

http://www.ottawasun.com/News/Columnists/Weston_Greg/2007/01/16/3387704.html

....
Dion’s interesting choice of words to describe the Alberta oil boom now fuelling the national economy evidently struck it raw in the West.

One of our favourite Internet blogs, called Small Dead Animals, featured a cartoon apparently penned many decades ago, showing a cow straddling Canada and the caption: “Fed in the West, milked in the East, evacuates (sic) on the Maritimes.”
.....

SDA RULES!

If anyone from Ontario thinks that you all think like us here in Alberta, go to www.garth.ca and read some of the posts on his weblog (ie "On the wrong side"). I've deduced that there are plenty of Ontario posters who don't think like us and would like a piece of the pie from Alberta's good fortune, without working for it. One has to wonder whose side Garth is on and whose side some of his posters are on.

Why is it so bad for a politician from Quebec to suggest that he wants to ensure that riches of Alberta are still around in 100 years? Doesn't anyone remember what happened to the Atlantic Cod and how over fishing has killed the entire industry? Isn't any one concerned that eventually, all the oil and oil production will come to an end? What's good for Alberta is good for the rest of Canada, but what if that runs out? If the oil production was removed from Alberta, what would happen to that economy?

Also, I think what he meant by 'easy money', he was refering to the high wages paid by the oil companies. I'm quite sure that working the oil fields is a very hard job to and they deserve every penny they get.

Finally, the ironic thing is - the issues that Albertans have against the federal government are the same issues that Quebekers have against the federal government.

BTW - here is a history of that cartoon: http://www.glenbow.org/exhibitions/online/libhtm/milch.htm

The last time Garth Turner made sense was when he was campaigning like a small "C" conservative for a seat in the Mulroney era.
Nothing much since.

Help me people!Someone says that Quebecs and Albertas issues are the same with the Federal govt!How does taking billions of dollars from Canada by Quebec equal giving billions of dollars to Quebec from Alberta via the Federal govt?

Jose
It's almost 8 PM out here in Campbell River.
I doubt that you will see this and I'm only sorry I didn't have a chance to read your post much earlier.
I could have enlightened you. Given you an earful so to speak.
The "Miclh Cow" has little if anything to do with transfer payments. They came long after this cartoon was drawn.
Transfer payments come from taxes collected by Ottawa and handed back to the provinces. Albertans pay far more than anyone else and that is a different beef if you'll pardon a bad unintended pun.
No, this goes far beyond transfer paynents and your post suggests you live in Ontario so I doubt that you would understand how we in the west feel about being a "Milch Cow".
I am a transplanted Albertan and I guess you had to be there. Or have to be there now.
The latest "Milch Cow" is the oil patch. And if Dion is elected, he will "milch" that cow until it goes dry if he gets a chance. But I think Albertans will be too smart for that and leave.Then Dion will have to find his milch cow closer to home.

Mr wannabe priminster Dion, born,saised and educated in Canada-- yet can not speak proper english--wants to keep one foot in Canada and one in France this speaks volumes to me

This man is either content writing off Western Canada for Liberal support or unbelievably ill-informed about our history and issues. I tend to believe the latter - judging by the fact that he so willingly voices such comments.

This from some paranoid prairie lunatic. What an indictment.

Funny how Harper is "suddenly" one of the guys holding the teat now.