December 29, 2006

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Good riddance;

'Kingsley should have been fired years ago,” says NCC vice president Gerry Nicholls. “He was not a disinterested bureaucrat. Kingsley had an ideological axe to grind and he used his powers to go after groups he didn't like.'

This column by Colby Cosh "Does America need a Foreign Legion?" might make for compelling argument - if it weren't undermined by the facts. (link fixed) Update: more factual rebuttal in the comments.

"The AP and E&P have teamed up to perpetuate a lie."

Senator Joe Lieberman has returned from Iraq;

[L]et there be no doubt: If Iraq descends into full-scale civil war, it will be a tremendous battlefield victory for al-Qaeda and Iran. Iraq is the central front in the global and regional war against Islamic extremism.

Aw, shucks, Jason. :)

Use this thread for your news tips and blog posts.

Posted by Kate at December 29, 2006 1:05 PM

CBCpravda - sympathetic picture.

if Saddam wants sympathy he can look in the dictionary-- its somewhere between $hit and syphilis

Posted by: cal2 at December 29, 2006 1:11 PM

2006 personal income tax packages are out. The rate for the lowest income range is 15.25% (surprise!) and the basic personal exemption has been raised above last year's. So after all the fuss and whinging, the difference between last year's Liberal promise and this year's actual forms is $68.85 before all other deductions (eg. if you paid maximum into CPP and EI and are employed, the difference reduces to $61.62).

Posted by: lrC at December 29, 2006 1:20 PM

Colby Cosh has a column in the Post about an -American Foreign Legion-.

I gotta say he gets so many things about the USA wrong that I wonder why he would devote a full column to the subject.

Here he opines on Ben Franklin,

"Even then, he and his colleagues understood that creating a Roman-style republic meant setting out on the Roman road to empire -- and, inevitably, to imperial decline."

It is news to me that the Founding Fathers were creating a republic that was Roman-style. I would have opined it was more Greek-style (is that a word?) in its design and intent, but the outcome of the creation is still, of course, uniquely American. As for the American Imperial Empire, where the heck is it? Is it in Guam or Puerto Rico? And where are the riches and treasures taken from the American Imperial Empire? IMHO, American ingenuity is responsible for the countrys wealth and the USA has shown time and again throughtout its history that it can operate as a full economy pretty well all on its own if and when it needs to.

As for President George Washington Cosh says this,
"Men like Washington, who advised his successors against "foreign entanglements," tried to install the political version of anti-virus software. But today little energy remains behind U.S. resistance to the imperial temptation."

But here is what Washington actually said (and did) when US interests were threatened by The Barbary Pirates (taken from the Historical Overview of the Federalist Navy, 1787-1801-First Naval Legislation under the Constitution).

Dec 3, 1793- President Washington spoke in general terms of the nation's need to prepare to defend itself: "If we desire to avoid insult, we must be able to repel it; if we desire to secure peace..., it must be known, that we are at all times ready for War." A few days later, news reached Philadelphia of the truce between Portugal and Algiers, opening the way for Barbary corsairs to cruise the Atlantic and imperil trade with much of Europe. On 16 December the President forwarded to Congress documents on the unsatisfactory negotiations with the Barbary Powers. In response to these events, the House of Representatives resolved on 2 January 1794 "that a naval force adequate to the protection of the commerce of the United States, against the Algerine corsairs, ought to be provided," and appointed a committee to prepare a report on what kind of naval force would be necessary to deal with the menace.

And then there is this statement from Cosh,

"Iraq has reminded Americans at great cost that wars cannot be won when no definition of victory exists."

IIRC, President Bush was quite clear on this subject. He said the USA will have achieved victory when it has defeated and dismantled the Iraqi Baathist Party. That goal is very close to being fully achieved.

I highly doubt there will be a draft in the USA anytime soon (unless the Dems take full control) or that there will EVER be an -American Foreign Legion-.

I wager Cosh understands Canada and Canadians quite well and IMO he should stick to writing about those things he really knows.

Posted by: concrete at December 29, 2006 1:22 PM

No hyperlink for "the facts"

Posted by: Doug at December 29, 2006 1:53 PM

So what does Senator Lieberman know anyhow? He didn't talk to Capt Jamil Hussein to get the real story did he?
Seriously, I'd believe the good senator before I'd listen to most of the Democratic cacaus or any Lieberal/Dipper anytime.

When confronted with facts you can count on AP and E&P to blame the headline writers(who must not work for them?) before they admit any mistakes or manipulation.

Posted by: Texas Canuck at December 29, 2006 1:55 PM

Lieberman is the only real sensible liberal left in Washington...are there others? Hmmm...

Posted by: Richard at December 29, 2006 2:16 PM

Thanks, Doug. Fixed now.

Posted by: Kate at December 29, 2006 2:19 PM

Sorry to be a pest, close the italics tag. I'm reading the links. Thanks.

Posted by: Doug at December 29, 2006 2:22 PM

I'm getting a kick out of all the spinning on Kingsley's resignation. For crying out loud, can a guy not just resign? It's not like PMSH could fire him.

Posted by: Candace at December 29, 2006 2:23 PM

Gerry Nichols is a big cry baby, still sulking since he lost his fight against the election gag law in the Supreme Court.

On a different note, Lieberman has it all wrong. Things are going great in Iraq...any other interpretation is just a conspiracy by the defeatist, terrorist loving, evil left wing media.

Posted by: lberia at December 29, 2006 2:24 PM

On another note, I'm quite certain that the Marines will take recruits from foreign nationals. Doesn't anyone out there know of Canadians that have joined the Marines? Someone should point this out to Mr. Bland Cheese.

Posted by: Doug at December 29, 2006 2:25 PM

Stephen Harper is in the running for LGF's Orianna Fallaci Anti-Idiotarian of the Year award, be sure to vote:

Posted by: Ed Minchau at December 29, 2006 2:38 PM

"Doesn't anyone out there know of Canadians that have joined the Marines?"

Yes, my son. Fought in Iraq, clearing of Falluja (spelling?) as well.
I believe the latter has cost him mentally.

Posted by: multirec at December 29, 2006 2:46 PM

In the Grope and Flail comments on Kingsleys resignation, the tiny tot Liberals are blaming PMSH for 'firing' him. Apparently these commentators never noticed that Kingsley, God of Election Liberal Canada, never did one thing to punish or reprimand the Liberal Party for its breaking of election laws in the Quebec Adscam fiasco. I emailed Kingsley asking him why they weren't doing anything about barring the crooked Liberal Party of QueCanada from running in the last federal election. He still did nothing.
I am still amazed that his office, that ran over everybody else's finances with a fine tooth comb, could not notice the enormous discrepancy between the money the Liberal spent on elections and the reported money they collected in Quebec.
I would have fired his a$$ out the door a long time ago because he definitely was not a independent administrator of the election laws.
BTW here's a $1000 bonus, vote Liberal.

Posted by: rockyt at December 29, 2006 3:04 PM

My Iraqi friend, whose been living here in Vancouver for 2 years now, has a rather curious attitutde toward all of this. On one hand, being a Kurd, she has lost enough relatives at the hands of Saddam to be outraged, yet explains her ambivalence as years of knowing nothing else; being able to walk around freely sans burkha, etc.; having enough to get by while those in the military thrived. She does laugh however, at the west's determination to rout al-Qaeda/the Taliban, both of which she insists are fronts for Syria and Iran. This is well known to most Iraqis who watch in amusement as we chase our tails. She has me convinced that the Iraqis just might be on to something.

Posted by: Iron Lady at December 29, 2006 4:03 PM

During the last election, there were reports of all sorts of electoral hijinks occurring in the Desnethe-Missinippi riding in northern Saskatchewan. Claims of raffles for TVs if you voted Liberal, claims of missing ballots suddenly turning up; irregularities on the voters' list. Even the NDP candidate said that things looked fishy. Lo and behold an investigation by Elections Canada turned up nothing, and a new Liberal MP Gary Merasty squeaked in, ousting Conservative MP Jeremy Harrison. Kingsley's "investigation" turned up no wrong-doing. Hmmmmmm. The new Electoral Officer of Canada (whomever that may be) should make sure this riding is very closely watched next time.

Posted by: Soccermom at December 29, 2006 4:39 PM

rockyt, you are aware that as the chief election officer, Kingsley was not permitted to vote, I hope? :-)

Posted by: Eugene at December 29, 2006 4:54 PM

I would like to do a little research, but need your help.

During the last federal election somebody had the brilliant idea of transposing the contribution data at elections canaduh into an easy to use excel spreadsheet. It revealed a lot about how the Lieberals used grants to organizations who in return remitted portions of the grants back to the Lieberal party. Great fun was had by all.

Does anybody have the URL for that site? I had bookmarked it, but due to a computer crash have lost it.

I intend to run the names of the order of canaduh through the software. I just have a hunch.

Posted by: cascadian at December 29, 2006 5:00 PM

Re: Colby Cosh

It strikes me that Colby's entire article is based on an understanding of history that from my perspective is errant. US history has been dominated by isolationist, rather than imperialist tendencies. Unless attacked the US has historically been late to the party. Only when attacked could Roosevelt get the country to enter WWII.

Posted by: DocZ at December 29, 2006 5:06 PM

there is good reason to exit the electoral chief, he was too slow.

perhaps he wasnt about to allow redistribution of the seats to BC and Alberta in a timely matter.

currently with a population greater than Quebec the combined seats of Alberta and BC are 17% lower. This was based on the census of a few years ago. Its likely more skewed yet.

And we cant blame time for this - Nfld is over represented by a factor of 54% compared to BC.This disparity is well over 20 years old.

Posted by: cal2 at December 29, 2006 5:11 PM

Funny thing about Iraq being the "central front in the war against Islamic extremism" is that it had a secular government until until the invasion. Funny piece of BS that is.

Posted by: Jose at December 29, 2006 6:21 PM

"I would have opined it was more Greek-style (is that a word?)"

The word you are looking for is Hellenistic.

Posted by: Jose at December 29, 2006 6:29 PM

Slowly but surely, our PM is getting rid of all the liberal free loaders in high places. Was anything ever done about all the illegal names in landslide annies riding. And the libs talk about Bush stealing an election.

Posted by: mary T. at December 29, 2006 6:33 PM

For general interest, check out "The Fallacy Files". It's a great blog and covers the major fallacies of logic we're exposed to daily, esp in the MSM. Next time you want to throttle someone because they're not making sense (but you can't quite put a finger on why), use it to bring your blood pressure down a notch, and put that calm, knowing smile on your face.

Posted by: DrD at December 29, 2006 6:33 PM

"Unless attacked the US has historically been late to the party. Only when attacked could Roosevelt get the country to enter WWII."

It didn't help that a lot of influential people were sympathetic to the Nazis (Lindenberg and Taft namely).

The US has an isolationist streak but they're hardly dominated by that philosphy. How many wars have the US been involved in? Now compare that to the number of times they've been attacked.

Posted by: Jose at December 29, 2006 6:36 PM


The Marines do indeed take recruits from foreign nationals. I knew a guy, name was Frank Crabb. He joined in 1964. Three tours of duty. Killed in 1966. His name is on the memorial in Washington. I've looked it up.

Posted by: Andy at December 29, 2006 7:44 PM

Well done Kate,you not only have an excellent blogsite,you have become the token conservative on Cherniak's very partisan list. Cheers and a happy new year.

Posted by: wallyj at December 29, 2006 7:57 PM

Regarding MR kingsley,the gomery inquiry established that millions of dollars were funnelled to the liberals to fund thier campaigns. I wrote to him and also was one of the callers on cbc who suggested that illegally funded campaigns should be declared null and void.I did not recieve any response,therefore I have deduced that only campaigns that produce conservative winners are open for investigation.

Posted by: wallyj at December 29, 2006 8:07 PM

they are vanishing, VANISHING in front of us.

the pictures, available because of the invention of photography, that compress the time line and show the alarming disappearing act the glaciers are committing.

for whatever reason.

maybe it is a natural cycle, but the extreme right wing denies the very possibility.

and as I said before, THIS TIME there's 6 billion + of us pathetic humanoids around about to be affected by it all.

read it and weep

Glaciers are dying - sciencetech - Glaciers are dying
The sound of water running throughout African mountains is the latest sign that the glaciers are turning into trickles

Charles Hanley
Toronto Star

NARO MORU, Kenya–Rivers of ice at the Equator – foretold in the second century, found in the 19th – are returning to the realm of lore and fading photographs.

From 1.6-kilometre-high Naro Moru, villagers have watched year by year as the great glaciers of Mount Kenya, glinting in the equatorial sun high above them, have retreated into shrunken white stains on the rocky shoulders of the 5,150-metre peak.

Climbing up, "you can hear the water running down beneath Diamond and Darwin," mountain guide Paul Nditiru said, speaking of two of 10 surviving glaciers.

Some 320 kilometres due south, the storied snows of Mount Kilimanjaro, the tropical glaciers first seen by disbelieving Europeans in 1848, are vanishing. And to the west, in the heart of equatorial Africa, the ice caps are shrinking fast atop Uganda's Rwenzoris – the "Mountains of the Moon" imagined by ancient Greeks as the source of the Nile River.

The total loss of ice masses ringing Africa's three highest peaks, projected by scientists to happen sometime in the next two to five decades, fits a global pattern playing out in South America's Andes Mountains, in Europe's Alps, in the Himalayas and beyond.

Almost every one of more than 300 large glaciers studied worldwide is in retreat, international glaciologists reported in October in the journal Geophysical Research Letters. This is "essentially a response to post-1970 global warming," they said.

Even such strong evidence may not sway every climate skeptic. Some say it's lower humidity, not higher temperatures, that is depleting Kilimanjaro's snows, for example.

Stefan Hastenrath of the University of Wisconsin, who has climbed, poked, photographed and measured East Africa's glaciers for four decades, says what's happening is complex and needs more study. But global warming plays a role, he says.

"The onset of glacier recession in East Africa has causes different from other equatorial regions. It's a complicated sort of affair," he said by telephone from Madison. But "that is not something to be taken as an argument against the global warming notions."

In Kampala, Uganda's capital, veteran meteorologist Abushen Majugu agreed. "There's generally been a constant rise in temperatures. To some degree, the reduction of the glaciers must be connected to warming," he said.

It was 10 years ago, on the 100th anniversary of the Italian first expedition to the Rwenzoris, that Majugu and colleagues were struck by an Italian gift to Uganda: photographs from 1896 showing extensive glaciers atop the spectacular, remote, nearly five-kilometre-high mountains.

In a scientific paper this May, Majugu and British and Ugandan co-authors reported that this ice, which covered 6.5 square kilometres a century ago, has diminished to about 1.3 square kilometres today.

The glaciers are "expected to disappear within the next two decades," they concluded.

I win !!! grand slam home run this time !!! LOL !!!

Posted by: bollocks at December 29, 2006 8:12 PM

Just one more comment. How long will it be before gay couples start proclaiming that they practice Hellenistic love? It does have a lyrical ring to it. Moreso than "cornholing my buddy".

Posted by: wallyj at December 29, 2006 8:13 PM

It's quite amusing to read that Kingsley is/was a Liberal hack, even though he was appointed when the Mulroney Conservatives were in power. I suppose that means Brian Mulroney was really a closet Liberal.

Posted by: lberia at December 29, 2006 8:17 PM

Didn't Kingsley's son Justin Kingsley work in the PMO for Paul Martin? A little nepotism going on here? One might think that is a bit much for a so-called "non-partisan" government employee. Maybe a few "heads up" for Martin from the Kingsley clan here and there just to keep it all in the family? Preserve the boy's cushy job?

It has the appearance of something less than above board don't you think?

Posted by: Maria at December 29, 2006 8:37 PM

Kingsley's a Lie-beral hack, always has been. Should have been thrown out with the trash a long time ago.

Posted by: Bruce Randall at December 29, 2006 8:59 PM

For once Iberia was almost right, Mulroney was/is an out of the closet Power Corp. hack.

Posted by: Bruce Randall at December 29, 2006 9:01 PM

Bollocks,Oh my,you have hit it out of the park. Now let's go for another one. This is a fact. Glaciers have been receding since the ICE AGE.They will continue to recede until the next ICE AGE. Then they will get bigger.If the religious zealots don't kill us by then I hope our descendants can discuss this further. To quote Johnny Rotten,who is at least as credible as the toronto star,"NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS".

Posted by: wallyj at December 29, 2006 9:40 PM

Best comment I've heard in some time, was from a tour guide on an Alaskan cruise when a passenger became hysterical at the sight of chunks of ice falling of a glacier. We must stop this economy she shreiked, the glacier is melting, whereupon the guide deadpanned, "They always do that between ice ages M'am".

Posted by: Grithater at December 29, 2006 9:59 PM

Well Bruce, then you must be thrilled that Mulroney and his minions are still hanging around and providing advice to the current government.

Posted by: lberia at December 29, 2006 10:39 PM

Winnipeg artists have another winner!today's Free Press has article on display at U.of W that constitutes the new"art".A lovely wall-hanging made out of menstrual blood on patches of fabric,to "highlight violence against women"..all donated by 15 anon.women,in memory of the 15 killed in the Lepine "massacre".Wonder if this was funded in any way,as was the dead bunny artiste,Diane Thorneycroft.YUCK ! I'll take a Robert Bateman over that any day!

Posted by: Sammy at December 29, 2006 10:59 PM

No I'm not thrilled at all, it's a big mistake for any members of the current government to be seen in his company. There's good reason why he became known as Lyin' Brian.

Posted by: Bruce Randall at December 29, 2006 11:00 PM

When Lying Brian became leader of the PCs, the ECONOMIST from London observed that Mulroney was as close to a Pierre Trudeau as the PCs could get. You have to be incredibly unobservant not to notice that blood is thicker than political party names when it comes to Quebecers. Quebec politicians change parties more often than Britney changes her panties. No wait...

Posted by: rockyt at December 29, 2006 11:06 PM

Britney wears panties?

Posted by: Scamp at December 29, 2006 11:26 PM

Glaciers in California are growing. Apparently, they didn't get the memo.

Posted by: Kate at December 30, 2006 1:21 AM

Harper was scathing in criticism of elections boss who's now resigning

OTTAWA (CP) - Prime Minister Stephen Harper has been scathing in his criticism over the years of the now-resigning head of Elections Canada.

To be precise, he has called Jean-Pierre Kingsley "dangerous" and "heavy-handed" and described Elections Canada as out-of-control "jackasses."

Harper has also participated in court cases against Canada's top electoral watchdog. ...-

L. Beria still spouting lies and half-truths?

Beria said: "Mulroney Conservatives" . That was the Progressive Conservative Party of Canada. That party is as dead as the ex-dictator of Iraq and the ex-dictator of the Soviet Union, Stalin. Lavrenty Beria was the ex-executioner for Stalin; one of many. All dead; not dead enough.

Posted by: maz2 at December 30, 2006 6:39 AM

The war for civilization
Toronto Sun ^ | 2006-12-30 | Salim Mansur

Those who may share U.S. President George Bush's anguish in these recurrent winters of our discontent are not many.

It is easy to describe Bush as a beleaguered president in a war that a majority of Americans now question as the November mid-term election demonstrated. They want an end to the war in Iraq without having to admit defeat.

The agony of Bush is compounded by his knowledge of the enemy.

That and the constraints placed, in a free society within the context of our integrated world, on his office and its ability to wage the sort of war necessary to defeat the enemy.

U.S. presidents Lincoln, Roosevelt and Truman were also reviled in their times and during their respective winters of discontent.

But their circumstances in defeating the enemies of freedom were much different, and less onerous than those Bush has to contend with.

The Confederates were slave-holders, bent on destroying the American Union, rather than give freedom to their slaves.

Despite doubts about Lincoln during the worst months of the long Civil War, the enemy was clearly visible and victory was precisely defined as saving the Union and crushing the Confederacy.

Similarly, Roosevelt and Truman fought the fascist and militarist powers of Germany and Japan who were on a rampage across the world.

Even in the darkest moments of World War II their political opponents could not, dared not, publicly doubt the objective of securing the unconditional surrender of these enemies.

But the enemy Bush is contending with -- while a majority of Americans and America's allies pretend it doesn't exist -- is not merely an alliance of states or a mix of ideologies or a cause that the United States must fight and defeat.


The current enemy is the outcrop of a broken civilization of the past, spewing forth from its rotting bowels an endless horde of militants and fellow-travellers, carrying with them the most atavistic ideas about faith and politics that modern civilization, which Bush represents, hesitates to name for what it is.

We have to go back to the declining years of the Roman Empire to find a parallel with our times. Rome had spread civilization far and wide around the Mediterranean basin, but over time it became besieged by barbarians from outside its frontiers and then from within.

Civilization is more supple, hence fragile, than the iron and steel from which it is built. It might be likened to a garden, delicately laid out and carefully maintained.

When ignored or unattended, weeds destroy what human artifice builds with much labour. ...-

(*atavistic: reverting to or suggesting the characteristics of a remote ancestor or primitive type.

Posted by: maz2 at December 30, 2006 7:18 AM

Kingsley and the Canadian Wheat Board; and, more.

Translate: Kingsley, the Liberal$-Librano$, and their corrupt-criminal monopoly, pyramid scheme, aka the CWB. ...-

Glad He's Gone

Gerry Nicholls, National Post
Published: Saturday, December 30, 2006

The Liberals are trying to turn Chief Electoral Officer Jean-Pierre Kingsley's sudden resignation into some kind of political scandal. But the only true scandal here is that Kingsley wasn't fired years ago. ...

For instance, during the 2004 federal election, the Canadian Wheat Board (CWB) -- a government agency -- ran newspaper ads extolling the virtues of the board's monopoly. The ad featured pictures of two bulls. One bull was labelled, "This is the CWB"; the second (this one castrated) was labelled, "This is the CWB in an open market for wheat and barley." The bottom of the ad said, "No one has the right to tell you which one is right for your herd."

Doesn't that seem like an election ad? After all, the Liberals had a position on the Wheat Board monopoly. They supported it. And the Conservatives opposed it.

You would think Kingsley -- who enforced the gag law with the fanatical zeal of a Spanish Inquisitor when it came to the NCC -- would have jumped on this. He didn't.

Even after some anti-monopoly farmers lodged a complaint, Elections Canada refused to press charges against the Wheat Board....-

Posted by: maz2 at December 30, 2006 7:40 AM

Whatever his reason, J-P Kingsley's resignation is good news.

Posted by: Liz J at December 30, 2006 9:09 AM

Thank God Kingsley is gone. Now maybe Canada can move forward with a new Electoral Boundaries formula based on one person, one vote and Elections Canada can stop hiding of its problems and fix them, for example 105% voter registration in Cape Breton.

It is time Canada moved forward with a modern electoral democracy based on equality and honesty.

Posted by: Ian at December 30, 2006 9:51 AM

Apparently, Prime Minister Harper "has called Jean-Pierre Kingsley 'dangerous' and 'heavy-handed' and described Elections Canada as out-of-control 'jackasses.'"

Good on ya' PMSH! Say it like it is!!

And good riddance to (the) King(sley) who sat on his throne like a Grand High Poobah, forgetful of his duties to the citizens of the realm.

In 2007: less demagoguery and more democracy, which has got to be good for the majority of Canadians.

Posted by: 'been around the block at December 30, 2006 10:22 AM

So in the past week and a bit, we've seen the head of the wheat board, the head of Elections Canada, and the head of the Iraqi Baathist party all taken down.

You know, I guess I do have a little hope for this world...

Posted by: Yukon Gold at December 30, 2006 10:23 AM

try this formula on the current population of Canada , maybe the elections Canada types dont have a mathematical background or their lack of math skills showed they must exit.

there is no way you can get to the current distribution. and note how the "take" provinces on the equalization payment formula have a great advantage in seat distribution compared to the "give" provinces. BC, Alberta, Ontario seriously under represented, PEI, Nfld, and the Territories over represented.

the worth of a seat in BC. 120ooo
the worth of a seat in AB 111ooo
the worth of a seat in ON 118ooo
the cost of a seat in PQ 101ooo
the cost of a seat in PEI 34ooo
the cost of a seat in NF 72ooo
the cost of a seat in YT 31ooo
the cost of a seat in NWT 42ooo
the cost of a seat in NV 29ooo

these are average riding sizes in the screwed up electoral system. costs and worths are based on which side of the equalization formula you are on, if you were a federal liberal minded type you would reverse the designation.

Posted by: cal2 at December 30, 2006 11:04 AM

Cascadian: I don't think it has exactly what you wanted but here's a list all .xls files at

Posted by: canuckjack at December 30, 2006 11:17 AM

Islam: hang the devil; stone the devil.
Islam: a religion of paganism.

Saddam Hussein: Tales Of The Tyrant - 13 hours ago
What does Saddam Hussein see in himself that no one else in the world seems to see? The answer is perhaps best revealed by the intimate details of the Iraqi leader's daily life. ...-

Hajj pilgrims 'stone the devil'

Millions of Muslim pilgrims performing the Hajj in Saudi Arabia have thrown stones at three pillars representing the devil, as part of a ritual....-

Posted by: maz2 at December 30, 2006 12:13 PM


Which "lies and half-truths" would those be? Are you suggesting that the previous Progressive Conservative party has nothing to do with the current one? Or that Mulroney has no influence on the current party?

Just because you don't like something doesn't make it a lie.

Posted by: lberia at December 30, 2006 1:01 PM

Mulroney has not the sway that Lie-beria suggests, nor does the former PC Party. Mulroney, like all Power Corp. hacks, cannot keep his meddling ways from spilling forth. PD and Power Corp.'s mission is to try to control the gubmint by proxy. One only has to look at the list of power Corp. allumni, starting with Uncle Mo.

Posted by: Bruce Randall at December 30, 2006 1:31 PM

Story in todays Lethbride Herald, that the cpr and cn must pay within 30 days, some 4 million dollars to a special fund, because they exceeded their cap on grain freight rates. Wouldn't it be great if this 4M was reinbursed to the farmers, who they overcharged on freight rates.
So, Harper can appoint a new RCMP commissioner, head of the CBC, head of Elections Canada, and a new CWB head is in place.
The opposition can't bitch about his appointments, as they said the person he wanted to be in charge of appointments was not qualified. The man martin wanted was also voted against by the opposition, but he named him anyway. According to year end stories, the opposition figured Harper would appoint the guy, who was willing to work for 1.00/year, like martin did. Didn't happen. Harpers response was, if this guy isn't qualified, no one will meet the ndps guidelines, so the position is still vacant.
Starting to get stories in the wests papers re the ignorance of western issues by coward dion.

Posted by: mary T. at December 30, 2006 1:32 PM

Mulroney doesn't have much sway, eh? Harper said once that Mulroney played a “private” but “indispensable” role as a friend and political confidant. Also, Harper's transition team after the election victory was led by Derek Burney, who was once Mulroney's Chief of Staff, and included Marjory LeBreton and Hugh Segal -- both key figures from the Mulroney days.

Oh, and Peter Mackay was dating Sofie Desmarais, so ot appears that the influence of Power Corp. is never that far way.

Posted by: lberia at December 30, 2006 2:43 PM

Iberia, you seem to like swinging the bat - you are asking Bruce Rendell to 'explain' the actions of the former PC party of Canada but you are not defending the Liberano/Dipper/Blochead supporters in the same disgraceful times.

As a Conservative, of the Vandersam ilk, I ripped up my membership in the PC Party when Mulroney (with other PC bigshots) back-stabbed Eric Nielson (the man who chained in PET by catching him in his web of lies everyday); I joined The Reform Party. The Reform Party had everything right but the 'slogan' "The West wants in" ....why we would have wanted 'in' at that time makes a person shake his/her head!

Anyway the wind from the west blew into Rottawa and did some serious barn cleaning, the dumbed down citizens woke up a bit and now we have a Honorable Prime Minister and a New Conservative Party IN government. I am very proud of the New Conservative government that I helped get elected.

Now you defend the lying thieving Liberals, the cowardly lack luster Dippers (NDP) the traitors, the Bloc, or the silly greenies - whoever you voted for in the last election. Are you going to defend your gang with the same zeal as you attack? Can you defend Mr. Clark (not Joe who, I forget the guy's first name), the former premier of BC, Lorn Culvert in his incompetence, Roy Romanov's fanaticism? Martin's musical talent - the guitar recital was really something to see!!! - John Cretian's robberies and lies - did you believe that that scrap of paper he waved around in the HC was a receipt for a multi million dollar business transaction? Boob Ray and his destruction of Ontario? Tony Penicut (a Yukon Dipper) built a very expensive curling rink in Elsa - after he ran the mining company there out of business.

I hope you pen is ready Iberia. It is your turn to take the field.

Posted by: Jema54 at December 30, 2006 4:05 PM

Hate to agree with Stalin's chief executioner, but all evidence suggests government of Canada is Of, For, and By, the Power Corp.

Wonder where we, the peasants, fit in?

Posted by: dmorris at December 30, 2006 4:11 PM


My discussion with Bruce was about Mulroney and Power Corps influence on the current Conservative party. Not an attack, but more of a wake up call to those deluded enough to believe that this country is actually run by the politicians for us. The politicians run this country for the corporate elite. Why do you think it's so easy for people like Stronach and Emerson to swich sides? I'll give you a hint...because it doesn't really matter. Liberal or Conservative, both are beholden to corporate interests. Two sides of the same coin.

I'm not defending the Liberals (crooked), Bloc (hypocritical traitors) or the NDP (who have forgotten about the poor and working class in order to cater to wacko fringe groups). But don't believe for one second that "Canada's New Government" will be any different than any other government we've had in the past 139 years. If anything, judging by what Harper has said and written in the past (in his NCC days), the potential results for the average person will worse if he gets a majority next time around. His plans for "economic integration" etc., will essentially turn Canada into a northern maquiladora zone for the US, diluting our sovereignty for the sake of corporate interests.

I can understand the wealthy supporting the Cons. If you are currently a millionaire, you will be better off under them. If you are not, and you still support the Cons with their false promises of a return to the "good old days" (before "the left" ruined things), you are merely being a useful idiot. For example, look at the false hope they offered the pro-life/anti-SSM supporters. These issues will never be re-opened, but promising that they would certainly got them a few more votes in the last election. And betraying these people was easy, since they won't vote for the other parties anyway. It was a page out of the Liberal election promises book ("we'll tear up the FTA/ get rid of the GST...").

dmorris is right: we're just peasants, so be careful who you vote for or what you wish for. And don't be too proud just yet...I was proud of Mulroney when I voted for him in 1984.

Posted by: lberia at December 30, 2006 8:29 PM

Iberia; I guess you have no hope for the country.

My ancestors came here long before there was an infrastructure and they came here cash strapped. Canada offered the displaced Highlanders land for free if they could manage to live on that land for 5 years. Highlanders are tough - they stayed and eventually prospered.

What I am saying is that Private Property Rights are the most important rights of a nation of Free citizens. The Liberano/Dipper outfits left that Right out of the Turdo charter (pun intended). It (the Charter) is not worth the paper it is printed on!! The P C's were in a leadership thingie when Charter discussions were ongoing. Eric Nielson fought for your freedom and mine (property rights) in the HC with the same aggression as he fought Nazis in WWII. Eric (not Mulroney or Clark) is the reason immigrants cannot camp in your living room while they are looking for their own quarters. Thank him. Turdo quivered in his bell bottomed pants every time Eric dive bombed him - it was really funny to watch; sorry you missed it. Eric squeaked limited property rights through the house on a day that a budget leak left Turdo and his minions short a few M.P.s. I watched the whole show and I stood up and cheered then sat down with tears running down my face. I had seen a very sad end for my country in my minds eye, Eric gave us all hope, Brian betrayed us, Cret/Matin robbed us and brought us down - Ralph Kline saved us from collapsing into a Communist heap - Stephen Harper has brought us trust and hope. It has been a 'long and winding road'!

Iberia, I think you are trying to sow the seeds of Liberano double speak here. Why are you afraid of lowly criminals who sold oil for cash to Saddam Hussein? They fear us!! They fear Stephen Harper, Stockwell Day, Mr. big mouth Baird, Dianne Ablonzy,.....want to know why? Because the Conservatives are going to put Property Rights back in our Constitution. Governments cannot control people who own property. Governments can only gain control over people with economic sanctions - like Hitler and/ or Military threats.

Soldiers are reluctant to fire on their own people - especially if the people are armed!

All is good if you can wrap your head around some positive thought, Iberia, you have swallowed the 'victim' mindset of many Canadians (planted there by MSM, Liberanos and Dippers) - but with good government (The New Conservative government) people are slowly waking up to the fact that they have rights AND responsibilities and they don't have to suffer Liars, thieves, reprobates and fools in their elected politicians. They(politicians) ask - we (the people) grant.

Get on the Right wagon or get out of the way.

Posted by: Jema54 at December 31, 2006 1:36 AM

Hey jema54:

Don't mistake my tone - I'm very positive about life in general, and even though it may seem that I am politically cynical, I consider myself a political realist.

I don't expect property rights to come up any time soon (an informative overview here:, and it's not something that can be easily done anyway. Nor do I expect freer gun control laws. And don't be surprised if Harper endorses the Kyoto Accord, especially if he wants to win the next election.

White cats or black cats, it's all the same if you're one of the mice.

Posted by: lberia at December 31, 2006 3:34 AM

"China is not bound by the Kyoto protocol, the international agreement to limit emissions of climate-changing gases."

China chokes on a coal-fired boom

A GREAT coal rush is under way across China on a scale not seen anywhere since the 19th century.

Its consequences have been detected half a world away in toxic clouds so big that they can seen from space, drifting across the Pacific to California laden with microscopic particles of chemicals that cause cancer and diseases of the heart and lung.

Nonetheless, the Chinese plan to build no fewer than 500 new coal-fired power stations, adding to some 2,000, most of them unmodernised, that spew smoke, carbon dioxide and sulphur dioxide into the atmosphere.

It is the political fallout of that decision that is likely to challenge the foundations on which Britain and other developed nations have built their climate change policy — even as there are signs that ordinary Chinese citizens are at last rebelling against lives spent in poisonous conditions.

Cloaked in swirling mists of soot particles and smoke, cities such as China’s “coal capital” of Datong are entering the coldest period of winter in which demand for power and heating produces the worst pollution.

It is often darkness at noon in Datong, just 160 miles west of Beijing, where vehicles drive in daytime with their headlights on to grope through the miasma.

One of the four filthiest towns in China, it stands at the heart of the nation’s coal belt in Shanxi province, a region that mines more coal every year than Britain, Russia and Germany combined.

Cancer rates are soaring, child health is a time bomb and the population, many of whom are heavy cigarette smokers, are paying the price for China’s breakneck rush to riches and industrialisation — an estimated 400,000 premature deaths nationwide because of pollution every year. ...-

Posted by: maz2 at December 31, 2006 6:11 AM

Jema54, Iberia's a communist who would be much happier licking Putin's boots.

Posted by: Bruce Randall at December 31, 2006 1:45 PM

That's ok, Bruce. I forgive you.

Posted by: lberia at December 31, 2006 4:19 PM

Perhaps you'd be in better company if you moved to France to live amongst the cheese eating surrender monkeys.

Posted by: Bruce Randall at December 31, 2006 5:34 PM


It's too bad you prefer to make really witty comments rather than have a discussion. I guess that's just your way of escaping from reality.

Posted by: lberia at December 31, 2006 10:41 PM

BTW, Bruce and Jema54, Mulroney is representing Canada at Pres. Ford's funeral. Happy New Year.

Posted by: lberia at January 1, 2007 1:37 AM

Mulroney and Wilson attend Ford's funeral therefor they both must exert tremendous influence over the New Conservative government, not. Lets see, Chretien or Martin or Layton would be O.K. with you? Idiot.

Posted by: Bruce Randall at January 1, 2007 12:02 PM

Of course, your right...Muroney was just a random selection and he has no influence whatsoever. (That must be good kool-aid.)

And personally I think that someone from our CURRENT government would be a better representative, hmmm?

Posted by: lberia at January 1, 2007 12:29 PM

Mulroney also attended Reagan's funeral in 2004, must mean Mulroney had influence over Chretien and the Lie-beral's as well.

Posted by: Bruce Randall at January 1, 2007 2:50 PM

My mistake, Mulroney would have had influence over Smaul Fartin' in 2004. One common thread though, all of them Power Corp. hacks.

Posted by: Bruce Randall at January 1, 2007 2:54 PM

Yup, Power Corp. Have a nice day, Bruce.

Posted by: lberia at January 1, 2007 3:46 PM