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December 19, 2006

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A discussion on TIME"s Canadian Newsmaker Of The Year.

Citoyen Dion Debate - a return volley.

Further evidence that Barbara Walters is an idiot. Never mind the question "Where does she find these people?". Why doesn't she lose them?

Curiouser and curiouser.

Kofi Annan's mystery apartment.

Another busy day ahead, so this will be all for awhile.

Posted by Kate at December 19, 2006 7:42 AM
Comments

The Roosevelt Island home is part of an estate of low-rent state-regulated housing. For years, the Annans saved considerable sums by occupying an apartment meant to help financially strapped low- to moderate-income New York families.
Are Olivia and Jack looking for a new place?

Posted by: andycanuck at December 19, 2006 10:13 AM

When you're in the political fight of your life, what sort of collateral, besides your immortal soul that is... do you pledge for a chilly $350,000.00?

Posted by: neo at December 19, 2006 10:13 AM

RE: Arar.
I am guessing that the USA will never take him off the watch list unless he appears at the Embassy in person and applies for a waiver or a visa of some sort. And that application would involve interviews and submitting proof regarding his residencies, whereabouts and employment, as well as providing personal references who will verify and criminal background checks. Also the following two paragraphs from the Stars report directly contradict each other.

-The U.S. ambassador would not say why the U.S. government refuses to divulge whatever information it has on Arar – purportedly "from a variety of sources" – to Canadian law enforcement or security officials, despite his luncheon speech that argued the two countries had to co-operate on border security.

Wilkins did acknowledge the litigation Arar is pursuing in the United States means government officials cannot speak freely about the case.-

Posted by: concrete at December 19, 2006 10:30 AM

W3.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2006-12-03-1.html

Really good commentary on the fall of the Roman Empire ... and the potential fall of the Western Empire as per Mark Steyn's America Alone.

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at December 19, 2006 10:30 AM

A couple of questions and a comment.

Was Taliban Jack really Kofi's real estate agent or did he scam the taxpayers all by himself?

Is a subsidized apartment in NY actually $2,000?

In reading the comments on Prime Minister Harper's Newsmaker of the Year, I am amazed at the venomous comments by the 'progressives'. Similar tone is set over at Fark on the same story. It seems left-wing types tend to resort to name calling and personal attacks. Their definition of debate and discussion must be different than mine.

Posted by: Texas Canuck at December 19, 2006 10:44 AM

Good to see Ezra keeping the 'Citoyen Dion' story alive. I can't wait to see what he digs up re Dion's Parti Quebecois past. Too bad for the Liberals that they took so much glee in bringing up Harper's 'firewall' letter, also from another past life. Geez, I wonder if the Conservative war room is saving up a real juicy Dion quote to spring on him at an awkward time ? Say in a media scrum in the last days of the next election campaign ?

Posted by: Calgary Junkie at December 19, 2006 11:04 AM

Regarding "The View"'s views--I can hardly believe these brain dead women have a job on television and are allowed to express their uninformed opinions on a daily basis. I know..it's a coffee talk show but it's an insult to intelligent people everywhere. At least Star Jones is gone--she was the most nauseating of the bunch.

By the by, congratulations to youse all for being Time's Person of the Year--I knew you could do it. ;)


Posted by: him at December 19, 2006 11:14 AM

Looks like the Godwin Number of that CTV thread is 2. Real mature.

Posted by: doolz at December 19, 2006 11:14 AM

NDP looks to regroup with climate change
cnews


NDP socialists stuff the words "global warming" down the memory hole... glug...glug...glug...

"Global warming" killed by Taliban Jack.

Posted by: maz2 at December 19, 2006 11:23 AM

The French Citizen surrender monkey. And how to kick the legs out from under his stool:

1. Champion of the environment and kyoto!

Even though during the 12 year Liberal regime, which he belonged to, smog emissions went up 34.6%? Even though, as environment minister for two years, he did nothing while greenhouse gases continued to increase? Even though he hasn't explained kyoto to the public; misled the public on the outright robbery of carbon trading; and hasn't explained how Canada can possibly meet the targets? Fat chance.

2. A renewed Liberal party!

Run by one of the crime bosses of the old corrupt Liberal party? By a citizen of France from Quebec, who can't speak the language of 80% of the population? Who thinks he can win the west? Right.

3. A social conscience for Canada, while creating a better economy!

An oxymoron of a plank, led by a French citizen, surrender monkey, socialist; who is a cloistered academic, having no relation to or comprehension of the average Canadian, or Bay Street for that matter; who has a hate on for our biggest trading partner; who has the charisma of a stick of wood; who is characterized in Quebec political cartoons as a rat and a mouse; and who wears a little boy knap sack to work? Rub a lamp.

Posted by: irwin daisy at December 19, 2006 11:35 AM

Before the next election I think the liberals, especially those in the west, are going to wish they had picked someone else. All the losers in the leadership race will be cabinet members should coward dion win. Are you ready for Joe V, as minister of piggy banks and childrens programs. Ken D as minister of sports would be ok. How about Scott B as minister of finance. And people are complaining about Ed Stelmach putting all losers and supporters in his cabinet.
Or maybe Joe will be appointed to the elections canada board, in charge of voting lists for the deceased. Then, maybe he will call on Hedy Fry to be minister of culture, with an emphasis on burning crosses. Please, voters in toronto, montreal and vancouver, have pity on our country. Vote for ideas, action, promises kept, instead of out of spite, for more theft from our programs and brown paper bags passed to crooks, pretending to be politicians.

Posted by: maryT at December 19, 2006 11:40 AM

From which side of the "what date rape feels like", is that Nazi equivacator talking from?

Posted by: richfisherman at December 19, 2006 11:45 AM

...with all the negative muck going around, here's a nice story:

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/judi121806.htm

Make-a-wish takes teenage boy to see Dawg.

Posted by: tomax7 at December 19, 2006 12:06 PM

Citoyen Dion, citizen of France, where French citizen, Dr. Guillotine, perfected the guillotine, frets and gargles about toppling the Conservative government of Canada, while the Islamic Taliban decapitates other Muslims. Politics by other means, mais oui. C'est la vie, shrugs Dion.
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Montreal Gazette:

"Dion had expressed concern last week that the NATO mission in Afghanistan is not improving the economic well-being of ordinary Afghans.

He reiterated that concern yesterday,

saying the mission is not progressing as it should."

"Yet it's still no reason to topple the government, he said. "We can't give up on the mission until we have deployed everything to ensure it works."
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Meanwhile: The Islamic sword decapitates; swish...26 times...26 heads roll...-

Canwest | Taliban execute 26 male Afghans

PANJWAII DISTRICT, Afghanistan - As many as 26

local Afghan men were executed by the Taliban

yesterday and their headless bodies put on public display

around a local village, in a morbid attempt to dissuade other civilians here from assisting NATO and Afghan national security forces operating in the area, coalition sources have told CanWest News Service.

Posted by: maz2 at December 19, 2006 12:17 PM

DION TO ADD TO HIS LIBERAL 'DREAM TEAM'
Stephane Dion is expected to add to his Liberal dream team today by appointing senior shadow cabinet jobs to some of his former leadership rivals.
(national newswatch)

List submitted, partial, short list:

Deputy, already: STOPIGGY.
Finance: Paul Martin, Jr.
Hezbollah Minister: Denis Coderre.
Revenue: Giuseppe da Kid Volpe.
Defence and Goal: Dryden.
Women's Issues: Brisone.
AdScam liaison: Alfonso Gagliano.
Clouds and Visions, Power Corp.: Rae Bob.

Dat's it. Tout fini. L'etat c'est, Moi.

Comte de Dion, Legion d'Horriblemus, Socialist.

Posted by: maz2 at December 19, 2006 12:28 PM

behar reminds me of bette midler. no offense to ms midler.

baba wawa is the #1 goofball on televisionland.

she is trying to surround herself with bigger goofballs to deflect attention from herself.

Posted by: bollocks at December 19, 2006 1:05 PM

Barbara Walters, in spite of her youthful appearance from so many face lifts and tucks, is well past her best before date. One thing sure she can't take another lift, she can't move her mouth now. She could make a stab as a ventriloquist if she's still hungry for the limelight.

The politically active celebs are not doing anyone any favors, certainly not themselves.
Most of them are just plain full of themselves, Jane Fonda is a good example of past activism. Who the hell cares what they think?

Posted by: Liz J at December 19, 2006 1:37 PM

Just had to tell everyone that a just released report by the Fraser Institute has compared Canada's heath care with the rest of the world and it isn't that hot. What a surprise! Also the CBC story on it starts out with 3 paragraphs of counter-points by Friends of Medicare before even getting to the meat of the actual report.

First of all, can't anyone see that the status quo just won't cut it anymore (and hasn't for a long time)? Secondly, anyone dare to say that the CBC didn't put a negative spin on the story?

The report is available at the Fraser Institute website in pdf format. I'm going back to read the rest of the 102 page report.

Posted by: Texas Canuck at December 19, 2006 1:45 PM

French Citizen Dion has appointed American professor Ignatieff as his deputy in the so-called Liberal Party of 'Canada.'

He's calling it the "Dream Team."

Two cloistered academics who have no relation to, nor comprehension of the average Canadian, or Bay Street are a dream team?

I wonder how the hawk and the mouse will work this out.

Posted by: irwin daisy at December 19, 2006 1:59 PM

check out http://warrenkinsella.com/musings.htm for fun with these questions. Enjoy!

* Best TV/radio journalist
* Worst TV/radio journalist
* Best print reporter
* Worst print reporter
* Best columnist/pundit
* Worst columnist/pundit
* Best blog
* Worst blog
* Best news organization
* Worst news organization
* Best news story
* Worst news story
* Best quote of the year
* Worst quote of the year
* Most memorable media stunt
* Most memorable headline
* Biggest story of 2006
* What will be the biggest story of 2007

Posted by: aj in calgary at December 19, 2006 2:01 PM

LIBERALS, Please think again. Pull troops? Ease pressure and export of terrorists to our house will increase by the hundred-fold.

Crossfire War - TEHRAN WATCH - Western Europe Theatre: Tehran - Baghdad/Madrid - London - Paris - Berlin; European Intelligence Services Compile List of 200 Terror Suspects Trained in Iraq.

Night Watch: MADRID - AKI reports that the Spanish daily El Pais has said that based on an intelligence dossier compiled by European intelligence services, there are 200 terror suspects that are "potentially dangerous" in Europe.

The article is based on the investigations of the intelligence services of Spain, France, Great Britain and Germany. It even states some of the extremists have fought in Iraq against the occupation and were trained in camps there. [AKI]

Twenty of the suspects are known to be in Spain and are being investigated. The El Pais said Spain is regarded as a "hothouse" for terrorist recruitment. The suspects are all from North Africa, Morocco and Algeria. The extremists are seen as the al-Qaeda's - Tehran's Trojan Horse in Europe.
http://tinyurl.com/yk3hgb

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Posted by: TG at December 19, 2006 2:24 PM

Stephane Dijon's $350,000 benefactor....one of the infamous unaccountable "Foundations"?

A princely donation of $400.000.00 towards the Canadian Diocese


It is with deep spiritual joy and gratitude we announce that Mr. Stephanos Mamdouh, a non- Armenian friend of the Armenian Diocese in Canada, surprised the audience of the 23rd. Diocesan Assembly with a large donation to the Diocese. His family has recently established the Stephanos Foundation and he announced that the first recipient of the INTERNATIONAL STEPHANOS FOUNDATION, will be directed to the Diocese of the Armenian Church in Canada.

Mr. Mamdouh spoke personally and highly about the Primate of the Armenian Church in Canada and the friendship they have established during the past two years. Serpazan Galstanian thanked Mr. Mamdouh for his generosity and expressed the gratitude of the Diocesan Council, Clergy and faithful for this princely donation. Mr. Jack Stepanian, Chairman of the Diocesan council echoed the sentiments of appreciation and gratitude on behalf of everyone.

May the Almighty God grant the Stephanos family good health and abundant blessings.

Posted by: eastern paul at December 19, 2006 2:37 PM

With reference to Levant discussing Dion's French citizenship, over at a hard-left extremist forum - http://www.sooeys.com/viewtopic.php?t=1706&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=105
A poster named 'Devil Woman' comments:

'For a guy who leads tours for journalists through Israel (paid for by the Canada Israel Committee) and presumably supports every Jewish person's right of return, Levant has some noive.'

In other words: 'The nerve of that Jew to comment on someone else's citizenship.'


Posted by: Tommy at December 19, 2006 2:40 PM

pierrerehov.com/media_ctblog.htm#continue

An interesting interview with a documentary film maker, who just completed a film on the mentality of the Muslim suicide killer and their family. Definitely worth reading, maybe even imperative.

Here's part:

What insights did you gain from making this film? What do you know that other experts do not know?

I came to the conclusion that we are facing a neurosis at the level of an entire civilization. Most neuroses have in common a dramatic event, generally linked to an unacceptable sexual behavior. In this case, we are talking of kids living all their lives in pure frustration, with no opportunity to experience sex, love, tenderness or even understanding from the opposite sex. The separation between men and women in Islam is absolute. So is contempt toward women, who are totally dominated by men. This leads to a situation of pure anxiety, in which normal behavior is not possible. It is no coincidence that suicide killers are mostly young men dominated subconsciously by an overwhelming libido that they not only cannot satisfy but are afraid of, as if it is the work of the devil. Since Islam describes heaven as a place where everything on earth will finally be allowed, and promises 72 virgins to those frustrated kids, killing others and killing themselves to reach this redemption becomes their only solution.

What was it like to interview would-be suicide bombers, their families and survivors of suicide bombings?

It was a fascinating and a terrifying experience. You are dealing with seemingly normal people with very nice manners who have their own logic, which to a certain extent can make sense since they are so convinced that what they say is true. It is like dealing with pure craziness, like interviewing people in an asylum, since what they say, is for them, the absolute truth. I hear a mother saying "Thank God, my son is dead." Her son had became a shaheed, a martyr, which for her was a greater source of pride than if he had became an engineer, a doctor or a winner of the Nobel Prize. This system of values works completely backwards since their interpretation of Islam worships death much more than life. You are facing people whose only dream, only achievement is to fulfill what they believe to be their destiny, namely to be a shaheed or the family of a shaheed. They don't see the innocent being killed, they only see the impure that they have to destroy.

How can we put an end to the madness of suicide bombings and terrorism in general?

Stop being politically correct and stop believing that this culture is a victim of ours. Radical Islamism today is nothing but a new form of Nazism. Nobody was trying to justify or excuse Hitler in the 1930s. We had to defeat him in order to make peace one day with the German people.

Posted by: irwin daisy at December 19, 2006 3:04 PM

I think this comment by Dion is indicative of Dion's narcissism. In referring to Ignatieff, he said:

"The race is over. Now I will work with him, but I'm the leader at the end of the day," Dion said."

I'm claiming that Dion, like Chretien, is narcissistic in a dysfunctional way; he showed that in his reaction to questions about his dual citizenship, when he immediately moved himself into the role of victim, for being a 'dutiful son'. This ignored that having his mother's citizenship had nothing to do with any duty to her, but, his aspirations to leadership of Canada required him to clarify his duty to Canada.

And I repeat, his abrogation of three themes; namely, the economy, the environment and social justice to himself and the Liberal Party, are the height of arrogance. Why? Because they are universal themes of all governments. Is he implying that Harper has no involvement in these areas?

A comment to Irwin Daisy - I don't think that the Islamic separation of men and women is the 'root cause' of their fascism and suicidal crisis. After all, if that were true, this behaviour would have been endemic centuries ago. And, the separation of men and women, with men privileged and women kept in the household, has been a basic social format in all pastoral nomadic economies, in all agricultural economies, and in early industrialism - in Europe and all over the world.

I think what we are seeing is indeed a dysfunctional society, and I think that the root cause is that their ideology, Islam, which is primarily a sociopolitical system rather than a religion, set itself up as 'fixed', as immune to critique and change. And, that ideology is functional only, only, in a tribal socioeconomic and political system. It works in such a no-change, no-growth system.

But, the economies of the ME have moved out of the old tribal pastoral nomadic and peasant agriculture, into industrialism. BUT, the sociopolitical ideology has been unable to change. As a tribal system, it set up one tribe as dominant and rendered powerless the peoples of the other tribes. The economy, fueled by oil, enabled this tribal dominance to operate as a military dictatorship, and that meant that the people could not rebel.

What ought to have happened, is the collapse of tribalism and the mov't into a civic political mode, that treats all citizens as equal. Instead, what was retained, was a one-tribe dominance, with the majority of the population kept out of any political, economic, authoritative roles. This is the root cause of Islamic fascism - a population completely trapped within tribalism, with 'no place to go'. No power over the economy, no power over the gov't.
And, an awareness, via modern communication, that this wasn't a productive mode of life.
And, a massive move't off the land and into the cities - to meaningless and powerless jobs.

This dysfunctionality enabled the focus on Islam as a death cult. Islam, in itself, glorifies death rather than life. It glorifies the group and the non-existence of the individual. It glorifies fighting the infidel. It also has attributes of peace and self-analysis - but, in a dysfunctional socioeconomic realm - these are abandoned and the population moves into a psychotic fascism.

The solution can only be to enable them to move out of tribalism and into a civic democratic lifestyle.

Posted by: ET at December 19, 2006 3:24 PM

Hello Jack, any comments on your reconstruction plan??

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=414cf19d-732c-442f-a4ab-32c030bfe3c3

Posted by: JCL at December 19, 2006 3:25 PM

Nuclear North Korea lights candles to stave off dark
al-Reuters via WP ^ | Dec. 18, 2006 | Yoo Choonsik
PYONGYANG (Reuters) - Banners in the North Korean capital proclaim a bright future for the world's newest nuclear power, but after sunset pedestrians make their way in near darkness because there is not enough power for streetlamps.
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Living off rats to survive in Zimbabwe


CNN) -- Twelve-year-old Beatrice returns from the fields with small animals she's caught for dinner. Her mother, Elizabeth, prepares the meat and cooks it on a grill made of three stones supporting a wood fire. It's just enough food, she says, to feed her starving family of six. Tonight, they dine on rats. "Look what we've been reduced to eating?" she said. "How can my children eat rats in a country that used to export food? ...-
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/browse

The natural end result of socialism-communism:

North Korea, Zimbabwe: rats, darkness: Death.

Posted by: maz2 at December 19, 2006 4:09 PM

ET,

The opinions I posted are the filmmakers'. From reading the entire interview, I don't get the idea that he is entirely blaming it on a dysfunctional male/female relationship. But you'd have to read the interview. I found it enlightening.

The modern day suicide bomber is enabled as the result of explosives. They, of course, didn't have bombs several centuries ago. But they did have suicide troops called the hashashiyyin, which I'm sure you've heard of. These assassins were motivated similarily (separation from women, 72 black eyed virgins) with the addition of hashish. In an attempt to give them a taste of what they will receive in heaven for their martyrdom, they were knocked out and woke up drugged in a veritable paradise, surrounded by virgins. Once they passed out from wine, the vision was removed.

I believe this is just part of an overall mind controlling ideology, which is Islam.

"it also has attributes of peace..." But only in dar el Islam, or amongst other Muslims.

I'd like to be as optimistic as you are about democracy as the solution. I'd agree, that this has worked many times before, ie Japan. However, with Islam, history has proven something else entirely. This is an ideology, where adherents are convinced they are doing the bidding of a diety. And the unforgiveable sin is disbelief.

Posted by: irwin daisy at December 19, 2006 4:33 PM

ET says “Islam, which is primarily a sociopolitical system rather than a religion, set itself up as 'fixed', as immune to critique and change. And, that ideology is functional only, only, in a tribal socioeconomic and political system. It works in such a no-change, no-growth system.”

Islam is artificially propped up by oil. Socialism as practiced in Quebec is artificially propped up by “equalization payments”. Without the propping up, Islam and socialism would just die out.

But Liberals have used “equalization” to bribe both Quebec and the ROC. Bribing Quebec is easy to understand but that the ROC has fallen for perpetual regional equalization is harder to understand. I guess the ROC was convinced if the bribes stopped then something bad would happen to them. Like the Islamofascists, the Liberals and their MSM propaganda machine created “immunity for us to criticize and change” anything, if we did, we were deemed to be “un-Canadian" a form of aposty to the Liberal religion. But now even McGuinty, a Liberal in Ontario no less, is saying ..enough, Ontario needs money for its own needs and infrastructure. So does the other propper-upper ... Alberta.

This all comes back to Dion and his duel citizenship which is symbolic of the socialists’ transnational movement. That all cultures are equal. If Dion gives up on that idea, he is then on a slippery slope with equalization payments. It's not a big leap to then say that if all cultures aren't equal , then all regions aren't.

Regions aren't equal in an ecological sense so how and why would they be equal in an economic sense? That is impossible .

I think what scares the utopian Liberals is that we may be seeing the end of regional “welfare as we know it”. If regions in Canada had to stand on their own then Quebecers and Newfies would start to move to Fort McMurray … heh .. isn’t that what they’re starting to do? Could it be that the “victims” of equalization see the bribes for the tribes are coming to an end?

Posted by: nomdenet at December 19, 2006 4:40 PM

ET: "The solution can only be to enable them to move out of tribalism and into a civic democratic lifestyle."

Unfortunately, as Macluhan pointed out, that civic democratic lifestyle is based on years of a printing press culture that the Muslim world largely ignored. They have moved from one oral/aural culture (the tribe) to another (TV culture) that is infinitely more intense. The Al-Jazeera's of the world reinforce their hatred of the West by juxtaposing images of Western humiliation (e.g. World Trade Center) with images of Muslim jubilation, in a manner eerily reminiscent of Orwell's "Two Minute Hate".

Literate Western man types out emotionless prose in papers and blogs, and a thousand opinions fly; aural Muslim man chants and prays en masse, where no deviation from the litany can be permitted. In the madrassas in which young Muslims are schooled, much of the school day is spent chanting and memorizing the Koran. This creates a crushing conformity, with none of the diversity or clash of ideas we accept in the West as vital to a culture's progress. Yes, the West is chaotic, but we accept that as the price paid for our movement forward.

Now, when a young Muslim, with Islam so deeply implanted through daily repetition (there is, from Islam's point of view, a pragmatic reason for demanding five prayers a day) sees a Western world of wealth and splendour, led by Christian and Jewish "infidels", compared to the relative poverty of all but a few Muslims, the easiest way to rationalize the dichotomy is to think the evil West stole Islam's birthright (oil), and the West will continue to oppress Islam to keep oil cheap. (This, of course, ignores the fact that the West was more advanced than Islamic countries in the early 1800's, years before the internal combustion engine was developed.)

This naturally develops into a hatred of Western ways, and as always been the case with young men who have no useful employment, that develops into violence. This will be no easy cycle to break, and certainly it won't happen in the short time frame that Western democracies demand.

Posted by: KevinB at December 19, 2006 4:48 PM

Read ET's responses to comments from people criticizing Harper on the CTV discussion board on Time' Newsmaker of the Year. Brilliant as usual in demolishing their unsubstantiated opinions.

Posted by: David Hand at December 19, 2006 5:07 PM

"This naturally develops into a hatred of Western ways..." Well that and the fact that we're Kaffr, in dar al-Harb.

I agree with a lot of what you say, KevinB.

The 'Magnificent 19", the Toronto 17 and the London bombers, grew up in the west, or at least spent a great deal of time in the west. They had the full benefit of western education, democracy, liberty and luxury. To no avail.

The 9/11 crew drank, did drugs, went to see strippers and experienced every type of decadence, right up to getting on the planes. However, all sins were forgiven once they performed the greatest task that Allah commands of the faithful. In giving their lives to kill infidels, they obtained a free pass to heaven for themselves and their families.

Obviously, education, liberty and democracy didn't change a thing.

The filmmaker (that I cited before), believes that the difference between a fanatic and a moderate is that the fanatic believes that the world will be dar el Islam in his lifetime. The moderate believes the same, but not in his lifetime. That's why they are more accepting of others, more or less - or 'moderate.' However, he goes on to say that every successful terrorist attack converts another 20 million moderates into fanatics.

Posted by: irwin daisy at December 19, 2006 5:24 PM

When it comes to evidence of the Babwa Wawtas bunch and their lack of intelligence or class no has to go looking for it.....you don't even have to suffer through the TV program..you'll get in the news.

The depths of stupidity that those women find for themselves is insulting and makes a person wonder who is watching that show enough to keep them in advertisers and on the air.

I predict the show will soon be gone...if only the women on it would go quietly with it!

Posted by: OMMAG at December 19, 2006 5:28 PM

Very nice, nomdenet. I think it's a matter of responsibility for one's choices.

For example, Quebec's socialist lifestyle, which includes really cheap daycare for all, low university tuition, unionized workplaces, etc cannot be supported by its own tax base. It requires substantial financial input from the ROC, such as Ontario and Alberta. My question is - why should the taxpayers fund the choices, the expensive choices, made by one province -when those same choices are deemed too expensive for their own home provinces?

Again - Why should the Ontario and Alberta taxpayer fund the socialist lifestyle chosen by Quebec - when Quebecers themselves cannot afford to support this lifestyle and when it is also not available to the Ontario and Alberta taxpayers???

The regions in Canada have to economically stand on their own. Yes, basic services can be provided to all by all. BUT, to support a lifestyle that is only available on ONE region - and expect the other taxpayers to pay for that lifestyle - heck -talk about screwing the taxpayer...That is what we have set up in Canada. That's unfair. It's undemocratic too.

If a region doesn't have the ecological base and the demographic base to support a large population, then it is wrong to artificially prop up the economy by inserting externally funded makework projects - as is done in the Maritimes and Quebec. Allow the regions to develop and self-organize their own economic base, and develop and maintain a population level that is not artificial.

Posted by: ET at December 19, 2006 6:52 PM

kevinb - very nice comparison between the literate and oral cultures. I'm not a fan of McLuhan; can't stand him, actually, but the oral/literate theme was studied long before McLuhan (Walter Ong).

Yes, and no. In some oral cultures, the oral text is open to variation and change because it depends on the 'singer of tales' for its varied interpretation. In other oral cultures - especially when the text becomes sealed as 'religious dogma' - then it is almost impossible to change the text. In some literate cultures, the text is also impossible to change.

But I don't think that the problem is merely the dependency on maintaining an oral ideology. I think the problem is political authority. Who has the authority to define and control the wealth of the economy? All the people? Or just one small tribe? The refusal to move to a socioeconomic and political mode that enriched and empowered all the people of the country, is, I think, the source of Islamic fascism.

By the way - it is interesting that with this Islamic insistence against individual interpretation and thought which is found in the Koran - the result is that there are NO scientific innovations from the Islamic world. Ever.

Oil? They had to and still have to, hire engineers and technologists from the west to get it out of the ground. And design and build the cars and planes that use that oil.

Posted by: ET at December 19, 2006 7:03 PM

CBCpravda "all liberal, all the time"


http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2006/12/19/dion-platform.html

Posted by: cal2 at December 19, 2006 7:04 PM

Is Canadian Liberal Graham a Muslim?

Graham and the Muslims use the same smear tactic: You are Nazis.


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Muslim Council of Britain Head Compares UK to Nazi Germany

The head of the Islamic radical front group calling itself the Muslim Council of Britain, Muhammed Abdul Bari, says that Britain is well on the way to becoming just like Nazi Germany: Ministers compared to Nazis over Islam stigma.

A senior Muslim invoked Hitler’s 1930s Nazi regime while attacking the Government over its treatment of British Muslims. ...-
LGF
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Liberal Graham compares Tories to Nazi propagandists. (ctv)

Posted by: maz2 at December 19, 2006 7:09 PM

ET asks why should Ontario and Alberta fund the socialist life style of Quebec?

Because most people aren’t aware of it. The Liberal MSM won’t discuss it. Ironically even most Quebecers have been brainwashed by their political class that Confederation is actually costing them not subsidizing them

Quebecers can’t comprehend even if they know about their $120 billion in provincial debt. Debt which is de facto a deferred tax on future generations. As soon a young mobile educated people in Quebec figure that out they’ll leave, why wait around and pay enormous taxes for previous generations’ greed and stupidity.

This also leads into Flaherty’s call for “net” fiscal debt of zero by 2020. The incompetent MSM can’t get their utopian minds around this but what it will do is flush out all the debt of the 3 levels of government. That’s’ bad news for those who think the Chrétien /Martin Liberals saved us fiscally. What it did was hide the items at the Provincial levels and at the municipalities. Toronto is now running a $200 million deficit. Approximately $ 6 billion a year leaves the Toronto taxpayers pocket and does not come back to the City. Where does it go? As soon as Torortonians figure that out, no more defaulting to Liberals at the Ballot box.

BTW there is good news with Flaherty’s “net zero” campaign ; it will show Canada’s assets in pension funds are in relatively good shape compared to socialist Europe ( read Mark Steyn for those demographics) and also compared to aging populations like Japan. This will be a good advertisement for Canada to be a good place to invest . . . once we get the “equalization” regional welfare addiction dealt with.

Overall, I’m optimistic as long as we de-centralize into what makes sense ecologically and regionally and historically and culturally. For example we should have very different CO2 targets for the ecology of hydro in Quebec versus Alberta’s fossil fuels .

Posted by: nomdenet at December 19, 2006 7:38 PM

It's interesting what is going on with Dion and the Liberals.

I think the Liberal Backroom Boys are faced with a dilemma - unexpected. No-one expected Dion to win - and his win was engineered by himself and Kennedy. Not by the Liberal Boys.

But, there are problems. Dion can barely speak English, the language of over 80% of our country. Only Canadians could be made to feel that it is 'bigoted' to reject someone who cannot speak their language - but - his English is so bad, that enough Canadians might, just might, get up the backbone to reject him.

His French citizenship is a problem, and his attempt to turn that reality into irrelevance by painting himself as a victim of people who reject multiculturalism, and further, into a victim of people who want him to reject his mother - was manipulative but not that ineffective.

And, he's barely known outside of Quebec.

The answer, I think, via the BackRoom Boys, has been to submerge Dion within a Team - who are known to Canadians and who, heh heh, speak English. So, Dion is talking about his Dream Team (???) and giving everyone who lost the Liberal nomination, some key role in, not the government, but the election campaign.

Interesting. This team is not part of the government but the election campaign. They are there for the upfront Images and Propaganda. The BackRoom Boys must realize that Dion cannot win the election only 'as himself'. He has to be submerged within a Group that is presentable and marketable. Because he isn't.

Part of their problem, might emerge with Dion's ego - which is large and prickly. He can't put up with any hint, any whisper that He is not The Boss. He keeps reminding us that he is just that.

And, I wonder what the BackRoom Boys will do with the debates? Can Dion survive an English language debate? Will they try to cancel the debates? Heh.

And so far, we see, as usual, no policies from the Liberals. Part of this problem is that they have been in power so long, they have moved out of making or thinking about policies; their only focus was on that Power. And, their tactics were not to provide policies, but to bribe and manipulate their way to power. Effectively, they are doing the exact same thing now - they are having to repaint Dion by merging him with a group of which he is not a member. He is NOT an anglophone - and merging him with such a group - well, that's interesting.

It's also interesting to see that they are having to redefine the nature of leadership. Rather than its being located within one individual (Chretien, Martin, Harper), it's being located within a Team. The Dream Team. Again, the problem is Dion's ego. And, the fact that neither the delegates nor the electorate voted for this Dream Team.

Posted by: ET at December 19, 2006 7:38 PM

Ignatieff tapped as Liberal deputy leader
"We will have a dream team
to offer to Canadians," Dion said as he made the announcement in the city of Quebec Monday.
"In this dream team,
my dream was to ...[dream?]
(cbc dreamworld)

Everly Bros. said it first, Stephane, maudit. Are you stealing copyright, er left?

ALL I HAVE TO DO IS DREAM (1958) Dream, dream dream dream, dream, dream dream dream When I want you in my arms, when I want you and all Moi has to do, is dream, dream, dream ...-

Posted by: maz2 at December 19, 2006 7:56 PM

I think, nomdenet, that it is vital to educate the Canadian public who still assume that Chretien and Martin 'managed the debt' and 'balanced the budget'. We don't realize that they balanced the budget by, as you say, sloughing off responsibilities on to the taxpayer's municipal and provincial taxes.

Toronto is massively in debt and yet, 6 billion a year of Toronto taxes goes out to Ottawa. To pay for what - Quebec's socialist lifestyle?
As you say, most Quebecers don't realize this as well; they've been brainwashed to believe that the only reason they need financial input from Ottawa is because they must pay federal taxes. They feel that if they kept all their federal taxes, then, 'all would be well'. They simply don't realize that all their provincial and federal tax base, together, don't fund their chosen high-cost socialist lifestyle. And - why should the taxpayers of Ontario and Alberta fund Quebec's choices? Why?

And yes- we must acknowledge the different realities of this vast country. Alberta's CO2 and pollution requirements should be different from Quebec's.

Back to my musings about How the BackRoom Liberals are Marketing Dion. They are having Others define him on CTV, CBC. Not Dion, but Others who are telling us ' Oh, he's a great guy; he really knows his stuff; he's really smart; he's really definite; he's blah blah". Why?

Because none of this is self-evident from any interactions with Dion himself? In fact, direct interactions with Dion are rather disastrous.

So, we are being manipulated by propaganda - which is telling us what to think about Dion - telling us that what we ourselves see and hear from Dion himself- must be rejected. Because, these others, speaking in clear English - are the ones to inform us of What He's Really Like.

They first tell us that they know him; have known him for years. And..then..comes all the praise and glowing accolades. They can't let us find that out from Dion himself. Because it isn't there.

Fascinating to see how one can colour code and paint a fake portrait of someone; how one can take clay and make a puppet - and tell us that this puppet is the reality.

Posted by: ET at December 19, 2006 8:00 PM

who will get beheaded for this one

http://www.toonedin.com/movies/WhiteTrashXmas.html

Posted by: cal2 at December 19, 2006 8:11 PM

... much of the school day is spent chanting and memorizing the Koran.

To be technically correct, much of the school day is spent memorizing the Koran phonetically. As Robert Spencer writes, the Koran is written in an ancient form of Arabic. Most Muslims can't read it in its original form, so they memorize the sounds. He quotes a guy who says his ambition is to one day understand the words he's been saying.

... the easiest way to rationalize the dichotomy is to think the evil West stole Islam's birthright (oil)

Actually, Islamic fundamentalists use Islam's low standing as proof that Muslims aren't sufficiently pious, and therefore that the only way forward is to adhear to a strict interpretation of the Koran.

... the difference between a fanatic and a moderate is that the fanatic believes that the world will be dar el Islam in his lifetime. The moderate believes the same, but not in his lifetime.

Or put another way, the Jihadi is a "moderate" in a hurry.

... it is interesting that with this Islamic insistence against individual interpretation and thought which is found in the Koran - the result is that there are NO scientific innovations from the Islamic world. Ever.

True. Muslims believe that the Koran holds all there is to know. There's no need for anything else.

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at December 19, 2006 8:16 PM

Just back from Christmas shopping and surprise: I went into Chapters, in Lethbridge, AB, and 3 feet from the door, on a table, in plain sight, Mark Steyn's book, America Alone. I had to look for Godless, by Anne Coulter, but they had it, in hard cover. It was on the floor, mixed in with several other books. A clerk found it for me, and put seveal copies on the shelf, beside the other Coulter books. Because of that, I purchased gift certificates for all 11 grandchildren. They are easier to mail than pkgs. One stop shopping, and not a dollar on a credit card.

Posted by: maryT at December 19, 2006 8:20 PM

ET said to Irwin Daisy:
I don't think that the Islamic separation of men and women is the 'root cause' of their fascism and suicidal crisis. After all, if that were true, this behaviour would have been endemic centuries ago.

What's you're missing here ET is that we didn't have a globally-advertised hyper-sexed society "centuries ago". I believe the sexual frustration theory is very sound.

Posted by: Me No Dhimmi at December 19, 2006 8:27 PM

ET, I was in Edmonton recently, they need costly infrastructure badly. The payback on that will be decades. Sure the province is highly successful … that’s why it needs money.

It’s ironic but as any successful business person knows, success means the business eats cash.

Therefore our business model for Canada of subsidizing the items in Quebec such as low tuition and $7 a day nanny care is nuts because it deprives the success of Toronto and Edmonton of needed infrastructure for an expanding population. It’s like the subsidizing of losing businesses by Mao’s polices in China. The Chinese learned not to do that and become capitalist... why can’t we?

Posted by: nomdenet at December 19, 2006 8:36 PM

Maudit Maz2 , if you liked “Dream" by the Everly Brothers you’d like this one:

“ Leader of the Pack" by The Shangri-Las , 1964. Now the neat thing is that it was remixed into French and named “Le General de Pack” . Some may remember the rev rev reving of the Harleys in the background . I think Kate should have it as her theme song. If Dion gets elected PM ... it may be compulsory that she have it!

Posted by: nomdenet at December 19, 2006 8:37 PM

miscellani:

I am all in favor of the 'tough love' approach to subsidizing quebec social programs: hack them off abruptly and let the chips fall where they may.

very very tired of the very very bandied nazi label. they simply dont understand naziism. hitler was voted into power, he fully grasped the lure of cultural identity and festering historical resentments. if anyone desrves the label its the quebecers.

just watched 'flight 93' which I taped off the A&E. I got a message for all the muslims looking in: Im gonna go to your muslim paradise and kill the prophet mohammad again and hack his nuts off and shove them down his throat. then a bunch of us are getting together like they did on the united airlines plane and go after your allah and kill him and shove his nuts down his throat. then seeing as we are now in charge of things, all muslims are gonna get one chance to renounce islam or spend eternity with molten lead pouring into their eyesockets.

hows that for visciousness ??? you like that ??? gonna go after the jews again are you ??? hint: uranium 235 is the key. about 40 pounds of it. makes for a rather large firecracker over tehran, qom, mecca, etc.

Posted by: bollocks at December 19, 2006 8:46 PM

PM Harper is going Ghjjn? Kyoto Dion howls with delight: oowoooosucker... It's Dion's dreams come true.
...-
...-

Green Blarney

Terence Corcoran, Financial Post

Stephen Harper's New Government appears set to walk into an
Old Green Trap.

Spurred on by a variety of misleading indicators and false leads, Mr. Harper last week declared that a new environment plan is "part of the reason I'd like to keep governing."

Replacement of Ms. Ambrose may be the first move. If it is, Mr. Harper should ask himself how many good Tory politicians he intends to sacrifice at the alter of a pagan god called Mr. Green.

By replacing Ms. Ambrose and putting the environment at the top of a new Tory
agenda, Mr. Harper risks walking into a deadly trap.

Why is this a trap? Three reasons. ...-
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/financialpost/story.html?id=422fefa7-28cc-4c80-a9d5-9f3dceadc52d

Posted by: maz2 at December 19, 2006 9:12 PM

Here is the trap, Mr. Harper.


“No matter if the science is all phony,

there are collateral environmental benefits... Climate change provides the greatest chance to bring about justice and equality in the world.” - Christine Stewart, former Liberal Canadian Environment Minister....-

Justice and equality = socialism.

Posted by: maz2 at December 19, 2006 9:21 PM

"Environment top priority, PM says."

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/163104

Hmmm. First pandering to Quebec and now going green. It appears that Stevie is morphing into a Liberal. Shades of Brian Mulroney...

Posted by: lberia at December 19, 2006 9:42 PM

In the vancouver METRO daily rag the front page was a story about a school trustee/gun enthusiast.

She advocates the right to carry concealed like she as a CANADIAN gets to do in over 30 US States.

It was mentioned on Global and some talking head was caller her irresponsible for having a non liberano point of view. Gave me a sick feeling in the stomach listened to the sniveling little limp wristed...

Posted by: FREE at December 19, 2006 9:59 PM

No, Iberia, he didn't pander to Quebec. He stopped the gross political manipulation of Quebec by the Liberals and the Bloc. Perhaps you don't recall, but it was Ignatieff who started the whole 'Quebec nation' situation - by declaring that Quebec (the territory) is a nation. He did that because he wanted the Quebec delegates to vote for him.

Then, Duceppe jumped in, to 'take back the power to define Quebec from a non-Quebecer' - and said he would table a motion in the House that 'Quebec is a nation'. Again, that was for crass political purposes.

Harper stepped in and stopped them both, by defining the people, not the territory, as a nation within a united Canada. That stopped the manipulation of the Quebecers. Why are you ignoring what Ignatieff and Duceppe did????

As for climate and the environment - again, that's a mess that the Liberals/and Mulroney have bequeathed to Canada. They signed the Kyoto agreement; they, without any agenda other than crass political gain, signed an impossible agreement to cut greenhouse gases by a large percentage within a DECADE! Impossible. You can't rebuild your entire industrial infrastructure in ten years. My god - it takes two to three years to build an apartment building; rebuilding the energy infrastructure of our industrial factories in ten years??? How many magic wands do you own?
Magic - meaning a supply of money, a lot, a lot of money, for that task, a supply of goods and material; a supply of labour; and, the technology.

It can't be done. But, Canadians are brainwashed into thinking that IF ONLY the env't were clean, then, there'd be no more problems in our world. So, especially since the opposition parties, like the NDP and the Bloc, who will never, ever, ever, ever, have to govern. Will never, ever, ever, have to be accountable for their demands.

Will never, ever, ever, have to come up with the money, with the techniques of implementing any decision, any Motion, any agenda whatsoever - well, these two 'parties' are heavily into brainwashing and electioneering about The Environment Will Save Us All. Can you imagine - we have a situation in our government, where about 1/3 of the seats are held by parties that will never, ever, have to be accountable for their decisions and motions and blatant demands. Never.

That leaves the Liberals - who got us into this mess, who did nothing, absolutely nothing to deal with Kyoto requirements and planned to simply hand over the Fine, pay the money to some polluting nation overseas - rather than clean up Canada. That was the Liberal Agenda. Now, Dion is trying to take the Mantle Of Purity onto himself, praise the Lord and etc. He's doing it for purely political reasons. He wants votes.

So- Harper has to go along with this desire of the brainwashed people. He knows Kyoto is a sham, but it's hugely popular among the cocooned people in Quebec - who aren't really involved, and their hydro dams (federally funded) aren't great polluters. But, they'd love to smash Alberta. Why? Because it's Alberta. And it's successful. And its doesn't rely on federal subsidies. Jealousy.

But, Harper has to do several things; he has to deal with the utopian myths that Canadians desire to live within. And, he has to deal with reality. That's why he put forth his clean air act, which is long term - as it must be. And deals with pollution and not merely carbon dioxide emissions. And why he announced his Great Lakes clean up, and his other anti-pollution measures.
These latter are reality. The CO2 is a myth. And a money scam.

Posted by: ET at December 19, 2006 10:01 PM

ET: Excellent, except this which strikes me as uncharacteriscially naive:
Harper stepped in and stopped them both, by defining the people, not the territory, as a nation within a united CanadaHarper stepped in and stopped them both, by defining the people, not the territory, as a nation within a united Canada.

This territory/people distinction will be utterly lost in the toss and tumble of partisan politics. Only the intelligentsia knows and understands this distinction. A bit later down the road, we are going to get "Heh, he said we were a nation, and heh, nothing changed" (like a promotion without a raise). In time, this will be seen as a mere political parlour trick and it will backfire (not that's there anything wrong with that if they finally separate!).

Posted by: Me No Dhimmi at December 19, 2006 10:33 PM

MaryT: Do you think Coulter's ruined her "Godless" with the anti-evolution chapter? This end, I thought it was fabulous but for that chapter.

Posted by: Me No Dhimmi at December 19, 2006 10:37 PM

ET:

Yeah, the Kyoto credits looks more like a tax base debit to me, and does precisely nothing for the so called problem. Another manufactured governmental hoax that achieves only the draining of ones wallet; to dubious purposes.

I have no problem keeping the environment clean, but do it in an affordable and responsible manner. Energy doesn't just appear out of thin air.

And whats with all the rubbish of dumping Rona? The gal has the jam to show the science has some obvious holes and she gets verbally pilloried because in doesn't accord with Kyoto orthodoxy.

Excuse me, but I thought debate meant looking at all sides of problem and not accepting Kyoto blindly as if it were handed down like the Beatitudes.

Thus Rona is subjected to vilification for giving Kyoto a second look.

Maybe Trudeau should have given Mirabel airport a second look, but here we are some 30-40 years down the road and we are, as recently announced, releasing the land from the Crown.

Isn't it better to get your science right than to miscalculate and cost your economy potentially trillions of dollars? But what the hell taxpayers have unlimited ability to pay; we live in LIEberaldom.

Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at December 19, 2006 10:41 PM

I am a fast reader, but not that fast, I only got thru a couple of chapters on the ride home. Wait till Thur, and I will let you know about the anti evolution chapter later.

Posted by: maryT at December 19, 2006 10:47 PM

Irwin Daisy: Thanks for that link; will read it with interest soon.

I think a big factor too is the insanity resulting from the massive cognitive/emotional dissonance; Islam is a supremacist ideology, but with the aid of global communications -- radio, TV, internet, US pop culture, movies etc -- they can see that Allah's own have been in a major decline for centuries. Their only acceptable interpretation is that they have moved away from "pure Islam" and to recover they must return to an imagined idyll.

And concerning the Jihad against Israel, can you imagine what it must feel like to see the monkeys and pigs make such a notable success of their society (making the desert bloom and all that) from scratch in 1948? That, I believe, is why they feel that Israel needs to be wiped off the face of the map.

Posted by: Me No Dhimmi at December 19, 2006 10:55 PM

ET:

So what you're saying is that Harper has to appear to pander to Quebec and he has to appear to be taking action on the environment - if he wants to get votes. Still sounds very Liberal to me.

Oh, and poor Rona...she was only saying what her boss told her to, but because the public didn't like what she was saying, she's due to become the sacrificial goat...gotta get a new face in there to massage the message a bit, cause winning is the goal.

Posted by: lberia at December 19, 2006 11:12 PM

The Dream Team, isn't that the bunch of lawyers that got OJ off from murdering his wife and friend. So, if the dream team gets guilty people off, is dions dream team going to try to get the liberals off of Adscam and other corruption. And, if dion needs a dream team, what is he guilty of.
Maybe Scott Reid will write a book, IF LIBERALS DID ADSCAM, THIS IS HOW THEY DID IT AND WHO WOULD HAVE BEEN INVOLVED. Free beer and popcorn with each purchase of said book.

Posted by: maryT at December 19, 2006 11:26 PM

lberia,

"... appear to be taking action on the environment"

If Harper wanted to "appear" to be taking action he would simply give the nod to Kyoto ... like Dion and Taliban Jack have. Nothing screams resultless appearance louder than Kyoto.

Hope Rona gets to stick around ... I get the impression she's better at results than appearance of results.

Posted by: ural at December 19, 2006 11:43 PM

CBCpravda

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2006/12/19/harper-motion.html

and now lets have Mr. Dion define Quebecois and of course Francois and maybe even Canadiois??


this Albertan wants out of the "union of silliest soviet replicates".

Posted by: cal2 at December 19, 2006 11:43 PM

ural:

Don't be surprised if Harper gives the nod to Kyoto - whatever it takes to get re-elected. Remember, all the seats in Alberta will not win an election, and conservative voters will never vote Liberal or NDP, so he'll do whatever it takes to get the Ontario and Quebec votes.

Posted by: lberia at December 20, 2006 12:12 AM

I am happy to see that some of you have support for Minister Ambrose.
If She has to take a hit for no good reason that i can see, then Mr. Harper will lose a great deal of the respect that i presently have.
She is doing fine, shes not being stampeded into anything, but i wonder sometimes if she isnt being backstabbed by some of her own officials.

Posted by: Lee at December 20, 2006 12:43 AM

Irwin Daisy,

Your comments and insights; 12/19 at 03:04pm are a cut above.

Many of us limited in surfing time tend to zoom through comments to the bottom.

Your 03:04pm is really worth considering. Glad I did not miss it.

Your excellent comment outline about martyr motivation needs no help at all. I will only add that huge posters that celebrate the fame of family member martyrs are hung on buildings in the streets in Lebanon.

Several times I have read where some martyr families are paid a lump sum of about $30,000 or so. I have no iron clad link for that however.

And this is the link provided by Irwin Daisy . . .

pierrerehov.com/media_ctblog.htm#continue

An interesting interview with a documentary film maker, who just completed a film on the mentality of the Muslim suicide killer and their family. Definitely worth reading, maybe even imperative. = I.D.
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=TG

Posted by: TG at December 20, 2006 1:26 AM

Mary T I'm with you.

I'm not ever gonna forget the theft that the LIEBERAL government KNEW was going on, and ignored if not encouraged it. Rotten to it's very core...

Libs are Nazi as far as I am concerned. Their record back to Fox's fornication screwup proves it!!

Posted by: eastern paul at December 20, 2006 2:12 AM

"Im gonna go to your muslim paradise and kill the prophet mohammad again and hack his nuts off and shove them down his throat. then a bunch of us are getting together like they did on the united airlines plane and go after your allah and kill him and shove his nuts down his throat." - Bollocks

Hmmm. Nobody else found this a bit sick?

Posted by: curious at December 20, 2006 7:10 AM

AdScam Chretien, the Shawinigan Choker, is pepper-spraying the Frenchman, M. Dion.
It's poivre rouge, red Liberal pepper spray.
It's the AdScam Liberals regrouping; the predators are on the hunt.
Unity Dion is a socialist puppet for the AdScam cabal.
...- ...-

CHRETIEN BACK IN THE LOOP

Former prime minister Jean Chrétien, who has been out of active politics for three years, is back in the game, giving advice to the transition team of new Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion.
(national newswatch)

Posted by: maz2 at December 20, 2006 7:32 AM

Hmmm. Nobody else found this a bit sick?

A bit over the top, perhaps, but I too have been thinking lately that world would be a much better place if Mohammed had been killed before he started passing himself off as a prophet of Allah.

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at December 20, 2006 7:47 AM

"Hmmm. Nobody else found this a bit sick?"

Considering the source of the quote, I wouldn't waste a single byte to respond to that type of crap. Trolls tend to say outrageous things to try to get a reaction.

Posted by: Texas Canuck at December 20, 2006 8:33 AM

M. Dion will never, ever read-study-discuss this study from a Quebec university. Citoyen Dion is a sophist-socialist of the French school; the study is in French, too.

Dion has never heard of the Algerian Civil War? Has never read Camus? Pity.
...-


A Canadian geopolitical analyst : Insurgency doom to fail, no civil war in Iraq

A French new study by Nicolas Martin-Lalande, Étude Raoul-Dandurand published by the strategic and diplomatic studies institue of the Quebec University,Montréal, Canada, made an extensive overview of the present situation in Iraq and the future of the country and the insurgency there.

The conclusion :

a) the insurgency will be long to be defeated, but has no chance to win stategically gains due to its lack of unity.

b) the present situation in Iraq is NOT a civil war. The recent comments by sunnis, shia and kurds prove each ethnicity changes his point of view frequently about how to deal with the coalition and their ethnical neighbors. This situation let the analyst suggest it is better situation for negociations, and this reinforce the national unity instead of tearing it apart. ...-
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1756193/posts
...-


Link here:
http://drzz.over-blog.org/article-4967382.html


Y'a-t-il une guerre civile en Irak ?

Vous n'en entendrez jamais parler !

Guerre civile en Irak ? Telle est la question posée par Nicolas Martin-Lalande, Étude Raoul-Dandurand 13 publiée par la Chaire Raoul-Dandurand en études stratégiques et diplomatiques, Université du Québec, à Montréal, dans étude publiée récemment et intitulée "La violence irakienne après la fin des opérations conventionnelles de 2003.Buts, fonctionnement et perspectives de l'insurrection en Irak"

Conclusions :

a) A propos des insurgés : le terrorisme sera long à combattre mais ne peut pas gagner. ...-

Posted by: maz2 at December 20, 2006 9:01 AM

Actually, Iberia, Harper didn't pander to Quebec; he acknowledged their identity as a French-speaking culture within Canada. But, he rejected their claim to a territory.

The 'Quebec situation' and the environment as defined by Kyoto - are Liberal creations. Quebec was created as a problem by Trudeau and his bilingualism and multiculturalism. Bilingualism meant that 20% of the population morphed into the governing authority of Canada, disempowering the other 80%. That's a constitutional reality and no political party can evade this problem. That's why seats have to be won in Quebec. Because of that Constitution and Charter.

The Kyoto environment is a situation created by Chretien and Martin (and Mulroney began it vapid meanderings in 1990). They set up a situation with an impossible goal, and with absolutely no plan of implementation but instead, a plan to use the taxpayer's money to Pay the Fine, rather than design and implement any environmental processes.
That's the Liberal Plan - as usual. Use the taxpayer's money to buy your way out. Kyoto fits right in with Adscam.

Again, any political party has to acknowledge that this treaty was heavily marketed as an environmental program rather than its real nature, which is a money transference program.

Most people on the street don't bother to delve deeply into issues; they get their 'information hits' from the MSM, which acts as a Liberal propaganda machine (we are more socialist/communist than we admit). And, they don't bother to educate themselves - and it has to be self-education, for this information isn't available via the MSM.
So- they don't realize that Kyoto has nothing to do with emissions or pollution but is a money laundering scheme.
They don't realize that official bilingualism has set up a situation where Quebec is the lynchpin of government in Canada - disempowering the rest of Canada.

So, every political party has to realize this. The Liberals, who set up this structure, and whose sole agenda is POWER - obviously use this fake Canada to their advantage. It isn't to the advantage of Canadians. The CPC are not involved in Power for its own sake like the Liberals. They actually want to do something for Canadians. But, they can't ignore the infrastructure set up by the Liberals.

Again, this infrastructure set up by the Liberals has set up a Canada as a manipulated stage of play-actors. We Canadians are the puppets of this script. The script is firm and definite. Most of us have no power in our gov't; our Charter and Constitution gives most decision-making power to Quebec (75 seats and bilingualist officials). We are thoroughly brainwashed in this script - and believe in what our puppet masters tell us - eg, we believe that Kyoto is about the environment. We believe that the softwood lumber problem was due to Evil Greedy Americans; we were never told that the real problem was our low stumpage fees were a subsidy and the Americans were asking us to raise these fees to fair market value. We believe that Canada should only go to war if the UN tells us to; we ignore that the real reason was Chretien's ties to Chirac and his oil deals with Hussein. We ignore the corruption of the UN. We ignore that our economy is cocooned within that of the US and that we don't compete in the world markets. On and on. We are, most of us, puppets, and don't have the time or money to free ourselves.

So, Iberia, because of the structure the Liberals set up, no political party can afford to ignore this structure. And it's a structure, not a set of opinions.

Posted by: ET at December 20, 2006 9:03 AM

I just sent an email to Rona Ambrose telling her that it's not her fault that Kyoto is a lie and that she has been courageous in trying to overcome the impossible odds of communicating the facts about the environment. Even if she gets shuffled, she has served her country well on this file.

ET that is an excellent summary of the State of the Nation.

Posted by: nomdenet at December 20, 2006 9:10 AM

You know, nomdenet, the theatre that we Canadians have set up for ourselves, with the Liberals as scriptwriter and puppet masters, is so extensive that it obscures most of reality from us. We live in a carefully authored script. Most of us don't realize how cocooned within this script we are.

For example, back to that softwood lumber. As I said, the Liberals carefully scripted our experience of this problem; we didn't know that the real problem was that our low stumpage fees, which are the cost of cutting lumber on publicly owned lands, were far below market cost. We were told the only problem was Greedy Evil Americans. But, it is Canadians who were Greedy. Our script never, ever, sets up Canadians as Greedy. No, only the Americans are scripted for that role. We Canadians are Tolerant, Kind, PeaceLoving and Equalizers.

But the reality underneath the script was the Greed of the Canadians. The cost of cutting lumber from public lands (hey, owned by us, the public) was only 30 cents/cubic metre. BUT, they sold it for over $300.00!!! Now, that's a profit of, let me see...hmmm..well, that's 1,000 percent. Not bad, not bad. Now - that's greed. And it's Canadian greed.

Iraq? Well, the Liberals, to reduce costs, started cutting the military about a decade ago, and moved Canada out of the international scene of responsibilities to other peoples. Both in aid, which was cut to among the lowest in the world, and in military assistance. The rejection of Iraq by Chretien wasn't due to any ethics (and how can one consider it unethical to free a population governed by Hussein) - but was due to Greed. Chretien and Chirac are involved in the oil industry and in contracts with Hussein. France didn't want those contracts upset.

Kyoto is scripted for us as a pact to Save the Environment. The reality is that it has nothing to do with the environment. The script is all about the environment. The reality is Greed - it's a money transfer scheme, cloaked in the Environment to hide reality. Nothing pure about Kyoto; it's impure, polluted and won't do a thing, not a thing, for the environment. But, Canada, if it abided by it, would be forced to hand over huge fines to undev't countries, who are exempt from emission and pollution controls. those countries would pollute; so would we. Nothing done for the env't. But - money (greed)from the Canadian taxpayer handed over, rather than being spent to actually do something about the env't here.

So, it's quite the script that has been written for us - and it's a real problem when the information about reality is so difficult and hard to come by. Dissent and questions aren't tolerated readily in our Canadian Stage. We've been programmed; it's unCanadian to question and dissent.

Posted by: ET at December 20, 2006 9:41 AM

I like how Dion is telling his WET DREAM TEAM That they have nothing to Aplogize for or Be ashamed of. Is this Cretians words of advice to them? That it is ok to lie, cheat & steal from the Taxpayers That they will forgive & forget.
On another note the report coming out of Montreal re: the Phone Bust Millions stolen from Seniors & most of these Scammers will most likely get 3yrs & will only serve 6months only to be let out with no parole reporting to go back to their scamming.
Yes we have a fair Justice system don't we Mr.Cotler!
While Dion screams the new word of the day "Idealogy" we see the continuing ripoffs, thanks to the liberal SOFT ON CRIME.

Posted by: bryanr at December 20, 2006 9:42 AM

ET said:
"So, it's quite the script that has been written for us - and it's a real problem when the information about reality is so difficult and hard to come by. Dissent and questions aren't tolerated readily in our Canadian Stage. We've been programmed; it's unCanadian to question and dissent."

Well I stopped believing the script long ago. I may be Canadian but I sure as hell don't buy the script.
Bit by bit perhaps others won't buy the script either. Like "Animal Farm" we have the 'pigs in the trough' LIEberals using the apparatus of the state for personal advancement purposes. Democracy? Represent the people? Only in your wildest Adscam dreams. We have been sold a "True-dopeian" reality which proffers the illusion of democracy built on a house of taxpayer theft.

Kyoto addresses no environmental problems but merely removes wealth from the taxpayer base and transfers it elsewhere.

If one wants to help the other countries then say so. We don't need Kyoto, a wealth transference program which fixes precisely nothing, to masquerade at the 'democracy ball' like a cheap tart whose only eye is on one's wallet.

It is in short, an environmental fraud. Kyoto purports to fix the environment, the greenhouse gas problem, but never directly addresses it by setting up a system of transfer credits to 'stay on side' fictitiously. Another grand farce brought to you by the people of the LIE.

Kyoto purports to identify a problem and sets up a system of credits that circumvents the problem. Exactly, how is the central 'problem' addressed if one can habitually circumvent it?

Now people like Jack & Olivia actually take the environment seriously, and live in an environmentally friendly home. A practical personal demonstration of commitment to environmentally friendly living which, as Kate has shown, before you can download and tour on your own. Even a low volume water toilet for your viewing pleasure.

Alternately, we have Prime Minister Steve who recently approved a hydroelectric power dam to go ahead in Quebec. Hydro-electricity the cheapest, cleanest most renewable energy source known to man and doesn't have a CO2 footprint.

Yep, those conservatives are mighty environmentally unfriendly. NOT.

Time to get off the SCREED of the environment, the Kyoto LIE, and back to doing something practical.

Environmentally friendly homes and hydroelectricity what a great place to start.

If I want farce, I usually turn to the Comedy Channel not the LIEberal channel.

Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at December 20, 2006 10:44 AM

E.T.:
Canadians have always respected and properly considered dissent but you are simply engaged in delusion.
Your assertions are laughable. The specific criticism that you direct at Kyoto is the principle of the CONservative's prospective pollution targets, namely trading pollution credits.
The softwood lumber stumpage fees you describe are untypical and certainly could not have been cited by our industry when prevailing in ALL free trade rulings. As well, the ultimate agreement contravenes WTO principles because our industry is subsidizing the domestic competition AND is restricted prospectively in the U.S. market.
Iraq was invaded for its own good? Chrétien resisted the American invasion of Iraq due to business interests?
I could easily refute these spurious notions but your loquacity serves my interests more than anything I could conceive.

Posted by: joebaloni at December 20, 2006 11:03 AM

Beware the ecosexual

Being green has never been more fashionable nor annoying.

The competitiveness by some to be an eco-warrior is so out of control that it now extends to the world of dating and the birth of the "ecosexual" ...-
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1756303/posts

Commenter:
My first question to any preachy ecofag is: "How many kids have you burdened Gaia with?"

Shuts 'em down every time.

Posted by: maz2 at December 20, 2006 11:40 AM

Is this man still alive?
...- ...-

Israel Insider | Palestinian journalist: ‘Refugees’ were ordered to leave by Arab leaders

Arab residents of Palestine in 1948 were not expelled by Israeli officials or military forces, as many claim, but were actually ordered to leave by local Arab leaders, says Palestinian journalist Mahmud Al-Habbash who writes for the official Palestinian Authority newspaper Al-Hayat Al-Jadida.
...- (jack's newswatch)

Posted by: maz2 at December 20, 2006 12:09 PM

ET,

Out of a flood of good points that you make, this is a sad truth . . .

*Most people on the street don't bother to delve deeply into issues; they get their 'information hits' from the MSM, which acts as a Liberal propaganda machine (we are more socialist/communist than we admit). And, they don't bother to educate themselves - and it has to be self-education, for this information isn't available via the MSM.*
========== This, for example;

pierrerehov.com/media_ctblog.htm#continue

========== If only Liberals knew . . .

Documentry where scam profits are still being raked in from marks who fall for the send money to win your big prize fraud.

If thousands still fall for this today, after all the publicity, how many thousands have no concept of the Islamofascist threat and vote liberal for military withdrawl?

We do need an awakening across Europe and North America.

Tony Blair said something like, **Iran is pushing Shiia fudamentalism in Lebanon, Iraq and Afghanistan** [ 29 beheaded yesterday and bodies hung to warn Afgfhans against siding with peace, democracy and rebuilding].
[TheCanadianSentinel.blogspot.com]

**The world seems not to notice. It would be almost comical if it were not so deadly.** [Tony Blair.]
====== TG

Posted by: TG at December 20, 2006 12:19 PM

Has anyone ever read the Kyoto Accord. I think it is just a piece of paper, signed by a few, who probably never read it, or understood it. Lets compare it to your Last Will and Testament. You think it is solid, will make sure your wishes are followed but, somewhere along the line, someone doesn't agree with it, someone feels they don't get their share, some item is sold before death, an investment is cashed in, and you make no changes. Some greedy family member with a greedy lawyer can get this piece of paper overturned. Strongs will, Kyoto, can and should be ruled null and void. We have to get the message out about what is meant by credits, what they will cost, programs we have to without to meet the cost of the credits. Wasn't one of the goals of this to reduce the amount of co2 to a %age less than was emitted in 1990 or thereabouts. We have already increased the amount by 35%, so tell me, what are cdns willing to give up, (individuals, not just AB oil industry) to reduce your emmissions by about 50% of todays total. The liberals have done a great job of trying to convince cdns that it is only Alberta that will suffer. How wrong they are. As for the SLD, how many liberal lawyers are now forced to find other income as their income from lawsuits over this softwood lumber deal are finished. And why isn't getting 80% better than getting nothing, while funding greedy liberal lawyers. Now we have the fight over the CWB. Tell me, how many of the last liberal budgets even mentioned the word farmer. That word is strange in liberal mouths, especially coward dions. They must know we are waking up to the scam of kyoto, so they are now getting all uptight over the CWB.
Whats with Montreal citizens. Seems all scams, adscam, phone scams etc are based out of that city. At least the olympics are now paid for, after how many years. Now Que just has to pay for the Out games.

Posted by: maryT at December 20, 2006 1:10 PM

Thanks TG.

Curious: You should read what Dante wrote about Mohammad. Better yet, there are paintings.

Posted by: irwin daisy at December 20, 2006 1:41 PM

Canadian Socialist M. Dion approves of anti-fat war; says he will set up Quotas for Fat, as his countrymen in France have done. Dion will go farther; Free tape measures. Dion's Motto: Thin is good; Fat is bad. H/T George Orwell's "1984".

Man's belly girth measured in public view: Humilization, for youse.
...-
...-

Overweight man sues Air France over seat row

Reuters ^ | December 20, 2006 | Reuters
PARIS (Reuters) - An overweight passenger has sued Air France after being told he was too fat and had to pay for a second seat to accommodate his bulk. Jean-Jacques Jauffret, a French scriptwriter, told Reuters Wednesday he had felt humiliated by Air France staff who had measured his waist in public at New Dehli airport in 2005 and decided he was too big for a single seat....-
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1756369/posts

Posted by: maz2 at December 20, 2006 2:01 PM

All this crap about the obese, when Italy is banning thin models. As many said when the no smoking crap started in the 70s. Give them an inch and they will take a mile, and eventually come after something you like. Time for people to wake up and make a decision to fight every loss of freedom the charter has taken from us. We can no longer sit on the side lines and say, that doesn't affect me or my family, because soon it will affect you and your family and the rest of us will say, go to hell. Stop govt funding of every special interest group, pass laws that require at least 500 people to be in favor or against anything. One person taking the govt at any level to court because they think something doesn't suit them is WRONG. We now have 4 cdn women ski jumpers going after the Olympic committee for not allowing this event in the games. I could care less if it is included or not.

Posted by: maryT at December 20, 2006 2:48 PM

Ha ha Warren ha ha Kins ha ha ella had a poll on who is best/worst in the Canadian media. As expected the so-called journos were mostly savaged. He has not published the results and says his favourite Nat Post won't either. And this from an unabashed lefto web-site no less.

WK, however, would only 'comment' on the results, so far. In his 'Best Blog Award', I would suggest the WK results were probably overwhelmingly sda, as in the major;

2006 Weblog Awards, (thousands of voters)
Sda with ...... ............... 53.82% 3255 votes
Calgary Grit had only .... 6.71% 406 votes

Yet this is how our friend WK 'reported' his poll;

WK "...High on the favourites list: the respected Calgary Grit and the aforementioned Wells' blog, hosted on the Maclean's site. For troglodytes, Small Dead Animals appeared to be a hit, too. Go figure... "

Paul well's blog was not even in the Weblog finals(do not know if he was even nominated)

Warren, listen, the Silent-Majority has figured it out a long time ago. Blogs such as sda is Canada's best hope for Democracy and a way to expose the Chretien, Martin, Dion, media corruption.

Posted by: B. Hoax Aware at December 20, 2006 3:03 PM

~~ DION TO HOUND HARPPER ON WHEAT BOARD IN NEW YEAR ~~ Globe

Now why would Dion be "standing up" for Prairie Farmer's "interests" ?? There must be something behind this.

Dion and Chretien's Liberals also "stood up"(with hands in pockets) for Que/Canada's interests and gave us Adscam.

It makes no sense that Dion would put such a high priority on the CWB. Orders from Lib-Powerbrokers ? CSL ? UN food-aid ? CIDA perhaps ?? Leadership debt relief ??

As Lowell Green said in his new book, 'Tree-Hugging Thug Huggers Destroying Canada', if something smells, follow the money.

Posted by: B. Hoax Aware at December 20, 2006 4:35 PM

caught with his surrender monkey pants down.


http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2006/12/20/harper-dion-quebecois.html

Posted by: cal2 at December 20, 2006 6:04 PM

Yes, Virginia. Willy Clinton was impeached, on two counts; but, not convicted. The US Senate would not convict Clinton. Only 2 US presidents have been impeached; Jackson and Clinton, both Democrats.

Mommy. Is Monica now a conservative?
...-


Lewinsky graduates from London School of Economics

Reuters ^ | Dec. 20, 2006
Former White House intern Monica Lewinsky, whose sexual relationship with U.S. President Bill Clinton led to his impeachment, has graduated from the London School of Economics, her publicist said on Wednesday. Lewinsky, who was 21 when she became involved with Clinton, is interviewing for jobs in Britain, publicist Barbara Hutson said. When Lewinsky, 32, received her Masters of Science degree in Social Psychology last Thursday "the audience of students and parents erupted in spontaneous applause. ... It was a very emotional moment for her," Hutson said in a statement. Hutson said Lewinsky spent the past year studying and "staying away...-
free republic

Posted by: maz2 at December 20, 2006 8:43 PM

CBC TO LOSE CFL BROADCAST RIGHTS
TSN will emerge as the primary carrier of Canadian Football League games. “Sources said yesterday that the new deal, which will start in 2008, will eliminate the CBC as a carrier of regular-season and playoff games. ...-


TORONTO STAR CUTS JOBS
Torstar Corp., owner of Canada's largest daily newspaper, the Toronto Star, is eliminating 85 jobs as it restructures its newspaper division and more cuts may be on the way, according to one analyst...-
(national newswatch)

Posted by: maz2 at December 20, 2006 9:35 PM

Re: Whining Kinsella's poll:
The giveaway quote is actually a little before he releases the results:
"December 20, 2006 - Okay okay okay! Stop already!

Your votes have been counted. The column has been filed. Keith Boag will not be happy.

Thanks for your help, folks. You're the best blog audience a girl could ask for."

I presume that means that all us sda "troglodytes" broke HIS map, too...

A proud troglodyte member of the SDA nation
Another_Sean

Posted by: Another Sean at December 21, 2006 12:11 AM

Jean Dion, aka Le Chef, says Moi's motto is:
Back to the Pasta. (Brought back to my country, France, from Italy by Napoleon, my hero.)


Citoyen Dion has metamorphosed into Jeancula Chretien.
It's the Librano$ vs. the Reform Party 1993.

Jean Dion wants more HRDC, more AdScam, more Shawinigate, more Gagliano, more Librano$$$$...


DION TO CAMPAIGN LIKE IT'S 1993
Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion will use Jean Chrétien's successful 1993 campaign as a model for the next election, he told party supporters yesterday.
...-

SIX ARRESTS IN KICKBACK PROBE
The former campaign chair for two Toronto mayors and a provincial health minister faces fraud and bribery charges in connection with the misappropriation of federal government grants. John Danson, 60, a long-time Liberal party activist and campaign manager for mayors Mel Lastman and June Rowlands, is one of six people arrested....-
(national newswatch)

Posted by: maz2 at December 21, 2006 8:04 AM

ROUNDUP: Face Of Italian Right-to-die Campaign Diesby Playfuls Team. Piergiorgio Welby, a terminal patient who had asked to die without suffering,
passed away after a doctor agreed to sedate him and switch off his life support system, Italian pro-euthanasia activists said Thursday. ...-


A poet's message:


Do not go gentle into that good night

Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Dylan Thomas (1914-1953)

Posted by: maz2 at December 21, 2006 9:22 AM
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