And a new poll for Global news shows that it really doesn't matter who they vote in because SH and the CPC would still win - by 8-10% points over any of the top 4!!

Now Joe Volpe could be a problem (hee hee) - Go Joe!!

Buzz is there. CAW...CAW...

November 30, 2006 - Wow, what a rally! Michael Ignatieff and supporters dressed in different coloured Iggy t-shirts totalled close to 2000 for a huge show of support this afternoon.

In terms of buzz,

this has been one of the biggest events of the convention.
TDH

Heh. Watching some of the coverage at the moment, there appears to be some kind of stripper as part of the tribute to PM Dithers...in light of the Judy Sgro "Strippergate" scandal, the format seems most appropriate...

5 years of Bob Rae did to us in Ontario what the NEP did to Alberta.

He turned a mild US recession of 10 months into a 5 year disaster. People couldn't find work, hundreds of thousands lost their jobs or were in constant fear of doing so, and my entire family remembers the difficulty of even putting food on the table back then...

Bob Rae is the end of civilization as we know it.

We must never forget.

Did "the New Generation of Liberals" adopt Policy #45?

Just wondering.

Policy no. 45 reads: "WHEREAS the current law discriminates against unmarried same-se* couples by not permitting unmarried persons under 18 to legally engage in consensual ana1 intercourse; BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Liberal Party of Canada urge the Federal Government of Canada to bring the age of consent for ana1 intercourse in equal pairing with other forms of sexual activity."

The age of sexual consent for heterosexual intercourse in Canada is 14.

I would dearly love for Rae to win - he would be so much chum for SH and the CP.

Iggy's got it though barring some major faux pas in his speech. The CP just has to stand far enough away when he detonates and takes much of the LP with him.

Me, I'm cheering Bob Rae on as I owe him a significant debt of thanks. Back when he was Premier of Ontario and based on the crap he put us through, I chose to move to Alberta.

Best thing I ever did, and I don't think I was an isolated case.

Heh. I was in New Delhi, India, on a business trip, working out of the Canadian High Commission the day of the Ontario election in 1989...a staffer came running down the hallway, almost like "chicken little", loudly announcing that Bob Rae and the NDP had just taken the election in Ontario.

I was with about 12 people at the time, we all looked at each other in complete astonishment.

Then I returned to Ontario and experienced the utter incompetence of Bob Rae. His most famous quote, as I recall "we are going to spend our way out of this recession"....

Yup...that worked....NOT!!!

GO RAE!!!!

His ascension to the leadership of the Libs should guarantee a CPC majority...unless the populace of Canada are complete morons

*starts to research immigration policies of Australia*

Does anyone else think the kid behind the clapping man in the "new generation" picture looks like a young Scott Reid? Could that be the son that's spending all of his money on popcorn and beer?

I love that dude...

Long Live The Mole!

BS wants to play leapfrog with the Librano$.

BS was repudiated, sort of. (Dead, too)

The bs from BS; piled-higher-and-deeper. ...-

Old-style leadership race lives on; Liberals reject one-member, one-vote

"The vote marked a repudiation of sorts for MP Belinda Stronach.

Stronach, a Conservative leadership candidate in 2004, declined to run in the Liberal race, saying she was committed instead to reforming her new party's leadership process. She reportedly spent hundreds of dollars out of her own pocket this week paying for flyers to promote the one-member, one-vote initiative.

"You know what, we're missing 98 per cent of the family here today," Stronach implored delegates, speaking from one of the floor microphones at the Palais des congres.

"Don't be afraid. Be open. Let's modernize this party. Let's leapfrog

ahead of the Conservative party

so we can engage,

we can earn the trust

and respect of Canadians,

we can become the most open and democratic party

in the world." cnews
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From a previous report:

Stronach aims for substance

over style

at Liberal leadership convention

MONTREAL (CP) - Belinda Stronach emerges from the

chic Montreal hotel where she's just fine-tuned

her final push to overhaul Liberal party

democracy. cnews
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More:

Regina from Sask speaks:

"I'm not willing to have my party hijacked by special interest groups like the Defend Marriage Coaltion[sic] or the National Rifle Association," Mike Burton, a delegate from Regina, told the convention floor to loud applause."
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SOW is dead; BS is dead. So much for women in the Liberal Party, aka the Old Boy's Club.

Bruce, Australia has tough immigration rules and a lot of hoops to jump through, especially if you want to retire there. Although, the fact that they will not allow anyone in with a criminal record or associated with criminal activity to immigrate does ensure there will not be any Canadian Lieberals there. Even ex-cons have limits.

Re: the young man with the glazed, drugged look on his face. This may be the real story.

1:00 PM - Wondered out loud if any of the options for leader could run the country without screwing up worse than Paul Martin did.

2:00 PM - After word about this anti-liberal thought getting around, the executive sets up a test which he promptly fails(He turned down the brown envelope full of cash).

3:00 PM - Armed security escorts him to the basement thought control department.

5:00 PM - After 2 hours of electoshock therapy, a 40 point drop in IQ, and removal of all original thought, the executive deems the young man again ready to be a liberal delegate.

5:30 PM - photo op with Paul Martin

Seeing the inanely grinning face of Paul Martin in your photo brings back unhappy memories. It also leads one to reflect that the Liberals have been better off with NO leader than with either Paul Martin or Jean Chretien.

Paul Martin doesn't smell - I've shaken hands with him and didn't need disinfectant afterward - but he exudes a palpable atmosphere of corruption and decay. His presence at the Liberal Convention will remind us all forcibly of why we didn't vote Liberal and aren't likely to do so in the near future.

Bruce,

Rae is a very slick politician and he never gets nailed on anything he does wrong. He's proof that an idiot can still be a Rhodes Scholar.

He'll do something like blame it on Mulroney, Mike Harris, circumstances, blah blah blah no matter how many negative ads our side puts out.

He's a real wild card if he gets it - anywhere from CPC landslide to Lib majority.

And if Mr. Rae becomes PM, there is NO hope left for Canada.

"His ascension to the leadership of the Libs should guarantee a CPC majority...unless the populace of Canada are complete morons"

Just a reminder. 30% of the population still voted liberal last time around.

We can only hope.

Syncro

Did anyone else see Mark Tewksbury quote his mother calling Stephen Harper a redneck? Not even the amoral Libs were laughing. Watching him all night has been a train wreck, but this was the icing on the cake.

What is it with our ex-athletes? Myriam Bedard, Ron Stewart, now Tewksbury...why are they all cracking up?

What I wouldnt' give for a youtube clip of that. I hope someone is taping it. Please.

Giuseppe da Volpe.

Joe da Klingon.

Asked by Peter to explain his charisma, Joe said: "Borghel bo'Degh butlh."

(Is CP mocking the Librano$?)
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Volpe's velcro grip on his delegates moves him from the spurned to spotlight

MONTREAL (CP) - After being maligned as an embarrassment to the party, Joe Volpe is suddenly one of the most sought after belles at the Liberal leadership ball. (cnews)

The Great I Am, Paul Martin. How the hell did such a wonderful, perfect man get defeated?
The bullshit going on tonight in tribute to Martin is as stinking as any barnyard could possibly get.
Vitriolic spleen venting beyond any expectations.
Gotta tune it out if you have blood pressure problems.

The pic is deeply disturbing. The vid may prove to be apocalyptyic.

Syncro

As we go into the evening of the greatest night since 68 my thoughts are on hair.

Having none I seek a proxy. Gerard or Iggy!!!

Syncro

Smaul Fartin' just off the stage and who does the CBC talk to? None other than "Earnscliffe Herle", what a joke, Earnscliffe contracts being the former PM's response to Chretien's Adscam deals. No wonder Gomery called the LPoC criminally organized. Where is the NINE BILLION DOLLARS that went to the, so called, Private Foundations?

Bruce

How dare you ask about that 9b. Are you uncanadian?

Syncro

I guess it would be un-Canadian to mention Stephan Dion being a citizen of France and Canada when the most recent GG had to renounce her French citizenship in order to be in her present position?

How about the Technology Partnerships Program scandal? Or the CSL and Fednav contracts? Or Honest Ralphie's Income Trust waffle, seems Scott Brison was there, as were many others who profited at the expense of? Who feels "Entitled to their Entitlements" ?????????????????????

CBC Radio One reported around suppertime that Iggy has a paid troupe of women at the convention who rush up and kiss him on cue. I kid you not.

How shallow would you have to be to let a college stunt like that sway your vote?

Bart,

And what is worse, how shallow do you think Ignatieff is for thinking that would work?

Is it me or is the MSM treating this like the coming of the Messiah? I don't recall all day TV coverage and reporters simply gushing at how "happening" this all is at the Conservative convention. The build up in the media has been like the buildup to the Superbowl for crying out loud. I don't want to sound like Chicken Little but I get the feeling that the Media has just set itself to promoting and crowning the next Liberal government. It will be interesting to see how things develop.

I couldn't help but watch the train wreck last nite. I was already sick anyhow.

Did anyone else watch Dean's speech?

Did you notice the applause he got when he talked about running an electrical line from Vermont to Quebec during the ice storm in '98 because it was the right thing to do? He then went on to mention the Montana wildfires last year and how Alberta firefighters risked their lives to help out there....The response could best be described as what I call a "golf clap"

So, the delegates honored Paul Martin tonight for all he has done for the liberal party. Did they mention he took the liberals from a majority, to minority to defeat. And, did anyone mention that he was so sure of himself, and was determined to get a larger majority than Chretain that he called an unnecessary election. Imagine the party if he had actually done anything for the liberals. Oh, I forgot, he made it possible for several liberals to get a lot of unearned income in brown paper bags. Great reason to celebrate.
Just think, the leader will be chosen by a bunch of delegates with hangovers, at least the ones who remember to show up to vote.

I made myself watch the Paul Martin Tribute. My husband could only take the first hour and a half of it. I stayed till the bitter end, till Julie Van Dusen made a point of telling CBC viewers that she'd be joining the delegate she had just interviewed at one of the Libs' hospitality suites/sweets. 'Just letting us CPC-ers know that she cavorts with "the enemy."

The whole evening, not just Mark Tewksbury, was a train wreck. I watched in fascinated horror, as one G*d-awful act/speaker followed another G*d-awful act/speaker. Colin James was OK--but his choice of songs was bizarre: one of them, Van Morrison's "Into the Mystique," might have been his forecast for the Liberal Party...--and Natalie McMaster is hard to criticize.

I almost felt sorry for Paul Martin after each successive 'tribute.' He and Sheila looked utterly stunned, and how can you blame them?

But the rest...the operatic "Diva" Nathalie Chocette was appalling (Bruce, above, called her "some kind of stripper": that's being kind), with wine dripping down her chin and a mouthful of spaghetti, which it looked, for sure, like she was going to gag into the napkin tucked into her very deep cleavage, while she sang Madama Butterfly's beautiful aria. You'd have to see it to believe it...

THEN, there was Paul Martin's speech, which droned on and on and on and on... Isn't a Tribute to oneself supposed to end in gratitude and a fade out? He used it as a soapbox to excoriate the CPC and Prime Minister Stephen Harper, about the only time that Mr. Dithers actually became animated, passionate, and focused: But it was in extremely poor taste, and revealed, yet again, just how desperate the LPC has become: do a hatchet job on the Conservatives instead of highlight what the LPC has done best, the main reason being that it was hard to come up with what they did best...Pathetic.

And can't Paul Martin do ANYTHING without that look of crazed bewilderment on his face? It seemed to be asking, "What the H*ll am I doing here?"

I can't think of a worse MC than Mark Tewksbury, though, as a gay Olympian, he was a representative of one of the many "diverse" and "different" groups that kept popping up throughout the evening: gays, feminists, Aboriginals, VERY wealthy businessmen (though Paul Desmarais seemed to be a no-show: I guess he was in the rafters manning the strings), UN guys in the form of Kofi Annan, World Bank guys in the form of past-president Wolfonson, and various and sundry others who spoke via satellite to say what a "progressive" leader Paul Martin was and how Martin's "Canadian values" had helped them enormously.

Monty Python couldn't have done it better!!

And, that's only for starters. There's another two days to go. Hold onto your hats, folks! Well, hold onto your wallets. The CBC ran the two-hour extravaganza with no advertising: all on our dime.

I've especially enjoyed the wise analytical "team" that Don Newman has on the "Broaaaaaaaaaaaadcast".I can't believe cbc has reached an all-time low,if they have to use Duhlinda!Hasn't contributed a coherent thot,and it's priceless watching Boag's reaction..like he can't believe how vacant she really is.

This is from National Post columnist John Ivison's convention blog:

It seems to be fair comment to say that at Conservative conventions, delegates discuss how to run the country; at NDP conventions, delegates discuss how to run the country into the ground; at Bloc conventions, delegates discuss how to run another country; while at Liberal conventions, no-one much cares who is running the country, as long as they have a hospitality suite.
link

Re: Sammy's comment about CBC running two hours without commercials.

Didn't(couldn't force myself to) watch it but if CBC really ran two hours without commercials I want to know who paid for it. If CBC ran it with no charge I want to know who's decision it was and how much under the table cash he/she received for it. Can anyone confirm this as I want to follow this up with CBC.

My prediction - Stephan Dion is going to be the next liberal leader. Rae's delegates won't vote for Iggy and vise versa. To rule Canada you have to rule Quebec. If a French Canadian gets in quebecers will vote for him as will liberals in the rest of Canada. Quebecers only vote for there own. This is why we have had french PM's for almost the last fifty years. We have now had a non quebec PM for a year so its quebecs turn again. This is why if the ROC wants to thrive it has to have a referendum and vote quebec off the island. My hope is that Rae wins. Hopefully no one in Ontario is stupid enough to vote for him again, but ya never know...

I'd bet a cup of coffee and a donut on Dion

mbaron

Sorry - the no commercial comment wasn't Sammy's - it was 'been around the block'

I like Colin James but Jackson Browne would have been better;
Imagine having to hear the screams and strangled cries of libranos in love

My money's on the debt doubler. Why elect an adult (Dion) when you can have sophomoric BOb.

I wanted Bob Rae to win so badly that I spent 10 bucks and joined the LPC soI could vote for him (or a delegate who would).

The more I think about it the more concerned I get. It would be just like the voters in Ontario(and I'm one of them) to put Rae into power as PM.

I mean, while I was away hunting the turkeys returned David Miller as Mayor in Toronto. (well, all 56 of the turkeys who actually bothered to vote..)

Bob Rae as leader of the LPC seemed to me a wonderfully ironic dream. Now, I'm not so sure...

Sammy, I noticed the same thing: Duhlinda (LOL!), in answer to a question by Don Newman, delivered the same two sentences she's been recycling (badly) over the past few years and Keith Boag has a look of OMG, how bad can this get? What's this BIMBO doing on the show, anyway?

Don't you love it?

mrtisaduffer: There were absolutely NO COMMERCIAL breaks through the Tribute, which lasted about two hours. On top of that, there were no Conservative, NDP, or Bloc commentators and it seems to me that at the CPC convention, there was commentary from other parties. All the CBC commentators and Susan Delacourt were cheerleaders for the Libs.

'Anyone notice last night, when Diana Swain was interviewing Sergio Marchi, she had her hand on his shoulder the whole time? I was trying to picture her, or Keith Boag, putting their arm around Stock Day or Rona Ambrose while doing an interview.

But I can't do it.

I love the fact that my tax dollars are enabling me to watch this tripe via the CBC. What really irks me is the masses who think they are enlightened by tuning into the news and believe they are getting an unbiased account. Whether it be Afghanistan or anything political, the CBC makes me want to puke.

Tewksbury blasts Harper, Alberta - Click on link below for YouTube clip.

The Red Star has endorsed Boob Rae, of course. Already annointed by Uncle Mo (come out, come out, whereever you are!) and the Montreal power cabal. He's so reformed now, though, isn't he?

Boob Rae is like political kryptonite.

Bring him on.

Say, where is that Tsunami money?

Is "the kiss of death" the correct answer to the question for which this thread was set up?

Anyone see MotherCorp's "Four on the Floor - Who can beat Harper?" feature tonight?

It was like a Bob Rae infomercial. And they sure don't like Iggy.

The MSM and their NDP PM. For them it would be like going to heaven without having to die.

Erik Sorenson,

"The kiss of death" would be the correct answer to - What is Landslide Annie's endorsement of Dinning?

Bob Rae who has solicited approx. $1 million in donations and racked up $800 thousand and change in LOANS for his campaign. And says he has learned his lesson and is now fiscally responsible. Right.

if Belinduh is looking for substance over style then lose the barbie pink book...and you can use my line "I only dye my hair brown so people think I'm intelligent"

go have somewhere else to go.

CBCpravda "all Liberal, all the time"

they are so busy fawning over their pseudocelebs they dont realize how ridiculous they look. Its the CBC version of the academy awards except the interviews come off more like hollywood squares.

Has anyone seen any negative commentary on TV that discussed the fact that they chose an American, Howard "Yeeeeoooorgh" Dean and the head of the Young Democrats to address delegates?

If this was the Conservative Party and they had a Republican keynote speaker, the Corpse would be all over it accusing them of being Uncanadian.

Well I identify myself as a lefty not a "Liberal" or "NDP" voter as my vote is always up for grabs. But no I'm not a fan of Bob Rae he is a twit.

"Well I identify myself as a lefty not a "Liberal" or "NDP" voter as my vote is always up for grabs. But no I'm not a fan of Bob Rae he is a twit."

Do they even have a NDP party or a Liberal party in the country in which you reside, Jose? And when are you planning on visiting "Hotel Canada" again? Oh right, you hate Canada because Canada is too racist for you. Well, looks like you'll have to pick a passport soon...

;-)

I suspect all the candidates share one common trait.
That in their teens these guys where the ones most likely to be the recipient of a wedgie.

Pencil-neck geeks.

Heck even Chrtein had balls, even though he has to carry them in his brief case.

Martin offers Liberals no apologies

Brison hosts intimate gathering

Cheeky delegates snap up thongs

Morton is "scary"

It's cloudy, overcast, rainy in Montreal

Jeancula will apologize for AdScam; Librano$ to pay back 150 $million from Canadians

CWB president, aka Adrian, to be fired

Steve is in Mexico

All is unfolding as it should*

*H/T Truedough

You've said it all, "'been around the block".

That had to be the most shameful bowing out speech by any Prime Minister in Canadian History.

Though it was was typical Paul Martin, the Great I am, one has to wonder if perhaps Scott Reid wrote it.
The man still has no grasp of the mess he made as leader of the Liberal Party. Everything backfired on him. He was out to do a job on the Petit Gar from Shawinigan and failed by taking down the Party and himself along with it. They should have presented him with a hook, line and sinker.

They're not particular where they stamp their logo either,with items like red thongs and condoms, we know where their heads are.

Given the fawing over the Trudeau spawn by the Libs and their mouthpieces (MSM), I wouldn't be surprised if some delegate made a motion to crown him Liberal leader for life - with a codicile that his male heirs inherit the crown for ever after.

It would be fun to watch all the delegates bow to the feet of the Great One as he accepts - with surprise - WHO, ME?

It's the RED Campaign.

More: The Mole posts, again.

See Manic Martin with his Liberal Youth:

Manic says "youth are the future".

Wait until Jeancula Chretien tees off. Fore.... da Canadian value$$$$$$$$

Google joins in with:

"World AIDS Day Learn more about World AIDS Day and the (RED) campaign."

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A New Generation of Liberals
November 30, 2006
Real renewal in the Liberal Party begins with the Young Liberals of Canada, former prime minister Paul Martin told a spirited crowd of youth delegates today. “Everyone always says that youth are the future, but for young...-
lib.ca

Jeancula:

Faire du Comte Jean Joseph Jacques Chrétien un vampire n'est pas tout à fait une invention puisque la tradition orale des Québécois faisait déjà de lui un suceur de dollars dès le début de son apparition sur le trône en 1993...

Où s'arrête la fiction, où commence la réalité ?
Il est des mystères que l’on peut à peine imaginer, et que l’on ne résoudra qu’en partie.
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http://www.lecornichon.qc.ca/journal/archives/00000177.html

The CBC ran this show for ex-pmpm for 2 hours and couldn´t sell any advertising time...
Now should we be surprised?
Is it next year that Hockey Night in Canada´s broadcast rights are up, and most likely going to the CTV? I heard once that this 1 program accounts for more than a third of CBC funding. I cannot verify that now, but I can see the desperation creeping from CBC´s accounting division. It must be very difficult for these folks to focus on anything past the next election.. er.. coronation?

*Barb at 1.13am puts an idea to be concerned with in print* ah but this money is pocket change for Bob... who of course has learned his lesson. But have the Liberals learned anything? an obvious answer here.

desperation in CBCs accounting department.

there are only three lines in their accounts.

cost
-revenue
________

requested subsidy.

can CBCpravda and sell it to Fox.

All the theatrical hoopla is fun to snicker over but we all know Bubba Rae will win because Bubba Rae is the Powercor candidate and the Powercor candidate always wins...until recently in the federal election...but they always win the LPC leadership.

The LPC has always had a big thing for keeping a corporate trust sugar daddy... with King it was Rockefeller with Mike Pearson it was the Bronfmans and with the PET-Chretien-Martin era it was the Desmarais powercor....oh ya by the way, Iggy is the second Powercor horse in the race....so it looks good for the continued Powercor LPC leadership bund continuing....unless magna steps up to the plate, but they really are not there yet in their ability to deliver associated corporate patronage to the LPC coffers.

Let the carnival begin....over to you, Craig Oliver for some media cheerleading of this elitist farce!

It seems to me that its not just the CBC thats giving the LPC an enormus amount of free advertising. Living on Vancouver Island I occasionally tune into CKNW, although less and less. It seems that every time I turn on "Red" Bill lately he's going on and on about the liberals.
The worst is that it doesn't matter who they chose to be their next leader they will win the next election.

The CPC did not win the last election, the Weasel Martin lost it.
Now the CPC has the same problem with their leader and they don't have the msm giving them a leg up.
I voted Reform since its inception and voted CPC last time. Harper blew my vote away some time ago long before the extra special status that he instigated for Quebec.
I've said it before, Canada died on 24 June 04 when it elected a known thief and any chance of resurection died with Harper.
For all you staunch CPC suporters, open your eyes and see what Harper is doing.

I liked how Martin pulled the knife out of His former boss's back, now where will he place it when they take the stage together?

Well, Tony W, I like what Mr. Harper is doing. If you care to be a little more specific, it might point out something ive been missing.

If Bob Rae wins the leadership I will be voting CPC in the next election.

From Rae Daze to alienating his support base this guy was the George Costanza of decision makers!

Bob"Oh right, you hate Canada because Canada is too racist for you."

Where did you get that idea from? I love Canada, heck I even love Alberta (used to live there). I got along with Albertans fine while I was out there although I had plenty of good natured arguments with them over politics.

Don't be so quick to fill in the blanks on people like that all you're doing is impairing your own judgement.

Not according to many comments you left here previously, Jose.

You effectively said you hate Canadians because they are racist and you said it repeatedly, as a search of Kate's site proves well beyond any doubt. Face it, Jose; based on your own words you're a hardcore anti-Canadian racist.

How does this relate to the topic at hand? Michael Ignatieff wants to triple immigration so more racist folks like Jose can come to Canada and tell us how racist and uptight we are! Enough.

All I need to know about Bob Rae came when he was premier, during a CBC Radio interview one morning while I was heading into work (yes, I used to be able to stand listening to CBC). He was bitc..., um, complaining about the fact that Ontario paid more in taxes to Ottawa than it got in services. Considering that the NDP's whole world view is based on taking from the high earners, I thought that was pretty hypocritical. Big shock there!

The winner? Two points:
- The Libs have elected alternating Anglos and Francos back to, when, WW2? (interim leaders not included)
- Mr Dithers is an Anglo.
I'm with mbaron - it'll be Dion.

Rae Who? Award.

CP, aka the Fabulist Canadian Press, receives award:

Most Empty, Vacuous, Air-Headed, Kiss-Ass, Headline-Fable ever: Winner of The Rae Who? Award.

Next from CP: Liberal Dog bites man; Liberal Dog dies.
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Rae looking forward to candidate speeches as delegates get set to vote
MONTREAL (CP) - One of the front-runners in the Liberal leadership race says he is looking forward to today's all-important candidate speeches in Montreal.

Good work, Kate. You are providing a perfectly legitimate alternative, from the perspective of the 'ordinary Canadian' with a mind of her own which she uses, to the MSM Liberal-loving spin.

Do keep it up. This is what people want.

We don't need some fancy-schmancy, expensive medium- we only need our perspective and our blogs.

The MSM is no more legitimate than you or me or any other blogger. So let's do our best to annoy them via presentation of a more realistic, mainstream point of view.

Hey, MSM, are you paying attention? Your transparent partisan orientation is turning off more and more of your audience, who see y'all less and less as a source of information, analysis and commentary. You no longer have a monopoly.

The people are now being heard. But will the MSM bother to listen respectfully? Choose to discount us at your peril, ye ivory-tower elitists!

"You effectively said you hate Canadians because they are racist and you said it repeatedly"

By "effectively" I assume you mean "to those of us on crack". I didn't say any such thing plain and simple.

Liberal party brass: Vanity of Vanities.

"*I have become brass sounding, or a cymbal tinkling;"
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Liberals declare leadership convention the biggest in Canadian history

MONTREAL (CP)

- Liberal party brass

are calling this week's get-together in Montreal the biggest leadership convention in Canadian history, with nearly 9,000 people registered to attend. (cnews)

*H/T: The other Paul.

2 very interesting polls CanadaAM & ipso's
re: whoever leads liberal party in next election would you vote for them or cpc.
both show Harper win

Bob Rae, lets see:

While premier of Ontario he turned a two guarter recession into a four year depression, the only jurisdiction in North America with a recession that long. He hiked personal income tax by 7 percent over six years, giving Ontario the highest marginal personal income tax rate in North America and his policies and record high budget deficits led to two downgrades of Ontario's credit rating (in '91 and '93). In addition, he closed 20 percent of the hospital beds in Ontario, cut nearly 7,000 nurses between '92 and '95, cut the number of places in medical schools, cut $200 million from the ministry of the environment, eliminated grants for students and increased the tuition fees more than any of the last five Ontario premiers, including Mike Harris.

By '93, three years into his guvnaship, an Environics poll showed 41 percent of Ontarions would have seriously considered leaving the province if they had the means, which of course we didn't, because we were broke.

I'm one Ontarian that well remembers the prick.

If he wins, the Conservative's next election attack ads are gonna be fun to watch.

Biggest convention in history?

Yeah, right. So they claim.

If they aren't lying (they could be- hey, they're the Liebrano$$$, after all!), then I wonder how they pulled this off? I mean, it's just implausible. Not too many folks really give a crap for the LPC these days, or are members, either, unless you count dead people and pussycats, for example.

Maybe they bribed folks somehow. Maybe they called in some zombie moonbat forces to artificially boost the numbers (there's a significant and influential moonbat faction in the LPC, after all).

Hmm... wonder if there was free beer? That'd do it! It's worked in the past! And the thongs and condoms likely gave the atmosphere a titillatingly exciting feel, prompting attendees to call their friends in, etc.

Maybe it was really just some big, brainless moonbat rave and not a serious political convention. Yep. Could be!

Yep. These folks are qualified to lead a big, complex federation. Suuuuure. Can anyone name one decent policy that came out of the convention that one finds the least bit useful? Nah... just a lot of leftist stuff, like lowering the age of consent for riding the Hershey Highway and the warm-and-fuzzy, crocodile-tears, false-compassion obligatory "Liberal" lip service stuff about the homeless and the poor and so on. Sounds no less leftist than the NDP!

Lee you asked what I think is wrong with Harper. Not complete but here goes. At the outset he insulted me and I beleive every conservative by taking a liberal into cabinet. At the same time appointing a senator and then putting a nonelected person in cabinet.
The final that turned the switch to off is non comunication. It has become obvious to me that he is just like the lib's and dippers, if your com's are not patting him on the back he doesent want to know. this strain runs through the CPC in Alberta and B.C. Proof, during the summer, after several letters and e-mails I sent him a last e-mail. I also copied all MP's in Alberta and B.C. except 3, 1 for obvious reasons and 2 because I screwed up address's. Do you know that I received only ONE thats right ONE reciept of mail response. When I can't comunicate with a government I'm certainly not going to support them.
Through the 70's and 80's I voted against the liberals. I used to believe that it was every ones responsibility to vote. I was glad when the Reform came along, it gave me something to vote for.
Now with the new politicans first law I can't even protest vote because some crook gets an extra $1.70 "whatever" and anything more than zerro is way too much.

Hey Tony W,

Non-communication? Prime Minister Stephen Harper?

He just doesn't use the MSM to communicate, and why would he? They just twist everything he says anyway.

You want to hear what the Canadian Government and the Prime Minsiter are doing? Here's the link to subscribe to his notices and speeches. I get more than a few of each from the PM's Office every week and know far more about what he's doing and saying than I ever would if I relied only on the Probe and Fail, the Red Star, the Commie Bored Corpse, the MSM in other words.

3ws.pm.gc.ca/eng/default.asp

Scroll down, and on the left you'll see a photo of PMSH on the phone; click on the photo, which says "Join the PM's E-Mail List" and you'll be hearing far more about what the government is doing than you EVER did when the Liberals were in power, even with their fawning toadies in the PPG.

I am waiting for the results of the first ballot, to see how many voted, and then how many don't vote on the rest. Those free booze parties will have priority, and a bunch of drunks with hangovers, overuse of red condoms and red thongs will elect a liberal leader. And they say Harper is scary. Will these delegates use those props to take part in the world orgasim for peace on Dec 20. Yes, there is such a thing going on.

Been around the block. You missed the point. Read my comment at 10:29am and my last one. Comunication isn't being preached to its Q & A. When I can't get the answer to a question or in this case even an acknowledgement that the questions been asked, I tune out. Because of this the CPC has lost my vote.
My assurtain that the CPC will not win again is based on past elections. The CPC won minority last time because of the ineptness of the weasel Martin and because the media turned against him. I believe that at one point the CPC was headed for a majority until the media "came to their senses". The media will not let this happen again. They will go all out liberal suport from the outset, I give you what is happening now.

"I believe that at one point the CPC was headed for a majority until the media "came to their senses". The media will not let this happen again. They will go all out liberal suport from the outset, I give you what is happening now."

If that happens, I'm afraid Canada is done. Alberta is getting restless...

"If that happens, I'm afraid Canada is done. Alberta is getting restless..."

Spoken by a man who obviously loves his country more than I do.

Tony W: "I believe that at one point the CPC was headed for a majority until the media 'came to their senses'. The media will not let this happen again. They will go all out liberal suport from the outset..."

You're probably right, and then, as multirec says, Canada's done like a dinner.

On the other hand, if ex-CPC supporters like you jump ship because you don't get an answer to your questions from the PM's office (the Libs sure as heck never gave a straight answer to any questions being asked, and nine times out of ten they lied) then the CPC definitely haven't a snowball's hope in H*ll of getting a majority, let alone a minority.

So, who are you going to vote for, Tony?