Watch it, Kate. The little sissy might sue you.

I just happened to be driving to get lunch (Adler was on QR77) and heard the name "Kate" (Is it? Maybe. Never heard her voice before.) and then a careful (as to a child) description of hits vs readers, started laughing, and thought, that's gotta be Kate and this will be on her site when I get back to work.

And so it was.

Ha!

He was right about one thing; it's not about how many people look at your site, it's that the right people look at your site. Persuade them and things happen. Right, SoWs?

Kate, if stats turn you on, great. I don't care. Knock yourself out.

I do note, however, that you've declined to tell your readers that you permitted posting here from people saying my children deserve to be raped, and so on. I mentioned that during the show, and you kind of went silent, at that point.

Anyway. Good luck to you, in your quest for bigger and better statistics.

Silly me.

I thought this was going to be about David Warren - that's to say, someone interesting with something different to say.

Turns out it was Warren Kinsella.

YAWN...

I know Warren is afraid of links, but could he at least point us in the direction of this "guest blogger" who allegedly said such terrible things?

Ah right. Being female, I tend to forget.

Size doesn't matter

But speaking of the comment you referenced during the interview, do you recall linking approvingly to Canadian Cynic?

http://canadiancynic.blogspot.com/2005/07/situational-logic-right-wing-style.html

And you were just as gracious in airbrushing that post and delinking him.

I'd call it even. :)

It wasn't a guest blogger. It was a commentor (now banned). There have been over 113,000 reader comments made to SDA, and that was the only one which he found worthy of complaining about.

Warren:

In the spirit of full disclosure here's my stats:

http://tomax7.com/Stats/mystats.htm

;-b

Enjoy both blog sites---you are both bright, literate individuals. Let's leave it at that, shall we?

I listened to a portion of that today - good on you.

atta way to go Kate...we were driving from Melfort to St.Brieux where we reside and I told my wife, hey I think that's OUR KATE, sure even it was great how you stumped poor Kinsella and you're right these guys start talking and just about pass out cause they do not quit talking cause you might then be able to "say something" but they do not give you a chance............atta girl we are proud of you......we go to your site daily and many times more than once a day to see what is happening thanks again

Ah, priceless...

Kate sprinkled some Holy Water of Truth upon the Prince of Darkness...

"Ouch!" Spake the Prince...

Heh! :b

Hey, is that the same Warren Kinsela who plays teh bass for "The Receding Hairlines"?

relapsedcatholic.blogspot.com/2006/11/woo-hoo-i-drive-warren-kinsella-crazy.html

Doesn't anyone have an MP3 of this show I can download? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Bass player in a punk band - thud thud thud thud! What's up, couldn't master the triangle?

"Bass player in a punk band - thud thud thud thud! What's up, couldn't master the triangle?"

Thats actually a mildly amusing line...and yet is irrelevant at the same time since Punk was/is never about talent....

Good line though....

Good Lord,

That's wild, Kate. I get about 200, and that's after the infamous SDA linkage fiasco (I was about 150/day prior). Like Kinsella, at least I have massive growth potential... you're topped out :)

My favorite "offense" against ad hominem argument: "I agree; I AM a miserable excuse for a human being...Now, exactly how does this prove me wrong?"

Warren - step one to making friends (and influencing people): having the grace to admit you are wrong when you ARE wrong.

Kate, by observation, is rarely required to do this.

Good gravey Kate. You could have left him his shorts, for dignity's sake . (O:}

Glad you where on. They where making fun of most bloggers(conservative), as a bunch of old guys living with Mom in the basement, blogging in there undies.

The fact christy Clark, (What a perky name) implied most blogs where male. Which we all know is complete tripe.

The imlication as well that most bloggers just started there own media because there nuts. The inendo was conservatives, libertarians, et all. Are just imagining progresives in the media have been in a conspiracy towards them to shut out real news.

Gee I wonder how that slander started?

They had a good laugh over that thought without even exploring it. There journalists after all. Thanks Kate, for standing up to be counted.

Sean: Go to the CJOB website(linked on Adler's name) and click into the audio vault. All the past shows should be available for listening. Way to go Kate! Any chance of a televised mud-wrestling match live on pay-per-view with you and Warren?

I'm just holding my breath waiting for his hordes of devoted followers to descend. So far, the only one coming to Kinsella's defense is ... Kinsella.

Although Kate is my favourite and first read of the day [ slight crush involved here]
I enjoy Warrens' insight from a Liberal perspective and also because he is not afraid to call his own party on some of their bullshit.
"Please keep all toys in the sandbox"

Doesn't anyone have an MP3 of this show I can download? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Posted by: Sean at November 23, 2006 05:14 PM

Yes, is there anywhere that the shows are archived?

I also enjoyed Christy Clarks' hosting way more than Adler

Thanks, mrtisaduffer

Well, in any event, he gets more hits than I do.

Kinsella who? NEVER heard of him. Must be one of those MSM types that do nothing but lie, lie, LIE!

The "quarter million readers a day" consisted of these referrers:

tinyurl.com/yygxf7

Do you see why I can't do an excerpt?

A most respectable comment by ian...yes in spite of his Liberal blood, he can pose interesting points of view...I skip the SFH stuff.

The CJOB audio vault, today, start around 2:46...

My impression of SDA and Kinsellas blogs are that Kate is concerned with being correct factually and consistent ideologically whereas Warren is concerned with "winning".

When one bases their arguements and ideological posistions on simply winning then one does really not stand for anything at all. Win at all costs truth be damned sums up Kinsella well, and it is perhaps why he is a successful lawyer.

But like a typical GTA liberal, Warrens position will be whatever is good for him today, yesterdays position being relegated to the dust bin.

Or as Warren said himself

"· Conservatives' ideology is their ideology: tax cuts, law and order, and so on. That kind of stuff. The Liberal ideology is, to be blunt, winning. Grits like to win, and they've had a lot of practice at winning. They're good at it. Right now, they're miserable, sure, because they LOST. But there's no better motivator for a Liberal than a loss. It gets them to where they most like to be: with their foot on a Conservative or New Democrat windpipe, watching them gasp for air until Election Day. That's when Liberals are happiest. It makes them smile. "

Posted by Warren Kinsella on 6/21/2006 10:28:56 AM
Permalink

And thus in a single paragraph Warren illustrates why Liberal Party members are valueless, ideologically bankrupt, empty suits.

"...and yet is irrelevant at the same time since Punk was/is never about talent...."

Kind of like being in politics.

*snort*

I listen to QR77 everyday...allday while I'm banging siding on the wall. Christy Clark is without a doubt the sleaziest Liberal apologist I've ever heard on the chorus radio network.

Yesterday she was gushing all over Eddie Goldenberg and his fascinating insights into the Cretin regime. Puke...barf...

Today she identifies WK as the "premier blogger" in all of Canada. Double puke...double barf.

When I heard she had Kate on as a supposed counterpoint I hung on every word. What did ya get Kate.....15 seconds? Yet you managed to verbally bitch slap that smarmy punk. Good on ya!

I know you didn't get a chance to respond to the "rapin the kids" thing. But I got cut off to.

Slimey, sleazy, synchophants.

Synchro

P.S. You're welcome....keep showing the truth.

Christy Clark is a local fill-in on cknw radio here. Her husband is a big shot federal liberal organizer. She's LIBERAL through and through, a real pain in the ass.

Just for fun - from 3w.alexa.com ... traffic rankings.

SDA tinyurl.com/yhf8wv

178,446

WK tinyurl.com/ydqxxw

277,198

"And thus in a single paragraph Warren illustrates why Liberal Party members are valueless..."
Indeed, Ward, kinsella unwittingly provides an insight into a truly vile group of people. I know he doesn't get it, but maybe some liberals are sufficiently ethically empowered to object to his description. Or maybe he gets them horny...

Just for the hell of it I went to Kinsella's site to see what the fuss was about. I may be wrong, but I noticed that there were no comments enabled. Perhaps if he did allow it he would have more action. However, his weak little stab about an anon poster regarding children and rape is definetley weak sauce and proves that he wouldn't be able to handle a comment section. I mean my God, even Mc-la-la-land allows comments on his blog

Keep it up Kate, you are my first blog stop of the day.

Warren K ssid:
"I do note, however, that you've declined to tell your readers that you permitted posting here from people saying my children deserve to be raped, and so on. I mentioned that during the show, and you kind of went silent, at that point."

Warren K caught in a lie. Changes the subject and becomes the victim. You can just hear the high pitched tantrum if you where face to face with him.

The original lie about stats., of course is to attract readers because hey this is a busy site.

We finally puked them out of office because of this garbage. They just don't get it. He dosn't think people can see through this crap.

That either of you - Kinsella or Kate whoever you are - believe truly that you have significant influence on public policy is testament to the insular and delusional little world that this blogosphere has become - like minded people congregating to become even more rigid in their thinking.

I check things from time to time to see what the shrillest partisans on both sides are spouting, thus my lurking here and there from time to time.

No fan of Kinsella, but recall that he did have an actual public role at one point while Kate did not, though this does not indicate any particular "merit" or advantage in this little pissing match.

If blogs like these on all sides really influence public policy then we are in even more trouble than I thought.

Kate, heard you today on the car radio. Great to hear your voice,too bad we couldn't hear more of you and less of whimps like Kinsella or the great Lieberals like Christy Clark. I thought old Warren was going to blow a gasket trying to keep talking so you couldn't get a word in edgeways.Have you noticed that is the Lieberal way, blah,blah,blah with nothing to say. Just chasing their tails round and round. First Warren said that bloggers have nothing to say then he contradicts himself by telling everyone they can get their voice heard by starting a blog!Make up your mind Warren.

I just happened to have the radio on in the truck today as well, and had a good laugh when hearing a caller Kate pop the great ego bubble, then finding out it was you, funny as hell, you did well.

Influence public policy? Me?

Good God, man - pay attention. This political stuff is what I do to fill time while waiting for penis news to break.

Oh dear. This comment is _so_ destined for the spam filter.

Kate, if "they" ever do allow cloning people can I have two of you, and one Michelle Malkin just so I don't ever have to listen to people like that again. I like dogs.

canadian,

You would be what? ... the honest broker?

From now on your name is Sally.

Amazing. Simply amazing. Kate, of small dead animals and of small town fame, is calling the great Canadian mainstream media to task and they do not like it one bit. Tough.

Kate,12000+ hits/day, MacMillan is the Sheila Fraser of the MSM. A service more essential than the Auditor General's. Not a stretch at all. The AG can save us money, Kate is saving our Democracy.

Take it easy on Warren. He has had a bad couple of days, running out of ammo. Chretien no-nation,.. ah, Dion-no-nation, .. well, ah Rae no-nation then. And after all, with the copp's help, he ousted PMPM in favour of PMSH.

the reason that that phoney adler or didler whatever his name has that christy clark was on is that she is no threat to his pathetic show like roy green is. he is such a loser and old mother that gets her two sons fighting and then screams stop when they do, that he puts a toronto idiot on to not show him up. his phoney accent is enough for me to turn him off every day, i listen for pertinent topics but the size of david millers gaunch and that girly man warren kinsellas choice of latte makes me run to cjay or something like Q107

Thanks, I always am interested in people with ideas.

Is Christy’s brother Bruce, a federal liberal executive member, still under criminal investigation?

When Judges let Pedophiles loose, again and again, is that worse than saying I hope your children get raped ??

Talk about deflating. I thought I was seeing things. You could almost hear the air rushing out of McGuinty amd Miller, standing there, on stage, WITH Prime Minister Steven Harper. Either they are far better men than I thought(citizens before politics) or the PM had a gun in His pocket.

from hoaxbware:
"Kate,12000+ hits/day, MacMillan is the Sheila Fraser of the MSM. A service more essential than the Auditor General's. Not a stretch at all. The AG can save us money, Kate is saving our Democracy."

and a resounding HERE HERE to that.

without DEMOCRACY, most citizens will LOSE their cash at an accelerating rate. ROBBED be those in power. look at ANY dictatorship since before the beginning of civilization.

HERE HERE to Katherine.

I just thought of something, perhap mr "quarter million" kinsella is booting for a spot on the blog nominations. LOL !!!

also in the category of comic relief: got a call mr lieberal pearson's support team today regarding the byelection: (cant repeat what vitriol gushed from my lips to their ear regarding adscam still fresh in my mind).

FYI Christy Clark is a long time provincial liberal MLA who was deputy premier when she resigned after having a baby. She then ran for mayor of Vancouver but lost the party nomination to Sam Sullivan. Her brother is Bruce Clark (Federal liberal executive) and husband Mark Marrisen (Federal liberal organizer) were both questioned in an ongoing investigation about influence pedaling – neither was implicated.

Her husband worked for years as Paul Martin’s chief BC organizer resulting in the Martin team taking over control of the majority of liberal riding associations. When Martin won Mr. Christy Clark was riding high making big bucks after years of being in the wilderness. When Harper won, Mr. Christy Clark was out of work and is now an adviser to one of the leadership candidates.

Any comments Christy Clark makes on federal politics should be viewed from the perspective that Stephen Harper cost her husband his cushy job and could be why Ms. Christy Clark is now working as a talk show host.

Why do media people never disclose their blatant conflicts of interest yet demand this from everyone else?

from whatever canadian:
"but recall that he did have an actual public role at one point while Kate did not, though this "

you dont get it sir; 'public' role by what definition ????

the blogosphere has CREATED a heretofore non-existant PUBLIC PLACE., ergo, true Kate has not had a 'role' in your 'public place' she assuredy has one NOW in the newly minted 'public place' of the blogosphere.

kinsella doesnt get it either; he attempts to parlay his percieved influence in the highly manipulated old school 'public place' into what are hyperinflated numbers. brought to our attention by Kate who has demonstrated the principle of ummm, 'displacement'.

HERE HERE on you Katherine !!!

Kate...perhaps you could write a book. Call it:

"Kicking Ass in the Canadian Blogosphere"

Put a picture of Warren's butt on the cover, and a black stilletto ready to punt him.

:)

Didn't the great Warren K run for the Liebrano$ in North Vancouver a few years back, lost badly and got punted back to the center of the universe?

Or was it he was so badly hurt by us ungratefull westerners that he had to crawl back under daddy Cretins skirt so we wouldn't see him cry.

Winning at any cost as warren says in the referenced post is the Liebrano$ way. Lie, cheat, steal, brown paper bags stuffed with stolen taxpayers money, anything is okay in Liebrano land as long as they win. Go warren, you rock!

Surfing history is also available, but you knew that anyway.

Someone in the household is *adventurous*. Probably visiting teen friends one would guess. = TG

TG

Implied debauchery? That's all you got?

Syncro

Kate, I don't comment here often, but SDA is the second place I go every day (after Tim Blair). You are performing a valuable service as well as providing a forum to those of us who don't believe in labels. I consider myself to be a "common-sensist"; neither right or left.

I'm sure that Mr Kinsella is salveagable material. He just needs to abandon obsessive committment to a political party and open himself up to logic, common sense and objectivity.

Perhaps we could all chip in and buy him a copy of "America Alone".

Thanks, Kate

An interesting process for looking at who is reading who and how often is to look at the Alexa rankings.

Kate is doing just fine to look at those rankings.

NNL

Warren, oh oh. Ah, now Dion's key supporters, from Quebec no-less, jumping on the Ignatief nation-wagon. Get ready to duck Kate.

Poster above may be correct. WK may be salvageable, after all he saw through Paul.

RE: -I'm sure that Mr Kinsella is salveagable material.

The key concerns regarding salvage material are structural integrity and ability to hold up under stress. The cost of salvage and all the expensive labour for any custom work must also be factored in. /half sarc

Mr. Kinsellas' complaints about any threats on himself or his family are valid and understandable. But IMHO, Mr. Kinsella is spinning his complaint in the wrong direction. Kate called him about his web site numbers and he responded by trying to associate her with people who would attack children. WTF?

IMO, Warren, your behavior on this issue does not exactly -Kick Ass-. It is more like an attempted kneecapping. However Kate McMillan is a little fast on her skates for that and you are looking a bit like Tanya Harding here.

Also concrete, which is worse. Supporting a Political Party that appoints Judges who turn Pedophiles loose, again and again, OR wishing a child gets raped. One is deplorable the other is criminal.

That version of events is the correct one. I had initially forgotten that he requested his comment be deleted via private email... at about the same time I got one from Mr. Kinsella threatening to launch the "biggest lawsuit in the history of the Dominion".. against someone he knew only as "ebt".

http://www.warrenkinsella.com/stats/usage_200601.html

Ward,
ward at November 23, 2006 07:02 PM

Found this quote;
**
Or as Warren said himself,

*· Conservatives' ideology is their ideology: tax cuts, law and order, and so on. That kind of stuff. The Liberal ideology is, to be blunt, winning. Grits like to win, and they've had a lot of practice at winning. They're good at it. Right now, they're miserable, sure, because they LOST. But there's no better motivator for a Liberal than a loss. It gets them to where they most like to be: with their foot on a Conservative or New Democrat windpipe, watching them gasp for air until Election Day. That's when Liberals are happiest. It makes them smile. *

Posted by Warren Kinsella on 6/21/2006 10:28:56 AM
Permalink **

Liberal Metods:

Recalling the attempt to shut down the Dominion Epaper in Halifax with Low voices and heavy leagal threats from the PMO*s office. Documentd by the Dominion guys who did NOT blink.

Recalling the methods used to swamp Andrew Coyne*s comments and him not having the time to edit out the dirt.

Liberals do tend to be heavy handed. = TG

Thankyou for the link, "Kate lies".

It's the same page I provided in the original post - and if you read closely, you'll discover Warren Kinsella's highest traffic during the federal election occured on Jan 19th, with just over 18,800 visits recorded.

He implied in his on-air interview that he had a quarter million readers a day - and presented the information in the context of a newspaper publisher astonishment that his exceeded that of national newspapers.

He's not the only one who inflates his traffic by counting "hits" as though they were individual readers. Until yesterday, he had plausable deniability - though claiming ignorance of the technology is pretty lame.

Now, he doesn't. And he should get his facts straight before he presumes to speak with any authority about the "blogosphere".

Easy, isn't it Kate. First Wells, now Kinsella. When one always has the truth on their side, kicking butt is easy.

The Elite and the MSM has been at it so long, they don't even realize when they lie. Before the Blogs no one ever called them on it either. And of course, the so called blogs WITHOUT a comments section, .. well, I guess we now know why.