That letter should be forwarded to every Conservative MP.

Apples and oranges.

I personally don't care a hoot regarding Belinda but comparing an auto parts manufacturer to a political party doesn't make too much sense.

The list of differences is much longer than the list of similarities.

Sounds like sour grapes on the part of D. Coulter.

Lovely! I hope you track the responses to this! Was wondering if anyone watched cbc coverage this a.m re:same-sex marriage debate.It seemed the "equal"and fair coverage of the Pro/Con sides was very heavily tipped toward...oh,go ahead and guess! The Con side was,from blurb I saw..and I really can't stomach too much cbc at a time,minimal to say the least.Yet,the Pro side got lots of time,3-4 speakers at the mike.Wander over to the cbc website,readers letters,see comment section re same.I tried posting..will see if it goes up.Was told by my MP to start sending letters/e-mails direct to Bev Oda to complain about cbc..they need to compile lots of complaints,then maybe something can be done. Sammy

Sammy,

This is not a forum or a repository for off-topic dumps.

Sour grapes? Apples & oranges? Hardly! Belinda is paying lip service to female equality, and poorly at that. She's quick to point the finger, but slow to act herself. After all, that's HER money we're talking about. If she can't get even ONE female on the board, that's shameful. Sadly, we won't see the CBC hounding her about any glaring systemic sexist or inequality issues at Magna.

Maybe the women working at Magna have more morals tha bs has.

To butcher a phrase: There are fools, and then there are damned fools.

Does anyone else remember Belinda's ignominious entree into politics, when she stepped to the podium, got the crowd quiet, then realized her teleprompter wasn't working? She just stood there blankly, like a deer caught in the headlights, in front of a completely silent room. Couldn't even come up with a simple joke or even a "hello"! And to think it's all been downhill from there.

If Peter McKay had cojones, he would have simply said to the media: "I didn't insult all women...I just called Stronach a bitch."

The Conservative Party of Canada is the only party in the history of Canada that has ever had a female Prime Minister.
Top that you Libs, oh and shaddup.

doowleb,

Here's the topper.

Kim Campbell was set up for a fall by Mulroney.

When all other Conservatives were running for the hills Mulroney as a big joke set up Kim to take the final brunt for the most hated government in Canadian history.

A true story...a couple of years later I stopped and talked to him (Mulroney) and Milla on a beach in Mexico, he was still holding his side from laughter.

No, david brown, you are the one who is not making sense.
What is the difference between an auto parts manufacturer and a government (and not simply a political party)?
Both are involved in making short term and long term decisions - economic, legal, and political decisions, based on a knowledge of products, services, economic capacity etc.

I am sure you are not implying that a woman cannot make decisions about an auto parts manufacturing company because 'cars are for men not women'. So, what's the difference between the two?

Sammy - I think your point about CBC bias is valid on this thread, because the fact that Stronach has herself claimed that she is speaking for all Canadian women in her claim about poor political representation in parliament etc, - in comparison to her own company's total lack of women on the board, has not been publicized in the MSM.

There is another story out today where people who KNIT are offended by Belinda's remarks about knitters as offensive, sexist (as there are many male knitters) and predjudice making knitters appear to be old fashioned "unequal" in society. She insulted all knitters in the house last week and also in her autobiography.

Apples and oranges???

It's nonesense to suggest that because women weren't 'blessed' with a penis that they can't fulfil almost every role within a car parts company. I view myself as a bit of a chauvanist(sp?) but I am very respectful of their capabilities.
Frankly, Ms. Stronach has been accused of a number of things but I've never heard anyone suggest for a minute that she actually did a good job working for Magna. This has NOTHING to do with the fact that she's female.

David Brown the name suits, your so full of it your eyes are probably brown. Mulroney was regressive Conservative and going into the election they were ahead in the poll's. The back stabber Kim lost the election all by herself.

ET,

The cracks are starting to show in your logic.

If you had ever worked in the auto parts industry (I did for 8 years) then you would know that your similarities are not that similar at all.

Besides, to get on the board of directors you generally have to be appointed. Appointees are selected usually because they own large stock positions. I'm sure woman do own Magna stock but prefer their husbands or proxies to sit in on boring stuffy meetings rather than waste their own time.

Women are more than capable executives but the auto parts industry is dominated by men.

Hear Hear ET...I was just about to catch DB on his implication that on the basis of his "apples and oranges" statement women must not be qualified to make important decisions within the auto industry...such a sexist posting from a lefty

You want apples and oranges...how about BS saying quite clearly that McKay's QP comment was a knock against all women....what a load of crap. I know a lot of women, and thankfully none of them have any of BS's personality traits.

I must say that I did read in the paper that McKay did apologize to BS, but in such a high pitch that only she could hear.

TGIF: BS had a long week in the boardroom*. Fairytale? Well, hows about Rumplestiltskin?

Belinda Stronach's quote, "I don't sit at home and knit Friday nights" ...-

*boardroom: the close-knit group of (male?) advisers surrounding ex-Liberal PM, Paul Martin, Jr. Paul, Jr., was impotant(!), indeed.

The Liberals gave their only female leadership candidate 1% of the vote. The rest of them didn't run probably because they knew it would be a complete waste of time and money. I mean, when they'd rather have Bob Rae and his disastrous record as premier than a woman, what realistic chance does a woman ever have of leading that party? If any party is an Old Boys Club (emphasis on old), it's the Liberal Party.

Tony W.

Are you talking about the same election?

Popular support for the Mulroney-Kim-Conservatives was below 10% when they were blown into oblivion losing official party status altogether.

The Conservatives of Brian Mulroney have little to do with the current.

The BM PCs were just like the libs, the country run at the intersection of Bay Street and Sussex drive. The consequences were the splintering of the PCs into the Joe Clark conservatives(patsy pseudolibs) the Bloq (psuedoseparatists) and reform ( the progressives) . The resulting merger of course left out the palm up socialist maritime libs until the empty suit(P.McK) jumped on board. one thing you can give to Paris Stronach, she did start some dialogue.

Bucky,

Why is so important to catch me?

By keeping an open mind you'll learn more.

Liberals are hyprcrites, at least the Conservative party, et al can say they have had a woman as their leader, Elsie Wayne(Interim) and Kim Campbell.

The NDP can say the same, Audrey McLauglin and Alexa McDonough.

And the Liberals....(insert sound of crickets).

I guess Liberals want women in the party as long as their not in charge. Sounds like Magna.

DB you should make sure your brain is running before you put your mouth in geer. Mulroney turned over a party that was ahead in the polls. It was all Kim and the liberal media that lost it.

Tony W.

Are you talking about the same election?

Popular support for the Mulroney-Kim-Conservatives was below 10% when they were blown into oblivion losing official party status altogether.
Posted by: David Brown at October 24, 2006 12:59 PM

Actually Kim lost the election herself.

Remember the "let's make fun of Jean Cretien's physical disability campaign".

It was a complete disaster that she never recovered from.

Voters are funny that way.

How many women tried for the leadership of the libs. How many are left and what %age of votes did she get. Talk about a sexist party with no respect for women. And, how many women were voting at these delegate meetings. Did they vote for a woman? Another company suffering from being off the gravy train. Big job losses in Montreal at Bombardier.

She wants an apology for all Canadian women:
I mentioned the current issue to my Mother, Sister, Girlfriend & 21yr Old Niece. My niece spoke for all when she put as.
" B.S is nothing more then a 2 faced skank & if anyone should apologize, B.S should. Apologize to her Constituants, The Domi Family & all Canadian Women (and that's for thinking that she is defending Women's rights)"

Kitchener Conservative,

The first female president of the USA could very well be a liberal Democrat.

Just because there hasn't been a woman Liberal leader doesn't mean there couldn't be 3 in a row in the future.

David Brown said:

"If you had ever worked in the auto parts industry (I did for 8 years) then you would know that your similarities are not that similar at all.

Besides, to get on the board of directors you generally have to be appointed. Appointees are selected usually because they own large stock positions. I'm sure woman do own Magna stock but prefer their husbands or proxies to sit in on boring stuffy meetings rather than waste their own time.

Women are more than capable executives but the auto parts industry is dominated by men."

And your point is? Politics is dominated by men. The auto parts industry is dominated by men. BS was the head of a major company and she took no steps to correct the imbalance. Today's word is "hypocrite".

David Brown,

should of, could of, would of. Who cares.

I guess you're clairvoyant now.

The Liberals could also elect a monkey as their leader, oops they did that already.

Who cares about the US. They could easily elect a republican. Condi Rice is a good example.

david brown - the fact that you worked in the auto parts industry for years doesn't validate your opinion that women cannot function as executives in that industry.

Whether the industry is making lace nighties, publishing Harlequin Romances, researching and producing pharmaceuticals, or manufacturing radio parts or car parts - it's an industry and has to be based around similar economic concepts of resources, manufacture, sales etc. So, the gender of the executive is utterly irrelevant. There are a lot of women PHDs in Economics, a lot with MBAs, etc.

Are you actually trying to claim that a woman cannot 'understand' the car industry???

Your comment that women might own stock, but prefer 'their husbands or proxies' to sit in on boring meetings' - shows your own ignorance and obvious sexist bias.
By the way, would you provide some proof that this is the case about women, wanting their husbands, to sit in on the meeting? Proof? Evidence?

"As of the most recent Magna annual report, of 12 board members, there are no women. And of 25 senior executives, there [are] zero women." Boy, I'll bet that keep Belinda busy, if you get my drift....wink, wink, nudge, nudge!

"Women are more than capable executives but the auto parts industry is dominated by men"

Well David Brown,i've worked in the auto industry for 30 years and that statement is complete bull.Go into the exec offices of the big automakers and you will find women in many prominent positions.

Looks like you opened your mouth without thinking and made a sexist remark.I'm sure you will apologize right away for such glaring sexism.

"And of 25 senior executives, there [are] zero women."

""Women are more than capable executives but the auto parts industry is dominated by men"

See how your words came back to haunt you.

Some get DB a ladder...he's dug himself into a big hole.

Better yet, let's all get some shovels and complete the burial of this guy.

I have called the CBC talkback line several times demanding they ask bs to apologize to women for her immoral behaviour, and saying she speaks for all women. She doesn't speak for me or any other women I know. I also asked them why, if the libs are so open to women, and not sexist, why Martha only got 1% support to be leader. Anyone know why all the e-mail addresses at the end of an article can't be accessed. Guess they don't want to know what people really think.

RE: Belinda puts down knitters.

That sure reminds me of the famous Hillary Clinton quote.

"I could have stayed home & baked cookies & had teas, but what I decided to do is fulfill my profession. The work I have done has been aimed to assure women can make choices."

It generated an angry response from many women. Hillary Clinton then claimed she actually HAD done her share of the baking and the serving.

"I’ve made my share of cookies and served hundreds of cups of tea. It never occurred to me that my comment would insult mothers who choose to stay home with their children."

We need people like D.Coulter, BryanR and his family members running this country.

Its a shame people spend so much time reporting and discussing the life of Belinda Stronach. She is simply not worth it. She brings nothing to the discussion of politics and does nothing to bring more women into politics.

One word describes Liberals on the subject of women, HYPOCRITES.
Belinda S. is in the same category for standing up and reading the Liberal scripture in the House.
She knows it's bu**s**t propaganda, if she doesn't she's out of her league.

I have this mental image of somewhere out in cyberspace DB, agitfact, bob, BCL, maryjane and the others are sitting around when a bell rings that Kate has posted again. They check a list to see who is next and that troll is delegated to comment against whatever is said. The rest keep score of how many bloggers try to respond to the troll and the one with the most wins the pot.

So running a government is nothing like running a business? Come on now Mr Brown, that explains the problems for the last 13 years under the Lieberals. I gather that Mrs Brown lets you blog for her too since you already handle her stock portfolio.

Conservative Epitaph

Confusion

David Brown you are still operating in a Librano$ mindset.

Your statement that board appointments “are made because they own large stock positions” is right out a Neanderthal Librano$ Manuel “How to control an interventionist economy with very little of your own skin on the line and by using other peoples money to self-deal”. The Manuel comes complete with book jacket comments by Magna, Power and Bombardier.

The good news is that modern Boards choose people (men and woman) based on talent (versus Librano$ patronage) and they try to end up with a diversity of talent on their Board. Often this means the new Board member had nothing to do with the company in the past and therefore holds zero shares, although they are encouraged to buy some shares once on the Board.

The bad news is some investors rightly complain that Directors these days don’t have enough “skin in the game” as you old fossils like to say. Anyway like a true Librano, you’ve got it backwards.

Texas,

Mrs. Brown is CFO of an Ontario Corporation and a big fan of Paul Martin.

Where do you think I get my pro Liberal leanings from.

She handles my stock portfolio and does an excellent job.

Conservative Epitaph

Confusion

Posted by: David Brown at October 24, 2006 02:30 PM

WOW, that's awesome man. Did you come up with that yourself of did one of you classmates think that gem up for you. Makes you wonder what they're teaching in grade 5 these days.

How about this one

Liberal Epitaph:
Lie, Steal, Pardon, Appoint to office

Kitchener Conservative,

Truly amazing and very conservative...Accuse somebody of something then turn around and do the very same thing yourself.

Have you not been reading all the posts regarding hypocrites?

David Brown:
“If you had ever worked in the auto parts industry (I did for 8 years) then you would know that your similarities are not that similar at all. Women are more than capable executives but the auto parts industry is dominated by men"

I’m sure you are sincere about this. Was the auto parts industry you were employed in a wrecking yard perhaps?
If you ever claim to have worked in the court system, please mention if you mean food court.

It is unfortunate Belinda gets so much media time. It must be aggravating to all the hardworking and talented MP’s of all political parties who are continually upstaged by the likes of her and the Garth Turner types.

David Brown commented "apples and oranges". Should have said "two sets of rules - one for Liberals and one for the rest of us". Mr. Brown, both Magna and the government are Canadian organizations. Who cares what they do when you are discussing the principle of women in senior positions? Belinda is a self-serving hyprocrite.

I'm wondering if one day we're all going to wake up and find that Kate has been having a big chuckle by being David Brown.... Nahh!!!!

I noticed there's no KateNews(tm) symbol ;)

We now know why DB has so much time on his hands. His wife is the breadwinner and makes all the decisions. He reminds me of the joke about the end of the world. St Peter asks all the men who were henpecked to stand in one line, and explain why they ignored his rules. One lone man, (probably DB) stood in the line of non henpecked husbands. St Peter starts to congratulate him, and asks why he was in that line. My wife told me to stand here, he replied.

DB,

Caught the Robert Fripp reference. I'm a big fan too.

Belinda is the Hillary of Canadian politics, nobody gets under the conservative skin more.

Amazing.

As for the BS being a hypocrite, on that issue for sure. If she didnt do anything while she was "in power" then she cant really go about casting stones can she. Not that this matters to her, definitely SHAMELESS (without shame, or in her case incapable of shame)

We wont even speak about her brother using strippers to support his Shetips business, which is now undergoing a major revamp. Yup the whole fan damily is supportive of women and getting them into positions....but not of power.

D Brown, you sound like you have an intelligent wife, why you would be fooled by the likes of BS I cant speak to. Anyway, glad she, BS, is in the Liberal party....you'll learn. I am so looking forward to hearing how she feels Iggy treats her, or even Rae. I cant imagine either of them giving her anything important to do, but her shoes are nice (as Anne McLeallan put it).

Minister of complex files indeed.

Truly amazing and very conservative...Accuse somebody of something then turn around and do the very same thing yourself.
Have you not been reading all the posts regarding hypocrites?
Posted by: David Brown at October 24, 2006 02:50 PM

If being conservative means responding to your retorts, then yes I am.

It'd be great if you only wanted to engage in reasonable debate, but alas you're the type that comes onto blogs like this and spews insults and tries to be confrontational to everyone who is conservative and just doesn't say anything relevant.

I eagerly await your the linguistic gem you're feverishly writing in response so I can ignore it.

Moe,

you mean this one

http://lyrics.rockmagic.net/lyrics/king_crimson/in_the_court_of_the_crimson_king_1969.html#03

Good tune, trippy late 60's lyrics though. But lovely mellotron.

Gosh, if DB meant that reference I'll have to raise my respect level a little....but there is a ceiling because of the Paul Martin reference, that was a shipwreck of a PM. How soon we forget just how confusing Dithers was.

Did anyone read Heather Mallick's column on Belinda in the latest Chatelaine? Her take is basically that Canada is sexist and can't handle a woman leader, so they hate Belinda.

I think it's Mallick who is making the sexist comments here. Assuming that we hate her because she's a woman insinuates that women can't make real judgments. We don't like her because she lies and she cheats and she throws aside principles for power. It's quite simple. To try to boil all that down to gender is ridiculous, and shows how out of touch feminists are.

Comparing Belinda to Hillary is beyond the beyond and a gross insult to Hillary. There's no comparison intellectually. Belinda is a "friend" of Hillary's husband, Bill, though it's probably just a mutual admiration due to similar interests and another chance to get noticed, knowing full well the media are hounds such crap.

Hillary has nothing to be ashamed of in any event.

Speaking of Belinda and knitting, my column, which is now in twelve papers in Canada, talked about this last week. For any who are interested, you can see it here. And yes, I am a knitter. And yes, I thought her "I don't stay at home on Friday nights and knit" comment was stupid, though maybe not for the same reason all knitters did.

Stephen,

Looks like you'll have to raise that respect level, but not too much.

moe,

Robert Fripp was truly a musical visionary with King Crimson. It was like you were listening to music that was yet to be written, 50 years ahead of its time.

Cheri:
Thankyou for the compliment to me & my family, My Mother is a Diehard Knitter, Croche, Nottingham lace .Etc....
She has led the pack for many years at local fall fair competetions, My Mother was diagnosed with breast cancer recently & is being operated on this coming thursday. She has lived for her craft & she will most likely not be able to do her craft for some time while she recovers.
I could not say on here her opinion of BS & iam truly sorry but i run an automotive aftermarket parts & accessories store so my time is filled between here & my brand new girlfriend.
But thanks anyways
And that is no BS

Bryanr: Best wishes to your mother for a speedy recovery so she can get back to her handicrafts.
I also knit, but just for relaxation, and stress relief. Someday I might even finish a project. The best knitter I know is a man. Makes beautiful afghans.

Women are more than capable executives but the auto parts industry is dominated by men.

Finally! So many people have a hard recognizing that there's some areas that are best left to men, and some to women. I'm sure women can be capable execs in certain businesses. Look at how Martha Stewart built a great home/garden style business.

Let's face it though. Auto parts are geared towards men. It's no surprise that most of the execs are men. As well, being stockholders, most women would rather leave financial things like that to their husbands to handle, while they handle equally important, but different things.

Politics is another area where men seem better suited to it. While some women can & have done very well in politics, it's mostly a male profession, particularly at the national level. There's nothing wrong with the fact that most MP's are men, it's simply a reflection of the differences in gender.

Thank you David Brown for taking a refreshing stand on this topic!

Thanks MaryT Appr. your kind thoughts.

"...Magna, of which she is a former CEO"

While it is an excellent observation about the number of women on Magna's board vis Belinda's phony rhetoric ... way too much is made (mostly by Belinda and her supporters) of her having been CEO. She was, but only in name. She was there by nepotism, a puppet CEO while other, qualified executives ran the company.

BryanR; I said that because common sense and decency are sorely lacking in this country. What B.S. did, has done and is doing is a problem of her own making. She is an empty headed, shallow, hypocrite with no values. To profess shock and dissapointment is pathetic. To expect to be taken seriously by anyone is incredulous.

As a mother I feel sorry for her kids. As a wife she is someone I despise. As a politician she is someone who gives others a bad name. As a Canadian I think she is a traitor. She's more like a cat in that she is loyal to no-one but moi. If she had any self respect she would apologize to the Nation, her family, friends, constituents and keep her lip and pants zipped. AND do not EVER run for public office again.

Best wishes to you and your family. Attitude is a big part of success and I can tell you all have great ones. I'll wear pink for your Mom on Thursday. Red on Fri.

Another knitter checking in. I knit almost every night, most mornings and a few afternoons, depending on deadlines.

BS's comment on knitting was stupid, but unsurprising - whatever BS says, the chances of it being stupid are about 99:1.

The woman is a nothing; take away her daddy's money and name and she'd be on welfare. Why are we paying so much attention to her?

Knitters provide something very useful to society. I recall my grandfather telling me if he hadn't received knitted socks from the Salvation Army during the Great War, he would probably have been footless. These socks were knitted by women on the Home Front in support of the men serving overseas on the battlefield.
I cannot think of a more noble thing to do than what they did do to help and assist the men in battle.
Belinda Stronach is an asshole. She does not, and never will be, the woman that those women were.

Just a thought about BS.She loves the photo-ops with Clinton.How could such a savior of womens rights associate with a man who,while married,had sex with with a young intern in the White House.Is that not a lack of respect to Hilary,Monica and the institution of the White House.

And yes Bill a bj does count as sex,not to mention the creative thing with the cigar.

I'm sure woman do own Magna stock but prefer their husbands or proxies to sit in on boring stuffy meetings rather than waste their own time.

Women are more than capable executives but the auto parts industry is dominated by men.

Hats off to David Brown for providing one the most remarkable self-cancelling disconnects. How "capable" is an executive that can't sit through "boring stuffy" meetings? That kind of meetings pretty much go with the landscape of executive duties. Women not making the executive grade by virtue of ADD or frivolity, David? Women are underrepresented in auto parts!!!!

WHOO HOO!!!

David, in case you were trying to make a point about gender bias in the auto parts business, as a female with grown daughters and acquaintances, trust me on this, never was there a day in my life that I can remember any musings about wanting into the auto parts business by any female I've ever known. But, then, my husband, definitely a troglodyte by metrosexual standards, never tried to make his mark in the cake decorating or interior decorating business for which the family is, and the world should be, eternally grateful.

Carry on, David, in the spacing of three posts after mine, you can flit to your next vacuous utterance.

How many caught the cbc montage of sexist remarks made in the past, from Crosby's "baby" to Deb Gray being called a slap of bacon, and even fuddle duddle was mentioned. One thing I noticed is Sheila has certainly put on weight since that baby remark. Is that sexist, sorry, but it is true. How did the libs treat her, that certainly showed respect for women in politics. Lihs eat their own. Notice the media spinning how a defeat in a strong liberal and bloc riding will be a setback for Harper. What if he wins one. Would martin/chretain called these in the same circumstances. Will Kennedy run in London. Who will resign if he or Rae win. Then it could be 180 days before Harper calls an election. Funny, but when our local social credit MP crossed the floor to sit as a liberal and got the agricultural ministership, he was voted out next election, and appointed to the senate. Traitors don't do well in Alberta.

Liz J,

I wasnt comparing BS and HC intellectually. Hillary is a smart woman, no question, BS is....ulm....not as smart as Hillary, to be polite.

THe comparison was on the effect they have on their conservative opponents.

You can guarantee a good series of responses to anything the former minister of complex files is involved in. And Hilary, well put her face on an ad in certain conservative areas and you can guarantee to raise 50% more money.

Thats about the only comparison to be made, oh and that they both probably know what BC looks like in his underwear.

BS rumours circulating that She is not running, but walking to the nearest Exit.

BS will soon be bs? ...-

national newswatch

Runny brown stuff's wife is off slaying dragons, and he's alone all day. And at SDA he gets the attention he craves, people even seem to take him
semi-seriously. I suspect this is a welcome change for him.

My advice to my daughter: don't emulate this vapid, self-absorbed skank - she sets a bad example for young women. My 11 year old gets it.

End of discussion.

Little know fact the lie-beral that mentioned Mr. Peter Mckay's dog, he was the one calling belinda a dog.

Bahaha Bahaha

Didn't pick up on that?

Mr. Brown,

Magna has a dual-class common shareholding structure whereby the Stronach family owns 100% of the class of shares with voting control and the public owns the other class of shares (i.e., non-voting). The importance of this being that the Board is chosen exclusively at the discretion of the Stronach family (it has also been widely criticized by corporate governance advocates). So, unfortunately the argument that females are not on the Board because they don't own shares is assine. The board is selected by Frank (and surely with input from duh, err, Belinda I mean). That's why there are so many Liberals on the board and executive.

The liberal asking about the dog was Daltons brother.

I read this in todays Post Letters:
The Liberals cheered when the Liberal defence minister Doug Young- on the record- called the exceptional female parliamentarian Deb Grey "more than a slab of bacon." Ms. Grey, a hard working MP with an indomitable spirt and natural class, was truely a worthy role model for all Canadian women. Belinda Stronach's depiction as an attention-seeking bimbo has been a retrograde step for the status of all thinking Canadian women. However, the Liberals' reaction to Deb Gray, contrasted by their rush to protect Ms. Stronach, shows their preference for "helpless" females and their fear of real women.

Damn!! I love it when conservatives lay the smackdown on lefties using nothing but facts, and logical thinking. Way to go Bruce, and DCoulter and others.

belinda skank ceo

Magna is also known in the European Union for it's decidedly backward labour practices, especially in its plants in Austria, Frank's homeland.

These facts about Magna should indeed be publicized, for they point up the tendency of arrogant Liberals towards studied hypocrisy.

hah! got a great email today concerning a brand new "leaf blower" and low and behold there's a pic of belinda and tie..wish I knew how to share it
sign me not a nerdish type

Excuse me folks, but as the notice above reminds you, this is not a forum for personal banter.

Do wish people,mainly the socialist activists of the Left would get real. Time to stop the male/female war.
When it comes to jobs, hire the best PERSON for the position. There are strengths and weaknesses in both genders,oops, including the gender non-specifics and bisexuals and whatever.

The Stronach's can hire who/whatever they like, it's their business.
As a politician, Belinda has no real reason to criticize the Conservatives, it's just part of the latest bandwagon the Liberals are getting onto, their cause du jour.

The stupid piffle between egg-head McGuinty and McKay in the house lit the fire and they're trying to fan it. Ignore it.It's desperation to deflect from the latest stupidity in their leadership race a circus at best.

David Brown says you can't compare an auto parts manufacturer to a political party. David, the issue flew very high over your head. The comparison is not what you say it is. The comparison is between a board of a large publically traded company and the Federal cabinet. Follow me on this one. Belinda gets to pick from a huge pool of people when it comes to filling positions on her board. She has the luxury of filling every one of those chairs with women.

Stephen Harper, on the other hand, has only those in his caucus to choose from. Look at Parliament in general. How many women are there in those three hundred and some odd seats? Now look at the Conservative caucus. How many in there? Now, do you see the huge contradiction on Belinda's part?

maz2: Thanks for the tip on BS not running again. That woman, and I use that term "loosely" does not represent the best interests of Canadians, period. The sooner that she is not tarnishing the House of Commons the better.

Belinda's dad Frank Stronach pays no Canadian income tax on his 40-50 million dollar a year salary because he has a castle registered in Switzerland.Imagine all the things SOW and CCP could do with those lost Canadian taxes.

Many of the big hitters in the Liberal Party (female or not) escape paying billions in taxes (Paul Martin, Stronach, etc). Yet the scary 'hidden agenda' of the honest, tax paying, non-multibillionaire Stephen Harper is all we hear about in the media.

I'll tell you what's scary. Even though it's widely know that these Liberals avoid paying millions in taxes, people continue to vote them in.

By the way, I'll buy a round for everyone that has commented here if BS does not run again. She is a joke.

For a fun read on the media and politicians, go read Lorie Goldstein in the Calgary Sun today, comparing all this ado about nothing to a @#$%^soap opera. As for bs not running again, as she wants to travel with slick willie for aids etc, she forgets that come next spring, hillory will be starting her campaign for President. Willy will have to be a *faithful, caring and devoted* husband for at least 5 yrs if she wins. Can't have him off galivanting with bs. She will not break up that marriage, like tie's.

After setting up an imaginary world and commenting on it as though it were fact, David Brown disappears again after having his ass handed to him. But like a dog to it's own vomit, he'll be back.

Did somebody say masochist?

Re Sheila G's post Oct 24 03:32...

That's why I stopped subscribing to Chatelaine years ago. Their liberal leftiness was making me queasy. They don't deserve any of my money.

Irwin,

Guess Who? I'm back.

Evenings and weekends are devoted to family time and leisure persuits.

I only post Monday to Friday, 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM when I can time allowing between business management meetings.

Did you catch all those liberal women marching to the mic today to defend an adulteress. Doesn't say much for their morals and values. Maybe they are jealous of BSs conquests or hoping their indescretions with other politicians don't see the light of day. Reminded me of Madeline Albright and all the cabinet marching to the mics at the White House saying they believed Clinton whan he said he did not have sex with that woman.
No wonder so few women run for office, they have real values and morals. No great roll models to look up to. Iggy really has his work cut out for him to find, fund, and train women candidates. Even if he does, there is no guarantee we women will vote for them.

Mary T and Liz J; I will address my comments to you because this post has become 'all about women'. I agree with what you two have said here. Women are people, we are not a lump.

The bottom line: Some women are people; some women are Liberano$.

Sort of like the line from The Good, the Bad and the Ugly "As you go through life - says Clint Eastwood - you will find that there are two kinds of people; those with guns and those who dig".