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October 4, 2006

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Airbus is in deep doo-doo: tinyurl.com/hbpfr - This is a good example of what's wrong with public / private partnerships. It's the public part. Go Boeing.

Posted by: Vitruvius at October 4, 2006 11:03 PM

Belinda got hammered on Domi. Why does Bill Graham get a pass in the MSM, on his extra-curricular activities?

Posted by: neo at October 4, 2006 11:25 PM

Head Google - Eric Schmidt is pimping the notion of a ‘Google truth predictor’ function that could assess the truthful statements of politicians.
He expects to have this service available on the internet within five years.
An interesting notion but countless questions beg for answers immediately.
One has to wonder if the program works on the pols, can it also assess the truthfulness of mass media?
And what about the motivations of the Google principals as truth arbitrators?
Curious stuff.

Posted by: Joe Molnar at October 4, 2006 11:29 PM

...never did like the concept of the Airbus A380

Too many people to die in one shoe bomber event.

Plus the need to upgrade passenger ramps, taxiways beefed up for the weight and so on wasn't a viable concept for the gained savings in having more people on one flight.

747 still is the queen of the air. MD-11 would be a decent contender for distance/cost but can't beat the design concept of the 747, wanna be cargo plane that lost to the C5 bid.

Posted by: tomax7 at October 4, 2006 11:40 PM

The latest K.C.N.A dispatch of insanity...

"The DPRK will always sincerely implement its international commitment in the field of nuclear non-proliferation as a responsible nuclear weapons state."

Posted by: Knight of Good Mr. Iron Man at October 4, 2006 11:52 PM

I don't know how this works but...here goes...

Extremely funny segment skewering so-con activist Bill Whatcott. Anti-so-con, but soooo funny.

Please delete if I broke the rules.

Posted by: SUZANNE at October 5, 2006 12:35 AM

"Eric Schmidt is pimping the notion of a ‘Google truth predictor’"

YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!

Posted by: Jack Nicholson at October 5, 2006 1:23 AM

Heh; Weird Al Yankovic has a song on his new album: "Canadian Idiot" (sung to the tune of Green Day's "American Idiot"), and he nails it:

Don't wanna be a Canadian idiot.
Don't want a nation ignored by, well, everyone.
And can you hear the sound of our nation?
The subliminal: “we hate Americans.”

Welcome to a new kind of tension.
Between Ottawa and Washington.
Everything isn't going to be okay.
Television shows us as weaklings.
We can yell, but nobody’s listening.
What are we going to do?

Well maybe I'm a traitor to Canada.
I don’t agree with our liberal agenda.
We can’t even defend our own dominionship.
We’ll just sing of our fair-weather friendship.

Welcome to a new kind of tension.
Between Ottawa and Washington.
Everything isn't going to be okay.

Americans fight for our freedom.
But we still think that we are better than them?
Well that's enough to argue.

We should thank America, can’t you see?
They’re out there protecting democracy.
Against the terrorist forces of Al Qaeda.
I’m calling out all the idiots in Canada.

Welcome to a new kind of tension.
Between Ottawa and Washington.
Everything isn't going to be okay.
Television shows us as weaklings.
We can yell, but nobody’s listening.
What are we going to do?

Posted by: KLT at October 5, 2006 2:19 AM

I think Weird Al penned that little ditty during the rein of Paul "my dicks too small" Martin.

Posted by: ud513 at October 5, 2006 3:12 AM

Paul Martin doesn't have a small dick!

Posted by: Belinda Stronach at October 5, 2006 3:19 AM

British Muslim cop given permission not to guard Israeli Embassy on 'moral grounds':

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=408638&in_page_id=1770&ct=5

Posted by: Nemo2 at October 5, 2006 3:29 AM

Abu Ayyub al Masri, top Al Qaeda Leader in Iraq may have been killed.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1236199,00.html

Posted by: qwerty at October 5, 2006 4:45 AM

$10.00 = Librano$


GRITS HIT BY SCANDAL


A Toronto lawyer will file a complaint today over allegations hundreds of new Liberals were improperly signed up across Canada as part of the ongoing leadership race.
national news

Posted by: maz2 at October 5, 2006 7:15 AM

Mayor of Ottawa is Liberal Bob Chiarelli. ...-

Treasury Board Wants to View O-Train Contract: Sun
Josh Pringle
Thursday, October 5, 2006

The Treasury Board wants to see the contract for the north-south Light Rail Transit Project before giving the green light to federal funding.

A spokesperson for Treasury Board President John Baird tells the Ottawa Sun the City of Ottawa has refused to produce a copy of the contract with Siemens-PCL/Dufferin.

The Federal Government has committed 200 million dollars towards the 780 million dollar line from the University of Ottawa to Barrhaven.

Baird's Communication Director Mike Van Soelen tells the Sun that officials believe taxpayers of Ottawa want the federal government to ensure that proper and due diligence is being completed on the O-Train project.
cfra.com

Posted by: maz2 at October 5, 2006 7:51 AM

****BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!MUST CREDIT BOB!!!!********

GUEST BLOGGERS AT 'SMALL DEAD ANIMALS' DELETING FACTUALLY ACCURATE AND INOFFENSIVE COMMENTARY!!!!TANTAMOUNT TO ADMITTING DEFEAT ON ALL FOREIGN POLICY ISSUES!!!!!

DEVELOPING....

Posted by: Bob at October 5, 2006 7:54 AM

"Senators want A Raise"
Don't they make enough for little or no Work
Your Tax Dollars at work Again
Did You Get a Raise in light of rising cost of Living, Yes it is time to Abolish the SENATE.

Posted by: bryanr at October 5, 2006 8:25 AM

Cops in SanFran push back against Media
http://mfile.akamai.com/12948/wmv/vod.ibsy...591734.300k.asx

Posted by: Zip at October 5, 2006 8:33 AM

bushisms part V

"Im the master of low expectations"

"recession means that people's incomes at the employer level are going down, basically relative to costs people are getting laid off" (huh?)

"the march to war affected people's confidence .... its not a very optimistic thought is it? in other words its the opposite of optimistic when youre thinking of going to war" (huh?)

"in my judgement when the united states says there will be serious consequences and there isnt serious consequences, it creates adverse consequences" (huh ???)

etc etc

how many times is this alfred e neumann wannabe going to be shown with that brain-damaged expression on his face, that blank stare with the very slight crossed eyes?

by the way, I just finished watching 'why we fight'. feel free to look it up on the imdb aka internet movie database for reviews.

donnie rumsy shakes hands with the goodie goodie friend-to-the-american-people saddam hussein. dispatched by ronnie raygun a republican to give assurances from the highest level the americans would provide satellite intelligence and weapons against those nasty iranians, livid because, wait for it, the americans installed shah palavi back in the mid 50s.

"we know iraq has weapons of mass destruction, we got the receipts"

insert personal attacks in the box: |_|

Posted by: t. schmuck esq. at October 5, 2006 8:44 AM

Found this c/p about AdScam Martin:

ReMartin: "how many times is this alfred e neumann wannabe going to be shown with that brain-damaged expression on his face, that blank stare with the very slight crossed eyes?"

Martinisms: I Love Canada. I know nothing. That's why I called the Gomery Inquiry. Moi? A Librano$.
Fundamentally. Er. I know nothing. I hate that fffn Chretien. Clearly. Bush is a moron. Harper is too. I hate that batd, Chretien. Moi loves Koffi/Saddam/Desmarai$. Mushroom theory of management? What is it, Mo? Daddy.... help me. Mommy.... ...-

Martin Kept in the Dark About Arar
Josh Pringle
Thursday, October 5, 2006

Former Prime Minister Paul Martin was unable to get answers from the RCMP about Maher Arar's deportation to Syria.

Martin's executive assistant says that is why a public inquiry was called into the affair. ...-
cfra.com

Posted by: maz2 at October 5, 2006 9:07 AM

Stephen Harper was in attendance at last night’s Leafs game and was shown cheering when Mats Sundin scored on a penalty shot.

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at October 5, 2006 9:11 AM

One hopes the NDP and various Liberal leadership candidates see this front page Ottawa Citizen story:

"Canada right to keep troops in Afghanistan
UN peacekeeping chief"
www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=c04d64c5-15cb-434b-9f17-4c75cbf58d82

Excerpts

'The chief of United Nations peacekeeping operations yesterday praised Canada for deploying a sizable force to Afghanistan, saying the entire NATO deployment is providing "very important" help to the world body's work in that country.

Making the comments during a briefing on the UN's own burgeoning peacekeeping commitments around the world, Jean-Marie Guehenno effectively endorsed the arguments Prime Minister Stephen Harper made in his recent UN address on why Canada had intervened in Afghanistan.

"Canada helps us through the mission in Afghanistan, and we think it is very important that NATO is a solid and powerful force (there)," Mr. Guehenno said. "It is an essential element if one wants to maintain the credibility of the political process in Afghanistan. It is essential to have a robust NATO in Afghanistan."

Among the criticisms in Canada of the deployment to Afghanistan have been calls for Canadian troops to be used in more traditional peacekeeping roles around the world.

But Mr. Guehenno, who called the briefing to highlight how the UN is facing one of the biggest surges in its global peacekeeping commitments in a decade, welcomed Canada's decision to add tanks and about 200 more troops to the 2,300-strong Canadian contingent. He also welcomed other just-announced increases to the NATO force, which is currently 20,000 strong.

"We are very happy to see the reinforcement," he said. "Canada has been a part of that, and we are grateful."'

Mark
Ottawa

Posted by: Mark Collins at October 5, 2006 9:28 AM

Afstan: The "Exit Strategy".

"Reconstruction seen key to U.S. exit"
www.washingtontimes.com/functions/print.php?StoryID=20061004-100414-3803r

Excerpt:

'NATO's top military commander said yesterday the U.S. exit strategy from Afghanistan depends on the effectiveness of reconstruction and aid, more so than the number of troops.

"Afghanistan will not be resolved by military means," said U.S. Marine Gen. James L. Jones, who commands the Western alliance.

"We are always looking for more capability, more equipment, but generally speaking, the troop strength under the current threat envelope is adequate," Gen. Jones said.

"The real challenge is how well the reconstruction mission and the international aid mission is focused," he told the Council on Foreign Relations. "And fundamentally, this is the exit strategy for Afghanistan."

The general's statement came amid a growing recognition in Washington that defeating the Taliban is not just a question of putting more boots on the ground.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist on Tuesday stated that victory in Afghanistan would not happen until Afghan and international officials wooed more tribal leaders away from the Taliban and into the political process.'

Sounds just like Minister of National Defence O'Connor and Gen. Hillier:

"Force can't beat Taliban: Minister" (Sept. 8)
www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1157665847547&call_pageid=968332188492&col=968793972154

Mark
Ottawa

Posted by: Mark Collins at October 5, 2006 9:37 AM

Noooooo, Harper has been converted. Next comes raising taxes, reducing the military and a sense of entitlement.
enough

Posted by: enough at October 5, 2006 9:38 AM

LOL !!!

actually paul martinet reminds me of sgt shultz of the hogan's heroes POW 60s sitcom: 'I know nuthing!!'

technical tip of the day:

wanna plaster the SDA blog?

easy.

hit the post button and whilst the little Windows flag flaps away in the upper rt corner, or the hourglass dep. on your browser, click on the toe hold thing on the bar at the bottom of the screen for the SDA home page. now you can jump into another thread and opine to your hearts content whilst the previous entry patiently awaits its position in the thread.

p.s., you only need to hit the post button once ladies and gentlemen!!! the posting instantly gets onto your ISP memory and from there it is irretrievable; any delay is only that taken to acknowledge back to your computer that it got posted and logged in the blog. but ya only gotta hit 'post' ONCE.

hey, st vitus, do you still maintain that electricity does NOT travel at the speed of light? voltage does NOT propagate around the globe in a fraction of a second? how do you explain in the old days instantaneous phone conversations when it was all done via cables, ie copper wire? what the blazes was it showing up virtually instantaneously at the other telephone if it wasnt electrical voltage? hmmmm ????

Posted by: t. schmuck esq. at October 5, 2006 9:39 AM

The globe & mail is running a poll today.
We hate to keep bringing this up, but
DO YOU AGREE WITH SSM.
Go vote. So far 74% of voters say NO. Over 20,000 votes against to 7000 saying yes. Got to be a shock to them.
Bet a lot of staffer and taliban jacks have lost their brekfast when checking the results. Those results were at 7.45 AB time.

Posted by: mary at October 5, 2006 10:05 AM

The globe & mail is running a poll today.
We hate to keep bringing this up, but
DO YOU AGREE WITH SSM.
Go vote. So far 74% of voters say NO. Over 20,000 votes against to 7000 saying yes. Got to be a shock to them.
Bet a lot of staffer and taliban jacks have lost their brekfast when checking the results. Those results were at 7.45 AB time.

Posted by: mary at October 5, 2006 10:06 AM

The globe & mail is running a poll today.
We hate to keep bringing this up, but
DO YOU AGREE WITH SSM.
Go vote. So far 74% of voters say NO. Over 20,000 votes against to 7000 saying yes. Got to be a shock to them.
Bet a lot of staffer and taliban jacks have lost their brekfast when checking the results. Those results were at 7.45 AB time.

Posted by: mary at October 5, 2006 10:07 AM

Two pieces, yesterday was payday for Canada's political parties.

http://netnewsledger.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=102&Itemid=2

--------------------------------------------
Political party Payment amount
--------------------------------------------
Bloc Quebecois $727,092
Conservative Party of Canada $2,515,737
Green Party of Canada $310,867
Liberal Party of Canada $2,096,926
New Democratic Party $1,212,255
--------------------------------------------

From the wilds of Thunder Bay, one of the candidates for mayor says the city should be the "new Amsterdam" with pot smoking replacing forestry and mining in the region as top economic engines.

http://netnewsledger.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=93&Itemid=29

NNL

Posted by: NWOUpdates at October 5, 2006 10:21 AM

Sorry about the triple post. Computer problems again.

Posted by: mary at October 5, 2006 10:36 AM

schmuck said, "hey, st vitus, do you still maintain that electricity does NOT travel at the speed of light? voltage does NOT propagate around the globe in a fraction of a second?"

Electricity DOES NOT travel at the speed of light. While the result of a current on a wire may be instantaneous, the speed of any specific electron causing that current is actually quite slow. The instantaneous reaction is from one electron "jumping" on the wire at on end and another electron "jumping" off the wire at the other end.

One other misconception is that current flows from positive to negative. The reality is, the electrons/current actually flow from negative to positive.

Trev

Posted by: TD at October 5, 2006 10:43 AM

From the mop and pail:

We've asked this before but the federal Conservatives keep bringing the question up: Do you approve of same-sex marriage?

No

22392 votes (71%) 22392 votes

Yes

9206 votes (29%) 9206 votes

Total votes: 31598

Gee, 71% don't believe in gay marriage at the globe and mail. That's more than required for 2/3 majority for a constitutional amendment; that is if you can get your MP to vote according to constituents wishes.

Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at October 5, 2006 10:56 AM

RE: the Globe & Mail poll

The last poll on the CTV site was similar: "Should religious-minded civil servants be allowed by law to refuse to preside over the civil marriages of gay and lesbian couples?"

To this 77% said yes (11458 votes yes vs. 3338 no).

Posted by: Denis at October 5, 2006 11:00 AM

Re: Mope and whaile poll.

Just voted 70% of people even in TO are sick of the sickos. Time for the revolution!!!!

Posted by: FREE at October 5, 2006 11:08 AM

SOW has been given more cuts to their lobbying funding, and argues without the funding the government provided her group; it would never have successfully struck down the use of Muslim shariah law in Ontario family court cases.
Homa Arjomand was a driving force on the protests. Nowhere can I find any great protests by Sow.
“It doesn’t surprise me that those familiar with the malignant aspects of Shari’a, those who have lived in or have ties to lands where Shari’a is practiced, are vehement in their denunciation of the practice.
What does surprise me, even scares me, is the stunning silence of Canadian feminists. By J. D. Sturtridge”

Posted by: alan at October 5, 2006 11:18 AM

from CBCpravda this morning.

DNA tests to show if Iraqi al-Qaeda leader dead

at one time they would just check your pulse.


and good catch Trev. electricity in the AC system we use only has the electrons moving a few meters each way and then reversing.they cannot be accelerated to the speed of light and back again , 60 times a second. no where near.

Posted by: cal2 at October 5, 2006 11:32 AM

G&M Poll SSM
23326 69% Yes
10440 31% no
11:46am
"Libby This is What Canadians Want"

Posted by: bryanr at October 5, 2006 11:47 AM

http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=34939
http://eteraz.wordpress.com
Seven women to be stoned to death in Iran on Oct 12, 2006. First link is to the newspaper article and the second is to a site that is trying to get people to send emails in protest. Today, I am feeling especially lucky to be a Canadian........

Posted by: MaryM at October 5, 2006 11:51 AM

Canada Am Poll
no Brainer on that one
Re: Senators Pay
It's a runaway
This what Canadians Want.
Just Abolish Them

Posted by: bryanr at October 5, 2006 12:03 PM

5000 YES, and 3000 NO votes have come in the past 2 hours. Guess the supporters of SSM are late risers. At least you can't vote twice. 68% against to 32% for.
Watched a program on the History Channel last night on religions that practiced Human Sacrifice of virgins. Now I know where all those virgins come from for those still practicing this. I will no longer refer to suicide bombers as terrorists, but as members of a religion that still practice Human Sacrifice. Will that wake the lefties up.
Just too bad they take so many non practicers with them.


Posted by: mary at October 5, 2006 12:26 PM

University Campus' cesspool of Snott Nosed Socialist brats!
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=22842_Leftists_Attack_Minuteman_Founder&only

Columbia U in NYC is the stage for this lovely display of selfrighteous political correctness enforcers.

Posted by: OMMAG at October 5, 2006 12:36 PM

Sacrifice infers that the bomber is not responsible for his/her actions. I refer to these idiots as homicide bombers

Posted by: Rob C at October 5, 2006 12:44 PM

Schmuck,

If what you say is true, why does a signal arrive sooner via fiber optics than by copper cable?

Two speeds of light? = TG

Posted by: TG at October 5, 2006 12:57 PM

Well, it looks like they didn't teach physics where schmuck went to school. Electrons as in electricity do not travel at the speed of light. The telephone schtick only points out that some people never tried to call long distance. Kind of like "da proof is da proof".

The best way to explain electricity is to compare it to water in a pipe. electron current = water flow and water pressure = voltage. The bigger the pipe the more water can go through it. Also the more pressure (Voltage) the faster the water flows through it. When water molecule enters one end of the pipe a different molecule exits the other end. Seems almost instantanious but it isn't.

BTW: My profession is to ensure million dollar machinery can accelerate electrons in a near vacuum up to a speed of .9997 the speed of light. And it takes up to 22 Million electron volts to do this. I know electrons.

Posted by: Texas Canuck at October 5, 2006 1:11 PM

Zaccardelli will be the CPC's downfall if he's not fired immediately!

http://www.thiscanada.com/2006/10/05/hoovers-clone-rides-amok/

Today's Globe and Sun articles are referenced in my post. Travers at the Star isn't letting up either.

Come on, Stephen. Fire Zaccardelli's sorry ass, pronto!

Posted by: Erik Sorenson at October 5, 2006 1:12 PM

Interesting article at the Brussels Journal:

1 to 1.25 million white Europeans were enslaved by Barbary Muslims between 1530 and 1780. The Muslims sailed as far as the English and Irish coasts to raid and enslave whole villages.

In the early 19th century, it was America who ended up defending it's trade, fleet and Europe by crushing them. Their naval slogan:

"Millions for defense, not one penny for tribute."

The punks on the left claim that Muslim jihad and anger is directly attributable and justified by 20th century American foreign policy. Idiots.

We were at war with Islamic savages and we are still at war with the very same savages.

Only this time we've invited them into our living room and forgotten the past.

Posted by: Irwin Daisy at October 5, 2006 1:32 PM

uh trev, I DID NOT say 'electron' I said ELECTRICITY.

its a generic term applicable to numerous aspects of emf.

in this case as I spelled out, I then go on to describe the factoid that the VOLTAGE shows up in the conductor at the speed of light.

no mention of the speed of the individual electrons any more than air molecules travel at the 'speed of sound' or that the water on the surface of the oceans is travelling at the speed of the waves.

this is sooooooo typical of the right wingers 'rephrasing' the question and answering their own 'rephrased' question.

no one here has answered the question if vitus still believes that voltage does not traverse the conductor at the speed of light.

it does, he knows it, you know it, millions of scientists and engineers know it, many millions of lowly electricians know it but still it is denied when I assert it.

typical right wingism.

Posted by: t. schmuck esq. at October 5, 2006 1:32 PM

Irwin Daisy: More here:

"Captives: Britain, Empire, and the World, 1600-1850"
by Linda Colley
www.amazon.ca/Captives-Britain-Empire-World-1600-1850/dp/0385721463/sr=1-1/qid=1160070330/ref=sr_1_1/702-2771785-0196060?ie=UTF8&s=books

Mark
Ottawa

Posted by: Mark Collins at October 5, 2006 1:46 PM

"If what you say is true, why does a signal arrive sooner via fiber optics than by copper cable?

Two speeds of light? = TG"

electrical curcuits have transistors etc that cause delays in the signal because they need a fleeting moment 'ramp up' and react to the incoming current to then do what they are needed to do. the cumulative effect over distance involving gawd knows how many intervening semiconductors is what shows up as a delay.

the simple fact is, if for instance you need a nand gate inside a computer to store a bit, it takes some nano or possibly picoseconds to get to the functioning charge level. meanwhile the photon is waaaaaaay over dere because it doesnt have to 'deal with' changing the characteristics of some exotic alloy or whatever is being used in the memory device.

and to answer your smarmy comment about '2 speeds of light' did you not take high school physics, the lecture about how light slows down in glass which explains refraction?

by the way tex, that is EXACTLY the analogy I used against vitus, the water pipe explanation and I too explained the 'electron' at t'other end pops out because the voltage travels at the speed of light and pushes it out. but not the same electron that got pushed in at the source of the emf.

vitus then claimed some nonsense about the 'model didnt apply'

so it appears I have tricked you into agreeing with me, at the very least YOUR attempt to also 'rephrase' the question has resulted in you tripping up yourself.

I win !!!

hint: howcum radio waves stream off the end of an antenna @ the speed of light given a high enough frequency of the AC current?

A: 'cause deyse bot' travellin' ats the speed of light.

Posted by: t. schmuck esq. at October 5, 2006 1:48 PM

Travers is a Liberal hack who would say anything to embarrass the Harper gov. He is still upset that he wasn't appointed to the Senate before the Libs got run out of office. Regards Jake

Posted by: jake at October 5, 2006 2:35 PM

Schmuck: Please define your terms completely before you pat yourself on the back. You seem to be playing fast and loose with facts and definitions.

Example? A Nand gate cannot store a bit.

Any further discussion at this point is meaningless and a waste of my time.

BTW: I have the credentials to prove I know what I am talking about.

Posted by: Texas Canuck at October 5, 2006 2:37 PM

Interesting quote on the tragedy of the deaths of the two little sisters in Barrie, Ont. Their mother has been charged with two counts of first-degree murder.

...Sharon Lynn, whose daughter, Amanda, lives in the building, said the accused mother deserves sympathy because of the difficult situation with her estranged husband. "It was very bad," she said. "That mother needs a hug." - (Kelly Patrick, Canwest News Service) (in Vancouver Province).

A Hug???????


Posted by: Soccermom at October 5, 2006 2:44 PM

Senate Committee report: more money for CF, join BMD, no navy icebreakers. CBC story on latest report by Senate Committee on National Security and Defence:
www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2006/10/05/defence-report.html

Mark
Ottawa

Posted by: Mark Collins at October 5, 2006 2:54 PM

mary: "Sorry about the triple post. Computer problems again"

...yer not talking about the EEBCAK one eh? I know it wasn't the ID-ten-T error right?

;-)

EEBCAK:
Error exists between chair and keyboard

Posted by: tomax7 at October 5, 2006 3:10 PM

Here's a link to something that may turn out to be very interesting...............

gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/

At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war.

Posted by: OMMAG at October 5, 2006 3:25 PM

"The instantaneous reaction is from one electron "jumping" on the wire at on end and another electron "jumping" off the wire at the other end."

Ah yes, before there was The Neutron Dance there was The Electron Drift.

If one built an incompressible poking stick of negligible mass 186,001 miles long could you tap out a message to the far end that would arrive faster than the speed of light?

Posted by: Cal at October 5, 2006 3:31 PM

BTW - Re "Speed of Light" and elctricity.

Since I was able to demonstrate in high school lab that electricity Does Not travel at the speed of light by using an oscilliscope a battery and a switch along with some wire....and I'm pretty sure that the world has not changed that much in 40 years or so!
I think the esq. schmuck is out to prove he knows about as much about physics as he does about politics....or economics....or philosphy....or history...or current events ....or ....well you get the picture!

Posted by: OMMAG at October 5, 2006 3:31 PM

Is Intifata France next?

http://mesowest.blogspot.com/

This blogsite belongs on your daily cheklist.

Just think Me - So - West dot blogspot ..

You may get caught up with bear-spray for teachers too. =TG

Posted by: TG at October 5, 2006 3:33 PM

Fill in the blanks to this demonstration of lefty support for free speech!
hotair.com/archives/2006/10/05/video-columbia-amnesty-fascists-rush-stage-at-minuteman-speech/

Posted by: OMMAG at October 5, 2006 3:58 PM

Texas Canuck,

Sounds like you work at a synchrotron. I used to work at the one in Saskatoon, very interesting work.

Trev

Posted by: TD at October 5, 2006 5:50 PM

Schmuck, nee Robert J, writes that "Voltage shows up in the conductor at the speed of light [...] voltage traverse[s] the conductor at the speed of light."

Voltage does not "show up" in a conductor - at all. Voltage does not "traverse" a conductor - at any speed. Voltage is a measure of the potential difference between two charges. The voltage varies as the charges change, which happens at varying speeds depending on the properties of the current and of the conductor.

In other words, when you close a switch between (say) a battery and a lamp, voltage does not suddenly appear at the lamp. The voltage was already there when the switch was open. Closing the switch just starts the flow of current, which will then cause a change in voltage as the potential differential is drained.

In summary: (1) voltage doesn't move at all, (2) it doesn't change at the speed of light (how could it -- the very concept is nonsensical).

Given that this has all been explained to him before, and can easily be verified (for example, via Wikipedia), Schmuck's refusal to learn from the knowledge of those who know more than him implies that he is unfit for any intelligent discussion of any sort.

Posted by: Vitruvius at October 5, 2006 6:20 PM

light travels in packets known as photons.

The speed of light is a constant denoted:

c = 3.0 x 10exp(8) m/s as in the formula for energy given by Einstein

E = m c exp(2)


An electron is the subatomic particle that moves a charge. also note the wave particle duality construct.

cf also Heisenberg's uncertainty principle

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle

you can tell the location or the speed of a charged particle but not both.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron

These are differing physics phenomena.

Schmuck is exactly as his name implies, and indicates he has little understanding in this area.

BTW my degree is in mathematics and physics.

We can rest assured that Schmuck will not be building or designing any circuit boards for computers any time soon.

Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at October 5, 2006 6:42 PM

Not to put too fine a point on it, but light, photons, duality, uncertainty, and electrons aren't really important in the discussion. Schmuck was making a claim about *voltage* per se. He's been making it here for months now, under various names. He's been debunked before.

Voltage is a measure of potential energy differential. It is defined as one joule of energy per coulomb of charge. Voltage does not move. Voltage varies as charge moves. Charge does not move at the speed of light. Ergo, voltage does not vary at the speed of light.

And it doesn't because the concept is nonsense. Look, the speed of light is a measure of distance or displacement divided by time, like meters per second. The only things that can vary over time at the speed of light are distances or displacements. But voltage is not a distance or displacement. It is a meaure of potential energy. Voltage can only vary in units of joules per coulomb per second, not meters per second. So it can't vary at the speed of light: THE UNITS ARE WRONG!

Posted by: Vitruvius at October 5, 2006 7:10 PM

Yikes, I meant to say: Voltage can only vary *over time* in units of joules per coulomb per second. It can of course, for example, vary over distance in units of joules per coulomb per meter. But that's still not meters per second, is it? No, no matter how you slice it, voltage can't change at the speed of light. The concept is nonsense.

Posted by: Vitruvius at October 5, 2006 7:21 PM

Dang, I made another mistake. It is not the case that voltage is defined as one joule of energy per coulomb of charge. That's the definition of one volt. Voltage is defined as joules of energy per coulomb of charge. Sorry about that.

Posted by: Vitruvius at October 5, 2006 7:40 PM

Tip:

CHINA'S MOBILE EXECUTION BUSES

http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/05/video-sky-news-exposes-chinas-mobile-execution-buses/

Bonus:

Mobile Organ Harvesting

Posted by: Herald the New Superpower at October 5, 2006 8:02 PM

Does nyone know who's running National Newswatch, and why they're hiding behind an American anonymous registrar "Domains by Proxy, Inc."?

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Posted by: djb at October 5, 2006 8:26 PM

Ummm, djb, because they desire privacy?

Because they're running an unabashedly pro-Western Civilization and pro-Canadian Forces website during a time of war while our Islamic Fascist enemy repeatedly threatens the lives of journalists, cartoonists, film producers, professors, politicians, lay people, the pope, and others who are even vaguely critical of their religion founded by a mass murderer and 6-year old girl marrier?

Or maybe... just to prevent spam.

Posted by: You Got to Be Kidding at October 5, 2006 8:57 PM

djb,

Try going to National Newswatch "Contact Us" link with JavaScript disabled on your web browser and you'll see the message:

"This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it."

Why don't you try writing them and asking them?

Posted by: Hiding Your Email Address from Whois Searches Is Just Plain Smart at October 5, 2006 9:04 PM

Massive Pak involvement in Afstan, esp. by the intelligence service, ISID:

"Nato's top brass accuse Pakistan over Taliban aid"
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/10/06/wafghan06.xml&DCMP=EMC-new_06102006

Mark
Ottawa

Posted by: Mark Collins at October 5, 2006 9:20 PM

Of course the speed of electons doesn't come into consideration when using Naquadria for an energy source ;-)))

Posted by: Texas Canuck at October 5, 2006 10:17 PM

Oh hell, the speed of electrons doesn't even come into consideration when using a good Pilsner or Port as an energy source ;-)

Posted by: Vitruvius at October 5, 2006 10:57 PM

mississauga matt...are you sure he wasn't cheering because it looked like Sundin was stopped?...I think he looked dissappointed when he realised the puck went in...Careful ...that TO/Ottawa rivalry is serious.
It was great to see Harper out having a relaxed time.

Posted by: vf at October 5, 2006 11:50 PM

Thanks Mark, Excellent link. = TG

Posted by: TG at October 6, 2006 12:06 AM

"Why don't you try writing them and asking them?"

I did. No reply. I thought Steve Janke might know as he's linked to there on a daily basis, but he denies any connection.

I find it interesting that of all the news aggregators, whoever this is chooses to hide. I can think of lots of reasons to do it, but none of them are particularly good, IMO.

Posted by: djb at October 6, 2006 1:18 AM

Schmuck could however convert 12 volts into light speed if someone showed him where the headlight switch is located on his Lada.

Posted by: ud513 at October 6, 2006 1:30 AM

yo, tex, combinations of nand gates will provide all the basic logic curcuits ie and, or, nor, not, thus nand gates are going to hold bits given the correct configuration.

vitus: you are unduly wrapped up in semantics.

the fact is, if you put a voltmeter at both ends of a very long conductor and apply voltage to one end, the meter at the other end will show voltage lickety split, ie the speed of light ANY 'lag' is due to the very simple and understandable (well except you) FACT that measuring devices thus far cannot react to the presence of the votage that 'showed up' to accurately reflect that indeed it is there. the devices need to either charge up some electronic sensor or in some other manner take some time to indicate the presence of a voltage. in response to the emf apllied at the other end of the very long conductor. it is the reason high frequency AC streams off in the form of electromagnetic radiation AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT. the e m f has to be travelling that fast to leave the atoms on the antenna. photons dont have that barrier. in fact as all we clever people know, photons in fact to much better dashing about in the absence of any medium. not so electron. they need a conductor. thus the whole business of capacitance etc come into play. the delays are in the measuring devices; the voltage is there at the speed of light.

and Im still waiting oh wise one on your impressive explanation of how induction works. Im not interested in the mathematics on prediecting the amperage depending on the strength of the field or the voltage depanding on the ration of coils, Im waiting for you o wiseass, er wise one, to tell all us bedazzled serfs how megawatts of power somehow leap across the insulators inside the transformer.

hint: ye olde quantum physics at it again. (which while we're on the topic of voltage also explains the voltage difference but clearly you're going to get all fouled up in semantics again on that one).

perhaps hans can give us the answer. he is so clever you see. unfortunately he neglected to include the factoid in his calculations that time is most maliable and thus the 'speed' of light gets measured against a multitude of rates of 'time'. furthermore, no one here has ventured an answer as to why the photon has already accelerated to the 'speed' of light before it has left the outer edges of the atom, and equally quickly stops accelerating. do tell hans, how can this be? and what does this phenomenon tell us about the manner in which the universe sprang into existence? there is a link and if the next posting I see isnt a rude insult I will tell one and all exactly what that link is.

oh, by the way 513, I once dished out comeuppance to a retailer that seriously bunned me off by converting the 12V o/p from a cordless drill battery into an AC invertor, thence to a transformer yielding some 400 - 500 V which I plugged into their intercom system via an off-the-shelf RJ11 plug. which mysteriously went silent when I tapped the push button wired onto one side of the drill contacts.

I win !!!

Posted by: t. schmuckie esq. at October 6, 2006 5:18 AM

October 5, 2006
Air India families disillusioned

...the experience has led some to question one of the ostensible cornerstones of Canadian social tolerance - the official policy of multiculturalism adopted by successive governments in Ottawa.

That policy too often focuses on trivialities like celebrating ethnic dress, dance and cuisine, complained Shaklikar, while neglecting the need to educate newcomers in the duty to respect others.

"If we are serious about being a multicultural society, we might have to move beyond food and dance recognition and actually have a discussion about core values like the rule of law. . . . If you disagree with someone you can't just blow them up. And if you do blow them up you will be punished."...

Posted by: JM at October 6, 2006 7:06 AM

I'm not sure what your example of a "tip" is, but if this isn't worth writing about, I don't know what is.

'Lost tribe 2,700 years ago of Israel returns home from India in the thousands'

http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52317

Posted by: Christoph at October 6, 2006 10:50 AM

Ah, this is total crap, Kate, you need to work on your blog.

Your spam filter ate another comment and doesn't even let someone do links.

What kind of spam filter doesn't allow links for frig sakes? It's a blog.

I was trying to link to a story about a lost tribe 2,700 years ago of Israel returns home from India in the thousands.

I think that's important. Here is a bastardized form of the URL:

wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52317

Posted by: Christoph at October 6, 2006 10:52 AM

Ah, this is total crap, Kate, you need to work on your blog.

Your spam filter ate another comment and doesn't even let someone do links.

What kind of spam filter doesn't allow links for frig sakes? It's a blog.

I was trying to link to a story about a lost tribe 2,700 years ago of Israel returns home from India in the thousands.

I think that's important. Here is a bastardized form of the URL:

double-you ehn dee.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52317

Posted by: Christoph at October 6, 2006 10:53 AM

Ah, this is total crap, Kate, you need to work on your blog.

Your spam filter ate another comment and doesn't even let someone do links.

What kind of spam filter doesn't allow links for frig sakes? It's a blog.

I was trying to link to a story about a lost tribe 2,700 years ago of Israel returns home from India in the thousands.

I think that's important. Here is a bastardized form of the URL.

Correction... it won't let me put even that. Well, it was a beautiful and moving story if only you were allowed to read about it. WND has it.

Posted by: Christoph at October 6, 2006 10:54 AM

"Oh hell, the speed of electrons doesn't even come into consideration when using a good Pilsner or Port as an energy source ;-)"

Posted by: Vitruvius at October 5, 2006 10:57 PM


As I write this I do believe caffine as in coffee would be more a bit more eco-friendly to my body environment. Damn, I still miss Tim Horton's (recovering fritter addict, eh).

Posted by: Texas Canuck at October 6, 2006 11:46 AM

FLASH: CNN is going to do a story on a cdn man who was deported to Syria, wonder who that is. Will be talking to an FBI guy, in about 5 minutes from now. The anchor did say, the man has been found to have no ties with AQ.

Posted by: mary at October 6, 2006 11:57 AM

From the Department of: "I Told You So".

It's in your denims, Jean. ...-


Exercise fails to cut obesity

Sarah Boseley, London
October 7, 2006

GIVING young children more physical exercise does not stop them becoming obese, a study has shown.

The Glasgow University study, based on work with more than 500 four-year-olds, counters the assumption that in an age dominated by television and computer games, children could slough off the pounds if they exercised more. ...-
http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/exercise-fails-to-cut-obesity/2006/10/06/1159641529363.html

Posted by: maz2 at October 6, 2006 12:24 PM

Exercise more AND eat less and better.

Posted by: Texas Canuck at October 6, 2006 9:28 PM

Schmuck = Bart Simpson. = TG

Posted by: TG at October 6, 2006 9:45 PM

Vitruvius, did you notice how Bart changed from the *movement* of electrons in a conductor to transmission of an RF resonant signal through atmosphere?

Time to ignore the squirming Bart. = TG

Posted by: TG at October 7, 2006 1:53 AM
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