I think you are mixed up.Karzai never said the ,it was the prez of Pakistan.

Already changed it... thanks!

"The fact Mr. Martin is incapable of sticking by his decisions explains why he is no longer the prime minister of Canada," Harper said.

Zing!

Marvellous spoof on Layton, comparing his insistence on 'recall of the troops' to a CCF recall of the troops during WWII and D-Day. Sure, D-Day and the invasion had hard times; it took one more year to finish the war in Europe and thousands of casualties. Should the world have stopped and allowed German fascism to triumph over democracy?

Same thing now - should Islamic fascism triumph over democracy? Islamism completely and totally rejects democracy, rejects the rule of law, rejects individual rights, rejects human rights. Total rejection. For them, the only Truth, the only laws are those laid down in the Koran, which are deemed to be the Pure Truth, the unabridged, uncensored Words of God. No changes are allowed.

And, interestingly, the Koran is primarily about, not god, but about these social rules of behaviour. All of which are just great in a 7th century tribal economy but irrelevant and dangerous in a modern society.

So, Taliban Jack won't fight for democracy, neither in Canada nor elsewhere. In Canada, his agenda is the totalitarian state, a state which establishes a monoculture by virtue of 'soft dictatorship' using propaganda, psychological pressure and censorship, instead of a military. It achieves the same result - a brainwashed braindead citizenry, operating within an authoritarian centrally controlled state, unable to dissent, critique, analyze, think.

As for Paul Martin, he's an example of this braindead persona. He keeps repeating that the Canadian military should be engaged in 'reconstruction' ignoring that if you build a school - and the Taliban bomb it and the children in it the next day - then, you are not only not further ahead. You've regressed. Regressive Martin and Taliban Jack.

CBC early morning news... "controversial remarks", "provacative remarks"...

CBC editorializing again. Controversial in whose mind? The CBC?

Please PMSH, the CBC does not speak for me, stop funding it. I've had it with the CBC.

I seem to recall that when they had the emergency debate to extend the mission. Paul Martin wasn't even there.

Hypocrite!

The blunt truth. Something the CBC has always had problems with.

How to apply leftist spin? Not always easy to do. = TG

How to apply leftist spin? Not always easy to "do. "

But, there damn good at it.

Talk the talkers like Paul Martin are so useless to Canada and the world. How, pray tell, would it do any good for us "peace-keepers" to rebuild schools while the Telaban is allowed to blow them up ? With the kids inside ? And the teacher then beheaded ? naughty, naughty.

As some in his Liberal Party have put in writing. Paul Martin is incapable of making a decision, let alone lead a country. The only reason he got to be PM was because of powerful backers. Power Corp, Desmarais, Maurice Strong,ect.

How on earth can the Libs & the NDP support the Telaban, AlQueda policies like:

Women have to be covered in public
Girls can not go to school
Arranged marriges
Women stoned to death because THEY were raped.
Worship death more than life.
Martyrs rewarded with girls, to screw at will.

Supporting these policies is what they would be doing if they allow the sickos to spread their ways.

Talk the talkers like Paul Martin are so useless to Canada and the world. How, pray tell, would it do any good for us "peace-keepers" to rebuild schools while the Telaban is allowed to blow them up ? With the kids inside ? And the teacher then beheaded ? naughty, naughty.

As some in his Liberal Party have put in writing. Paul Martin is incapable of making a decision, let alone lead a country. The only reason he got to be PM was because of powerful backers. Power Corp, Desmarais, Maurice Strong,ect.

How on earth can the Libs & the NDP support the Telaban, AlQueda policies like:

Women have to be covered in public
Girls can not go to school
Arranged marriages
Women stoned to death because THEY were raped.
Worship death more than life.
Martyrs rewarded with girls, to screw at will.

Supporting these policies is what they would be doing if they allow the sickos to spread their ways.

Musharraf may have gotten the numbers wrong on Canadian deaths in Afstan, but his point was bang-on. The truth slapped lefties (and their representative, Carol Off) in the face last night. But they obviously still don't get it, if coverage of the fall-out of that interview is any indication.

If the left had their way, Canada would quickly end up a neutral, ineffective, white-flag waving laughingstock. I don't think THAT's what our soldiers signed up for! And why would they sign up for that?

I watched the interview. It was sad.

I was elated when Musharraf had to gravitate the simpering, mewling lefy fembot doing the interview...he had to literally slap the cow across the face with realities to get her off her myopic peacenick jag...I was also ashamed as a Canadian...I deeply hope the simpering fossilized flower children the CBC puts forward to the world as a face of the Canadian people, is an image that is not taken seriously. I'd rather they laugh at CBC's naivity than laugh at Canada's.

Listening to the insipid pablum being spewed by the squat-to-pee leftoid doing the Musharraf interview, the world's terrorists will think Canadians are excessively self-indulgent cowardly utopians in the last stages of national decay who will pee thier undies if anyone threatens them or asks them to fight for what they believe in.

I was truely embarassed by the odoriferous politically correct spew coming from this idiot who presumed scold this Foreign political leader for all Canadians..openly bemoaning our small casualty rate as a "horror" as our enemies watched....questioning his "value system" for allowing this to happen to "Canadians" and interjecting the Canadian Lib-left mantras as being "proper" global ethics in a war zone.....I was so elated when this guy shoved that pissy-pants self-righteous preching right back up her saintly wazoo...it was a fine CBC moment.

Exactly, WL Mack. Man, that was an embarrassing interview. If people around that world think that Carol Off is a typical Canadian, then we are in laughingstock territory already.

Holy Smokes WLM Redux.
That was one fine rant! Bravo!

back to the WWII/WWIV analogy...imagine what would have happened had Hitler developed nuclear weapons...fast forward to today...imagine what would happen if the islamonutjobs get nuclear weapons...history has a strange way of repeating itslef...

This just in

"suicide bomber blows himself up outside the pearly gates" claims he wants sharia law in heaven and will stop at nothing to get it

Paul Martin is a washed up dithering fool! As the former PM of this country he just has shown exactly why he no longer holds the position. Thank god that we have in PRIME MINISTER HARPER a man with class, dignity and intelligence. Way to stick to Paulie the fool he is....
(Note: Did any see Miss BS saying she didn't realize what getting into the public eye was really about. How about being a MP with some honor? Glad that the Lier's are stuck with her, just rounds out their perfect team!)

While I agree with Musharraf that war is war and solders get killed… I think it’s time we stopped referring to places like Pakistan as countries.

In fact Pakistan is a bunch of tribes held together by a dictator. In this case Musharraf is a “lesser of evils “ kind of dictator. But the fact that these places can’t operate as democracies is because their mode of government has not evolved with their exploding populations. Tribalism can’t work in large populations … just look at our own aboriginal disgrace. The 600 tribes in Canada would completely collapse were they not propped up by Canadian government handouts of $45,000 per family.

So is Pakistan an ally? I don’t think so, I think Musharraf can be helpful but his situation is tenuous, he’s almost been assassinated a few times. Oil and poppies had been propping up Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan. Otherwise they would have collapsed long ago. But the dictators hold them together using the artificial economy for their own ends.

In order to help us out of denial, I think it’s time the West came up with a new category instead of countries for these tribal societies. Then when they make the cut, perhaps by holding 2 or 3 successful elections, then we can start to refer to these societies as countries. Iraq and Afghanistan are .. almost countries.

kingstonlad:

One of the reasons that Stalin had Marshall Zhukov and General Konev race for the occupation of the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute, headed up by Werner Heisenberg, back in 1945.

Both Heisenberg and Danish scientist Niels Bohr were well aware of the potential to 'liberate huge amounts of energy' through the use nuclear power.

According to some analysts Iran's Dr. Ahmadinejad has nuclear weapons on his agenda, though he has strenuously denied this assertion.

The pregnant question is:

Why does Iran need nuclear energy development when it is sitting on top of some of the largest oil and gas deposits in the world?

Further, even if one accepted Iran's 'need' to develop peaceful nuclear energy, why is Ahmadinejad systematically resisting IAEA inspection teams to proof their 'peaceful activities'?

It would seem a little disingenuous to say the least.

All aided and abetted by China, Russia, and France on the UNSC who have 'financial interests' in Iran.

No one wants to cook their financial goose which is laying the golden petrodollar eggs.

Welcome to geopolitics.

By pushing for negotiations with the Taliban and withdrawing troops from Afg'stan, Jack Layton is trying to get support from the Muslim community. Very cynical in my view.

That wasn’t Paul Martin commenting on the mission in Afghanistan I didn’t hear one (VERY VERY Important) in it.

I think that CBC believed that the audience would agree with their warped vision of Canada, be insulted by Musharraf’s words, we have suffered much more than you, and insist PMSH pick up our marbles and go home.

Anyone with common sense understands his words perfectly well. An army is for the defense of the country and there will be casualties.

Watching CBC is becoming a bit like the Victorian pastime of being entertained by watching the inmates locked up in the Bedlam insane asylum.

Rat fuc,

Have to agree with you. That was the best rant yet on SDA. WLM Redux was on fire with that one...a perfect score of 100%.

Musharraf has great big steel balls...makes our Canadian politicos and pundits look like snivelling crybabies.

Phrase of the day: "insipid pablum being spewed by the squat-to-pee leftoid"

Priceless...

To the Canucks over there, Git-R-Done, eh.

WL Mackenzie Redux: Very fine rant indeed: word and tone perfect.

HOWEVER: Isn't Musharraf simply doing the standard Jihadist forked-tonque two-step? Isn't he a "friend" in the same sense that the Saudis and Egyptians are?

Didn't he just release 2500 terrorists (including Taliban) from prison, and cede control of that northern border area which name escapes me at the moment, but begins with 'W' -- a betrayal that someone recently described as al-Queda's biggest triumph since 9/11.

I dunno, while it was delicious to see the flower-child get nailed, there was also something extremely sleazy about his little lecture: an enemy pretending to be a friend lecturing us about the good fight.

From my POV the only thing that treacherous bastard is fighting for is his intact ass.

WL Mackenzie Redux: Used your comment in a guest-post (at end) at "Daimnation!":

"Afstan: Mr Martin wobbles and gets the heebie-jeebie dithers"
www.damianpenny.com/archived/007677.html

Mark
Ottawa

According to Strategic Forecasting Incorporated, last Friday Musharraf said that "the tactics used in the killing or capture of al Qaeda leaders do not matter". Their conjecture is that this statement represents a major shift in Pakistan's policy on U.S. forces' conducting anti-militant operations on Pakistani soil. They note that if and when the United States undertakes such operations, they will likely create a major upheaval and possibly instability in Pakistan.

For information on subscribing to Strategic Forecasting, see http://www.stratfor.com

Wow all these comments for no work... beauty!

I wanna die for Israel... they need more money!

Musharrif could have carried the point further by saying, You Canadians are helping the free world to avoid islamofascist domination where all feedoms will be lost, and your media is filled with constant hand-wringing when troop losses only number in the teens.

When conflicts break out into the open, and across all borders; when we realize that all of our collective necks are on the chopping block, there will be little time to dwell on numbers of losses. = TG

Me No Dhimmi:

The provinces you refer to are North and South Waziristan.

More here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waziristan

These traditionally tribal areas long gave the British headaches when they occupied Afghanistan in the 19th century as well; frequently requiring incursions from 1863-1945. Attempting to 'go in' here will likely make for a 'rough adventure'.

Your "Al Qaeda/Taliban" types are situated perfectly in this religiously conservative part of Pakistan. Note Musharraf described himself as a 'moderate'; so he doesn't support the "Talibanization" of the area.

Releasing 2500 Al Qaeda/Taliban types doesn't seem like 'fighting the good fight'; but it is better than handing Al Qaeda a nuclear weapon with no questions asked.

You get your choice of ugly situation to extremely ugly situation.

Taliban Jack Layton has a conscript/ally:

Taliban Bill Graham. ...-

GRAHAM CONDEMNS MUSHARRAF'S COMMENTS

Interim Liberal leader Bill Graham condemned on Wednesday comments made by the President of Pakistan, who said Tuesday that Canadians should stop complaining about the number of casualties in the war in Afghanistan.
national newswatch

Hans, thanks. Good comment. RealPolitic is forever I guess, despite Bush's proclamation of foreoing the old "he's a bastard but he's our bastard" policy. I shudder to say it, but perhaps I'm a tad idealistic (on the right side of the equation of course).

Not sure how releasing 2500 islamists reduces the risk of their having nukes, unless you think this will ADD to Pakistan's stability.

We shall take Musharraf's claim to "moderation" under advisement for the moment.

Puzzle: in his book, why did he reveal Armitage's threat (obviously a heated panic warning) to bomb Pakistan back to the stone age. Surely that little behind-the-scenes revelation gives succor to the international hard left and islamofascists and was not, as the diplomats are wont to say, "helpful".

That said, he's TOTALLY right about the wringing of hands over the small number of casualties. I heard a few seconds on CBC on the car radio (was in too tight a jam to get if off safely!) in which the announcer described the 4 recent deaths as "unprecendented carnage".

The NDP were very quick to call our troops terrorist
Then the Liberals call border guards wimps,
now graham condems pakistan's pres.
Martin? well nobody can figure that guy out.
However I think they should be looking in both of their own back yards first.
The only problem with this is, Which is the wimp & which is the terrorist or is just both.

WLM Redux

Best blog o' the day. Thanks for the laugh.

Like all closet hippies, I would love to see world peace but that isn't happening and if it means we are at war, then so be it. Just have to go on fighting the good fight...our Canadian men and women need our support..they are there to make sure we are safe here. Spoiled rotten, we are.

Me No Dhimmi: What about the carnage on "the highway of death":
www.ontla.on.ca/hansard/house_debates/37_parl/session1/l007a.htm#P52_11638

Mark
Ottawa

Me No Dhimmi:

The comment about being 'bombed back to the Stone Age' was likely revealed to ensure Musharraf has a perceived 'political distance' from US policy for the home population in Pakistan.

Translation:

'No assassins please, as I do really represent all of Pakistan.'

More REALPolitik that he is announcing he is in between a rock and a hard place, either by being bombed by the US or 'taken out' by your Al Qaeda types.

This is conventionally known as 'walking the highwire' and how to avoid destabilization.
In some ways this explains the blame placed on Hamid Karzai for 'not doing enough' and the comment about the number of Cdn casualties.

Bill Graham's comment is just off base, as he doesn't have a bunch of Al Qaeda types who would dearly love to take your head off and live right next door, 'just down the street'.

Musharraf is living with the viper's nest in his 'living room' and Graham waxes eloquently that the troop deaths comment was out of place some 1000s of kilometers in relative safety.

I would venture to say Graham wouldn't be making such comments were he standing in some village in Waziristan, where tribal 'score settling' is the standing order of the day.

I agree that we stiffen too quickly at deaths and injuries. Each life lost is a tragedy, but if we're there, we have to devote all our efforts to winning to prevent the copycats that will occur if we don't.

Having said that, the leader of a country has no right to criticize Canada after all the effort, time and money that was pumped into his country after the tsunami. How many lives did we help save because of that?

Musharaff is completely correct....a dose of reality as bitter as it may seem is something the spoiled little children of the leftosphere need more often.

....in which the announcer described the 4 recent deaths as "unprecendented carnage".

Then, what was 9/11?

Never mind the fact that on any day of their choosing these little Islamofreaks could kill 400 of us without blinking at a mall or on a subway.

What would it take for these mindless journo hacks to get it? I suspect these idiots if their homes were blown up before their eyes would have to get back to the studio to validate it.

A tsunami in Pakistan?

For Christs sakes! What has become of our educational system?

Hans: Your theory about Mush's revelation as US-distancing message to al-Queda. Never crossed my mind. Very plausible. I'm thinking I need a few hours with Yes Minister! in order to de-linearizie my thinking.

penny: For the first time in years, watched a few seconds of CTV news: one item triumphantly announced that the number of US soldiers killed had now eclipsed the # of death on 9/11 by one. I was stunned stupid by the implied message in that little factoid, viz., "it is now officially not worth it".

WL Mackenzie Redux: Are you out of date about the squatting to pee? I thought these babes were liberated standees now. That squatting had been re-interpreted as male-oppression. Again, terrific rant!

Is there a video somewhere of that interview??

CJunk, WLM Redux and Mark,

if you expect exhortations like that to be taken seriously, you not only are naive to the point of immaturity, you are delusional.

Keep up the good work revealing what lurks in the conservative shadows. The Canadian voter will be impressed.

"... simpering, mewling lefy fembot ... slap the cow across the face with realities to get her off her myopic peacenick jag...

... the squat-to-pee leftoid ... pee thier undies

....I was so elated when this guy shoved that pissy-pants self-righteous preching right back up her saintly wazoo..."

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at September 27, 2006

There's more than a little bit of mysoginist imagery in this piece by WLM. I assume this is the same WLM moron as on Free Dominion?

agitfact: Lighten up! Those shorts of yours are about 3 sizes too small.

Dammned right agit , the above commentors definitely lack the nuance , and proportionality and blah , blah , freaking blah ..... the delusional smack was perfect BTW .

Agit, Bill, Budd: Let's see, we now have "moron", "delusional", "immaturity", "lack of nuance"... all in referring to a rant. My my, how supercilious considering the same adjectives are used regularily in describing those of the right who partake in serious discourse.

By the way, Wild Wil's rant was tame by the standards found on many many lefty blogs... and some of them very popular self-important ones at that. I think you three have your panties in a knot... lighten up.

Further to Hans - 4:31 and Me No Dhimmi 4:42

Captain Ed is correct when he says . . .

Is the war on terrorism really a "clash of civilizations"? The overreaction to Pope Benedict XVI's relatively innocuous remarks at the University of Regensburg on Sept. 12 would seem to lend weight to this alarming notion. ...

Where are the demonstrations in the Muslim street when the president of Iran denies the Holocaust and calls for the destruction of Israel? Or when Palestinian kidnappers force two Western journalists to convert to Islam at gunpoint? Or when Sunni terrorists in Iraq bomb Shiite mosques and slaughter hundreds of worshipers?

http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/

I say this **Alarming Notion** that *Moderate* Muslims are smugly enjoying the progress of Shiia influence through terrorism is very real.

And no wonder, when Iran has Putin*s backing and China can not do without their oil lifeblood from Iran, moderate Muslims seem to look forward to world dominance while avoiding thoughts of violence, oppression and death that comes with this, the blackest form of Shia law.

What is really alarming is the fact that millions of citizens of the free world have not joined the dots yet and are asleep to the real picture that all our freedoms are now under direct threat.

Bush may have no choice but to *Bunker Bust* Iran*s 24 plus nuclear plants. Is that what it takes to awaken the sleepers and the leftists? = TG

Debris Trail,

please let me know which lefty blogs I should be reading to put that rant into proportion. I promise to have a go and let you know what I think (on your site, to save Kate bandwith.) And I do maintain that "immaturity" and "delusional" describe the given case.

By the way, have any of the commenters slagging Carol Off read her book The Lion, the Fox and the Eagle? It might have saved them making asses of themselves.

I don't see where Musharraf got the idea that Canada is 'bitching' too much about our casualties at war,....

....unless of course our good deluded friend Jack Laydown and his sycophants at the CBC bombarded him with their BS, until he felt compelled to scream 'enuff already!'

agitfact: You haven't provided ONE actual fact in your negative rants. You obviously don't like what people have said here. Ok, we get that.

What are you FOR? Speak up.

Agitfact: You read a book??? Wow! So have I, one or a thousand; can't quite say for certian... so that must make us equals in the least. Like I said, Lighten up!

Budd...mysoginist imagery? Sure he exposes too much, but it's a rant and he lost control. It is however partner to his name and the homo-erotic imagery of this thread and most right wing entries about strong leaders and fear, with the oh joy image of big daddy saving them from bad people. Musharraf craps on them and they say "more sir".

As to lefty blogs to read: I suggest some of the small ones for starters, Like KOS and Rabble.ca, and then of course you could always give My Blahg a try if you want a taste of Canada's most famous and intellectual blog. (got to admit though, rabble has some incredibly witty and bright people on the forums) If you hit upon a more emotional topic, and can duck the racism, bigotry, profanity, and socio-centric fare on some of these... you're more man than me. I've deleted enough profanity in the comments on my blog from regular patrons of those establishments, to know that outright filth without even any attempt at humor is standard for some. No, Wild Wil's rant was in fact tempered if compared to some of the stuff I've come across or been subjected to.

Hey, we could always try going to your blog...

"homo-erotic imagery of this thread and most right wing entries" ... LOL! "Most"... now somebody has got a sense of humor.

What a bunch of idiotic, right-wing ass clowns you people are for supporting anything Musharraf has to say. It is in this two faced prick's country where most of the Taliban mullahs got their education. Moreover, where do you think the current Talis go when it's time for a rest? Where do you think Osama is hiding? Are you too stupid to see he is playing on both sides of the fence?

Hypocrites. First mocking Jack Layton and anyone who is against the war, then whole heartedly supporting the comments of someone who ACTUALLY SUPPORTS terrorism and then complains about Canada's reluctance to have it's troops become cannon fodder for the terrorists.

Tall order, Lookout, but I'll try to answer your 08:40 PM challenge.

In politics (I assume that this is your primary interest) I am for government (at all levels)acting for the common good (i.e. not in the interests of power, party, functionaries, supporters etc.,) and doing what is required under the circumstances without fear or favour. What government does should be "rational" in that it considers all pertinent elements, and discards extraneous ones (such as how many votes will it bring/cost?) It should be "reasonable" as to cost and benefit, and it should be "affordable." And democratic government means government with the informed consent of the governed, not their un-, mis- or disinformed consent.

I must admit that I haven't seen much good government in my lifetime, although there are glints of one or the other aspect now and then. And no, I am not a member of any political party. All of them fall short of my expectations, so I vote to sustain the government or throw the rascals out (it's been mostly the latter.)

In interpersonal relations, I believe that every human being has the same rights I do. In human discourse (including political) I believe in sticking to facts and logic, and consider ad hominem attacks an abomination. Opinions are valid and to be respected when based on fact, not intended to serve a purpose. (If I don't like a lot of what I read here, it is because it is purpose-driven propaganda that has only a tenuous connection to reality. And yes, I definitely dislike roundhouse condemnations and immoderate language.)

In international relations I am all for being circumspect. Realpolitik is real; every country pursues its interests - spare me the altruism, at the most it plays a minor role. "Ideals" serve as slogans to hoodwink the sheep; they do not inform action.

In defence I am for ruthless realism. Deal with the unvarnished truth, and abhor wishful thinking. Easy on the propaganda, lest your war take on a life of its own and escape your control. The truth should be good enough, although it might crimp your options. (I do have some knowledge here, having studied war for 40 years, including 31 on full-time service.)

You say that you know what I am against from my "negative rants," so I'll leave it at. But I do protest your claim that I have not "provided ONE actual fact" in some 200 comments on SDA since February.

Now let the ad hominems fly.

D. Trail , irony my man , irony . 'Specially proud of "..delusional smack..". Please don't throw me in with that lot , my shorts fit just fine thank you !

Debris Trail, I'll do some reading tomorrow. Sorry, I don't have a blog.

Bill: LOL My shorts fit fine too... usually

I know this might be a little off topic but there's a new movie out that will likely not be showing at the local cinema 12 anytime soon. It's a documentary outlining where Islam is heading and what the world is in store for. www.obsessionthemovie.com

Johnboy: I just received my copy... awesome and very much recommended. The next time one of my kids gets a teacher who insists they watch Fahrenheit 911, I'm insisting that the class then get to watch obsession...

http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/

Budd...mysoginist imagery? ... the homo-erotic imagery of this thread and most right wing entries about strong leaders and fear, with the oh joy image of big daddy saving them from bad people. Musharraf craps on them and they say "more sir".

Posted by: roger at September 27, 2006 09:26 PM

Roger, I think you are probably right, that is no doubt a background factor leading to the expressed anti-female imagery. Some of it is soooo desperate, the sitting down to urinate one being a particularly revealing sign of personal weakness and insecurity.

Hans: read this in a article entitled: A Battle Lost in the War on Terror, Tony Blankley (RealClearPolitics). Elsewhere, tho', he doesn't blame Musharraf who is obviously between rock and a hard place.

"According to intelligence sources cited by The Fourth Rail and other sources above, the Accord includes: (1) Pakistan to abandon its garrisons in Waziristan, (2) Pakistan military to not operate in or monitor actions in the region, (3) Pakistan to turn over weapons to Waziris, (4) Taliban and al Qaeda to set up a Mujahideen council to administer the region, (5) region to be called "The Islamic Emirate of Waziristan, (6) unknown but substantial amount of money paid by Pakistan to the Taliban, (7) al Qaeda and other jihadis to be allowed to stay in region, (8) 2,500 foreign fighters linked to al Qaeda and Taliban released by Pakistan from their prisons (this fact also confirmed by London's Daily Telegraph), and (9) Taliban to refrain from violence in Pakistan only; the agreement does not stipulate refraining from violence in Afghanistan."

Just read where Germany will now ban the Mozart opera Idomeneo because it might upset the muslims,...the left just continues it's Dr Kevorkian thrill ride.

"Having said that, the leader of a country has no right to criticize Canada after all the effort, time and money that was pumped into his country after the tsunami."

What a ridiculous statement. We helped in their hour of need so you think their leader should just shut the hell up? If he has something that he thinks needs to be said then he is perfectly free to say it. It's called freedom of speech. We may not agree with it but it is certainly within his "rights".

I am for little baby birds and spring mornings .
I am for fairness and warm sweaters.
I too have studied war for 40 years.
Let the adhominems begin.

Blah blah blah
Screw the leftoid "ideas", they would rather lose all that civilization has brought us to date, to score some point in a game that only exists for a nano second in their deranged excuse for a brain.
"I am for .... fill in the freakin blank "
I couldn't care less, really I don't care what you stand for

You are wrong.

It never used to matter that the left was always wrong.
Now it does, now the left is deadly wrong.
Because now the left supports the side that flew airplanes into our buildings and killed our families. They now support the side that tells us they are buiding a big bomb so they can wipe an entire country off the map because they hate them.
Here's my ad hominem; you are wrong and you are deadly. I refuse to entertain any ideas from anyone that can look at the present state of world affairs and side with anything that does not support me, and recognize the deadly threat to me, and merely for boosterism.
It's too deadly.

W.L.Mac; Great going!
Thanks also to everyone filling in so admirably for Kate!

Whom did the General have in mind as a leader?

Taliban Jack Layton, and his allies, Martin-Graham?

Wasn't Prime Minister Harper. Who is the mysterious leader, the General is thinking about? ...-

Dallaire Challenges Canadians to be Leaders
Josh Pringle
Thursday, September 28, 2006

Senator Romeo Dallaire says the concept of peacekeeping has failed in this era.

The former United Nations force commander in Rwanda criticizes Canada, saying "the Canadian Army hasn't been in peacekeeping for the last 15 years."

Speaking in Saskatchewan, Dallaire asked Canadians to be leaders in the "new world disorder."

Dallaire says Canada has ignored humanitarian crises in places such as the Darfur region of Sudan while still touting its role as a world-leading peacekeeper. cfra.com

The support for Musharraf is troubling, given he is seemingly only interested in his personal survival; though, I think, for now, we are stuck with this ally. Also troubling is Layton and P. Martin comments re: Afghanistan. Do they realize they, at best, are proposing leaving the south to the Taliban, while reconstructing the North. Should we sacrifice Kandahar to reconstruct Kabul? This isn't smart from a military or human rights perspective.

Right now, there is more risk of Pakistan rather than Iran giving nuclear technology to terrorists. Why does Madmanjihad want nuclear technology? Maybe this is his use of deterrence, as he sees it in his paranoid world. Nevertheless I argue the doctrine for Iran should be, of course, containment; but, also "ultra-deterrence," where the leadership feels personally threatened, including their place in eternity. These clowns are eager to send others to be martyrs; let's see how they like the prospect for themselves.

Budd,

Why are you on this site? You contribute nothing but insults. It's obvious you can't put together a rational argument. You're a waste of space.

It's time to bounce Budd. Or, this Budd is for leftoids.

richfisher...there is little that the right has done that does not add support to the side that flew airplanes into our buildings. You are osama's fantasy come true. You clusterf_k wars have screwed everything and you aren't learning anything except to invert logic and stay the course.

Why do you hate Canada? It is hypocricy for you to wear red.

Top Video @ FOX: Bin Laden Located?
Pakistani president tells paper he knows where Usama is hiding.

What is Mushy up to these days? The timing of his recent revelations is suspicious. Is he afraid of something? Or was he just biding his time? Reports about UBL's illness/death suggested he was, or is, being treated by Pakistani doctors. So what does Musharraf know?

With recent current affairs, revelations, etc. I'm wondering if the jokes been on us all along or if this is just all political opportunism. Bush and the U.S. are ripe for picking?

The Rock rocks: stands firm.

Prime Minister Harper stands fast.

Will you stand fast with them? ...-

Vatican stands firm on Pope’s controversial comments | September 28th, 2006

UNITED NATIONS - The Vatican Wednesday ignored a call by Islamic foreign ministers at the United Nations for the Pope to retract controversial references he made about Islam.

In a speech before the UN’s annual summit, Archbishop Giovanni Lajolo said people with political influence should be doing all they can to ensure extremists are sidelined.

He also re-explained what the Vatican says His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI had meant when he quoted a medieval Christian emperor who equated Islam with violence. ...-
jack's newswatch

Why would anyone look at or trust the wags and wenches of CBC? Carol is OFF in more ways than one.
As for Paul Martin, he should stay in his hidey hole and work a little harder to come up with something rational to say about current or past events. He's batting zero so far.His fill-in, grunt-boy Willy Graham is given to some pretty irrational statements on any given subject. That's what desperation does, it befuddles.

Richfisher,

congratulations on once again exceeding the standards of this board for ignorance and malice.

"un-, mis- or disinformed" agitfact