The liberanos need to be hanging from the trees on parliment hill like I said years ago. If they don't like the truth thats just 2FN bad.

We are definitely living in INTERESTING TIMES.

The Federal Liberals are REALLY living in interesting times.

The LPC is living in times they have never seen before. Perhaps the MSM is no match for the Internet and the Blogs.

Next corruption airing; The United Nations ??

More from the Censorship Lib Party/Can.

Jason "I am the Voice of the Liberal Party" Cherniak attempts to censor/shut up/shut down a fellow-Lib.

The Liberal Party is the Fascist Party of Canada. ...-

TDH has it wrong

Some bloggers need to come clean about their support in this leadership race.

It is unfortunate that my friends at TDH Strategies did not hear what was happening with the Stephane Dion call before posting. Indeed, they did not even ask. Perhaps, in the future, they could clean out their email box so that messages do not bounce back.

I have to say that if I knew that the good people at TDH Strategies were supporting my campaign, then I would ask them to stop attacking other candidates. I do not have enough information to comment on the Dion campaign's fiscal situation, but I am certain that neither Michael Ignatieff nor Gerard Kennedy would want to be connected to such fear-mongering.

UPDATE

TDH calls me angry. ...-

http://jasoncherniak.blogspot.com/2006/05/tdh-has-it-wrong.html

I am still waiting for the rest of the liberal scandals to surface, or, are they waiting until the next election? After watching Harper over the last while I think he is just keeping his powder dry. I just wish Harper would push his agenda further and force an election that the liberals would be responsible for and totally unprepared.

Doesn't the lawyer's letter violate Section 2b of the Charter, which provides 'freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication'?

The blog was not promoting hatred or discrimination of a group. Slander and libel are only attributive to individuals and have to be proven. So?

Aren't political cartoons similar to this blog?

What about the infamous Liberal ads, that claimed that Harper was going to put the military into our cities. With guns. What about their other ads showing the the Conservatives would harm women? What about their ads showing they would destroy Canada?

My suggestion would be for as many other sites as possible to post the images on their site, as a commentary on the Liberal rejection of Section 2b of the Charter and specifically, of the right to critique.

Does anyone else find it both ironic and deeply offensive that the Liberals in all of their time at the trough set up billions of dollars in legal funds to subsidize their friends' and supporters' charter challenges (to force through agendas not popular enough to win elections on,) funded their own legal defences when caught stealing, funded their own interests with public money, then threaten to sue everyone who dares speak up against them? There's no money to help those sued by the Liberal defend against the liberal's attacks!!

Liberals should be put in camps. In Baffin Island. With no food. In shorts. In winter...

I don't think the liberals have any shortage of lawyers. :P

I guess you have to be a CPCer or at least anti-Liberal to find this amusing and/or interesting.

As I'm neither I find maz2 and company just plain childlike. Taking scraps of nonsense and weaving them into a tapestry of jibberish is something the Chretien Liberals would have done.

maz2, how low will you stoop just to get the attention you crave?

You're taking on the characteristics of the Liebranos and quite frankly I'm not surprised.

Brown,

As usual you talk out of your ass without making a point.

What is your problem with any argument being made on this site? What is incorrect/invalid/logically wrong about what is written here?

If you have no point, don't waste our time.

So, what would happen if, instead of creating individucal websites to mock the lpc moral sinkhole, a graphic was created and distributed, anonymously, to bloggers, who could then post it on their respective (if not respectful) sites?

Would the lpc launch a class action suit? If so, would they have to prove, in court, that there was no truth to the assertion? Can they, at this point in time, afford to focus outward at their detractors while they have a jumble of also-rans vying for their party leadership? If they were to launch an expensive lawsuit, would this allow PMSH to unpack the rest of the boxes at 24 Sussex?

I guess the point here is that the lpc jumping into a legal battle with people who would never vote for them anyway might be a good thing for Canada...... I'm just sayin'

TDH brings into the mud-slinging the "Kroll Report". The Liberal are eating each other/cannibals (politically speaking.)

The big story of the Kroll testimony yesterday wasn't the extra $105 million - it was the fact that parliament was misled. This wasn't the work of a few "rogue" ad executives or civil servants. The extra-parliamentary spending - or as "habamusrodentum" puts it, "a fraud against the government" - was directed by the Prime Minister, the Treasury Board and Public Works Minister.

http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/001997.html

Jason,

You stated this above:

"I do not have enough information to comment on the Dion campaign's fiscal situation..."

So if that's the case, how would you know whether I did fact checking or not?

That is so the truth... Jason is forever admitting he doesn't understand basic accounting or financial matters and then offering his ill-informed opinion as facts. Here's another great example:

I am not an accountant and cannot comment on the Kroll Report. All I can say is that somebody surely would have said something by now if the $1.14 million number was pulled out of thin air.

This was said in response to news that the Canadian government may sue to recover taxpayer funds stolen by the Liberal Party in excess of the amount that was already reimbursed after the Liberal fraud scheme was uncovered — an amount that the Liberal commissioned Kroll Report implies may be inadequate. ...-

More from JC's blog (not Jean C., aka Jeancula).

Warwick,

What is incorrect is taking scraps of anti-Liberal information and spinning them into fodder for biased individuals.

What is invalid is that none of the information comes from validated sources.

What is illogical is adults behaving like children.

The point I'm making is that someone has to stand up and challenge the ramblings created by this form of political nepotism.

Do you want SDA to become the Canadian Taliban, or do you want to be respected and held in high regard?

Brown,

What is incorrect? What specific fact is in dispute?

What is your definition of a "validated" source (especially given the media's penchant for fiction?)

How are the adults acting like children? Examples?

You make accusations with no substance. You can't just say your wrong without backing it up with reason. Other people aren't wrong just because you disagree with what they say. There must be actual facts in dispute. You haven't provided any facts - either your own or even mentioned the facts you claim are wrong. All you have done is claim that other people are this or that without a basis for doing so. This is not an argument.

this is not a free speech thing

the lawyers letter to hezboliberal clearly states it's

"the use of the Liberal Party of Canada's logo and the link to the Liberal Party's website, through the website http://www.hezboliberal.com"

that's the problem

"What is incorrect is taking scraps of anti-Liberal information and spinning them into fodder for biased individuals.

What is invalid is that none of the information comes from validated sources.

What is illogical is adults behaving like children."

You must really hate The Daily Show.

jacobin - the 'use of the logo' is merely the cover for the real issue, which is the rejection by the Liberals of critique against them.

Again, the lawyers referred to slander and libel. This moves out of the logo usage and into critique. But, slander and libel are only referrable to individuals not groups. Or logos. I suggest that this was inserted to frighten the blog owner. The logo argument is weak, for the internet is filled with various versions of logos.

The intent remains - to prevent criticism of the Liberal Party.

to prevent criticism of the Liberal Party

--you maybe right, so challenge them

"the 'use of the logo' is merely the cover for the real issue, which is the rejection by the Liberals of critique against them"

--no one is stopping anybody from starting a site called www.harpercrites.com to critique the former alliance party now known as the conservatives

an eye for eye

According to the star, the Liberals only have $600k in their coffers. Perhaps if, as ET and Warwick suggested, the HezboLiberal graphics were shared across the Conservative blog world, they'd run out of money attempting to defend their 'good reputation.'

Then of course, election time.

(Even in parenthesis, typing 'good reputation' and liberal just about made my stomach turn).

Brown, you must be, without doubt, the dullest, preachiest individual on the internet. So much to tsk, tsk over, so little time...

I wonder how conservatives would react to a Jason Kenney/Conservaterrorists website, seeing as how both Kenney and the PM support Iranian terrorist groups. Do you think the CPC would set their lawyers on anyone who made such a site? No, of course not…..

Jdave,

The difference is that the Liberals can be proven, in their own words, actions and contributions to support terrorism.

In the public arena, given what Liberals have come to stand for, it's also completely believable.

jdave, too true. Considering how many Liberals have been even cozier with these Iranian terrorist groups, it might just push the spotlight somewhere the Liberals just don't need it right now. The Liberals built their glass house, now they have to live in it.

BTW, the trend with D Brown attacking maz2 is getting old. My kudos to maz2 who continues to do what he does without getting into the sad name-calling of the local troll.

Irwin Daisy

lets remember that harpercrites won a minority government with 35% of the votes and since the middleeast fiasco of "measured" response they have lost even more support, especially in quebec, a provinces they need to win a majority

65% of canadians (bloc/ndp/libs/green) support open dialogue with hezbollah, rather than waging war

where are you're killer instincts people?challenge the libs to sue hezboliberals with little money they have left, i dare you, divide and conquer, i dare you

"The difference is that the Liberals can be proven, in their own words, actions and contributions to support terrorism."

You mean like this:

Kenney was photographed at the April rally organized by Iranian supporters of a banned terrorist group.

The picture appears on the website of the National Council of Resistance of Iran, the political wing of the PMOI, or People's Mojahedin Organization of Iran.

The PMOI is one of the names used by the MEK, or Mujaheedin-e-Khalq, an armed Iranian rebel group formally designated as a terrorist organization by the governments of Canada, the United States and the European Union. The Canadian government put the group on its official terror list in May 2005.

Kenney is shown addressing an April 6 rally on Parliament Hill and is quoted as welcoming participants "on his own behalf as well as the prime minister."

Is that what you mean? I'll tell you one thing: If you want a picture of a Liberal hanging out with terrorist supporters, you need someone to photoshop the picture out of thin air. If you want a pic of a conservative hanging out with terrorists, you just have to know which terrorist website to go to.

Conservatives welcoming terrorist supporters to Parliament Hill on behalf of the Prime Minister. Lovely.

jacobin - there are a number of problems withyour post.

The fact that the CPC won by 'only' 35% is a fact of our political structure, not popular vote. Unlike, for example, in the US, we have FOUR key federal parties. That splits the vote into four. One of these, in my view, ought to be rejected as a federal party.

The Bloc operates only in Quebec, is opposed to federalism, has one stated agenda - to separate Quebec from the rest of Canada. It has moved into a hidden agenda - pensions, salaries and benefits from the citizens of the Rest of Canada. It should not be permitted to run in federal elections. Since it is, it operates as a 'default' for Quebecois, who, since time immemorial, reject collaboration with the anglophones, which includes both the ROC and the US.

The left is further split into the Union Boys, the NDP, who champion the worker and the social science and humanities postmodern academics. And the Hug-a-Thug Boys, the Liberals, who champion the bureaucrats and state-run enterprises.

Now, with FOUR federal parties, and one operating only in the second largest population province, the statistics can't be anything other than winning by about 35%. OK?

Remember also that Quebec, despite its lessening population, and unlike any other province, is guaranteed 75 seats in the House. That is why it is 'necessary' to win in Quebec. Not because of any desirable qualities of Quebecers. But because of that constitutional 'ice cream cone' of 75 seats.

As far as Quebecers and wars, it's also a fact that they reject doing anything for anyone anywhere in the world. That includes wars, which are sometimes necessary, as well as donations to those in need.

You may consider the ME a 'fiasco' but others disagree.

You are quite wrong that 65% of Canadians support dialogue with Hezbollah. Your error is to add up the percentage of seats in parliament, by political party, and to translate those percentages as also meaning Canadian support for Hezbollah dialogue. You can't do that; that's statistically and methodologically false.

SDA the Canadian Taliban!!

Guess we better start beheading all our political opponents and begin stoning women.

What a jerk!

ET and everyone else, don't bother with this jacobin guy. He's been spending a lot of time over at Daimnation posting equally dumb things. He's the troll's troll, the lefty's lefty.

jacobin, meet Tinkerbell.

Tinkerbell, jacobin is a believer for you to play with.

Kate,

I don't really hate The Daily Show, I find it and shows like SNL's Weekend Update a tad boring.

I'm looking forward to the day that George Bush is no longer in office and enough time has passed so he and his stupid smirk can go on these shows. It'll be a real treat to watch him satirize his presidency.

"Me and Dick sent our sons and daughters to be slaughtered in a war we knew we couldn't win so that daddy could settle an ole score with them Baathist folks...hardy har har"

jacobin is stretching his coverage. Normally, he stays at ChuckerCanuck posting "Harper is scary", over and over and over and over.......

Does this Grabitall scam now mean that they will be going after their pet lapdogs, the CBC Comedy Krew? Mercer, 22 Minutes etc, use (authorized? not likely but if "yes", very interesting, to say the least.) Liberal Logos and Personalities, freely?

Not freakin' likely. There's an election coming and the boys in red really need the MotherCorp Nimrods.

as far as quebecers and wars

they are hundreds of quebecers right now in afghanistan FIGHTING AND DYING...idiot!

and when canada was a british colony, french quebecers fought under the queen during WW1 and WW2

geez, i have fans where ever i go ;)

Folks, as I have noted at Daimnation, think of Jacobin as the Unabomber writing in the style of ee cummings. And treat him accordingly.

Mirror Mirror on the web.
Who's the party that's already dead.

Mirror of Hezboliberal page: http://www.geocities.com/l8f57/

according to ET canada will never be able to a majority government ever again!

Obviously the lawyers were counting on exactly what has happened...to save the ISP from further problems, he did the kind and respectful thing and took the site down. I totally understand and, in the same circumstances, I probably would do the same. But, I still wish that he hadn't relented.

I know that a person should choose their battles carefully. But, I think this counts as a worthy battle. If dozens of mirrors of the site were set up (with ISP's overseas), it would serve two great purposes.

1) It would get more attention for the sites (and more negative attention on the Liberals, the deeds that inspired the sites, and their anti-free speech platform in wanting them taken down).

2) It would continue to drain money from the Liberal coffers. Hey, some of that money is mine and I would love to see it spent this way.

Furthermore, the great cliché "David vs. Goliath" battle might actually result in some serious laws in this country about satire and its legitimacy. I mean what is the problem here? Do the Liberals really think that people would go to these sites and think that it was actually a LPC site? Is anyone making money off of the site (using their trademark brands)? Without these, I don't see where they have a case.

I would make a donation to the defense fund. And I think the sheer numbers of those who are like-minded could really force the Liberals to back down.

Funny how conservatives don't seem to have a problem with the fact that Jason Kenney has actively supported terrorist organizations. Are there any conservatives out there that aren't total hypocrites? Or are you all doing as you're told and looking the other way when one of your own steps in it. Say what you will, but at least Liberal supporters aren't scared of criticizing their own party.

Mirror Mirror on the Wall
The Liberal Party is so dull.

A mirror of the Hezboliberal site has been setup at www.geocities.com/l8f57

(hopefully this post will make it through the filter).

There is a zip file called hl.zip that contains all the files required to setup more mirrors of this site.

bryceman do it!

"Local and regional institutions have enabled people of like mind to mould rules such that one candidate's interest is enhanced, while others' interests are impeded."

Looks good on ya!
Live by the sword, die by the sword; criminal f*&%wits.

Thanks '57 for the link. That is exactly what should happen; the site should sprout up everywhere on the Net.

Remember, this is not about logos; that's trivial. It's not about hate speech. It's not about slander or libel. It's freedom of speech to mock and critique. That's a guaranteed right, despite the Liberals claiming that any thoughts other than directed by them are 'unCanadian'.

I'll take the advice of others and not reply to jacobin, whose comments are all, everyone of them, factually and logically invalid anyway.

As for jdave34, your comment is factually wrong. Kenney did not support a terrorist group. The group who approached him claimed not to be allied with any such agenda; therefore your claim that he actively supported terrorism is slander.

You are ignoring intention. He had no intention of supporting a terrorist group, whereas the Liberals/NDP did support a terrorist group. They knew whom they were talking about; Kenney didn't know the group was a false front for a terrorist group. You don't seem to be interested in facts.

Your second false claim is that you ignore the fact that he didn't support terrorism - all he stated was that he supported democracy and freedom in Iran. Period.

"Liberal supporters aren't scared of criticizing their own party."
I wonder if Nunziatta would agree?
Oh right;... he's not allowed in the liberal party.

ET: your spinning sounds an awful lot like the kind of spinning conservatives accuse liberals of.

Was Kenney at the rally?
Did he offer his and the PM's support and welcome?
Did he vet the organization?
Are they affiliated with terrorists?
Is his picture on their website?

conservaterrorists.ca

I like the sound of that. And I could put REAL photos on there.

Re: copyright issues. Why not change the name and logo? Hezbolieberal might work. How about Hezbolibrano? You will have to rework the logo though; try incorporating a brown envelope somewhere.

Well, about 100K John Gormley Live radio listeners in Saskatchewan are in on the story now.

Lawyers letters are worth their weight in gold.

The problem is that the parody site was too literal, in particular in the use of the registered trademark and brand name, which then allows the claim of libel to be legitimately made. By changing a letter in the name, and tweaking the logo slightly, this problem would have been avoided.

Let this be a lesson to all amature parodists. We are fortunate to live in a society that is relatively tolerant of this stuff, and that's good, but there are limits recognized by law, and they, to a degree, are good too.

vitruvius:

Thanks for the 411. I'll keep that in mind....

Censorship by the Liberal Party of Canada, May 2004. ...-

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Man,

You call conservatives out on their hypocrisy, and it's like turning on a light in a roach-infested room: All the critters go scurrying for cover.

Sorry I ruined your thread.

jdave,

here is a link you might enjoy.
http://www.mojahedin.org/mojahedinEn/resistance/792.html

Looks to me like Mr Kenney was looking after these so called protected people on behalf of the Liberal party. After all Mr Tonks is the Liberal party's Associate critic for democratic reform. If he say's the group is democratic who is Mr Kenney to argue

I don't know which is worse:

Kenney supporting terrorism, or Kenney collaborating with a Liberal. My god, conservative supporters must be all conflicted over this.

BTW: Did Mr. Tonks appear at their rally offering his and the PM's support?

The left never learns; they think if they say something enough times it'll come true.

Sorry jdave34, that's a boring old story that never was and never will be, despite your attempts to blow some life into it.

Jdave..you are not going to find too many fish biting on your lure on this issue..the differences between what Kenney did as opposed to what the 3 stooges did on their junket are quite obvious,perhaps even to you.

The 3 thought that they would use a taxpayer funded club in which to bash PMSH over the head with , in regards to the middle east policy of the Conservatives.How 'd that work for ya?

You can keep pushing at the non-starters in this issue, or maybe you can be brutally honest with yourself.Perhaps it starts with your own discomfort over your chosen few to actively engage in supporting terrorism.How does this sit with the left,knowing that they have become the hotbed of Dhimmitude,bigotry and anti- semetism?

Tough week i would say...keep it up!

jdave34 - nobody is biting. You've made multiple posts saying the same thing, and my troll tolerance at the moment is zero.

Leave Jdave alone, he cannot grasp facts he will just repeat the same thing over and over,

"Kenny was at a terrorist rally blah,blah,blah" still after ET destroys his argument.

But hey when have liberals used facts.

i wonder how many of you remember this?
maybe the CPC has a better sense of humour than it's alliance predecessor. of course, conservatives are known for their senses of humour. harper is one funny guy.

Shouldn't that be the Mafiafroggoliberal Party of Canada?

Here is a mirror of the mirror:

http://geocities.com.nyud.net:8090/l8f57/

I didn't expect it to be this popular. Oh well.

ET destroyed me?

Really? Funny, I saw hair-splitting and excuse making. Precisely what Liberals are constantly accused of. And his contention that Kenney didn't know holds no water. He's got a staff that gets paid to sniff this crap out. Either he knew a they were connected to terrorism and thought he could win back some Muslim votes without anyone making the connection, or he's an idiot.

"Leave Jdave alone, he cannot grasp facts"

Hilarious. A high-profile Conservative MP stands on stage with a group that supports terrorism, he ADMITS that they were vetted by his staff, and a photo does the rounds of him at the event, welcoming the terrorist supporters on his and the Prime Minister's behalf.

Yet when presented with this set of very well-established facts, Conservatives accuse ME of not being able to grasp facts.

No wonder you get called Harpercrites.

Do you people actually read what you write? Seriously. All of you are on drugs.

You make things way too easy for me.

jdave just doesn't realize that his "story" has been sussed out already last week. He's late to the party and just trying to catch up. Have another one, j!

In respect to vitruvius (and the Lib lawyers), since the logo seems to be the sticking point, someone should tweak the logo and get this back up el pronto. Then we'll see if the lawyers come out with another letter more explicitly stating issues re: slander and libel. They're hiding behind copyright infringement now and probably don't want to lose their cover.

jdave34,

Before a tiny mushroom cloud appears over your hard drive. Leave it alone buddy.

You should have figured out by now that only conservatives hold a monopoly on facts and knowledge. Everything they do is correct and everything liberals do is wrong.

This is embarrassing!

It really illustrates how small Canadians are compared to her neighbour to the south.

Could you imagine the Republican party or the Democratic party unleashing their high profiled lawyers onto websites that composed satirical or unflattering commentary on their members, activities or policies? And why stop there? What about political cartoons? I've even seen such cartoons recreate likenesses of "copy written" logos and registered "trademarks." There ought to be a law!

The point has nothing to do with whether or not the parody was accurate or not. The point isn't even if it was good satire or not.

The point is that this bastion of Canadian political parties has made itself look like the little boy who gets his dad to deal with the other kids who were picking on him in the playground.

I'm sure this site would have dwindled down to a few hits a day after everyone got a chance to see it once. Now they've reminded everyone who's seen (or never seen) this website about it all over again.

Thanks for the screen shot but I already received a copy via e-mail
and I presume many other Canadians did as well.

Took me a few seconds to realize it actually was a parody.

jacobin: "and when canada was a british colony, french quebecers fought under the queen during WW1 and WW2"

Well, considering that it was a King in England during both wars, I'm already ready to dismiss this as nonsense. But you might look up the Conscription Crises of 1917 and 1944, where mostly French Canadians protested against a draft. Sure, there were some French Canadian soldiers, but their numbers were disproportionately below their percentage of the population.

Incidentally
with regard to my previous comment
I am NOT recommending that anyone here
e-mail your screen shot to their friends.

I would not want to see anyone get in trouble with the HezboLibrano party.

jdave give your head a shake with any luck it might dislodge from your rectum. Jake

That was the best thing I have read in ages jake. Thanks ROTFLMAO

Jake:

Hire new writers.

w3.westernstandard.ca/liberal/liberal.html

Ezra explains himself at westernstandard.blogs.com
...plus he thumbs his nose at the Liberal lawyers.

It's like Kate opening a can of whoop-ass on Paul Wells.

I just read Ezra's esaay and I stand corrected. The trademark claims, according to Ezra, don't hold in a parody like this. To the degree he is correct, I was wrong.

Crooked Libranos Pimping, Whoring For Iggy's Leadership Bid Cash

http://thecanadiansentinel.blogspot.com/2006/08/crooked-libranos-pimping-whoring-for.html

In the streets.

In the cities.

In Canada.

I did not make this up.

Choose your Canada.

Thanks to Ezra and the Western Standard for picking up the site.
That's exactly the point, that letter had no 'meat' in it; it was all and only bullying.

The parody site had nothing to do with trademarks, and nothing to do with slander or libel. The onus is on the plaintiff (the Liberals) and there is no way they could show harm done to themselves by that site.

And, they are violating Section 2 of our Charter, our right to freedom of expression and opinion.

That site wasn't a 'hate site'; it was a parody, exactly as are many political cartoons, exactly as is The Royal Canadian Air Farce and 22 Minutes.

The Liberals reject free speech.

W. Kinsella wants in on the $$$$$$$$$$. W. is a lwayer. ...-

Quote:
"Get ready for more cases like this one.

It's about time." ...-

"Me and Dick sent our sons and daughters to be slaughtered in a war we knew we couldn't win so that daddy could settle an ole score with them Baathist folks...hardy har har" David Brown

David Brown,

What planet do you live on? The war was won April 9, 2003. Since then the only issue is how long it will take to eliminate or pacify the leftist-supported terrorists who refuse to accept the will of the Iraqi people - as demonstrated in 3 elections.

Despite the undying world wide encouragement of moronic leftists, Iraqis aren't going back. Whether it takes another year or ten to completely pacify the country, the terrorists, and the fact-challenged leftists who support them, are not going to win in Iraq. So take comfort in your apparent propaganda victory - it defies demographics and is temporary.

I find WK's reaction quite suprising for a hard-nosed Irishman. The site is so obviously parodic, not really any different than say, The Onion. It's just humorous commentary.

The title alone -- "Hezboliberal" -- obviates any concerns that anyone could think it was a Liberal site.

Or does it? Hmm...

Break out the jackboots and brown shirts, the Libs are comming to town......

Aparently, the Libs havn't fully used the enema kit they received in the last election and continue to use truth, justice and freedom as their personal punching bag.

WK must know full well there's no case here. He's trying to put the threat out and cheer up the troops.

Iggy's On-Line Auction here: $$$$$$$$$$$

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Guarnieri is not the only MP, however, who apparently lacks drawing power.

A round of golf with former minister John McCallum has fetched only $31 so far. A chance to go deep-sea fishing with Prince Edward Island MP Joe McGuire has drawn a high bid of only $23. ...-

Make your bids here:

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There were *legal threat* phone calls to the Dominion E-paper [Halifax], from the PMO*s office when the Libranos were in power.

The Dominion was writing razor copy about various librano scams at the time.

The adventure was covered in detail in the Dominion and the general support of readers was enough to make the phone calls stop.

Not a legal leg to stand on.

What*s old is new again. = TG

Terry Gain

"The war was won April 9, 2003"

--are you for real???

American Deaths

Since war began 2636
Since "Mission Accomplished" 2499
Since Capture of Saddam 2169

American Wounded

estimated 20000 - 48100

--no end in sight, tour after tour after tour

--What planet do you live on?

Jacobin

I'm talking about the war in Iraq-not the propaganda war in America. I was addressing the inevitability of the result, not the process of getting there. Every death of an Ameican soldier should be mourned by a grateful world. The American soldier is there by choice and is proud of his mission. The number of deaths is low by historical standards.

The figures you cite do not add to victory for the insurgents. They control no territory and have little popular support in Iraq- even as leftists here cheer them on. They are simply delaying the inevitable.

Those who see no end in sight have no vision.

Jacobin

I'm talking about the war in Iraq-not the propaganda war in America. I was addressing the inevitability of the result, not the process of getting there. Every death of an Ameican soldier should be mourned by a grateful world. The American soldier is there by choice and is proud of his mission. The number of deaths is low by historical standards.

The figures you cite do not add to victory for the insurgents. They control no territory and have little popular support in Iraq- even as leftists here cheer them on. They are simply delaying the inevitable.

Those who see no end in sight have no vision.

we've got it up now: www.hezboliberal.no-libs.com

Thanks for the link to the source files!

The putrid smoke/smell of Liberal/leftish anti-semitism hangs in the air. ...-

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"...how low will you stoop just to get the attention you crave?

Velly intelesting?

Who said that?

Here it is: at August 29, 2006 12:01 PM

jdave:

Try peddling your 'Conservatives support terrorism' theme to the rest of the country and see if it's believable.

On the other hand,

Liberals supporting terrorism (albeit through outright stupidity and absolute lack of moral judgement) is entirely believable.

Maybe Terry Grain can spare a few moments and tell us how the americans won the war in Viet Nam. Iraq's "democratically" elected government controlls a few sparse acres in the Green Zone. The rest of the country is in a state of civil war. There are not enough U.S. and British troops in country to stem the violence. So a tough choice will have to be made, either dramatically increase the number of allied troops, or pull out.

Big kudos to Ezra Levant. Twice when freedom of expression was seriously under threat in this country -- first due to the self-censorship of the media in the face of Islamist violence (in the case of the Danish Cartoons), and now when the Liberals are attempting to bully the blogosphere -- he has stepped up to the plate.

I have to add that I am surprised and a bit disappointed by WK's reaction to the Liberal bullying. As one commenter elsewhere put it, apparently it's okay for him to follow around conservatives and mock their religious beliefs (the Barney-suit incidents), but not okay for someone to post a clearly parodic site which makes use of actual quotes and statements and behaviours from Liberals. Now I'm having a hard time figuring out where he stands, exactly.

'Maybe Terry Grain (sic) can spare a few moments and tell us how the americans won the war in Viet Nam." don

don,
I've never claimed they did. So don, we begin by noting that you are a liar who erects straw men to prove a point. Sorry to rain on your stereotype.

As to the rest of your post, your use of quotation marks around-- "democratically" elected, gives you away as dishonest. No serious person claims this government was not democratically elected-even those of us who were disappointed that more secularists were not elected.

Your statement that "the rest of the country is in a state of civil war" is patently false. Eighteen of the 21 provinces are peaceful and what is happening in the other 3 cannot reasonably be described as a civil war -as much as the left wishes it were.

As regrettable as one hundred deaths a day may be, describing this as a civil war is ludicrous. The insurgent thugs represent no one but themselves (and their leftist supporters).

Depsite the unconscionable encouragement of leftists and Islamists they have nothing to offer Iraqis but death, heartache and extremism and thus they are bound to fail.

I agree with you that more troops are a good idea. Unfortunately politics is the art of the possible and the left has shown they don't support the levels of troops there now. So look in the mirror and put the blame where it belongs.

To summarize: Iraq will be pacified though clearly not as quickly as it would have been if leftists, including most especially the MSM, had not offered such unbridled encouragement to the terrorists.

'Maybe Terry Grain (sic) can spare a few moments and tell us how the americans won the war in Viet Nam." don

don,
I've never claimed they did. So don, we begin by noting that you are a liar who erects straw men to prove a point. Sorry to rain on your stereotype.

As to the rest of your post, your use of quotation marks around-- "democratically" elected, gives you away as dishonest. No serious person claims this government was not democratically elected-even those of us who were disappointed that more secularists were not elected.

Your statement that "the rest of the country is in a state of civil war" is patently false. Eighteen of the 21 provinces are peaceful and what is happening in the other 3 cannot reasonably be described as a civil war -as much as the left wishes it were.

As regrettable as one hundred deaths a day may be, describing this as a civil war is ludicrous. The insurgent thugs represent no one but themselves (and their leftist supporters).

Depsite the unconscionable encouragement of leftists and Islamists they have nothing to offer Iraqis but death, heartache and extremism and thus they are bound to fail.

I agree with you that more troops are a good idea. Unfortunately politics is the art of the possible and the left has shown they don't support the levels of troops there now. So look in the mirror and put the blame where it belongs.

To summarize: Iraq will be pacified though clearly not as quickly as it would have been if leftists, including most especially the MSM, had not offered such unbridled encouragement to the terrorists.