The top United Nations aid official said today that Canadas’s military offensive in the Panjwaii region of Afghanistan is a “disproportionate use of force” but he again emphasized that all sides were guilty of violating humanitarian law.*.Jan Egeland, the Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs and Emergency Relief Coordinatorwas was reacting to reports that "as many as 72 Taliban insurgents were killed in fighting with Canadian and Afghan forces in Panjwaii that began in the early evening Saturday..."
There were no Canadian casualties.
Egeland pointed to the unequal loss of life as evidence of Canadian heavy-handedness in the conflict.
“This was clearly a disproportionate use of force,” he said during a visit that included an inspection of mud huts destroyed by a NATO air strike. Thousands of civilians have fled the conflict.
"Canadians must take responsibility for not limiting the losses inflicted on the Taliban to numbers more in line with their own paltry losses in this conflict."
No attempt was made to contact Canada's Foreign Affairs Department officials for reaction, but the Harper government came under heavy criticism from opposition members who expressed concern with their "apparent lack of diplomatic efforts" to resolve the conflict.
When asked if he were in favour of the Taliban being taken off the terror list, Etobicoke Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj said: "Yes, I would be."
Editor's Note - prompted by one of our readers, I would like to recommend the well known blogsite Scrappleface as supplemental reading.
Where are all the crazies on the side of common sense and the protection of our way of life? Stand up and be counted. Use a little Disproportionate force on the likes of idiot Egeland.
Posted by: Western Canadian at August 21, 2006 12:06 PMI'm almost speechless.
I can't be interpreting this correctly, because it seems to state that we should ensure that an equal number of our guys and Taliban fighters are killed in each conflict.
I'm almost speechless.
Posted by: Caveat at August 21, 2006 12:08 PMI'm glad that he said this. The un are like the liberals, death of a thousand cuts. Keep yapping Jan, you idiot.
Posted by: multirec at August 21, 2006 12:08 PMExcellent analogy, Kate!
It really shows the total lack of intellectual and moral vigor on the part of Israel's western critics.
Posted by: Dave at August 21, 2006 12:09 PMRe: UN's Response
You...have...got...to...be...kidding!!
72 - 0
I don't think we could have done that well if we played the Taliban at hockey.
I am so proud our military, I could burst!!
Posted by: John at August 21, 2006 12:10 PMNice parody, way to bring the point home!
Posted by: jwp at August 21, 2006 12:11 PMPlease ,72 dippers or liberals stand up to even the count.
Posted by: cal2 at August 21, 2006 12:11 PMThis reminds me of an old Star Trek episode where two worlds had sanitized war to the point of disposing of x amount of their own people according to a computer war game. Frikkin' idiots like Egeland figure if the casualties are the same on both sides then everything is fine and the UN has an unlimited source of things to resolution on.
Flashback, young Jan :"Bwaaaaa, you sunk my battleship". (with appologies to Hasbro)
Posted by: Texas Canuck at August 21, 2006 12:13 PMActually,I believe Liberal MP Wrzesnewsky is quoted as wanting Hezbullah off the terrorist list,NOT the Taliban.
Still,it's a typical pussified,naive liberal statement.
Did the honourable(?) members visit Israel at all? I didn't think so.
I hear there are still some seats on the junket to Venezuela.
Posted by: Texas Canuck at August 21, 2006 12:20 PMHow gullible are some of the commenters above?
Posted by: Jonesy at August 21, 2006 12:22 PMJust had to be: Borys is a Trudeaupian.
Borys's Excellent Adventure in Somalia (Where I Find My Idol/Hero, PET). ...-
"My first night, I met the Prime Minister, the minister of planning and international development, and the President (whose profile uncannily resembles Pierre Trudeau's). Mr. Yusuf spoke of his years in the Somali army, his 12 years as a political prisoner in an Ethiopian jail, and his determination to create a working democratic federal republic." ..-
http://ayaanhirsiali.web-log.nl/ayaanhirsiali/2005/08/198_somalia_dem.html
The horrifying thing is that this COULD have been a legitimate article......there are certainly those who would be eager to write/print it.
BTW....I checked a number of International News sources, including NZTV, and NOT ONE mentioned Canadians being involved in the latest hostilities.....it was all "Afghan & NATO troops".
So much for those who talk incessantly of "Canada's Worldwide Reputation".
Posted by: Nemo2 at August 21, 2006 12:52 PMThe horrifying thing is that this COULD have been a legitimate article......there are certainly those who would be eager to write/print it.
BTW....I checked a number of International News sources, including NZTV, and NOT ONE mentioned Canadians being involved in the latest hostilities.....it was all "Afghan & NATO troops".
So much for those who talk incessantly of "Canada's Worldwide Reputation".
Posted by: Nemo2 at August 21, 2006 12:54 PMThis definately qualifies as Useful Idiot Quote of the day!
I'll be posting this one at my other site this evening.
http://theusefulidiots.blogspot.com/
Posted by: Richard at August 21, 2006 12:56 PMOh, this is a p-a-r-o-d-y. Honestly, Kate, you've got to make it more obvious. I just thought you got your facts wrong, and I'm not the dullest knife in the drawer.
Still, once you realize it's a parody, it makes a good point. Indeed, Canada's sovereignty was never violated the way Israel's was.
Posted by: rabbit at August 21, 2006 12:56 PMI keep saying this, but nobody ever listens. I'll try again:
The UN is a cold-war institution that was designed as a means to AVOID making decisions while talking a lot and keeping up a polite face. As such, it is currently living up to it's design specs. Lots of talk, fairly polite, ZERO decisions.
Don't like the results? Stop funding the worthless gas-factory.
Posted by: mojo at August 21, 2006 12:57 PMThese same butsuckers who would advocate that we take it easy on the poor murdering bastards would allow and have allowed the death of (millions?) of innocent civilian victims at the hands of those same groups.
They are hypocrites of the worst sort.
"Measured and proportionate response" would logically involve similar numbers on the side of Taliban/Hezbollah/Hamas/PLO/ etc.
The taliban have become predictable, the result was a trap set & sprung.
Lesson . . don't screw with Canadian soldiers. We fight like we play hockey - elbows up.
Posted by: Fred at August 21, 2006 1:00 PMWell I'll be, I have been hornswaggled for this one! Guess the jokes on me
Posted by: Richard at August 21, 2006 1:02 PMMoi oussi.
Note to self, drink coffee...clear head and THEN read!
Heh.
Good point. The anti-semites aren't calling on "proportion" here, are they? It's only Israel who aren't allowed to kill terrorists that are trying to exterminate them.
Posted by: Warwick at August 21, 2006 1:09 PMHaving been caught a few times by Mark Collins' Cannonball Press parodies, I'm proud of myself for recognizing a spoof right out of the gate.
Posted by: Mississauga Matt at August 21, 2006 1:12 PMmeanwhile, in Buford Butte, SK,
A retaliatory home incursion has left 2 local men dead. The 2 brothers had entered an area farmer's home with blazing guns in an apparent attempt to locate and kill the farmer and his family. The father of the deceased has explained to this reporter that his boys weren't thugs, but rather were trying to make things right after learning that the farmer was receiving money in exchange for the crops her grew and the animals he raised; money the brothers had never been offered. Both boys were killed when the resident grabbed a hunting rifle from his collection and brutally gunned down the misunderstood young men. Their father said that the boys had not known what they were getting into because a cursory check with their local MP had shown no firearms registered to anyone in the residence.
A preliminary investigation has shown that the youngsters had been brandishing a tiny .22 caliber rifle, a little 9mm modified assault rifle and one of them had a mostly harmless .38 caliber revolver in his waistband when they were killed. A judge has ruled that the massive 30.06 caliber moose hunting cannon used by the farmer was clearly not a measured response to the situation and is further evidenced by the disproportionate number of casualties on each side of the conflict.
The local NDP MPP, I. Manass, has suggested that justice in this case will only be served by having the clearly out of control homeowner remit possession of the deadly weapon to the father of the slain boys, who will then use it to eliminate the farmer's wife and daughter.
Manass claims, "Only in this way will we see that everyone has received fair and equal treatment. This will show the world how Canadian values should be a beacon to the dienfranchised from the less progressive western democracies in North America....north of Mexico....and around the world."
Photos of the crime scene will not be available until tomorrow as our editor has just received the latest version of Photoshop "Dust-b-Gone" software and needs some time to make sure the pictures are appropriate for public perusal.
Posted by: Rob R at August 21, 2006 1:13 PM*blush* Call me gullible if you like...but it was certainly believable...
Posted by: Caveat at August 21, 2006 1:14 PMJan Engelund: take a half pound stick of C4, insert about 50 ball bearings, attach detonation fuse, shove it about six inches up your rectum, then light the fuse. In three seconds, you will see how much "PROPORTION" an Islamic splodydope commits evrey day.
Sarcastic enough?
Posted by: Doug at August 21, 2006 1:17 PMmaybe the taliban will switch from the soft helmets that cover their soft skulls.
Posted by: cal2 at August 21, 2006 1:19 PMHere's the thing.
I've read some reports that say that the Taliban has been targeting Canadian troops as the weakest link in the coalition. This just doesn't make sense from a soldiering perspective. Canuck troops have always fought hard and well. Could it mean that Canada has the weakest political will? Could it mean that Jack Layton et al and their vocal unprincipled opposition to the mission is putting troops in harm's way?
A parody! Not fair. Too close to the truth to be a parody...I was fooled...blood pressure went up. It could easily have been real...
Posted by: BillBC at August 21, 2006 1:21 PM"I've read some reports that say that the Taliban has been targeting Canadian troops as the weakest link in the coalition."
not Canadians troops - they targeted Canada because they think CANADIANS are the weak link, that the home front is soft.
Not a good plan given the battlefied results. Maybe they should have picked on the French - they actually have a history of collapsing shortly after the first bullet is fired.
Hey - lets send a couple of MP's one Liberal, one NDP to go see a couple of Taliban body bag piles. They could report back on the criminality of soldiers killing enemies.
Hmmmmmm I wonder who we could send ??
Anyone have and MP's names to recommend ??
Posted by: Fred at August 21, 2006 1:28 PMIt is becoming more clear everyday. The UN is dangerous to Canada's democracy. Google Maurice Strong , a Canadian. It will all become VERY CLEAR.
Posted by: B. HOAX AWARE at August 21, 2006 1:32 PMI think some of our soldiers should be asked to commit suicide to even the score a little. That's only fair.
Posted by: greenmamba at August 21, 2006 1:44 PMThe UN will be flying two flags - Jan Egeland will be holding the white surrender one and the French guy with the yellow stripe on his back of his shirt will be holding the Hezbollah flag.
UN be damned!
It sounds like you folks would enjoy this:
http://rightwingnytimes.cf.huffingtonpost.com/
Remember: It's a parody.
Posted by: Jaymeister at August 21, 2006 1:52 PM...quick, does Canada even have enough military to do a disproportionate use of force?
I agree with above post where Jan Egeland is musing equal amounts of deaths on both sides. Where do these people stick their heads at night?
Jan Egeland is todays' winner of the "Useful Idiot's" award` gvie her a hand.
Posted by: tomax7 at August 21, 2006 1:56 PM wow......did any of you actually click on the links provided? this is a hoax! you're all so willing to suckle at kate's teat that you never even bother to question her posts! even when she willingly fucks with you heads. think for yourselves occasionally.
Hey Jeff
I think they were using the left side of their brain :)
Posted by: jwp at August 21, 2006 2:13 PMAll parodies aside, can't we just bomb the UN and the Media? Please?
We can send the big B52 bombers full of MOABs to level the lot of them. I'd start with the UN then go directly to al-BBC, then to al-CBS, al-CBC and al-NYT. After that you go down the list to al-LA times, al-Washington Post, Al-Toronto "red" Star, the al-Globe and Mail... until there's no more al-terrorist supporting, jew-hating a$$holes in any position of power.
Posted by: Warwick at August 21, 2006 2:15 PMCritical reading skills 101 boys and girls. Jan is a he not a she. At least not yet... that I'm aware of.
Posted by: Fergy at August 21, 2006 2:15 PMJan Egeland is a "pussy whipped" Swede male, or as AHnold would say "girly man."
Posted by: Joe Molnar at August 21, 2006 2:20 PMI forget who said it, but in war, if it's a fair fight, you didn't plan it well.
If the UN was interested in ending war, they wouldn't complain about 'disproportionate responses'. Proportionate responses just allow for escalation of the conflict. Disproportionate responses cut to the chase. And since the Taliban cannot hope to outgun NATO, this would hopefully mean their demise is imminent.
And isn't that the whole point in this mission?
Posted by: Half Canadian at August 21, 2006 2:30 PMFor starters, the UN and Kofi Annan are no friends of Israel.They just aren't capable of dealing with a democratic state, it's something foreign to too many of the despots and dictators which make up that body. So Annan would consider defending one's country against an agressor, in this case terrorists fed by Iran and Syria, disproportionate force, to bomb after being bombed. We've had enough useless opinion and chatter from that ineffectual body and it's useless head, it's time for a clean up,
B Hoax Aware: The name Maurice Strong, currently hiding out in China somewhere, should send us all running for cover. What a disaster.
Jeff: You are disgusting . You should be banned for posting such vile language/thoughts on this blog. We have many serious problems in our world which need serious thought and opinion and your trash-talk is no solution to anything.
Posted by: Liz J at August 21, 2006 2:35 PMFrankly, I think the UN is as dead as the League of Nations. The time has come that Canada abandons that international, socialist gang of corruption and hypocrisy.
Posted by: JanPieterzoonCoen at August 21, 2006 2:37 PMSeems alot of people missed that this was a parody, though the fact it is hard to distinguish as being a parody is probably just sign of the times...
Posted by: CanForce 101 at August 21, 2006 2:45 PMI believe that the 2 party "fact" finding mission was minus a third when the Conservative (rightly) withdrew from this junket.I imagine that he saw the writing on the wall.None of you actually thought these idiots would do or say anything to back Canadas' position , do you?
Just another tax payer funded club to bash PMSH with i am afraid...
Posted by: kurskss at August 21, 2006 2:46 PMCanada has pledged thirty million bucks for the rebuilding of Lebanon, the most of any country so far. I'd hate to see how much it would've cost had the Israeli invasion not been "measured."
Posted by: Bob at August 21, 2006 3:04 PMKeep doing the parody Kate. It keeps your site from starting to be an echo chamber.
Posted by: Fergy at August 21, 2006 3:05 PMOh crap Kate, that was one the best you've posted in a while... I damn near pissed myself laughing when I read it.
UN is just pissed because it's a NATO operation.
Posted by: William Macdonell AKA Joe Calgary at August 21, 2006 3:14 PMWhy are there so many people who think this is real? Wouldn't "SDANewsNet" ring a bell? There's a difference between reading news and vacuuming it. Excellent satire, though ...
Posted by: Andy at August 21, 2006 3:28 PMhttp://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/216286/1/.html
The above url isn't a parody.
Posted by: multirec at August 21, 2006 3:32 PMThe Canadian military is the weak link over there
With no helocopters all supplies are carried out by convoy. Thats the weak link the convoys.And we all know who is responsible for Canada not having proper air support yup the LIBERALS make me want to spit
Iraq War/Radical Muslims –
Please take the time to read this essay by Dr. Vernon Chong. It is without a doubt the most articulate and convincing writing I have read regarding the War in Iraq. If you have any doubts please open your mind to his essay and give a fair evaluation. It's also eerily applicable to other current issues ( Iran 's nuclear program, immigration, NAFTA's impact on American jobs, trade deficits, etc.). I had no idea who Dr. Chong is ,or the source of these thoughts. so when I received them, I almost deleted them - as well-written as they are. But then I did a "Google search" on the Doctor and found him to be a retired Air Force Surgeon of all things and past Commander of Wilford Hall Medical Center in San Antonio (Air Force Hospital). So he is real, is connected to Veterans affairs in California , and these are his thoughts. They are worth reading and thinking about! (the same Google search will direct you to some of his other thought-provoking writings.)
If you would like to see who this fellow is, go to this Air Force web sight and look him up. http://www.af.mil/bios/alpha.asp?alpha=C
Subject: Muslims, terrorist and the USA : A different spin on Iraq war.
This WAR is for REAL! Dr. Vernon Chong, Major General, USAF, Retired
Tuesday, July 12, 2005
To get out of a difficulty, one usually must go through it. Our country is now facing the most serious threat to its existence, as we know it, that we have faced in your lifetime and mine (which includes WWII).
The deadly seriousness is greatly compounded by the fact that there are very few of us who think we can possibly lose this war and even fewer who realize what losing really means.
First, let's examine a few basics:
1. When did the threat to us start?
Many will say September 11, 2001 .The answer as far as the United States is concerned is 1979, 22 years prior to September 2001, with the following attacks on us:
* Iran Embassy Hostages, 1979;
* Beirut , Lebanon Embassy 1983;
* Beirut , Lebanon Marine Barracks 1983;
* Lockerbie , Scotland Pan-Am flight to New York 1988;
* First New York World Trade Center attack 1993;
* Dhahran , Saudi Arabia Khobar Towers Military complex 1996;
* Nairobi , Kenya US Embassy 1998;
* Dares Salaam , Tanzania US Embassy 1998;
* Aden, Yemen USS Cole 2000;
* New York World Trade Center 2001;
* Pentagon 2001.
(Note that during the period from 1981 to 2001 there were 7,581 terrorist attacks worldwide).
2. Why were we attacked?
Envy of our position, our success, and our freedoms. The attacks happened during the administrations of Presidents Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton and Bush 2. We cannot fault either the Republicans or Democrats as there were no provocations by any of the presidents or their immediate predecessors, Presidents Ford or Carter.
3. Who were the attackers?
In each case, the attacks on the US were carried out by Muslims.
4. What is the Muslim population of the World?
25%.
5. Isn't the Muslim Religion peaceful?
Hopefully, but that is really not material. There is no doubt that the predominately Christian population of Germany was peaceful, but under the dictatorial leadership of Hitler (who was also Christian), that made no difference. You either went along with the administration or you were eliminated. There were 5 to 6 million Christians killed by the Nazis for political reasons (including 7,000 Polish priests). (see http://www.nazis.testimony.co.uk/7-a.htm )
Thus, almost the same number of Christians were killed by the Nazis, as the six million holocaust Jews who were killed by them, and we seldom heard of anything other than the Jewish atrocities. Although Hitler kept the world focused on the Jews, he had no hesitancy about killing anyone who got in his way of exterminating the Jews or of taking over the world - German, Christian or any others.
Same with the Muslim terrorists. They focus the world on the US, but kill all in the way -- their own people or the Spanish, French or anyone else. The point here is that just like the peaceful Germans were of no protection to anyone from the Nazis, no matter how many peaceful Muslims there may be, they are no protection for us from the terrorist Muslim leaders and what they are fanatically bent on doing -- by their own pronouncements -- killing all of us "infidels." I don't blame the peaceful Muslims. What would you do if the choice was shut up or die?
6. So who are we at war with?
There is no way we can honestly respond that it is anyone other than the Muslim terrorists. Trying to be politically correct and avoid verbalizing this conclusion can well be fatal. There is no way to win if you don't clearly recognize and articulate who you are fighting.
So with that background, now to the two major questions:
1. Can we lose this war?
2. What does losing really mean?
If we are to win, we must clearly answer these two pivotal questions:
We can definitely lose this war, and as anomalous as it may sound, the major reason we can lose is that so many of us simply do not fathom the answer to the second question - What does losing mean?
It would appear that a great many of us think that losing the war means hanging our heads, bringing the troops home and going on about our business, like post-Vietnam. This is as far from the truth as one can get.
What losing really means is:
We would no longer be the premier country in the world. The attacks will not subside, but rather will steadily increase. Remember, they want us dead, not just quiet. If they had just wanted us quiet, they would not have produced an increasing series of attacks against us, over the past 18 years. The plan was, clearly, for terrorists to attack us until we were neutered and submissive to them.
We would, of course, have no future support from other nations, for fear of reprisals and for the reason that they would see; we are impotent and cannot help them.
They will pick off the other non-Muslim nations, one at a time. It will be increasingly easier for them. They already hold Spain hostage. It doesn't matter whether it was right or wrong for Spain to withdraw its troops from Iraq . Spain did it because the Muslim terrorists bombed their train and told them to withdraw the troops. Anything else they want Spain to do will be done. Spain is finished.
The next will probably be France. Our one hope on France is that they might see the light and realize that if we don't win, they are finished too, in that they can't resist the Muslim terrorists without us. However, it may already be too late for France . France is already 20% Muslim and fading fast!
If we lose the war, our production, income, exports and way of life will all vanish as we know it. After losing, who would trade or deal with us if they were threatened by the Muslims. If we can't stop the Muslim terrorists, how could anyone else?
The radical Muslims fully know what is riding on this war, and therefore are completely committed to winning, at any cost. We better know it too and be likewise committed to winning at any cost.
Why do I go on at such lengths about the results of losing?
Simple. Until we recognize the costs of losing, we cannot unite and really put 100% of our thoughts and efforts into winning. And it is going to take that 100% effort to win.
So, how can we lose the war?
Again, the answer is simple. We can lose the war by "imploding." That is, defeating ourselves by refusing to recognize the enemy and their purpose, and really digging in and lending full support to the war effort. If we are united, there is no way that we can lose. If we continue to be divided, there is no way that we can win!
Let me give you a few examples of how we simply don't comprehend the life and death seriousness of this situation.
President Bush selects Norman Mineta as Secretary of Transportation. Although all of the terrorist attacks were committed by Muslim men between 17 and 40 years of age, Secretary Mineta refuses to allow profiling. Does that sound like we are taking this thing seriously?
This is war! For the duration, we are going to have to give up some of the civil rights we have become accustomed to. We had better be prepared to lose some of our civil rights temporarily or we will most certainly lose all of them permanently.
And don't worry that it is a slippery slope. We gave up plenty of civil rights during WWII, and immediately restored them after the victory and in fact added many more since then.
Do I blame President Bush or President Clinton before him?
No, I blame us for blithely assuming we can maintain all of our Political Correctness, and all of our civil rights during this conflict and have a clean, lawful, honorable war. None of those words apply to war. Get them out of your head.
Some have gone so far in their criticism of the war and/or the Administration that it almost seems they would literally like to see us lose. I hasten to add that this isn't because they are disloyal. It is because they just don't recognize what losing means. Nevertheless, that conduct gives the impression to the enemy that we are divided and weakening. It concerns our friends, and it does great damage to our cause.
Of more recent vintage, the uproar fueled by the politicians and media regarding the treatment of some prisoners of war, perhaps exemplifies best what I am saying. We have recently had an issue, involving the treatment of a few Muslim prisoners of war, by a small group of our military police. These are the type prisoners who just a few months ago were throwing their own people off buildings, cutting off their hands, cutting out their tongues and otherwise murdering their own people just for disagreeing with Saddam Hussein.
And just a few years ago these same type prisoners chemically killed 400,000 of their own people for the same reason. They are also the same type of enemy fighters, who recently were burning Americans, and dragging their charred corpses through the streets of Iraq . And still more recently, the same type of enemy that was and is providing videos to all news sources internationally, of the beheading of American prisoners they held.
Compare this with some of our press and politicians, who for several days have thought and talked about nothing else but the "humiliating" of some Muslim prisoners -- not burning them, not dragging their charred corpses through the streets, not beheading them, but "humiliating" them.
Can this be for real?
The politicians and pundits have even talked of impeachment of the Secretary of Defense. If this doesn't show the complete lack of comprehension and understanding of the seriousness of the enemy we are fighting, the life and death struggle we are in and the disastrous results of losing this war, nothing can.
To bring our country to a virtual political standstill over this prisoner issue makes us look like Nero playing his fiddle as Rome burned -- totally oblivious to what is going on in the real world. Neither we, nor any other country, can survive this internal strife. Again I say, this does not mean that some of our politicians or media people are disloyal. It simply means that they are absolutely oblivious to the magnitude, of the situation we are in and into which the Muslim terrorists have been pushing us, for many years.
Remember, the Muslim terrorists' stated goal is to kill all infidels! That translates into ALL non-Muslims -- not just in the United States, but throughout the world. We are the last bastion of defense.
We have been criticized for many years as being 'arrogant.' That charge is valid in at least one respect. We are arrogant in that we believe that we are so good, powerful and smart, that we can win the hearts and minds of all those who attack us, and that with both hands tied behind our back, we can defeat anything bad in the world! We can't!
If we don't recognize this, our nation as we know it will not survive, and no other free country in the world will survive if we are defeated.
And finally, name any Muslim countries throughout the world that allow freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, equal rights for anyone -- let alone everyone, equal status or any status for women, or that have been productive in one single way that contributes to the good of the world.
This has been a long way of saying that we must be united on this war or we will be equated in the history books to the self-inflicted fall of the Roman Empire. If, that is, the Muslim leaders will allow history books to be written or read.
If we don't win this war right now, keep a close eye on how the Muslims take over France in the next 5 years or less. They will continue to increase the Muslim population of France and continue to encroach little by little, on the established French traditions. The French will be fighting among themselves, over what should or should not be done, which will continue to weaken them and keep them from any united resolve.
Doesn't that sound eerily familiar?
Democracies don't have their freedoms taken away from them by some external military force. Instead, they give their freedoms away, politically correct piece by politically correct piece.
And they are giving those freedoms away to those who have shown, worldwide that they abhor freedom and will not apply it to you or even to themselves, once they are in power.
They have universally shown that when they have taken over, they then start brutally killing each other over who will be the few who control the masses. Will we ever stop hearing from the politically correct, about the "peaceful Muslims"?
I close on a hopeful note, by repeating what I said above. If we are united, there is no way that we can lose. I hope now, after the election, the factions in our country will begin to focus on the critical situation we are in, and will unite to save our country. It is your future we are talking about! Do whatever you can to preserve it. After reading the above, we all must do this not only for ourselves, but our children, our grandchildren, our country and the world.
Whether Democrat or Republican, conservative or liberal and that includes the Politicians and media of our country and the free world!
It's interesting that the body count was even mentioned. Canada has always made a point of NOT counting the enemy dead. It's just bad taste and doesn't prove who won the battle anyway.
Posted by: the bear at August 21, 2006 3:36 PMThis old canadian classic dialogue could not be more relevant today
They don't make this kind of Liberal leader anymore
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7_a2wa2dd4
Posted by: trudeaufan at August 21, 2006 3:37 PMJohn Cleese--Monty Python, Fawlty Towers, etc.--has said that satire's dead, because, these dyas, the truth trumps it nearly every time.
I guess that means, for most people, that we're living in virtual reality. (But we don't die that way. Good Lord, literally, have mercy upon us and deliver us.)
Posted by: lookout at August 21, 2006 3:48 PMIn short UN full of Idiots; Canadian Forces are earning there keep and are a force to be truly respected. Any of you interested go to www.youtube.com and search canadian military firefight and see our boys in action.
Don't even get me started about the comments on Hezbollah by our glorious educated MP's.IDIOTS!!
But seriously now how many of you googled Buford Butte, SK. LMAO
CBCpravda headline
Lebanon PM chastizes Ottawa's stance on conflict
who gives a rats bahoki what he says? or the two MPs in the article behind it.
More of that bad taste.
Check out the words: bodies, dead, bloody, battles, killed, eliminating, fallen, assault, ...
Add this to the Canadian Battle List:
The Battle of Panjwaii.
Hear those lions roar. ...-
KANDAHAR, Afghanistan (CP) - Taliban forces asked that the bodies of their dead fighters be returned Monday after a weekend of bloody battles with Canadian and Afghan forces.
Afghan government officials said 72 Taliban were killed in a massive ground, air and artillery assault in the volatile Panjwaii District, west of Kandahar. NATO called the battles, which began late Saturday and ended in the early morning hours Sunday, a "big blow" to the Taliban, eliminating up to 10 per cent of their estimated numbers in southern Afghanistan.
At least 22 bodies were returned by late Monday, said Haji Niamatullah, a member of the Kandahar Provincial Council and part of the government's reconciliation program.
The rest, many of which had already been buried, were to be retrieved and handed over Tuesday, Niamatullah told The Canadian Press.
"They will be collected today and will be handed over to Taliban in Sperwan," Niamatullah said.
Sperwan is a village about four kilometres outside the city of Panjwaii.
Following Islamic human rights code, Afghan security forces assured the Taliban that they would not be attacked while they were retrieving the bodies of their fallen comrades. ...-
c news
I think one of the reasons why Monty Python stopped putting stuff out, aside from the fact that John Cleese and co. wanted to branch out on their own, is because it became increasingly difficult, in this crazy, messed up, politically correct, zonked-out world, to do a parody of anything.
Reality has become so bizarre, how do you parody it? 'Probably the reason so many who've posted here took Kate's SDANewsNet seriously. If I hadn't clicked on the link, I probably would have been sucked in.
The mind set of the UN and Jan Egeland, the Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs and Emergency Relief is precisely what would produce scruples about a clear military victory on "our" side of the WOT.
As it is, Israel has one hand tied behind its back, and a foot nailed to the floor, in its fight with Hezbollah, because of the ridiculous strictures too many are putting on them. How come the UN is critical of Israel "breaking" the ceasefire when Hezbollah's been lobbing rockets at the Israelis?
For lefties who have made a god out of "equality" how come they deny equality to Israel in this fight? I guess some armies are more equal than others--but that doesn't make any sense.
Posted by: 'been around the block at August 21, 2006 4:10 PMI must have been channeling lookout's post when I was writing mine. LOL
Monty Python: RIP
Posted by: 'been around the block at August 21, 2006 4:13 PMI'm surprised you folks are so into Monty Python. Cleese, Gilliam, and especially my namesake are very much lefties.
Posted by: Jonesy at August 21, 2006 4:15 PMMeanwhile, a message from "Dr. Strangelove*", Ahmajihad. ...-
Cockpit Major Kong barks out orders. ...-
If you want to have good relations with the Iranian people in the future, you should acknowledge the right and the might of the Iranian people, and you should bow and surrender to the might of the Iranian people. If you do not accept this, the Iranian people will force you to bow and surrender. ...-
LGF
*H/T Peter Sellers, Slim Pickens, etc. ...
My stomach is in knots. I feel ill.
Posted by: northbaytrapper at August 21, 2006 4:39 PMWell Kate,you certainly got me!
BUT,does a parody not usually involve some form of over-the-top exaggeration?I'm sorry,but even as I reread it,it is no more bizarre than so many'true'stories I have read of the MSM,LPC and the UN(left in general)lately.Anyone remember the"black SUV/US-style motorcade"anti-Harper attack that ran as a news item few months back?
The left,practiced pros at shouting'wolf'that they are,don't surprise me anymore with their partisan rants...Truth really is stranger than fiction!
Way to kick ass guys!It gives me hope for this mission when I hear of our brave men and women fighting alongside Afgan soldiers for the same cause....Somebody kindly tell the left that the Taliban is the common enemy,not the West!
Posted by: Canadian Observer at August 21, 2006 5:05 PMMaz2
I hear there’s a sequel coming out with Sharon Stone riding the bomb instead of Slim Pickens. Then we’ll know for sure if the Mullahs are really girly-men eh?
Kate you are lying as always.
The article does NOT mention Taliban "only" Hezbollah. Still horrible but what you said is BS
Posted by: kateyouliar at August 21, 2006 5:25 PMUN, Liberal, NDP, etc wacky word definition:
Disproportionate force = More force than is necessary for the outcome to be anything other than a dead heat or a loss to the side opposing the terrorists. :(
Posted by: Joe Canuck at August 21, 2006 5:32 PM
Kate, no more parodies please!
In this day of apologists anything is believable!
I do not rely on any MSM for veracity.I used to until I finally realised their objective was to sell adverting and that truth should not interfere with good copy.
I rely on you Kate to tell it like it is .
If you must spoof me let me know in advance[sort of like training wheels]
...ya caught me with my pants down Kate.
Sad to think a statement like that could be factual in today's PC world.
Posted by: tomax7 at August 21, 2006 5:43 PMlet's see "Disproportionate force"
that would Stephen Harper debating a Liberal, or ten Liberals for that matter.
Ah hell, make it an even hundred
Posted by: Fred at August 21, 2006 7:18 PMComing out on top without even breaking a sweat.
Just another day at a press conference.
Posted by: Cheri at August 21, 2006 7:51 PMTaliban extreme sports.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQQICSwawv4
Is it my imagination or is your picture getting more blurry??
OMMAG:
I dunno if its getting blurrier but its been blurry for awhile for me. I hope its not time for a trip to the optometrist... :P
Posted by: CanForce 101 at August 21, 2006 8:29 PMwell note well people, MY significantly SUPERIOR analytical skills AND 6th sense about these things spotted the parody right away.
I win !!!
Posted by: RobertJ at August 21, 2006 8:31 PMFred (1:28 P.M.)... Hedy and Svend.
maz2 (4:09 P.M.)... Canadian troops should sucker the Taliban. Basicly, the Taliban converge on the place where it has been pre-arranged they pick up their dog shit and pig guts, and then our troops mow the S.O.B.'s down (in memory of the 30,000+ Afghans we KNOW the Taliban killed before 9/11).
kateyouliar (5:25 P.M.)... you are congenitally stupid. Piss off.
Kate: The Cannonball Press is amused.
www.damianpenny.com/archived/007298.html
Mark
Ottawa
How can we wonder why Canada was slipping into the basement suite of an outhouse when the answer is right in front of us, for all to see?!
It's time to stand up to the jerks and their "political correctness" and put them into that basement suite where they and their "ideals" belong !!
I don't think opposition agrees with Liberals. They are losing their minds including the latest utterances of Borys. Let's see how Bill Graham spins these comments. With the utterances of Hubert now about Israel Graham has a tiger by the tail and no matter what he says he will look weak. No wonder the Conservatives backed out of this visit by the MPs to the Middle East. They can't tell the difference between a terrorist group and a democratically elected government in Israel. Of course Liberals and NDP believe in the tooth fairy and all good things. Canada, because it is so pure, simply has to ask the terrorists to change their ways and not preach the destruction of Israel and the terrorists will do it because we are such a tolerant country. How naive and silly on the part of Liberals and the NDP.
Posted by: hollinm at August 21, 2006 8:50 PMDisportionate...my ass. This is war and they are killing our soldiers in record numbers. The UN is proving to be a useless organization and needs to go the way of the League of Nations. Down the toilet. They are feeble and being run by a bunch of weak kneed liberals. Kofi Annan is a poor leader and he should be replaced.
Posted by: hollinm at August 21, 2006 8:52 PMUNbelievable stupidity!!!!
Posted by: stunned at August 21, 2006 9:52 PMLiberals on here were calling the Con MP "chickenhawk" -- in the usual way lefties lash out at people when they have no arguments -- when it was announced at the last minute that he would not go on the tour of Lebanon with the other MPs from the three left-wing parties in Parliament.
Well, lo and behold, those three idjits end up making complete fools of themselves, going over there and siding with Hezbollah while trashing their own PM on foreign soil while they're at it.
There's a lot of blowback coming out of that trip they took.
Stephen Harper. Pretty smart guy, eh? ...-
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Thanks for posting the article John (3:35 pm).
Considering it was written in July 2005, it is very relevent, thought-provoking, and prophetic. One wonders when the world will wake up and realize that our war is not against terrorists but against Islamic ideology.
Too bad the "parody" overshadowed it.
Me thinks there's a whole bunch that missed something, where's our disproportionate crazies?
Posted by: Western Canadian at August 21, 2006 10:57 PM
Maybe next time when can even it up better - one Canadian Soldier for one Taliban. What's the matter with that guy - is he nuts. Thought this whole process was to get rid of the Taliban terrorists. Can't we do something about the lunacy in our midst.
OK you got me. Sure sounds like something the UN said about Israel so I wouldn't put it past the idiots.
frankly, I'm still trying to reconcile this concept of 'proportionate response'
wtf is the whole point of engaging in a battle to WIN if the leftists and UN dipwads and political correctists only permit a 'proportionate' response??????
jeezuz. do THAT and the bloody thing will drag on and on and on with no end in sight. WW I all over again in a smaller area and modern weapons.
'proportionate response' bbbhhrrrrr.....
Kate, maybe you're going to have to change the name of your "bureau" from SDAnewsnet to ROADKILLWorldNews, or "Reuters". SDA is gaining too much credibility ... :). Thing is, I can't get the picture out of my head of Jan Egeland standing at the podium actually making that speech...
Posted by: Skip at August 22, 2006 8:56 AMThe three Stooges who trekked to Lebanon to fact find or whatever, obviously could have stayed home and made the same statements and observations, they were preconceived.
Members of our Country's parliament are traitors to criticize the government of their Country on foreign soil. That is the most insidious, dangerous display of the lowest form of politics. It's even worse than than anyone could dream up coming from the NDP,and Bloc, let alone the Liberals, the party which declaired and banned Hezbollah as terrorists. These three should be banned along with their sympathies for terrorists.
THEY ARE USELESS IDIOTS, at home and abroad. Shameful. What has our Country become?
The three Stooges who trekked to Lebanon to fact find or whatever, obviously could have stayed home and made the same statements and observations, they were preconceived.
Members of our Country's parliament are traitors to criticize the government of their Country on foreign soil. That is the most insidious, dangerous display of the lowest form of politics. It's even worse than than anyone could dream up coming from the NDP,and Bloc, let alone the Liberals, the party which declaired and banned Hezbollah as terrorists. These three should be banned along with their sympathies for terrorists.
THEY ARE USELESS IDIOTS, at home and abroad. Shameful. What has our Country become?
Further Update from the UN High Muckymucks:
Lots of the battles that Canada won in the second world war have hereby been deemed "disproportional."
It follows that the UN has called on Canada's lefties who believe in the wisdom of Kofi , to show us the progressive way, and kill themselves to even out the portions.
two of the three stooges were backpeddling so fast yesterday they could have used a rear view mirror. but Layed Back Jack Layton hedged, hummed , hawed and said nothing for a full minute. he is a gutless POS.
Posted by: cal2 at August 22, 2006 7:39 PMLet the games begin,war games that is. Some of our soldiers were trained to fight so here they get a chance. I think some of them have a cloud over their eyes. It's just not cool to try and force a way life on a people who wish we'd leave them alone. They were not bothering Canada. But now they may. We call them terroists, they think they are liberators. We will never win. We will spend millions on a war that is none of our buisness. Notice our federal surplus is way down from other years. We spend a lot on foreign aid already. Probably more than we can spare. This war is wrong for all the right reasons. Recall parliament and vote on it. If the Gov't loses the vote have an election.
Posted by: ok4ua at August 25, 2006 1:56 AM