August 20, 2006

Vote For Preston

And help ruin a Liberal's day.

(I do wonder about the hostility over there from some at CG - after all, Chretien and Paul Martin stole much of his fiscal platform, and have never been reluctant to take the credit!)

Remember, one vote per day!

Posted by Kate at August 20, 2006 3:56 PM

At CG: "Looks like Small Dead Animals again. Bart, maybe you should have never even started this poll if she was just going to manipulate it."

They obviously see you as a very powerful woman.

Posted by: Leslie at August 20, 2006 7:31 PM

I think I've voted 4 times through all of it. Now that I see how P.O.'d they are about Manning, I'll do it every day and pass it on to my pals too.

Posted by: Cheri at August 20, 2006 7:34 PM

Secret ballots are lame. There's no reason why CG's poll, or most polls come to think of it, need to be secret ballot. It makes the electorate unaccountable. If you vote for a criminal organization like the Libranos, or vote more than once, or vote in a riding other than your own, the people have a right to know that. I guarantee if federal elections weren't secret ballot Harper would've won a majority last time.

Posted by: Bob at August 20, 2006 8:22 PM

Kyle Carruthers for "Tolerant lefty of the year"

Posted by: rebarbarian at August 20, 2006 8:52 PM

do we fess up and admit how many times we voted...or let them squirm when they see the results...and are we to believe some Libs haven't scraped and scrambled to 'manipulate' the votes?..on a Lib blog...yeah...aren't we the manipulaters.

Posted by: anonyc at August 20, 2006 8:52 PM

And libs think 'female empowerment' is their territory!Oh's only good if you are an 'opened minded' lefty.Guess you fooled them eh kate!

Posted by: vf at August 20, 2006 9:01 PM

Kyle Carruthers for "Tolerant lefty of the year"

I can vote for that.

Posted by: Robert in Calgary at August 20, 2006 9:28 PM

Come on people. We all know the Liberals are the "natural governing party" and that makes all the rest of us "wackos". And they are entitled to have their votes only tallied on their blog site----how else can they obtain an unbiased opinion?

Posted by: Al Wilke at August 20, 2006 9:53 PM

Kate Kate Kate. you of all people.

dont you *realize* the folly of such whole hearted loyalty and support for a politishun???

dont you realize those people will sell the souls of their children to the 7th generation to get votes???

the A #1 objective of a politishun is the GET ELECTED. everything else comes after. therefore they will, and do, anything in the interests of that objective.

including herr manning.

your repeated endorsement of that caricature is nauseating.

Posted by: RobertJ at August 20, 2006 10:18 PM

"And help ruin a Liberal's day"

Therein lies the FUN!

Posted by: Cheri at August 20, 2006 11:32 PM

Despite the libs misguided optimism for a political comeback of a magnitude never seen before, this straw poll may give them a glimmer of what is to come.
The Forte of the lefty libs and neo libs is their amazing abillity to read the cards wrong and march on in glorious oblivion to the political make up of this country.

Posted by: Silverwinger at August 21, 2006 12:13 AM

I loved how some of them called us 'reactionaries' and 'extreme right-wingers' etc. etc. Very Funny.

It just goes to show, once again, that the left, while proclaiming the virtues of tolerance for the opinions of others, doesn't extend that tolerance to those who don't think that our bodies should be hooked up to the state via a series of tubes.

Posted by: Mark at August 21, 2006 12:32 AM

I think you're ruined their 'rigged poll' Kate. :)

Posted by: Adune at August 21, 2006 1:59 AM

What amazes me is that the criminal Liberal party is not disbanded and it's major members put in jail and that the NDP with open support for Terrorist orgainzations are not tried for treason.

Strange brew.

Vote Preston!! The man that woke Canada up!!

Posted by: Pat at August 21, 2006 2:07 AM

from that site;

"If there's one think Tories are good at, it's doing the same thing in large, lockstep groups ;)"

I guess the smiley means it's a 'joking' nazi reference...

"oh jerry, you such a nazi..ha"

Posted by: me at August 21, 2006 8:06 AM

A Liberal is someone who believes that Castro is still alive.

Posted by: Plato's Stepchild at August 21, 2006 8:26 AM

that was immense fun.

think I'm gonna go vote on another computer here at work, hehe

Posted by: northbaytrapper at August 21, 2006 8:28 AM

As I start my day full of "whining reactionism" and "bigotry", I too voted.

I find it interesting that lefties - like Kyle - are often the ones to be whining about Conservatives against whom he is obviously bigoted.

So I guess it is OK to express hatred and spew bile against a certain group (hard core right wing, neo-con, fundamentalist Christians, American loving, nazis ) only if you are on the left side of the political spectrum.

Ah yes - the pot calling the kettle black.

Posted by: Alberta Girl at August 21, 2006 9:39 AM

OMG, those comments are to die for! We're playing by the same rules, one vote per day. There is no reason they can't network. 'Sell' Frank McKenna if you think he deserves to beat Manning.

Posted by: Cheri at August 21, 2006 11:24 AM

and Prestons over 77%. HAHAHA

Posted by: FREE at August 21, 2006 11:58 AM

Glad to see I got you all wound up. You righties are entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to think you are racist, homophobes, etc. if your opinion warrants it. Its the flip side of free speech remember?

Regardless of how Kate is able to manipulate the CG poll by sending her reactionary readers, a simple fact remains: Preston Manning never was, and never will be the Prime Minister of Canada. If you put him up head to head agaisnt Frank McKenna in a general election it would be a massive Liberal majority. Even your buddy "Steve" can only get elected by capitalizing on the government's mistakes and pretending to be moderate just like them. The extreme brand of conservativism espoused by Kate and her readers will never take hold in this country and you would be best off to just accept that.

PS Suggesting that one need be "tolerant" of intolerant opinions to be truly "tolerant" in the virtuous sense is just plain asinine. I have no problem calling a spade a spade, and a bigot a bigot. To do otherwise would be to defeat the purpose of the word. And as long Small Dead Animals acts as agitation propaganda against muslims and natives (apparently even members of the United Church) for the intolerant right I will speak up against it (and be ridiculed and ignored by Kate's kool-aid drinking followers).

Posted by: kylecarruthers at August 21, 2006 3:49 PM

Don't choke on your hate Kyle.

Kyle and his mighty "opinion"

Posted by: Robert in Calgary at August 21, 2006 6:01 PM

Kyle, the fact that people like you even exist is cause for a serious questioning of our education system.
Let's Fisk you, shall we?

"Kate is able to manipulate the CG poll by sending her reactionary readers"
Libblogs can 'manipulate' the poll too, if they want. It's one vote, once per day. We aren't breaking any rules. And what, do you think that just because the poll is on a liberal blog that only liberals deserve to be voted for? It's called the world wide web for a reason, Carruthers. Anyone and everyone is welcome to come and share their opinion. Of course, you're in good company; you're not the first liberal to lose a vote and whine about it being 'fixed'. For someone who claims to be all for free speech, you sure seem to whine about it a lot when people practise it. You'll have to excuse me, my 'reactionary' side just got uppity.

"Preston Manning never was, and never will be the Prime Minister of Canada"
And neither will Carter, McKenna, Broadbent, Stanfield, et. al ever be PM. That's the general premise of the poll. It's hypothetical.

"If you put him up head to head agaisnt Frank McKenna in a general election..."
It's a web poll, Carruthers. Not election '07. Get over it. Do you have problems getting to sleep at night, by any chance? Might be the coffee level. I hear Martin had the same problem....

"by capitalizing on the government's mistakes"
That's how every government falls. Party A does a poor job (or steals hundreds of millions of dollars from the taxpayers in an elaborate kickback scheme fostered by a culture of entitlement, whatever), and party B promises to do a better job, and gets elected.

"...and pretending to be moderate just like them"

I think your problem is that you're so far to the left that your idea of where the centre is is completely off the level. We're not the reactionary extremists kyle; YOU are.

"...will never take hold in this country and you would be best off to just accept that"

That so called 'extreme' brand of conservatism currently enjoys around a 40% support level amongst the general population...and according to the last election, it did take hold. And apparantly, people like it.

"Suggesting that one need be "tolerant" of intolerant opinions to be truly "tolerant" in the virtuous sense is just plain asinine."

I think the entire wording of that phrase is asinine.

"I have no problem calling a spade a spade, and a bigot a bigot."

And I have no problem calling you and idiot.

As per your comments on CG's blog about Kate for being racist for addressing the issues of Caledonia, and islamic terrorism...If you think legitimately criticizing a lawless band of individuals who were holding an entire neighborhood hostage with their violent beatings, vandalism and threats is 'racist', then you're even stupider than i thought. Unfortunately, it would appear that you seem to think we shouldn't criticize criminals just because they are of a certain ethnic group, which I, for one, find extremely telling...

about who the real racist is here.

Posted by: Albert K at August 21, 2006 8:18 PM


I dont have the time to get into a lengthy back and forth but a few points merit comment

- Frank McKenna could win a general election in Canada, Preston Manning could not.
- The brand of conservativism favoured by Kate and her koolaid drinkiners is not the same brand that the CPC campaigned on and CERTAINLY doesn't have the support of 40% of the public.
- I consider constant attempts to agitate opinion against aboriginals and muslims as Kate has done to be "racist".
- Kate can hijack the poll as she wants (free speech right), but it biases the result.
- I sympathize with the native protestors at Caledonia because I believe FN's are a nation (not just a race) and have legitimate grievances against hte Canadian statel.

Posted by: KC at August 21, 2006 8:45 PM

the vote is a sage lesson in agenda pursuit, manipulation and propaganda.

the truth will out, the truth will out !!!

Posted by: RobertJ at August 21, 2006 9:00 PM

Okay, did everyone get that,

Kyle says - "Frank McKenna could win a general election in Canada, Preston Manning could not"

And it's that way cuz Kyle says so. And Kyle's opinion is serious stuff. At least the smell is.

To quote Bugs, what a maroon!

Posted by: Robert in Calgary at August 21, 2006 10:20 PM