
Welcome to downtown Toronto!
One blogger's pix and report from this afternoon's anti-Hez counter demo is here.
We were outnumbered by pro-Hezbollah types at least 10 to one, maybe 15 to one. The cops put a large no-man's land between us and them. We had a bunch of Israeli flags and one megaphone. The other side had a superior sound system, probably paid for by CUPE, who were there in droves, carrying large pink (?) banners.
Typical of every Toronto demo, the Socialist Worker was there too, hawking their ugly newspaper, this one with a MUMIA VS US IMPERIALISM headline. The Communist Party of Canada is so stupid they were handing out brochures with Green Helmet on the cover; one of us explained who he was, told her to google "green helmet", and the women was apparently a little taken aback. Who knows: maybe a convert was made to the right side of history.
Also lots of what I call "Oka flags" were highly visible on the pro-terror side -- surprise!
I have a feeling the pro-Hez gang is planning to make this a semi-regular event, so hey, if you missed this one, believe me: there will be others. Unfortunately. It would be nice if we could outnumber them at least once.
PS: it was nice meeting up with some readers of this blog, too. Rich, if you make me one of your INFIDEL hats I promise to wear it next time.
The ghost of Yasser Arafat was there, too. ...-
As AIDS activists, scientists gather in Toronto, organizer asks: Where's Harper?
TORONTO (CP) - HIV/AIDS scientists, activists and journalists - numbering roughly 27,000 in total - have descended upon Toronto for the once-every-two-years International AIDS Conference
Arafat and AIDS:
Pick & Choose: Arafat AIDS pretext--Sharon "poisoned him"
"With evident distaste, it is translated again back to me: 'He says Arafat has AIDS and that he has been brought to France rather than an Arab hospital ...
pickandchoose.blogspot.com/2004/11/arafat-aids-pretext-sharon-poisoned.html
We did ourselves proud! We had more people than I expected, given the short notice. The cops were great, especially considering I don't think we had a permit. they moved us back when the crowd got big, and they got those singers out of our face.
Who was the guy on our side with the megaphone? He was passionate, level-headed, and talked non-stop for at least 45 minutes. I think he only stopped twice to take a sip of water. I want to join his fan club!
Posted by: nextstopmars at August 12, 2006 6:59 PMIts one thing to indoctrinate naive adult women,but innocent young children --- is pathetic but effective in the long run. How sad for the Human race. DJ
Posted by: D. Jensen at August 12, 2006 7:11 PMI asked the cops and we don't need a permit to demonstrate. The other guys got a permit about two weeks ago from City Hall, because they were also "going mobile", heading down Univeristy or Yonge to the US Consulate after the rally. He also told me they are expecting a different demonstration every day of the AIDS meeting.
And yeah, that guy on the megaphone was incredible!
Posted by: kathy Shaidle at August 12, 2006 7:14 PMI would think any demo where a street is closed off needs a permit. Oh well, learn something new every day!
At the Israel rally a few weeks ago I found out you're not allowed to wave posters etc on city property. Who'd'a thuunk it??
One cop I talked to thought there were 5,000 pro-Hizbollah people there, which is a bit discombobulating. We've got our work cut out for us.
Posted by: nextstopmars at August 12, 2006 7:20 PMHow long ago was it the rentamob crew were on the other side of the street screaming "hate is not a Canadian value" at the Muslims marching against same sex marriage?
Posted by: buckahed at August 12, 2006 7:30 PM"And gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods (and womanhoods!)cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day."
My thanks to all that were there. Remote west coast to Hog Town is a huge trip.
Thanks again,
Pat
My pics can be seen at http://community.webshots.com/album/553078171RAKUDI
Posted by: Mississauga Matt at August 12, 2006 7:51 PMMississauga Matt,
great photos! thanks for posting them
Posted by: nextstopmars at August 12, 2006 8:04 PMMethinks they do protest too much.
yes and Steve Lewis complaining that Stephen Harper did not attend with his cast of thousands@$750US a spot. lunch provided and a area for nursing infants. boondoggle of international proportions. And Stephen Lewis saying his replacement should be a women of colour. Lewis Lunacy, a left over from Trudopia.
Posted by: cal2 at August 12, 2006 8:10 PMIslam is a death cult? Signs like that do nothing but make us look like a bunch of ass backward rednecks.
Posted by: Spencer at August 12, 2006 8:21 PMThe Calgary Peace Rally
There was no counter rally - only the 300 (plus or minus a few people) with the protest signs, the banners, and the colors. I was there flying my Canadian Flag and as far as I could see, the only one. Nobody presented a problem to me nor I to them. There were a couple of guys with an anti-Hez sign but other than that, nothing that I was aware of that was in a counter vein.
The rally was held in Memorial Park just off down town Calgary. This is a park with several memorials to the past generations who gave their lives in the South African Campaign/The Two World Wars. A very beautiful park about one block by one block in size.
It was a very quiet demonstration except for a few heated words involving the anti- Hez guys but that was quickly controlled. There were probably 20/30 City Police on site and they just quietly kept an eye on things & directed traffic during the march.
The only political speaker was the NDP rep for Calgary Center - of little consequence. He and one other speaker said about what we have all heard from Alexa M.
There were several Lebanese flags and colors as to be expected - a banner or two, an umbrella with Lebanon colors, etc. There was one Iranian Flag and one Kuwait flag. A few anti-Harper signs which was not surprising.
THE REAL KICKER was YES - there was one Hezbollah Flag (about 6' x 4') flown with aplombe by 5 or 6 eighteen/twenty year olds. One of them wore the yellow narrow head bandana. At the end of the speeches about 10/12 people specifically had their pictures taken while posing in front of this flag. How great is this.
I noticed the Hez flag towards the middle-end of the speeches that took place after the march. Yes, this flag was flown at the base of the memorial to our war dead. How much more reviling does it get. I have to think about this one and sit on my emotions for a bit.
I didn't see this flag being marched in the parade earlier that went for about 10 city blocks and then back to the memorial. If any of the MSM has this on film, let's see if they have the guts to print it.
It will be interesting to see if the MSN picked this up and/or shows it. The TV Cameras were there and the Calgary Sun was there as well. There was one (probably) Imam that was there in his whites and given the full media interview so no doubt this will be on the news tonight. He also gave a speech at the end of the "formal" speeches but I couldn't be bothered listening. Except for the Hez flag - it was all very calm.
However, if there are those in Calgary who think we are not beginning to face that which TO is already hopelessly mired in - think again.
I asked one of the Calgary City Police about the Don't ask/Don't tell guidlines re citizenship/immigration & witnesses/victims. He wasn't aware of this philosophy at all. At least we can breathe a little on this one.
No pics this time.
Posted by: calgary clipper at August 12, 2006 8:24 PMI learned many many years ago to not ever get involved with anything to which the Lewis Family attaches their name. That includes Stevies father, his wife, his son, and his daughter-in-law. The man and his family is a pox on the world. Stevie is feathering his nest on the backs of AIDS. I suspect that the Prime Minister knows them as well as I do.
Posted by: Mel N at August 12, 2006 8:34 PM Is the UNITED NATIONS not a huge problem in the WEST'S FIGHT AGAINST TERRORISTS ?? I mean , really, it's like the UN's, Annan's, Maurice Strong's, Saddam's, Tongsun Park's, Boutrous's, role in the world to is run interference in the left's/terrorist's attempt to install ONE WORLD GOVERNANCE.
1) Help Saddam make AN END RUN, Oil for food.
2) Don't be TOO TOUGH on the Teliban, tsk.
3) Let all the world's unelected Dictators have their say, while they slaughter their own citizens.
4) Impose Hoaxes like UN's Kyoto on us.
5) Brow beat us into A GUILT TRIP if we ever think of using racial profiling at the AIRLINE CHECK-IN COUNTER.
Infinity ) ...........
Posted by: B. HOAX AWARE at August 12, 2006 8:38 PMThanks, Mississauga Matt, for your great photos of today's demonstration(s). Quite a message for anyone with the eyes to see with (and the ears to hear with). 'Sorry I couldn't be there. I live too far away.
So, the Communist Party, the Six Nations, the Trotskyites, CUPE, and Hezbollah are all bedfellows: Who's surprised? Will the MSM make it clear who was on what side, or will they veil the fact that the Commies, the Six Nations, public employee unions, etc. support an illegal terrorist group who've been brutally murdering innocents for years?
As usual, the grown ups (the pro-Israel side) left their children at home; not so Hezbollah and co., who had their kids there carrying signs: photos of Nasrallah, "Down with Zionism"; "Harper is a War Mongerer"; "Streets of Lebanon Became Graves for Innocent Children."
'Gotta get 'em young to brainwash 'em: How about "Streets of Toronto Became Gutters for Abuse of Children?" 'Sounds about right.
A word of encouragement about being outnumbered 10 to one: the Israelites were in exactly that position against the Philistines way back in Second Chronicles. Jehoshaphat sent the musicians ahead of his army and the Philistines didn't win (2 Chronicles 20:5-23).
More musicians next time, please!
Posted by: new kid on the block at August 12, 2006 8:38 PMRegarding the main picture of that kid holding a sign, the rules of logic dictate that to mean "Naziism is less than Israel," or conversely "Israel is greater than Naziism."
No argument here.
Posted by: Mississauga Matt at August 12, 2006 8:47 PMActually, the sign the kid has ironically SUPPORTS Israel. The sign displays an inequality sign; displayed as it is the sign reads (mathematically) Israel is GREATER THAN Nazi Germany.
Damn, it seems I was beat to it by Missisauga Matt. Keen eye, Matt.
Posted by: Dante at August 12, 2006 8:59 PMCalgary Clipper Darcey from Dust my Broom and Richard from no-libs, were at the back during the speeches and I was under a tree seeking shelter from the rain. The two guys you spoke of were warned they may be charged with incitement and they were given jay walking tickets before the thing started. They took a fair amount of abuse from the fanatics too, for holding up pro israel and anti hezbollah signs. Kudos to them.
Posted by: MikeP at August 12, 2006 9:04 PMToronto has become a cesspool thanks to the immigration policies of the Liberals, spear-headed by Trudeau's Multiculturalism policies and Charter. Montreal had a peace march with terrorist flags which had the blessing of of MP's Coderre and Duceppe, don't know if they were goose-stepping but it was sure as hell bad optics. Did anyone spot the illusrious Mayor of Toronto, David Miller at the event? It's impossible to put words to such pollution of our streets and Country with displays of such vile hatred at every opportunity.
Posted by: Liz J at August 12, 2006 9:20 PMAdvance notice of the pro_Israeli demonstration might bring out more supporters.
Posted by: Russ at August 12, 2006 9:24 PMI was also at the Calgary "peace rally". Whole lot of hate for a "peace rally". The Iman that spoke, did so facing the Hezbollah flag, passionately waving about twenty feet in front of him. He didn't bat an eye. After the rally I watched as he joined the Hez. supporters on the sidewalk and shook their hands. Here's a very powerful and influential leader of the Muslim community, and not a word on how inappropriate a terrorist flag is at a "peace rally". Shameful! How can we be confident, like they suggest we should be, that peace and acceptance is taught in their mosques? I've lost what little I had.
Posted by: Bruce at August 12, 2006 9:24 PM"A woman's resistance is a proof of her experience"
What the heck does that mean? It was the sign held by a woman who was draped in the flag of Hezbollah. She spoke at the beginning of the rally and she marched at the front of the perp's walk, (oops, parade), leading the chanting.
What the heck does her goofy sign mean? It appears to be come sort of circular reasoning whereby the fact of resistance is taken as proof of the legitimacy of resistance.
Posted by: Jon at August 12, 2006 9:30 PMSpencer: "Islam is a death cult? Signs like that do nothing but make us look like a bunch of ass backward rednecks."
I agree, sort of, with your objection.
If they were only interested in their own deaths, I'd say good luck and faster, please. Unfortunately, they're more interested in the deaths of others.
In the interest of accuracy, it should be called the Religion of Human Sacrifice. Stating the obvious, and labeling things correctly, can never be described as ass backward redeneckness.
Posted by: Kathryn at August 12, 2006 9:40 PMWow! Like Liz J says!...
What kind of a country have we allowed ourselves to become? Political correctness, unions, communists, terrorists, etc.. What a SHAMEFUL display of misfits. What's happened to everyones "mind"??!! Can't ANYONE "THINK" anymore? What are these fools on?
You know, I hate to say this but, there's gonna be some "nasty" encounters with some of those idiots pretty soon. I figure that the "thinking" people will pause just long enough to lower their standards for a moment to "educate" the goofs/morons and try to take back our country from the stupid! "Political correctness" be damned, we want some sense and order in our society. I really think it's gonna get ugly before it gets any better. That's the sad part. The good part is that once this happens, we may just stay on track for a while and become a country with a "back bone" and integrity again.
Looooooooong overdue!
Note how children are used as shields at the frtont of the protest, Hezbollah is doing this in Lebanon and what more proof do Canadians need if the Peaceful-Good Muslims in Toronto use the same tactic.
Posted by: roger at August 12, 2006 10:32 PMOne amusing thing that I witnessed occurred when the Hizb supporters started their speeches.
Across the street from the Israeli consulate is The Royal Ontario Museum, which is undergoing extensive re-modeling.
The Hizb people set up their PA equipment on the back of a pickup truck. Just as they started to speak, a workman at the ROM, about 10 feet away, started whacking away at some steel beams.
A massive “clang” punctured everything the speakers uttered, and soon some of the Hizb supporters turned and started shouting at the workman to quit what he was doing.
People with a clue are aware that construction workers aren’t shrinking violets. Boy did he let fly at the Hizbees. First he swore at them, then he told them he had work to do, he wondered what on Earth they were doing there on a Saturday afternoon, and then questioned if they were Canadian.
The Hizb supporters were lucky that a chain link fence separated him from them.
Kathy...I want, no, need, an infidel hat.
Posted by: Jay Currie at August 12, 2006 11:07 PMWhere am I supposed to find out about these pro-Israel
gatherings/marches? I would have definitely been there had I known.
The "Calgary Clipper" obviously left the party early. Darcey from DMB, his Bro and son as well as a couple folks from Project Alberta, Myself and a couple of other patriots who wished to remain nameless were there causing problems for the terrorist supporters... We'll have our full posts up c/w pics and video no later than Monday am...
Posted by: Richard Evans at August 12, 2006 11:24 PMFelt good to be out in the sun and standing up to pure evil. I was "video camera guy". "Megaphone Guy" is my cousin, a very passionate Israeli-Canadian. I'll get some video of him up soon. In the meantime, here's my first clip of today's spectacle, "Hizb'Allah Taunts Jews in Toronto", posted to YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTQvk3IAXjE
Posted by: NCF TO at August 12, 2006 11:25 PMoh ya, Ive hobnobed with the construction worker types a time or two.
they, uh, have a certain 'directness' about them dealing with deadlines, problem solving, arduous working conditions.
they are after all, the builders of all you see.
my take on it? the steel worker's timing was deliberate. steel does clang rather loudly.
Wow, Israel is not only losing the war, but the protesters of their incursions into Lebanon have better turnouts.
You guys are again on the wrong side.
Posted by: dave at August 12, 2006 11:36 PMAnd they are not Hizb supporters or Hizb people, or anti-Israel. They don't support Israel's actions.
Only your twist misnames.
Posted by: dave at August 12, 2006 11:41 PM"Myself and a couple of other patriots who wished to remain nameless were there causing problems for the terrorist supporters... We'll have our full posts up c/w pics and video no later than Monday am..."
Sounds like a staged photo-op. Were you wearing green helmets?
"Streets of Lebanon Became Graves for Innocent Children."
That sign happens to be absolutely true, regardless of which side you blame for it. Let's keep in mind that reasonable people can speak up for the suffering people of Lebanon without being pro-Hezbollah.
Posted by: Moderate at August 13, 2006 12:06 AMYeah but the strange thing about that, moderate, is there is never any mention by these people about the innocent children of Israel killed by Hez rockets. There is never any mention that Hezbollah is firing rockets from populated areas, and in fact are setting their own people up for destruction. And finally where were all these protesters when Hezbollah was firing rockets at will at the Israeli cities. They only show their true colours when Israel decides to defend itself.
I cannot believe that in this country we have apologists for terrorists, but I saw it today in the streets of Calgary and I have been seeing it online for weeks since Israel decided to defend itself.
Glad to hear you whackos were so outnumbered.
Posted by: craig at August 13, 2006 12:39 AM"Sounds like a staged photo-op. Were you wearing green helmets?"
We got some great pics... Not staged though... There's one with a "Harper Let Canadians Down" sign hoisted right next to a hezbollah flag... That sort of stuff doesn't get staged... And it was taken right in the middle of "rednek country": Calgary, Alberta...
ps: No helmets involved... we were all nekked in the helmet dept...
Posted by: Richard Evans at August 13, 2006 1:30 AM"That sign happens to be absolutely true, regardless of which side you blame for it. Let's keep in mind that reasonable people can speak up for the suffering people of Lebanon without being pro-Hezbollah."
And not a word about the suffering of israelis who have to put up with how many wayward rockets per day launched into CIVILIAN enclaves?
Posted by: multirec at August 13, 2006 1:31 AMHey Moderate: we agree with you. The problem is the people at that rally WERE pro-Hezbollah. Which kind of makes them terrorist sympathizers.
Posted by: Dante at August 13, 2006 1:31 AMCraig, moderate,dave you did the see the pics showing communists, Hezbollah , first nations among others all standing united side by side, on a street in a city, in a FREE country.
I guess your whako if you want it to stay that way even if it means grasping the meaning of real tolerance........... putting up with unbelievable disgusting demonstrations and the people that blindly support them.
I don't know why we even bother to spend money trying to root out terrorists, who are we really saving?
The greatest threat to this Country are those that would support this demonstration. As I have stated here many times before, the greatest threat to our way of life is the leftern world within. The lib/left idiots will still be sitting on their porches wondering what's happening as the enemy surrounds them. Too stupid and ignorant of reality to understand what is happening until it's too late. I truly wish you all suffer a fool’s fate.
Who was it that said you can forgive your enemy but never a traitor? Hopefully the traitors to our way of life will again suffer that fools fate.
Maybe the immigration enthusiasts for unrestricted immigration into Canada, will take a look at these pictures and remember something about cause and effect.
Could you imagine if the Israelis had unrestricted immigration?
Posted by: Free Dhimmi One at August 13, 2006 7:14 AMtraitor: one who betrays one's country, a cause, or a trust
Canadian soldiers fighting taliban
taliban = al qaida = hezbolla
therefore all hezbo supporters are traitors to this country's cause
note regarding casualties..
on one excercise with the british army, we carried 30 bodybags for expected casualties....we used them all....in a cold war excercise....soldiers die in peace and war....bless them all
Posted by: kingstonlad at August 13, 2006 7:31 AMpostscript...let's not forget who caused the largest single day casualty count for canadian soldiers since the Korean war....hezbo shooting down a herc with 9 canucks.....hmmmmmm
Posted by: kingstonlad at August 13, 2006 7:40 AMkingstonlad - I always thought the Syrian's pulled the trigger? Either way it was a crime.
Posted by: the bear at August 13, 2006 8:24 AMThanks for standing up at the rally, and for the write up. It was an unreal experience for me. I have posted photos, and some of my own observations, at: http://translucentbeauty.net/blog/
in case you're interested.
Thanks again,
Casey
Quote: "And they are not Hizb supporters or Hizb people, or anti-Israel. They don't support Israel's actions.
Only your twist misnames."
Well, if they weren't Hezbollah supporters, it is strange that some had t-shirts that said: Hezbollah, and they carried Hezbollah flags.
Further, if they aren't Hezbollah supporters, or "anti-Israel," it sure is strange that the crowd erupted with cheers and applause when the rally leader here in Toronto announced: "I have good news for you. Today Hezbollah has killed 25 Israeli troops. And yesterday, Hezbollah killed 21 Israeli soldiers."
But yeah, maybe we are "misnaming" them.
Casey
Posted by: Casey at August 13, 2006 8:45 AMWestern Canadian, I totally agree with you. Yes the threat of the left “within” is going to be harder than grinding down the medieval Islamofascists.
The evidence is in the Toronto Star article, you can pick it up at Bourque. In it Alexander Trudeau says:
“Pierre Trudeau had a friendship with Fidel Castro that went beyond politics. It was a mutual admiration between two men who put their unmatched intellects at the service of their country”
This drivel reeks of the kind of academic adolescence the Liberals regularly spout off with ..
Fidel “goggle” Castro “ synthesizes information quickly and gets back to you with ever deeper and more complex questions, getting more and more excited as he illuminates, through his Socratic interrogation, new parcels of knowledge and understanding he might add to his own mental library.”
Here’s the real scary part…
“It is true that Cubans may eventually cast away the communist orthodoxy of the revolution. They will become tempted by American capital…”
ahhh …. capital … America … now there’s the real enemy.
Got that? … Fidel who had all this mental ability yet was too cowardly to hold an election because he knew normal people would not fall for his autocratic BS. Now poor Cuba is going to lose Castro and be faced with democratic elections, ownership of property and the free flow of capital. Oh my gosh, how awful … now there is only Kim Jong-il left.
Did Alexandre Trudeau say, “It is true that Cubans may eventually cast away the communist orthodoxy of the revolution. They will become tempted by American capital…”?
If so, this statement is breathtaking in its monumentally arrogant audacity: Trudeau and his brother are sitting on a pile of million$$$, the recipients of their father's and grandfather's monetary largesse, probably itself "American capital."
I guess it's OK for Trudeau the Younger to live in opulent splendour, while the poor peasants of Cuba scratch out a living for themselves and their families, because they're being "spared" the evils of "American capital."
Give me a break.
Posted by: new kid on the block at August 13, 2006 9:44 AMMaybe the immigration enthusiasts for unrestricted immigration into Canada, will take a look at these pictures and remember something about cause and effect.
What do you think they would learn here? Screen out the wealthy white students and subsidized activitsts, and all leftists will see is people with exciting brown skin and exciting anti-American politics "resisting" "imperialism" or whatever, and demand even more open borders.
At heart, leftism (as it is today, anyway - I can't imagine any serious socialists of the 50s aligning with, say, standard union causes today) reflects a desire to commit suicide; pointing out that such dolts undercut their own supposed values by supporting such things as "open imigration" will have no effect.
LGF:
Stop the US-Israeli War Rally, San Francisco, August 12, 2006
Zombie documents the insanity in San Francisco.
There’s no other way to describe this. But you won’t see any of these images in the mainstream media. ...-
Sign at the demonstration reads: Nazi Kikes Out Of Lebanon. August 12, 2006: Another Kristallnacht.
Jews named as Nazis; the ultimate anti-semitism:
The next and last step is a "Final Solution". Another Holocaust is being prepared by Muslim Islamist terrorists and their allies, including Syria and Iran, Kofi Annan and the UN, the MSM, the left liberals, etc.
History repeating itself. ...-
November 9/10 1938 - Kristallnacht, the Night of Broken Glass
At The History Place - Part of the World War Two Timeline.
www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/knacht.htm
Vile heinous muderous terrrorists desecrate the Maple Leaf by carry it with the Hezb'Allah and other terrorist standards .
The most perverse is the Christian Cross attached to the Hezb'Allah flag mast.
Cowards and mentally ill all of them.
mental illness on parade.
For all who have eyes to see.
Troubled times ahead. Keep your powdwer dry for now, it will be needed later. This is just the pre-game show.
Somewhere, Neville Chamberlain smiles. He still has followers.
Posted by: Fred at August 13, 2006 10:07 AMAs upsetting as the Toronto rally may be, the bigger issue is the Montreal rally where elected politicians actually took part and endorsed the affair. Has anyone asked/heard a response from our esteemed liberal Member of parliament and his bloc friend on why they continued to march in an event with Hezbollah flags flying, apparently in plain view based on the pictures of the rally? (Note; this is based on the assumption said pictures weren't from Reuters photogs)
PS - with more advance notice I"m pretty sure that a pro-Israel, anti-terrorism gathering could outnumber these individuals. Look at the large pro-Israel rally a couple of weeks back, the numbers were huge although underreported by the MSM. Its as if they want us to think this pro Hezbollah position is the norm and that there is a huge undercurrent of support so they can sway people to think this is an 'OK' and reasonable position to have.
Posted by: toronto small c at August 13, 2006 10:08 AMNew Kid, yup that’s what he said.
There are a couple of kinds of leftwing utopians that we need to battle:
The kind that has a BA in Humanities or Gender Studies and now they have big student loans and lousy jobs so they are bitter and blame the capitalist system for their own bad choices in expensive but useless degrees.
Another kind of utopian like Alexander Trudeau already sits on trust funds from an earlier entrepeneur – Ted Kennedy, Ned Lamont, Jack Laton fit into this slot. They have no idea how capitalism works but they don’t like capitalism. Because it means New Kid might get a chance to rise up the economic ladder and compete with them. They want to remain king of the Hill.
As Western Canadian said above , I think we can beat back the Islamofascists , but first we have to tackle these utopians in our midst and there’s a lot of them.
Ugly scenes mar 'peace' rally
...But Mallah told the Sunday Sun it is no surprise that most protesters do not view Hezbollah as a terror group, given almost 90% of Lebanese people support them.
Hezbollah, he said, is seen as a symbol of the struggle against Israeli oppression, injustice and occupation...
torontosun.com
Posted by: JM at August 13, 2006 10:21 AMSteps: Islamofascism
Cast-
* Dave- Riley
* Scott- Butch
* Kevin- Smitty
[Setting: The Steps]
Dave: Butch?
Scott: Huh?
Dave: I've been thinking. Maybe Smitty's right about us... maybe we are shallow.
Scott: Wow...
Dave: Perhaps we should try injecting some political issues into our discussion.
Scott: [impressed] Wow...
Dave: For example: what do you think of the issue of islamofascism?
Scott: [thinks for a moment] I think Muslim guys are hot. Maybe... I don't know! [even more impressed] Wow...!
[Kevin enters and sits down next to them.]
Dave: Hey Smitty! We were just discussing the issue of islamofascism.
Kevin: [pleased] Oh, really?
Scott: Yeah... it's a complicated issue.
Kevin: What's so complicated about basic human rights?
Scott: I don't know.
Dave: Well, aren't we really just fighting for Stephen Harper and the scary conservatives?
Kevin: That's not the point.
Dave: Well, I just happen to think that sex with Muslim guys is hot.
Scott: Yeah... it's hotter that way.
Kevin: Why do I bother talking to you two when you're so uninformed? Can't you see that the shackles of islamofascism bind our sisters and brothers?
Scott: But shackles are hot.
Kevin: [annoyed] I'm talking about normal people, not a complete slut like you.
Scott: I'm not a complete slut!
[Scott hangs his head, hurt.]
Dave: Oh, look. Now you've gone and made Butchy all upset.
Kevin: [insincerely] I'm sorry, Butch. Sometimes I get so carried away fighting the good fight that I forget about the little people around me.
Scott: [Still upset] Oh, that's ok.
Dave: Well, I've learned something. I've learned that issues make people angry!
Scott: Yeah... [suddenly cheerful again] Let's go to the baths!
Kevin: I admit it... I'm horny.
[They guys walk off together]
Protests are better than bombs. Good for them!
If the Muslims are against someone pointing out that many practitioners of their religion are being persuaded to volunterily commit mass-murder and die in the process, then perhaps they should speak to the imans who preach death and murder as a shortcut to paradise. Curiously, none of those imans ever seem to strap on an explosive belt and detonate themselves, hmmmm.
Posted by: Kyla at August 13, 2006 11:20 AMIf the Muslims are against someone pointing out that many practitioners of their religion are being persuaded to voluntarily commit mass-murder and die in the process, then perhaps they should speak to the imans who preach death and murder as a shortcut to paradise. Curiously, none of those imans ever seem to strap on an explosive belt and detonate themselves, hmmmm.
Posted by: Kyla at August 13, 2006 11:21 AMThe Cabinet of Dr. Caligari
Directed in 1919 by Robert Wiene, The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari is the story of murder and intrigue set in a small German town of Holstenwall. ...-
The Cabinet of Dr. Kofi Annan:
The ceasefire is the story of Kofi Annan and his cabinet: Maurice Strong, S. "Mr. Condom" Lewis, A. "Hep C" Rock, AdScam Chretien/Martin and the Librano$, Lousie Arbour, Willy Graham, Denis Coderre, Duceppe, Boisclair, A. Trudeau, the bust of Toomy Douglas, the Rev. Lorne Calvert, etc. ...-
Beirut official: Cabinet meeting on deploying Lebanese troops indefinitely postponed (AP)
AP and FOX Breaking Cease-Fire in Trouble
Communists marching under the "Party of God" flag. Bizarre!
Posted by: Tom Penn at August 13, 2006 12:54 PMThe Enemy Within Canada and the USA:
Muslim Islamist terrorists. ...-
Mackinac Bridge; Alleged Target Of Terror
WNEM TV ^ | August 13, 2006 | WNEM Staff
Mackinac Bridge; Alleged Target Of Terror Aug 13, 2006 10:47 AM EDT (TV5)
-- We are following breaking news today after it was revealed that the goal of an alleged terror plot, uncovered in Mid-Michigan, was apparently to hit the Mackinac Bridge.
The suspects are 21 year old Adham Abdelhamid Othman, 18 year old Maruan Awad Muhareb, and 23 year old Louai Abdelhamied Othman;
all are apparently from Texas. All have been charged with one count each of collecting and providing material support for terrorism; and one count of surveillance of a vulnerable target (that target allegedly being the Mackinac...
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hezbos, syrians, iranians.....all the same to me...they have been taking potshots at us since the 60's
Posted by: kingstonlad at August 13, 2006 1:02 PMus meaning canadian armed forces
Posted by: kingstonlad at August 13, 2006 1:04 PMi once met a left wing lesbo
who was truly in love with the hesbo
as she sang out her chant
a real commie soaked rant
her cousin was killed by the talibo
remember..6 concussions from my army days...a poet i am not
Posted by: kingstonlad at August 13, 2006 1:13 PMKofi Annan and his aides are accepting condolence$ and certified cheques only $US, for GreenHelmetGuyUNReliefFund.
Send cheque$ payable to Maurice $trong to: UN/SS HQ, UN HQ, Paris, France. ...-
Breaking: Green Helmet Guy Hit in Israeli Airstrike
Buried in this AFP release is a bit of info about the infamous Green Helmet Guy: Thirteen killed as Israel keeps up strikes on Lebanon UK. (Hat tip: Yoni.)
Two rescue workers, including the chief of the Lebanese Red Cross in Tyre, Salam Daher, were wounded by shrapnel during raids near the hospital where they had been rushing to help extinguish the fire, police said. ...-
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people people people.
for the umpteenth time, its 'turdeau'.
ok? TUUUURDeau.
also:
"Because it means New Kid might get a chance to rise up the economic ladder and compete with them. They want to remain king of the Hill."
bingous maximus !!!!
the power system boys of the left DEMAND to call the shots despite the wealth of this side of the atlantic being generated by capitalism and free enterprise.
they DEMAND to maintain the status quo with THEM calling the shots.
thats the basic difference between left and right; left isnt interested in all the work and risk to acquire wealth, they just want to 'nationalize' it. the right maintains that as the architects of their own fortune they have the right to enjoy the perks and control.
thats the basic difference.
Posted by: Robert J at August 13, 2006 1:19 PMLOL !!!
maz2 has just created the highly perfect idealized lefty world government cabinet:
"The ceasefire is the story of Kofi Annan and his cabinet: Maurice Strong, S. "Mr. Condom" Lewis, A. "Hep C" Rock, AdScam Chretien/Martin and the Librano$, Lousie Arbour, Willy Graham, Denis Coderre, Duceppe, Boisclair, A. Trudeau, the bust of Toomy Douglas, the Rev. Lorne Calvert, etc. ...-"
LOL !!!
biblical end times come on down !!!!
LOL !!!
Posted by: Robert J at August 13, 2006 1:25 PMMr Penn:
ah yes, any port in a storm eh?
"Communists marching under the "Party of God" flag. Bizarre!"
again, evidence of the desperation of the communist fringe desperately seeking refuge from the 'bombs' of truth and stark realization post berlin wall etc.
the most Godless ideology in the history of civilization latching onto the 'party of God' banner.
sign of the times, sigh of the times.
Posted by: Robert J at August 13, 2006 1:29 PMWhat is interesting is how 'group-structures', understood as sets of people who operate only within collectives, are so very similar in their behaviour. Therefore, it is understandable that the left, the socialists, the communists and the tribalists (eg. those in the Middle East), the Islamic fascists etc will collaborate together. They all operate within the same cognitive structure.
This cognitive structure is collectivist, heavily peer-enforced, focused around ONE mindset, one perspective, one set of authoritative and non-debatable Normative Rules (called the common denominator). The pressure to conform to this one set of beliefs and behaviour can also be enhanced by the insertion of a mythic 'Hero Leader', who commands obedience, devotion and unquestioning acceptance. The 'Hero Leader' can be an individual or a dogma (Communist Manifesto).
A second major characteristic of groups, besides their rejection of individualism and the pressure to conform to an unchanging, static and authoritarian common denominator, is that the 'glue' that holds people together in a group is emotional rather than rational. Emotion, which rejects analysis, facts, reason, objective observation etc - is a major component of group solidarity. The emotion is derived from the focus on the Pure Authority of the Set of Beliefs, or of the Leader, or The Original or Future Purity mode of life. This emotional base is very powerful and it is further enhanced by a deep and very vocal Hatred of Others. Groups are always isolationist; they must have some other group to hate.
The function of groups is stability - which they accomplish by forbidding diversity, questions, deviation from these authoritative Normative Rules. And of course, the rejection of reason and facts, enables these fictional beliefs of the group to continue unchallenged for many years.
BUT - a key problem with groups, rests within their rejection of reason. If the group has no problems of economy etc, then, it can remain stable for hundreds of years. BUT - if there are any problems - if the population grows beyond the capacity of the economy, if other groups intrude in the territory, if there is a natural ecological problem such as drought, rotting of the crops, etc, etc - this group has absolutely no capacity to deal with any problems. It rejects individuals; it rejects thinking; it rejects reason and analysis. All it can do when faced with internal problems, is hate others. It has no capacity to reason, to examine its Basic Priniples which are, anyway, defined as Primal and Inviolate. It has no capacity to observe the real factual world, for groups live within their own authored, Fictional Worlds. Therefore, groups will always deal with problelms by externalizing causality - they'll blame some other group.
Therefore, the left, the communists, the Islamic fascists, the tribalists, rather than facing factual reality and their own inability to deal with internal problems, and the fact that they live in a fictional rather than factual world - will set up an Evil Satan. In this case, it's America. They ignore, of course, all the benefits that the American Way has brought them.
I note, in a scientific paper, which states "larger memory sizes of individual players tend to lower the possibility of the emergence of large hubs with many connections. Interestingly, this phenomenon can be interpreted in that 'smarter' players effectively prevent the appearance of 'dictators' with big power" (S. Lee and H. Jeong. Effects of substrate network topologies on competition dynamics' Feb 2006).
What this means is that individualism (ie, with larger memories, increased analytic capacity) prevents the emergence of dictatorships and totalitarianism.
But group-ism enables dictatorships and totalitarianism.
A few screwballs (some of them false flag operators) with offensive signs prove nothing whatever. Contrarywise, what DOES prove something is the huge worldwide distribution of these same images, all at once. it shows that the free Megaphone software is working its magic.
Hezzbollah bias? Please. I can read a masthead or a TV credit.
It reminds me of the Walt and Miersheimer flap. They argued that "the Lobby: squashed all criticism. The Lobby rebutted this outrage by . . .squashing Walt and Miersheimer.
Posted by: skip at August 13, 2006 2:44 PMRobert J:
"the most Godless ideology in the history of civilization latching onto the 'party of God' banner"
Overheard at the rally: "Hey you got chocolate in my peanut butter".
[shamelessly pilfered from http://no-pasaran.blogspot.com/]
Posted by: Tom Penn at August 13, 2006 2:44 PMAfter watching a terrorist gang, the hez-PIG-bollah, and their “canadian”, very small c supporters, parading down the streets of a Canadian City I find myself furious beyond reason. If our police and politicians cannot bring themselves to face the reality of the times then I think Mr. and Mrs. Joe and Jane average Canadian have a duty to take the law into their own hands. A horrible thing to contemplate but I believe it has truly come to this point. Get rid of those PIG people and send them back where they came from. Racist? No, just protective of my way of life and willing to protect that way of life in any way necessary, ANY WAY. Just that average Joe pushed past the point of reason, and very resentful of those that have pushed him there. My philosophy of life has always been one of live and let live, no more. No More, the lines are drawn. Not only do I not have any tolerance left for those people I have even less tolerance for those that would protect them.
Until now I never realized the meaning or significance of these words — A patriot must always be ready to defend his Country against his Government. I do now.
Posted by: Western Canadian at August 13, 2006 3:21 PMPrep to invasion? ...-
Fox News reports unusual activity on Syrian-Israel border
Fox News | 08/14/06 | Cammie
Just saw on Fox that the IDF is monitoring unusual activity on Syrian border in the Golan Heights...tanks there, they are removing land mines at the border...not up on their website yet
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Has anyone heard any media hacks talk about the pompous little twit, Dennis Coderre or the Bloc head Duceppe marching in the Montreal "Peace March" with the terrorists? Guess there were no Conservatives there, because it would still front page entertainment for the horses butts. Right now they are all atwitter about Stephen Harper not attending the Aids Conference with the celebs and other hangers on to the limelight long after their best before date. Stephen Lewis is dedicated to the cause, so all socialists will doubtless be ultra hostile with such slight, that is if socialists do get hostile.Ever spot a hostile socialist? If you have, they've blown their cover. Jack Layton has not been heard from, one would expect a statement from him and of course Alexa McDodo. Oh well, vive le Canada!
Posted by: Liz J at August 13, 2006 3:42 PMhey western canadian..why do you think the libs tried to disarm the non-urban population???
Posted by: kingstonlad at August 13, 2006 3:42 PMis it illegal to form a private militia in canada?
Posted by: kingstonlad at August 13, 2006 3:44 PMking I am well aware of why.
Posted by: Western Canadian at August 13, 2006 4:06 PMWestern Canadian,
"If our police and politicians cannot bring themselves to face the reality of the times then I think Mr. and Mrs. Joe and Jane average Canadian have a duty to take the law into their own hands. A horrible thing to contemplate but I believe it has truly come to this point."
NO! Going "western jihadi" is absolutely NOT THE ANSWER. Bringing more chaos and bloodlust into western civilization is NOT the answer. Further undermining the order of our civilized Nation States is NOT the answer.
As you know, I agree there is disturbingly broad support for terrorist within the Muslim community. But, I also know there are many good moderate Muslims in our societies that are here because they fled tyranny, LOVE OUR NATIONS, and that are NOT onside with terrorists. There are many Muslims both at home and abroad that ARE working to help our efforts to bring moderate, tolerant Islam to the fore, and that are working to protect the western countries that took them in and their fellow citizens.
There are a number of cases of terrorist plots that were busted down because of tips from concerned Muslims who saw suspicious activity within the community. Most recently, the Bojinka II plot was uncovered and assisted BY MUSLIMS. Progress is being made in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere within the ME.
Let the state fight the security battle. Support the state within the law by fighting for what you believe in ideologically, legally, politically. But do not get confused about the nature of YOUR role in the solution.
The internet is opening up access to societies that have been hidden behind closed walls. I frequent the blogs of many Muslims in Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Canada, America. There are liberal, moderate, and radical opinions and the opportunity to exchange ideas and disclose facts to win the ideological battle (and we surely ALL hope this remains largely an ideological battle -- Cold War II, if you will). I call my hobby "Freedom Fighting". Here is an example: http://freesyria.wordpress.com/2006/08/11/israeli-arrogance/#comments. Read the "About" feature for this blogger and then check out the other postings and comments. There are many, many other forums like this. Opportunities to reach out and help fight the fight right.
Be angry. I am angry too. I had friends in the WTC who THANK GOD made it out. But, do not ever succumb to hate or extra-judicial violence. THAT IS THEIR GAME AND THOSE WHO PLAY IT ARE GENOCIDAL TERRORISTS TOO.
Posted by: Tom Penn at August 13, 2006 4:17 PMWestern Canadian, you will get a kick out of this blog, which I love: http://no-pasaran.blogspot.com/. This is a global war and people are waking up to reality all over the world. People just like you and me who love Freedom and who hate Tyranny in all it's forms.
Posted by: Tom Penn at August 13, 2006 4:27 PMI also find it pathetic that these traitors can prance around our major cities and support a group that our government has identified as terrorist. If my German relatives had attended a pro-Nazi rally (instead of fighting for Canada) in WW2, I would have expected to have them hung or shot.
I am rapid-tabulating a cost-benefit analysis of Muslim immigration to this country.
It boils down to economics: are the increased costs associated with increased security, etc. counter-balanced by the value they bring to our society? Or not?
Posted by: Mike Schmidt at August 13, 2006 5:08 PMNews Flashes
Israel has shot down two Hizballah drones, one made it into Israeli airspace and the second was shot down in Lebanon.
The second flash is that Syria has started to remove land mines located in the zone between the Syrian and Israeli lines on the Golan Heights plus they have moved a tank formation into the area. ...- Posted by Yoni Tidi at 01:39 PM
Posted by: maz2 at August 13, 2006 5:09 PMI don't know if this is posted yet but:
Nasrallah Has Broken His Word
Hamadi information minister, a Druze, said Sunday night that Nasrallah had broken his word to order Hizballah fighters south of the Litani to hand in their weapons to allow Lebanese army troops to be deployed there.
http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=3098
Posted by: Helmer Fudge at August 13, 2006 5:50 PMIf this is Eastern solidarity for killers. Alberta cannot leave this polluted collectivist loving caricature of a Nation, quick enough.
I guess the silent majority in Ontario & Quebec, have no problems hating Jews or Israel. I mean Jew slaughter is always in fashion . Especially among the French. Can they be that stupid to think if Israel where destroyed they would be left alone? Particularly after they have said they will destroy Democracy (remember moon bats?) as well as extinguish the West. To create a world wide Caliphate.
To the Dim bats & harebrained people. This all happened before 9/11. Do you honestly think after saying they want to exterminate you. They will retract there intentions if we run, like yellow skunks?
Its abundantly clear, a lot of people gloat in carnage leavened with devastation. They mean to kill or convert you. If not those options . Death or slavery. Its the way of Islam. Everyone’s favorite suicide cult. At least our MSM.
If you think you will escape by being craven or a brown nosier think again.
Tell that to the Practitioners of the "Religion of Peace". Perhaps when your in a plane being directed into a building for Allah's sake. The certainty is , the jihadists are the luddites & barbarians of the age. Anyone who would use Women or children as human bombs, or as shields for military purposes is evil. Sometimes you have to fight evil. That is, if you want civilization to continue? We all die people, its the hill we die on, & the trail we walk. That determines our true character.
Evil is always the easy choice. Good takes real sacrifice, born out of love. Hate is the easy toll road of destruction. It ends in death as so many cults. Both secular & Religious.
Some times one has to die for the sake of others future. Its that simple. North Americans never sell there lives cheap. We are free Men & Women. That’s why we will eventually win, unless our freedom is stolen by the lefties. Greater love has no man than to lay his life down for another. So said the person I most admire & respect. Jesus. Just my opinion.
After 30 years of increasing massacre by these thugs & child killers, you think they will become lambs. lol lol lol, Fools all !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just follow the red path of blood.
November 1979: Muslim extremists (Iranian variety) seized the U.S. embassy in Iran and held 52 American hostages for 444 days, following Democrat Jimmy Carter's masterful foreign policy granting Islamic fanaticism its first real foothold in the Middle East.
1982: Muslim extremists (mostly Hezbollah) began a nearly decade-long habit of taking Americans and Europeans hostage in Lebanon, killing William Buckley and holding Terry Anderson for 6 1/2 years.
April 1983: Muslim extremists (Islamic Jihad or possibly Hezbollah) bombed the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, killing 16 Americans.
October 1983: Muslim extremists (Hezbollah) blew up the U.S. Marine barracks at the Beirut airport, killing 241 Marines.
December 1983: Muslim extremists (al-Dawa) blew up the U.S. Embassy in Kuwait, killing five and injuring 80.
September 1984: Muslim extremists (Hezbollah) exploded a truck bomb at the U.S. Embassy annex in Beirut, killing 24 people, including two U.S. servicemen.
December 1984: Muslim extremists (probably Hezbollah) hijacked a Kuwait Airways airplane, landed in Iran and demanded the release of the 17 members of al-Dawa who had been arrested for the bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Kuwait, killing two Americans before the siege was over.
June 14, 1985: Muslim extremists (Hezbollah) hijacked TWA Flight 847 out of Athens, diverting it to Beirut, taking the passengers hostage in return for the release of the Kuwait 17 as well as another 700 prisoners held by Israel. When their demands were not met, the Muslims shot U.S. Navy diver Robert Dean Stethem and dumped his body on the tarmac.
October 1985: Muslim extremists (Palestine Liberation Front backed by Libya) seized an Italian cruise ship, the Achille Lauro, killing 69-year-old American Leon Klinghoffer by shooting him and then tossing his body overboard.
December 1985: Muslim extremists (backed by Libya) bombed airports in Rome and Vienna, killing 20 people, including five Americans.
April 1986: Muslim extremists (backed by Libya) bombed a discotheque frequented by U.S. servicemen in West Berlin, injuring hundreds and killing two, including a U.S. soldier.
December 1988: Muslim extremists (backed by Libya) bombed Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, killing all 259 on board and 11 on the ground.
(Then came an amazing, historic pause in Muslim extremists' relentless war on America after Ronald Reagan won the Cold War by doing the opposite of everything recommended by Democrats, depriving Islamic terrorists of their Soviet sponsors. This confuses liberals because they don't understand the concept of terror sponsors, whether it's the Soviet Union or Iraq.)
February 1993: Muslim extremists (al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya, possibly with involvement of friendly rival al-Qaida) set off a bomb in the basement of the World Trade Center, killing six and wounding more than 1,000.
Spring 1993: Muslim extremists (al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya, the Sudanese Islamic Front and at least one member of Hamas) plot to blow up the Lincoln and Holland tunnels, the U.N. complex, and the FBI's lower Manhattan headquarters.
November 1995: Muslim extremists (possibly Iranian "Party of God") explode a car bomb at U.S. military headquarters in Saudi Arabia, killing five U.S. military servicemen.
June 1996: Muslim extremists (13 Saudis and a Lebanese member of Hezbollah, probably with involvement of al-Qaida) explode a truck bomb outside the Khobar Towers military complex, killing 19 American servicemen and injuring hundreds.
August 1998: Muslim extremists (al-Qaida) explode truck bombs at U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, killing 224 and injuring thousands.
October 2000: Muslim extremists (al-Qaida) blow up the U.S. Navy destroyer USS Cole, killing 17 U.S. sailors.
Sept. 11, 2001: Muslim extremists (al-Qaida) hijack commercial aircraft and fly planes into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and a field in Pennsylvania, killing nearly 3,000 Americans.
You may be next, or your family. Still believe in jihadist Independence fighters, young Socialist?
Posted by: Revnant Dream at August 13, 2006 6:24 PMRevnant Dream: "Alberta cannot leave this polluted collectivist loving caricature of a Nation, quick enough."
Remember that the next time you argue there is no such thing as a Palestinian because Palestine was never a true nation-state like Alberta.
/sarc
Nabi says nobe, George...-
Hizbullah refuses to disarm in south Lebanon
Jerusalem Post ^ | Aug. 13, 2006
The Lebanese government was scheduled to meet on Sunday to discuss the disarming of Hizbullah south of the Litani River, but postponed that meeting following indications by the guerrilla group that they would not do so. Hizbullah's refusal was conveyed to Lebanese Prime Minister Fuad Saniora through the group's representative in the Lebanese parliament, Nabih Berri.
Israel-Hezbollah truce will strike blow to Syria, Iran [President Bush]
CanWest, National Post ^ | 13AUG06 | Allan Woods
WASHINGTON -- U.S. President George Bush said the United Nations resolution to halt the fighting between Israel and Lebanon will stop Hezbollah from acting as a "state within a state" and deal a severe blow to the efforts of Syria and Iran to exert influence in the Middle East. In a statement released by the White House Saturday, Bush urged the international community to support the resolution, which could lead to a likely ceasefire on Monday, "and make every effort to bring lasting peace to the region." ...-
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Moderate : (Good Joke)
Unlike the rabid Palestinians, we have no desire, nor the opposing faux morals of the Jihadists & there Palestinian dupes. That has lost them the land given freely back by Israel. Because they would rather kill Jews than have a Nation.
Albertans would never use bombs, children as explosives, or violence. In The Canadian Federation every Province is equal & separation is legal. Suck that up. We just want to be left the hell alone from an Eastern group of lefties bent on our demise as a polity. Rest assured if we do go it will be as a republic. Not a Mullocracy.
There is absolutely no comparison of the two.
That you make one is fallacious & stupid, if not ignorant of the facts of this Country or its history.
One can only conclude after this piece of misdirection that you are a devotee to the false Profit ( Spelling is accurate) Mohammed. He was a merchant until he turned desert pirate. Therefore your ilk is at war with us. Anything you say is tainted if not a lie. Your father was a liar from the beginning. We know who your Father really is & it does not start with an M or G. More an S.
Happy Trails
Posted by: Revnant Dream at August 13, 2006 7:07 PMgood job posting the photos, K and Matt.
I particularly enjoyed the story about the metalworker at the ROM behind the terrorist speakers. This illustrates an old reason why the communist and other "left" causes draw bigger crowds. Those who support responsible positions tend to be those with jobs who believe in self sufficiency, as well as justice. Generally too busy taking care of their own lives and doing meaningful volunteer work to come out and counterdemonstrate.
Posted by: GreyOne at August 13, 2006 8:16 PMGreen Helmet Guy: "Stretcher Alley". ...-
Act 2, Scene 3
Strictly speaking, this is an Act all on its own but, for convenience, we have included it here as it is also an example of Red Cross workers play-acting.
This scene is illustrated here from a sequence of "screen grabs" from a video taken reportedly from Aljazeerah. It starts with "Green Helmet" being interviewed about the disaster. Speaking in Arabic, in a remarkably high-pitched voice, we are told he says there are about 210 casualties in the wreckage. the point to watch, however, is the mid-point between "Green Helmet" and the interviewer, at the end of the road. This is "Stretcher Alley". ...-
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/
Posted by: Tom Penn at August 13, 2006 04:17 PM:
"NO! Going "western jihadi" is absolutely NOT THE ANSWER. Bringing more chaos and bloodlust into western civilization is NOT the answer. Further undermining the order of our civilized Nation States is NOT the answer."
Thank God, and you Tom Penn, that there are still some vestiges of sanity in what is becoming a hate-filled blog. Righteous anger I understand, but some of the extreme views expressed here by some are just as scary, if not scarier, than the threats our Western democracies apparently face from various quarters.
Posted by: Gabby in QC at August 13, 2006 8:50 PMmore on the clanging steel construction worker:
these fellows in the hard hats have remarkable and exceptional accuracy in what they do, after all, out of the 100s of thousands of edifices they finish, how many fall over? see what I mean?
clearly, this fellow was listening to the spew from the loud speakers and accurately sized it up as well and under the pretence, or maybe he really did need to cut the steel and using an exceptionally clever ruse, waited until just the right time to do it.
seeing that happen, alone, would have made the trip worth it.
the truth will out, the truth will out.
Do you mean 'scary' as in this movie Seeds of Hatred, Gabby? Watch it - only 10.10 min. long - and well worth your while if you consider the comments on this blog are hate-filled.
Do you recall your history of the years leading up to WWII? If people had spoken out, would you have considered them scary? If this isn't the time to speak out, when would be in your opinion.
Also, if this isn't the time for Israel to take a stand, when do you think the best time would be? Three yrs from now? Five?
You mean well, but you and those like you who have their heads in the sand are the scary ones. You know Western democracy is threatened and yet you applaud those who are putting our freedoms in jeopardy.
In your mind, do you think the millions who died in the second world war died in vain? They will have if the Islamofascists - or whatever you want to call them - win.
Maybe you could explain just where your loyalties lie. I for one would be very interested to know just where you are coming from...
a very tired 78-yr old.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY66UeXnDf4
Posted by: gellen at August 13, 2006 10:08 PMElegy for Lebanon:
"the trees of God resemble the Cedars of Lebanon which he planted", ...-
Metula News Agency ^ | Sunday 30 July 06 | Michael Béhé
The most hypocritical people on earth
The politicians, journalists and intellectuals of Lebanon have, of late, been experiencing the shock of their lives. They knew full well that Hezbollah had created an independent state in our country, a state including all the ministers and parallel institutions, duplicating those of Lebanon. What they did not know – and are discovering with this war, and what has petrified them with surprise and terror – is the extent of this phagocytosis.
In fact, our country had become an extension of Iran, and our so-called political power also served as a political and military cover for the Islamists of Teheran. We suddenly discovered that Teheran had stocked more than 12,000 missiles, of all types and calibers, on our territory and that they had patiently, systematically, organized a suppletive force, with the help of the Syrians, that took over, day after day, all the rooms in the House of Lebanon. Just imagine it : we stock ground-to-ground missiles, Zilzals, on our territory and that the firing of such devices without our knowledge, has the power to spark a regional strategic conflict and, potentially, bring about the annihilation of Lebanon.
We knew that Iran, by means of Hezbollah, was building a veritable Maginot line in the south but it was the pictures of Maroun el-Ras and Bint J’bail that revealed to us the magnitude of these constructions. This amplitude made us understand several things at once : that we were no longer masters of our destiny. That we do not possess the most basic means necessary to reverse the course of this state of things and that those who turned our country into an outpost of their islamic doctrine’s combat against Israel did not have the slightest intention of willingly giving up their hold over us.
The national salvation discussions that concerned the application of Resolution 1559 and which included most of the Lebanese political movements were simply for show. ...-
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1683139/posts
I have problems with the Nazi flag being used as an image in our country..
This to me is one of the ultimate images of hate.
Do the persons who display the swastika have any concept of the price paid to free the world of Naziism?
Surely we are not bringing people into canada who display Naziism or fascism in our streets..
I have to work for a living and support my family, one of whom is severely disabled..
I dont have time to demonstrate for the right of democracies to defend themselved from attacks on their citizens and to respond accordingly..
I depend on my government to show leadership and express the traditional Canadian view of the right of nations to defend against aggression..
Who in hell let these intolerant sexist anti-semites into my country..
I blame the LPC... Would they explain to me the rationale of bringing people to Canada who hate Canada?
I am dying for this question to be asked in the MSM!
Posted by: dougieboy at August 13, 2006 10:44 PMGabbi G., it's not like WC was going to do something crazy like martyr himself, his wife and six month old baby to kill the infidels. You really should check out the jihadi blogs. Now there's some saucy commentary, and it ain't just talk!
I will tell you seriously though, unless there is an effective response by governments to this "threat to our way of life" as WC accurately put it, THIS WILL COME TO VIOLENCE ON THE STREETS. Decent people do have limits too. So we better find a way to fix what is broken, and the sooner the better or this will get ugly.
Posted by: Tom Penn at August 14, 2006 12:43 AMThis is hilarious. Maybe you guys should just be happy that Canada isn't France. On the day all hell was breaking loose with this terror threat, French Airport Security was on strike: http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/provider/providerarticle.asp?feed=AP&Date=20060811&ID=5941748
"France-2 television showed a few dozen security workers marching through a terminal at Charles de Gaulle carrying huge banners and chanting for better job security."
Now tell me, who on the planet has more job security right now than AIRPORT SECURITY PERSONNEL?
Posted by: Tom Penn at August 14, 2006 12:59 AMThis is hilarious. Maybe you guys should just be happy that Canada isn't France. On the day all hell was breaking loose with this terror threat, French Airport Security was on strike: [H2TP]news.moneycentral.msn.com/provider/providerarticle.asp?feed=AP&Date=20060811&ID=5941748
"France-2 television showed a few dozen security workers marching through a terminal at Charles de Gaulle carrying huge banners and chanting for better job security."
Now tell me, who on the planet has more job security right now than AIRPORT SECURITY PERSONNEL?
Posted by: Tom Penn at August 14, 2006 1:02 AMThanks Tom, you understood.
Posted by: Western Canadian at August 14, 2006 1:27 AMWC, I do understand exactly how you feel. Some seem comfortable with the idea of "learning to live" with terrorism. This is incomprehensible to me. I am determined that my grandchildren will not live in their world. My generation helped enable this threat, and we have a duty to end it forever, even if it ultimately takes WWIII to do it.
I have been reeling for years since realizing the International Left was allying with terrorists. Ironically the vile and insane comments of Canadian leftists on the old CBC comment forums opened my eyes to this shocking fact. That was before the CBC closed the forum down for seemingly forever for "maintenance". I like to think the Chretien government could take me spittin the truth on their (your) dime.
I think these people will become increasingly marginalized as terrorists escalate this conflict. Even though they're both jackboots, the Communists and Communist-Lites (Socialists) cannot ideologically sustain this alliance with the "Party of God" jihadis forever.
I think the Canadian public will come around as events unfold. France is the only (formerly?) western nation where the future looks bleak IMHO.
Posted by: Tom Penn at August 14, 2006 3:37 AMTom, I too feel the same way. With six beautiful Grand children I have no intention of acquiescing my duty as a parent or Grand Parent for the sake of anyone or anything. Period. My father, that just died short of his 90th birthday probably summed up the events of today best. He said this is the same as the thirties, same people protesting, in the same way about the same things they really new nothing about. When asked who the same people were he said Commies and government workers. I guess things don't change, just the names. His best line was, who cares about a wolf in sheep's clothing, there easy to tell apart, it's the Judas goat in sheep’s clothing you have to worry about, they think they are the same as you.
Posted by: Western Canadian at August 14, 2006 11:32 AM"I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no (God) but Allah, and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah." (Muslim: C9BIN33)
Mohammads last words.
And the last words on whether or not Islam is a threat to freedom and life.
End Muslim immigration. Ban Islam. It kills.
Posted by: ID at August 14, 2006 2:36 PMWC, your dad was a very wise man.
Posted by: Tom Penn at August 14, 2006 2:46 PMI cant beleive you guys compare the israeli suffering done by hezbollah to the lebanese suffering done by a terrorist state. Islam is not the death cult, its ISREAL THATS THE DEATH CULT. Hezbollah's so called "terrorist killings" of a few Israeli civilians can not be compared to Isreal's terrorist killings of 1000+ civilians. And its funny how you only got about 50 supporters...... mostly all jews.
Posted by: micheal at August 14, 2006 7:10 PMIts funny how you call Muslims terrorists or problematic. Do you know why a minority of Muslims commit terrorist acts, because of people like you, who keep on bashing muslims for things that only a small minority do. Hezbollah is not the problem here, Israel is. Arabs lived with Jews peacefully until the prospect of occupying ARAB land came up. ISRAEL is what has caused all the problems in the Middle East, and your all just too naive to see that.
Posted by: Joseph at August 14, 2006 7:30 PM"Do you know why a minority of Muslims commit terrorist acts, because of people like you, who keep on bashing muslims for things that only a small minority do."
I don't even know what this means.
Muhammed...dirka dirka.
Actually "Michael" and "Joseph" (actually "mohammed" and "ali" right?) the reason we don't like you is because you say stuff like "mostly all Jews".
So we're even.
Muslims commit terrorist acts because people like me keep on having the bad manners to point out that muslims commit terrorist acts?
Are you SURE you people invented chess? What sub-moronic low lifes you are.
Posted by: kathy Shaidle at August 14, 2006 7:57 PMAnd the reason we dont like you is because you say stuff like "mostly all Muslims."
I did not say anything wrong about jews. All i said is that most of the support that you guys are going to get are from fellow jews. Im not an anti-semite, im an anti-israeli.... Many Jews are smart enough to see that the acts of the terrorist state of Israel are far worse than the acts of Hezbollah.
Posted by: joseph at August 14, 2006 8:11 PMMultirec, are you that stupid to not know what that means? One terrorist attack by a group of about 20 Muslims in 2001 is what unleashed islamophobia> Racist pigs like you call all Muslims terrorists, and occupy muslims/arab land like lebanon, iraq, afghanistan> Some Muslims get angry, kill westerners and israeli pigs, process starts all over again.
Muslims are not the pigs, all of you israeli supporters are pigs. All of you who support massacres against arab, all of you who beleive jews are worth more than arabs. You are all pigs.
Posted by: joseph at August 14, 2006 8:16 PMI'm not a Jew "Joseph". And at least I have the courage to post under my real name.
You assume all the people on this site are Jews, even though you have no basis for doing so.
Yet I have decades of evidence to prove that most terrorists are Muslims. Yeah, I notice when you mention 2001 that you bring up the "20 Muslims" and not the 3000 dead. Shows where your twisted priorities are.
And you know "Joe", pigs are very clean, intelligent creatures.
Which is more than I can say...
Posted by: kathy Shaidle at August 14, 2006 8:21 PM"One terrorist attack by a group of about 20 Muslims in 2001 is what unleashed islamophobia>"
Mmmkay then! I was pretty sure that mussies have been doing terrorist attacks far longer than 2001, but then again why am I trying to explain this to an uneducated, rabid nazi?
Dirka dirka dummy!
joseph.........
Oink,Oink
Now I must go put the I'm with Isreal banner on my blog.
Oink.
Posted by: Mugs at August 14, 2006 8:38 PMjoesph and michael, please explain how the terrorist attacks on Casablanca, Madrid, London, Kuta, Karachi, New York, Nairobi, Dar es Saalam, Riyadh, Taba, Luxor, Bombay, Moscow, Beslan, Amman, and Istanbul helped advance the righteous Muslim cause to kill all Jews?
Also, let me ask you, do you think Muslims would have given Jews back the land if Muslims had won any of the wars of aggression they waged against Israel?
By the way, I am also not a Jew.
Posted by: Tom Penn at August 14, 2006 8:39 PMRe the Calgary "Peace Rally"
After spending a little time downtown today, I basically came away shaking my head.
From meeting with the executive director of the Calgary Police Commission (non-operational), I was left with the very clear impression that the extreme political correctness in which we find ourselves is the way it is so.....
Read - it is o.k. to fly the Hesbollah flag at the base of our war memorial in a protest rally.... so it may not fit in with your (my) value system, it is the way it is. Not her direct quote but certainly this is what it boils down to.
The rally permit was made in the name of the Calgary District Labor Council. Apparently no details re the rally, the speakers, the whatever, are required on an application.
The person who approved the permit was Garry Cook
from the Parks and Recreation Department of the City of Calgary. He had little idea of what this particular rally was all about and was kind enough to hear me out. There are people much higher than he is in the hiearchy who should be concerned but....
Should anyone want to express their concern(s), his phone number is 403-221-4563. Hopefully we will not see another such rally at Memorial Park.
Madeline King is the city alderman rep in which the park is located. She is now aware of the fact that this rally took place and that the Hez flag was flown.
The local phone-in program had some discussion about the rally this a.m. (Mon) and in particular the flying of the Hez flag. The stucture of the program is such that there are not to many phone- ins so it is hard to guage if there was any impact or not. CHQR 770 has a wide listening audience in these parts.
The Calgary Herald had no coverage of any of the goings on. The Sun had a very small, inconsequential item of about 5" of one column. Sad but not surprising.
The question really becomes - who really gives a damn and do we have enough numbers to make a difference
Posted by: calgary clipper at August 14, 2006 9:45 PMI just want to say that i do agree with alot of the people here about what went down at the rally.I'm 100% Canadian and i'm very proud to be a Canadian and i don't believe in what those protester's were doing waving a Hez flag anywhere except for were it came from and if i see a HEZ flag being waved where ever i go,i will do whatever it takes to get that flag either put away or burn it.You's that have had permission to live legally in CANADA should consider themselve's very,very lucky to even be here and enjoying a better life style instead of living in fear were the next "bomb" is going to hit or the next person to get shot down to the ground,so do yourselve's a favour and keep your Hez flags at home and wave the Canadian flag it just might restore your self confidence and the freedom you's now have or maybe waving the HEZ flag is your way of saying,"I want to go back to my home land"i don't like it here no more!!!.Our government would be more than happy to send you back were you's came from.I sure won't miss you's and your pitty protest rally's and your Hez flag.Take your flag and shove it were the sun don't shine cause we don't need to be subjected to it at all disgracing our fallen Soldiers at the memorial site and if you do it there you are also disgracing every other Canadian Soldier that has given his or her life to give us the freedom and the land we live on to this very day.
Posted by: Mike D. at August 15, 2006 6:40 PMSupporting an outlawed organization ( Hezbollah) is a criminal offense in Canada and arrest can be arbitrary without warrant under the anti-terror act...where are the arrests? We see the Hezbollah flag flown in pardes that Liberal and PQ politicians partake in....openly committing crimes of subversion according to our laws.
Has Canadian federal rule of law become as two tiered as the rule of law in Caledonia?
Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at August 17, 2006 10:35 AMHez is only outlawed in three countries in the whole world. If you're ignorant enough to think that these three countries say this because its true and has nothing to do with the fact that Israel and america are trying to control the middle east then I pity you. Even the UN says that Hez is not a terrorist organization and if any of you knew what you were talking about you would realize that.
Posted by: "Terrorists" at August 17, 2006 4:46 PM