"I’d like to hear more about your “tyke” by the way. Girl? Boy? Toddler? Teen? Are you still married to the woman you ephed to give birth to the tyke?Tell all, bro!"
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"[...] as I said elsewhere, if I woke up tomorrow and learned that someone else had shot you and your “tyke” it wouldn’t slow me down one iota. You aren’t “human” to me."
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" Ooh. Two year old boy. Sounds hot. You live in Colorado, I see. Hope no one Jon-Benets your baby.
Are you still married to the woman you humped to produce the toddler? "
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Give your pathetic progeny (I sure hope that mofo got good genes from his mama!) a big fat tongue-filled kiss from me! LOTS AND LOTS OF SALIVA from Auntie MOONBAT, if you don’t mind!
Somehow, Jeffy boy, I think you get off on the possibility of Frenching your pathetic progeny, even if it is a boy. You seem like a VERY, VERY sick mofo to me, bro.
Protein Wisdom is currently down. Her supporters responded to the exposure of her comments by placing Jeff's site under DOS attack.
More - Cheers for the London bombings. Though, she's a little sorry about the widows and amputees.
UPDATE - The newly minted victim apologizes . She has also resigned from the University of Arizona. Before they fired her, is my guess.
Now Doctor, heal thyself.
UPDATE 2 - Protein Wisdom is back.
Posted by Kate at July 8, 2006 9:06 AMShe is one seriously diseased piece of work. One of the milder links Jeff supplied just before his site was crashed by her spawn was her proud admission that she'd trumped up a sexual discrimination claim to secure a job at the University of Oregon.
http://debfrisch.com/archives/2005/01/quacksoregon_1.html
It would appear that they were still able to get rid of her, though.
And this is the type of teacher that U of Arizona is pleased to employ to instruct their students?
Thats scary.Which university did she get her docterate at and how many more of those things are there?
Posted by: spike 1 at July 8, 2006 10:17 AMWow. I take it that, for her, higher education refers to taking the most drugs.
How comforting that she's helping to mould tomorrow's minds, in the field of psychology no less. If it really was her posting, and the other psych faculty don't pitch her out (which would be preferable), hopefully they can at least treat her acute psychosis.
Posted by: crosseyedcyclops at July 8, 2006 10:21 AMYes, she's probably, clinically, a full-blown sociopath. That type can be extremely manipulative, very charming and convincing (that's probably how she got the jobs). They work by emotionally bonding people to them, even though they are, themselves, incapable of deep emotion. They are beyond help, you can't cure a sociopath, it's not a neurosis.
Jobs and power are attained by manipulation of people, by setting up personal attachments, and so on. Usually, they are pathological liars, and will say anything without feeling any accountability for it.
It can be difficult to deal with a sociopath because he/she works by manipulating people into being followers. The focus is always on emotional bonding. These followers will defend him/her completely. Coupled with the pathological lies of the sociopath, the complete disdain for accountability, and the need to destroy anyone who doesn't follow him/her - it's quite a combination.
Posted by: ET at July 8, 2006 10:38 AMDeb Frisch, with the wine bottle:
http://www.azstarnet.com/ss/2004/02/24/11198-1.jpg
Posted by: Skip at July 8, 2006 10:39 AMsorry - originating link for that image is
http://www.no-treason.com/archives/2005/02/27/rotten-statist-bitch-vs-austrian-paleocreep-love/
Posted by: Skip at July 8, 2006 10:40 AMA google exercise will show that she is a well known internet stalker, apparently, including a law professor at UCLA:
Update: One more email from a reader to share:
I realize that you are finished taking notice of Deb Frisch's "mistakes and misrepresentations" - and with good reason - but I happened to read your first post about her yesterday and after looking around her website was truly appalled by this post that appears to now be removed from the main page and archives of her website but which I have the archived link to because I forwarded it to my girlfriend (we were both in your Business Associations class while at UCLA). I have no idea if you've seen this diatribe. [Prof B: Yep. I saw it.] At first I thought it was simply an example of the how, while the internet has provided an invaluable resource for gathering information outside of the mainstream media, it also encourages those who are so inclined to be wildly uncivil. After doing a little poking around though, and discovering that this lady is a professor in the psychology department at the University of Arizona, I was genuinely disturbed. First, the childish nature of her insults directed at you are really striking coming from an educator. Second, she proudly belittles the idea that you would expect accuracy from her (i.e., not claiming that you had taken a position on the Summers brouhaha that you hadn't). Does the UofA really want professors to whom accuracy is to be mocked? Third, as if to prove how unconcerned she is with accuracy, she attributes to you a quote from a Charles Krauthammer column that you (admittedly approvingly) had partially reproduced on your site without acknowledging that's what she had done. Fourth, and far and away the worst, she mocks the idea of Christianity without any humor whatsoever, and proudly puts forth the idea that one cannot be a decent professor if one believes in God, Jesus or presumably any other deity. I enjoy reading your blog, but I am not religious and am a political moderate. However, I don't see how anyone could fail to be worried about the fact that this woman is influencing students at a large university (in the Pac-10 no less!). Unfortunately, being shrill, careless, and intellectually dishonest appears to be no barrier to academic success. Equally unfortunately, they're also qualities that will appeal to a certain segment of the blogosphere. In any case, what we have here is what Jonah Goldberg referred to the other day as "one of those fun Internet fights between two people who do not like or respect each other." As I noted above, however, life's too short to waste on such people.
Update: Deborah Frisch continues stalking my site, sending trackbacks to multiple posts to link to ad hominem attacks. While I appreciate the boost to my TTLB Ecosystem link score, I'm not giving the [rhymes with witch] access to my site. Hence, she is the first and only person whose trackbacks I am routinely deleting from my site. (After her offensive emails, I've also added her to my email filter blocks.)
February 08, 2005
http://www.professorbainbridge.com/2005/02/ucla_faculty_di.html
This nutbar's sick rantings help confirm my suspicion that some folks who go into psychology and psychiatry do so more for "self-help" reasons.
I've met some pretty nutty psych majors...
Posted by: Rob at July 8, 2006 11:29 AMBack in the 60's, when I fraternised with the UBC crowd, many were psych students.Some of the psych students told me they majored in that discipline to try to find answers for their own psychological problems.
I think Deb Frisch fits this category. She has the schooling, but never gained any insight into her own troubles.
The woman sounds more like a demented asylum patient than a supposedly educated academic. I think ET is right, sociopath. The police need to have a serious talk with her as, she may not be physically dangerous, but her hateful remarks could very well spur one of her demented followers into murderous action.
We have a psych prof. out here who isn't a violent stalker, or involved in any criminal activity, but uses his classroom time to extoll the virtues of expanding the mind through LSD.
Lunacy seems to run in the profession.
Posted by: dmorris at July 8, 2006 11:45 AMYes, I'd agree, some who go into pyschology do it for personal self-help reasons. It's also a discipline that can lend itself, in its non-applied format, to the non-empirical 'study' of various ungrounded feelings and opinions. No need for data or reason or logic. Sociology is similar. Just write what you feel.
A sociopath is untreatable. But they can be very charming, can play the 'victim' perfectly and their manipulative tactics, focus on emotion, and pathological lying, get them very far. It's extremely difficult to deal with them, because of all of the above, and they readily collect a group of faithful followers to protect them. The faithful followers usually do all the dirty work, programmed by the sociopath.
Posted by: ET at July 8, 2006 11:54 AMAfter reading the London post you provided the link to, I clicked her main page. Todays post is an apology to Jeff and announcement of her resignation from U of Arizona.
Posted by: Polly at July 8, 2006 11:54 AMHmm. I didn't see her comments on ProteinWisdom, because the blog was down. If she threatened him and his child, and that was under her name and in public, then, the administration of the University could get rid of her - and tell her to resign. Her union wouldn't be able to support her.
And now, she is, as a typical sociopath, playing the victim.
Posted by: ET at July 8, 2006 12:03 PMI imagine she was given the choice of resigning or getting booted, since in the post she mentions people " . . . emailed my boss at the University of Arizona to tell on me." and states "Jeff - I lost my job. You won. Could you call off the troops?"
So... Sounds like she was fired with the option of spinning it to save face. Good on the University. The sad -- but not unexpected -- thing is that she seems to be trying to paint herself as a victim... But since she got what she deserved, I'll leave her alone except to state that the outrage wasn't some conspiracy or massing of the troops perpetrated by this Jeff fellow, but rather the rational response of people who couldn't fathom her being in a position of intellectual and educational authority over people seeking (and paying handsomely) to expand their minds.
Good riddance.
Posted by: crosseyedcyclops at July 8, 2006 12:14 PMI have to confess, I am somewhat ambivalent about airing all of this dirty laundry here. On the one hand, it's not psychologically healthy to wallow in the past or feed old furies. On the other hand, sleazy judeo-christian white guys get away with so much sh** and have done so much damage to the US of A, that why the he** shouldn't I use my blog to say ephu to a few of the futhermuckers? If I shared my feelings about dubya, the cia&fbi&etc. would come knocking at my door. If I share my feelings about mick&mike&etc., there are no consequences. Besides, as Mick loved to point out, we are both Jewish. We come from a VERY vengeful people.
On the other hand, part of the reason I'm still angry, the reason I chose to finegle a demotion instead of finding another job is that I LOVE EUGENE - the kumbaya, tofu, peace, love, tiedye capital of the world. Be the change you want to see. Visualize whirled peas. You cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war. Om.
I found this nugget on her site from her June '05 archive. What a profoundly immature and not very bright person.
Right on, ET. Your classic sociopath....."there are no consequences". Let's hope as she's not tenured that she runs smack into a big consequence of her behavior now. I sent an email to the university with a cc to her, of course.
Posted by: penny at July 8, 2006 12:49 PMWhat's also disturbing about this whole episode is that until her comments were publically held up to the daylight and the profundity of her disturbed mental state thereby revealed such that it could no longer be ignored, she probably fit in perfectly with the left wing mindset of modern academia.
Posted by: DrD at July 8, 2006 1:27 PMI wrote some inflammatory comments at a blog by a guy named Jeff Goldstein called protein wisdom ...
A university prof puts together a sentence like that? Small wonder that graduates can barely read or write.
Posted by: Mississauga Matt at July 8, 2006 1:51 PMIf you are not yet convinced that Deborah Frisch has a pattern of this kind of behavior, read on. This is a partial quote from her posts on Left2Right in early 2005.
Link here: http://left2right.typepad.com/main/2004/12/on_blogosphere_.html
Quotes:
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I am about as unanonymous as they get, aardvark.
My name is Deborah Frisch. I live in Tucson, Arizona. I teach in the psychology department at the YOUkneeversity of AIRYzona.
You want to come find me, see that I'm real, hold a .357 magnum in my face, i say:
BRING IT ON.
Posted by: Deborah Frisch | Jan 3, 2005 8:02:40 PM
Posted by: DF
One day, some cheeky blogger is going to be offed by a psychopathic blogger. Will it be a scuffle@left2right? idunno.
i hope to hell it ain't me, i gotta tell ya.
but i feel kind of guilty for not blowing myself up on the steps of the lincoln memorial when i lived in d.c. while i was doing out pork for sam..so in a way, i WANT some futhermucker A-hole to off me because i pissed him off in the blogosphere.
BRING IT ON, FUTHERMUCKERS!!!!!!!!
Posted by: DF | Jan 3, 2005 8:06:43 PM
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Posted by: Bill at July 8, 2006 1:58 PMA university professor that writes like a pre-teen. That is truly a sad thing.
Posted by: rhebner at July 8, 2006 1:58 PMAnd there smack dab in the middle of the comments section of Frish's blog, in which every comment is rightly condemning of her actions, is SDAs resident lefty Troll Robert McLelland supporting Ms Frish - way to go Robert!
Posted by: ward at July 8, 2006 2:00 PMHey Robert McLelland.
A supportive message to Frish!!
Can you change your name please.
Perhaps you could become a Steve, or maybe Big City Liberal, wait, that's already taken.
You could Big "blank" Liberal.
Fill in the blank with whatever you want.
Posted by: Robert in Calgary at July 8, 2006 2:06 PMFrisch's "White Flag" post on her website (debfrisch.com) received almost nothing but scathing comments.
Interesting to note that one of the few, if not only, people to sympatize with or defend her was one Robert McClelland of myblagh.com.
Posted by: JR at July 8, 2006 2:06 PMWho's running the asylum? This woman is off her meds and her rocker. Completely out of touch with reality to think her threats, comments, behaviour would go un-noticed, un-punished. It's amazing the calibre of people who make it in her profession,and similair ones, and then go on to teach.
In your aploogy link, I liked some of the comments. Especially the one posted by: Kit Jarrell at July 8, 2006 10:25 AM
Posted by: Cheri at July 8, 2006 2:08 PMShe also comments on the "Freakonomics" website (a virtually apolitical blog on assorted subjects) that economists are worse than Bin Laden. It's hard not to get the feeling that she's serious.
Posted by: Desert Fox at July 8, 2006 2:23 PMWell colour me Pink ............this is not my usuall roaming area but when you linked to this site before I thought it was a SPOOF!
My guess was that she was baiting the lunatic fringes to vent for some reason.
Well.....!
Posted by: OMMAG at July 8, 2006 2:27 PMFrisch is one more example of the warped mentality that is so prevalent on the left. It’s an example that clearly illustrates that the extremist roots of Fascism, Naziism and their modern totalitarian equivalents are to be found in socialism - something that the left has long attempted to deny.
Out here on the left coast there’s no shortage of examples of this either. If there’s ever a nasty streak to be put on display it inevitably comes from the left. For example, our nominally right-wing premier Gordon Campbell’s riding offices were bombed; his wife’s school office was torched, and; he was physically and verbally harassed on a commercial flight.
There should be no doubt that if there are dirty deeds to be done or nasty thoughts to be expressed there’s a ready supply of lefty moonbats to volunteer their services.
The depravity of this woman is simply overwhelming.
Posted by: Dante at July 8, 2006 2:50 PMI know a few people who have gone to U of A and I know a few who work there too.
From what I have heard and seen some departments (such as Womans Studies) have been run by Marxist lesbians for years.
I am not at all surprised this person worked at the U of A.
Parents need to be very very careful where they send their children to college and many more of these so called teachers need to be rooted OUT.
Posted by: concrete at July 8, 2006 3:18 PMMenopausal overweight lesbian bullbitch with a hate on for men? A first observation, never heard of this thing called frisch before, just a guess.
Posted by: Western Canadian at July 8, 2006 3:37 PMArizona Daily Wildcat (university newspaper)
Newsroom (520) 621-3551
http://wildcat.arizona.edu/home/lettertotheeditor/
Tucson Citizen
Phone: (520) 573-4561
news@tucsoncitizen.com
http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/misc/contactus
Arizona Star
http://regulus2.azstarnet.com/contacts/index.php
Oregon Daily Emerald (university newspaper)
Newsroom:
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Oregon Register-Guard
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And McLellan sends his best wishes to this kind of dirt.
Liquid sewage finds its own level.
Scary, I hope PW sues; I can’t wait to hear the so-called root causes defense.
Posted by: Bernie at July 8, 2006 5:13 PMI've taught at over a dozen universties and colleges and EVERYWHERE one runs into people like Deb Frisch. Most such radicals are better at keeping their insanity quiet, working their evil in classrooms and hiring committees.
No doubt she will find another cozy position at another university or college because these people (radical atheist-homosexual-nihilists) form a very powerful network in academia.
Only when parents find some guts and stop sending their kids to schools where such people run loose will anything change.
D. Ox
http://thomistic.blogspot.com
I just heard of that from one of my commentors.
Oh, man... another unhinged professor uttering death threats. And a psych professor at that!
Leftists think they can say and do whatever they want, don't they?
Well, consequences should be harsher for such behavior than they currently are, including for leftists... hell, for ALL people, no exceptions!
Whatever happened to civil society? I believe liberalism has eroded civility in society by letting people say and do more and more without consequences. They keep going further and further... it's scary.
Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at July 8, 2006 7:08 PMCanadian Sentinel
I believe liberalism has eroded civility in society by letting people say and do more and more without consequences. They keep going further and further... it's scary.
You caught that ill wind completely. Nice analysis.
She is just another maggot feeding on the necrotic flesh of Academia, or what passes for higher learning today.
This is the strange fruit of years of Socialist nihilism. Unfettered abortion, even during birth. The treating of assisted Suicide as a right. In fact making it a Moral choice!!!
Making hero's of killers, preying on the sick.
The acceptance, from the constant drum beat by the MSM for murdering people in the name of Quality of life. The loathing generated by these lefties for the handicapped or any abnormality. Thus the constant drone to have "mercy" on them & kill them all.
The abuse of the aged. Throw away parents or relatives. Another manifestation of the "year zero" Utopia mentality of the lefties.
The fact that anyone no matter how young or old ought to be able to terminated by government doctors. While lionizing mass murders & proclaiming there dislike of the death penalty.
This is just another eruption of the Socialist mental affliction. It why I
I believe its a pathology all its own.
After all this contempt for life are we really surprised at this hate? The shrill rage she displays. The use of excessive threats with personnel malice against a family. The usual leftie tactic to rattle folks. Useing threats against someone’s young? With no show of remorse, or even the realization of what she had done. Hedgy Fry anyone? This world has become a horror show if your a child. Not to mention for the rest of us as the mad run things, with death as there idol.
I found her utter contempt for religion to be almost gloating. Like she is winning a war? Odd, real odd behavior. Christians are told even to not malign the Devil. In other words to have respect for all. Obviously she has never heard that or thinks it a quaint notion.
Anyway she is a product of our times, & why the shadow of anarchy is about.
Posted by: Revnant Dream at July 8, 2006 9:16 PMThe supportive comments of our good friend Robert McClelland...
"Tough break. It's a hard way to learn that there's a double standard when it comes to death threats. The right can go on national tv and make them (ie. Adams Apple Annie) but the left never can; not even in a moment of anger on some paste eater's blog.
You shouldn't have resigned though. The right whingers only foam at the mouth for a short time before becoming distracted by their next 5 minute hate."
Posted by: a at July 8, 2006 10:22 PMI greatly appreciate your covering this matter, Kate-- I psuedoblogged it here:
http://tinyurl.com/h5tt9
and contacted David Horowitz about it.
( Just an old keyboard cowboy, and so on and so forth... )
This woman sounds awful, all right--unhinged, to put it gently. A bit like...Rachel Marsden or Ann Coulter or Julia Gorin ("exterminate the cockroaches"), but without the media exposure.
Posted by: Dr.Dawg at July 9, 2006 9:11 AMActually Dawg - she's a bit like ... Meaghan Walker-Williams. Or any of her 35 sock puppets.
Oh god, her pic looks like she's a sexually frustrated 80's feminazi dyke.
I'm a dyke and a feminist, but those damned feminazi dykes generally are not in touch with reality at all.
No wonder liberals are posting on her sight for her to shut the F up and not bring their cause down on her sinking ship.
Interesting how her type of left winger can't debate the issues without spinning completely out of control when challenged with little things, like logic.
Posted by: Kyla at July 9, 2006 9:51 PMDr. cure thyself!
Posted by: W L Mackenzie redux at July 10, 2006 9:05 AMI have read a lot of stuff at Protein, and never really thought he was THAT out to lunch on most items. Fairly rational all in all, much like most of us. I never read the others work at all until....
I don't write a blog, so when I have a bad day, I don't vent publicly - ergo I most likely am also thought of as rational. Perhaps I would be prone to some vacuous gasbag comment much like the authors. I don't know.
But, having read a little of the blogs involved, all I can say is "Ewww". I think I'll go wash now. With disinfectant. Copiously.
Posted by: JimC at July 10, 2006 7:29 PM