An article by Flemming Rose, cultural editor at Jyllands-Posten (published the Mohammed cartoons) points out the flaws of multiculturalism and societal guilt as the bases of policy towards immigrant (esp. Muslim) minorities. Sound familiar?
http://www.signandsight.com/features/782.html

Mark
Ottawa

Anybody take any screen shots of the Volpe spoof site before it was shut down?

Beware: This "deal" could be the end of Charest's government, if the thing is seriously applied/enforced. Quebec is a socialist/unionized state within the boundary of Canada; protectionism of the homeland is supreme. The end result: Bye/Bonjour, Jean Charest?

Ontario-Quebec Hammer Out Construction Deal
Josh Pringle
Friday, June 2, 2006

Ontario and Quebec will announce an agreement today to let Ontario construction workers hop the border and work in Quebec.

Premier Dalton McGuinty and Quebec's Jean Charest will announce the deal today in Ottawa.

The construction worker dispute has been a major irritant in relations for years.

Quebec's labour laws specify that all construction workers in the province must be a member of a Quebec union.
cfra.com

So let me get this straight. If I don't like a particular Canadian website I can get CDNS to shut it down? Or do I have to get my Uncle Linguini to make the request? Liberals, the caraganas of the political world.

BTW: Just what is up with the justice system lately? A judge orders police to take down an illegal barracade and everyone has to think about how it impacts the issue rather than obey the law. And then a sicko pedophile in quebec rapes his own child repeatedly over years and he gets his sentence reduced because it isn't as bad a crime as it could have been? WTF!!! Maybe he was also too short to serve time like an American example of a judicial travesty.

Craig,

I forget which site had it, but last night, someone posted the whole hilarious thing as a PDF file. I saved a copy of it (it's .5 Mb). How to get it to you?

Definitely a keeper. Especially since Volpe had it whacked. Which was illogical, given that he contends that it was 100% legal and that he is personally responsible for raising the bar on ethics in terms of leadership race funding.

Think of the possibilities. Does Apotex do embryonic research? Imagine if every stem cell in every ice cube on the property coughed up $5400....

"Frankly and clearly" (my two favourite Librano doublespeak terms), I think the guy deserves to win based on the fact that he can claim the higher ground and keep a straight face at the same time. That's worth something.

There's a poll over on Bourque - not exactly an Liberal-unfriendly site - that has 88% of respondents saying that Volpe should quit the race.

What Harper has to put up with

David Jones, Citizen Special
Published: Friday, June 02, 2006

It is hard for an observer of the Canadian scene not to smile while watching the media mud-wrestling with a man that most reporters clearly dislike either personally or politically but are forced to endure because he is prime minister.

To be sure, there is no society with a free press in which its politicians do not believe that they are creatively (maliciously) misunderstood by elements of that press -- even when they are understood all too accurately. But for the media to retort disingenuously that they are axiomatically "fair and balanced" produces its own eyeball rolls.

To the immense irritation of the Parliamentary Press Gallery, Prime Minister Stephen Harper has refused to play by their game rules. Having examined the "game" during the period when he was in opposition and during election campaigns, he apparently concluded that it was stacked against him. And that he would be a fool to play by its rules.

Of course those who made up the rules (the Parliamentary Press Gallery) think them fair and even-handed.

Mr. Harper has adopted the Boston politics ethos: "Don't get mad; get even." And now, from a position in which he can play the game in a manner more to his preference, he is changing the rules. Surprise! The matador, having tired of being gored, is demonstrating his mastery of riposte. ...
http://www.paulding.net/bin/url.cgi/13301.5

It's the thought that counts, right?

Years ago, when I was going through a time of discouragement, a "friend" said to me in total I feel your pain seriousness, "I know you're feeling down and I was thinking about you yesterday. I was going to send you flowers." In my "friend's" earnestness, she was convinced that the thought of sending me flowers was just as good as following through on the good intention. 'Definitely someone on the chain gang making improvements on the road to Hell.

"I was going to send you flowers" is now a family joke when a good intention has somehow gone awry.

Now we've got ex-PMPM earnestly intoning that "we all BELIEVED we had an accord around the table" at Kelowna. In fact, as the world turns, there is no Kelowna Accord: just a press release and a one-piece document with no signatures from the provinces. And ex PMPM's good intentions.

"But," says ex-PMPM, "I was going to get an accord together, honest." In his slippery, Librano, not attached to the real world mind, just the intention of a Kelowna Accord makes it a reality.

So now we have PMSH and the CPC, Jim Prentice in particular, getting it in the jugular from the LPC, the Native Chiefs, and all the leftie bleeding-heart libs and Dippers because they've gutted a non-existent Accord.

'Doesn't get much more Kafka-esque than this, does it?

"The courts give winking approval to polygamy"

Kate, gwarsh, umm, gee, ah...well...ah, ummm...you know, ummm, aaahhh...ummm...

Um, let me check with my wife first...

;-)

hehehe

craig - the Volpe spoof, which is brilliant, is saved at:
http://policycanada.blogspot.com

It's saved in pdf and is too good a parody for any Liberal to have the right to shut down.

There is such a thing as freedom of speech, something else that Volpe seems to have forgotten. Are we moving into the Muslim cartoons mode of mind, where we will censor any speech that criticizes us, whether by analysis or comic tactics?

It's a perfect spoof and Volpe deserves the criticism.

That Joe Volpe was able to have the spoof site taken down simply by telling the domain name registry to do it speaks volumes about the state of this country. There is no freedom of the Press, no right to comment, no escape from the establishment---which is Liberal to the core, and is only temporarily and barely tolerating our duly elected Prime Minister.

Where is the Blogger outrage about what Volpe was allowed to do? Where is the protest? Why are not bloggers re-posting the spoof site? If I had a blog that had any visibility, that's what I'd do, and to hell with the failed criminal gang called the LPC!

new kid - many thanks for the comments on the Kelowna. And, the 'Liberal Style'. Perfect description of their style.

ummm...she said "NO!!!"

*sigh*

We agreed I'd make the important decisions in our marrige and she'd make the small ones.

So after 8 years she's told me there hasn't been anything really important to decide on...

As well any purchases I make over $100 we have both agree on...so I got the local computer store to make out two invoices out for $99 on a DVD Player I wanted for my computer, but when the Visa bill came in today...

Erg...

Sleeping in the car isn't fun anymore...

Thanks ET for the www address for Volpe for Youth. I nearly wet my pants!! The endorphins are overflowing!!!

Patrick B. Exactly. As many bloggers as possible ought to be posting and posting that site.

One individual, and a Liberal, has the power to shut down freedom of speech?

This is a 'Muslim Cartoon Tactic' fighting freedom of speech. Asserting that 'if I feel insulted by your criticism of me, then, I will silence you'.

Bloggers - get busy! Post the spoof on your website. Daily. Again and again. Freedom of speech is a Charter Right. Silencing this freedom is not Volpe's right.

Again, the site is:
http://policycanada.blogspot.com

My suggestion - copy it to as many sites as possible. It's not about Volpe at the moment. It's about a Charter Right and Volpe's attack on that right.

By the way - another comment, on the 'no passports because there'll be no tourists'.

I think it's an emotional diversion, painting Canadians, yet again, as hapless victims of American whatever.

Why should Americans come to Canada, a land where they are defined essentially, as 'evil imperialist dogs'? If we want tourists to come, do we define them in such a hostile manner?

The US requirement for Americans to have passports is, I feel, their business. The US requirement for all visitors to their country also having a passport is, again, their business.

What is the problem with getting a Canadian passport? Is it the cost? Then, if the government is worried, lower the cost.

We are not a European Union, where a passport lets you into one and therefore all countries in that union. Until the US feels that our security standards are high enough to enable THEM to feel that someone coming into Canada and then, going on to the US, is already a reasonably secure individual - they have every right to insist on passports.

Kate:

I'm a racing car person. Have been for more than 50 years. What kind of racing car are you painting?

Photos?

Mike in White Rock

By the way, save that pdf file to your own Adobe files. I'm sure Volpe will try to get the policycanada website shut down.

http://policycanada.blogspot.com

The Volpe file is there, in pdf. Simply open it and then save it to your own computer in pdf.

Freedom of speech, whether expressed in academic analysis, or comical spoofs, or cartoons, is a basic right of democoracy. Volpe has no right to shut down that right.

Mike in White Rock:

I'm another one. I miss going to your Indy. Will try to make it to the CASCAR race at Sun Valley in July, though. Where do you race?

I'm heading to Kawartha Speedway tonight for the start of the OSCAAR Super Late Model season in Ontario.

June 1, 2006
Protesters chase immigration minister from church
...About a dozen protesters began shouting as Solberg took the podium during the annual meeting of Citizens for Public Justice, a group that lobbies on behalf of refugees...
...A Citizens for Public Justice executive member said he was disappointed by the demonstrators' decision to pre-empt Solberg's speech....
....Jaggi Singh, a well-known local activist who participated in the protest, dismissed Solberg's unheard speech as a "false dialogue" and defended the move to prevent him from delivering it....
...Citizens for Public Justice had planned to present Solberg with a petition calling for stronger protections for refugees....
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/06/01/solberg-protest.html

Citizens for Public Justice:
What's the threat?
Last year, when the Summit of the Americas was held in Quebec City and Canadians of all stripes travelled to join protests, many were shocked to learn that activist Jaggi Singh, of APEC pepper-spray fame, was pulled out of the crowds and held as a security threat for days. Singh is a Canadian citizen with the right to peaceful protest, and he was held beyond reason, with many viewing the action as a vendetta for the trouble he caused security forces since APEC....
http://cpj.ca/otherwork/Peace_and_Security/index.html?ap=1&x=78734

PROFILE OF JAGGI SINGH
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/featurestories/protest/jaghi.html

Thanks for the link, ET!

Not being too computer savvy, can someone get the video clip of CBS newsworld, with Suhanna, at about 9.00 a.m. Alberta time. Some blond reporterette was reporting on the speech to the mayors, by the PM, and referred to Prime Minister Steven Martin. The PM is taking questions.

maryT, Almost as bad as what I saw on Channel 7 (global) in Calgary last night regarding a rapist in NE Calgary.

The well endowned blonde bimbo news reporter was wearing a tight, low cut T-shirt and tight pants doing the "on the spot" reporting.

At least she put on a light jacket in one shot when talking to the camera, but come on, have a bit of modesty, especially in light of what just happened to the poor ladies.

Perhaps everybody should contact CIRA at http://www.cira.ca/en/contactus-1.html and ask if this is their standard operating policy.

The sound of "shoot the media" is heard in the land.

Joe Volpe has said: FFFF free speech, charterrights, websites, and more. Volpe is the Librano$ Lord High Executioner:

Behold the Lord High Executioner A personage of noble rank and title — ... Defer, defer, To the noble Lord, to the noble Lord, To the Lord High Executioner! ... (H/T The Mikado, Gilbert and Sullivan).

Volpe is The Law; Volpe has said... FFFF the Rule of Law.

Down with Volpe and his Tribe.

Down with the Librano$. ...

Native protest imperils 'rule of law'
hearing: Lawyer calls for use of force in Ontario land dispute

Adrian Humphreys
National Post

Friday, June 02, 2006

CAYUGA, Ont. - A judge, fearing that native blockades were destroying the "rule of law" in his community, forced nearly a dozen lawyers into his rural Ontario courthouse yesterday for a highly unusual court hearing.

As more than a dozen Ontario Provincial Police officers ringed the historic courthouse in Cayuga, about an hour's drive southwest of Hamilton, almost as many lawyers gathered inside before Justice T. David Marshall, the senior Ontario Superior Court judge for the area, to answer pointed questions on why native protests and blockades remained despite court orders and injunctions.

Highlighting the deep divide on the issue, amid the pleas of patience and peace, Judge Marshall heard: that negotiating with natives was like trying to appease Adolf Hitler prior to the Second World War; a suggestion that the protesters were dangerously close to being terrorists; and a call to "shoot the media." ...
http://www.paulding.net/bin/url.cgi/13301.6

Eye witness account with photo of Monte Solberg being hounded out of meeting by pro immigration activists:

http://relapsedcatholic.blogspot.com/2006/06/eye-witness-account-solberg-threatened.html

I feel much safer now knowing this:

10 injured fleeing smoke in subway
..."It was a real panic situation for us as police officers ... we didn't know what we had at first," said Sergeant Jeff Zammit, with 14 Division....
http://tinyurl.com/mo8f9

Speaking as an American, a conservative and (mostly but by no means entirely) a Bush supporter:

I see no point in asking Canada and Canadians to jump through all sorts of hoops in the name of securing America's northern border when Bush, the Republicans AND the Democrats all refuse to secure the REALLY dangerous border threatening our national security, our southern one.

It pains me to say this. I see this refusal, this pandering to Hispanic illegal aliens is done at the behest of powerful business interests and in the context of both parties manouevering to capture the bulk of the American Hispanic vote.

Mike in White Rock:

I'm another one. I miss going to your Indy. Will try to make it to the CASCAR race at Sun Valley in July, though. Where do you race?

I'm heading to Kawartha Speedway tonight for the start of the OSCAAR Super Late Model season in Ontario.

Posted by: gwgm at June 2, 2006 10:55 AM

I'm into Vintage and Club road racing. Our track is at Mission Raceway Park and Pacific Raceway in Kent, WA.

I'm a scrutineer/tech inspector as well as a "as-helpful-as-I-can-be 68-year-old" crew guy on my friends Vintage Loti, Sadler, and his wife FV.

Contact me at michael_currie@telus.net

"a suggestion that the protesters were dangerously close to being terrorists"

Suggestion??? Since when does calling a spade a spade become a suggestion?

Oh right, in the New Canada.

thanks Mike F. I just wrote CIRA, asking why they removed the site. It was a comic critique of Volpe's fund-raising activities. Freedom of speech is a charter right - and could they explain how Volpe gets to unilaterally censor that right?

I consider it a serious act. First, Volpe has willingly taken funds from minors, knowing full well that the action was to get around Chretien's ban on corporate donations (and don't think that Chretien didn't know exactly what he was setting up).

The fact that it was 'legal' is a corrupt excuse; it is unethical, and that in itself makes it illegal. If Volpe can't understand that an unethical act becomes an illegal act, even if it's not 'on the books' - well, he's a Liberal.

And now, we see that he rejects criticism of himself by censoring freedom of speech. Yet another Liberal strategy.

Again, I hope people are saving that pdf file and posting it on as many blogs as possible.

Protesters chase immigration minister from church
http://tinyurl.com/jtwr3

Jaggi Singh
http://tinyurl.com/zjmzy

Citizens for Public Justice
What's the threat?
Last year, when the Summit of the Americas was held in Quebec City and Canadians of all stripes travelled to join protests, many were shocked to learn that activist Jaggi Singh, of APEC pepper-spray fame, was pulled out of the crowds and held as a security threat for days. Singh is a Canadian citizen with the right to peaceful protest, and he was held beyond reason, with many viewing the action as a vendetta for the trouble he caused security forces since APEC….
http://tinyurl.com/zvhnl

I've got the Volpe pdf up here as well:

http://www.youthforvolpe.no-libs.com/youth.pdf

We'll see if we can't do an end-run on the CDNS as well by recreating the site on US accounts... Uncle Joe needs to learn that the Libranos aren't in charge anymore!

Regarding Kate's head explosion alert, one must wonder how the Socialist left will reconcile their complete rejection of GM crops, but genetically modified BACTERIA is all cool? Uhhhhhh...

Volpe...what is sad is this is the just the one's we heard/know of.

Wonder how many more "back door" palm greasing goes on with the Liberals.

Brown bag spaghetti politics, welcome to New Canada eh.

volpe site removed: So that would make every political spoof ilegal in canada. goodbye Sat.nite live,royal canadian airfarce, this hour has 22min., mad magazine, any comedian, cartoonist, writer...... etc....
My god what have we become, 1939???
We Stand On Guard For Thee

Apparently this has all been cleared up now as Volpe has explained that the 11 year olds were moved by his speech at their school to donate the $5,700 to his leadership bid. Having kids myself I can easily see how they would wish to donate $5,700 to a leadership hopeful rather than wasting their money on bikes and other frivilous things. Despite this, Joe has still decided to return the money. He is a credit to the Liberal party and clearly exhibits all of the qualities that this proud and moral party stands for. Go Joe Go!

bryanr - that's right; that's exactly my point. How come Royal Canadian Air Farce, 22 minutes etc, can do spoofs and not be censored? Is only the Official Voice allowed to criticize?

What about MSM newspaper political cartoons? Are they allowed because they are 'official media'?

But an individual citizen is now allowed? And a more powerful individual citizen can silence the voice of another citizen? Is that what Canadian democracy is about? Or is it 'Liberal democracy'?

So, write to cira. Mike F at 11:30 provides their link and question why they removed the website of a comic critique of Volpe. How do they correlate their action with our charter rights of freedom of speech?

And, save the pdf and send the links to as many web sites as possible.

LIbrano$,the egg-sucking dogs/weasels, are trapped
in the "Fall of The House Of Volpe"*; co-authors include:
Ad$cam Chretien/Martin/Gagliano/Guite/Morselli, et al. All the "Liberal leadership hopefuls" are looking into their mirrors*. What do they see?

"New Democrat MP Pat Martin, who has asked Canada's elections commissioner to investigate Volpe's donations, compared the Liberal party to "an egg-sucking dog."

Volpe returns donations as corruption dogs party

Joe Volpe
The Canadian Press
OTTAWA (Jun 2, 2006)

Excerpt:

None of the other 10 contenders for the Liberal leadership directly criticized Volpe. But several distanced themselves from the controversy, calling for an age limit on donors or vowing to never personally accept money from minors.

Privately, some rival camps were seething over the setback the controversy has dealt the party.

"I think Joe Volpe should get out of the race and do the Liberal party an enormous favour," said a top campaign strategist for one rival camp.

"This reflects on us all."

A spoof "Youth for Joe Volpe" website also popped up Wednesday. It includes testimonials from toddlers and a mock contribution form, which asks donors to indicate whether they're using "mommy's or daddy's credit card."

Volpe continued to maintain he did nothing illegal, that all his donations complied with the letter of the law, which does not impose an age limit on donors.

Nevertheless, he told CBC Newsworld he decided to reimburse five donors, all of them under the age of 18, because he wanted to demonstrate his campaign will also abide by "the spirit" of the law. Each of the youngsters had donated $5,400, the legal maximum.

However, Volpe does not intend to return another $81,000 in donations from 15 current and former executives at pharmaceutical giant Apotex Inc., their spouses and adult children. ...
http://www.paulding.net/bin/url.cgi/13301.7

*"The Fall of the House of Usher", Edgar Allan Poe.
* "The Picture of Dorian Gray", Oscar Wilde.

As much as I enjoyed the site, it was most likely suspended due to the fact the registration information was fictitious. That's a big no-no according to CIRA.

If old Mike Hunt had just put his real name, or a less juvenile alias, it may have stayed up a little longer. Needless to say, that's the fastest "suspension" I've ever seen of a .ca domain.

ET -- I just got new passports for myself and my family. No problem except the cost (for a family of 4). I have written my MP and asked if the passport office could do some sort of stream lining for people whose passports have expired, at a lower cost. Perhaps charge more initially for your first passport, and investigate the heck out of the person requesting it, but afterwards it should cost a heck of a lot less to get a new one. You should be on file. A cursory investigation, and boom, you have a new passport. Perhaps they could even find some of those thousands of people that have been ordered deported, that seem to have disappeared.
By the way, "genetically modified, environmentally friendly" sounds like an oxymoron to me.

Mary T: So I wasn't hearing things this morning, I thought I heard the bimbo say the same thing. PM Steven Martin, what a joke! Was this a " slip of the tongue????

Can anyone help with the protest of Monte Solbergs speech?
I have some questions:
Where was Mr. Solberg's protection? Arent Ministers of the crown accompanied by police protection?
Who were these protesters?
Am I correct that a minister of the crown, elected by the citizens of this country, was prevented from speaking by people who are in our country illegally?
I'm thinking this is a big deal.

Memo To: C$L SSMartin:

Harper: Free vote on same-sex unions this fall
MONTREAL (CP) - Prime Minister Stephen Harper said Friday a free vote on same-sex marriage will be held in the Commons this fall. cnews

Just listening on the Rutherford show, speaking to Bernard Turquotte, the president of CIRA. The registration info was, in fact, bogus and so the sight was suspended. The mailing address was for the Belleville town hall and the phone was a cell #. All other info was ficticious. It's to bad, it was the funniest spoof I've seen in a while. Whoever set up the site must have been afraid of a visit from a Librano hit man.

Oops, that should be "the SITE was suspended.
Incidently, Bernard says that no one with the Volpe campaign contacted them and the site was not shut down on that basis.

Re: Comrade Volpe

I bought www.youthforvolpe.com so if anyone wants to reconstruct the site (it is hosted in US) please drop me a line. I don't want any money, am happy to say to Mr. Volpe "Here we go again, Comrade Joe"

Andy

It's posted up here as well:

http://www.youthforvolpe.no-libs.com/youth.pdf

Too funny. And registered to "Mike Hunt"....the
icing on the cake.....

Michael Coren write a column about Israel and CUPE that'll make the Bob 9000 robot implode.

http://www.torontosun.com/News/Columnists/Coren_Michael/2006/06/02/1610864.html

morison - I think your idea of intensive investigation for first passport, and 'reasonable' for renewal of passports. And, lower the fees. I know that our taxes and fees are supporting a huge CUPE favoured realm of employees, but, we ought to receive more for our money that the knowledge that we are supporting others in a far better lifestyle than our own.

Don't know who the 'genetically modifed' phrase refers to.

As far as CIRA, I don't believe them. One article I read yesterday was a comment from the Volpe people that the site would be gone by 6 pm yesterday. Now, how did they know that if they didn't have a role in getting rid of it? Another was a comment piece today by Jane Taber about the site- and this has been removed from the web. It was up this morning and I can't find it.

And, if the only problem was a link, then, why isn't a site with the correct link up now?

Sorry, it's my paranoia or my experience of Libranos. I suggest that we plaster the pdf site everywhere and see what happens.

Librano Hitman or Lawyer?? (same thing I guess)
Want justice?? Call Judge Judy!!
on a lighter side Joe has sure been making the rounds "iknew nothing about it & they will get their hard earned savings back"
I wish he had advised that to his former boss for all the LEACHING the BLOODSUCKERS did to joe taxpayer over the past 13yrs., the plug.

Paul Martin is tabling a motion to make sure the Kelowna Accord is honoured:

The truth about the Kelowna Accord:

The aboriginal groups put together a 26 page wish list.

3 days before the election call in Kelowna Paul Martin scratched a figure of some 5 billion over 5 years on a piece of paper

NO province or group signed this piece of paper. NO funds were allocated in Liberal budgets. NO parliamentary approval was ever given .
NO plan or action plan or even a break down of how the funds would be allocated was ever done
As part of their re-election bid the Martinites then trumped up a news release crowing that they had a big deal called the kelowna Accord and they campaigned on it.

It was in fact A LIBERAL ELECTION PROMISE - not an agreement with the Government of Canada as they are now lying to the people and especially the Aboriginals.

So Paul Martin now wants the government to follow through on HIS little personal one page hand written promise to spend 5 billion dollars which had NO plan, NO money budgeted for, NO parliamentary approval and NO signatures from any of the stake holders.

WOW. Martin STILL counts on us ALL being stupid and the MEDIA being his accomplice in this scam.

Let us see which MEDIA stands up and calls this shyster on this mythical "Accord". The Conservatives asked for soem documentation on it and all the Liberals gave them was their own press release.

Aboriginals voted Liberal based on a sham, smoke and mirrors and empty promises. Time to end the circle of deceipt.

And, PS - it was sickening to hear Paul martin talk about the third world plight of our aboriginal people, their living conditions, suicide rates, etc. when HE himself was part of the government that shafted them!!!!!!

NOW I'm p-eeeeed off. I felt like slapping the TV when I heard him speak. AND the speech sure sounded a lot like the Beer and Popcorn Scott Reid empty platitudes to me. Can anyone find out if that weasel is STILL sucking off the public trough through Martin?

I found the article; it had been removed from the main page of the G&M website (possibly just for other news). It's by Jane Taber and specifically says that the Volpe team had the website shut down.

Her article is:
Campaign gets tangled in website spoof.

I don't know if I can get the full URL. Sorry.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060602.gtliberalsweb02/BNStory/Technology/

"Mr. Volpe's campaign had the site shut down without knowing, it seems, who put it up: "Hi Everyone," wrote Brenden Johnstone, who is with the Volpe campaign, in an e-mail to other leadership campaigns. "There has been concern about how the issue of the Volpe donations was reflecting on the leadership race.

"My Office has had the website suspended through CIRA [Canadian Internet Registration Authority] and CDNS [Canadian Domain Name Services] and it will be down as soon as 6 p.m. I think the issue with the website has been dealt with. . . ."

Now, that says pretty clearly, from a member of Volpe's team that 'MY OFFICE has had the website suspended'.

So, CIRA is lying; it wasn't just shut down because of regulations; it was shut down because Joe Volpe's office specifically intervened and had them shut it down.

www.youthforvolpe.com

This page is parked free, courtesy of GoDaddy.com

I'll try to post this again without the URL that blocked it.

Jane Taber wrote an article in the G&M that specifically says that the Volpe team shut down the website. Here's the quote from her article:

"Mr. Volpe's campaign had the site shut down without knowing, it seems, who put it up: "Hi Everyone," wrote Brenden Johnstone, who is with the Volpe campaign, in an e-mail to other leadership campaigns. "There has been concern about how the issue of the Volpe donations was reflecting on the leadership race.

"My Office has had the website suspended through CIRA [Canadian Internet Registration Authority] and CDNS [Canadian Domain Name Services] and it will be down as soon as 6 p.m. I think the issue with the website has been dealt with. . . ."

There. Brendan Johnstone, a member of Volpe's team, specifically informs everyone that the Volpe team had the site shut down.

CIRA is lying; they didn't shut down the site on a technicality. They shut it down because Volpe's office asked them to do so.

Check out the article in the G&M today, by Jane Taber. Title is 'Campaign gets tangled in website spoof'.

Hope this gets by kate's filter.

If anyone bothers to do a whois on the domain name, they will note that there appear to be false information associated with it's original registration.

It is not only CIRA that will respond to complaints regarding falsely registered domains, but so will INTERNIC. In fact, even .com domains have been suspended because the registrant information provided was false.

This is not a defence of Joe Volpe - and I have to wonder about the speed in which the domain name was suspended, but certainly it is NOT uncommom to have domain names suspended ANYWHERE in the world where false information is provided.

If you read any agreement, including CIRA's nutty and crazy reams and reams of crap you have to agree to when registering a domain, there is a section about providing false information regarding the registrant, or incorrect information, or even not keeping the registrant information, including phone number and postal address updated when it changes.

So, take a pill and relax a bit.

I'll see how much of Jane Taber's article I can post. I don't have maz2's skills!!

Campaign gets tangled in website spoof
JANE TABER

Globe and Mail Update

It was all the buzz in official Ottawa yesterday -- a hilarious political whodunit in this age of websites, platforms and templates.

Overnight, someone built a website spoofing Liberal leadership candidate Joe Volpe and his acceptance of thousands of dollars in campaign donations from children, including the 11-year-old twins of a former vice-president of a generic drug company.

By early yesterday afternoon, the Volpe team had the website pulled down.

It was called youthforvolpe.ca and asked children to donate $5,400 and indicate whether the credit card being used is "mommy's or daddy's. . . ."

It also included testimonials, and under the heading, "How can you help," it said: "Want to support Joe, but don't know if you can? Talk to your parents, you might have already done your part."

Early yesterday, the website address was flying into the inboxes of politicians, political staffers, journalists and even the strategists from other leadership campaigns.

Mr. Volpe's campaign had the site shut down without knowing, it seems, who put it up: "Hi Everyone," wrote Brenden Johnstone, who is with the Volpe campaign, in an e-mail to other leadership campaigns. "There has been concern about how the issue of the Volpe donations was reflecting on the leadership race.

"My Office has had the website suspended through CIRA [Canadian Internet Registration Authority] and CDNS [Canadian Domain Name Services] and it will be down as soon as 6 p.m. I think the issue with the website has been dealt with. . . ."

At one point, the Michael Ignatieff campaign's Quebec youth director, Marc-André Gendron, was suspected because the website was similar to other political sites he had created. Mr. Gendron denied any involvement, pointing out that one of the testimonials was from two children named Chris and Toby Aggarwal. As it turns out, Sachin Aggarwal is the Ignatieff campaign's director of operations.

". . . It strikes me as an effort to frame us," a senior Ignatieff strategist said.

New Kid,
“It's the thought that counts, right?”

Good intentions that remain un-fulfilled reminded me of my time in Arabia. When an Arab commits to doing something, they consider half the is job done.

Me: Hello may I please speak to Mr. Mr. Aziz?
AZIZ, AZIZ
Me: Mr. Aziz you said that it would take one week to repair my clothes washer.
Mr. Aziz: Yes of course
Me: That was 3 weeks ago.
Mr. Aziz: Yes
Me: Last week you said it be repaired and returned by yesterday at the latest.
Mr. Aziz: Yes of course
Me: But you didn’t return it yesterday!
Mr. Aziz: Yes
Me: But you promised.
Mr. Aziz: Yes
Me: When will you return it?
Mr.Aziz: Tomorrow
Me: Do you promise?
Mr. Aziz: Yes of course
Me: Thank you
Mr. Aziz: You are most welcome Mr. Cal!

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No, Ian, you are missing the point.

The point is the right of freedom of speech that was suspended by request of Volpe's office. The fact that the name was fake is the 'de facto' reason but the deeper reason was the content of the site.

You know this and yet are focusing on the superficiality of the name. That's like Volpe telling us that the children were so impressed with hearing him that they asked their parents how they could help his cause. Sure.

The real problem is that Volpe wanted the site shut down. The technicality of achieving this isn't the point. The point is his rejection of our freedom of speech. And that's something to be very upset about, even if it bores you to death.

ET, you are wrong. This has NOTHING to do with freedom of speech. Whoever set up the website is free to post their content anywhere they like, that will accept their content - but they must follow rules like ANY contract if they want to register a domain name.

You don't seem to understand that when you register a domain name, you enter a CONTRACT, which you negate when you provide false information.

Thanks for that ET, while Turquotte's explanation sounded reasonable, he led off the interview with Rutherford with a short "no" when asked if the Volpe team contacted them. But when Dave asked the question a few times later in the interview, he used the same phrase over and over. It seemed like he was trying to answer the question without lying but not revealing the truth (I can't remember the exact words, but since he repeated the same thing, it was obviously a talking point that he was told to get out there) I'll see if it is archived and try to get the link.

You may also recall a kerfuffle regarding the Sinclair Stevens website re, the Stop Harper campaign.

Folks tried to have that website shutdown based on the VERY same reasoning - that it was falsely registered.

Now, in that case, the registrar was ABLE to contact good ol' Sinc, and made the changes to the registrant information.

In this case, because the registrant information is so blatantly false, CIRA likely could not get in touch with the registrant.

I wonder, ET, if you would be defending Sinc Stevens, when Kate and I were both working on that issue, and were both involved in some work regarding the Stop Harper site. Hmmm? Think we were trying to prevent free speech??

Lee, I don't think that the protesters were in the country illegally. One of them, a young man from Montreal, is a Canadian activist, who went to the very best schools etc, and defines himself as an anarchist, etc.

They were protesting deportation of illegal immigrants. I'm sure you know the type of protestor - the 'hug-a-thug' mentality, that suggests that all people who do anything illegal do so only because the government is Evil. So, entering the country illegally means that the individual is a Good Person and the government is Evil, in trying to deport them.

Lorraine, many many thanks for the information about Kelowna. As you point out, a bag of empty vacuity, but, it can and will be used for emotional attacks by the Liberals and NDP against Harper.

I'm curious to see how shamelessly the Libranos will now paint themselves as the party of "Canadian Values" -- using children as mules for financial end runs around the election laws, moving ruthlessly to intimidate and suppress fair comment -- and this not from the rank and file, but from a leadership contender for their party. Watch for the brown shirts and the broken glass!

ET: Just in the interest of accuracy, Passport Office employees, since they are federal, would be members of PSAC (Public Service Alliance of Canada--a stupid union like CUPE) or PIPS (Professional Institute of the Public Service--a pretty intelligent union: computer types, engineers etc.).

Mark
Ottawa

Lorriane: I had Paulie on too. Get a big bag of spounges to throw at the TV! Notice that he only crawls out of his hole on First Nations issues??? This just makes me sick. It seems that it doesn't matter to him that he was voted out! I think he owes to many "favours" to a lot of Indian Chief's for their years of loyality to the Lier's Club, to have the Kelowna deal ripped up.

georgev--Turcotte stated that 'they have records of calls--AND NO ONE REMEMBERS VOLPE'S OFFICE CONTACTING THEM! If you have records you check them--if you don't you go on memory--either the records are faulty or their memories are!
I liked the caller at the end of the segment that called in and told Turcotte in less than a minute how to find out whose site it was! Turcotte is supposed to be knowlegable in this field? Wonder if he can trace kids that are downloading music?

Thanks Mark, for the update on CUPE/PSAC. As you note, my comment was about their union-membership and I am very opposed to unions in our modern era.

Ian Scott, freedom of speech is a charter right, for a reason. You don't, ethically, shut it down. The fact that you yourself shut down a domain, using a technicality as the reason, when the real reason was the fact that you didn't like what the content (a load of spam?????) - is your problem.

Again, Volpe's staff member, Brenden Johnstone, specifically informed people by email that 'my office has had the website suspended'. That's a violation of freedom of speech. The fact that it was able to do so on a technicality is irrelevant.

Now, if the site were slanderous, which doesn't mean critical opinions but if it was filled with actual lies about your factual reality, then, you can counter the website for the legality of its content. If it stated that you had sold your children into slavery; that you had laundered all your income, that you were a gun runner etc etc; that's libel.

But, if the website is a satirical critique of you, using all kinds of hyperbole, metaphor, analogy etc, then, tough. That's the opinion of the writer and it's their right to have that opinion. If the website called you a smug idiot writer, teacher, employer, etc, tough. That's free speech. If the website was an attempt to stop your political campaign, and was filled with hostile opinions and discussion - tough, that's free speech.

The report referring to PM Steven Martin was rebroadcast, and I tried to see if it was repeated, but the phone rang, along with the doorbell so missed it. It will probably be on again, unless cbc has caught the slip of the tongue. Re Volpe, who was it on Hogan's Heroes that always said "I know nothing". Congratulations to the Tofield AB girl for placing 2nd in the Scripps Spelling Bee in Washington. Kelowna Accord another liberal scam, along with child-care. Lots of words but no documentation, motions, budget allotments, and still the aboriginals and toronto voted for liberals. Cdns will (or should) be more aware of so called promises and demand to see proof during next election. When looking at all the leadership candidates just think of them as possible cabinet ministers if libs ever get back in. Boycott Apotec drugs and products. OT. It took the liberals 13 yrs to keep promises unfulfilled, the WTC site has not been rebuilt, and no one can agree on what should be built, but the leftists and media in Canada and the US are upset that Iraq and Afganistan have not been rebuilt and stabilized in 3 yrs.

Free speech has NOTHING to do with not fulfilling a contract, E.

Title of the Martin story in G&M=and miles to go before he sleeps= Did they credit where this line comes from, did they plagarize a poem, are there readers out there that think the person writing that column or the editors actually thought that up themselves. Yes, martin will go miles before he sleeps, on money he should be paying in cdn taxes.

Thanks, GEORGE, I had a momentary brain cramp and couldn't remeber the words, but remembered that there was an evasion.

First, Ian, I didn't give you any permission to use my personal rather than blog name. In my view, that is discourteous on your part. I'd appreciate it if you stuck to my blog name (my initials).

Now, back to Volpe. His people shut down the blog. The 'fact' that it exists 'somewhere' is irrelevant. Volpe's team wanted the site shut down; they admit they contacted CIRA and CDNS for that particular purpose - to 'suspend the website'. Now, the excuse that they used, a registration listing, is superficial and I find your focus on that, while ignoring the deeper issue of free speech, disturbing.

As was pointed out, the owner could have been contacted; a caller informed Turcotte how to do this (as if he didn't know????!!).

Of course, I accept your point about false versus valid registration of a domain name! But, that's not the issue. Volpe's people weren't interested in the site's false/valid registration. The didn't give a damn about that. They were interested in shutting it down because of its CONTENT. That is, they were stopping free speech. That remains the focus - a political team that is attempting to stop free speech.

ET, I'm simply using my freedom of speech in using your name. "Discourteous" is your projection upon my use of your name, and I don't really care about your "feelings" or "projections." What was it that you said about your students? I'll have to go look up that quote.

Secondly, it has become obvious that you still don't have a clue about freedom of speech, the Internet and domain name registrations, or contract law.

Tell you what E, if you are so passionate about "free speech" on the Internet, come pay my fibre bill, which runs at almost 1.5 grand a month.

If I don't pay my bills (thereby negating my contract), I get caught off.

Freedom of speech has nothing to do with what you are trying to suggest. If you truly believe it does, then why don't you criticize both myself and Kate McMillan for our efforts regarding the block harper domain, sometime ago?

"As was pointed out, the owner could have been contacted; a caller informed Turcotte how to do this (as if he didn't know????!!)."

And how do you know this was not attempted? If the "owner" provided false information, then how could they contact the owner?

I don't know.. but I would say it is probable that an attempt at contact WAS made - but when the registrant failed to update the whois information, it was suspended.

We don't know ALL the details, E.

Ian Scott - no, using my personal name is not a right of freedom of speech. It has nothing to do with freedom of speech and it is silly of you to try to correlate the two. It's just discourteous boorishness on your part. I know the names of various people who post on this site, but I would never, ever, use their non-blog names.

Freedom of speech means, not that you can say anything that pops into your head, but that you can say anything within the context of an openness of that speech to debate. So, if I stand up and preach hate dogma, that is not free speech, because the content is not open to debate. It's authoritarian law. And, the old standard, if I yell 'fire' in a theatre, when there is no fire, that is not free speech.

Therefore, as well, your use of my personal name has zilch to do with free speech and everything to do with boorish discourtesy. If you continue to do so, I'll simply ignore you; that's my right.

What you continue to ignore, in your focus on the 'false/valid registration' is the fact that Volpe's people contacted CIRA and CDNS to suspend the website. I've provided the quoted email from Brenden Johnstone. Their interest was not on the technicality but on the content.

E, just to let you know... here is the whois information for the domain name:

Admin-Name: Mr Mike Hunt
Admin-Title:
Admin-Postal: 868 Main Street
Belleville ON K8N2Y8 Canada
Admin-Phone: 905-338-4949
Admin-Fax:
Admin-Mailbox: youthforvolpe@hotmail.com

I just called the phone no. It's not in service.

Funny that it would be a 905 number for a Belleville address.. now, let us go check out 868 Main Street in Bellville.. let's see what we find there.

I've also sent an email to the email address. I'll let you know if I get a response :)

Not conservative: "Kill them Islamofascists!"

Conservative:

"The National Post of Tuesday May 30 reported that a study of Ontario students showed that male students felt as much discriminated against as females."

tim.blogware.com/

"It is an uncomfortable conclusion from happiness research data perhaps - but multicultural communities tend to be less trusting and less happy.

Research by the Home Office suggests that the more ethnically diverse an area is, the less people are likely to trust each other.

The Commission for Racial Equality has also done work looking at the effect of diversity on well-being.

Interviewed on The Happiness Formula, the chair of the Commission for Racial Equality, Trevor Phillips accepts that people are happier if they are with people like themselves."

news.bbc.co.uk/

Good article on how baby seats - now mandatory in Ontario for children 8 and under - may not actually make children 4 to 8 any safer:

www.freakonomics.com/times0710.php

E, you don't understand freedom of speech. Whether or not you think me "boorish" for using your full name is your opinion. Now, Kate of course can ban me or do whatever with my comments on her website - but I can also post on my own blog, and address you however I like. Boorishness and freedom of speech are not related.

ET--you are absolutely right. They can use all the liberal spin they want to but the fact remains that this was a precedent setting strike against free speech. They snow us with bafflegab until our head spins--but the core message from the Liberals is--shut up, we will control what you see and hear--soon to be joined by what we think!
There are always those who will defend the indefensible--thank God there are still people like you who will not be deterred

Silence of a Website: A website died. Killed by Librano$ in Canada.

Silence: "how social power dynamics, in a highly gendered form, are played out to induce silence."

....

Bangladesh: Sexual Harassment and the Public Woman
Himal magazine ^ | May 2002 | Dina M Siddiqi

Excerpt:

Voices from the grave It is paradoxical but perhaps not surprising that the voices of the powerless are heard more clearly after their deaths. Death offers a different kind of safety, cruelly enough. To take an example from India, the suicide of High Court Advocate Sangeeta Sharma in Andhra Pradesh, India, on 15 June 2000, due to alleged sexual harassment by fellow lawyers, is illustrative. It indicates that the problem is not one of powerlessness in a straightforward manner. The Sharma case provides a critical reminder of how social power dynamics, in a highly gendered form, are played out to induce silence. Sharma sought legal assistance from a women’s group but refused to divulge in public the names of those harassing her, fearful of any reprisals on her and her young child. Unable to alter the situation of harassment she faced, Sharma ultimately committed suicide. She did, however, leave behind evidence of grave misconduct on the part of fellow lawyers and senior advocates. As with Simi, the victim of harassment felt protection and justice could only be attained in death. ...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1642423/posts

ET:
I agreee with you. The issue is the intent, not the result.
Even if the Volpe people had been unsuccessful in their attempt to have the site shut down, the fact that they tried speaks volumes.

Dedicated to Dbak Volpe.

..........

Russia: 'Phallic' Case Threatens Internet Freedom
Radio Free Europe Radio Liberty | June 2, 2006 | Brian Whitmore

Posted on 06/02/2006 11:19:10 AM PDT by sergey1973

When Russian prosecutors opened a criminal case against journalist Vladimir Rakhmanov for writing a satirical Internet article calling President Vladimir Putin the nation's "phallic symbol," it raised eyebrows. But a case that began as an odd curiosity in Russia's Ivanovo Oblast is quickly becoming an international cause. Reporters Without Borders has taken up Rakhmankov's case as part of what it calls a campaign to preserve Internet press freedom in Russia and elsewhere in the former Soviet Union. With print and broadcast journalism already subject to heavy-handed state control, free-press advocates are increasingly looking to save the Internet as the region's last censorship-free zone.

PRAGUE, June 2, 2006 (RFE/RL) -- Rakhmankov's article comparing Putin to a phallic symbol wasn't the first time the online journalist has irritated the authorities.

In March, he accused Ivanovo Governor Mikhail Men of taking bribes. In an interview with RFE/RL's Russian Service, Rakhmankov ...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1642408/posts

Ian - The fact that you have a website and use my personal name there, without my permission, is irrelevant. I'm hardly interested in your website.

That's exactly what I said - boorishness and freedom of speech are not related.

The fact that you do something personal to someone, when another person asks you not to do so- and you justify it by saying 'I'll do whatever I want', even though that action includes another person, remains as I described it - boorish discourtesy.

Goodbye.

Re passports -- While getting passports for my family, I noticed the employee we got was very quick and efficient and was processing roughly twice what her cohort beside her was doing. I asked her if she got more money to do more work, and she said no. I told her she should.

I didn't say "I'll do whatever I want." Your projections on what folks write is hillarious.

Just as you suggest that in the quotes you provide earlier that it says anthing about concern for content. Please point to the quote where it says "concern for content." There are two different sentences quoted - only your projections in your mind is there a definite factual link. The person writing the email may even not realize the difference between a "website" and a "domain name," which in fact, are not the same thing.

I am no Joe Volpe supporter or a Liberal - those of you like George who wish to take what I've written and project upon my words - instead of the actual facts of this matter - well - so be it. This is NOT a freedom of speech matter, no matter what "spin" YOU want to put on it.

The future of blogging? Educated guesses at what the end of the road may look like? Wannabe hill protesters against suppression of 'freedom of speech' The silence of the blogosphere is deafening and actually nobody's listening in the actual deal-cutting arenas. We're into exporting our democratic wish list to Afghanistan only they really don't want it. They're into obeying Allah to the letter of the law. Our lax laws are now entrenched isn't that obvious. You think the profiteers are going to let the blogosphere stand in their way. Not a chance of a snowball....

"I think the issue with the website has been dealt with. . . .”

The diktat from the Volpe/Librano$.

...

Canadian Liberal Candidate Strongarms the Internet

Stephen Taylor has an almost unbelievable story of censorship and abuse of power in Canada, where Joe Volpe, candidate for leadership of the Liberal party (and eventual candidate for Prime Minister), apparently called his cronies at the Canadian Registrar Authority and had them delete the domain name of a parody web site: Joe Volpe strongarms the Internet and erodes freedom of speech in Canada.

The Globe and Mail reports:

Mr. Volpe’s campaign had the site shut down without knowing, it seems, who put it up: “Hi Everyone,” wrote Brenden Johnstone, who is with the Volpe campaign, in an e-mail to other leadership campaigns. “There has been concern about how the issue of the Volpe donations was reflecting on the leadership race.”

“My Office has had the website suspended through CIRA [Canadian Internet Registration Authority] and CDNS [Canadian Domain Name Services] and it will be down as soon as 6 p.m. I think the issue with the website has been dealt with. . . .”

UPDATE at 6/2/06 12:27:07 pm:

A reader emails to say he contacted the Canadian Domain Name Service, and the site’s domain was deleted because false information was used on the registration. (But they certainly acted quickly.)
LGF

Ian--read the words of Jant Taber in the G&M this morning--a rabid Liberal supporter--it is she that said Volpe's office got the site shut down! Her report--"It was all the buzz in official Ottawa yesterday -- a hilarious political whodunit in this age of websites, platforms and templates.

Overnight, someone built a website spoofing Liberal leadership candidate Joe Volpe and his acceptance of thousands of dollars in campaign donations from children, including the 11-year-old twins of a former vice-president of a generic drug company.

By early yesterday afternoon, the Volpe team had the website pulled down.
Her exact report of Johnstone-- "Mr. Volpe's campaign had the site shut down without knowing, it seems, who put it up: "Hi Everyone," wrote Brenden Johnstone, who is with the Volpe campaign, in an e-mail to other leadership campaigns. "There has been concern about how the issue of the Volpe donations was reflecting on the leadership race.

"My Office has had the website suspended through CIRA [Canadian Internet Registration Authority] and CDNS [Canadian Domain Name Services] and it will be down as soon as 6 p.m. I think the issue with the website has been dealt with. . . ."
She probably wrote this before the 'official spin' was concocted--but it doesn't change my original statement--they ban baffle us with techincal BS, but the fact remains they struck a blow against free speech in Canada!

"A reader emails to say he contacted the Canadian Domain Name Service, and the site’s domain was deleted because false information was used on the registration. (But they certainly acted quickly.)"

What does "quickly" mean? I can attest to having a domain name SUSPENDED - not deleted within 48 hours of my complaint to INTERNIC. The domain name that has been referred to in this thread has NOT been deleted - if the registrant agrees to provide factual information that is required when they entered a contract with CIRA, the domain name would no longer be "suspended."

Like you, ET, I know the names of some of the posters to this blog and it would never occur to me to use anything but their blogging name in a post.

I guess there's bloggers' etiquette and then there's the pig pen. Oinc stat.

Seems Mapquest can't find an "898 Main St" in Belleville.

maz2 - many thanks for the link to Stephen Taylor. He's written a great analysis of Volpe's censorship and attack on freedom of speech. He writes:

"This is absurd, censorship and an abuse of power. As a citizen, regardless of your political affiliation, and as a Internet consumer, this should outrage you. The Internet is for free speech, and this fundamental freedom is really only labeled as such because it is one of those elements of our liberty that had to be protected from tyrants with power. If one cannot lampoon a political candidate (the archetype of free speech in a free society) then we aren't truly free. What is perhaps most chilling is that this censorship has come from a candidate for the Prime Ministership."

And, he notes,
"The deletion of the domain name was in full compliance of rules of the CIRA (just because it's a rule, doesn't make it right). Supposedly, if one registers a .ca domain name with anonymous details, the domain name can be removed under the CIRA's rules. However, one first needs to point it out (as Joe Volpe's campaign did)."

Taylor also notes that the donations from the children was in 'full compliance' with the rules, but that didn't make it right. Equally, Volpe's cutting out this site was in 'full compliance with the rules' but that also isn't right. It's a violation of free speech.

"Like you, ET, I know the names of some of the posters to this blog and it would never occur to me to use anything but their blogging name in a post."

What "occurs" in someone's mind is a sign of their ability to think. Those who have less "occurences" in their mind are likely less able to think for themselves.

"The Internet is for free speech,.."

Stephen Taylor doesn't know what he is talking about. He is confusing free speech with contract.

First, the Internet is not even "free." There is a cost to it. Secondly, when you pay the "fee," whether it is to a hosting provider, an ISP, or a registrar of domain names, you are entering a contract.

The site developers that registered the domain "youthforvolpe.ca" entered a contract with CIRA.

Simply because they did not comply with the contract and their domain name was suspended, has not eroded their free speech. In fact, as we can apparently see, they have now put up their content somewhere else, where they are not under whatever agreement or contract for use of service at their new location.

Sorry... "where they are not under whatever agreement or contract for use of service at their new location."

should read:

""where they are not under whatever agreement or contract for use of service at their new location the same as they were under contract with CIRA for the domain name they falsely procured."

Here's the new url for the volpe site. Hope it gets through Kate's filter. And, let's hope that Volpe remembers the values of freedom of speech.

http://www.youthforvolpe.no-libs.com/

It's a bit fuzzy but it's a reasonable copy of the original.
Found it on Stephen Taylor's blog.

Ian, your getting repetetive. Think of something new to say, please, im sure your just wasting Kates bandwidth

Lee, Hopefully Kate will appreciate some of the assertions that have been made in this thread, are corrected.

Lee, Hopefully Kate will appreciate some of the assertions that have been made in this thread, are corrected.

Stephen Taylor has a new update, which he says he received from 'the kids of youthforvolpe at hotmail from CADNS.

The email sent to them about the domain registration says nothing about the correctness of the registration but about CADNS's concerns about the site exposing CIRA to legal action via actions of defamation.

Did Volpe's Brenden Johnstone contact CIRA and CDNS to inform them that the site wasn't registered properly? I doubt it. He contacted them to inform them that they might be liable to a lawsuit.

We are back to an infringement on freedom of speech. Is our internet in Canada actually saying that you cannot lampoon a political character or anyone, because to do so is readily construed as 'defamation'? That simply doesn't make sense. The thousands of political cartoonists on the editorial pages would be out of a job. Our CBC shows (Air Farce) would be gone.

After all, 'defaming' is a very subjective term. Doesn't calling Stephen Harper a 'control freak' act to defame him? It's been on TV and the internet.

Mr. "Mike Hunt" has given his blessing and his material is now posted at www.youthforvolpe.no-libs.com

My hope in all this is that it doesn't do irreparable damage to Volpe's run as the Lib leader. I personally think he espouses all the best qualities of the Liberal party, and he would make a great opposition leader, at least from a conservatives viewpoint.(sarc off)

Wow. What a crazy, crazy thing for conservatives to fight amongst themselves about.

Free Speech protects your right to say things such as this, and when Mike Hunt from Barrie steps up and says "hey, you can't suppress me", then we should all rally around him. Until then, you cannot fault a company for following the rules, especially since it is answerable to another company, and if it fails to follow the rules, can be shut down in no time. It doesn't matter if you feel it is WRONG, it is the RULES.

But, on the positive side, because the original creator wants to remain anonymous (apparantly), he will also not be sending any copyright cease and desists notices to sites that mirror the satire. As long as those are properly registered, then Volpe will be completely unable to shut those down as the technicality will not apply, leaving free speech triumphant.

Just remember, whether you are mad at Volpe for taking the donations, for saying they were legal (when they might not be), for saying they were fine then giving the money back, for trying to suppress free speech, for getting the link suspended on the technicalities, for the things he did while he was in government, for just being a "nothing has changed" arrogant liberal, or for just being a liberal, remember, the only real bad guy here is Volpe (well, and his associates, but they're like Dr. Evil's henchmen, you just sort of lump them together).

Heck, even some card carrying liberals are saying what he did is ETHICALLY wrong, which is the bottom line, and it is nice to see that his wrongness is not solely a partisan issue.

"the site exposing CIRA to legal action via actions of defamation."

This of course, is quite possible. If there IS defamation (and as you point out, this is subjective and mostly based on opinion), and CIRA has not collected the correct contact information as required, then Volpe would have every right to launch a defamation suit against CIRA.

Whether he'd win of course, is another matter. But if CIRA cannot provide the information as to who owns the site through their own contractual obligations in regard to registering domain names, then this _might_ leave them open to a civil suit.

We're still back to who is responsible for the expression (or speech, if you will) while using a domain name under contract.

Now that the site has been moved, Richard Evans might be subject to a civil suit should Volpe choose to go that route. I for one would support Evans fully in defending such a suit, should that occur.

But until such a suit is ever launched, one can come up with all the motivations they want - the FACT of the matter is the domain name was originally illegally registered.

Richard Evans could find 'Mike Hunt' but the combined power of the Liberals and the CIRA couldn't?

Maybe Richard Evans has also used the name "Mike Hunt." Know knows? Perhaps they are acquaintances? All sorts of things we could conjecture - it takes nothing away from the reality of the illegally registered domain which has not been updated with correct information.

free speach, contracts etc . . all sidebars

the messgae is Joe Volpe digs his own hole, faster & deeper and drags the LPC back into the spotlight as gready scamming bastards who split legal hairs but have no morals or ethics.

Couldn't happen to nicer people.

All it took to find "Mike Hunt" was an e-mail sent to the addy provided in WHOIS. Mike graciously responded to my request to mirror his material and should it be required, I have the e-mails to back that claim up. However I don't think it'll be required...

lol On a more interesting note, since I've set-up the mirror, the DOJ decided to stop by for a visit...

http://www.sitemeter.com/?a=stats&s=s24nolibs&v=26&r=9&vlr=8&pg=41&d=62

How special!

ET, I agree with you and generally find ian scott an internet boor. He probably spent many early years USING ALL CAPS. We sign our e-mail and comments with the moniker we want to be addressed by. For him to do otherwise is simply bad manners and his refusal to see that point simply reflects his immaturity. To whine on about domains vs websites, or suspended vs shutdown proves nothing except maybe to him.

Letter of the law and spirit of the law are the real issues. Pizza Joe did not infact do anything "technically" wrong by taking those kid's piggy banks but we all realize that it was an underhanded way to bypass the spirit of the law.

Texas Canuck, thanks for another lesson in ad hominem. Of course, for some, facts don't matter in their fantastical projections and fantasies.

I personally find it mannerly to address people by their real name. I was taught that it was respectful to do so. I never was much into nicknames. Makes me a "boor?" Oh well.

If you were taught to be respectful then explain how looking up personal information on a person when they would prefer not to use it is respectful? Not respecting an individual's wishes and using it because you know it bothers that person is NOT the actions of a gentleman or even a civil human being if you wish to get PC. I stand by my assessment: you are an internet boor.

"If you were taught to be respectful then explain how looking up personal information on a person when they would prefer not to use it is respectful?"

And how do you KNOW I did this? In fact, I did not EVER look it up. The person in question confirmed it on another blog that I happened to be reading.

A gentleman, in my opinion, does not resort to fallacious ad hominem to respond in a debate, whilst ignoring the facts.

But that is just my opinion of what a "gentleman" is. Perhaps your definition of "gentleman" doesn't include restricting fallacious ad hominem in a debate.

Your "He probably spent many early years USING ALL CAPS" is stupid and of course, your projections. The fact is, I did not spend "many early years" doing what you asserted.

I assert that in your early years, you suckled your mama's breast or drank from a bottle. So what? What does it have to do with the issue of fact and requirements of domain registrars?

What was that lieberal/leftie mantra again? Oh yeah, deny, deflect and defend to the death. The truth is out there, they just don't see it.

Mike F., you asked:

"Perhaps everybody should contact CIRA... and ask if this is their standard operating policy."

CIRA has a very clear policy (as do all web registrars) that you cannot register a website without real and correct personal information: In other words, that they will cancel your web registration if you use a fake name.

There are many reasons for this, some of them even good ones.

So that may be why CIRA was persuaded (that and an oodle of Liberal connections) to pull it down.

It is likely that Volpe would have a much harder time pulling down the:

http://policycanada.blogspot.com

site because the Blogger is posting under his own name and isn't violating any laws or Blogger Terms of Service that I'm aware of.

It appears to me very unlikely that the creator of this content, "Mike Hunt", would object to this being reposted. There is no affirmative copyright statement on the PDF and I believe that the creator intended it to be in the "public domain".

However, I am not a lawyer and I strongly advice you NOT to visit:

http://policycanada.blogspot.com

except to complain to the Blogger and warn him that he shouldn't post that hilariously funny youthforvolpe.ca spoof until all copyright, third-party copyright, and any other legal issues are settled.

Finally, I read that another courageous Blogger, Richard, plans to host this controversial youthforvolpe.ca website website (not as a PDF, but as actual working website) on an American web server under his own name registered with a ".com" address.

He intends to use this domain name:

http://www.youthforvolpe.no-libs.com/

I caution you against visiting there for the reasons given above. I draw your attention to this URL because, as a website registrant myself who has three .com names hosted (click on my name link to visit one), I'm curious about free speech issues regarding the Internet and I consider this a lively discussion!

I've heard that Richard may be the infamous "Mike Hunt" who, naughty boy, may have provided incorrect info to CIRA, which resulted in his youthforvolpe.ca website quite rightly being removed. However, I am in no way alleging this so please do not sue me, Richard.

Thanks.


FINAL WARNING: All web addresses in bold type should not be visited in order to potentially protect other people's copyrights and other valid legal interests. They are given for the purpose of advancing the discussion regarding freedom of speech and Internet domain name registration — and because they are already in the public domain. The only other reason the website addresses are given is so you can do a "Blogger profile" or "whois" search and complain to the website owners directly if you believe that their behaviour is wrong.

Forgive me if you get a double post, Kate. Allow which ever of the two you prefer. I was trying to get a longish comment with hyperlinks through your spam filter to contribute to the Internet free speech discussion.

By the way, there's another issue which the Volpe campaign is bringing to light - and that is Chretien's legacy. Chretien certainly enriched his political campaigns using donations from corporations..as well as money laundering taxpayer money.
But, his legacy to political campaigns in Canada was the law which he put forth, which is that no corporation can donate to a political campaign; that it is only individuals, and only to a maximum of $5,400 per individual.

This sets up an extremely difficult framework. It costs at least a million to run an effective campaign; you need a staff, you need transportation, you need to pay for media ads, brochures, etc, etc. It's a lot of money. How do you raise that money?

We see the results. The Liberal hopefuls are declaring large loans from family members or friends. We know that these loans are in effect 'donations' above the $5,400 limit.
We see the actual donations split up into the $5,400 limit when the sum, in total, comes from one source and probably, from a company.

Is this system workable? Chretien, of course, wanted to 'screw the rest'. His extreme narcissitic personality meant that he wasn't interested in a Liberal eternity in Canada; for instance, he certainly didn't want Martin to win. And he isn't interested in any other Liberals winning. He is interested in HIS identity, as winning three majorities'. The fact that he was able to do so only by election-timing manipulation, by manipulation of the MSM, by money laundering - that, for Chretien, is irrelevant. The narcissistic goal, is the result for him. The personal win.

I wonder if the rules are unworkable. I'm ignoring Volpe at the moment, for, I suspect that other candidates are finding the rules equally unworkable.

I guess things like right to privacy and free speech only count if your a liberano, everyone else, do as I say not as I do.

And ian you appear to me to be a full fledge member of the liberano crime family, split hairs about bullshit instead of admitting the criminal mindset of the politicos involved.

Mob rule on China's Internet: The keyboard as weapon

"Alien54 writes to mention an International Herald Tribune article about the growing phenomenon in China known as internet hunting; Using the web to track down individuals who have violated social more or broken the law. From the article: "In recent cases, people have scrutinized husbands suspected of cheating on their wives, fraud on Internet auction sites, the secret lives of celebrities and unsolved crimes. One case that drew a huge following involved the poisoning of a Tsinghua University student - an event that dates to 1994, but was revived by curious strangers after word spread on the Internet that the only suspect in the case had been questioned and released. Even a recent scandal involving a top Chinese computer scientist dismissed for copying an American processor design came to light in part because of Internet hunting, with scores of online commentators raising questions about the project and putting pressure on the scientist's sponsors to look into allegations about intellectual property theft."

yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/06/01/2051201

Nope, I didn't use the name "Mike Hunt" at all in publishing the site. And, no, I'm not worried about my site being taken down due to inaccurate info. It's all as it should be. Further still, I'm not worried about defamation, liable or slander suits because the material presented clearly falls within the realm of satire.

Bull from Angus: NDP/Liberals are one and the same: socialists.

Joe Volpe meet your buddy, pal, amigo, ami, comrade, ...

His Excellency Robert G. Mugabe (The President). Official Home Page ... the honest and hard-working citizens of Zimbabwe, a little more of Mugabe - The Man. ..

NDP makes mock plea to save kids' piggybanks from Liberals
Canada.com - 59 minutes ago
OTTAWA (CP) - A New Democrat MP is making a light-hearted plea to save kids' piggybanks from Liberal leadership candidates. Charlie Angus, with tongue planted firmly in cheek, is calling on the federal government ... google news

Joe, pls.do not take this seriously. Go to this site, and relax. Yer being too hard on yerself. Getta a gagggle of Librano$ in and order some pizzas from Judy Belinda; stiipers, too. Enjoy la dolce vita, Giuseppe. Remember: ars shorta; pizza longa.

Laugh more, Giuseppe. Ciao. ...

Go here, Joe....

Web Showing web page information for paulmartintime.ca

PaulMartinTime .ca: a public resource on Canada's Prime Minister
A satirical site that spoofs Paul Martin's official site.
paulmartintime.ca/

Okay boys and girls, the new word of the day is "ad hominem". Let's see how many times we can use it in our comments.

More interesting info on Stephen Taylor's blog. It seems the reason for the suspension, according to an e-mail sent by registrar@cadns.ca was that the registry was afraid of lawsuits. Article 3.1
Paragraph (h) (i) and (ii) to be specific. Interesting reading.

Did anyone else notice when I wrote:

"What was that lieberal/leftie mantra again? Oh yeah, deny, deflect and defend to the death. The truth is out there, they just don't see it."

in a previous comment, someone made assumptions that I was refering to them! I think it is time for me to stop playing in this pissing contest. All it does is lower me down to their level and get my shoes wet.

georgev, I think the phenomena you witnessed is very common in the civil service. I found that depending on when and were I've crossed the border, I either get a version of the Spanish Inquisition for daring to show up at their kiosk or a wave, smile and welcome home, eh. The trouble with the civil service is that inefficiency is not grounds for squat. Those people are just taking their retirement early by practicing doing as little as possible. The good ones just get lumped in with the rest.

And yes, the phenomena is international in nature, hence the phrase "I'm from the government and I'm here to help".

BTW, Any word on the ten year passports yet?

Youth for Volpe is back http://www.youthforvolpe.no-libs.com/

Richard's site is called "Let Freedom Ring" and it looks to be a great addition to a discussion on free speech on the Internet.

Do you think the Liberals will be able to shut it down? Comments?

He has some big brass balls, man, the DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE is now checking out his website, and says that he is not Mike Hunt.

And yay for Brian Neale of Neale News! He is reporting on this freedom of speech issue and he's even reporting that the suppressed website has been resurrected.

Change of topic if iterested, Prime Time Crime has an interesting story from South Carolina where they are doing a bill that puts repeat child molesters on deathrow. Hell of an idea I think

Of course, and as another more experienced Internet personality informed me, it could just be a Department of Justice employee using their computer on their break to check out a story they're interested in.

The bigger picture is that Volpe is using his lawyers and connections to shut down parody against him. Worse, he may, (may, I stress: the Elections Commissioner hasn't investigated and made a determination) have known about an alleged Electoral offence committed by the parents of these children:

405.3 (1) No person or entity shall make a contribution to a registered party, a registered association, a candidate or a leadership contestant or a nomination contestant that comes from money, property or the services of another person or entity that was provided to that person or entity for that purpose

Either that, or (to take the example of the twins) these are some politically comitted 11-year olds with control of over $10,000 in liquid cash to spend however they want.

And of course, how they wanted to spend it is on Joe Volpe — and not on, say, Stephane Dion.

Does anyone anywhere believe that? That's a rhetorical question.

NDP MP Pat Martin has called for an investigation and I support his call.

Yes, Volpe's laywers also threatened Pat Martin with litigation.

It seems that a lot of innocent people are being threatened for what appears to be more slimy behaviour from from Volpe.

Funny how that works.

Ian Scott:

You are not welcome here, and you haven't been for a very long time. I've tolerated your participation up until now, but that's over.

Go waste your own bandwidth.

Jack's head exploded: CSL Clear $$Martin has burst!

Rotten ad hominems, Batman. Who stole the $$$$$?

"Let me just be very clear" says PaoloPayola;

the billions are missing Moi promised to Grand Chief Phil Fontaine. Was Gag around Kelowna, Jean?? ...

"Paul Martin burst back on the political scene Friday," says CP. ...

"Let me just be very clear: when I left government the money was there," Martin, now simply".
CP via canoenews

Good for you, Kate.

Originally I thought that CIRA (Canadian Internet Registration Authority) pulled the youthforvolpe.ca website because of incorrect domain name registration info, but now I realize that, as Stephen Taylor has reports, they pulled it down because they were threatned with being sued by Volpe's lawyers and were scared of being sued.

Big White Chief/Daddy Paul Who is lobbying for the Chiefs. ...

Harsh Federal Court ruling on breakdown of rule or law in Norway House Cree Nation
22 February 2006

Mr Justice Pierre Blais of the Federal Court of Canada has issued a harshly-worded ruling concerning the systematic breakdown of the rule of law in Norway House Cree Nation (NHCN), in response to an application by Councillor Marcel Balfour in the case of "Balfour vs. Chief Ron Evans et al".

In his ruling, Judge Blais finds that Chief Ron Evans (who is now Grand Chief of the Assembly of Manitoba Chiefs, and who is a prominent federal Liberal party member and former Churchill riding candidate) and certain other Norway House elected officials:
- engaged in "deplorable influence peddling and blackmail"
- engaged in "usurpation of power"
- "failed to respect the notion of representative democracy regarding
their activities (putting) democracy at risk"

- acted "in bad faith"
- held numerous "secret meetings" of a "sub-group" of Councillors and
undertook many "unauthorized actions" including a court action in
Manitoba Court of Queen's Bench and tendering invalid evidence in court. more
http://www.voy.com/178771/900.html

Re Ian Scott: Bravo Kate.

Two thumbs up Kate! No other comment required.

Prominent blogger Bill Roggio has just arrived in Kabul. He is interviewed here on the recent riots in that city and on other matters related to the situation in Afghanistan by PJM’s Sydney editor Richard Fernandez of The Belmont Club. First in a series.

Play or download the Roggio interview here.
http://pajamasmedia.com/2006/06/pjm_podcast_live_from_kabul.php

Yes, we have Paulie's word that the money was there but, itw wasn't in the budget!

They're here.

from CTV.ca, Sat. Jun. 3 2006 12:15 AM ET

"Police arrest terrorist suspects in Toronto"

http://tinyurl.com/gmlqp

RCMP will hold press conference in the morning. Seems several targets were planned for the center of the universe. 8 arrests so far, with ties to Al-Queda. Wonder if this will wake up all the leftists and islamofacist lovers and protectors. Proves their claim that giving in to them only shows your weakness. Not publishing the cartoons can't protect you. Hopefully all attacks have been stopped.

Canadian Sentinel is vindicated. Sentinel warned Canada months ago. The "camp' near Barry's Bay is closer to Combermere, Ontario.

Those who followed this blog and Canadian Sentinel's blog knew that the Islamist trerrorist/murderers were planning, sooner rather than later, to strike at Canadians, possibly at Americans, also.

Throughout the Chretien/Martin Librano$ years the Islamist terrorists were allowed to enter Canada wholesale. They provided "votes" for the Librano$.
The Liberal Party of Canada must be investigated as accessories to terrorism. ...

Canadian Sentinel is a Canadian hero.

Long live Canadian Sentinel.

Long live Minister Day.

Long live Prime Minister Harper....

Major terror bust in Toronto
At least 8 in 'terror' cell arrested as police foil possible attack on TTC
By VIVIAN SONG AND BRETT CLARKSON, TORONTO SUN
'Get inside, Get inside!' police shout

TORONTO - In a stunning development yesterday, police made a sweeping terrorist bust within the GTA and expected to make several more arrests throughout the night.

"The RCMP, CSIS and the Integrated National Security Enforcement Team arrested individuals throughout the GTA today in relation to terrorist-related offences," confirmed RCMP spokesman Corp. Michele Paradis.

As of about 9 p.m. last night, Paradis also added "there are ongoing arrests."

Though unconfirmed, sources have told the Sun police arrested a possible home-grown al-Qaeda terrorist cell operating in Toronto that had planned to bomb the subway as early as Monday.

Just three days ago, Sun columnist Joe Warmington wrote about two men spotted filming the subway system on May 23 at Keele station, which raised alarm bells with Toronto Police and CSIS.

But sources also tell the Sun that the RCMP "planted" that story with the media, though reasons remain unclear.

Police had been watching several alleged terrorist camps since 2004 -- one of which is reported to be in the Muskokas near Bracebridge and another near Thunder Bay, a police source told Warmington late last night.

"Recently some officers followed two men who left the camp near Thunder Bay and headed to Toronto," said the source.

Another Sun source said there was a similar "terrorist" camp near Barry's Bay -- within an hour's drive of several Ontario nuclear operations.
cnews

http://thecanadiansentinel.blogspot.com/

Comment # 2 at LGF.

So the public employees union in Toronto boycotts Israel.

...

Canadian Union of Public Employees (CUPE) joins "Boycott Israel" campaign.

CUPE aids/abets Islamist terrorism in the Middle East, across the world, and in Canada.

CUPE is a hug-a-terrorist union.

Down with CUPE.

Down with Islamist terrorist murderers.

Canada is at war with Islamist terrorist/jihad.

Comment # 2 below at Voy Forums re Islamist terrorists in Canada/Greater Toronto Area (GTA).

This view shows that this person lives in a 9/10 world as opposed to a 9/11 world. The World Trade Centre in New York City was brought down by the "brothers" of these GTA terrorists.

This commenter is in denial of the dire threat to Western civilization, including Canada. This commenter proposes these Islamist terrorists be treated as carrying out just a criminal act; whereas these Islamist terrorist were planning the destruction of this commenter's world. This commenter is a left liberal apologist for Islamist murderous/jihad.

This commenter's view is a product of the left liberals. The left liberals are natural allies of the Islamist terrorists.

As we have stated before, as Canadian Sentinel has shown, the Islamist enemy is within the gates of Canada. The left liberals will deny, deny, deny.

Left liberals view the Islamist terrorists as allies in their goal of destroying Western civilization, including the country of Canada.

The Islamist terrorists view the left liberals as dhimmis in submission to Islam. The terrorists would murder the left liberals as they cringe on their knees in submission to Islam.

Down with Islam.

Down with left liberals. ...

Commenter at Voy Forums:

"While I'm sure CSIS and the RCMP wouldn't move without quite a bit of proof, we have to be careful not to judge guilty without hearing the whole story. They arn't, after all, proven guilty until they've had their time in court, no matter how much or how little evidence is against them."

Coalition forces include Canadian soldiers.

Taking the war to the enemy; taking the war to the Taliban, the Islamist terrorists in Afghanistan.

The Taliban and the terrorists captured in Canada are "brothers". ...

Coalition, Afghan forces retake town; up to 20 suspected Taliban killed: official

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) - U.S.-led coalition and Afghan forces retook a southern Afghanistan town from suspected Taliban rebels in heavy fighting that left as many as 20 rebels dead, officials said Saturday.

The coalition forces and Afghan army troops on Friday drove suspected Taliban insurgents from the Uruzgan town of Chori, where militants had pushed out security forces earlier this week, said Gen. Zahir Azimi, a Defence Ministry spokesman.

At least 15 rebels lay dead in the town after the fighting and as many as 20 may have died, he said. There was no word on coalition or Afghan army casualties. cnews

Commenter "Anonymeme" at Voy Forums.

Subject: Preemptive justice for terrorists.

Extreme measures must be taken to protect ourselves from the terrorists we have admitted into our midst ... and thinking that they would respect our democratic secular principles on which our society is based.

Those that cling to the notion that due process is necessary to protect our democracy is like turning the other cheek after your body has been blown to bits by some terrorist bombing. Great mischief is being planned and the governmental authorities must take extreme measures to ensure that the mischief does not come to fruition ... and if that means a constriction of our freedoms so be it .... better safe than sorry when dealing with terrorists hidden in our midst ...!!!
http://www.voy.com/178771/923.html

Here's the link to the CTV story.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060602/al_gore_060602/20060602?hub=TopStories

Here's how it would have been titled if it was a republican president made the comments.

"US President Slags Canada"

There is no media bias, there is no media bias....

I'll be waiting with baited breath to see how the CBC comments on the arrests of terrorists in Toronto.

Yesterday morning they had a protracted piece on the poor Muslims who have been forced to homeschool their children in the State of Virginia because they are afraid of a backlash in the U.S. Last night they did a report on the angst of a Muslim mother in Virginia whose son ("he was always such a good boy") is now in jail for conspiring to commit terrorist acts, etc.

Come again?

Next thing you know, like maybe today, the CBC will be reporting on the poor families of these guys who've just been arrested. We'll have to endure laments about a possible backlash against these unfortunate lads and their families. Get out your hankies.

The reporting will veer from the threats to Canadian sovereignty and our right to defend ourselves, to a discussion about the plight of immigrants and minorities in Canada and how the system discriminates against them. There will be a full-scale pity party about Muslims and their difficult life here in Canada.

'No mention of what happens to immigrants or minorities in Muslim countries (hey, nobody immigrates to a Muslim country unless their business requires it and we know how minorities are treated in Muslim countries: badly, they have NO rights). The CBC will hit us over the head about the "rights and freedoms" of Muslims being violated.

I wish this was just parody. The news is coming up and I suspect that my scenario is simply a deja vu of what's to come...momentarily.

A Man With No Chest: "bigroy".

Here is the left liberal/Liberal/NDP socialist denial/apology by regular commenter "bigroy" at Voy Forums.

"bigroy" is an affronted Dhimmi; an idiotarian; a zombie, a dead man walking: a man with no chest. (H/T C.S. Lewis).

The attack on Conservative Prime Minister Harper is the clue/giveaway to the left liberal sympathy with the Islamist terrorists.

The enemy within: "bigroy" and his Band of Brothers/tribe who spout: "They are just freedom fighters".
...

"bigroy" said:

"Of course we've had a "terrorist sweep" in Canada - after all, taking all our democratic freedoms, constitutional and civil rights and human rights away from us has to be justified in the ad columns of the cornflayx sellers, has to be justified, doesn't it.

Allow them legal representation, right to bail, right to appearances in court and a full and open hearing and you'll move me. Deny them their constitutional rights and you offend me!

Now, if the authorities had exercised their rights in the full light of the courtroom, I'd be moved.

But, in the secrecy of "let out only what we need to continue our reign of terror" - no ... I'm not moved, at all.

The authorities ... including "Prime Minister Stephen Harper is aware of the raid but did not comment. A spokesperson said Harper did not want to impede the operation while it unfolds." ... are totally self-serving in what they choose to release and what they wish to hide.

Making these arrests under the cloak of secrecy of the terrorism legislation, is an affront to democracy, is what it is.

Plain and simple."

Youth for Volpe website creator denies CIRA statement
http://www.digitalhomecanada.com/content/view/1281/51/
Friday, 02 June 2006
Earlier today Digital Home Canada was informed that the registrar of the YouthForVolpe.ca website had CIRA suspend the website domain because the website creator would not provide valid Canadian contact information.

Digital Home Canada contacted the creator of the website who says that interpretation is false.

In several emails to Digital Home, the website creator claims the registrar, Canadian Domain Name Services took down the youthforvolpe.ca website without any warning.

When the website creator discovered the site had been removed, an email was sent to the registrar asking why the actions were taken. The registrar advised the site creator that it had violated Article 3.1 Paragraph (h) (i) and (ii) of CIRA Policies which allow CIRA to suspend a domain name. The rules say CIRA may suspend a domain if the site is directly or indirectly, defaming or contributing to the defamation of any other Person or unlawfully discriminating or contributing to the unlawful discrimination of any other Person.

The rationale provided by the registrar contradicts the rationale put forth in a statement released earlier today by CIRA which stated "The registrar advised CIRA that it made this request because its registrant would not provide valid Canadian contact information."

The website creator asserts that he was never asked by Canadian Domain Name Services to provide valid Canadian contact information and that the site was shutdown unilaterally.

Digital Home has attempted to contact Canadian Domain Name Services and CIRA to verify what we have been told but have received no response.

We will update this story as we learn more.

The Youth for Joe Volpe Web site is brilliant. What a great laugh!! Methinks that JV doth protest too much. There'd have been far fewer hits on this Web site if he'd been content to leave "freedom of speech" alone and not try to manipulate Internet content.

Of course, the Librano way is to strong arm anyone who disagrees with them, but perhaps Joe will get the message that the Librano$ aren't in quite the position they used to be: Blogs are making sure Canadians know what's really going on and being the Opposition in Parliament doesn't have quite the cache that being in power does.

Poor Joe. He's not used to not being Number One.

The Canadian Coalition for Democracies (CCD)

David Harris joins CCD as Senior Fellow for National Security:
May 31 2006 - CTV Canada AM interviews David Harris on Canada's Immigration security collapse & homegrown terrorists
May 31 2006 - CTV Newsnet interviews David Harris on the identified risk of homegrown terrorists and the risk of a London 7/7 bombing in Canada

canadiancoalition.com/forum

Thanks JM for the link. Unfortunately, I couldn't access it. Some kind of error.

New Kid,

try

http://canadiancoalition.com/

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