As I work here at the shop, I've been watching a panel of journalists and ex-politicos on CPAC navel-gazing about the current wrestling match between the Ottawa press and the Harper PMO.
There's been some interesting general discussion, including a laughable half-denial/dismissal of "perceived" liberal bias in the Canadian media - "(oh, it exists, of course that's acceptable, because that's the enlightened small-l liberal world view - unlike the propoganda on FOX and US talk radio"). This was followed by - I'm not making this up - ironically revealing comments from David Halton on the "docility" of the American press towards the Bush administration, and their supposed practice of labelling anyone who disagrees with their policies as "unpatriotic" - confirming suspicions in some quarters that Canadian media uses Democratic Underground forums as a source on US politics.
Just in case you thought these people were capable of meaningful self-examination. I suggest you catch it, if it's still on. If anyone digs up a transcript, there's blogging gold in there....
TrackBack URL for this entry:
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/mt/mt-tb.cgi/3702
Kate:...watched the same broadcast last night...interesting to say the least...I'm sure someone will provide the blog-fodder...
Name is MMoore? +
CBC taps American to craft new shows
Toronto Star - 9 hours ago
The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation has hired an American film producer who served as the president of American Zoetrope, filmmaker Francis Ford Coppola's production company, as its new head of arts and entertainment programming. ... +
googoonews
Yeah, I saw that too, Kate. Guess what was on CPAC afterwards?
http://consciouscontent.blogspot.com
Posted by: Elizabeth at March 30, 2006 11:10 AMStalking Harper +
Stalking Scalia
Ronald Cass is the former dean of Boston University Law School. In a powerful column for RealClearPolitics today he writes regarding the media assault on Justice Scalia:
The game now is to find a way of making it seem that Scalia's personal life and conduct commit him to positions on important legal issues in a way that interferes with his ability to decide matters impartially - not because Scalia has in fact done so and not because his accusers care about impartiality. Instead, the game matters because Scalia is the leading voice for a set of legal propositions that run counter to the political, social, and constitutional agenda of the dominant voices in almost every major element of America's Speaking elites.
Suffice it to say that Cass's column explains a lot. +
http://www.powerlineblog.com/
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/03/stalking_justice.html
"Denial Isn't Just A River In Ottawa"
They are using the water, from the river to make
to make their Kool-Aid.
Caught a bit of that CPAC re-broadcast today.
Peter Donalo was on the panel, didn't he used to work for a liberal PM?
John Godfrey was sitting on the panel, isn't he running for the leadership of the liberal party?
Nope no bias here.
Posted by: gimbol at March 30, 2006 11:34 AMWith reference to your mention of the 'docility' of the American MSM: Surely they are PAID to spout this nonsense- just like OUR MSM is? (And for the very same reasons?)
Posted by: davie at March 30, 2006 12:31 PMI find it very interesting that 2 stories are converging into 1 here in Canada.
The MSM is crying that Harper is singlehandedly destroying democracy and freedom of the press in Canada.At the same time,polls(gotta luv'em)show a slow but steady increase in Harper's popularity.
So which is it?Canadians hearing the press and ignoring their cries of wolf,or are Canadians,for the most part,just not paying any attention at all?Personally,I hope it is the former.
Posted by: Canadian Observer at March 30, 2006 12:31 PM
The 'Keystone Liberals' have descended into a state of being locked in their rooms until they decide to their homework.
They are tossing their teddy bears against the wall and having fits that they are not in power. Just the Democrats in the USA.
They have NOTHING to offer.
Posted by: Duke at March 30, 2006 12:41 PM
Canadian Observer:...I would hope, at least, for the former as well. Or could that creak I hear be the rusty lid, on our collective 'jar of denial', being slowly opened??
The bias in the media is frustrating because the media themselves don't see it.
There's a newspaper editor who has stated (privately) that the bias isn't a conspiracy because the media is full of people who aren't smart enough to come up with one. In fact, they're so dumb they don't see past the end of their noses. They're such a tight clique that they actually believe that they represent the mainstream opinion and that they're fair. They're in complete and total denial.
You can't change their minds until they see what everyone else sees. Until then, they're about as useful as listening to a dissertation from Jessica Simpson on physics.
Posted by: Warwick at March 30, 2006 12:50 PMMay I humbly suggest that the MSM reflects the country? Yes apparently 36%(at best) are Conservative and the rest(64%)are not, if a free vote means anything. So if a minority view is not reflected in the MSM you will understand won't you? Luckily for Conservatives you live next door to the world's bastion of Conservatism. There is a plethora of Conservative media to chose from.
Posted by: steve d. at March 30, 2006 12:52 PMWhich is worse in both Canada and the US, the uncontrolled social engineer judiciary or the uncontrolled social engineer MSM?
Rhetorical question. IMO, they're complementary diseases.
And do they really not see their own biases, their bigotry? Group-think, as Orwell described, can be a profoundly powerful condition.
Posted by: Dave at March 30, 2006 12:58 PMNo Liberal bias among MSM journalists? So how is it that so many of them go on to other plum "assignments" in government? Here's some evidence:
Pamela Wallin - Canada's Consul General in New York, appointed by PM Chretien.
from http://www.cbc.ca/lifeandtimes/wallin.html
"An idealistic young Wallin abandoned social work for a career in journalism and the chance to mould public opinion."
Adrienne Clarkson - Governor General
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrienne_Clarkson
"Throughout the 1990's there was much speculation that Clarkson would soon be given a high level patronage appointment. This was finally realized in 1995 when Prime Minister Jean Chrétien and then Heritage Minister Michel Dupuy appointed her to the chair of the board of the Canadian Museum of Civilization ...
On October 7, 1999 she was sworn in as the twenty-sixth Governor General of Canada, after being appointed by Queen Elizabeth II, Canada’s head of state, on the advice of Prime Minister Jean Chrétien."
Jeanne Sauve - Governor General
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanne_Sauvé
"Sauvé was a founding member of the Institute of Political Research and for over 20 years had a distinguished career as a journalist and broadcaster with the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation...
In the winter of 1983, Prime Minister Trudeau announced her appointment as Governor General."
Romeo LeBlanc - Governor General
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romeo_LeBlanc
"LeBlanc was a teacher, before becoming a journalist. After working for Radio-Canada, he served as press secretary for two Prime Ministers: Lester B. Pearson and Pierre Trudeau...
He was first elected to the House of Commons as a Liberal Member of Parliament in 1972. He served as Minister of Fisheries and Oceans through most of the 1970s under Prime Minster Pierre Trudeau. Trudeau appointed him to the Senate in 1984, and became its Speaker in 1993...
His appointment as Governor-General by Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chrétien was criticized by some as being little more than a patronage gift to a loyal party member."
Susan Murray - Scott Brison's Communications Director
from http://www.cbcwatch.ca/?q=node/view/411
"Murray, who has worked for the public broadcaster for almost 30 years, resigned from the CBC yesterday and begins her new duties in Brison's office on Monday."
and from a description of "routines" presented at the Oct. 2004 Press Gallery Dinner http://www.carleton.ca/sjc/newsevents/tuesdaytopics/261004.shtml
"There was also a report on distribution of a secret potion by the Liberals. The product, dubbed Libereau, had caused reporters like Ian Jack and Susan Murray to fall in love with the Liberals and leave journalism for government flackery."
Many others - mentioned in a Nov. 9, 2005 post on SDA
from http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/002917.html
"We All Know Where The Rainbow Goes"
"Kevin Libin on the latest journalist to openly declare for the Liberals;
The Sun's Maria McClintock, who I hear has just been appointed to be Belinda Stronach's chief flack. McClintock's always been a tough reporter, but no one knows better than Belinda that everyone has their price. But exactly how long has McClintock been in negotiations over this gig? Up until today, she was filing stories for the Sun on the Gomery report and the rumoured election. On Wednesday, she was on a Mike Duffy panel, when she uttered this Belinda-ism:
MCCLINTOCK: Well, Stephen Harper is between a rock and a hard place here. He doesn't have the numbers. He has to be careful about being seen too close to separatist Bloc leader Gilles Duceppe and...[ellipsis in original]
So, if the McClintock thing is true—and my sources are good—that adds her to the growing list of journos who have been successfully assimilated. Here's just a sampling: Jason Moscovitz (from CBC to the BDC), Drew Fagan (from G&M to Foreign Affairs), Susan Murray (from CBC to Scott Brison's office), Ian Jack (from FP to Industry Dept), Jim Munson (from CTV to Senate), and Michaelle Jean, of course (RDC to GG). There's more here.
He quotes columnist Tom Korski;
'Many journalists prefer the rich glow of influence that is only reflected in cufflinks and chauffeured cars. There have been more journalists named to the Senate--59, in total-- than doctors, bankers or financiers.' "
And a Don Martin column found here:
http://www.cbcwatch.ca/?q=node/view/613http://www.cbcwatch.ca/?q=node/view/613
"Tuesday, October 19, 2004
OTTAWA - Being a journalist on Parliament Hill is supposed to be a job, not a job application.
But you'd never know it from the exodus of senior national press-gallery reporters defecting to the dark side, pulling down serious coin to serve as flacks on the federal government's payroll."
Although I applaud Mr. Harper's distancing himself & his government from the kind of incestuous relationship that apparently existed between Liberal governments and the media, I would not be surprised at the media showing even more anti-Conservative bias.
Reading on this very topic in the blogosphere (unfortunately I do not remember the reference), a journalist, announcing to his team that they would be covering Diefenbaker, apparently stated: "Gentlemen, we have a government to defeat."
Posted by: Gabby in QC at March 30, 2006 1:01 PMThen Thank God for the United States.
Interesting how when the Conservatives win at 36%
they have the 'minority' viewpoint, but when the Liberals win at 36% then they have the 'correct' world view.
Steve d,
I refuse to believe that you can be that ignorant. My faith in humanity must be sadly misplaced. What exacltly would it take for you to see reality? To drop the blindfold and realise how you have been suckered by the media, by your fellow socialists? You blindly and repeatedly spout your drivel.
You are wrong.
enough
Gabbi in QC:...incestuous to say the least...what better way to have silenced a voice that could have spoken out against them and/or possibly the payola for having helped "them" to maintain "their" power (wouldn't matter what party was in power)...?
should read..."Gabby"...
"Reading on this very topic in the blogosphere (unfortunately I do not remember the reference), a journalist, announcing to his team that they would be covering Diefenbaker, apparently stated: "Gentlemen, we have a government to defeat."
-------------------------------------------------
The comment was made, I believe, by Norman DePoe. It was not made to his team, but rather in the press room to all the journalists who covered Ottawa. Strangely enough, especially for you ring wing nutters, the knock against Diefenbaker was his extreme anti-americanism. It was felt that Lester Pearson was the man who could restore the traditional good friendship between the two countries.
Of course, ol'Lester did, a couple of years later, critize the U.S. involvement in the war in Vietnam as well. But that's a tale for another day.
T
http://centreofcanada.blogspot.com/
"Reading on this very topic in the blogosphere (unfortunately I do not remember the reference), a journalist, announcing to his team that they would be covering Diefenbaker, apparently stated: "Gentlemen, we have a government to defeat."
-------------------------------------------------
The comment was made, I believe, by Norman DePoe. It was not made to his team, but rather in the press room to all the journalists who covered Ottawa. Strangely enough, especially for you ring wing nutters, the knock against Diefenbaker was his extreme anti-americanism. It was felt that Lester Pearson was the man who could restore the traditional good friendship between the two countries.
Of course, ol'Lester did, a couple of years later, critize the U.S. involvement in the war in Vietnam as well. But that's a tale for another day.
http://centreofcanada.blogspot.com/
T
http://centreofcanada.blogspot.com/
"Reading on this very topic in the blogosphere (unfortunately I do not remember the reference), a journalist, announcing to his team that they would be covering Diefenbaker, apparently stated: "Gentlemen, we have a government to defeat."
-------------------------------------------------
The comment was made, I believe, by Norman DePoe. It was not made to his team, but rather in the press room to all the journalists who covered Ottawa. Strangely enough, especially for you ring wing nutters, the knock against Diefenbaker was his extreme anti-americanism. It was felt that Lester Pearson was the man who could restore the traditional good friendship between the two countries.
Of course, ol'Lester did, a couple of years later, critize the U.S. involvement in the war in Vietnam as well. But that's a tale for another day.
http://centreofcanada.blogspot.com/
T
http://centreofcanada.blogspot.com/
Oopsies. 'Puter on steroids. Sorry.
http://centreofcanada.blogspot.com/
Posted by: Don at March 30, 2006 1:51 PMFor the right or more conservative people, doesn't the CBC represent an opportunity rather than a curse?
Wouldn't a state funded media already in place be an opportunity to control the message rather than just cabinet ministers? A fascist's dream. Start infiltrating now. Think big.
Posted by: steve in bc at March 30, 2006 1:51 PMenough
"I refuse to believe that you can be that ignorant. My faith in humanity must be sadly misplaced"
Socialists don't have faith in humanity, why have faith in their ability to see the world as it truly is. Thats why their primary objective is to control every aspect of life, cradle to grave. Don't you know we just aren't smart enough to take care of ourselves, that's what gov't agencies are for.
Posted by: Ryan at March 30, 2006 1:57 PMInterestingly I read an article in the Edmonton Journal yesterday about PMSH secret cabinet meetings and his denying the press access. Then I read further into the article this;
"Harper later delivered a rousing speech to an open meeting of his caucus, allowing reporters to mingle with MPs and cabinet ministers before and after."
So how is access being denied?
Posted by: Alberta Girl at March 30, 2006 2:02 PMEnough
So I am blind? I would invite you to educate me. I have spent a good number of years educating myself and continue to do so. I long for correction when I err. So you tell me where I err and IF you are correct and I am wrong I will happily change. But I don't change just because someone says I should change. I change when the evidence is convincing.
Posted by: steve d. at March 30, 2006 2:10 PMSton & Deve are leading the charge of the "social activists".
On Donder, on Steveson... (H/T C.C. Moore)
Social; the word is code for socialism.
Down with Socialism. +
Social activists urge Stephen Harper and Tories to reverse themselves
OTTAWA (CP) - A coalition of social activist groups is urging Stephen Harper to backtrack on a number of his priority issues, including child care and closer ties with the United States. +
via ggoglenews
Public opinion stated in percentages of those who *actually voted*, may not be reliable as a barometer of public mood on each topic as time passes.
We have already seen that the polls look favorably on PMSH's efforts since the election; 60+% actually.
All in spite of the media's angle...good to see people starting to think for themselves, even if they do not all vote.
The evidence is all around you. The soviet union failed because communism did not work. France and Germany economically failing because of their socialist policies. The Liberals are thieves, the MSM is biased, there is no conservative MSM other than Fox. Same in the US.
Where to continue? Virtually everything you say is wrong. You live a deluded dream of the way you wish things to be, but it has no basis in reality.
I read your posts and you are what is wrong with Canada. You personify the liberal/ndp mindset perfectly. People like you have made a once proud nation into a third rate wannabe. Proud of what you have accomplished?
enough
Kate,
On their site CPAC claims not to provide transcripts of its programs. However, that show should soon be in their rebroadcast loop. I will make sure to capture it and have the prize moments available.
Posted by: Paul Canniff at March 30, 2006 2:46 PM"But I don't change just because someone says I should change. I change when the evidence is convincing."
Okay steve,fair enough,I'll take your word for it.If you do indeed consider your position that carefully,I'm sure we all could really benefit from your understanding of the LPC.
So,with that in mind,I hope you can articulate to us what it means to be a Liberal supporter in Canada?We all would like to know what the Liberal Party of Canada stands for....Former PM Martin could not articulate it.Even the MSM you defend here today made numerous editorial on the"no message"message of the Liberals.
So I would ask you take the time to try and articulate what being a Liberal means to you.
Thank You
BTW,any attacks on Cons will just be"convincing evidence"that you have nothing of value to offer after all.
Posted by: Canadian Observer at March 30, 2006 2:55 PMRyan said: "Don't you know we just aren't smart enough to take care of ourselves, that's what gov't agencies are for."
Good, which government agency will pay my bills, take out my garbage, wash my car, cook my dinner, hug my kids, wash my dishes, draw my bathwater, get my ailing parent to the doctor and surgeon, flush my toilet, and have sex with my wife?
Isn't there a Charter Right to stupidity?
Thats how the Adscam program "worked", you get paid for doing little or no work.
Stupidity, a new Canadian value.
Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at March 30, 2006 3:39 PMI thought DeNile was a river in Egypt.
Be that as it may, one must remember that decat jumped over defence with defeat before detail.
Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at March 30, 2006 3:47 PMGood, which government agency will pay my bills, take out my garbage, wash my car, cook my dinner, hug my kids, wash my dishes, draw my bathwater, get my ailing parent to the doctor and surgeon, flush my toilet, and have sex with my wife?
Well, if the government won't do it, I'll have sex with you wife!
Ba-da-boom!
I'll be here all week, folks!
Posted by: Joe Schmoe at March 30, 2006 3:51 PMInteresting how when the Conservatives win at 36% they have the 'minority' viewpoint, but when the Liberals win at 36% then they have the 'correct' world view.
Well, they generally assume that the other 30% or so voting Bloc/NDP/fringe will share a good chunk of their perspective on policy and gov't, only differing in the margins and in certain issue-areas (extent of gov't ownership, sovereignty, etc)...
Posted by: Dudley Morris at March 30, 2006 4:03 PMBypass the MSM. +
News Release:
HEADQUARTERS UNITED STATES CENTRAL COMMAND
COALITION FORCES PRESS ADVANTAGE IN HELMAND PROVINCE
Release Date:
3/29/2006
Release Number:
06-03-02PJ
Description:
BAGRAM AIRFIELD, Afghanistan – In continuing fighting in Helmand Province , Coalition forces killed 20 insurgents and destroyed two Taliban headquarters buildings today. The 20 enemy casualties were in addition to 12 enemy casualties previously reported as part of an early-morning engagement that continued into daylight hours as Coalition forces defeated a large enemy element that was attempting to retreat into sanctuaries.
Coalition forces also discovered large caches of munitions as they overran the Taliban compound and the enemy fled. Coalition forces destroyed the munitions, which included weapons and improvised explosive device materials, causing multiple secondary explosions and destroying the compound and all enemy military equipment inside. +
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1606328/posts
CPAC is carrying this forum, as Kate mentioned, and the group hosting it seems to have transcripts for former forums.
Perhaps they will do the same for this one.
There is a contact person, for the brave soul who was ready to take on the challenge of transcribing from a video tape...it is a lot of work;)
http://ppforum.ca/home-e.html
And it is on CPAC again at the moment.
Posted by: Buffalo Bean at March 30, 2006 4:08 PMsteve d
"I would invite you to educate me. I have spent a good number of years educating myself"
Hope you didn't spend too much on that education of yours.
Posted by: Ryan at March 30, 2006 4:14 PMThe two dingbats: BB and PA.
Crusty, Salty, Loyola Hearn sends 'em packing.
H/T: Minister Loyola Hearn from Newfoundland.
Way to go, bye.
Loyola stays true to Lizer.
Ise the bye who builds the boat And Ise the bye who sails her. Ise the bye who catches the fish And takes them home to Lizer. Hip your partner Sally Tibbo, ...
www.queenmedbencampment.org/antarbh/music.html - 4k -
Seal-ly strategy
Calgary Sun - 29 Mar 2006
OTTAWA -- Canada's Fisheries Minister Loyola Hearn swung back at anti-sealing celebrities such as Pamela Anderson and Paul McCartney, suggesting they're has-beens and calling them dupes for lucrative animal rights groups. ... +
googlenews
Posted by Don at March 30, 2006 01:48 PM
"Strangely enough, especially for you ring wing nutters, the knock against Diefenbaker was his extreme anti-americanism. It was felt that Lester Pearson was the man who could restore the traditional good friendship between the two countries."
Regardless of the context, it is not the media's self-appointed role to bring down governments by their "gotcha" type of journalism.
Who appointed the media to be the judge & executioner of any public figure or government, anyway? The government should be able to communicate its policies to the people & the people can then decide whether they accept them or not.
The media can and should scrutinize government actions and bring this to the attention of the public, which will then take the appropriate actions at the next election. However, more often than not, the tone adopted by most journalists, instead of dealing with the 5 Ws - Who, What, Where, When, Why - and How, intersperse their reports with their own opinions, or derision and ridicule, rather than simply exposing the facts. THAT is what THIS "ring wing nutter" find repugnant, not to mention idiots who immediately label a person on the basis of one post.
Posted by: Gabby in QC at March 30, 2006 4:19 PMmaz2...you can cut and paste till hell freezes over and they'll still be unhappy with cbc.
What is needed is not your mouse but a plan. Think...wwald? What would a lefty do? They'd get organized. Don't eliminate the CBC...use it.
Take it back. Maybe that's what the socialists did 50 years ago.
I'm ready for my diagnosis now.
Posted by: steve in bc at March 30, 2006 4:24 PMGabby in QC...that is it exactly...
The 5 Ws that we all were tested on throughout every level of school, is not what the media uses as a guideline.
House fires or traffic accidents or shootings might follow the who, what, when, where, and why.
But more and more, where it counts for the whole of society, we get *journalist's* opinions touted as being the 'Why".
Posted by: Buffalo Bean at March 30, 2006 4:28 PMHey Gabby, buy a book. Read about the Cuban Missle Crisis. Then, come back and chat.
Dolt.
http://centreofcanada.blogspot.com/
Yeah, Peter Donalo's statement that all media aren't created equal and that specifically, scribes in Ottawa are usually small l liberals who subscribe to a Metropolitan lifestyle, are smart by nature and possess cutting edge ideas. As opposed to conservatives journalists and thinkers in general who are inbreds, grade 10 educated and bigots by nature.
Thanks God we were all enlightened by the guy[Donalo] who speaks like a kid with ten Halls in his mouth. I wish Larry Martin had have been sitting beside him because I think he would have smacked 'em.
Posted by: Scott at March 30, 2006 4:45 PMJoe Schmoe said:
"Well, if the government won't do it, I'll have sex with your wife!"
Joe the government will have sex with you on April 30th, 2006 when the deadline to file your 2005 taxes 'comes'.
You haven't heard of CRA (Canadian Reamingout Agency)?
I especially liked the CBC Mercer report send up video on the TD "Hand in your Pocket" ad; redone as the CRA "Knee in your package" spot.
You can find it here:
http://www.cbc.ca/mercerreport/backissues.php
This is arguably one the finest uses of our tax disbursements to the CBC since the Jan. 23, 2006 election; that sent PM Paul Martin packing.
One afterall has to be even handed in criticizing the media.
I liked the old Red Green show moniker as well:
"If its not broken you are not trying hard enough."
Cheers
Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at March 30, 2006 5:09 PMFollow the evidence when it comes to the MSM.
If they where not as biased as most people KNOW. Than why are liberal Media dying?
Why is paper readership down for all papaers except those that have either a spread of opinion like the SUN paper chain or Conservative & makes no bones what there beliefs are & are un-appolgetic. No pretending to be neutral there.
What bothers us right wing nuts is not liberal opinion. Its the contemptable crime of them claiming there objective & only there opinion is real or in argot of the communist leanings of these socialists pimps. The progresive view. The tolerant , caring sharing nonesense they always cloak there perfidities in.One only has to pass a hospital & see smokers out in -20 in a hopital gown . Forced to smoke outside as a punishment for going against liberal defined wrongs. Its malicious & spiteful . Worthy of the inquisition. Same goes for there Human rights kangaroo courts run by the most fanatical of all the democratic possuers.Usually NDP supporters . All conservativesof any opinions are lice ridden relics from the middle ages.According to the Liberal Elite & therefore anything they say is nonesense but anything they say is more real than God. You see this reflected in the media & a lot of TV programs.
Such hubris is not only moraly poisonious & misleading. Its the mentality of an ossified mind.
I have prety much stopped watching Canadian TV news. Most of the feeds are American with the commentary twisted to vilify them & afirm the liberal mantra.
That the press took so long to break the adscam & other corruptions is proof of there soft handling of Libs compared to Conservatives.
To this day Creitien has not been taken to task for his part in the great amounts of money taken by these crooks.Martin who was so inept they kept trying to shield. It was obsene watching this.I feel its the main reason now no one trusts the national media. They enabled a criminal political party to loot a Nation & turned a blind eye. That says it all. These folks are not the protecters of & dispensers of news for the common Man or Women. As all the appointments to be Govonor General & other commisions et al. It seems liberal jounalism was just a stepping stone to political power.
We shall see if the Consevative press can stay away from the temptations of power. I have a feeling they will. If not people like Kate & blogs will plow threw them, expose them . After all they owe there very existance to people looking for truth . Not canned propaganda or lies to shore up comprimised governments.
Posted by: Revnant Dream at March 30, 2006 5:25 PMEmbassy mag Spills Its Guts:
Aunty-American, Aunty-Harper, Aunty-Conservative & etc.
Read this: "to undermine... Harper" Sedition, with traitorous implications.
"One of the easiest ways for the media to try to undermine Prime Minister Stephen Harper (outside of Quebec at least) is to draw comparisons to former prime minister Brian Mulroney."
President Who?
The PMO media wars are more than just an "inside Ottawa" procedural story. There are a number of ways they can be blown up to become national, and even international stories.
A case in point -- and one raised in the above mentioned Buckler-Press Galley meeting -- was a recent visit by the interim President of Haiti, Gérard Latortue. Responding to complaints that no notice was given of Prime Minister Harper's meeting with President Latortue, Ms. Buckler said she wasn't aware they had met, and then suggested it may have just been a courtesy visit and not worth announcing.
It is bad enough that the prime minister's communications director can't recall a meeting with a head of state (which in the early days of this government are still a novelty). The real problem was that she would try to suggest the meeting was not worth mentioning.
This was a meeting with the head of state of an impoverished, violence-plagued country where Canadians have died trying to help, and which has seen many of its citizens -- including our Governor General Michaëlle Jean -- flee to Canada to start a new life.
The only reason for secrecy is to avoid having to answer questions. And the only reason for trying to avoid questions is because there is something to hide. If the prime minister and his communications director do not understand that this is how the news media think in a free and democratic society, then they really are in trouble.
How Bad Can It Really Get?
One of the easiest ways for the media to try to undermine Prime Minister Stephen Harper (outside of Quebec at least) is to draw comparisons to former prime minister Brian Mulroney. + more
http://www.embassymag.ca/html/index.php?display=story&full_path=/2006/march/29/durkan/
Follow the evidence when it comes to the MSM.
If they where not as biased as most people KNOW. Than why are liberal Media dying?
Why is paper readership down for all papaers except those that have either a spread of opinion like the SUN paper chain or Conservative. That makes no bones what there beliefs & are un-appolgetic for them. No pretending to be neutral there.
What bothers us right wing nuts is not liberal opinion (I consider this a compliment, from Liberals). Its the contemptable crime of them claiming there objective & only there opinion is real, or in the argot of there communist leanings of these socialists cheer leaders. The progresive view. The tolerant , caring sharing nonesense they always cloak there perfidities in.One only has to pass a hospital & see smokers out in -20 in a hopital gown . Forced to smoke outside as a punishment for going against liberal defined wrongs. Its malicious & spiteful . Worthy of the inquisition.We can send probes out of the solor system but not a room for smokers? Same goes for there Human rights kangaroo courts run by the most fanatical of all. The democratic Socialist possuers.Usually NDP supporters . All conservatives of any opinions are lice ridden relics from the middle ages.According to the Liberal Elite & therefore anything they say is nonesense but anything they say is more real than God. You see this reflected in the media & a lot of TV programs.
Such hubris is not only moraly poisonious & misleading. Its the mentality of an ossified mind.
I have pretty much stopped watching Canadian TV news. Most of the feeds are American with the commentary twisted to vilify them & afirm the liberal mantra.
That the press took so long to break the adscam & other corruptions is proof of there soft handling of Libs compared to Conservatives.
To this day Creitien has not been taken to task for his part in the great amounts of money taken by these crooks.Martin who was so inept, they kept trying to shield him threw the entire election . Untill it became even obvious to them, that the leadership was not shall we say stable. It was obsene watching this.I feel its the main reason now no one trusts the national media.
They enabled a criminal political party to loot a Nation & turned a blind eye. That says it all. These folks are not the protecters of & dispensers of news for the common Man or Women. As all the appointments to be Govonor General & other commisions et al. It seems liberal jounalism was just a stepping stone to political power.
We shall see if the Consevative press can stay away from the temptations of power. I have a feeling they will. If not! People like Kate & blogers will plow threw them, expose them, than let the public judge . After all they owe there very existance to people looking for truth . Not canned propaganda or lies to shore up comprimised governments.
Posted by: Revnant Dream at March 30, 2006 5:33 PMsteve in bc said: "maz2...you can cut and paste".
OK, kayo, & etc.
Here, mousey......(easy) >>> 5 Priorities:
"the Conservative Party will pursue the following five priorities:
* Clean up government by passing the Federal Accountability Act;
* Provide real tax relief to working families by cutting the GST;
* Make our streets and communities safer by cracking down on crime;
* Help parents with the cost of raising their children; and
* Work with the provinces to establish a Patient Wait Times Guarantee." +
http://www.conservative.ca/1091/37440/
The unbelievable willingness of some people to be gulled by anyone who claims to be the protector or defender of their "Rights" never fails to amaze!
The MSM does this all the time. Make any assertion that in some way they are working for the public good. Then attack anyone who dares to question that assertion.
I can decide for myself if I need a spokesperson on my behalf or if I need someone to look out for my interests.
I have never in my life felt the need to rely on the Media for either.
Arrogant and driven by a very false sense of self importance....these MSM folks are going the way of the dodo.
Posted by: PGP at March 30, 2006 6:12 PMPGP,
You are probably glad you missed Barlow on CTV tonight... enough to make a guy puke. It never ceases to amaze me how she can pontificate about Harper not "speaking for Canada", and then go on to tell the world what Canadians are thinking.
Posted by: William Macdonell at March 30, 2006 8:02 PMBarlow? I thought she was on exhibit in that museum in Drumheller, Alberta!
Posted by: Kevin at March 30, 2006 8:16 PMI just saw Maude Barlow on CTV ...........another exchange that had me shouting at the TV. She was well over the top and I have no idea why CTV would invite here, as the representative Canadian commentator, on their news show. The American commentator did respond to some of her ravings finally. And her arrogance in making her pronouncements on behalf of all Canadians is just breathtaking. Exactly how many Canadian does she speak for? I was literally embarassed to have such a biased, semi-hysterical commentator as the Canadian rep.
OK, deep breaths........I can do this.......
Posted by: WildRose at March 30, 2006 8:22 PMBarlow bloviating, as usual? Wheelbarlow? Lift your feet when the ole nag lifts her tail.
She is cut/put out by these events: +
FINALLY, we're rid of all that garbage talk from the Liberals to hang onto power, and things are finally happening with our government. God bless them all. Amen.
----------------------------------------
CTV News learned that secret high-level meetings took place weeks earlier between the Prime Minister's Office and the White House -- talks which could form the basis of an announcement of the resumption of negotiations in the contentious softwood dispute.
Sources told CTV's Ottawa bureau chief Robert Fife that Ian Brodie, Harper's chief of staff, and Derek Burney, the head of Harper's transition team and former ambassador to the U.S., travelled to Washington two weeks ago for high-level talks.
The pair met in the White House with U.S. National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley, Bush's senior political advisor Karl Rove and White House Chief of Staff Andy Card (now resigned).
"Their mission: to resolve the softwood lumber dispute and to put Canada-U.S. relations back on an even keel," said Fife Wednesday.
Harper's team was then called into the Oval Office for an unprecedented meeting with Bush to discuss the softwood dispute, which has tarnished relations between the two countries for years. "The president (told) them, 'We are going to resolve this issue'."
The U.S. imposed punitive duties on Canadian softwood lumber in 2002. While the U.S. stopped collecting those duties earlier this year, Canada wants the $5 billion collected so far returned to its lumber producers. +
http://www.voy.com/178771/9219.html
Isn't it great that the new Conservative government just gets on with the business of governing without making a big fuss! I love it, concise, to the point, deliberate and determined.
Thanks maz2 for the info.
Posted by: Alberta Girl at March 30, 2006 8:46 PMAny chance we could have a blogoshpere dictionary to unravel the acronyms. Let's see, these ones I know:
MSM Mainstream Media
PMSH Prime Minister Stephen Harper
CPC Conservative Party of Canada
LPC Liberal Party of Canada
LGF Little Green Footballs (I think)
IMO In My Opinion
LOL Laugh Out Loud
CBC Canadian Broadcasting Corportation
CP Canadian Press
NDP New Democratic Party
BQ Bloc Quebecois
GST Goods and Service Tax
PST Provincial Sales Tax
What are the others?
Acronyms are GR-8, but only if your reader understands them.
I hate to ask, Kate, but any chance of a blog-dic as a sidebar to help us out?
Posted by: new kid on the block at March 30, 2006 8:57 PMLiberal concedes; Liberal Party in Wilderness Forty Years. No Moses in sight. +
Excerpt:
This kind of of action is indicative a larger picture emerging on the Canadian political landscape; decisiveness is something that will win a government support. Period. Check out the latest national poll which shows that the Tories have risen three percentage points, in spite of the Emerson/Fortier controversy, the all-out war that has been waged with the media, ethical breaches in the revolving door between the private and public sector, and the cancellation of billions in past Liberal funding promises.
And yet, we hear Liberal leadership candidates and the party faithful continue to profess that Stephen Harper is in trouble, and that it is a matter of time before his government will be defeated.
That is exactly the kind of attitude that is going to ensure a 5-6 year Tory reign, at the very minimum. Liberals have to wake up from this current political stupour.
People have hungered for an agenda for many years, and the absence of anything defined over the past 2 have given Harper a perfect platform to appear as a confident, visionary leader.
Unless this leadership contest turns into something a little more substantial than personality showdowns, vague policy platitudes, and party hackery, we are going to be in big trouble for some time to come. +
http://www.tdhstrategies.com/home.html
At http://www.acronymfinder.com you will find quick access to 2,976,000 definitions for acronyms. There are lots of other such sites, Google: acronym dictionary
Posted by: Vitruvius at March 30, 2006 10:17 PMAcronyms: ROTFLMAO : Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Ass Off.
Never lose your sense of humour.
Being a liberal supporter means smiling and waiting a lot. Be as inoffensive as possible. Saying nothing of substance because if you say anything real, it may be subject to criticism later. That may wrinkle your over blown ego. Better to say nothing but pretend you did say something.
Use these words a lot ... fundamentally, having said that, or that said ... and every once in awhile say that Canada is the greatest country on the planet. Try not to think of the USA when you say it.
You must be very compassionate about everything and anyone who is less that a rich bastard. At least until you get your liberal job or appointment so you can become a rich bastard too.
Believe that stealing other peoples money to sqandor is a good Canadian value. And if you have any NDP leanings, believe that no Canadian should have to work if they don't want to, but should still get enough of other people's money to live as well as they do.
Believe what the mainstream media tells you. And never, ever think for yourself.
Oh ya ... it helps to be not too bright or creative. Can't hurt to be gay or French either.
Does that sum it up well enough?
Posted by: Duke at March 30, 2006 11:21 PMMaude Barlow gives me pains where I don't have windows. She must have been hiding under a rock, as I haven't seen her for awhile. You know the old joke... what is the difference between Maude Barlow and a pitbull?.... Lipstick.
Maude, not only is abasive, but she oftentimes is so off base in analysis that she loses creditibility very quickly. She really should take up Bingo or bowling... anything at all to keep her out of the national scene.
just before the last election i phoned my mother in rural manitoba . i talked to her about how she was going to vote. she's 78 years old and has lost most of her eyesight. what i heard was harper is scary , extreme,has a hidden agenda , and she'll have to pay for health care . i don't suppose i have to tell you what tv station she gets .
Posted by: john demerais at March 30, 2006 11:45 PMThere is one new acronym in use lately
IRIB I'll run I'm Belinda
TIME mag just started it's voting thingy to help them select the most influencial person in the world for next years award. It's unbelievable.
http://tinyurl.com/ew4v3
Posted by: Duke at March 31, 2006 12:03 AMFrom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acronym ...
"The longest acronym, according to the 1965 edition of Acronyms, Initialisms and Abbreviations Dictionary, is ADCOMSUBORDCOMPHIBSPAC, a United States Navy term that stands for "Administrative Command, Amphibious Forces, Pacific Fleet Subordinate Command."
The world's longest initialism, according to the Guinness Book of World Records is NIIOMTPLABOPARMBETZHELBETRABSBOMONIMONKONOTDTEKHSTROMONT. The 56-letter initialism (54 in Cyrillic) is from the Concise Dictionary of Soviet Terminology and means "The laboratory for shuttering, reinforcement, concrete and ferroconcrete operations for composite-monolithic and monolithic constructions of the Department of the Technology of Building-assembly operations of the Scientific Research Institute of the Organization for building mechanization and technical aid of the Academy of Building and Architecture of the USSR."
Yee hah!
Posted by: Vitruvius at March 31, 2006 12:29 AMSTRUMPET: New Acronym
Shovelling Taxpayers Revenue Under Myopic Program Enhancement Theory
Like the strippers immigration policy under the Libs; enhancing the Status of Women by supporting gynaecology row down at the local pub.
Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at March 31, 2006 12:45 AMOnly eight letters, Hans? Hardly enters into it.
(Sorry, Hans, and Kate, I'm just havin' fun again, but, still, 54 letters? Wow. You learn something new every day, eh?)
Posted by: Vitruvius at March 31, 2006 1:00 AM"The world's longest initialism, according to the Guinness Book of World Records is NIIOMTPLABOPARMBETZHELBETRABSBOMONIMONKONOTDTEKHSTROMONT. The 56-letter initialism (54 in Cyrillic) is from the Concise Dictionary of Soviet Terminology..."
Good grief! No wonder the USSR split up. Note: this beastie was from their CONCISE Dictionary of Soviet Terminology. I would sure hate to see their DETAILED manuals. :))
Posted by: Joe Canuck at March 31, 2006 1:48 AMTheir detailed manuals sound like Maude Barlow!
Posted by: Vitruvius at March 31, 2006 2:17 AMWhat was the first thing commented on from the CBC when talking about the 3 amigos in Mexico. What PM Harper was wearing-his vest. Guess they thought they were covering her highness Adrianne.
They changed their tune a little when they had to admit that riding in the car with Pres Bush and then the copter had never happened before with a cdn PM. The two leaders had hours of one on one, again a surprise to our media. They were sure PM Harper would make a fool of himself but as usual they were wrong again. No wonder he wants to stay away from them in Ottawa. Every time Mr Harper appears in public or speaks he looks more prime ministerial. Cdns elected him on his 5 priorities. Who is maude or layton to tell him to back off and put their ideas into action. How long will garth turner last, he is saying that the finance minister has "borrowed some of his ideas" Notice he showed up with his own copy of what the budget should be. I also notice that TO is upset at the deportations, are they afraid they are losing voters. This might be a message to all undocumented workers in our country-quit voting liberal or go home. Hope the Khadars are next on the list to go.
Sorry to be disagreeable and disagree, MaryT, but Harper neither looked nor sounded "prime ministerial." To this non-partisan voter, he looked awkwardly dressed, and slightly out of place next to the others. If accepting rides from the POTUS is considered to be a major accomplishment, we are into Bush Lite indeed. And when three guys get together for two days to discuss issues, I would expect some one-on-one time.
Easy on the adulation, lest it be taken for blind partisanship.
Posted by: agitfact at March 31, 2006 8:27 AMOn Canada AM this morning - David Akin and the Canada AM hosts were all laughing at the prime minister for his vest and his belly and his being slow to climb the pyramids - so this is how they get back at him - how junior high!!
Posted by: Alberta Girl at March 31, 2006 9:11 AMThere is always a nagging pall of cautionary fear in the American MSM to really go after any presedent or regime regardless how corrupt or despotic. In a nation whose government can produce and maintain multiple "lone gunman" public hoaxes, the 4th estate is aware the administration has many bureaucratic and covert remedies for "trouble makers and snitches".... editorial caution is well founded. This has resulted in an American press that while mildly nagging an administration, largely mitigates the odiums it produces and has a memory that conveniently spans one week....they will call attention to the elephant's foul odors and that its trunk is in the public corn crib but neglect to inform the public that this out of control elephant is also crushing people under its feet and it deficates regularly on the constitution. As a whole the US MSM is a write-off if you want real informantion or insights into the civil atrocities of the expanding federal police state....
...Canada's MSM's limired vision is much worse as our MSM's lack of gumption to critically investigate and expose official corruption, duplicity and patronage cartel profiteering on all 3 levels is totally self-imposed and lock-step uniform. Our MSM has gone beyond the US MSM's policy of not "pissing off the boss too badly" to a policy of keeping a national pastoral utopian fairytale alive against the torrents of evedence/realities to the contrary. For every nebulose item on official skullduggery there are 10 items in our mainstream news that drips with surreal feel-good myth spinning and happy-face diversionary fluff. I feel its so bad it's at the point where it can put diabetics into a coma coping with all the saccharine sanctimonious utopian nationalist propagandizing.
Comparing the character of the two nations media (US-Canada) would be like comparing hollywood scripted reality-based TV to Mr. Dress-up.
Posted by: wlyonmackenzie at March 31, 2006 10:07 AMDuke - nice summation on being a liberal supporter!!
Agitfact - yeah, I'd prefer a PM with real sense of cutting edge style, rather than one that can maintain a professional relationship with the leader of our largest trading partner. (Sarcasm intended.)
Careful of the criticism, lest it be mistaken for blind partisanship.
agitfact said:
"And when three guys get together for two days to discuss issues, I would expect some one-on-one time."
Here is "some one-on-one time" brought to you by
Islamist terrorists. +
"Both men were at one point living with Syed's brother Nusrat Sheikh Aly
-- a suspected human smuggler wanted by United States Deputy Marshals.
It's now believed Nusrat Aly has fled the country."
Islam: The religion of the sword and "some one-on-one time". +
Canada : Pakistani extremist nabbed trying to flee
Winnipeg Sun ^ | March 31, 2006 | Sarah Kennedy
Posted on 03/31/2006 8:02:27 AM PST by Qaz_W
A known terrorist -- with links to al-Qaida and Osama bin Laden -- has been arrested in the Toronto-area trying to flee the country, say Sun Media immigration sources.
In one of the most significant terrorism arrests in Canada since Sept. 11, 2001, a man believed to be a captain of the Pakistani extremist organization Mujahadeen-e-Lashkar-e-Tayyba, or LET.
LET is funded by Osama bin Laden and has direct ties to al-Qaida. The man was arrested March 16 by Canadian border service officers in Newmarket, Ont.
Intelligence sources say members of the LET have been trained in Afghan terrorist camps.
Ontario immigration sources say 40-year-old Raja Ghulam Mustafa, a Pakistani national who went by the last name Murtaza, was arrested outside his home with a packed suitcase and a significant amount of cash.
Following the arrest, conducted by the Canadian border service's Greater Toronto Enforcement Centre officers, Mustafa's residence was searched and a briefcase containing fraudulent documents and a laptop were seized.
It's believed Mustafa may have been tipped off that GTEC officers were investigating him and he made plans to flee to the U.S.
Officials told Sun Media that Mustafa was "surprised" he was found by law enforcement. Sources say Mustafa had already given his landlady notice he would be leaving.
He is currently being held at the Toronto West Detention Centre.
In 1997, Mustafa was arrested on violations in the U.S. but was released on a peace bond after he filed a claim for refugee status.
During that time he fled to Canada under a false identity and was eventually able to secure refugee status.
BROTHER-IN-LAW
Mustafa moved to Newmarket to live with his brother-in-law Syed Maqsood Aly, a fugitive wanted in the U.S. for drug trafficking and fraud, say sources.
Both men were at one point living with Syed's brother Nusrat Sheikh Aly -- a suspected human smuggler wanted by United States Deputy Marshals. It's now believed Nusrat Aly has fled the country.
Canadian Border Services Association and Immigration and Refugee Board officials yesterday were keeping tight-lipped on the arrest. +
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1606846/posts
Alberta Girl said: "laughing at the prime minister for his vest and his belly and his being slow to climb the pyramids..."
Here is ex-PM Liberal Paul Who? [Martin] with his many-pocketed vest at the Bush-Fox-Paul Who? summit.
Paul Who? looks positively paunchy: LOLOLOL...
La cookaratcha, la cookaratcha.... gotcha, agit-fat. +
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050324/images/news_summit.jpg
Gabby in QC - Anne Dawson of CanWest News to Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation as Executive Director, Communications.
Don - Diefenbaker wasn't anti-American; JFK was his non-favourite Yank due to several major policy differences. Dief was alerted to a note by JFK calling him an SOB after the latter put out his back planting a ceremonial tree in Ottawa (and not "Happy Birthday Mr. President"?).
Maz2, of course I recall pics of Martin wearing the vest, but let me point out two differences. For one, Martin was about 20 years older than Harper, so may be granted a bit of flab. More tellingly, Martin kept the vest open, which diverted from the gut, while Harper buttoned the bottom of his vest, but only the bottom, which bloused the rest and emphasized his middle.
If I might, I'd suggest that PM Harper get a more combat-looking vest, with pockets to add fullness to the chest and divert from the middle, and then either button it all the way or let it drape open.
How's that for free partisam advice from a non-partisan! Factual criticism is not partisan, Kevin, and I don't think any of the points I mentioned were divorced from reality.
Posted by: agitfact at March 31, 2006 5:33 PM
Must be a Canadian male thing - my husband also wears one of those vests - he says he loves all the pockets.
I hope someone sends that picture to all the news outlets just to show them how stupid this whole thing is.
And agrifact - I actually think Paulie looks fat while Stephen looks less so.
Posted by: Alberta Girl at March 31, 2006 6:03 PMAll Harper has to do is get pants that fit. It looks like he has a 38 waist with 36" pants. Then he wouldn't need to wear a vest to hide the ponch.
He has to spend an hour in a good mens wear store to get clothes that fit and colours that coordinate. He just got a nice raise he should treat himself.
SDAs, rejoice! The Ottawa Citizen to-day editorialized about "Harper's Haberdashery," and concluded that "what matters is what Harper says and does, not what he wears."
The editorial pointed out that "Mr. Harper knows where his votes are, and they're not in the boutiques of Yorkville. They are ... in Moose Jaw, among people who don't particularly care whether Mr. Harper has a gut or a shirt made of precisely the right grade of Egytptian cotton ..." etc.
Is The Citizen part of the MSM?
Posted by: agitfact at April 1, 2006 9:47 AMAgitfact
Thanks for the sartorial advice. However the main point was that maintaining a professional relationship with the American administration, is much more important than his sense of style.
I have to admit that your comment is relevant in that the Prime Minister's appearance will play a role in the public's perception of him, after the last couple of bozos we've suffered through it did seem a little like nitpicking though.