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February 15, 2006

The Prince of Darkness

If this isn't the quote of the day....

"Words and images have the power to wound and hurt and, sometimes, kill."

Perhaps someone should remind Mr. Kinsella that Harry Potter is not a documentary.

Posted by Kate at February 15, 2006 12:32 AM
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Warren Kinsella is a bully from The Wild Duck
in This Duck’s opinion, of course. Far be it from This Duck to miss a tempest in a teapot. After all this “trial of the century” will turn on dueling expert opinions from Grade 10 English grammar teachers. According to PomoChristian,... [Read More]

Tracked on February 15, 2006 12:51 AM

Bloggers don’t sue Bloggers. from Generation Zel! Radio
End of story. But not really! One of the blogs I (as of after this post formerly) linked to, Warren Kinsella, has decided to slap Ottawa blogger Mark Bourrie with a defamation suit. To the tune of $600,000. Now herein lies the rub - No offence to Bouri... [Read More]

Tracked on February 17, 2006 9:03 AM

Comments

He is missing "fundamentally" and "the fact is"

Sticks and Stones...etc.

Posted by: Colin at February 15, 2006 12:42 AM

Mr.Sasparilla...you are now dead. That is the image I have of you...jerk. And since you have stated that is so...sue me..a**hole.

Posted by: Justthinkin at February 15, 2006 12:48 AM

Oh..and BTW..."Harry Potter is not a documentary"...good one Kate...Kinsella probably thinks Harry Potter is a biography of his hero...Perrier Elitist Trubadour.

Posted by: Justthinkin at February 15, 2006 12:52 AM

In the court of public opinion, Kinsella might have a rough ride...can I say that?

Posted by: Platty at February 15, 2006 12:52 AM

"laws prohibiting child pornography," and isn't he a follower of the same group that allowed a B.C. pedophile to propogate his kiddie sex pictures????

Posted by: Justthinkin at February 15, 2006 1:00 AM

Kate, your earlier post nailed the hypocrisy of Kinsella's & others posts/musings/articles on this.

Posted by: Candace at February 15, 2006 2:15 AM

Sounds like Mr. Kinsella is a whining crybaby who needs to get his butt whipped.

I'm coming to Canada in June, anyone know where he lives?

Posted by: Sailor Republica at February 15, 2006 3:07 AM

I'm astonished at Warren's unmitigated gall. This is a guy who made a living going around defamatorily innuendoizing others as racists and other sorts of monsters for the passionately hated Librano mob. This is the guy who'd attack people on the basis of religion for political gain. He used a stuffed purple dinosaur against someone's Christian religious beliefs (being Christian himself doesn't make it ok), yet he's far too pussy to post a simple image of Mohammed on his blog?

He can dish it out, but when others do it to him, he sues? Aw, fo'fecksake!

Just let him sue me. Let him try to get ANY money out of me after he helped the Libranos stay in power and go on to depress the Maritime economy to the point that I and many, many other university graduates have ended up grossly underemployed and shit-deep in debt! He's part of that gang, after all.

Let him sue EVERYBODY!

Let him drink beer and eat popcorn!

Fecking pathetic. Libranos, eh?

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at February 15, 2006 7:09 AM

"The Prince of Darkness"?
Puh-leeze.
More like the "Dork of Darkness".

Posted by: Lyle Bert at February 15, 2006 7:16 AM

Let's hope that Mark Bourrie of Ottawawatch gets the legal and financial support he needs.

What Kinsella is doing is called a "slap suit." The MO is for a weathlier, more powerful party to sue a party without resources to force them into a costly legal battle, with the idea of shutting them up or driving them to financial ruin.

Posted by: Mystery Meat at February 15, 2006 7:27 AM

Dr. Professor Mikhail Ignatieff, known to Vijay as "Iggy", has a diagnosis; the political milieu in which Kinsella, Guite, Dingwall, Chretien, Martin, et al,throve until their ouster has been labelled as "The Libranos"; sick Librano$$$$$$$$

Ignatieff says about this sick Liberal culture:

"There are aspects of our party that are sick as hell."

Ignatieff means, of course, the Liberal Party of Canada. >>>

Grits need uniting leader, Ignatieff says

.....
Over cold nachos, the world-renowned academic offered a sharp critique of his party and its recent tactics.

"We've got to stop this trite and shallow anti-Americanism" and avoid negative campaigning, he said.

"Our campaign ads were a disgrace, an insult to the intelligence of the Canadian voter. We went negative and we had no business doing that. We can't do that again.

"We should appeal to the best in Canadians and not the worst."

Ignatieff said finding an effective leader will be a challenge.

"There are aspects of our party that are sick as hell. We are a deeply factionalized and divided party. The test of things will be to find a leader who can bring us together." >>>
http://www.rapp.org/url/?24KWOHKE

Posted by: maz2 at February 15, 2006 9:12 AM

Wankin; warren has found morality eh? I don't know whether to laugh or fume at the toxic dose of hypocrisy that produces.

I'll never personally forgive Kinsella for turning the 2000 federal election into a scopes monkey trial where cinically scripted fear and loathing were heaped upon religious faith and western Canadians to manipulate Eastern bigotry. As a western Canadian this was my tipping point where I lost respect for federal politics and the federal system.

Frankly the little creep (Kinsella) disgusts me and I consider anything he touches to be covered with the same ethically corrupt slime he has lived in most of his devolved existance. He deserves zero credibility and the MSM which do use him as an "expert" lose public credibility by default. Kinsella personifies and appeals to the very darkest realms of the Canadian psyche.

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at February 15, 2006 9:31 AM

Sheesh, if the guy's gonna call me an anti-Islam bigot, he can at least give me a hyperlink!

Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at February 15, 2006 9:54 AM


Words won't kill him but "guilty" would hurt him.

Sueing bloggers for blogging ..invented by the librano$$$$
He's no punk, he's a shifty silverspooned crooked eastern librano$$$ lawyer.

Posted by: richfisher at February 15, 2006 10:03 AM

O/T Just heard on CBC that the Canadian Press is whinning that they do not like to secrecy of the Harper government. They have sent an offical letter of complaint. In my book good! Until these so called reporters that are paid by the Canadian taxpayers start reporting the truth and not bend it into a Liberal slant, keep them away from government. After all they were not elected to represent the people, I am finding it quite refreshing to have a government that believes that there should be some control in government!
Nine days, parliment has not even sat yet. They can wait until there is something to report!

Posted by: MaryM at February 15, 2006 10:20 AM

And another thing:

Who's the other bigot Kinsella's talking about? Cuz I wanna fight him for the Biggest Bigot title!

I'm pretty sure I can out quote 'im:

"You will be called racists. Get used to it. Make peace with it. But when you are called racist, remind your accusers that in the last 100 years, more Muslims have been tortured and murdered at the hands of other Muslims than at the hands of any foreign imperial power."

A great one by that notorious KKK Imperial Wizard, Irshad Manji.
http://www.muslim-refusenik.com/news/roim-olam-05-02-21.html

Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at February 15, 2006 10:40 AM

In the words can hurt category...

http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Alberta/2006/02/15/1443402-sun.html

Posted by: MolarMauler at February 15, 2006 10:47 AM

MaryM.....
right on. maybe they should go for a refresher course in reporting LOL

Posted by: spike at February 15, 2006 11:08 AM

Ed Morrissey of CAPTAIN'S QUARTERS has a very different take on the matter than yourself, Steve (see http://www.captainsquartersblog.com). He notes:

"[I]t appears that the entire fuss centers on the pronoun he and whether it refers to Guité or to Kinsella. Kinsella argues that Bourrie intended on defaming him as a "major player" in Adscam, but any reasonable reading of the passage appears to clearly reference Guité, not Kinsella, as such. And it isn't as though Kinsella had nothing to do with Adscam or Guité's role in it, although it was more minor. As the Gomery Report notes in one of its seventeen references to Kinsella, he arranged one of the more notorious meetings that made clear that Guité needed to cater to powerful Chrétién cronies....

"Kinsella stepped way out of line in attempting to order Quail to put Guité in charge of the advertising for the Sponsorship program -- and Guité eventually became one of the major players in the fraud that wiped out millions from Canadian taxpayers. It may not make Kinsella a major player in the controversy, but it hardly follows that tying Kinsella to Guité creates a libelous situation. Perhaps he didn't push to hire Guité, but the Gomery Report shows that Kinsella spent some effort in promoting him for the top spot.

"I expect that Kinsella will regret filing this lawsuit. His role in this scandal appears to have flown under the radar until now, and Bourrie's defense will have a field day answering Kinsella with these quotes."

Any rebuttal points?
Posted by: Stephen J. at February 15, 2006 09:50 AM >>>
http://www.stevejanke.com/archives/157711.php#comments

Posted by: maz2 at February 15, 2006 11:08 AM

This interview is invaluable to our side, Kinsella is the quintessential Liberal. Read his comments carefully,subdue your boiling outrage, get to know and understand your enemy. Some Liberal rules:
The leader of the Party is always right, (for public consumption, at least.) Never question the Party or the Leader. His truth today may differ from his truth yesterday, or his truth tomorrow, but nontheless, it IS the truth. (They borrowed that one from Bill Clinton)Any idea that works is a good one, morality notwithstanding.
Win. Period. History is written by the victors.

Kinsella is right about Conservatives not keeping their own house in order, example, all the hand wringing over Emerson/Fortier. A dutiful son/daughter does not question the Father,( or Godfather).
Political naivety is definitely a Conservative problem. As long as we continue to squabble among ourselves, we weaken our resolve,and increase their chances of coming back. To those of us who believe the Liberal Party is "finished", not likely. These guys have had setbacks before, ie the Mulroney era, and always come back stronger than ever. Underestimate the Natural Governing Party at your peril.

Now before some of you post your anger at my remarks, swear at me, take a deep breath, count to ten, or whatever it takes, and realize I have been following politics since 1960, and have seen history repeat ad nauseum. I don't claim to be an expert, just a dumb peasant with a fairly good memory. And I have observed, repeatedly, Conservatives crying,"how can people vote for these bastards". Listen to Liberals like Kinsella, and learn. If if may analogize to war, we are like the
Redcoats lined up smartly in battle formation, unfortunately, we are fighting the Vietcong.

Posted by: dmorris at February 15, 2006 11:44 AM

Me thinks the "low life of low light" has had his bluff called and is going to have some things brought up that he wasn't gambling on.

Posted by: Platty at February 15, 2006 11:45 AM

RE: "Harry Potter is not a documentary"...

Hahaha. really, really good one. snort

I wonder if Warren Kinsella would like to now concede that in the beginning there was The Word.

I read he is going to be the "media" critic for the National Post now.

He'll have no problem with the KISS formula employed by the MSM.

This lawsuit gets his name into headlines just before he makes a "big" career move.

As the Church Lady says, how convenient.

Posted by: no bozos allowed at February 15, 2006 12:03 PM

I'm temporarily declaring an end to the "Heh" Moratorium, just for the time it takes to post this, from today's Slate:

"Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make a newspaper columnist. Most columnists start off with a bag full of ideas and endless energy. But the job begins to weigh on even the most talented journalist. He starts writing columns about columns he's written, about his kids, or about the deaths of relatives. He composes columns as open letters to world leaders—or writes from inside their heads. He quotes cab drivers. His columns become more assertion than argument. Finally, he starts picking silly, protracted fights with other media machers..."

http://www.slate.com/id/2135552/

Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at February 15, 2006 12:30 PM

A cheap shot suit from a Librano in a cheap suit. What a crock of scheiss, that pathetic claim to victim hood mingled with the ever ready Librano response when losing an arguement- label your opponents racist.

Good luck Warren, you will need it.

Posted by: Hambone3000 at February 15, 2006 12:43 PM

Kathy - HEH!

dmorris: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,9,10, Heh! Bingo!


Posted by: PG at February 15, 2006 12:54 PM

9:50 am Just heard a CBC debate between Ezra Levant and the Ottawa Citizen publisher.

Ezra had iron clad arguments and shredded the Ottawa Ctizen Editor*s logic 3 ways to oblivion.

Fact is though, neither happened to hit upon the crux of the issue.

The crux is to feed the Jihad frenzy or not to feed the frenzy.

Levant would be much wiser to describe the cartoons as of poor quality and mild in nature and not worthy of publishing.

Levant could mention that anyone can see these cartoons all over the internet.

Levant can suggest the crux of this story is not the cartoons, but the incitement to riot in the most intense manner by the Fundamentalist Jihad network and Quatar*s Al-Jazeera TV and radio network.

Levant may wish to inform that the aim of this manufactured protest is to set back advances in peace and democracy in Afghanistan, Iraq and as usual, as for the past 32 years or so, Lebanon.

Every cartoon published provides a new target to the Emirs and mullahs in Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Lybia and I dare say Egypt and others.

Our guys under fire in Afghanistan and Iraq would prefer fewer cartoons, less incentive to the mad bombers in the house down the street. TG

Posted by: TonyGuitar at February 15, 2006 1:08 PM

Warren is a *Rigid Liberal*. His *Club* just lost the soccor game. Warren is miffed. He is in a bad mood and would like to lash out and hurt someone.

He is a lawyer, so that gives him an unfair advantage. Bully is a term used by many others here and that appears to fit.

Usually someone in the public spotlight, [just finished an interview with CBC*s Gomeshi about trashy music], tends to ignore insults from a little blogger guy.

Lawsuits of this type are more fitting of gaining justice from an MP, a CEO, a *Gomery* or someone with some weight in the public*s eye.

Who is Warren applying the sledge hammer of lawyer muscle to? Mr. little guy who?

I never did fall in with the cheering section following Warren about and this is another justification for standing clear. TG

Posted by: TonyGuitar at February 15, 2006 1:22 PM

kate: saw this over at Angrys'. I don't agree. Is this libelous? Talk to Kinsellas' lawyer, this might be good for a new Dodge diesel dually!
lol

"...Personally I don't consider SDA to be 1 of the big ones. Kate is a mouthy know-it-all that likes her ass kissed by about the 20 or so faithful that post there. Don't dare challenge her or someone will scream 'flame' and if you persist you'll get your server forbidden. Sheesh, what a pussy.

Steve rules! He can dish it out as well as take it. However, everyone should make sure there's good documentation to back up what they say."

Posted by: Ron at February 15, 2006 11:37 AM


Posted by: dmorris at February 15, 2006 2:04 PM

These little, *glove in the face* dramas are an entertaining facit to this bloodsite er blogsite.

As long as it stays light it's fun. We don't need any wet blanket heavies like Kinsella who fails to understand the fun of blogging. TG

Posted by: TonyGuitar at February 15, 2006 2:09 PM

That's a new one, eh?

People don't kill people, words kill people.

Kind of bizarre when you think about it. Poor Warren. He must be terrified all the time with all those words running around in his head threatening his personal safety.

Posted by: canadianna at February 15, 2006 2:19 PM

Just think of all the hours devoted to martial arts and self-defense training, when all we've ever needed to stop an attacker in his tracks is one of those secret "kill" words.

Posted by: Kate at February 15, 2006 2:45 PM

Abra Cadabra
Hocus Pocus

Bugs used these to great affect on a vampire.
They can also be mixed and matched.

And guys, please use them responsibly.

Posted by: Cal at February 15, 2006 4:11 PM

Apologies for the cross-posting from another comments thread on SDA (and also for the blatant self-promotion), but there seems to be a lot of discussion here about what constitutes libel/defamation and what are the available defences. I've spent a bit of time on this issue in real life so I posted a bit of a primer on Canadian libel law over at Cerberus for your reading pleasure.

Ted

Posted by: Ted at February 15, 2006 4:21 PM

Recall Martin: where is the jacket Buzz gave you, Martin, Jr. Was the jacket declared as a personal gift? Is the jacket not the property of the Government of Canada. Where is the jacket.

Recall Martin.

Martin says Emerson must call him, Martin, to explain Emerson's actions. Bawls to you, ex-Prime Minister P. Martin, Jr. Where is the jacket?

It's JacketScam!!! CAW, CAW, CAW, ... CAW.....

"He [Martin] also said he has not heard from his former cabinet minister even though Emerson said he would be calling Martin to explain his actions." >>>
http://www.rapp.org/url/?MJBKZJL6

Posted by: maz2 at February 15, 2006 5:13 PM

The Kinsella "legacy" continues...

Posted by: Knight of Good Mr. Iron Man at February 15, 2006 6:09 PM

Tory backbencher says he has the ammo to pull trigger on gun registry
By DAN DUGAS

OTTAWA (CP) - The Conservative government has created a committee of two cabinet ministers and a backbencher to figure out how best to kill the long-gun registry as soon as possible.

Registry critic Garry Breitkreuz, who is working with Justice Minister Vic Toews and Public Security Minister Stockwell Day, said he has been given wide leeway to deal swiftly with the registry.

"I wouldn't be fighting for what I'm fighting for if I didn't think that would be the case," the Saskatchewan MP said in an interview.

"We couldn't have had two better appointments because they're giving me the opportunities to put in place whatever is needed to stop the flow of money right now." (bangbang )
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Law/2006/01/29/1417150-cp.html

Meanwhile, back from his ranch in LaSalle-Emard, Cowboy/Farmer
Martin, Jr., has re-surfaced; Liberals CAW for Martin: re-CAW-ll Martin, re-CAW-ll Martin, re-CAW-ll Martin.... buzzzzzzzz

Martin slams Emerson
OTTAWA (CP) - Paul Martin has broken his post-election silence to blast former Liberal star recruit David Emerson for defecting to the Conservatives.

Posted by: maz2 at February 15, 2006 6:37 PM

Another interesting quote from The Prince of Darkness, which his wife should take note of:

"At the same time, the Internet has been a very damaging influence ? with the Clinton-Lewinsky thing, for example, which is something that had no business becoming as big a deal as it did."

When the Jihadists were doing all they could to get his attention, Slick Willy was pre occupied will the more pressing matter of getting his willy slick.

Posted by: Cal at February 15, 2006 7:08 PM

Since we are digressing sideways a little..

10WORDS
Well I am in over my head now. Recently registered a real .CA website. Actually paid out some money for it too. Not normal for this person with traces of Scot bloodline.

It is 10WORDS.CA and the name is HOME. Home will not work in search engines yet [too soon and not crawled] but 10WORDS works in Google and Technorati all right.

I thought they were good tag terms for a website. Nothing much comes before 10 as in 10words.

Zero does, but no one uses zero really. I was surprised that HOME was not registered in Canada.

http://10words.ca

In deep because I never did get into HTML much and the editor is not forgiving.
The site is ideal for business but it is a quasi-blogsite for now.

Any advice for a neophyte would be welcome. Now, off to investigate the term FTP account? TG

Posted by: TonyGuitar at February 15, 2006 7:52 PM

Hey Dawg I mean John Baglow what say you to this?

This is your homepage no?

http://www.magma.ca/~jbaglow/ it lists the Drdawg.blogspot.com web site.

"In this corner, "free speech" as an alibi for causing offence and discord in our own communities and around the world. In the other, those who argue that respect and decency should, at least sometimes, prevail; that "freedom of speech" is not an absolute, that freedom does not mean license.


I am, no surprise, in the latter corner."

How do you justify this stance with what appears to be your completely opposite stance on al -Jazeera that you provided under your true name John Baglow as recorded at the following URL-
http://can.mailarchive.ca/politics/2004-07/c11a458240f82097.html

> "During the first month after Sept. 11, al-Jazeera rebroadcast excerpts from
> a 1998 canned interview with Saudi terrorist Osama bin Laden dozens of
> times - sometimes several times in a day - in which bin Laden called on
> Muslims to kill Americans, Christians and Jews." -- Kenneth Timemrman,
> Insight on the News
> http://www.insightmag.com/main.cfm?include=detail&storyid=179940

"Gosh, how terrible--reporting the news. I'm old enough to remember watching Lee Harvey Oswald get shot about thirty times in a few days. Did this mean that CBS was promoting assassination? "

"Gosh how terrible...". You seem to think it fine for al-jazeera to deliberately give offense, to take license in the name of Free Speech. Why this seeming polar opposite stance? Is there a political motive behind this? Could your support of the Palestinian cause have anything to do with this?

Is the John Baglow of the above noted conversation the same John Baglow behind the infamous Dr. Dawg.. just askin is all.

Posted by: hambone3000 at February 15, 2006 7:55 PM

Ah, I have arrived. My first stalker. Answer to the bone's questions at my place somewhere (yawn). Nice firends you have, Kate. :)

Posted by: Dr.Dawg at February 15, 2006 11:05 PM

"I believe that words and images have power. Words and images have the power to wound and hurt and, sometimes, kill."
Warren Kinsella

This is absolute tripe.

This is the same as the addict that blames the substance they are abusing for their problem, but refuses to acknowledge the will their character lacks as the reason they continue to abuse.

The only power words and images have is that which the viewer gives them. Words and images are vessels for communication and, unfortunately, are subject to the interpretation of the viewer. The intent of the author is often missed as the perception of the audience is limited to their life experiences, education and upbringing. This is a reality we need to embrace if we are to learn to co-operate and co-exist.

Posted by: Jan Schaafsma at February 15, 2006 11:37 PM

'Guns don't kill people. Yelling "bang" kills people."

Posted by: Kate at February 15, 2006 11:53 PM

Hang down your head John Dawg Baglow. Examine your own behavior before labelling someone a stalker you hypocrite. You are not difficult to track ggiven that you leave your comments all over the blogosphere often with the plea to cisit your site. We will meet whenever and wherever hypocrisy such as yours needs to be exposed. Have a nice day.

Posted by: hambone3000 at February 16, 2006 6:47 AM

Insulting Mama Teresa! $$$$$$$$$$$Libs insult Mama Teresa, Ottawa ristorante. Meet in Italian ristorante in Toronto. >>>>


Liberals plan bash to honour Copps
Dubbed 'an evening of the peacemakers'


Two senior Liberals went to dinner at an Italian restaurant in Toronto last week where they hatched a plan to heal their shattered party.
http://www.rapp.org/url/?S15SBLIU


[PDF] Public hearing Audience publique The Honourable Justice [Gomery] / L ...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
THE HON. A. GAGLIANO: I think that’s an insult to. Mama Teresa. ... way, Mr. Gagliano. At Mama Teresa, in what capacity did Mr. Guité meet. with you? ...

Posted by: maz2 at February 16, 2006 8:27 AM

Onus? Says Graham. Willy passes the onus to Bloc/NDP. Onus? What's an onus, Willy? >>


Poster: B. Graham


Liberals unwilling to prop up Harper
Graham says onus now on Bloc and NDP to support Conservative minority
CAMPBELL CLARK

OTTAWA -- Opposition Leader Bill Graham said he will not be afraid to defeat Prime Minister Stephen Harper's minority Conservative government, even though the Liberal Party will spend much of the year in a leadership race.

Mr. Harper must either accommodate Liberal positions on key issues such as child care and income-tax cuts or turn to the New Democratic Party and Bloc Québécois for support in the House of Commons, Mr. Graham said in an interview with The Globe and Mail.

HA HA HAAAAAAAAAA HA HA HA HA! What total false bravado! There is no way in hell that the libs will let this government fall for at least a year. Everyone knows that. Isn't it amazing how a liberal can lie so easily? >>>
http://www.voy.com/178771/134862.htm

Posted by: maz2 at February 16, 2006 8:58 AM
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