Deep, deep, deep; the left liberals have drilled deeper into the underground; Styx is the river they will cross lastly: & more:

Styx (River)
by Michael Dawson
The river of which many know its name, without knowing its origin or what it really stood for. A river that separates the world of the living from the world of the dead. Styx it is said winds around Hades (hell or the underworld are other names) nine times. Its name comes from the Greek word stugein which means hate, Styx, the river of hate. This river was so respected by the gods of Greek mythology that they would take life binding oaths just by mentioning its name, as referenced in the story of Bacchus-Ariadne, where Jove "confirms it with the irrevocable oath, attesting the river Styx."

There are five rivers that separate Hades from the world of the living, they are:

1. Acheron - the river of woe;
2. Cocytus - the river of lamentation;
3. Phlegethon - the river of fire;
4. Lethe - the river of forgetfulness;
5. Styx - the river of hate. >>>
http://www.pantheon.org/articles/s/styx_river.html
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The Ummah Reviews the Latest Murder Video

Peek under the rock at British radical Islamic discussion forum ummah.com and you’ll get a glimpse of the UK’s terrorist subculture, as these Muslims watch snuff films and praise the work of mujahideen snipers: Juba Video - Ummah.com.

Before September 11 and for a short while afterward, these same kinds of discussions could also be found on US web sites like ClearGuidance and Soundvision, but the subculture has gone deeper underground in this country after being exposed. >>> LGF

Kate, I know I read the "...chewing through my own forehead." citation somewhere but I failed to link it. Could you attribute it for those of us who are a little slower?

I don't understand - Why would this person "chew through their own forehead" before voting Democrat??

When I came home from the Laurie Hawn's campaign office just pumped on Monday night, I downloaded on my nearly 17 and 25 year old sons. I was shocked to hear my 16/17 year old's response - now we'll be like a little America, and how awful it was to live next to the U.S., now there won't be Kyoto, George Bush is an idiot, if there were no abortions, wouldn't we have overpopulation?

Since he's gone to either private Protestant or public Catholic schools all his life, and it's diametrically opposite to what I believe, I'm going to pay a visit to a certain Social 20 teacher soon.

Thankfully my 25 year old was as shocked as I, and advised him that Canada has to bring in hundreds of thousands of immigrants to stay economically viable, and that wealth distribution is the real issue with overpopulation, not infanticide.

Then the older asked the younger Which country he'd rather live beside, other than the U.S. I'm now keeping the younger updated on the rantings of the Hamas over in Palestine, a most unlovely country to live beside.

On Bush, maybe not the brightest bulb in the box according to the elder. My comment - at least he's got courage of conviction in moving the judiciary to the right.

I was particularly proud of the elder's Kyoto response. Emphatically he explained that Kyoto is firstly useless because it does not include the three worst polluters - the U.S., Russia and India. Second, there's an arbitrary date set - 1990 or so, for pollution levels, which is the period of the falling of the Berlin wall, about the time when global pollution was at its worst, so it's a usless standard. Third, Canada only produces about 2% of the world's pollution, so even if we eliminated all of our pollution it wouldn't make a real difference. Fourth, the two polluting industries in Canada are the Ontario auto industry and Alberta oil and gas industry. Since the auto industry was in the federal Liberal's begging books, they were exempt, so that leaves the Alberta oil and gas industry as the scapegoat for all of Canada's pollution problems. Fifth, if an industry pollutes, all Kyoto says is that you can pay a poor country for the right to pollute in your own country (called buying credits), so all that happens is the profits from these companies goes to another country, for basically charity. It's global wealth re-distribution, not pollution control.

When someone whines about Harper's stand on Kyoto, the elder asks them to explain Kyoto to him, and they never can.

So - all this to say I've been inspired to write seriously on "Conservatism for High School Students". I have to figure out the venue, but that's my new goal. The net can work for the right as well as it has for the left.

Go Kate Go!

I've decided to get back into serious writing, but will wri

Lesson #1 on blogging - hit preview!

Ahem,

Regarding this line:

"My tastes in music and movies and entertainers are a lot more New York and LA than they are Nashville or Branson."

I hate to say it. The 'music' of LA to me is predominantly 3 chord popular chud flung by half-naked jail-bait abused children like Hillary Duff and what's her name....the one that got fat....Brittany Spears :)

At the street level in LA I picture those hip-hop dudes driving around in Lincoln Navigators or Honda civics depending on their nationality.

My friends in Nashville tell me the scene there is dominated by Christian music and it's take on the pop music scene.

So you see, stereotypes of big cities and little cities are completely held by the people who live anywhere but there.

Anybody thinking Kyoto is a good idea should read State of Fear by Michael Crichton (yes, it's a novel but a well researched one that makes the "science" behind Global Warming understandable). Frankly there are much worse problems in the world to throw billions and billions at than the potential of the world warming up a couple of degrees at best.

People are so friking conceited to think that we can control nature anyway... we haven't gotten it right yet. If you go back in recent geologic times the world was much warmer than it is today even if you do accept that Man is having a significant impact on the environment.

I'm with Kate on the chewing my forehead off before voting for most democrats. I feel the same way about some on the republican side as I'm much more of a social liberatarian too. Frankly, I think Harper's got pretty close to the right mix... except, I'd drop the whole ssm thing. It's done.

marilyn burns....thanks for your post...learned something I did..
if liebrals have to ignore the "looney left" to govern do the Conservatives have to ignore the "far right" if they wish to govern???

Maps Onburt...we are past the tipping point of worrying about Kyoto accords etc...we just have to figure how to survive.

Whoops! Forgot the Vodkapundit link. Fixed now.

Who are these "far right"? From where I sit, the far right that the let points to today have ideals and values consistant with those of my grandparents, and I'll challenge anyone to show me a generation that built more, with less.

Canada doesn't have a far right do they?

I would have to guess that the 'far right' the liberals talk about are probably not even "fence-sitters" to the rest of the world.

Boy, if we did develop a far right the liberals would probably threaten to move to the USA. And you know how fond they are of the USA.

Marilyn Burns,

Actualy Kyoto says even less than that. A country faces no penalties for missing its targets (like Canada is). Its pure gesture politics, enabling a government to say they are commited to do something about global warming without actually doing anything.

In the long run however it may very well be companies that have positioned themselves early to be effecient and clean consumers of energy gain an economic advantage over those that didn't. Just compare the state Japan's automotive industry to ours for instance.

Canada doesn't have a far right in any meaningful sense. There are even a few Democrats in the USA who are further to the right on Harper on things like Health care and abortion for instance.

Canada does have people who have strong right-wing beliefs, but because of how the media (and 'mainstream' Canadians) react to statements they make they have become disenfranchised and are not really politically active anymore; If you had a person (who was running for a political office) say "I believe that creationism should be taught in schools" or "I belive that Baby rape should be legal" I'm pretty sure the creationism statement would recieve more press and be part of more conversations. (I personally disagree with both these statements BTW)

I guess you could say this boils down to the definition of "tolerance" by the major parties in Canada; the Conservatives would probably define tolerance to mean "The act of allowing a person to express themself (or live their life) in a way which you disagree with", the Liberals/NDP would define tolerance as "The act of embracing the lifestyle of a group of people who are of political value". Because Liberal/NDP voters only "tolerate" people of political importance they can freely discriminate against Jeudo-Christians, or Pro-Life people.

Kyoto may be "meaningless" to Canada, under her constitution, but here in the US, if we failed to meet our targets, some federal judge would start ordering changes, and we would have to make them. Whatever the cost to the economy. It was a federal judge who imposed an income tax in Kansas, for instance, as a remedy for school segregation.

Once we ratify a treaty, it is as if we had changed our constitution. The US is a nation of laws, and we don't have the ability to pretend we didn't sign it, like those who have signed it apparently do.

Well evidently you all forgot how well we did on the prohibition of alcohol. This is the worse choice our government ever made. The US with its war on drugs which started with Nixon in 1968 is spending $69 billion every year to fight this war. They have not stopped one person from using drugs and created a large under ground industry. What’s worse is that our children are losing respect for authority. The war has been based on propaganda that has been disproved by science. To win this war we would have to resort to the tactics of the Taliban who cut the growing of opium poppies to its lowest ever. The more money that people can make on drugs the more you can corrupt the authorities. Every year we charge more and more with drug offences and the problem grows. But how long did it take to cut down the numbers of smokers and how much did it cost?

Did you know that this is also the most racist law, equal numbers of each race use illegal drugs but it’s the people of colour that end up in our jails.
If by any chance you want to educate yourself a little read what the Drug Cops, Judges and Lawyers have to say about their years of battle in this war http://www.leap.cc/

I am writing about a political party that was formed in Calgary Alberta by a bunch of evanglists and disgruntled rural Westerners. Stating that Eastern Canadians didn't understand them, this group felt they had no choice but to start a new political party.
The party, largely run by protestant ministers, failed to really capture the imagination of all Canadians. So, they merged with another party and came up with a new name. They decided to recruit a provincial politician from out west to lead this "new" party. The leader they chose was a minister who had a hard time seperating church and state. This man, who studied in the United States, wrote his M.A. thesis on uegenics, inwhich he stated he felt homosexuals were morraly deficient and that they should be removed from society and placed in state run farms. This minister/political-leader often quoted the bible in his political speeches, using scripture to justify his policies and political decisions.

Do you think you know who I am writing about? Well, you are probably wrong! It's NOT the Reform Party! It is the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation! Later the New Democratic Party! The CCF was formed in Calgary in 1932! The Leader brought in from provincial politics is not Stockwell Day, but Tommy Douglas!
As we all know Tommy was a baptist minister, but the left does a wonderful job of hiding his beliefs. Tommy's thesis, "The Mentally and Morally Subnormal Family" is one piece of literature that the NDP will never have on their website. It can be found at McMasters University in Ontario. You can also find a copy in the Saskatchewan Archives in Regina, SK.

Now what is the problem with Stephen Harper saying "God Bless Canada"?

Far Left and Far Right:
These labels should refer to the relationship between the individual and the state. In standard useage Far Left is OK in that the further you move left of centre the more you favour the state over the individual with communism as the endpoint. However, the Far Right label is problematic in that to be accurate and symmetrical far right should really mean no state at all,i.e., anarchy, NOT fascism. Notwithstanding those idealistic western communists of the 30s who went off "heroically" to fight fascism, at root they are really the same; both are totalitarian, different only in superficialities (ownership of the means of production vs. total control of the means of production; same thing really).

This is not mere semantics. Fascism and commuunism belong TOGETHER on any sensible ideological spectrum (think Coke and Pepsi). But in common useage when lefties demonize people like Harper they are basically arguing that if you refine Harper -- make him more and more Harperlike -- your endpoint is fascism, i.e., scary Stephen. This is, as suggested above, completely wrong.

Therefore, "rightists" should probably contrast their ideologies as individualism vs. statism or maybe devolutionism vs. central planning.

I first became acutely aware of this confusion when an angry liberal friend intimated that my views if taken further out lead to KKK and Naziism. He was not thinking clearly of course --most liberals don't think anyway, only emote.

But it made me think long and hard about those labels and how successful the left has been with the far right smear.

The really "scary" thing is that people could seriously consider Stephen Harper, a lover of liberty and limited government, "scary".

Trent: "Now what is the problem with Stephen Harper saying 'God Bless Canada'?"

Nothing at all, the only "problem" I have is it isn't original. Sounds too much like Bush.

Instead maybe say "God keep our country glorious and free" to quote a known, uh, phrase.

Next does it mean we resort back to the God who our forefathers found this country on, or the new small "g" 'god' which runs in social programs and liberal dichotomy.

But, indeed, God bless Canada, for we are in such an amoral mess liken to a ship without a rudder heading for the rocky crags.

And all the squeaking from the liberal left about being a religious bigot or scary won't help.

cheers
tom

The visual of someone gnawing through their own forehead ... Heheheee! Love the visual! Love it!

Here's another log into the left/right flames of debate.

I'm sitting here with the Alberta Social Credit Party Constitution in front of me. Remember them? The Party that ran Alberta until take over by the PC's in the 70's?

Here some really interesting exerpts:

2. The objects...
a) To honour the following principles:

i) The individual is the most important factor in organized society, and as a divinely created being, with both spiritual and physical potentials and needs, has certain inalienable rights which must be respected and preserved;

ii) The major function of a democratic government in organized society is to secure for the people the results the people want from the management of their public affairs as far as such results are physically possible and morally right;

iii) Security with freedom. Material security alone is not enough. Each individual must be secure in the knowledge that he or she is worthy, respected, equal and free, and that the freedom to choose one's destiny is an inalienable right;

iv) Whatever is physically possible and desirable and morally right, should be made financially possible.

c) ...Aims and Objectives
ii) To establish responsible and effective democratic government in Alberta;

iii) To expose and oppose any attempts to weaken the democratic sovereignty and the democratic intitutions of the people by means of increased centralization of power;

iv) To oppose any attempts to spread or implant the seeds of racial discrimination, class hatred or religious intolerance...;

v) To obtain the economic security which the vast resources of Alberta can provide for its citizens;

vi) To make poverty and privation totally unnecessary;

vii) To secure freedom from oppressive debt and taxation;

x) To foster, advance and promote the attainment of a humanitarian society within the framework of a realistic and responsible free economy.

I feel like I've uncovered long lost Dead Sea Scrolls.

Yeah, was thinking that too Marilyn. Sounds almost too good to be true.

Hopefully Alberta, and the rest will pick up on it and once again it will be 'fashionable' to have integrity as part of one's portfolio.

cheers
tom

Sam, WTF kinda American are you? The only ones of us who use "colour" are Canadian and Brit wannabes. (Well, maybe you're trying to play by the "home team" rules here or something.)

BTW, for those of you who don't know, Zell Miller isn't even a Democrat anymore, he's a former senator from Georgia who retired in 2004 and spoke at that year's Republican convention. So, one less decent Democrat . . .

Marilyn Burns

Most of your comments on Kyoto are correct.

However, there are some other points you should consider:

Kyoto is not a clean air treaty.

It pretends, under the auspices of an United Nations Bureaucracy, to control the carbon dioxide (CO2) concentration of the atmosphere, and contrary to efforts by the Liberal Government to have CO2 ‘legally’ declared a ‘pollutant’, it is not. {If power generation from fossil fuels can be controlled by moral suasion and some form or taxes to be distributed from wealthy countries to the less wealthy – probably through the UN – at least the administrators of the wealth transfer will be well compensated).

In all Great Lies, there must be some element of truth: CO2, like many gasses, adsorbs infrared radiation (IR) (heat). It adsorbs only two rather narrow wave lengths of the IR spectrum. It is completely transparent to most of the spectrum. CO2 heat adsorption accounts for 5% to 3% of the total greenhouse effect (GHE).

The current concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere is 0.038% or ~380ppm (parts per million). Interestingly, the present concentration of CO2 adsorbs almost all of the heat available in the wave lengths that it can absorb. Doubling CO2 concentration will not double the contribution of CO2 to the GHE.

The most important gas contributing to the greenhouse effect is water vapour; it is responsible for almost all the GHE not attributable to CO2.

There is evidence that the world is warming, but from causes other than evil CO2 emitted by developed countries (at the obvious expense of ‘the developing world’, as any left-wing ‘thinker’ in their self-righteous moral panic will be glad to tell you).

The real cause of global warming (GW) is the Sun. The energy out-put of the Sun varies with time: Historically we have written records of the Roman Warm Period (~100 BC to ~400AD) which was followed by the Dark Ages, the Medieval Warm Period (~1000 – 1350), the Little Ice Age (most severe between ~1600 and 1850), and now we are entering the Modern Warm Period.

This is a natural cycle in which warm period are beneficial and cold periods are accompanied by miserable weather, crop failures, plagues, and civil distress.

This natural cycle is unrelated to CO2 concentration in the atmosphere. There is geological evidence to support the cycle back through millions of years. The fact that the ‘ice’ caps on Mars are observed to be melting is easily understood if increased solar activity is taken into consideration. Certainly there has been no anthropogenic CO2 contribution to the Martian atmosphere.

You can find a wide-ranging discussion of Kyoto and the flawed ‘science’ that ‘supports’ it at friendsofscience.org.

If Mr Harper considers the real science of climate change and withdraws from Kyoto, it will be greatly to the advantage of all Canadians.

I am appalled that there are people in the Government of Canada who have the arrogance to believe they can control the weather by passing laws, rules, and regulations. I am also astounded at the gullibility of our bureaucrats and policy-makers in being hood-winked by this environmental movement fantasy.

Ceart: Maybe the Governments aren't gullible. It is just another way to setup a NEP II against Alberta and get loads of tax dollars, seeing AdScam was uncovered.

Arrogance, true, gullible, no. As much as Bush bashers throw dust and dirt in the air and scream running around in circles, I'm glad he stood his ground, otherwise we'd be in a deep recession by now.

Same with the UN. The oil-for-food thing with Saddam was a scam (hey that rhymes). So having that being discovered, the UN pigs-at-the-trough need another source of income.

cheers
tom

Guys,

With everyone talking Kyoto I just wanted to mention something.

The other day I took my child out to enjoy a fabulous day. We were met with smoke. Bad smoke. Smoke wafting across the entire city in a giant white cloud. After a call to the fire department we were told it was a "controlled burn" just outside of the city. Guess what, I'm on the entire other end of the city! Where the heck is the Green Party candidate during this???

We were gasping and coughing. The smell even made it's way into the house, how I don't know. Through the airlock???? It was strong. I had clothes on the line that I had to send to THE DRY CLEANERS because I couldn't get the smell out.

Bottom line, Martin you bastard, is that you can sign any meaningless piece of crap you want, but you can't change the minds of idiots who have had their whole lives to pollute a nation bigger than they are.

Send a copy of that Kyoto piece of trash to the farmer who thought it was OK to burn hay bales with a wind blowing into town....makes me sick.

Sam: What is your evidence that the war on drugs has not stopped one person from using drugs? I trust that it has stopped more than one person. It reminds me of a comment I recently heard about the war on terrorism. We may never win, but the result of doing nothing is far worse.

Peter: The left/right dichotomy really is about the relationship between the state and the individual. It's taken me a while to figure this out, and it's not always black and white - on some issues there's shades. It strikes me that in Canada and the U.S., when the left can't get what it wants, mainly on moral issues, it mounts a lobby with the government in power and cloaks it as an "individual right", which results in those who disagree with the move losing their individual rights and freedoms, be it a loss of financial freedom because they have to pay for this new "right", or a loss of freedom of speech to express dissent.

Ceart: You're some kind of genius, right?

"marilyn burns" Did you go to the site I posted, this site is run by cops judges and lawyers who for years have been fighting the war. They tell of their personal experiences how the war started with Nixon and how because of the money everyone is tempted to get involved. They would lock some big time dealers up and they could tell if they did a good job because of the war over the turf the next day. Go to the site the have free video with them telling their story about how it’s the most racist’s law ever made. How’s this, the percentage of people using drugs is about the same in every race, but the majority of people in jail for drugs are of colour.

http://www.leap.cc/

Check them out. if you want the facts and nothing but the facts

Ceart on cear,

I'm familiar with the fluctuating sun energy theory. Its true that the sun's energy does fluctuate but this has been thoroughly discredited as the cause of the hockey stick. The theory doesn't a single peer reviewed study (press releases by think tanks don't count) to support it.

If anything the amount of solar energy the earth has been recieved has diminished slightly in recent decades due to the obscuring effects of pollution.

The Kyoto Accord was authored by Maurice Strong. That should be reason enough to be suspicious of it.

http://www.afn.org/~govern/strong.html

Kate,

I'm surprised that you would be disparaging Kos. Whether you like it or not, the Canadian right and American left blogosphere are really kindred spirits. You and Angry are the Kos and Atrios of Canada. All of you play an important role in making like-minded people aware of the failures, excesses and arrogance of power in the other party that aren't properly documented in the MSM. (The American right blogosphere tries to do that too, but it doesn't quite work when Democrats aren't in power, and you'll have that same problem soon.) What sets people like you apart from most of us sensible types is that we want the dirt on everybody, and you folks will try to minimize anything that puts your side - the right or left party - in an unfavorable light. (I will bet you a doughnut that the first time there's a hint of scandal in the Harper government, you'll be trying to minimize it.) I can read you, and read Kos, and I'll see exactly the same words but with the names changed. So both of you are necessary in the search for truth. Don't be hatin'.

All these neatly labeled compartmentalizations of so-called right of center politics comes from one source...the left.

If you let your political/ideological opponents define you, define your politics, you are defeated before you take your ideals into the marketplace of ideas.

I reject all the political labels the left and MSM hand out. Frankly speaking, the so called left( defined as assorted collectivist and statist secularists)is far too ambivilent in their own narrow doctrine to have the intellectual credibility to make qualitative ideological assessments of those who dissent to their world views.....particularly with pompous definitopms are rendered as to what is "right", "Right wing" or "Far righ" or ( my personal favorite misdirect) "ultra right"...these labels are as vacant as the assumed intellectual credibility to decide which side of the alleged political spectrum is "Canadian" and which is "unCanadian".

Never allow your principles to defined for you...the so called "right wing" is just a secular collectivist-statist compartmentalization and estrangement of the aggregate Canadian population which do not fall in lock step behind urban Canadian secular statist socialism.

Oooooooh, this safire is gouood. Wish moi had writ it... would get $ for this satire....

Panic in Area 416

Excerpt:

uprising when The Youth realize that nobody cares about them. It will be very bad. This is a war crime.

I could only nod my head sadly and stir my cane sugar slowly into my cup with the Liberal Party silver spoon.

Let me show you, said Doctor Bran, after we had finished our latte and shared some salmon steaks, caviar, and artichoke heart salad. He turned on the surveillance camera for the small, cramped room that acted as the public section of the Free Clinic. I was saddened that the responsible, but tight fiscal policy of the Liberals had only allowed such a small public area.

The film was grainy at first, then: A Looter-Canadian came into the clinic. The date stamp on the video said that it was three in the morning. The poor man was dressed in the uniform of despondency ... pants around his butt (the lack of a belt symbolic of poverty), his hat worn sideways (symbolic of the hurt of a rejected, but vibrant sub-culture), and gold chains of poverty around his neck. He pounded on the bullet proof window and the Night Receptionist Assistant Trainee came to the glass.

""Yo, beotch. Sum whi' ho dun cal me'uh N*****"" he said in the poetic melody of Jane-Finch Looter Ebonic. He pounded on the glass again with his Krupp-und-Skoda nine millimeter.

The poor oppressed man, I blurted, he lives in such fear of the rampaging Toronto Police and the Canadian Army that he is forced to carry a gun when he goes out at three in the morning! But what of this mysterious 'N' word? >>>
http://www.voy.com/178771/127066.html
(Satire courtesy of http://mitchieville.blotspot.com)

Great. Another "I'm really not a racist, homophobic, anti-woman bumpkin, but gosh darn it I'll have to vote that way" blogger.

If Democrats are doomd then consider the likely demise of our errant Liberals.

Renewal of the Liberal Party?

First, the question of facing the courts. A minimum of 10 $billion of our money has been syphoned off. Liberals should pay fair penalties for that.

Starving health care and education to create a surplus does not imply the right to stuff your pockets with some of that budget surplus.

If our justice system were not stuffed with Liberal shills, I may have had hopes for fair justice. 34$million in debt and who knows how much in penalties and fines that may also become due.

Another way to penalize and minimize Libranos is to throw support to the Greens.

20 seats for the Green party in the next election at Liberal and NDP expense would be very good for Canada.

Message to Liberals: You are infested with crooks. Those crooks must be seen to walk the plank, otherwise you can not expect to regain Canadian voter respect.

Liberal popularity is still spiraling downward and that will continue as the public learns of the full list of crimes.

List of 218 *Low Points*, Toronto Sun by Linda Williams
January 22nd

Different list of 200+
BendGovernment

Canadians were aware of Adscam and a scam here and there. Wait for the backlash when they learn about the much wider scope of fraud these lists represent.

When the MSM*s fear Harper trick is better understood, there should be a backlash there also.

Rocky roads ahead for Liberals. TG

Sam,

Sorry, I haven't had time to get back to you until now.

Respectfully, I can't embrace the mindset of the authors of the website you referred us to, although it does make some valid points. I do not agree that providing needles to addicts is ok - frankly, I think it's assisted suicide.

Just because this website is written by lawyers and judges (who are lawyers), doesn't automatically inspire credibility for me - I'm a lawyer and I disagree with much of what I read respecting the opinions stated on the website, with the caveat that I did not read through the entirety of it. Bear in mind that the only reason I go to court is because I disagree with a lawyer on the other side of a matter. As well, I'm a conservative, and there are plenty of liberal lawyers.

I've heard the argument for regulating rather than criminalizing drugs, and it fails in my mind, because criminals will not be regulated, as, for example, the failed the Canadian federal gun registry that, in my opinion, is just a work site safety program for criminals. Drug dealers will simply undersell the nice dope shop owners.

I don't believe in locking people up and throwing away the key for sure. But let's get real. These guys aren't selling pansies.

Are the cops coming down harder on non-whites in the States? I don't know. I do know that the aboriginal kids up here in Alberta hardly have a chance. Elders of native bands are crying for help for their kids. We want tougher laws and enforcement up here.

Marilyn Burns, "Drug dealers will simply undersell the nice dope shop owners."

As a dope smoker I'd much prefer mild, high-indica grass grown outside to hyrdroponic skunk. I think a majority of dope smokers would probably agree with me.

Skunk is produced for reasons that have everything to do with maximizing concentrations of THC while minimizing the usage of space/energy, etc. In all other respects its an inferior product to what you could grow if you were freed from the considerations of growing and dealing it illegaly.

As a dope smoker...

Which came first, the dope smoking or the left/liberalism?