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January 23, 2006

E-Day

Michelle Malkin is doing a nice job of sending her sizable audience to get the latest in Canadian election coverage.

Poll closing times have been staggered to minimize the lag time between east and west coast results, however, if you're looking for an advance peek at regional returns, I'm told Captains Quarters will be liveblogging.

I currently don't have plans to be online - I'm planning on a night out with a few friends in front of a big screen tv with a beer in my hand. But if I can get a hookup for my laptop, I may get a post or update in.

The comments thread will also be open. See above - I won't be here to police things, so behave yourselves, and don't feed the inevitable trolls.




650 CKOM will be posting results on their website as soon as Sask polls close. The little map should update automatically as the night goes on.

A final note - I am making no predictions whatsoever. I don't know that it's really possible for any pollster to predict how votes may split, or the effect of a dismal campaign on a disappointed Liberal base. I'm content to just wait and see, and keep my fingers crossed for my own CPC candidate, Carol Skelton.

One final reminder to those who will be watching live - early returns tend to favour urban results. In ridings with urban/rural splits, the rural (conservative leaning) polls tend to come in a little later and in many cases, early leads by the left are overtaken. The trend isn't as strong as it was some years ago, due to better communcations, but it still exists.

Other links I've been sent in the past week: ( I have no idea what they plan on doing - perhaps just sharing their emotional highs and lows...)
BBS
Vectorsphere
Decisioncanada2006.
Econoline
Publius Pundit.
Uncle Meat
Surly Beaver

Send your trackbacks, and comments, but I do advise Canadian bloggers not to overtly break the ban on posting results directly.

Also - judging by the google generated traffic, there's a chance the server's going to get slammed by this evening. Try to do your part by taking it easy on the reloads when reading comments.

And while we wait, a thoughtful piece by Pieter Dorsman on the future of the left in Canada.

Update: Kate Foxworthy moment: When you're working as a scrutineer at a polling station and some guy rides up in a sled and votes in a full face helmet and gear - and everyone knows who he is - you might be in Saskatchewan.

Posted by Kate at January 23, 2006 1:28 PM
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Comments

The trolls can "troll"-off. Here are my predictions. This is being run like election '84, and the polls were about the same then. It ended up being the largest majority government in Canadian history. Who do you think is the adviser in this campaign? It ain't PET. So here are my estimates: Tories: 211, Grits: 40, NDP: 42...wait just a minute here...

Posted by: Chris at January 23, 2006 1:59 PM

Take the night off Kate... I think you've more than earned it! Have one for me woodja? I gotta work tonight. Friday...WooooHoooo!

Posted by: Snookie at January 23, 2006 2:01 PM

Last night I felt like it was Christmas Eve.
Today I feel just like I did in my younger years sitting in the hospital waiting room, smoking cigarettes and nervously waiting for my kids to be born.

BTW the ballots in my riding weren't at all confusing. There is only four candidates and under each name it is clearly marked Conservative, Liberal, NDP or Green Party. So even if you are terribly uninformed and don't know the name of the person representing your party, you can still vote for the party.

Posted by: Largs at January 23, 2006 2:05 PM

Majority, or minority, the Conservatives can still govern as a majority. The Lieberals are broke and won't be wanting another election anytime soon.

Posted by: ol hoss at January 23, 2006 2:06 PM

I just tried to access the Captains Quarters blog @ http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/ it just sat there 'loading' - is anyone else having the same problem?

Posted by: the bear at January 23, 2006 2:07 PM

I have an eastern satellite connection so if anything exiting happens before the polls close here I will post it.

Posted by: Unclemeat at January 23, 2006 2:12 PM

The Bear is right. The Captain's Quarters Blog is not loading. I hope this is merely technical and not something more sinister!

Posted by: first time Oakville Voter at January 23, 2006 2:14 PM

Gee Kate, of course Carol is going to win in your riding. Rural populations are so sparse that they do not have to deal with social issues, and are therefore conservative by definition.

And Miss Malkin - she's pretty hot for a Jalapeno.

Posted by: BobSask at January 23, 2006 2:15 PM

I can attest to the rural-urban thing from the 2004 elections (which I watched from down here on C-Span). From 10PM to 1AM, the Libs had 140 and the NDP had about 20. I go to sleep, wake up the next morning and the grits fell to 135 (NDP fell to 19) after "the farm vote came in" (as we say down here).

Posted by: D.J. McGuire at January 23, 2006 2:26 PM

Since this is an open posting I thought I'd let people know about Samantha Burns's interviews she has been conducting with candidates under the title of Kook or Candidate you might want to check out.

http://www.samanthaburns.com/archives/interviews/

Also, check out the Marxist party in Canada, the pictures speak for themselves:

http://www.samanthaburns.com/archives/2006/01/post_12.html

Posted by: MrBig at January 23, 2006 2:28 PM

Carol's riding takes in part of Saskatoon. So it is always a horserace here.

Posted by: Kate at January 23, 2006 2:31 PM

My link to CQ was broken. I think it works now.

Posted by: Kate at January 23, 2006 2:33 PM

I was just at Capt. Ed's blog that I accessed directly from my Favorites list. So if there's a problem with Kate's link, here's the URL for cutting and pasting.

http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/

For no particular reason, I'd suggest going there after 6:00p.m. Eastern time.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 23, 2006 2:37 PM

Speaking of election results, all this buildup to an election and I have to (want to) go to my daughter's school band performance, which just happens to start when the coverage begins here in BC. Who picked this date? Is anyone aware of a source for e-mail election updates for my Crackberry?

Posted by: The Western Critic at January 23, 2006 2:38 PM


Canadian colour is no longer Red.

Canadian colour is now Blue.


Martin casts ballot in Montreal

Prime Minister Paul Martin appeared tense, his

shoulders hunched, as he entered a polling station

with wife Sheila to cast his ballot in his Montreal riding of Lasalle-Emard on Monday. Asked how he felt, Martin said: “I feel great. I feel great.” He then made a beeline to his waiting limousine, ignoring reporters’ questions, smiling curtly, his eyes cast downward. Full Story >>


Harper appears confident, at ease

VICTORIA (CP) - Buoyant and chipper, Stephen

Harper says he's run precisely the campaign he wanted and is ready to take power - provided Canadians are ready to give it to him.>>
via cnews

Posted by: maz2 at January 23, 2006 2:40 PM

I'm not surprised at the way the media is portraying Martin and Harper. As much as I don't like some of the plans in the Conservative platform, I have to admit that we're probably looking at a Conservative minority government, at the very least.

Posted by: Brian Gilham at January 23, 2006 2:45 PM

Buzzard was summoned by Ford to appear this morning. Buzzard has lost/given up the key to the washroom. Fly away, Buzz off: CAW. CAW, CAW.

CAW Crunch Time


Author: "Anonymeme"

Date Posted: 11:24:39 01/23/06 Mon
In reply to: our Qualities 's message, "Maximizing" on 11:08:04 01/23/06 Mon

The desperate management of the Big Three Auto failures must not only rationalize production, but they must lower labour costs to compete with the coming and already here Asian auto products.

The NA auto company management can read the writing on the wall that they will be made non-competitive from Asian cars .... while they try to flog their high profit margin behemoths that are anti-Kyoto in their existence.

Now I hear Buzzard on CBC claiming that St.Thomas [Ontario] cutbacks are worse than expected and that restructuring was supposed to be over. Now he is calling on "our govt" to do something about the lockout of NA cars from Asian markets and that it will be "shame on us" for this to happen.

Buzzard needs friends in high govt places to save his sorry arse now ... ever since the lousy liberals let it happen in the first place .... LOL ...!!!!! >>>
http://www.voy.com/178771/123398.html

Posted by: maz2 at January 23, 2006 2:53 PM

It certainly feels like it's going to be a great night.

I'll certainly be glued to the telly the whole evening.

As I don't much care for most sports, this is my NHL Playoffs, my World Series, my Superbowl. Haven't been this excited since Referendum '95. Why? It's also an election with national unity implications, as we well know. If the Libranos are returned to power... we may well be screwed as a federation. Hence the importance of a Conservative victory. A vote for the Liberals is a vote against a united Canada.

Remember that, any leftist trolls lurking about if you haven't yet voted.

Choose Canada.

Vote Conservative.

Posted by: The Canadian Sentinel at January 23, 2006 3:02 PM

Could someone please defend this insane rule that says a resident of BC such as myself should not know the results of eastern Canada until after our polls close. Are they afraid if I hear the results I will vote different? If I do change my vote based on the results of back east, what exactly is wrong with this? This makes no sense to me (especially as I can just get on the phone and call to find the results if I really want them). More nanny statism to the extreme. Not only are we too dumb to raise our children but we are too dumb to make up our own minds.

Posted by: Fritz at January 23, 2006 3:09 PM

I'll certainly be glued to the telly the whole evening.

I don't know whether I'll do this or just watch '24' and go to bed early. I don't know if my li'l old heart will be able to take the tension, esp if the Libs manage some kind of comeback!

Posted by: Dudley Morris at January 23, 2006 3:10 PM

Tommy Douglas: Not Dead Enough! (H/T: SDA)

There is wailing and gnashing of teeth in/on the Left/NDP.

Why, even Tommy Douglas's fraudulent signature/icon/ is weeping. Doulas's signature & the welfare state signifies the "re-distribution of wealth"; this is the socialist message; give us, the state, your cow(s); if not "WE" shall take your cow(s), aka private property, from you. The beloved saint is dead, at last. RIP, Toomy.

"Hello, I grew up in a household wher my father was a union rep in the CNR in the 50's and 60's active with worker education. I have a framed Tommy Douglas signature which I got when I met him as a kid so don't even presume to know my leanings. It is clear from the article that prominent NDPs who also are dismayed with the decision to lay off Harper." >>>
http://www.democraticunderground
http://www.rapp.org/url/?O8BD8PSX

Posted by: maz2 at January 23, 2006 3:12 PM

Being in Alberta, and the Battle of Alberta is on again tonight, Edmonton hosting Calgary, I'll be watching the game on satellite if anyone is carrying the game. After 12 years of Liberal(pick a bad word) I can wait till after the game to get the election results.

Posted by: rusty at January 23, 2006 3:22 PM

"Poll closing times have been staggered to minimize the lag time between east and west coast results..."

Oh, yeah. So now I have the option of waiting until 2:30am AST to watch the BC results come rolling in. Or not. Last time I went to bed and John Reynolds had been declared defeated. I woke up and he was doing fine. Strange country.

Am I just getting old and dottering or was it a bit more civilized in 1997? As near as I can recall the polls closed at a very civilized 7:30pm in Winnipeg (where I was living), exactly an hour after they closed in the Maritimes. An hour later the polls closed in Alberta and thirty minutes later in BC. And then, of course, they closed in Saskatchewan thirty minutes after that because Elections Canada forgot that Saskatchewan doesn't observe DST.

But the whole country, six times zones across, had completed an election within three hours. As I recall, we even knew the winner before the sun went down. Now, was I just dreaming, or did it really happen that way?

Posted by: herringchoker at January 23, 2006 3:36 PM

Okay your election is over Canadians. Michael Moore says he loves you and he knows you crazy guys won't vote for some nasty conservative.... now excuse me while I go take a shower and enema after linking to that clowns website.

Posted by: Joseph at January 23, 2006 3:42 PM

I think the point of not disclosing results elsewhere is that people may be discouraged from voting if they see their party taking a trouncing early on in the day, or conversely, they may not bother to vote if they think their party has a strong lead already.

Posted by: Citizen Grim at January 23, 2006 3:45 PM

As a Canadian citizen outside Canada, with a blog written and hosted outside Canada, I can say quite openly that I will be posting whatever early results I come across. Anyone who wants to discuss the election without talking about how many seats the Martinis and Harp Seals have each won in Newfoundland is welcome to join the discussion.

Posted by: Milan at January 23, 2006 3:46 PM

Election nights are great, if they didn't cost so much I'd say we should make them an anual event.

Posted by: Saskboy at January 23, 2006 3:49 PM

Off Topic:

Here's a great American article about our election:

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/opinion/13669377.htm

Posted by: singlethreat at January 23, 2006 3:53 PM

Western Critic:
Check here for email or text message updates.
http://www.canoe.ca/emailalerts

Posted by: DemandMore at January 23, 2006 3:58 PM

If you want to see what other blogger's are saying visit http://www.electionblog.ca where you can search through Canadian blogs.

Don't plan on any updates during the return votes. It looks like they'll be observing the blackout period on updates - but the site will still be up to search.

Posted by: Hope-in-a-song at January 23, 2006 4:20 PM


Thanks for the American Article link, singlethreat. It's no wonder that others say the Conservative party is a puppet of the Americans, when our biggest supporters seem to care so much what the Americans thinks.

Posted by: AlbertaBob at January 23, 2006 4:22 PM

Hah..

Tonight will be a night of celebration.

Canada is enjoying it's maple syrup revolution.

Bravo Canadians.

http://bleedingbrain.blogspot.com


Posted by: bleedingbrain at January 23, 2006 4:57 PM

CTV early morning news.

www.charlesadler.com

Those comments by Andrew Krystal were slanderous to all Conservatives and very
irresponsible.

I know I will be calling Jim Hamm, General Manager, Atlantic Radio,
Rogers Media, (902) 493-7133 and complain about Andrew Krystal.

I will put the message to everyone that references to Hitler are
irresponsible and irreprehensible and Andrew Krystal should be reprimanded.

Mike

Posted by: mikeh at January 23, 2006 5:04 PM

Krystal doesn't even seem to think he did or said anything wrong. Read the emails that were sent about the incident:

http://www.charlesadler.com/News/NPViewArticle.asp?cmd=view&articleid=741

Posted by: Bruce at January 23, 2006 5:38 PM

I will be live blogging the election since I am currently resident in the UK. You are all welcome to come over and post whatever you like at www.thesurlybeaver.ca.

Posted by: The Surly Beaver at January 23, 2006 5:45 PM

Missed the whole thing- I was watching The Simpsons.

Posted by: dave at January 23, 2006 6:15 PM

Uh, Joseph. I think it's Michael Moore that needs the enema. LOL.

Posted by: Joe Canuck at January 23, 2006 6:17 PM

Be sure to email some large emails to akrystal@rogers.blackberry.net He can at least pay for his stupidity with a large Blackberry bill.

Posted by: mark at January 23, 2006 6:23 PM

So it is true, according to Malkin, that American political analysts are working on the Canadian campaign? I have no problem with it, but other Canucks might. I wonder if US liberals are helping Martin?

Posted by: Jason Bertucci at January 23, 2006 6:49 PM

Jason;

Well Michael Moore seems to be on the payroll.

Posted by: Artemis at January 23, 2006 6:59 PM

Listening to the PM on Bill Goods show this morning, this guy has no scruples, no shame, not a humble cell in his body. The venom of a cornered rodent. The untruths roll off his tongue now without the stammering and stuttering that that was so evident two months ago. I guess if he tells lies often enough he starts to belive what he is saying hence the fluid speech .
I don't know which would be better for PMPM to lose his seat and make us all happy or for him to win and watch him be ridiculed, just like he has ridiculed the Canadian voters, and make us all happy.

Posted by: capt_bob at January 23, 2006 7:02 PM

It appears the CBC is breaking it's own election ban. Radio Canada International is streaming it's coverage.

http://www.rcinet.ca/rci/en/

Not sure if it's available in Canada...

Posted by: Londoner at January 23, 2006 7:10 PM

Harper phoned me over the weekend and invited me to the Conservative party at the Telus Centre here in Calgary. It will be exciting to see the new Prime Minister first hand. Hopefully the organizers have beer and popcorn on hand.

Posted by: Keith at January 23, 2006 7:17 PM

Well maybe it was just a recording.

Posted by: Keith at January 23, 2006 7:18 PM

I'm also liveblogging for those in the Pacific Northwest of the USA, who really are interested in this.

Y'all are great! :)

Posted by: Sailor Republica at January 23, 2006 7:20 PM

Londoner, it seems to only have the BC feed, do you know of another link? - not that I'm saying you should post it here...

I just saw Kate on CBC news at 6.

Posted by: Saskboy at January 23, 2006 7:25 PM

Well, I'm listening to the NF results now, and Atlantic polls close in a sec, and I'm listening to the RealPlayer feed. Maybe the RCI website is clever enough to know where your computer is...

It's not looking so good right now

Posted by: Londoner at January 23, 2006 7:30 PM

Just remember, Newfoundland is important, but not where the changes will be found. I would not be surprised if NF/Lab and the Atlantic Provinces stayed the same.

Posted by: Sailor Republica at January 23, 2006 7:43 PM

Just a note:
If a blog posts a picture of a local political group drilling into ice in order to put a sign up... it might be in Saskatchewan. ;)

Best wishes from someone who greatly admires those who can go without full-body-containment suits in such weather.

Posted by: Kathy K at January 23, 2006 7:46 PM

Results of the election.

:( No not ballot results.

Rather, the election results in a few crazys out and about.

http://www.ctv.ca//servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060122/elxn_ballotbox_truck_060123/20060123?s_name=election2006&no_ads=

Posted by: Barclay at January 23, 2006 7:47 PM

I hear that many of our fellow Canadians are getting to be very happy in NFLD

Posted by: Rick S at January 23, 2006 7:48 PM

I'm in AB, and I'm listening to the NF/NS results on RCI (I'm an American, so Elections Canada can bring it on!!!).

thesurlybeaver.ca (Canuck in London) is liveblogging - but don't go there if you can't handle it!!! Remember, Elections Canada is there to protect you!

Posted by: Meg Q at January 23, 2006 7:49 PM

The Radio Canada english realplayer feed just went dead.

Posted by: Shaken at January 23, 2006 7:52 PM

Whoops, I think we were just rumbled, the RCI feed just got cut off, either that or they're overloaded.

Londoner

Posted by: Londoner at January 23, 2006 7:53 PM

Ditto that, Shaken, RCI pulled the plug on us - guess they feel we can't handle the truth.

I mean, God forbid you Canadians knowing what is going on in your country. Like people in BC are going to stampede the polling place in the last 2 hrs because of the result in Nova Scotia. OR stay home. Puh. You still have to have your local representative . . . your vote still "counts".

Posted by: Meg Q at January 23, 2006 7:55 PM

CTV's reporting that you can get the election results for your local area on your cell phone. All you need to do is call some number - anyone remember how to spoof call display phone numbers? ;)

Posted by: the bear at January 23, 2006 7:58 PM

Radio Canada french and *chinese* feeds also cut off.

WTF? We're paying for Chinese translation? What is this, our third official language?

Posted by: Shaken at January 23, 2006 8:00 PM

There must be a nova scotia or Newfoundland Blogger out there somewhere

Posted by: Stephen at January 23, 2006 8:00 PM

Try the surly beaver link :P

Posted by: Lucas Kenward at January 23, 2006 8:03 PM

thesurlybeaver.ca is reporting that the RCI live feed is still there intermittently but it seems to be a volume problem... keep trying folks

Posted by: Chuckles at January 23, 2006 8:04 PM

Folks in NFLD...maybe not that happy

Posted by: Rich at January 23, 2006 8:04 PM

The RCI has a live feed I am picking up in Brazil....all the results from the Maritimes are coming in...I am not Canadian and live in Brazil...is there a problem with me posting results here?

Posted by: ben at January 23, 2006 8:05 PM

These must be NS results:

LIB 18
CPC 11
NDP 2

Still to hear from 1 riding....there will be a few small changes from this.

Posted by: Chuckles at January 23, 2006 8:05 PM

I hope not Ben because I just did the same thing and I am Canadian!! In London though, so they can't catch me. Besides, someone on another web site pointed out that the internet does not "transmit" per se, it just sits there and other people access it. But if anyone thinks we should stop let me know - don't want to get Kate in trouble.

Posted by: Chuckles at January 23, 2006 8:09 PM

In Labrador and Newfoundland the Conservatives picked up one seat so maybe that is the total you gave..there it was 4 to 3 Lib-Con

Posted by: ben at January 23, 2006 8:12 PM

Anyone know who has the best live stream election coverage? Please post recommendations and links.

Mercy Buckets.

:)

Posted by: BillyHW at January 23, 2006 8:17 PM

Since finding SDA, and then Dust My Broom, I feel like I have some friends in Canada. So I'm one of those clueless Americans who's interested in the Elections "Up North"!

Good luck to all of you! I wish you the best government you can get!

"Eh?"

Hehehee!

Posted by: benning at January 23, 2006 8:21 PM

For anyone who doesn't know it - www.thesurlybeaver.ca has some people posting results from the Maritimes and discussing actual results against polls and predictions.

Posted by: Chuckles at January 23, 2006 8:30 PM

Is anyone else concerned that the Conservative election strategy was helped by Americans? I still would have voted for us, but I think its pretty stupid we get outside help when the enemy accuses us of sleeping with them.

Posted by: Joe at January 23, 2006 8:37 PM

Thanks for that marmot days

Posted by: Chuckles at January 23, 2006 8:37 PM

The Surly Beaver is doing a great job. Better than I have been able to do.

Keep visiting all of us, including Capt. Ed, Michelle, Beaver, and myself.

Thank you. :)

Posted by: Sailor Republica at January 23, 2006 8:38 PM

I have always enjoyed voting because of the strange characters it brings out of the woodwork.

You have crazy environmentalist, who can't afford a haircut or razor (or won’t get one even if he/she has the money). That's my favorite crazy because they are mostly limited in scope to places they can walk, or bike ride. Sometimes they will dust off the old hippie style van that pollutes more then today’s modern SUV, and venture out to protest trivial issues like deforestation, and the greenhouse effect. Most of the time these are people who are dissatisfied with their career so they try to put blame on large corporations that have denied them the promotion they so “badly deserve” all these years.

Then you have rich housewife, who feels it is her civic duty to vote, and looks in disgust at all the “common” people who have shown up at her place to vote. Usually she votes because she feels it is in her financial interest to do so. I hate this type the most, because they are the most difficult to put in their place. The typical upscale housewife spends very little time in the kitchen because they have an illegal Mexican to do all their chores (usually named Rosa or Maria). They don’t understand the value of a women’s place. This type of person will also head “fundraisers” for causes that get “ohs”, and “ahs” from people like “save the whales”, or “feed the starving children of Africa”.

Then there is your average joe or jane, who has a genuine interest in politics for the country as a whole, and isn’t in it for personal or financial gain. I really hate this type of person also because they are not the least bit selfish, and care about the welfare of others.

Posted by: Morris at January 23, 2006 8:39 PM

If the Conservatives don't get a majority, don't be suprised to see the Liebrals still in govmt in the morning because the GG has the final say.

Posted by: Stewart at January 23, 2006 8:56 PM

Does anyone know which site is best for up-to-date coverage on the election?

I would like to see something similar to the above map of Saskatchewan, but for the entire Country??

Go Harper!

Posted by: singlethreat at January 23, 2006 8:58 PM

Atlantic Canada is not looking good so far for the Cons - ouch.

Posted by: Fritz at January 23, 2006 9:02 PM

Surley beaver has a good one going.

Posted by: Duke at January 23, 2006 9:04 PM

http://www.thesurlybeaver.ca/?itemid=115#nucleus_cf

Posted by: Duke at January 23, 2006 9:07 PM

Wow.. isn't that illegal?? They have it right up to date!

Posted by: singlethreat at January 23, 2006 9:07 PM

Surly Beaver is doing a great job. Head there if you can. I hope to be getting early numbers on BC here soon.

Posted by: Sailor Republica at January 23, 2006 9:08 PM

SB just went down with a MySQL error.

Posted by: Brian Gilham at January 23, 2006 9:14 PM

Yeah, Captain's Quarters is down 7:15 MST...

Wouldn't be surprized if his site server is overloaded, or Elections Canada is threatening ISP's with a law suit...

cheers
tom

Posted by: tomax at January 23, 2006 9:14 PM

Free Republic also has up to date info if a little hard to follow. I miss Surly Beaver!!!

Posted by: Chuckles at January 23, 2006 9:17 PM

Blah. None of my boys on the border are giving me any info (VT, NH, and Maine, that is).

I'm working on some other ways to get the info.

Posted by: Sailor Republica at January 23, 2006 9:18 PM

Dang Atlantic Coasters, pogie loving voters.

Posted by: tomax at January 23, 2006 9:18 PM

Hmmm.. yeah, SB is down..

Any other sites I could go to?

Posted by: singlethreat at January 23, 2006 9:18 PM

http://www.thesurlybeaver.ca/ seems to be down. Bandwidth overloaded, perhaps?

I hope my site won't be next. People have been posting some numbers there, but there doesn't seem to be much point in not just waiting for the official coverage to begin in forty minutes.

Posted by: Milan at January 23, 2006 9:19 PM

Way O/T, but this is a little distressing: http://news.yahoo.com/s/cpress/20060123/ca_pr_on_na/fedelxn_gg_decides

Posted by: Lew at January 23, 2006 9:20 PM

Isn't it grand living in a country where information about your own elections is illegal.

As if knowing what's happening in other parts of the country is going to make the lest bit of difference.

This is truly a banana country

Posted by: Duke at January 23, 2006 9:20 PM

People are more than welcome to post numbers in my comments, if they like.

Posted by: Brian Gilham at January 23, 2006 9:21 PM

I'm comparing the results from SB to www.democraticspace.com

They are bang-on in every prediction thus far!

I gotta get a life (or a job).

Go Harper!

Posted by: singlethreat at January 23, 2006 9:21 PM

If the Libs get back in .... it will be revolution time or I am off the USA

Posted by: Duke at January 23, 2006 9:21 PM

I was concerned that Sasktel was censoring Captain's Quarter's Blog, and others, but it seems that no one can access it.

I posted the Coral Cache link to it CQB on my blog, but I don't know how often the cache is updated. I think Surly Beaver is doing a great service for Canadians.

Posted by: Saskboy at January 23, 2006 9:24 PM

www.thesurlybeaver.ca is back up and smokin hot with Quebec preliminaries coming in now :)

Posted by: Chuckles at January 23, 2006 9:26 PM

Naval Housing is up, but probably swamped. I had a tough time getting on tonight.

Posted by: Artemis at January 23, 2006 9:26 PM

Go to http://thecanadiansentinel.blogspot.com

for my feelings (but no numbers!! as that's a no-no) on the Atlantic results so far.

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at January 23, 2006 9:28 PM

SB is up... I had no probs.

Posted by: Artemis at January 23, 2006 9:28 PM

OMG.. the CBC is totally screwing up!

No sound.. hahaha

Posted by: singlethreat at January 23, 2006 9:30 PM

The Tories have pulled the plug on the CBC already! Yeehaw!

Posted by: Lew at January 23, 2006 9:32 PM

Check out
Pro Alberta

ATV (9:20EST)

Lib (19) (40%)
Con (11) (35%)
NDP (3) (23%)
BQ (1)
OTH (0) (2%)

Posted by: Marmot Days - Victoria at January 23, 2006 9:32 PM

- CQ is up but slow
- CBC is still babbling but no results
- AND NO BLOODY SENS GAME EITHER! B*ST*RDS!

Posted by: JCP at January 23, 2006 9:33 PM

CTV is now "officially" releasing the numbers...so I guess we can...

Atlantic Canada is doing the usual inbred thing - it went Liberal, almost all.

Liberal 17
CPC 10
NDP 3

PEI - went totally Liberal
NS -
NB - went Liberal

Posted by: tomax at January 23, 2006 9:34 PM

If Atlantic Canada doesn't do better than this, we really are going to cut off their pogey.

Posted by: Shabbadoo at January 23, 2006 9:34 PM

GLOBAL JUST DECLARED CPC GOVERNMENT!!!

Posted by: Stephen at January 23, 2006 9:36 PM

JCP:

Sens 3 Leafs 1 in the 3rd.

Tie Domi scored the Leaf goal - seriously!

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at January 23, 2006 9:37 PM

The trough suckers in Altantic should be made to pay. I hope Harper thins the gruel in their slop bin.

Posted by: Duke at January 23, 2006 9:38 PM

7:40MST

Atlantic Inbred Result:

Liberal-25
Conservative-11
New Democrates-5
Bloc -2

Posted by: tomax at January 23, 2006 9:40 PM

"When you're working as a scrutineer at a polling station and some guy rides up in a sled"

For the Toronto people, a "sled" is a "skidoo", a form of transportation used by Canadians in winter, hope this helps.

GO BIG BLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonalogue at January 23, 2006 9:42 PM

Ralph Goodale won his riding in Saskatchwan...

Libers 40
Conservatives 16

Posted by: tomax at January 23, 2006 9:45 PM

That's a bit pre-mature tomax. Ralph isn't in the clear yet...lots of pols in his riding still to report (like 99%)

Posted by: Shabbadoo at January 23, 2006 9:48 PM

Watching CBC, and they are listing all the Liberals...got sick of watching CTV, same thing.

So I hope I"m wrong, but the way they were talking, he got his riding back.

Posted by: tomax at January 23, 2006 9:50 PM

its not a culture of defeatism its a culture of pogey and handouts and its now into its third geneation.

cut quebec loose and send the atlantic provinces with them.

Posted by: cal2 at January 23, 2006 9:50 PM

Cons have caught the Libs: 55 to 55.

Jack Layton 74, Deborah Coyne 69. Early, but wow!

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at January 23, 2006 9:53 PM

CPC has now taken the lead - 59-56.

Posted by: Shabbadoo at January 23, 2006 9:53 PM

Cons pulling ahead - 76 to 67

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at January 23, 2006 9:57 PM

Deborah Coyne now leading Layton - wow!

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at January 23, 2006 9:58 PM

CTV calls it a CPC minority.

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at January 23, 2006 10:01 PM

Ok...CTV is saying Ralph (I robbed your Grandma) Goodale has won his riding.

F&*%.

Posted by: Shabbadoo at January 23, 2006 10:03 PM

Silver lining: Goodale sits in opposition and gets treated with the contempt he deserves.

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at January 23, 2006 10:04 PM

Sweet!!!!!
Martin is trailing so far...though only 2 polls reporting as yet.

Posted by: Shabbadoo at January 23, 2006 10:05 PM

Is Herle going to hang on in Regina?

Posted by: Saskboy at January 23, 2006 10:06 PM

Good point Matt. Plus, he still may have to resign his seat if the RCMP investigation leads to anything.

Posted by: Shabbadoo at January 23, 2006 10:07 PM

Radio-Canada has just called a CPC minority

Posted by: Maple Stump at January 23, 2006 10:10 PM

CBC calls projection to be CPC minority just as Matt above has stated the CTV has declared. TG

Posted by: TonyGuitar at January 23, 2006 10:11 PM

Global calls minority

Posted by: Artemis at January 23, 2006 10:12 PM

Layton now healthily ahead. Drat!

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at January 23, 2006 10:13 PM

Landslide Annie is behind. Gee, that's real shame.

Oh crap, Belinda is leading.

Posted by: Kathryn at January 23, 2006 10:13 PM

Carolyn Bennett kicking Peter Kent's ass. Double drat!

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at January 23, 2006 10:13 PM

John McCallum going to be re-elected.

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at January 23, 2006 10:14 PM

Liberal MP Andy Savoy, after Chretien pulled his golfball stunt at Gomery:

"Mr. Chretien just opened a big-town can of whup-ass on Justice Gomery!"

Well let me be the first to thank the good people of Tobique-Mactaquac for opening a small-town can of whup-ass on Justice Gomery:

CON 15213 Mike Allen
LIB 14662 Andy Savoy
NDP 4022 Alice Finnamore
GRN 856 Robert Berube Jr.

Posted by: Anonalogue at January 23, 2006 10:15 PM

CPC minority! F***! Don't those Easterners care about anything but their entitlements? Kate: The West should GO! Didn't you just KNOW the Ontario pucker factor would kick in?
Martin and the boys are safe, there won't be any investigations. I'll sign off before I become completely incoherent.

Posted by: dmorris at January 23, 2006 10:17 PM

Auto-recount in West Nova, Liberals held it by a hair.

Lawrence Cannon just got elected, thank you Angry!

Posted by: Anonalogue at January 23, 2006 10:18 PM

416 & 905 seems solidly Liberal.

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at January 23, 2006 10:18 PM

Maybe soon Goodale gets investigated for real? Hmmm?

Posted by: benning at January 23, 2006 10:20 PM

That pretty Quebec CPC lady got elected.

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at January 23, 2006 10:20 PM

Garneau gets defeated!!!!!!!

Asswipe! I love it!!!!

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at January 23, 2006 10:20 PM

I'm surfing for info to. But, I am glad not to find any. Release of results during an election can prejudice the voters yet to cast their ballots and have serious imlications on poll turnouts. Waiting for election results until the polls are CLOSED is a small price to pay out of respect for a fair Democracy. I am very glad to find that my favorite Canadian bloggers share this humble opinion. In a healthy Democracy all the details will be properly noted and reported soon.

Posted by: Tom Penn at January 23, 2006 10:22 PM

Joe "KKK" Volpe wins. So do Dryen, Sgro, Tonks, while Ignatieff looks extremely likely.

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at January 23, 2006 10:25 PM

Richard Mahoney (L) early lead in Ottawa Centre.

Allan Cutler is getting killed in Ottawa South, this is surprising.

Posted by: Anonalogue at January 23, 2006 10:25 PM

Sounds like a minority Conservative government in the making. A recipe for deadlock. Hoping for a majority Conservative government to get things done and investigate all the Librano correuption but think it will not happen now.

You guys need the American system FAST but think tonight starts the breakup of Canada,

Posted by: Greg at January 23, 2006 10:28 PM

Cutler ... not a surprise ... McGinty is well liked and Cutler isn't very much of a public speaker yet

Posted by: melek at January 23, 2006 10:29 PM

Really tight in Ottawa Orleans, Tories might take it, Ottawa West looks like a win for John Baird. Looks like a minimum of 5 seats for the Tories in Que, good news.

Posted by: Anonalogue at January 23, 2006 10:29 PM

Reg Alcock "concerned" - head rapidly deflating.

Posted by: Sockpuppet at January 23, 2006 10:29 PM

CTV just declared Belinda reelected. Dammit!

Posted by: Ian in NS at January 23, 2006 10:29 PM

Cutler ... not a surprise ... McGinty is well liked and Cutler isn't very much of a public speaker yet

Posted by: melek at January 23, 2006 10:29 PM

At this moment, I am so ashamed to be a Torontonian.

Posted by: Kevin at January 23, 2006 10:30 PM

Go Habs Go !

Posted by: Bernie at January 23, 2006 10:42 PM

the night is early and comfy fur Belinder looks very good in opposition after all she has great shoes and loads o'cash. maybe she can buy her way into another leadership convention??

Posted by: kelly at January 23, 2006 10:43 PM

Since my daughter in law is a Canadian, and since I spend every available summer canoeing in beautiful saskatchewan, north of the Churchill river, I have even come to eat fries with brown gravy--But what the hell is Pogey? Dont you Canadians speak English for god sakes? Bonjour--Good day, from Washington State.

Posted by: RogerA at January 23, 2006 10:43 PM

LOL, Roger :-) "Pogey" is Atlantic-Canadian slang for either "welfare" or "(UN)employment insurance", which end up being the same thing.

Posted by: SDC at January 23, 2006 10:51 PM

Pogey? ...the dole...unemployment ins. gotta go to work peeps... Keep the faith!~

Posted by: Snookie at January 23, 2006 10:51 PM

RogerA We speak English and American and some French you guys just speak American.

Posted by: Fred at January 23, 2006 10:52 PM

Thank you all! Back to Wollaston Lake next year!!! eh?

Posted by: RogerA at January 23, 2006 10:55 PM

Anybody in the West thats p----ed I don't blame you. Christ my province (ont) is pathetic.
Maybe they'll learn the hard way.

Posted by: Mugs at January 23, 2006 10:56 PM

First Prime Minister ever born in the city of Toronto and not one seat from there.

Posted by: Fred at January 23, 2006 11:00 PM

Pettigrew just went down, I bet he finds that one hard to swallow...

Posted by: Maple stump at January 23, 2006 11:04 PM

These results suck. Cons by only 20 seats - 5% lead in the popular vote. All the polling companys got it totally wrong. What is wrong with Canada? Man does this suck.

Posted by: Fritz at January 23, 2006 11:04 PM

Kate- Congratulations to you and the Canadian people. I just saw your bit on the BBC. That's exciting. I look forward to seeing the final results.

Posted by: Jim Hoft at January 23, 2006 11:05 PM

Now let's get on with what MUST be done....making public EVERY bit of sleazy, incompetent or corrupt lib. business and prosecuting the rapscallions with no remorse.
There must be a public acccounting, none of this forgiving attitude so common among politicians, we have just won part one of a war...we must now begin for the next part.
This is not a game, the country is at stake.

Posted by: Rich at January 23, 2006 11:09 PM

I agree, Fritz. This is not good for Canada. We'll be back in an election within two years and the Liberals will resume their dictatorship.

We NEEDED a strong Conservative minority or a majority so they can show how powerful their ideas are. Instead, they'll be out the first chance the Libs get.

I'M SO FRUSTRATED! Ontario voters have obviously drank the punch and lost their minds.

Posted by: saskfishtales at January 23, 2006 11:12 PM

Let's just get it over with and separate.

Posted by: chip at January 23, 2006 11:15 PM

Just in (and I'm not kidding)

Paul Martin refuses to concede defeat (Mike Duffy looks baffled)

Posted by: mitch at January 23, 2006 11:16 PM

If you had offered me these results two months ago, I would have would have been ecstatic. And I still am. Harper sticks to the plan and he'll have a majority next time around. Eye on the ball, people.

Posted by: pheenster at January 23, 2006 11:19 PM

Folks 123 seats is nothing. Libs + NDP can almost form a government. Quit your celebrating. This is serious and it sucks.

Posted by: Fritz at January 23, 2006 11:20 PM


Pettigrew just went down, I bet he finds that one hard to swallow...

Pettigrew has swallowed a lot of hards in his day.

I cannot believe how many Fu**ing stupid people live in this country. What the hell goes on in their minds that would convince them that a vote for a Liberal is a vote for a better country.

These results make me sick....yes we won, but look at how many people voted for these scum sucking pigs. Totally unbelievable!

As for me that's it. Tonight I have become the most strident supporter of western separation in Canada.

Posted by: bullwinkle at January 23, 2006 11:28 PM

This is horrible. The libs will get a new leader and win a majority in the next election.

Harper will be stonewalled at every turn.

This country is the former Soviet Union .. no it's Cuba

I am seriously considering either Montana or Texas.

it's also even possible that the voodoo queen will allow Marting to continue on with the jakals support.

When you have a country so stupid and with about 70% commie, there is little hope. Sorry to be so depressing, but that's how is actually is.

Reality is reality.

Posted by: Duke at January 23, 2006 11:29 PM

Paris Stronach re-elected in Aurora.

I hereby declare Aurora as the dumbest voters in Canada. unless HotCross Hedy beats Svend in Vancouver ,then they will be a close second.

Posted by: cal2 at January 23, 2006 11:30 PM

Martin saying he won't concede tonight. Nails-on-the-board Annie appears to have finally been given the boot.

Posted by: Iron Lady at January 23, 2006 11:31 PM

Mike Puffy claiming on CTassV that Martin will not resign and will ask the Gov.Gen. to continue on as PM.

Posted by: cal2 at January 23, 2006 11:32 PM

Belinda got back in...crap!

If the NDP and Liberals make a collation government, Martin might be back in...

Posted by: tomax at January 23, 2006 11:32 PM

CTV reporting Martin has left his hotel, to speak at his headquarters in about 15 minutes. Didn't answer the question of whether he would be conceding.

Lib + NDP still +11 on CPC.

Posted by: Ian in NS at January 23, 2006 11:34 PM

I cannot believe that one person in the country voted lieberal! It is astounding and makes me want to separate even more than before. I am glad, however, that the Conservatives will win.

Note that where the Conservatives did win seats it was won typically by a 10 to 1 ratio!

Posted by: piston broke at January 23, 2006 11:35 PM

Vancouver has gone Liberal.

Toronto has gone Liberal.

Sad, sad, sad day for Canada.

Posted by: tomax at January 23, 2006 11:36 PM

After running a campaign of lies, smears and fears (not to mention the scandals and thievery), I find it unfathomable that the rest of this country thinks the LPC deserves a single vote let alone over 100. With all of his blumbling, stammering, and dithering Paul Martin isn't qualified to run a lemonade stand, let alone a democratic country.

And here were are... They're talking coalition between Liberals and NDP on Global right now.

Stop the country. I want to get off.

Posted by: spooky at January 23, 2006 11:37 PM

Alberta is entirely conservative.

BOOM BOOM out go the blights.

both libs gone.

Posted by: cal2 at January 23, 2006 11:37 PM

the only thing i have to say is:

STOCKHOLM SYNDROME!!!!!

definition from wikipedia.org
"Stockholm syndrome is a psychological response sometimes seen in a hostage, in which the hostage exhibits seeming loyalty to the hostage-taker, in spite of the danger (or at least risk) the hostage has been put in."

each and every single person in this country that voted liberal, who did not directly profit from the liberals' scandals and corruption, must have Stockholm syndrome. How else can the liberals get 100+ seats in this election, after holding the country hostage to their blundering, corruption and complete political stupidity!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

sure I am more than happy that we are going to have a conservative government tommorow, but it makes me sick to the stomach to see the liberals even on the political map. At this point.

At least I will be able to take enjoyment in watching Martin concede defeat. :)

I can't wait for the conservatives to uleash the book keepers on what the liberals haven't been able to shred....

Evan

Posted by: evan at January 23, 2006 11:37 PM

I am quite disappointed that so many Canadians feel lying, cheating, stealing etc is acceptable from their politicians. Count this fella as one more hard core Alberta republican (I dislike the word 'separatist'). Time to man the ramparts and get the ball rolling to get a headstart!

Posted by: Duke at January 23, 2006 11:38 PM

Let me be the first:
The West Wants Out!

Posted by: jonny at January 23, 2006 11:39 PM

If Martin refuses to step down (and John Duffy was just talking to Hannah Boudreau saying that "Paul Martin will make the decision that's best for the Liberal Party of Canada"), that could be disastrous.

Good God.  Does this man have no class at all?

Posted by: Garth Wood at January 23, 2006 11:41 PM

Duke, I know, I feel like puking, what is wrong with people - the Libs get over 100 seats, it is just sickening. I live in Toronto but am from Regina and I want to move to Alberta! there are no conservative voices out here that people can hear on a regular basis - it is only the left and the far left. You can't pop on your radio and accidently hear someone like Rush or Hannity. People won't watch Fox because it is "crazy right wing wack jobs". the most important values in Canuckistan are abortion and gay marriage and everything secular. I am sick of this country.

Posted by: ex-liberal at January 23, 2006 11:43 PM

You guys are out of control. I'll be back when the crack smoke clears.

Posted by: pheenster at January 23, 2006 11:45 PM

I expect right about now Paul Martin is dithering between his concession speech and the "aliens have landed" speech.

Posted by: Rod at January 23, 2006 11:45 PM

if Paulie and the Dippers join forces this is gonna be one Pi**ed Off, gun totin', western seperation supportin', western boy!!!!!

EVAN

Posted by: evan at January 23, 2006 11:49 PM

Landslide Annie is refusing to accept defeat. Here cohorts must be busy looking for 'lost' ballot boxes!

Posted by: the bear at January 23, 2006 11:49 PM

I think we are seeing disappointment from CPC supporters who cannot understand how such a shallow and empty campaign could still net so much support.

I feel most sorry for people who will not vote FOR something, but have to vote AGAINST something. In my mind there is no hope in that.

I guess the biggest thing now is to show all of the people who are so afraid of the CPC that they are honest and have nothing to hide. Like someone has said before, if there was a hidden agenda you would think that Belinda would know it.

Posted by: Dwayne at January 23, 2006 11:50 PM

Never thought I'd say this:

Time to pull the plug folks...

Canada no longer exists. It is Toronto/Vancouver.


Posted by: tomax at January 23, 2006 11:52 PM

I am so disappointed.

Dithers and gang run a horrible campaign, have a horrible record and have sabotage within their own party while the cons. run a great campaign. Result: Cons over crooks by only 6% of popular vote.

This country is in trouble. We've got 30% that are just deadweight.

It could be worse, I could live in Toronto and be totally surrounded by these zombies.

Posted by: Anguish in Ancaster at January 23, 2006 11:53 PM

I am sad for Canada. Atlantic Canada, Toront, and Vancouver all sold their souls to the most corrput and obnoxious government in modern day.

Only other party that sold Canada's soul was Diefenbaker with the Avro Arrow

Posted by: tomax at January 23, 2006 11:54 PM

Canada has proven that it is a communist country. Even though the CPC technically won the election, they only have about a third of the popular vote.

The rest are all far left and many who voted for them did so with great trepidation. I pity this sorry country. We have little hope of maintaining our prosperity and freedom.


Will he step down? We will see by tomorrow.

Posted by: Duke at January 23, 2006 11:57 PM

Do you think that instead of looking at this vote as an endoresement of fraud, it is a rejection of conservatism, namely social conservatism? That's the way I see it.

Posted by: Peter at January 23, 2006 11:59 PM

If the Liberals had not campaigned at all they probably would have won a majority. It's their own campaign that diminished their numbers. Hard to believe, but that's the way it looks.

Posted by: Duke at January 23, 2006 11:59 PM

"Tories: 211, Grits: 40, NDP: 42...wait just a minute here..."

Whoops.

Posted by: Peter at January 23, 2006 11:59 PM

We did right in Palliser. Next time Atlantic Canada will see it!!!! Well done Conservatives

Posted by: Paul T. at January 24, 2006 12:06 AM

I'm afraid the fear mongering of Paul Martin got to many people. You hear lies long enough, they becomes true.

This is sad for our country - Harper is going to have a hard go.

I am deeply disappointed.

Posted by: Ingrid at January 24, 2006 12:09 AM

Pick yourselves up, and dust yourselves off. There is more work to be done. For my part, I am just glad to see signs of a pulse of real democracy in Canada. I thought you were completely lost. There is hope. LEAD WELL!

Posted by: Tom Penn at January 24, 2006 12:10 AM

Paul Martin is speaking...

and...

he is going go as official opposition.

Wow, nice speech about his wife and family, and soooo proud to be a Liberal...

Posted by: tomax at January 24, 2006 12:13 AM

Paul Martin is going to step down

Posted by: tomax at January 24, 2006 12:14 AM

Paul Martin said he will not lead the LPC into the next election.

Posted by: spooky at January 24, 2006 12:15 AM

Current #'s:
CPC 125
NDP 29

Jack has no hammer

Select Bill Blaikie (MP since 1979?) as Speaker of the House in case the Independent votes with the NDP on any given confidence matter.

Stand back and let Prime Minister Harper and CPC members demonstrate how they will govern in a House during the Liberal Leadership camapign.

Congratulations to the Conservative Party of Canada.

SJ

Posted by: Steeve J at January 24, 2006 12:16 AM

Duke, Anguish and others. I share your well founded misgivings about 2/3rds of Canadians who seem to accept the fear Harper drivel that has been dripping daily from the MSM for the last year.

As I write this Paul is saying there will be another chance, another time.

That*s the best news we could hope for this night. By saying that, Paulie is saying there is no scheme to steal back Harper's and our win by plotting a cimbines power grab with Jacko's NDPeers.

Harper and the team will prove over time that the fear propaganda was a Librano lie.

Once that is out of the way, the next election should be a Conservative sweep and the ideal house should also gain more greens over NDP for balance.

If voting fraud is found to be substantial in Edmonton and Surrey Newton, there could well be a few more conservatives headed for Ottawa. TG

Posted by: TonyGuitar at January 24, 2006 12:17 AM

I love the SK map. Close, but no cigar. The next year or so will be Harper's to win (coaleasce the centre) or lose (let loose the Myron Thompson's). Let's hope that Senator Segal and friends will have a lot of influence. A great night!

Posted by: Andy Elliott at January 24, 2006 12:22 AM

I love the SK map. Close, but no cigar. The next year or so will be Harper's to win (coaleasce the centre) or lose (let loose the Myron Thompson's). Let's hope that Senator Segal and friends will have a lot of influence. A great night!

Posted by: Andy Elliott at January 24, 2006 12:23 AM

Why were all the polls (except SES) wrong?

Mark
Ottawa

Posted by: Mark Collins at January 24, 2006 12:25 AM

Martin announces he's stepping down ...

Posted by: JCP at January 24, 2006 12:25 AM

I am so disappointed with these results, the only real upset was Tony Valeri! I was hoping for so much more. What is wrong with this country ... the Liberals should have been at Kim Campbell levels of support.

We can hope that a minority now will translate into a majority in a year or so. Please Mr. Harper, play this right.

Posted by: sheila at January 24, 2006 12:26 AM

Folks, I am a Calvinist. That means I believe in the total depravity of man (inclusive usage). But until today, I did not believe in the total stupidity of man. A city is like a mob: its IQ is that of its dumbest member divided by the total population...Toronto is a lump of petrified wood, Vancouver a fetid algal swamp, and the Atlantic provinces a harem of selfish slatterns. The rural-urban divide I so wide as to be unbridgeable by anything less than global catastrophe. I am sitting here in Ottawa, near despair, wishing I had never left the prairies (how the hell could you re-elect Goodale?!). The only hope for this country is if Alberta separates and begins confederation anew, with the benefit of hindsight.

Henry

Posted by: Henry at January 24, 2006 12:29 AM

I'm a little disapointed, but realistic. The hipsters in the urban centers turned to the crooks as being the safest option.

Harper has the chance he wanted to prove he can govern fairly. He has already proven that he can build consensus by uniting the right when many said it was impossible.

As Harper ran his campaign so to will he run his government, slow and steady and continue to build support.

There are a lot of things to be happy about. A base to work from in Quebec. Small gains on the east coast. The NDP do not hold the balance of power.

Harper did not really want a majority this time around.

He is a smart man. I look for him to build on tonights results. Not a resounding victory, but a start.

Syncro

Posted by: Syncrodox at January 24, 2006 12:29 AM

Congratulations to Stephen Harper!

It is an uneasy 'win', but now we will appreciate the stuff he is made of, and hope that the public will be given a proper chance to see the mettle of our man.

It will be an opportunity to get into the books and see what is behind the doors that the Liberals blocked to us.

Hopefully, the will of our southern neighbor to work in some less-handicapped way with our government, will once again be to the benefit of both.

While we can be to some real degree, disappointed, we must always be hopeful..and proud of the way our leader conducted his campaign.

We will now steel ourselves for a very tough challenge ahead of us.

Think of how it would feel to be heading back to opposition seats...

Posted by: Buffalo Bean at January 24, 2006 12:33 AM

How much time do we have? How long before the Libs can organize a leadership connvention? Any guesses who Harper might be up against next time around?

Posted by: Carl at January 24, 2006 12:35 AM

Cons Grewal has been declared elected 9:35pm.

Remember, to those who lament Goodal squeaking in. There are still the process of law and Gomery to come. How many fat libranos will that delete from the house? TG

Posted by: TonyGuitar at January 24, 2006 12:37 AM

Good point BB. Had the LPC managed to hang on to power I would have been talking to my local separatist canidate here in Alberta to find out what I could do to help.

Canada has one more chance and the right man for the job. If Harper can't turn this mess around then the way forward will be clear for me.

I look for him to move quickly on the Accountability Act and lets get the AG into those trusts and the Gun Registry etc...

Syncro

Posted by: Syncrodox at January 24, 2006 12:40 AM

This was the one Conservative chance for a breakthrough. This is the best media coverage the Cons will ever get. The libs will now hold a leadership convention and some new saviour will be the media darling (the new Paul Martin) who will make everything right. Its over - the Conservatives have 12 - 18 months and even if they do everything right they will have little chance of improving on the current result. With Martin gone the Liberals will be united again.

Posted by: Fritz at January 24, 2006 12:41 AM

I too expected a few more seats maybe 130-135 but most governments that come in like this with a minority go on to form majority government.
A majority government was wishful thinking at this time.

Economics is probably playing a huge part in this Ont is worried. The Ford announcement today is only the beggining. A lot of manufacturing anything dependent on US purchasing is going to be in for a rough ride. That probably explains why BC and ONT stayed to the left. Both have heavey Union membership reliant on the US.

Atlantic Canada has got its head up it's ass. 30 years of a government check and nothing has changed there you would think those people might figure that a change to something different couldn't make life any worse and give a chance for something better.

Quebec has done the lets give the left a chance and it's not working looks like they may swing right again. Surprise, surprise.

I don't understand how anyone could vote for the crooks either.

Posted by: Jeff Cosford at January 24, 2006 12:43 AM

Look at these guys. Pretty close or what?

electionprediction.com

Posted by: Andy Elliott at January 24, 2006 12:46 AM

Look at these guys. Pretty close or what?

electionprediction.com

Posted by: Andy Elliott at January 24, 2006 12:47 AM

Disappointing indeed, with piddly numbers like 125 I sure aint tearing up my ASP card.

That said, we won't have a provincial vote for a couple of years yet, and Harper may be able to make a go of it. Elected Senate was a clear promise, if 125 is enough to pull it off, it's a good start.

Posted by: Enkidu at January 24, 2006 12:47 AM

Step one- Destroy or impound every document shredder in every government office in the land.
Step two- Unleash Sheila Fraser, the 300 new auditors that were hired by Alcock(and no b....), and the RCMP on every suspicious government account.
Step three- Start prosecuting Libranos right around the time they gather to pick a new leader. Given the state of the Librano finances, that convention will likely be held at the Oshawa Circle 8. If they can get a deal.:)

Posted by: Bill Greenwood at January 24, 2006 12:48 AM

I must say, I thought our country was lost already. I had no faith in Canadians to do the right thing. For the first time, with the Harper win, no matter how tight, I have some hope.

Congratulations Prime Minister Harper!

Posted by: Lanny at January 24, 2006 12:48 AM

Remember it wasn't that long ago Conservatives held 2 seats just 2 seats in the House of Commons. Today we form the government.

Posted by: Jeff Cosford at January 24, 2006 12:49 AM

Some of you may remember that twit of a politics student from Waterloo, Mark Johnston who has been writing such biased rubbish in the uni newspaper IMPRINT. He is also the local director of the Liberals in Kitchener-Cos. His three term candidate lost....wonder if he'll still be sprouting more of the same old rubbish come next issue of IMPRINT?

Posted by: Dave t at January 24, 2006 12:51 AM

HORSE RACE IN THE ISLES:

NDP Catherine J. Bell is LOSING by .4 percent against the Conservative John Duncan

Posted by: Sailor Republica at January 24, 2006 12:52 AM

I am a little sad about the results, but very happy at the same time. This is the chance the Canadian voter's have given Mr. Harper to show what he's got!
I can say now: Prime Minister Harper!!!!!!!

This is something to be very happy about. The house cleaning in the HC wasn't as large as we wanted but WAIT TELL THEY SEE OUR MAN IN ACTION!

Posted by: MaryM at January 24, 2006 12:52 AM

Congratulations to Stephen Harper and the Conservative party.

Posted by: Jeff Cosford at January 24, 2006 12:53 AM

I don't think we'll have enough votes to even scrap the Gun Registry, Libs 103 + BQ 51 = 154 ! At best maybe investagate it!

Posted by: Carl at January 24, 2006 12:53 AM

Geezus. You know, if you keep telling other Canadian they're stupid, they're no gonna sympathize. Stop being so bloody shrill and petulant. I mean, maybe you guys should just stop voting Conservative, eh? How about that? It's the same bloody logic.

Let's see what Harper and his people can do. If they do well, they'll get more seats next time around. Sheeesh.

(Having said all that, I'm glad Martin is gone.)

Posted by: Soviet Canuckastani at January 24, 2006 12:54 AM

Jeff: "Remember it wasn't that long ago Conservatives held 2 seats just 2 seats in the House of Commons. Today we form the government"

- you missed an important point...that was the old PC's...good riddance, just as greedy as the Liberals.

This is a colation of the new Conservatives and past Reformers.

Posted by: tomax at January 24, 2006 12:55 AM

"if you keep telling other Canadian they're stupid, they're no gonna sympathize"

Maybe if Ontario realizes we don't want sympathy but accountablity and a fair chance. Don't tell me they gave it to us tonight, some like the Ottawa area did, but a majority stayed with the same crooks.

Remove the Alberta and western vote and should show you how did the Conservatives did.

I don't want sympathy.

Posted by: tomax at January 24, 2006 1:01 AM

I think Andrew Coyne made a good point in his NY times column Tomax. The old Conservative party just tried to take over the Liberal organization all the ties that they had.

It appears Prime Minister is going to try and dismantle it. Not try to control it. Therefore when and if the Liberals ever form another government they won't be able to pick up where they left off.

Posted by: Jeff Cosford at January 24, 2006 1:01 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong but dosn't the Bloc have some pretty heavey Conservative ties.

This could get interesting if Harper and Dueceppe come to an arrangement. Dueceppe hates the Libs and thats probably why PMPM resigned.

Posted by: Jeff Cosford at January 24, 2006 1:04 AM

Bonus!!!

That windbag Alcock is out!!!!!!! So is Sniffy and Yappy Annie!!!!!!!!!!!!

The big loser tonight..... Duceppe..... lost 3 seats and 6% of the pv.

Syncro

Posted by: Syncrodox at January 24, 2006 1:08 AM

My point still stands, Tomax. The stuff I've read here about Toronto and Vancouver is just sad. Call them stupid all you want, but why the hell would they vote Conservative? You want accountabiluty? So do I. And guess what, The Liberals lost this election. Fair chance? Got it, Haper is PM. But the kind of stident, over the top nonsense I've read in this thread will condem the CPC minority status for a long time.

Posted by: Soviet Canuckastani at January 24, 2006 1:14 AM

Well, Herle got beat by nearly 4000 votes, after dominating at one polling station.

Posted by: Saskboy at January 24, 2006 1:17 AM

So the Libs can call conservatives racists, biggots, homophobes, nazi sympathisers, and so forth and its ok but if the Cons are upset because so many Canadians voted for a corrupt party we are extreme - what are you getting at Soviet Canuckastani?

Posted by: Fritz at January 24, 2006 1:20 AM

1. It's not OK for Liberals to say that kind of BS, and not all Libs say that.
2. If you call people "stupid" b/c they vote for another party, why the hell should bother reaching out to you?

Posted by: Soviet Canuckastani at January 24, 2006 1:25 AM

Bruinooge edges out Alcock by 110 votes!!! Congratulations Rod!

Paul Martin drove a huge wedge not only between the various parties but also within his own party. The schisms that he created within the liberal community in his quest for power are very deep and will be extremely difficult to repair.

I saw an online poll asking who the next liberal leader will be - amongst the choices were Kinsella & Copps. Could you imagine the civil war within that party if either of them went for it?

Posted by: Mark at January 24, 2006 1:25 AM

All I have to say is:

!@#$ YOU, MEAGHAN WALKER-WILLIAMS! YOU HAVE BEEN !@#$ING PROVED WRONG! HA!

Okay. I'm done.

Posted by: Sailor Republica at January 24, 2006 1:31 AM

just heard Prime Minister Harper; altho I was disappointed by the voters in Ontario, I feel inspired to work for promoting conservative ideas in Canada. When liberalism faces conservatism in the battlefield of ideas, conservatism wins. Canadians just need more exposure to conservative ideas. More work ahead. congratulations to Mr. Harper and everyone who worked on conservative campaigns.

Posted by: ex-liberal at January 24, 2006 1:48 AM

Mr. Harper delivered a noble speech. I wish him well.

Myself I'd show my disappointment to the Maritimes and Ontario, but at the same time willing to work with them.

Wonder how many noses got out of joint because he said the "West is in" and "God bless Canada".

cheers
tom

Posted by: tomax7 at January 24, 2006 1:50 AM

Soviet..I would not agree with those who would choose to use the word "stupid"...But it does fail logic to think that anyone who read The Sun's 196 reasons not to vote for Paul Martin would still have voted for Paul Martin.

Now for other thoughts:

Notable: Ottawa and area went mostly Conservative, those who work with the Liberals did not want them.

Strong gains in Quebec for a "western" party.

Better relations with our biggest trading partner.

Also...We live in rural Ontario, can we annex that to Alberta???

Posted by: Annie at January 24, 2006 1:52 AM

My fellow Torontonians once again put gay marriage, the right to eliminate inconvenient life, and xenophobic hatred of the West, the USA, and Christianity, ahead of responsible government and accountability. We get the representation we deserve.

The good news: Canada has a strong, principled leader who will have a good 12-24 months to prove himself. Harper has a strong Quebec caucus that will grow in the next election, as he has put the separatist movement back at least a decade. He has a clear mandate thanks to a clear campaign platform. No party will dare vote against a reduction in the GST. Martin is out, and Ignatieff will raise the level of discourse in this country as next Liberal leader. Bring him on. Layton is neutered, as the Libs can't threaten to bring down the gov't for a long time. Duceppe is both neutered and shamed. Peter McKay is neutered after a weak showing in his own riding. Bay Street will hop on board as the CPC will allow bank mergers to proceed.

The bad news? Looks like Toronto-Montreal-Vancouver may never join in, making a Harper majority a likely impossibility. Remaining Libs will be ugly and obstructionist, as will the Bloc. Media will work hard to portray this as a Conservative defeat.

Posted by: NCF TO at January 24, 2006 1:52 AM

Annie

If it doesn't work out you can become part of Alberta!!!

Syncro

Posted by: Syncrodox at January 24, 2006 1:53 AM

1)Thank you, Quebec, for the 10 seats! Your openness to the new Conservatives really has made a difference in the way I view you!
2)Great job in Palliser, Dave!
3)Shame on you, Wascana.
4)Hope there'll be a recount in northern Sask.
5)How come the Libs get 103 seats? is that fair?

Posted by: Moose Javian at January 24, 2006 1:55 AM

Yeah, that's true Annie. But let's recall that people just weren't voting "against Paul Martin". The Liberals are deeply, deeply entrenched in Toronto, particuarly among immigrants. Frankly a lot of people think all politicians are corrupt, so that's not enough of a winning issue. And when I see people basically stamping their feet and saying "Torntonians are stupid"... let me tell you that's not a very effective campaign strategy.

Disclaimer: I'm not from Toronto. And I don't live there.

Posted by: Soviet Canuckastani at January 24, 2006 2:01 AM

You can only glean one thing from these results, Its very difficult to pull pigs away from the trough. Or for that matter elitrsts away from power. There is no excuse for the abuse our democracy took tonight from the voters in Atlantic Canada and Toronto, Amglo Montreal and Vancouver. For Shame that you could vote for the Party of Entitlrmrnt.

Posted by: Jim at January 24, 2006 2:07 AM

Soviet, point taken. However, keep in mind that the people here are not campaigning. We are voicing our opinions and in the past, our frustrations at not having a voice in our country.

I, for one, was voting FOR the conservatives. To call all politicians corrupt is a cop out. Does power corrupt - definitely, especially 12 years of power. However, Harper ran on positive messages and one of the most positive was his federal accountability act. He wants to do what he can to restore accountability in government. What I and others cannot believe is that the liberals could be supported after the lack of ethics in the past 12 years. Canada can do better and Canadians deserve more. I would respect the liberal voters more if they had voted NDP - an ideology I completely reject however I could understand. Looking at everything - and we could argue many points - it is beyond my understanding how this government could be supported.

Posted by: Lanny at January 24, 2006 2:09 AM

To kick a dead horse, has anyone found where those thousands of student votes ended up.

:-)

I still can't believe so many voted for Liberals, it just boggles the mind.

Posted by: tomax at January 24, 2006 2:14 AM

Lanny,

The economy is pretty strong. Unemployment is low. Interest rates are low. Sure, the Libs got their hands caught in the cookie jar... it's not the only issue.

2nd disclaimer: I didn't vote Liberal either. I'm just distressed at the really shrill stuff I read above.

Posted by: Soviet Canuckastani at January 24, 2006 2:18 AM

Now... see the stuff "Jim" wrote? I mean, come on. "Abuse of democracy". I guess these people are "pigs".

Posted by: Soviet Canuckastani at January 24, 2006 2:25 AM

Well, it's a sad fact that 1/3 of the people are on the right, 1/3 are on the left and the remaining 1/3 "lukewarmers" vaccilate between the two depending on who offers them the best deal.

The bright note is that there will now be some accountibility. That's going to haunt the Liberals for some time.

Posted by: ol hoss at January 24, 2006 2:38 AM

Soviet, you are seeing alot of anger at the abuse in government. I believe people have a right to be angry and in fact, if they aren't angry over this abuse, then there is something wrong.

Do some people go too far? Definitely but you will find it on all sides in politics. I have seen far worse from some of the lib bloggers out there!

Posted by: Lanny at January 24, 2006 2:39 AM

I STILL THINK THEY CHEATED !

Posted by: Chris from Victoria, BC at January 24, 2006 2:45 AM
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