He's a real cock-up, that's fer damn sure! As are all Libranos!

Don't despair Corrections Officers, the way Liberal scandals keep multiplying, Alcock could be a future guest of yours.

Reg Alcock displays the same abhorrent attitude that is so popular with his LPoC counterparts. I'm still utterly amazed, that in the twenty first century, there are still people that would have these morons continue to ruin what once was a great country. I sincerely hope that the CPC can pick up the pieces and return us to that former glory.

Anybody suppose that this might see the light of day in the MSM? Me neither.

However I will forward it to Stephen Harpers new best friend David Asper. I'm sure he will want to sit on it, I mean run it, the day before Canadians go to the polls.

Well, given that the Liberals have dumped all over veterans in this campaign, it was only a matter of time before they started going after corrections officers, firemen and cops.

But, could anyone really expect better from this spineless, craven Liberal wimp? As they say. "Alcock . . . no ba**s."

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Liberal_Party_of_Canada&oldid=35428380

I'm in Reg's riding. Calling people around the area, I was amazed at how many people told me they were going to vote for this arrogant b*****rd. Of course, even more people had no comment at all.

Canadian Jewish News
It also coincided with Treasury Board president Reg Alcock’s pledge of $100 million
... Asper envisaged the museum he was proposing for Winnipeg as an ...
www.cjnews.com/viewarticle.asp?id=6185 - 22k -

AlCock $$$$$$ loves tax dollars $$$$$$

Maybe we should summon the Lions of Judah for a proper ballot box mauling.

i have to point out that the fight was between the libs (allcock) and an ndp supporting public sector union over wages and pensions. the out of whack increase in both is what has driven the govmt spending to record levels.

the cons will be hard pressed to limit the wage and pension growth and hence they will run against the well organized unions which will do to harper what they did to harris in ontario.

imo there is always something worse than a socialist leaning liberal: that's a full fledged socialist!

I'm an ex-“Windypeg” boy, and I am not surprised that they are sticking with Reg, as they had with Axworthy. Fear of change, the desire not to be left out, refusal to think...

Sadly, a person's natural tendency is to seek immediate personal benefit. Fortunately, this can be cured. The usual approach takes about 18 years, involves a mother and a father, and a really rigorous moral framework (aka: religion).

"Assuredly, if we do not all hang together, we shall all hang separately." People need this explained to them in little tiny words: In a battle, the individual is statistically safer if he runs away, rather than stay in the fight. However, if this becomes common, then the battle becomes a rout and the army gets mowed down like grass, and the odds of individual safety plummet.

(Sorry - did I say tiny? I get paid to pontificate...)

So too for societies: we must engage the long view.

A nice illustration involves doctors and garbage collectors: better a society should lose the former than the latter. Hey, I tried to find a political illustration, but the body count was getting too high...

Henry

This is the same idiot that told Peter Warren that he would never, ever appear on Warren's show again...apparently he did not like the fact that some of the listeners were asking tough questions about issues.

They must be "dumb as posts" to let a statist twinkie like Alcock steal their pension funding then throw them into the coddled ranks of club fed prisoners with no means of self defense.

Anger begets fear. Just what are these guys afraid of. Time and again we see some Liberal just losing it like this.

What ever has been going on for the last 13 years in the Fed Gov. has got to be serious indeed.

This is not some guy going to lose his job. Many of these people have great pensions, so what's driving these irrational outburts?

Fear of not controlling others, Jeff Cosford.

Did Alcock (and no b....) actually decisde to boycott Peter Warren? Too cool. He was on there last fall and I was one of the callers who brought up three of the issues that have been brought up here. When I said that the Libranos give money to "political action" groups that then funnel some of that money back to the Libs, and pointed out that it was technically "racketeering", he got rather angry and said that this was the kind of drive-by smear (sound familiar?) that was common from the us in the Conservative Party. He then said that if I felt so strongly that this was criminal behavior, then I should take my documents to the RCMP and file a complaint. He was noticeably hot under the collar by this point. I was at the card lock filling my truck up at the time, and the guy in the TriCan truck at the next pump figured out that I was on the radio as he was listening. He laughed out loud when he saw how upset I was about the issue, and shook my hand for doing what he was too shy to do. Just doing my part :)

With apologies to Alice Cooper/Guns'n Roses

Only Liberals Bleat

Uncle Paulie’s got the public
To take heed
He’s got the power
They’re like sheep
Hand over their tax dollars
Feed their families, if they can
Cry ‘we’re poor’ every year at tax time
Paulie and friends don’t give a damn.

Let the Liberals bleed
Let the Liberals bleed
Let the Liberals bleed

The Liberals will make your hair gray
They’re Canada’s biggest mistake
All we Tories ever wanted, was an even break
Uncle Paulie tries to scare you
Only dumb lefties play his game
Spends your money on his buddies, while we all live in pain.

Let the Liberals bleed
Let the Liberals bleed
Let the Liberals bleed
Let the Liberals bleed

On election day they’ll be crying
Smokin’ and drinkin’ to kill the pain
Cried abortion once too often
Now people laugh right in their face

Only Liberals bleed
Only Liberals bleed
Only Liberals bleed

He cries ‘scary Stephen’ all the time
Hidden agendas, too tough on crime
But it took poor old Gomery
To clean up all the Liberal grime
And now here we are, down on our knees, screaming please
LET THEM BLEED

Hear the Liberals bleat
Hear the Liberals bleat
Hear the Liberals bleat

Okay, he sounds dumb as mud. Now, for those of us below the border: Treasury Board? Is that like the US Department of the Treasury? Is Alcock appointed like the Sec. of the Treasury?

'Cause if he's elected, somebody's been screwed! And it ain't just the Corrections Officers!

el duderino: Didn't Maggie in the UK have powerful Unions against her? They can be fought. They can be defeated.

Benning, Maggie single-handedly brought the UK's unions to their knees when she took away their power to scare their members into voting. She allowed folks in subsidized housing to buy their property for a song with mortage rates so low, they didn't have to pay more than they would for rent. When she came to power, the unions had decimated the UK economy, and when they couldn't afford to give the nurses a pay hike, the government guaranteed mortgages for all nurses wanting to buy flats or houses. She completely broke the coal miners' union. People, mainly union leaders, hated for it. But she did it. Thus, the Iron Lady :-)

Corrections Officers keep solid Liberal voters in jail, Alcock is lashing out at Officers as a way of representing some of his best constituents.
-An important task since they may also be future Liberal Party roommates!

They bitch slapped the four mounties familys with that buy out offer now they are starting on corrections officer. Well may as well slagg everyone
before it's all over.

benning: i agree they can. i was trying to point out that this is a dispute where we'd better not take sides, as both sides are our ideological adversaries.

furthermore, taking sides would be to our disadavantage since the unions will have the same demands come Jan 24, only this time the cons will be at the receiving end.

From day one Allcock has worked on the idea that if he barks loud enough and long enough that he will intimidate people who dissagree with him into submission. I would like to see him in the care of the correctional officers (that he hates os much)and try barking at Baba.

"I was at the card lock filling my truck up at the time, and the guy in the TriCan truck at the next pump"

You should pass along the name of the gas station to Reg, as he may need the job. Come Tuesday, he'll be an opposition bag man, sans money et bag with the Chretienites sharpening their Henckel kitchen sat as they prepare to fillet the large side of Beef from Winnipeg.

Filet et Ignominy.

Plato, something as incendiary as a Reg should not be allowed to pump gasoline.

This is off topic but for me it sums up my feelings with respect to the Liberal party of Canada.

When I look at the way the campaign has been run, by the Liberals, and the Conservatives, it becomes patently clear to me that the ideology of the ruling Liberal elite has become extreme in the quest to maintain their grip on power. A grasp which has been engineered in the last 13 years on the basis of pitting people against people, region against region, and ideological extreme against ideological extreme. This is not the Canada I grew up in. As a child and as a young man, I knew what it meant to be a Canadian, and I had a firm unshakable grasp of my identity as a Canadian. This has been slowly but surely eroded over the last 20 years, and it has to end. As an Albertan, I keep seeing my national identity slipping into the background, and my sentiment towards cutting loose of Confederation becoming stronger and more profound every year. This is not what I want, this is not what Alberta in general wants, but we are running out of choices here in Wild Rose country. This has become more and more pronounced in Alberta, especially in the last 2 years. I believed, and many of the people I know believed, that Paul Martin was going to be a beacon of hope for Alberta, and provide us the reasons we seek to stick with Confederation. The polls show categorically that most Albertan⿿s feel very betrayed, and we are at a crossroads in our relationship with Confederation. Alberta is called the whining province, the spoiled little brother, who always screams foul. People see us as rich, and wonder ⿿what more do you need⿿, ⿿what are you complaining about⿿, without really bothering to take the time to understand our grievances. People in Alberta are very, very intelligent as a general rule. Calgary is a good example. Did you know that over 50% of Calgarian⿿s have at least one year of University, and most, if not all, have a high school diploma. We are not idiots out here, but we are profoundly simple in our methodologies. People in Alberta believe in straight talk, honesty above all, and that hard work will move you forward. We don⿿t leave our poor or broken in the streets, but we do not coddle those who can be better than they are. We strive to achieve and succeed, where others will not. These basic beliefs are not just idle talk. Our own government provincially holds to these ideals, it is ingrained in our society here, and anyone coming to work and live here, quickly gets absorbed into that philosophy. It⿿s hard to fail when so many around you want you to succeed. It⿿s both a culture, and a philosophy that goes unspoken, but everyone here feels it. When we look at our contribution to Confederation, which is considerable at $9.3 billion in the last fiscal year, and is essentially all of our oil revenue, plus another billion. Then we turn to see corruption, scandal, largess, arrogance, and disdain for our opinion, and we realize this isn⿿t right. This isn⿿t acceptable. We as a province do not want more power than other provinces, we are not seeking to place ourselves above the rest of the country⿦ that⿿s not the way we do things here. We simply want an equal voice in what goes on in the nation. We want our vote to be equal to a vote by a person in any other part of the country, and it isn⿿t. We are not alone in this either, BC feels very much the same. There are 7.5 million people between Alberta and BC, yet despite constituting 24% of the nations population, we have less than 10% of the voice of the nation. I say to you people who profess to be Liberal, or NDP, is not the founding principle, the single most important principle of Liberalism in general, that fact that all people are equal? Does this not fly in the face of a democratic process which gives me as an Albertan one quarter of the voice of a person from PEI? Where is the liberal, democratic principle in this? No, it has to change, and whether the rest of Canada wants it or not, it will change. Stephan Harper represents Alberta⿿s last hope to begin the process of inclusion into Confederation, he is the last straw of Alberta. Should Monday provide a Liberal government, even in the form of a minority, it will be the straw that broke the camels back. Canada will have for once and for all broken the faith with Alberta. You will have shown us that corruption, and larceny, are acceptable, and that Alberta⿿s voice means nothing, and the surge in the Seperation Party of Alberta will be manifest. Brothers and Sisters in Ontario, and Quebec, and the Maritimes, you need to understand this. Alberta doesn⿿t care who gets in, as long as it⿿s not the Liberal elite. You need to understand that we are not like Quebec, we don⿿t need to seek association with the rest of Canada, we choose to be in Canada, and we can very easily choose not to be. What does Canada have to offer Alberta, other than a labor pool. There are many great, great things about the nation, that are also important to us, but at the end of the day, what could the rest of the nation possibly offer us if we decided to take the steps necessary to say good-bye to Confederation? Alberta is the 9th largest producer of Oil in the world, after you take the Atlantic provinces out of the equation. We produce a million barrels a day currently, and we will be producing over 3 million in a short few years, with a resource that virtually every prediction shows will last Alberta more than 130 years. Canada as a nation cannot compete with that. On top of that, we have a $5 billion per year cattle industry, that our Federal Government already failed to protect once, and we won⿿t let them screw it up twice, and a modern manufacturing sector that is beginning to open a path in the global markets. No my friends, there is only one carrot you have to bargain with, and that is equality. Alberta will have an equal voice, and we will have it within the next decade, or we will write you as a nation a cheque for the bill and say good-bye. As a proud Canadian, and as an Albertan, I don⿿t want to see that happen. I want to be Canadian, but I won⿿t play the fool forever, and nor will my fellow Albertan⿿s. I voted for Stephen Harper last weekend, and I did it because I believe that he will begin the process of re-unifying this nation. I believe that he can help recreate a common identity, which we can all be proud of. I⿿m not suggesting he⿿s the great final hope or anything, but I believe he will start us on a more healthy, positive approach to Confederation. I urge all Canadians to go back to the books, and understand the truth of this, and think hard about how they cast their ballot. At the very least, CAST YOUR BALLOT!

Posted by: BillMac

Thanks, Bill for the great post

That's a long paragraph.

Now, getting back to Reg Alcock and his Liberal Party arrogance and implied threat to interfere with the stated Liberal platform to sow spiteful revenge against the pension plans of union members and public servants who dared to criticize him....

Peter Warren has it right on his site
"The radio program where treasury board Chairman Reg Alcock refuses to appear"
http://peterwarren.ca/

O.T.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20060121/SMARTPOLL21/National/Idx

Somehow the Globe seems to think that Mackays knitting comment has something to add to an article about the final polling numbers.

Ward - that's an old trick all media uses to throw mud. You should have seen the sideswips at George Bush.

I wish people would use the contact info and just blast them everytime they try it.

Bullwinkle, views are understandable and well taken. There are many outside of Alberta who look forward to a fairer and more equal governance of Canada. TG

Half a league, half a league,
Half a league onward,
All in the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.
'Forward, the Light Brigade!
Charge for the guns!' he said:
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.

On Monday
If I fall
Do not stop
Do not morn
Do not look back

Take the guns (Martin)
Take the guns (Goodale)
Take the guns (Liberals)
TAKE THE GUNS!!

VOTE

Reg Alcock was a panellist on Dave Rutherford's radio show the other day. He was so pompous, it made me want to reach through the radio and wring his fat neck. You could hear him snickering in the background while the other candidates were talking. He believes he is untouchable and will once again be crowned King of Winnipeg. I hope his arrogant a** gets turfed out by an electorate who wakes up and studies the issues this time.

** BREAKING NEWS FROM THE WESTERN STANDARD! **
- from Ezra Levant

Alphonse Gagliano had a criminal record before he received his post? RCMP Commissioner Norman Inkster recommended he be fingerprinted to confirm?

This wasn't done?

Questions that demand immediate answers from the Liberal Party!

Is the "Libranos" more than a name?

Does anyone remember that former Liberal executive Daniel Dezainde stated to the Gomery Commission that Joseph Morselli, a close Gagliano friend, threatened his life?

May I infer from this post that you are now able to view/read pdf files?

While I would like nothing better than to see Alcock given the boot on Monday, I'm afraid he will likely be re-elected. Of the 3 Librano seats in Manitoba, Alcock and Ray Simard should be save bets. Anita Neville is in a dogfight with the consevative candidate and a loss would look good on her.

Alcock and Simard have the luxury of running in ridings that give their unconditional support to the Librals. Perhaps one day people will wake up a see that by giving unconditional support to any party they are contributing to the arrogance we see in Ottawa.

That being said, I'm sure I will have to see the dipper Pat Martin re-elected in my riding. I will give the dippers credit for one thing. They have learned not to call, show up at my door or waste their time delivering literature this year.

Why isn't the mainstream media picking up on any of these last minute instances of verbal vomit. They didn't pick up on the Lib in RNP telling the WWII vet to move to the US and I havn't heard anything about this either. All they seem to want to talk about is how we're apparently hiding our candidates or that we'll outlaw abortion.

O/T, but John O'Sullivan has a good post at https://www.nationalreview.com/jos/osullivan200601191410.asp

Excuse me...I've got to go and erase the image of PMPM as a lumberjack in high heels, dress and warpaint out of my mind.

Henry

Even before the election we flagged Alcock's attitude towards broadcasters.

http://blackrod.blogspot.com/2005/11/laffair-alcock-sours-cbc-viewers.html

These union people are scum - they protest outside Alcock's house! Talk about making business personal. They are dumb as posts and can go to hell.

Alberta Rob: You have no idea what is going on and has been going on for four years. The Treasury Board has continued to effect the livelyhood of Correctional Officers and their families. These are the same officers that don't have the right to strike so are left little to do but talk. So it is fine that Alcock abuses Correctional Officers and their families, but heaven forbid those officers have a peaceful demonstration in front of his family home. Let me guess...you must be an inmate.

Mr. Alcock, or Totalprick, or Allweenie as he has been variously known, is a bellowing bully. There are more than the correctional officers who have been the victims of his loud, arrogant dismissiveness, and if some posters here don't have much sympathy for them, there is probably some more sympathy-worthy group somewhere else that have received the same treatment from Mr. Alcock. Others have called him the most obnoxious MP on the hill.

The poster, Schwartz, who stated he will probably be re-elected, is probably right, but that doesn't stop some of us Manitoba folks from hoping against hope that he will be turfed. All three Liebral ridings in Manitoba could be considered yellow dog ridings, but all three of them have turfed the Liebrals when the stench got bad enough. It may be bad enough this time. I don't have any champagne on ice for Monday night, I'm going to settle for popcorn and beer. But if arrogant bullies like Alcock or do-nothings (except prop up the Libranos) like Simard and Neville, get the heave-ho on Monday night we will have to consider an early purchase of champagne on Tuesday.

Perhaps old Alcock is a little tense to think of the Auditor General looking into the books at the Canadian (Western) Wheat Board???? You don't think there would be any skeletons in that closet do you??

Alcock is smug, because he can be. He has been for the last 12 yrs, and is so hubrus, he believes in the liberal parties devine right to govern, protectors of the charter...I suspect he will hang on, but Neville will not,,as she is as dumb as a brick anyways...12 liberals in Manitoba during the heydays for the libs,,,down to 2...Only two ridings still drinking the koolaid..

There are many who allow their better judgement to be clouded by the term "union". The latter is but the vehicle of change. Our goal is to be recognized as Peace Officers on the front line. If one took the time to look at our contract demands they are NOT about money, they are about "respect" and personal and Public Safety. Alcock would have everyone believe we are "knuckle dragging neanderthals". Do you realize if we spoke to an inmate like the way Alcock spoke to us, we would almost be guarenteed of being fired? Is it too much to ask to have our elected Members of Parliment treat us with respect and adhere to natural justice and the rule of law? Oh yeah, he also called us "terrorists" for having a street hockey game with our families in front of his house. Perhaps he could speak to the families of those who have lost spouses and siblings to "real" terrorist attacks in the United States and abroad? Bullying is a huge issue in out public schools, maybe as a "Conditional Restorative Justice Sentence" for Reg Alcock, we could have him denounce bullying at school assemblies?

Kate, still wondering - does this post mean that you are able to view or read PDF files now? I recall that after one of your posts previously, in which you linked to a pdf, and a number of your commenters totally misrepresented what was in the PDF, you claimed you could not read it yourself to vouch for the content.

So, am wondering.. have you read the PDF file that you've linked to here in this post? And does this mean that you'll be able to view and read any and all pdf's that you link to in the future?

Thanks.

What you all seem to forget is that these same corrections officers picketed his house and interfered with his childrens coming and goings. I am no apologist for Reg but when a union gets this far out of line, sometimes tempers flare.

Alcock shouldnt have reacted as poorly as he did but the major blame lies with the union members who wouldnt maintain a professional setting for their negotiations.

Colin,

You speak as though you are well informed of this union's actions? As I recall, the children were sent outside by their mother to retrieve the garbage and recycle containers? There was no interference in that. I am still perplexed what you assume to be "far out of line"? I would suspect our collegues i.e. the RCMP or WPS would have made such a judgement not you, and certainly not Reg. I am more inclined to think that for Public Safety Officers going without a contract for over 4 years while inmates are having rebate cheques delievered to their cells is "far out of line", don't you?

Colin,

You state that the union did not maintain a professional setting for their negotiations? 4 Years without a contract is showing that the government and Mr. Alcock is not just "unprofessional" but negligent for allowing this to happen. Let me see, you say it is OK for Alcock to get frustrated, but not people who have been working without a contract for 4 years?

Think about it Colin, while your Liberal friends are being voted out in large numbers for this common arrogant attitude!

People like Scott Reid, Scott Brison, Belinda Stronoch,John Duffy,etc,etc, are all arrogant Liberal assholes but the President of the club has to be that lard ass Reg Alcock.

So long Alcock...YOU IDIOT

I could not be happier about Alcock...........people with a brain have spoken!
Thank you!

well now i have just left a message with mr. alcocks office. how upset was i to find out this morning that he lost. it should not have happened this way. i should have found out last night, because he got his arrogant ass kicked. and well it just feels like a dream. i would give up a family related just for this. any woo i just have to say that his family was so terrorized by the utterly peacefull non event protest that the neighbor phoned old reg to tell him what was going on. imagine that. the neighbor. his family to scared to dial? even sent the kids outside. to terrified to stay inside. makes sense to me. when i am scared i send my kids downstairs to check out whatever too. man. anyways i hope you don't think this post is dumb. sincerly...dumb as a post...

Poor pooor Reg !! I guess he will be filling out that card for unemployment insurance over the next few days. What a loser!! The winners on the other hand are corrections officers that no longer have to deal with this ass clown and his arogant egotistical attitude. He said a week ago how "we can all go to hell !" You first Reg. Looks good on you that you that you lost your riding by a few hundred votes - sweet justice I say.

You know what is really sad. Reg gets the last laugh. Reg will get close to $80,000.00 pension for 13 yrs as an MP. A Correctional Officer with 30 yrs service will get about $25,000.00. Mmmmmm
makes you wonder don't it? Now you ask why we have been fighting for over 4 years? We need a better Parole system for our Officers!