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January 13, 2006

UPDATED: Oh, That Kind Of Liberal Coalition

Upperdate - the Liberals have dumped the candidate.

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Liberal Candidate Alleged to Have Offered Bribe to NDP Candidate

NDP News release;

The NDP has written to Elections Canada requesting an investigation into allegations that the Liberal candidate in Abbotsford, B.C., offered the NDP candidate in that riding a bribe in exchange for dropping out of the race, NDP Federal Secretary Eric Hebert said today.

The NDP candidate, Jeffery Hansen - Carlson, submitted a notarized statement federal NDP headquarters that outlines a meeting he had with the Liberal candidate and campaign manager on the evening of January 10. That sworn statement is attached (see link at http://www.ccnmatthews.com/docs/npdstat.pdf), along with a copy of Hebert's letter. "Mr. Hansen-Carlson's statement contains troubling information about Liberal Party actions that we believe to be contrary to the Canada Elections Act, and we had a responsibility to the voters in Abbotsford-and, indeed, voters throughout the country- to formally ask Elections Canada to investigate," said Hebert.

NOTE TO EDITORS/REPORTERS: Hansen-Carlson will be available for comment later today. To arrange an interview, please call Clay Suddaby in Vancouver at 604-313-1138.


Via Nealenews.....

I've saved the pdf's as jpgs that will pop-up when you click on the links. As was mentioned in the comments - this is front page material.

Page 1 of affadavit

Page 2 of affadavit


Just floated by on John Gormley Live - that CTV Newsnet is reporting that the Liberals and NDP are considering a formal coalition to "stop the Conservatives".

If true, it's the first overt admission by the Liberals that they're in deep, deep trouble.

Local pundits on the show at the time knew nothing of this ... could it be the work of THE MOLE? And who is this mole? Andrew Coyne has a mole poll...

Posted by Kate at January 13, 2006 1:58 PM
TrackBacks

More signs of desperation from Quotulatiousness
Small Dead Animals has the text of an affadavit from an NDP candidate who was offered a bribe to drop out of the race and throw his support to the Liberal candidate: page 1 and page 2. Hat tip to... [Read More]

Tracked on January 13, 2006 12:04 PM

POST-MORTEMS, ALREADY from Peaktalk
It may be premature but with nine days to go to the federal election, the picture for the ruling Liberals is beginning to look bleak. The Conservatives are steadily widening the gap in the polls and Liberals themselves are now... [Read More]

Tracked on January 13, 2006 2:46 PM

Canadian Educational Standards from Dr. Weevil
I shouldn’t mock, but, the second comment on this post at Small Dead Animals reads, in full: Can you spell W-E-S-T-E-R-N S-E-P-E-R-A-T-I-O-N? That would be a lot more eloquent if &$145;Colin’ had spelled ‘separation’ right. None ... [Read More]

Tracked on January 13, 2006 4:57 PM

More signs of desperation from Quotulatiousness
Small Dead Animals has the text of an affadavit from an NDP candidate who was offered a bribe to drop out of the race and throw his support to the Liberal candidate: page 1 and page 2. Hat tip to... [Read More]

Tracked on January 13, 2006 5:27 PM

50 Ways To Lose Your Power from Captain's Quarters
The run of luck that the Liberals enjoyed last spring while the Gomery inquiry jumped into the headlines must seem like a lifetime ago to Paul Martin. Tonight, a new scandal has broken out north of the border, as our... [Read More]

Tracked on January 14, 2006 12:18 AM

Is Canada On the Verge of an Effective Two Party System? from The Wild Duck
With Action Democratique’s Mario Dumont steering voters away from the separatist Bloc Quebecois yesterday, and rumors at small dead animals and CTV that the Liberal Party and NDP may form a formal coalition in the coming week, the possibility of ... [Read More]

Tracked on January 24, 2006 11:25 PM

Comments

Nothing wrong with forming a coalition. It's only blinder-clad conservatives who don't seem to want to work in harmony.

Posted by: Ron at January 13, 2006 10:03 AM

Can you spell W-E-S-T-E-R-N S-E-P-E-R-A-T-I-O-N

Posted by: Colin at January 13, 2006 10:04 AM

Ron,

There is an obvious coalition between your brain and your anus

Posted by: Colin at January 13, 2006 10:05 AM

A mole poll ...

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at January 13, 2006 10:08 AM

Colin...I would hope so. I'm sure conservatives know that the anal pore rules the brain. Just try getting yours sewn up and see how long your brain lasts.

Posted by: Ron at January 13, 2006 10:10 AM

Coalition Government's are just as dangerous as a fascist, Your opposition is completely helpless. They would be overruled with every motion brought forward, history repeats itself Pre-WWII Europe. But then again look what happened last summer with the backroom deal between the liberal's & NDP would'nt you consider that a coalition. If this is true you will see the beginning of the end of Canada's existance.

Posted by: bryan at January 13, 2006 10:19 AM

Ron,

I tried that, but I can't reach the control pedal on my wife's pfaff whilst I'm bent over backwards with my pants around my ankles.

I guess I'll never see the world the way you do...(sniff, sniff) :(

Posted by: Colin at January 13, 2006 10:19 AM

PMPM says he loves Canada but seems to be willing to destroy it at every turn. He is the single most scary man I have ever laid eyes on.

This does in my mind, make this one of the most historic important weeks in the history of this country.

We are on the verge of seeing a truly socialist country ruled by the supreme court.


I can only hope that this drives many undecided voters to the conservatives, especially in Central Canada.

Posted by: VandenBrink at January 13, 2006 10:27 AM

Coiln...Don't despair, nobody else including wife, family/friends sees the world as I do.

Posted by: Ron at January 13, 2006 10:32 AM

".....a coalition of the idiots....." (hat tip to Carolyn Parrish!)

heh.

Posted by: Eskimo at January 13, 2006 10:32 AM

Manuel from Fawlty Towers is the mole.

I never trusted that guy.

Ralph Goodale is the major.

Posted by: Plato's Stepchild at January 13, 2006 10:34 AM

The liberals dont want to listen to the facts becuase it gets in the way of their rediclous ideas

Posted by: BIRDZILLA at January 13, 2006 10:39 AM

I've edited the post to steal Matt's suggestion... LOL

Posted by: Kate at January 13, 2006 10:51 AM

A coalition of the willing!

Yikes!

Posted by: Colin at January 13, 2006 10:54 AM

In the long run this would be a good thing as it would finally polarize the electoral map into (ignoring the Block) a two party system. Cenrist Liberals would likely join and support the CPC while the Liberal Brain Trust (NDP) could finally set policy for it's own Party rather than the Liberals that implemented it while masquerading as a centrist party.

Jack Layton (the Video Professor) speaks better for the lefties anyway. The only question this begs is, can the Power Corp puppet masters live with the Video Professor?

Posted by: John Chittick at January 13, 2006 10:59 AM

Oh great, Criminal-commie coalition that'll last ;-)

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at January 13, 2006 11:08 AM

We likely won't need to worry about this. If the polls keep up like they are now there is a good chance that the Lib + NDP "coalition" will still have fewer seats than the CPC.

We can only hope.

Posted by: Jeff at January 13, 2006 11:10 AM

Coalition with the NDP ... offering a bribe ....

Man, when the wheels fall off, they really fall off. Long may this trainwreck continue.

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at January 13, 2006 11:12 AM

Jeff I dont know. Got to look at the math. Cretin had majorities only because the right had two parties splitting the vote. I think the question of majority lies in how many seats are picked up in Quebec.

Posted by: Perkunas at January 13, 2006 11:15 AM

You'll notice that most projections don't see NDP + Libs matching CPC seats, never mind majority. HAHA

It's also looking like it's an "interesting" type of coalition! Love the Drudge siren.

Posted by: annextraitor at January 13, 2006 11:16 AM

This is the stake through the vampires heart.

Everyone should take the time and read the notarized statement that is posted.

This is front page news stuff.

Bye bye Mr. Dithers..

Posted by: Artemis at January 13, 2006 11:19 AM

Can hardly wait for the Brison vs Robinson hissy fits overt who gets to decorate Stornaway. Stornaway gets remodled into an attached duplex. Martin and Layton mowing the lawn Saturday mornings. What a hoot!

Posted by: Bullwinkle at January 13, 2006 11:19 AM

hmmmm, didn't think jean was gonna have any tough decisions. how's this work? they incorporate before the election. i thought it was the party with the most seats that formed the government? go ahead, form a coalition. do we need to show up in the house? we've got the keys. harper and team have gained an EXTREME amount of experience with the way that government works. the house is not the only expression of power. 1. fund, 2. investigate, 3. punish. open the gates to the west. delegate responsibilties to the strong and free.

Posted by: Ottawa Core at January 13, 2006 11:20 AM

Via the CBC web site:

Martin announces support for firefighters

Last Updated Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:29:20 EST

CBC News

The Liberals would put $25 million into a new fund to support the families of firefighters and other emergency responders who die on the job, as part of a package aimed at public security workers.

Standing in front of a phalanx of firefighters in Niagara Falls, Ont., Paul Martin announced the new "heroes fund," which would provide $250,000 to the families of firefighters, police officers and other public safety officers who are killed on the job.
....

Putting aside my temptation to have fun with that headline, the whole thing sounds decidedly ... AMERICAN(!)

Firefighters as heroes? Where have I heard that before?

But I can honestly say that Uncle Paulie could use a hero or two to put out the current Liberal sh%tstorm.

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at January 13, 2006 11:21 AM

Bullwinkle,

Love your post regarding Stornaway!

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at January 13, 2006 11:22 AM

I can't wait for the "Hanson-Carlson Tapes"

Posted by: Colin at January 13, 2006 11:25 AM

Where's maz2's 17 paragraph conspiracy theory when you need it the most?

Posted by: Ron at January 13, 2006 11:25 AM

Bullwinkle:

Maybe they'll call in "Queer eye for the Coalition guys"

Posted by: Colin at January 13, 2006 11:27 AM

FWIW - this wouldn't be the first time. After the 1985 election in Ontario, the Conservatives had a plurality of seats in the legislature. The Peterson Liberals entered into a formal agreement with the NDP and formed the government. Democracy in action.

Posted by: John B at January 13, 2006 11:29 AM

That flashing siren always makes me think of Lieutenant Frank Drebbin of Police Squad. Played by Canadian actor Leslie Nielson. Brother of former Canadian cabinet minister Erik Nielsen. Cabinet of Brian Mulroney. Irish Eyes Are Smiling. Like Kate's eyes.

Sirens. Eyes. Whites of Eyes. Smiling.

Whipe that smirk off your face.

Posted by: Plato's Stepchild at January 13, 2006 11:29 AM

Coalition???

They would have to have to be able to make a case to the GG that they could run parliament better than the CPC....it is too late to pull candidates, as the CPC learned.

So it would have to be a parliamentary coalition.

I dont know if M. Jean would be that dumb. To give the keys to a government to a coalition that has fewer seats combined than the largest party in parliament.

I could see it under some circumstances

1) If it did NOT include the previous ruling party
2) That the previous ruling party had an air of stink about it that "the good of the country" meant that there would be a new government in place
3) There was evidence or a strong belief in electoral fraud by the winner

Anything short of that then perhaps we would see

Soldiers
Soldiers with guns
In cities
In Canadian Cities

Once again, a flea flicker hail mary pass from deep in the end zone.

Bets on how long the NDP tales to quash the rumour.

Posted by: Stephen at January 13, 2006 11:30 AM

Can they not just have the decency to go?

I thought not.

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at January 13, 2006 11:34 AM

Plato's Stepchild

"We advance to the truth by the experience of error; we succeed through failures. We know not how to do right except by having done wrong... Such is the process by which we succeed; we walk to Heaven backwards." – John Henry Cardinal Newman

Is this your blog/site?

Posted by: Ron at January 13, 2006 11:45 AM

I've said this several times over the last couple months on several blogs. I was the first to predict this. Pardon me if I repeat it.

"Mark my word folks. We are witnessing the end of a once proud political force in Canada. Remember the PCs under Mulrooney? Remember the Socreds in BC [under Vander Zam]? Remember the Alliance? Well, we'll be saying the same about the Liberals in a few years.

"There is indeed a split in the Liberal Party. But if the Chretien camp think they can help destroy the Martin camp and then build it up again after they've "gotten rid" of Martin, they are in for a surprise. That's not the way it's done in Canada.

The Liberal Party of Canada is fading into irrelevance. Good by! Good riddance."

Canada has a way of dealing with corrupt political parties.

I predict, once again, the end of the Liberal Party of Canada as a relevant political force in Canada.

Posted by: John Crittenden at January 13, 2006 11:47 AM

Is this your blog/site?

Why yes it is. Are you asking that question because of admiration or disgust?

Posted by: Plato's Stepchild at January 13, 2006 11:48 AM

Finally....!

For years I have been the lone voice calling for a ==> UNITE THE LEFT

This is why Liberals are known as ..LIARS..
Claiming to be something they are ..NOT..

We need a polarization in Canadian politics.
Left vs. Right
Conservativism vs. Socialism

We don't need to bastardize democracy into a multitude of differing party's, all pushing socialism while claiming to be something else.

Trudeau invented this bastardization of the Canadian political scene,
I Quote: the only way socialists can get elected in a democracy is to
..Infiltrate the ruling party and change it from within..

It was this infiltration that caused the breakup of the conservative party after Mulroney.

Reformers got sick and tired of backdoor socialists trying to take the conservatives to the left, true right wingers were given a place to put their vote...the reform party..

If this coalition of the two left leaning party's in Canada is for real, I for one will rejoice, all those right wingers in the liberal party, the ones who were fooled or tricked into voting liberal, thinking they were voting for a party of the middle, will have no where to park their vote, except the conservatives.

It's about time, the truth is, we conservatives
still outnumber the socialists, and with the blinders taken off, real conservatism will flourish.

Thank God..!

Posted by: william wylie Ajax,Ont. at January 13, 2006 11:48 AM

It's not in Jack's long-term interests to prop up the Liberals. He actually stands to benefit from a Conservative government. If he can get his act together by the election after this, he could make a serious push for the position of Official Opposition.

Posted by: KRB at January 13, 2006 11:51 AM

Plato...I admire anyone that takes initiative like the way you have.

Posted by: Ron at January 13, 2006 11:51 AM

This isn't just another spoof is it?

If it isn't it gives weight to the premise of just how desperate the liberals are to hang on by any means.

The rules of the game is that the PM stays PM until he conceeds defeat. If after the last poll closes on the 23rd, Martin does the math and he can get enough seats with an NDP coalition, he tells the GG he can form government, so no need for him to step down so she can ask Harper to do it.

Until Bucky says "you win, I quit" the game ain't over.
He knows his only chance at staying leader is in a minority situation where the government could fall any day and the rank and file liberals are too scared to call a leadership convention should the other parties take that opportunity to force an election as soon as said leadership campaign is made official.

Posted by: gimbol at January 13, 2006 11:52 AM

jack, olivia, and paulie living in stornaway...

only in canada eh

Posted by: spike at January 13, 2006 11:52 AM

The stench emanating from the liberal party is becoming unbearable and I honestly hope for the sake of Canada that these liberals get kicked out.

Nothing wrong with that, as we all know from English 102 that human beings that have absolute power become corrupt. That is why an electorate in a democratic country has the option to vote for a different government. This will give the liberals (if they are going to exists at all after January 23) a time to cleanse themselves of all those thugs who obviously it has in its midst.

So, I sincerely and strongly hope and recommend that people (especially those in Central Canada) will vote conservative in this coming election. I don't want Paul Martin as a PM not even in a coalition with any other party. So, talk to your fam, your friends, your business partners, your neighbours about that.

Posted by: Robert Bedet at January 13, 2006 11:53 AM

Yeeeehaaa!

The Liberals are toast!

And Kate, you're not Drudge just yet.

Posted by: Doug at January 13, 2006 11:56 AM

real conservatism will flourish, hopefully not like its flourishing in the states.
Do you really follow the conservatism of the Bush brigade, looks like the right of women to abort if she wants is gone. They just finished stacking the supreme court. These are things we should be learning from not following.

Posted by: sam at January 13, 2006 11:57 AM

If the NDP entertain this it shows that they have absolutely no principles about them save one: a rabid, seething hatred and intolerance of conservative people everywhere.

When it all boils down, EVERYTHING ELSE is secondary.

Posted by: mark at January 13, 2006 11:59 AM

As the levels of desparation within the Liberal party continue to escalate, they are clearly willing to try just about anything to cling to power.

I only wish there was some mechanism to ensure that they can't destroy all the evidence of their corruption prior to their departure from Ottawa. No doubt there will be a lot of paper-shredding and hard-drive re-formatting/removals/destruction in the ensuing days.

Liberal Credo:

“Let every Canadian know, whether they wish us well or ill, we shall pay any price, break any law, meet any crook, betray any friend, bribe any foe, silence any dissent, to assure the survival of corruption and Liberal power.”

(apologies to JFK)

Posted by: oltx at January 13, 2006 12:01 PM

Robert...It's good to cleanse the rot and corruption, however, until the Canadian powerbroker elite disbands, the only thing that will be different will be the tint on the same pair of glasses. Harper to me doesn't seem like he will be able to crack the real cabal.

Posted by: Ron at January 13, 2006 12:04 PM

Plato's Stepchild,

I believe Ron is asking because, as a Liberal, he has no concept of property rights.

That's why they seem to have no problem stealing, whether it's money, other parties' platforms, or the public right to checks & balances.

Posted by: Reluctant Ninja at January 13, 2006 12:07 PM

And then I refresh and read his response...aaaahhhh well, wouldn't be the first time I've come off as a jerk :D

Posted by: Reluctant Ninja at January 13, 2006 12:09 PM

Bullwinkle:

Maybe they'll call in "Queer eye for the Coalition guys"
Posted by Colin at January 13, 2006 11:27 AM

How about Rick Mercer . . now that would make him funny :)

Posted by: Fred at January 13, 2006 12:09 PM

Layton has lost his firebrand. This to me is the mark of a person who's been gotten to. I would bet even money that the Desmaris gang has spoken with him.

Posted by: Ron at January 13, 2006 12:10 PM

Ron - Agreed! Already the Desmarais family has sent one of its sirens/stepford daughters to haunt and ensnare the future leader of the CPC, MacKay

Posted by: evilprinceweasel at January 13, 2006 12:13 PM

I've mentioned the possiblility of an Liberal-NDP coalition in a number of comments sections on blog sites over the last few weeks. Now the main stream media are seeing the possibility, make no mistake Paul Martin will not go on his own volition. If the Conservatives do not attain a clearcut majority then Martin will be taking direction from Layton. The country will be in a very sorry state. We will truly have a 'dumbocracy'(thanks to the above comment), the minority will be ruling the majority. Only in Canada. We could not make this up!

Posted by: Antenor at January 13, 2006 12:18 PM

Liberal leader Paul Martin stops for a photo with a supporter after a campaign rally in Burlington, Ont., Thursday, Jan. 12, 2006.(CP PHOTO/Ryan Remiorz) > via cnews


Martin "with a supporter"? Singular, one supporter? Is the name of the one supporter Mrs. Martin? Mole? Buzz? Jack?

Posted by: maz2 at January 13, 2006 12:18 PM

The Liberals look like the Bourbons of Old France; they have learned nothing and forgotten nothing.

In the face of a shattering Gomery Commission report; the Liberal candidate in a "Bible Belt" riding no less, resort to an NDP bribe to take a fall. I wonder how much was in the brown envelope? In a riding that went Reform, Allinance, Conservative for how many elections?

Completely and utterly out of control. Talk about "bunker mentality". Only incoming katusha rockets would seem to change these peoples minds about reforming their ways.

These people are truly incorrigible. I wonder what the new recidivist rates will show when the Liberal criminals are hauled before the magistrates.

Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at January 13, 2006 12:27 PM

Wishful thinking Ron? If Layton's that stupid him and the NDP will get what they deserve. If he's got any brains he would realize that the Dipper's have a shot at being the official opposition, if they aim their guns at the Liberals for the remainder of the campaign.

Posted by: Bruce Randall at January 13, 2006 12:28 PM

"If the NDP entertain this it shows that they have absolutely no principles about them save one: a rabid, seething hatred and intolerance of conservative people everywhere."

I can't see the NDP doing this. They have more to gain by not doing it. But why would the Liberals want to? Hmm. I don't think it's because of the threat of a CPC win. Could it be because they're beginning to think that the Bloc could form the official opposition?

The Bloc is already at 56 seats according to the UBC Election Stock Market Poll this morning.
http://esm.ubc.ca/CA06/index.php

Liberals 88
CPC 136
NDP 27
Bloc 56

If the Liberals lose 6 more seats to the Bloc in Quebec and a few more to the NDP or CPC in Ontario this might happen. I'm not projecting it but I'm not ruling it out either.

I can see some Liberals jumping ship to go to both the CPC and the NDP if the Liberal meltdown continues.

I wonder if any Liberals will jump ship before election day? Probably not. BTW, how is Martin doing in his riding? Anyone know?

I wonder also if any of the old guard Liberals are beginning to think of a new name for their new party? The Progressive Conservatives had to didn't they?

I wonder also if any prominent Liberals are making plans to move to China?

Maybe I'm wondering too much.

Posted by: John Crittenden at January 13, 2006 12:32 PM

I'll be back on Monday. Is that a collective groan/sigh I hear?

Posted by: Ron at January 13, 2006 12:41 PM

Libsranos and Nudies in a formal coalition? Why don't they just unite into one along with the Communist Party of Canada, the Marijuana Party, the Marxist-Leninist Party and the Sex Party? Hell, throw in some ex-Taliban and some former Saddamite Baathists while they're at it! Why limit themselves to just two or three bizarre moonbat components?

If true, this news would be proof positive that the Liberals are communists who will do virtually anything to hold onto power.

However, I don't think Canadians would be pleased with such a move in the middle of an election, if it were to take the form of one candidate or another dropping out of specific ridings' races to try and bring together the far-left vote and continue their dangerous ultra-extreme left-wing agenda which we're now onto.

Let 'em try... to their own undoing!

Canadians will never tolerate a communist regime.

CHOOSE YOUR CANADA.

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at January 13, 2006 12:47 PM

I think they sewed a mole into Jack Layton at that evil private clinic.
Quick Jack!Get thee to a free clinic and abort that little bugger.

Posted by: Doug at January 13, 2006 12:55 PM

Wow, I just read the affidavit..incredible that the Liberals would even think of doing this when their record of accountability and ethics is sketchy at best. This only fortifies my resolve to vote CPC on January 23rd.

Posted by: ET at January 13, 2006 12:57 PM

Too bad he didn't have a tape recorder. I wonder if this accusation will stick. After all, look what happened with the Grewall tapes.

BTW what's the deal with the Dipper employing the 15 year old? Child labour, no? Oh right, he's a volunteer!

Perhaps that was the Liberal's escape route: should a formal relationship sour with the Dippers, they could cite "child labour" and bolt.

Posted by: Eskimo at January 13, 2006 1:04 PM

As I was reading Hansen's letter, the words of Paul Martin from the Conservative ad kept running through my head: "The Liberal party is not corrupt...the Liberal party is not corrupt..."

It just shows once again that one should never, ever meet with a Liberal without a tape recorder running. My only question about Hansen's version of events is that according to his timeline, the meeting lasted about an hour and fifteen minutes. That's a pretty long time to be meeting when he realized what the agenda was right away.

ET, why wait until Jan. 23 to vote? Advance polls are open today.

Posted by: TimR at January 13, 2006 1:13 PM

Rumours about coalition NDP/Liberal government don't make sense. First of all, barring some as yet unforseen change in voter intentions, the combined seat total of NDP/Lib seats will be nowhere near the 155 seats required to hold power. A rough estimate, based on polling and seat movements might look something like this (optimistic NDP numbers):

Conservative - 125
Liberal - 100
Bloc - 60
NDP - 23

If this what transpires, there is no chance of Lib/NDP coalition, or minority, having confidence of House. Nowhere near enough seats. Martin would still need the support of the Bloc, which won't happen.

Also, as others have stated, some Liberals, maybe 10 (30 would give give Conservative control of House) Liberals would defect (sit as Independent, supporting Conservatives and running for them in byelection). Maybe even some NDP would leave too.

That is why I believe this story is bogus. Unless the Libs and Conservatives are very close in seats (yes incumbent has first shot at power), Martin will have no choice but to tell GG he can't govern.

In a way I hope they try it.

Posted by: Phil at January 13, 2006 1:18 PM

Why am I not hearing from celebrities who will (gasp!) leave Canada if Harper is voted in? I am eternally grateful to chanteuse Celine Dion for getting the heck out long time ago, but where are the rest of them?

First on my list is Sonia Smits. I saw her the other day with Colin Mochrie demanding more funding for the arts from the feds. Sorry sweets, ain’t gonna happen, especially when you’re the paragon of artiste-dom here in Canada.

I always say to my wife that I can tell right away if a show is going to suck – all I do is look to see if Sonia is in the cast, and if she’s in there, I flip to the next station.

How about all those unfunny comedians we have in this country? Rick Mercer, Mary Walsh, the Air Farce gang … is there anyone I missed? How is it that a country that produced SCTV and Kids In The Hall is now saddled with this dreck?

I want to hear from these people how they’re moving out of the country if the CPC gets in. I don’t care where they’re going, I just want them out.

And I’m willing to drive them to the airport.

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at January 13, 2006 1:23 PM

By the way - someone else used the ET initials above; not me - though I agree with voting CPC.

As for the prospect of a coalition of the Liberals and NDP if the CPC win - I don't think that will happen. The GG, as 'Martin's Gal' is inexperienced enough to be irrelevant to the conclusion. The Coalition Guys might try to persuade her - but, I don't think that the electorate would sit back and allow such an event to take place.

I think you'd see our very own Ukraine style Orange Rebellion. Canadians may be passive but they wouldn't accept such a take-over and denial of their vote.

Effectively - such a tactic rejects the electorate. It says - You, the people, may have voted one way, but, We Who Like Power, can merge your votes in ways that you did not intend (a coalition)..so that we can retain power.

Posted by: ET at January 13, 2006 1:25 PM

Folks:

"Bright hope for tomorrow..."

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canadavotes2006/national/2006/01/13/elxn-harper-platform.html

Posted by: SwQ at January 13, 2006 1:29 PM

Brison heard that there was a gerbil within the LPC and got excited. With the potential for a LPC/NDP coalition he and Svend can gerbil together.

Posted by: Bob at January 13, 2006 1:35 PM

[In my best Austin Powers voice]

Oh behave, Bob!

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at January 13, 2006 1:53 PM

There is little difference between the parties today. The left has sprinted so far right and the right so far left, that there is little wriggle room remaing for the Liberals to play in. So at the end of the day they can belly up to the Conservativers or the NDP and pretent to get along quite well.

Posted by: Richard_Cranium at January 13, 2006 1:59 PM

Damn it! When are the Liberals going to take bribery to the grassroots level and start directly buying our votes? Let's hear some concrete offers! My family has 4 eligible voters. In our riding, last election the Conservative candidate won by about six thousand votes, and we all voted Conservative. Any Liberal should be able to do the math. A combination of Paul Martins' good governance, and my familys' 4 votes equal Liberal victory! Let's open those bids at ....oh say... a Dodge diesel four by four. Don't call me a whore, call me a Neo- Lib.

Posted by: dmorris at January 13, 2006 2:02 PM

Richard, I think you mean left, lefter and leftist. There are no major parties representing the right in Canada.

Posted by: Kate at January 13, 2006 2:03 PM

Can this blog do anything original?

First its the O'Reilly "kool-aid" quip - and now the Drudge siren.. Geesh.

Talk about sheep..

Posted by: Karl at January 13, 2006 2:08 PM

First of all, let me get this straight:

There is something called the Marijuana Party Candidate?

Posted by: Ruy Diaz at January 13, 2006 2:15 PM

Svend and Scott will jointly share the duties of Stornoway pool boy. (quite possibly in tandem!)

Posted by: Eskimo at January 13, 2006 2:26 PM

Yes, Karl, tell us about sheep....

How many AC/DC NDP and Liberal sheep have you screwed?

Don't bother to answer, it will certainly not be original. I've already read it at cbc.ca, ndp.ca, liberal.ca, theglobeaandmail.com, on and on...sheep.

Posted by: Doug at January 13, 2006 2:28 PM

Svend and Scott will *share* the Stornoway pool boy.

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at January 13, 2006 2:28 PM

I'm going to start the Hippotamus Party and run every campaign at Christmas.
I will take the $1.75 per vote and promise to spend it on Beer and Popcorn.

At least I can assure people that their $1.75 will not be used for; attack ads, lawn signs, or paying the salaries of pond scum like John Duffy.

Posted by: VandenBrink at January 13, 2006 2:38 PM

If I was Layton, as the Liberals continue to tank and risk becoming the third party in Parliament, I would fire my registered handguns at Martin. Tell Canadians that with a Tory government and a Bloc opposition, you need a credible federalist alternative. Give me more New Democrats. 40 to 60 of them. Make the Liberals the 4th party. Reverse the drain from NDP to Liberal to make it Liberal to NDP for a change.

That would be the tactic I take if I was Layton.

The NDP agreeing to a deal with the Liberals would tell Canadians that they rather have a corrupt, bribe-taking, criminal-linked government than a Conservative government.

I don't like Stephen Harper, but I would not say he is a criminal. Nor would I choose Paul Martin over him.

The NDP would go down the toilet with the Liberals if he joins forces.

Posted by: Craig Cantin at January 13, 2006 2:47 PM

Just goes to show you that the liberals know they are dead in the water and will try and say ANYTHING to get elected but I think Canadians are far too smart for that and sick and tired of the corruption, lies and a seemingly negative view on everything!

As long as the Tories dont fall at the last minute I think Canadians will willingly elect a Tory majority to ensure something actually gets accomplished in Ottawa.

As for the topic at hand - it is scandalous!

Posted by: Paul at January 13, 2006 2:47 PM

Help Wanted: Send Cv & brown envelope (nudge) to :

Librano$ c/o Mama's ristrant, Otawwa. Att; gag.>>

PTBC visitor reports being surveyed on Liberal replacements

A commenter posted this interesting comment just moments ago in this blog entry. The blog entry was about the Globe and Mail revealing that some Liberals have given up, and that there are already plans underway within the Liberal Party to dump their leader Paul Martin, and replace him with a new leader.

We received a call last night asking for my wife who was an ex-card carrying member of the Liberal Party. (I take some credit for the conversion). They were doing a political survey on which party she supported. Her response was Conservative giving a brief reason why. The caller then asked (this is important) if her vote would change if Bob Rae, John Manley, Frank MacKenna and a French name she didn’t recognize, were the leader of the Liberal Party. The call ended after a few questions on health care and social services.

I don’t know what’s going on but you would think even Liberals would have the decency to wait for the body to die before they bury it. I am not kidding and I am definitely making this up.


Posted by Joel Johannesen on 01/13/06 at 11:02 AM PST >>
http://www.proudtobecanadian.ca/blog/

Posted by: maz2 at January 13, 2006 2:53 PM

I seem to remember posing just such a question a little while ago... is it any surprise that the Libs and NDP would do this. Usurping the democratic process to save their ass'... no suprise to me.

Posted by: William Macdonell at January 13, 2006 3:00 PM

According to maz2 it sounds like Martin is about to have a Kruchev pulled on him.....

Only question remains.....who will be the new Breznev?

Posted by: Eskimo at January 13, 2006 3:01 PM

From the affadavit:

"They also discussed that I would be a 'hero', that the option to join the Liberal party would always be there and that they would be prepared to bill this political move as being my own to net me even more respect from within the Liberal ranks"

The language is all too familiar, given what we know of the Grewal and Mark instances. Also, the term "hero" is remarkably ironic, considering this:

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=3f2d9409-5408-4d00-9d3e-26fb81cb7a62&k=18612

Is this what Paul Martin means by "hero"?

Posted by: A. Cooper at January 13, 2006 3:01 PM

Maybe the mole leaked the story about Jack! and public/private hernias. Maybe put him in a vulnerable position. Maybe now he needs to cooperate... I'm not allowed to make this up.

Posted by: Maggie at January 13, 2006 3:01 PM

I hope this NDP/Liberal coalition is a farce.
Jack Layton would have zero credibility if he were to once again climb into bed with Martin.
Absolute downright hypocrite..is a hard label to live down...not to mention "sellout"

Posted by: Rottigirl at January 13, 2006 3:05 PM

Given the Liberal election battleship is now heading for the briny deep; I would agree that Jack Layton's best bet is to become the Official federalist Opposition. There is no sense to strategically try to block the conservatives; rather the disaffected may well move in Jacks direction.

If Layton launches a "Get Back To Jack" blitz in the dying days of the campaign he could well find some traction among the left leaning Liberals who are disgusted with their own parties performance and tactics. Picking up the Left Lifeboats and deliciously for him even Buzz Hargrove!! Isn't irony sweet. Buzz muttering under his breath all the way; as his lifeboat oarstrokes bring him back to the NDP fold.

Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at January 13, 2006 3:09 PM

Thanks to Eskimo and M.Matt I have this rather unsavory mental picture in my head of Svend and Scott and the pool boy in speedos. UGGGHHHH
Back on topic, however, let the NDP and LPC unite -- from everything that I have seen they deserve each other.

Posted by: morison at January 13, 2006 3:19 PM

What's really scary is the Bloc becomes the official opposition! yike's, It is possible right?.
Iam not making this up
It could be fact or fiction
In Canada
Jan.23/06

Posted by: bryan at January 13, 2006 3:24 PM

Only more seats for the CPC should the Dippers choose to spread their collective thighs for the Libranos yet again. It also turns things into a two-way (Bloc vs CPC) race in Quebec now.

Posted by: Eskimo at January 13, 2006 3:24 PM

Oh yeah, I forgot to add to my above post, a word of comfort to the die hard old school NDP-ers vis a vis their upcomming rendezvous in the kings size Liberal four poster.....just lay back and think of Tommy Douglas.

Posted by: Eskimo at January 13, 2006 3:27 PM

The fog was gone the sev-enth day an' they saw the mornin' sun
Ten hours a-way from home-land the Dithers made it's run
The Ad-miral of the Harper fleet said turn those bows a-round
We found that Librano Bat-tle-ship and we gon-na cut 'er down.

The non-registered guns were aimed and the shells were com-in' fast
The first shell hit the Dithers they knew she could-n't last
That might-y Librano bat-tle-ship is just a mem-o-ry
Sink the Dithers was the bat-tle cry that shook the sev-en seas.

We found that Librano bat-tle-ship for mak'in' such a fuss
We had to sink the Dithers 'cause Canada de-pends on us
We hit the deck a-run-nin' and we spun those guns a-round
Yea! we found that might-y Dithers and we had to cut 'er down

Posted by: Colin at January 13, 2006 3:30 PM

So what would one call this new entity?

The New Demerols
The Liebromats?
How about the The Liberated New Partybrats

Posted by: Bullwinkle at January 13, 2006 3:36 PM

Morison,

After they're done with the pool boy, they'll cool down by practicing their syncronized swimming.

Don't know if you ever saw Martin Short doing it on Saturday Night Live, but it'll be something like that.

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at January 13, 2006 3:38 PM

Did you hear Ralph Goodale's 1994 dig on Jason Kenney at the end of his impartial analysis of the CPC platform? The same Jason Kenney who was at one time his executive assistant?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Goodale

I guess they're still buds. The snarky delivery really raises the level of the debate.

Posted by: Maggie at January 13, 2006 3:44 PM

I remember that SNL clip! Hi-frickin-larious! How about the character in the role of the fruitcake choreographer? That was a scream! (Perhaps this part could be filled by Bill Graham)

Posted by: Eskimo at January 13, 2006 3:44 PM

Here's a Satirical Headline:

Belinda Stronach asks the Liberal Mole whether he thinks the Conservatives would consider giving her a cabinet position.

Posted by: Angela at January 13, 2006 3:48 PM

Liberals pull support for Abbotsford canidate.
PM Paulie said they are cutting all ties with this canidate (Oliver, I believe is his name)
Paulie doing the right think, he needed Mr. Harper to set an example of how things are done!

Posted by: MaryM at January 13, 2006 4:09 PM

Thing! not think! sorry....

Posted by: MaryM at January 13, 2006 4:11 PM

It proves that the Lieberals are still CORRUPTS! End of discussion!

Posted by: Deaf_Tory at January 13, 2006 4:12 PM

"There are no major parties representing the right in Canada."

That's certainly true. Over my lifetime I've watched the political landscape gradually slide leftward. Sort of like the, so-called, "living constitution". It's slid so far that I find I barely speak the same language anymore, even with those supposedly on the right.

I guess I'm just not "progressive".

Posted by: ol hoss at January 13, 2006 4:13 PM

I don't believe the bribe story. It is like someone suggesting that in Monte Solberg's riding that the Liberals are neck and neck with the Conservatives so the Liberals are talking with the NDP to drop out.

Its BS. I just don't get it. Tories dominate that riding.

Posted by: Mole at January 13, 2006 4:14 PM

I happen to like the Drudge siren. It adds a nice alarmist touch, don't you think?



Posted by: Kate at January 13, 2006 4:14 PM

Think you missed it Angela.Belinda is the mole.
PM Jr.is a sucker for a pretty face.Just approach him and he hands out cabinet posts, Gov.General posts,like candy.
Must be because the rest of them are,well quite frankly unattractive.

Posted by: Doug at January 13, 2006 4:15 PM

CTV Newsnet is reporting that the Liberals have dumped David Oliver in Abbotsford. So that was quick and not like the Liberals at all. Where are the denials, the statements that these are only allegations and not proven, the accusations of drive-by smears, the proclamations that David Oliver is one of the most honest men that Paul Martin knows?

Meanwhile Newsnet is also running a clip of Maude Barlow calling Harper "the George Bush of the North." The fearmongering by our bought and paid for "elite" has begun.

Posted by: TimR at January 13, 2006 4:18 PM

Colin: For your new sea shanty; a double portion of Carribean rum; poured by Governor General Michaelle Jean!!!

High seas raider, to the briny deep.

The Jolly Roger is no more, finally put to sleep.

In your seas

By the Navy

In Canada

Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at January 13, 2006 4:23 PM

This is way to much like a set up. The liberanos were already in a losing position in that riding.
So the offer of this sacrificial lamb has no relevance. It is just another smoke and mirror ploy to make them look like they have an aura of ethics. They forgot that we are now on to them and truth will prevail.

I though the NDP learned when they got it in the rear with that budget fiasco. Hey Jack, fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me. Do you feel like a fool?

I look forward to having paulie behind bars where he belongs.

Posted by: FREE at January 13, 2006 4:42 PM

ol hoss: You're showing your age too.

it's "progressyve" as in womyn and lyberal

Posted by: Doug at January 13, 2006 4:46 PM

Well, my 'money' has been cast where my mouth is.. my wife and I have cast our votes .. official registered Tory votes.. let the wave continue.. if our early voting station is any indication, there should be a good turnout this year.. we gladly waited in line for 20 minutes for the privalege of casting a vote that WILL make a difference and help in restoring Canada to Canadians..

Posted by: Cbear at January 13, 2006 4:53 PM

I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this or not but, if you assume the story is true, there is something far more disturbing than simply the fact that a candidate was bribed. If a person was bribed with $5,000 or $10,000 (or something) you could believe that it was just an individual who was working on their own; someone who offers a position in government assumes that they have the necessary power to give the bribed person the job.

Now consider this, what type of authority does a rookie MP really have? Even if they're part of the governing party they are not going to be a member of the cabinet thus they really don't have any jobs to offer. Now this means that either the bribe was comming from higher up or (I would assume a more likely scenerio) the bribe's payout could never happen.

Posted by: NoOne at January 13, 2006 4:59 PM

Pravda is reporting on how Paul Martin heroically axed his candidate, David Oliver, after he offered his (NDP) friend a job.

http://www.cbc.ca/story/c ...

I'm not making this up: Offered him a job.

Doesn't that sound all warm and cuddly, so much nicer than offered him a bribe?

Posted by: Chris from Victoria, BC at January 13, 2006 5:10 PM

I also cast my vote at the advance poll this am. Balmy, warm day here on the east coast. Huge voter turnout, I waited 15 minutes to register. I voted CPC, John Wallace, Saint John. He is an excellent representative for the Conservative Party of Canada. He is presently councel in a Saint John law firm, having degrees in law and business. He has been a councel and business manager for Irving Oil in the past. He is heavily involved in community activities, and intends to take action on the high level of poverty in our area, an area, by the way, that has the highest median wages in the province.

Posted by: Mark at January 13, 2006 5:12 PM

Paul is such a hero. The liberals have no chance in Abbotsford anyhow, it is a strong Tory riding. Harpers firing of his own candidate in a strong Tory riding that is that a sign of a coward?

Posted by: alan at January 13, 2006 5:17 PM

The Liberals cant win can they? STOP THE MADNESS!

Posted by: Sherwood Baker at January 13, 2006 5:18 PM

Who wants to place a wager that David Oliver will reappear somewhere, sometime, in the future -- possibly being paid $150,000 to produce a report on something or other that really does not mean anything to anyone, and may or may not reach the public eye. Don't forget that there are a lot of public servant crooks on the payroll, entitling themselves to their entitlements. It might take decades before we find out about all of them.

Posted by: morison at January 13, 2006 5:25 PM

Given yesterday's CPC turfing of Derek Zeisman, the LPC decision today to drop David Oliver was literally a no-brainer.

I suspect that is why they did it, even the LPC war room could see their way on this one.

As with the resst of this election the LPC is playing follow the leader.

Lost in the ethical wilderness. Sad, fundamentally very very very sad.

Syncro

Posted by: Syncrodox at January 13, 2006 5:25 PM

If anyone is still following this thread they MUST pop over to Proud to Be a Canadian

Just posted this absolutely brilliant video.

Warning: Put down your drinks before watching

http://www.proudtobecanadian.ca/blog/index/weblog/comments/self_satisfaction/

Posted by: Artemis at January 13, 2006 5:39 PM

Amazing, a Liberal candidate is able to promise a job in Ottawa, and future election success to his opponent. How could he have been acting alone? Is the Liberal candidate a powerful Liberal insider or is he just knowledgeable of how the corrupt Liberals reward treacherous snakes?

Posted by: Robert Mein at January 13, 2006 5:43 PM

But Belinda and Grewel weren't offered brides --Rolling Eyes--

Bribery is the drug of choice for Liberal corruption addicts.

BTW: If the Liberals were competitive in this riding they would have stood by their candidate. They only let him go because the riding was a writeoff. That is the difference between the Liberals and the Conservatives. Liberals only act when it is painless to do so. The Conservative that was tossed out would have easily won his riding.

Posted by: ferrethouse at January 13, 2006 5:43 PM

Get out and vote.
A high turnout at advance polls would indicate a desire for change.

Do your part to drive Dithers to greater feats of desperation!

Besides advance polls usually have shorter lines.

(Not today though. 15 minute wait.)

Dr. Hot Cross couldn't even manage to have a Librano scrutineer at the polling station. Poor lass :-(

Posted by: Cal at January 13, 2006 5:45 PM

Strange how the Conservative have been one or two steps ahead of the Liberals through this entire election campaign. Hell they even dumped their black sheep candidate first. The libs are just following the leader.

Masterful job by Harper and the entire TEAM this time around. We need to remember that the 2004 election was fought before the CPC had even had their first convention and Harper had been leader for only a matter of weeks. The liberals tried to catch Harper before he got organized and almost blew it. This time around Martin is done. He will go down in history with Joe Clark and Kim Campbell.

Some legacy.

Posted by: Servant at January 13, 2006 5:46 PM

Skip to "comments" here, go to "last reply," and work backwards for the latest I have on your election currently, and the earlier scandals:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1380050/posts

Posted by: backhoe at January 13, 2006 6:10 PM

Martin on CPAC, mouth disconnected from brain, looking as if he's in the middle of an after-death experience and not enjoying the view too much. Is it me, or has anybody else noticed that almost to a man/woman, journalists are looking as shell-shocked? Gidget Taber still holds out hope that those ads will work in Quebec, though, and that people will see the error of their ways.

Posted by: Iron Lady at January 13, 2006 6:13 PM

Is this Liberal candidate NDP bribe story a very, very elaborate Liberal plant?

Pay off a young candidate who could use a lot of money (Paul Martin has a quarter of a Billion dollars), accuse the Liberal candidate of bribery in a riding where it makes no sense, have the Prime Minister uncharacteristically make a decisive statement and take quick action (decisive action copied from Stephen Harper, of course), then a couple to a few days later, have it all fall apart or the NDP candidate retract and, therefore, try to discredit the original Judy Wasylycia-Leis complaint, RCMP investigation, and OSC investigation?

No way. That is all pure bull shit. It could not happen that way.

But with Ominous martial music, quotes taken out of context or, better yet vis-a-vis the Liberal attack ads, made up quotes (or still better yet, a quote that someone else said, but you use that quote to attack the person who you're attacking who actually wrote the person who said the quote to disagree with the quote, if you can believe it, and if you can follow it), it would make a good ad, eh?

Or maybe George Bush planted a brain control device in Paul Martin so that he would turn into a babbling idiot at press conferences? That's my theory.

Posted by: Chris from Victoria, BC at January 13, 2006 6:13 PM

Delta, BC. I voted this afternoon. We had to wait in line outside the church where the poll was located. It was a zoo!!! I hope that's a good sign.

Posted by: Shirley at January 13, 2006 6:17 PM

The Liberal campaign is going so badly it's just a matter of time before someone blames the evil genius Karl Rove. Maybe he planted "the mole." Anyone checked rabble.ca lately to see if his name has come up?

Posted by: TimR at January 13, 2006 6:30 PM

I truly hope that the Socialists and the Liberals do merge. The merger will send millions of rational thinking Liberals to the Conservative party and only the nut jobs will remain. How can I support this? Where do I make a donation?

Posted by: Trent at January 13, 2006 6:33 PM

Conservative MP calls for repeal of hate law
Cheryl Gallant said she opposed the new law that was recently amended to include sexual orientation as one of the protected groups. She compares abortion to Iraq beheadings.
Privacy agency wants answers
Canada's privacy watchdog is asking a Conservative MP to conduct an internal probe into a complaint that the personal information of constituents may have been inappropriately stored and used/sold.

Who does Harper fire? The lying smuggler, or the ever evasive freedom hating, racist, war monger?

Even here the very name of Cheryl Gallant makes posters minds go blank with fear.


Posted by: sam at January 13, 2006 6:37 PM

Two words: Andrew Telegdi.

Posted by: Chris from Victoria, BC at January 13, 2006 6:41 PM

I'm thinking the mole is probably Belinda Stronach, I read that guess at another blog, or maybe here on this site, in an odd way it makes sense.

On another theme, I don't think that there will be a Liberal rebound this time in the last weeks, as ALL of Canada has become familiarized with the CPC, and we are liking what we see and hear. Integrity, accountability, trust, and honesty. Whats not to like about that?

Posted by: Mark at January 13, 2006 6:45 PM

Aye Aye Captain Rupprecht

Avast ye bloggers
Man the eight pounders'

Ye Hornswagglin' Libranos
Be in Davy's grip

Posted by: Colin at January 13, 2006 6:46 PM

A coalition? Somebody put Jack Laydown back in his box!

Posted by: Shaken at January 13, 2006 7:08 PM

Colin: Small matter of military protocol; if you have sunk the mighty Liberal election battleship "Dithers" the title for you would be

"Captain Colin"

Seeing as I am stationed on Hans Island with the artic wolves and artic foxes my title is as follows:

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht BGS, PDP, CFP

Commander in Chief

Frankenstein Battalion

Knecht Rupprecht Division

Hans Corps

1st Saint Nicolaas Army

Army Group “True North”

Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at January 13, 2006 7:35 PM

Re: Affidavit by Jeffery Hansen-Carlson NDP canidate Abbotsford BC.

His last response was beautiful! It reminds me of a couple of lines in a MeatLoaf song:
"Let me sleep on it baby, baby Let me sleep on it! Oh.. let me sleep on it, I'll give you the answer in morning!"

(I've got to know right now!)

Further on in the song to the Liebreals: So now I'm praying for the end of time so I can end my time with YOU!

I just couldn"t resist!!!!

Posted by: MaryM at January 13, 2006 7:56 PM

CPAC-SES: CP 40% LIB 31%
"I think the Net has changed politics forever. No news organization, no politician, and no party can ignore it. It has accelerated the pace of news. It is the most exciting time to be a political journalist." The G&M's Jeff Sallot ... "Bourque is Canada's top !" - The infoZone ... "Bourque is Top News Aggregator !" - The Globe & Mail ...
via ?????????

Posted by: maz2 at January 13, 2006 8:09 PM

"Can hardly wait for the Brison vs Robinson hissy fits overt who gets to decorate Stornaway"

Well, since under a Liberal/NDP coalition, neither of these luminaries for the loony left would be elected, you don't need to worry about it.

Think about it. Between 70 and 75% of people DON'T want the Liberals to be in power.

Any coalition would have to be based on an informal arrangement, whereby they agree one person will ask his/her supporters to vote for the other guy. Advice the voter is free to ignore, since both names are on the ballot.

A coalition would give them no seats in Quebec that the Liberals would not have had anyway.

Nor would it add a single seat in Manitoba, Saskatchewan, or Alberta.

It might add some in the Maritimes.

It might add two or three in the GTA, but it would cost them seats outside the GTA. Probably a wash.

And in B.C., those seats the NDP and Liberals would have won would be toast. You could expect Saskatchewan, Alberta, and B.C. to be Tory blue exclusively.

So what would it accomplish? A strong Conservative minority would be replaced by a slightly smaller Conservative minority. And, without a viable party for balance of power, we're back again in months. After the Conservatives order the RCMP to submit a written report on their progress on the 30 some odd criminal investigations now underway into the corrupt Liberal government. After which, Brian Mulroney's record for a majority win is easily smashed.

Jack's been poor at reinforcing the NDP brand, but even he's not stupid enough to destroy it altogether.

At the risk of channelling Kimmie, "The last 9 days of an election is no time to be considering desperate coalition moves".

Posted by: Patrick at January 13, 2006 8:22 PM

Carlson said "I can't wait for the "Hanson-Carlson Tapes""

The irony is that Grewal was excorciated because he took a tape recorder into his conversations where he was trying to gather evidence against the Liberal bribers. And this NDP candidate learned from that that it's better to sign an affidavit, staking his reputation on his story. Giving people the opportunity to question the veracity of his claim.

This is the state of our country's relationship with its governing party. And why they have to go.

Posted by: Patrick at January 13, 2006 8:25 PM

At last... Martin's agende-de secrete: A coup d'etat masterminded by >>>> Buzzzzzz:

Author: "Question"


"Will Buzz unionize the Liberal Party? Then he could be president for life."

http://www.voy.com/178771/119314.html

Posted by: maz2 at January 13, 2006 9:24 PM

Me Too! Me Too!….I have Ethics Too!

Martin dumps Liberal candidate in B.C. riding after accusation of bribery

See my post at OMMAG One More Middle Aged Guy

LOL I am Luvin this!!!!

Posted by: PGP at January 13, 2006 9:48 PM

Someone here mentioned Martin's Dead Heroes pledge. As I mention over at my blog, wouldn't it be better to spend $25 million/year on equipment and training to keep them alive?

My brother is a firefighter and I'd rather see him alive then my sister-in-law getting $250,000 because he is dead.

And here's a thought --- THEY HAVE LIFE INSURANCE!

Posted by: CanadianTrust at January 13, 2006 10:11 PM

Kate:

Musing tip by reader.

Doesn't this outing of a liberal bribing the NDP candidate seem a bit too easy?

Its like it was done to make the NDP candidate look that much more appealing to the voters in that riding.
i.e.: "Gosh did you see that NDP guy! He sure stood up to that liberal when they tried to bribe him."

It doesn't fit Bucky's usual modus operandi. Normally it goes like this:
-1- Rumour floats that something untoward is going on with the liberal candidate.
-2- Victim of liberal dirty trick, claims foul.
-3- Liberal denials
-4- After about three or four days its obvious the authourities have begun snooping around after the victim goes public with the details.
-5- Finally liberals act to do something.

This usually takes weeks, but with the election less than 10 days away, I would have expected Team Dither's to put up a vigourous defence, and they didn't.
Its not like them, its almost like Oliver was a sacrifice to redirect attention away from something else, or the act was done to give the NDP candidate a better chance at winning the riding.

Or maybe I've got the tinfoil hat on too tight?

Just the same it doesn't feel right.

Posted by: gimbol at January 13, 2006 10:18 PM

gimbol, could this have been a desperate Liberal strategy that backfired? Think of the headlines: "Freightened NDP candidate defects to Libs to stop Tories! etc..." If so, the overture was made by litle guys, PMPM's people, but expendable types: there was no wire, but they misjudged the young dipper, they thought he was flippable for some "cumfy fur". It blew up, they took one for the team to bury it quick...

Posted by: bushman at January 13, 2006 10:27 PM

This REALLY smells like a set-up. Just one day after Harper gets praise for dumping a candidate who is under investigation for customs violations, Martin sacks a candidate that bribes an NDP candidate in a throw-away seat for the Lieberals. Abbotsford would go Conservative even with the Lieberal and NDP votes .

Posted by: Mallard at January 13, 2006 11:18 PM

Poor martin, even when he tries to do good, he screws up. Harper acted quickly, got lots of good press re integrity, ect. Took the wind out of martins big announcement. Must have been the beer & popcorn guy, or Duffy that said, hey we can do that to. Very suspicious, martin and liberals don't act that fast. Set up by the war room for sure. Wonder where the lib will end up. Nice touch, his girlfriend crying, aka Mrs Alito. Greatnews, landslide annie is behind her rival by 10%. How is belinda doing, did anyone keep her seat warm. How many cabinet ministers are going down, and how many, if elected, will stay to serve on the opposite side of the house. I predict, if BS, Bisson and others get elected, and have no say, they will join the green party to give them seats in the house. A question, on Your Turn was How do you think the liberal campaign is going. I think it is going great, for the Conservatives.

Posted by: mary at January 14, 2006 2:35 AM

As someone said on Andrew Coyne's site; you could run a penguin in Abbotsford and they would still vote Conservative.

Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at January 14, 2006 2:36 AM

It shoudl not be lost to any of us here that this in no small way vindicates Gurmant Grewal as well as Inky Marks, these names should come up in the CPC was room as part of a reply ad stating that the liberals have so little regard for the whole political process that they feel Bribery is simply another option to be used when Green room intimidation of the media does not work.

Just some thoughts

Daryl

Posted by: Daryl Haaland at January 14, 2006 3:04 AM

Anyone remember the bolshiveks ? Minority support yet through machinations gained power. If this coalition rumour is true we may be seeing the formation of a neo-bolshevik party. If there is any common sense left amongst the Liberal-NDP supporters I suspect they'll bolt to other parties rather than be associated with such blatant antidemocratic machinations.

Posted by: potato at January 14, 2006 4:33 AM

A new day a new bed to get in to. Now Layton is back to being frigid with Paul. According to this Globe & Mail story: NDP preparing for Tory victory http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20060114/ELXNNDP14/National/Idx

They have Layton saying " Paul Martin deserves to be defeated after having bungled the election campaign and his time in office."

Posted by: Cheri at January 14, 2006 1:16 PM

The MSM are treating the Zeisman and Oliver affairs as equivalent "scandals" for the two parties. This ignores that Zeisman's alleged offences were criminal acts for personal gain whereas Oliver's were an effort to corrupt the political process itself. Crimes of completely different types with Oliver's the only ones that threaten our "democracy" (I mean, if Svend can run as a convicted criminal...)--yet the media choose not to point this out.

And, according to Hansen-Carlson (I saw this in a TV interview with him but the print media are not generally reporting it), Hansen-Carlson was told the Liberals could deliver the city election to him through 8,500 Indo-Canadian votes that they controlled.

The Indo-Canadian angle is buried deep in the Globe story, "Liberals drop B.C. candidate over bribery allegations", Jan. 14:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20060114/ELXNBRIBE14/TPNational/TopStories

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'Mr. Hansen-Carlson said he was as shocked as anyone.

"I got red in the face. I was sweating," he said. "[Mr. Oliver and his campaign manager Gordie Kahlon] wanted me to go public, stop campaigning and throw my complete support to Mr. Oliver, out of fears about Mr. Harper."

If he did, they said they would guarantee him a seat on the next Abbotsford council, because Mr. Kahlon claimed he controlled 8,500 Indo-Canadian votes in the community, alleged Mr. Hansen-Carlson, 23.'.. (Sorry, it wasn't Oliver himself that said it.)

And, curiously, the headline for the story (deep indeed at p. A12) in the print edition in Ottawa is:

"Liberals axe B.C. candidate over allegations".

I wonder why the "bribery" descriptor vanished?

This controlled bloc ethnic voting is an increasing threat to our "democracy" but the media again choose to ignore it almost completely. How pathetically pc.

Mark
Ottawa

Posted by: Mark Collins at January 14, 2006 3:31 PM

Whatever the result tomorrow, one can only wonder what it might have been if the media had had the intelligence and principle to publish any of years of press releases analyzing fraud in public spending ($6 billions recoverable, two Courts , two years). All we mathematicians saw was the instant posting of Germain to China and the resignation of Ottawa Police Board Chairman/Councillor. Examples by fax on request

Posted by: Arnold Guetta at January 22, 2006 5:20 PM
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