Is anyone in charge of the Liberal campaign? from Magic Statistics
Prime Minister Paul Martin says he approved the release of the now-infamous anti-Harper attack ad: In an interview Thursday morning on CTV's Canada AM, Martin said he approved every one of the harshly critical ads -- including one that suggested the... [Read More]

Tracked on January 12, 2006 9:39 PM

Bet the Libs now wish THEY'D put out hokey ads like the first set of Tory ads.

haha.. Yeah, those staged interviews with Stephen Harper are lookin' pretty good right now.

hahaha...

Is it just me, or are the communications within the LP in complete disarray?

She's going down boys, the hate ads were the last stab.

Next step -- people jumping ship.

The Liberal Party of Canada- A COMBINATION OF

INCOMPETENCE

AND VICIOUSNESS

IN CANADA

IN OUR CITIES

IN OUR TOWNS

IN OUR VILLAGES

IN CANADA

EVERYWHERE

LIBERAL VALUES

INCOMPETENCE AND VICIOUSNESS

AT THE TOP

IN CANADA

Prediction: before the campaign is over Martin will challenge Harper to acknowledge that 911 was an inside job.

Why is it still running on the french stations in Quebec if it wasn't approved?

Who the heck is running he Lib ship?

Whoever it is better talk to the others to get their stories straight.

mark:

The "ALARM, ALLES RAUS" message went out two days ago.

David Asper (of Asper family fame) has jumped to the lifeboats to be picked up by the Tory flotilla supporting Peter Kent.

Today you are watching the bow sinking and the stern with the Liberal election pennant lifting the screws out of the water. Just a matter of time before she slips ignobly to the briny deep.

I watched Canada AM and PMPM said that the ad never ran. Tsk, tsk, and Beverley didn't call him out on it, like "liar". If they posted the ad on their website what did they think people were going to do, not watch it and then not comment? Then to have our Finance Minister say what is quoted above contrary to public knowledge, then his credibility on "no leaks" in ITSCAM are just as creditable, no? The MSM is too kind to these hacks!

Well, at least these ads are good for something...

There should be a contest for the best parody of the Liberal attack ads...I've seen some pretty good ones out there already, and I am sure there are LOTS more to come.

Now that you mention it, we've all been squealing about the slam so much that we forgot about OPSCAM, ITSCAM, and about 31 or 32 other issues.

Ever heard of the book "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder" by Dr. Michael Savage? The Liberal Party campaign could be a case study on the subject. They've just lost all perspective on common sense.

I've seen parties flounder in elections before, but not due by their own hand at such an irrational state of mind. I can't believe these goofs held power so long. Bubbles from the Trailer Park Boys could run a better campaign.

Unbelievable!! The military ad was not approved (or was it by Martin?) and weren't run, which is proof they didn't really mean it. Reality Check. The military disgrace ad has identical production values to the others, was released to media, and as far as I know IS STILL RUNNING IN QUEBEC. Notwithstanding that Mr Harper has run a disciplined, coherent and exciting campaign, I am amazed at the Liberal gaffes and stupidity. Martin tries to win debate, then makes stupid comment about NWC; Libs run attack ad, story becomes insult to military; Libs attack Tory daycare plan, becomes beer and popcorn scandal. Liberals are stepping on their p*****s on this campaign. WRT Tory alleged smuggler, congrats to Harper. While not convicted of anything, candidate had obligation to disclose anything that could affect his or the party's reputation, so he had to go. If he is exonerated, then, should he win the riding, will be welcome back into fold. Contrast that with Liberal behaviour. Harper sent a solid message on this one - Conservative party will be accountable, period.

Warren Kinsella's prediction that PMPM will state he had nothing to do with the ads is on the verge of coming true if Goodale is already saying it.
The lies they think they are getting away with on this issue are dumbfounding. My 5 yr old is a better liar. At least she stops when she knows she's caught.

Add this to the scathing comments that Howard Burton had for those involved in the morning's Liberal research announcement (see Paul Wells Blog at macleans) and I think the Liberals are going to have another lousy day.

They should have had me running the campaign. I would of told them to all go home and don't say a word. No comment is better than a thousand stupid ones. Nobody is running their campaign and that is obvious. The smart ones jumped off the ship like rats when the writing was on the wall in December.

Up with Liberalism, down with Liebrano$

This is like watching a bad play, none of the actors in 'team martin' are apparently talking with each other.

Did the Liberal's forget to pay for their warroom's blackberry accounts?

The confusion and failures of the Liberal war room are incredible.

theinfozone.net
has more details on some of the crash and burns.

Tired.

Once again, you have a Liberal on damage control saying one thing (Ralph: it wasn't approved) and another Liberal saying the opposite (Paul Martin: I approved it).

How can anybody take these idiots seriously?

It is quite obvious the ad was approved. If it is still running in Quebec, it means they are paying for it. If they are paying for it and they intended to yank it, it would not be on TV. It is.

They are lying. Why doesn't anybody in the media just simply point that out?

I gotta take a shot at this:

Stephen Harper eats Bunnies for Breakfast

Fluffy white Bunnies

In his kitchen

In Calgary

In Alberta

Is this the kind of Canada you want?

Syncro

Paul Martin on a question and answer session this morning unequivocally stated "I approved all of the ads"

LIBERAL:

L-Lies
I-Incompetence
B-Bovine Excrement
E-Entitlements
R-Racketeers
A-Adscam
L-Liars

These adds are such an insult to Canadians.
Makes me mad.
Really motivates me to get my misguided socialist siblings to promise me they wont vote Lib this time. They're in downtown Toronto (Trinity/Spadina)

NDP if you must but the Libs you just can't trust.

You people never change, do you?

Misdirect, misdirect, misdirect. (Do you think we're not actually paying attention?)

The fact is, Harper is being QUOTED in the Liberal Ads. They are his words. Nobody made this shit up but HIM. Now are any of you prepared to ask the REAL questions that need to be asked about this series of ads?

like:

Who's planning on asking Mr. Harper to explain his "conversion on the road to Damascus"? Because I'd sure like to know how he got from "pro Iraq invasion" to "no troops from Canada", among the many other conflicting statements we've been subjected to by Harper during this surreal election.

These ads focusing on Harper's record aren't "attack" ads. To claim such a thing is absurd. Running a picture of Chretien's facial deformity in a mocking ad, on the other hand, IS an "attack" ad. Pointing out the actual words uttered by a candidate for Prime Minister of Canada in a series of ads during an election campaign can in no way be construed as "attack" ads by anyone other than a dyed-in-the-wool partisian hack.

I have no love for the Liberal Party, but I have even less for a party supported by the countless hypocritical dimwits like those of you I see posting here in defense of the indefensible.

Harper owes us an explanation regarding the glaring inconsistencies in his public statements. Anything less would be an insult to all of us - even you, if you had the good sense to realize it.

Don't you see what's happening. All that Adscam money is coming full circle, home to roost.

All those high profile Ad companies in Quebec are showing their attention to detail and justifying their stratospheric charge out rates.

Talk about bang for the buck.

Up with Liberalism, down with Liebrano$

Now you have Keith Martin saying An "Idiot" released the ad, Is that not the same as saying his boss is an idiot?
Mike Duffy could have fun with this one tonite, never mind the other panelist, just have Anne,Ralph & Keith.

Just heard a great parody on Rutherford. I can't remember the exact words, but it went something like this:

Steven Harper owns a dog.
Dingos are dogs.
Dingos eat babies
Steven Harper wants to eat your babies.

"Who's planning on asking Mr. Harper to explain his "conversion on the road to Damascus"? Because I'd sure like to know how he got from "pro Iraq invasion" to "no troops from Canada", among the many other conflicting statements we've been subjected to by Harper during this surreal election."

Gee....I'd like to know how Martin achieved the same thing. Also would like to know how Martin wanted to promise to use the notwithstaning clause for religious people but now wants to ban it. Wanted to ban the GST, but kept it. Ban NAFTA, kept it. Wanted to eliminate poverty by 2000, but it flourished instead.

So many questions...

The ad; what it did is this, again we get a glimpse of what goes on in the Liberal mindset.

To quote Ezra Levant…..Monday Dec. 26, Shotgun http://westernstandard.blogs.com/shotgun/2005/12/liberal_verbal_.html
And Klander's vitriol is also evident in every aspect of the Liberals' campaign. Klander's blog, and Reid's "blow me" line -- like Reid's "beer and popcorn" line -- aren't mistakes. They are rare glimpses into how Liberals really feel or think, like a single missing plank in a picket fence that allows a passer-by to glimpse into what normally remains hidden.

Someone asked?
"Why is it still running on the french stations in Quebec if it wasn't approved?"

Warran Kinsella said this morning, on Bill Good show, the ad is running in Quebec to remind people of Trudeaus War Measures Act.

I've always thought that there's nothing funny about the idea of yelling FIRE in a crowded theatre. Spending the last three weeks watching the Liberals crash into each other in the darkness may cause me to reconsider this opinion.

The Liberal candidate in Esquimalt-Juan de Fuca has apologized for this week's release of a Liberal TV ad targeting the Conservatives' defence policies. He said the ad was one of a series of 12 – and it should never have been released. "Some idiot went and sent it out with the other 11 ads, and it was never sanctioned by the party, never approved, and we are completely appalled that this went out. We apologized to the men and women in the uniform." Martin said he approved the ad so looks like the liberal candidate is calling Paul Martin an idiot.

Jonathan...You won't get straight answers regarding Harper's contradictions here. This is largely a pro-conservative anti-Liberal blog. Most people here are rabid in their belief that Harper sweats perfume and urinates sunshine.

Only time will tell the truth; by that time the conservative faithful will be knee deep in excuses and spin.

Have a read of todays TO Star editorial page, they are 100% behind Martin and the Libs: makes you wonder! Jake

Who's on first........

arthurdecco

Please go back to your cavernous black hole called myblahg and allow your self-ignited hair fire to burn there.

This and many of the site's you squirt your diarrhea on are run by and for thinking people. Not drive by verbal shooters like you and contrary to what you may think.

All you do is reinforce what it is really at stake during this election and why people are going to vote for the change that will start 24/Jan.

As my mother said. "The mendacity of mediocrity will always show up when the world needs to see it the most". And you do that in spade's. So please, go back to your sand box to play with the boy's and girl's there.

PS: Anybody willing to bet even money arthurdecco will come charging back like a bull to a red cape. He so dam predictable.

Bullwinkle...What's more important is who's rounding third. I suspect it's one of your rodent sidekick's relatives.

You know, as an American trying to keep up with this Canadian campaign, I have a perpsective that may be a little bit different.

A lot of people have mentioned that these liberal attack ads expect Canadians to be stupid, i.e., gullible without the native intelligence to perceive the obvious cognitive dissonance that the ads imply.

However, the thing that is troubling me is not that the Librano$ want Canadians to be stupid. They want Canadians to be much worse than that.

They want Canadians to be alarmed and frightened by Canada's own sons and daughters who are serving in the Canadian military. (And some of you might recall that I'm an old VietNam vet.) This is not simply asking for stupidity, it's asking for a sort of derangement. As if Canada's sons and daughters would start suddenly killing Canadian citizens and residents.

Librano$ want Canadians to be craven and deceitful about the US. You're supposed to be cowering and constantly suspicious of an imperfect but good country that wants to be the best of friends with Canada.

Librano$ want Canadians to be wimpering about the idea that some people besides criminals might be armed, that some people might be able to respond to threats with self-defense.

Librano$ want Canadians to be so pathetic that they will simply dismiss the culpability of a party that introduces organized crime families into the workings of government. They want you to be cavalier about stock market manipulations, tampering with the very security of your financial infrastructure.

And of course, the list goes on.

So my question is what kind of person would personify all of the qualities the Librano$ are hoping to mutate citizens into?

Actually, it would be a character somewhat like the gollum character in the Lord of the Rings. Canadians are not sickos. Someone who personified the Librano characteristics would be a person one was instinctively repelled by.

I am offended on your behalf.

ctv newsnet has a piece with David Akin on "idiot" and McLellan & PMPM saying he approved the ads. Pretty funny.

Are any of them being run or did the Liberals just blow their whole kitty on an ad campaign they can't run?

Oh you Liberals. Such a sad showing. No it's a great showing!
It is showing Canadians what a mess this party has become under this sorry excuse for a leader.

Keep appearing on TV Mr. Martin. Each time you trip over your own tongue. The contradictions are breathtaking.

The ads represent the over the top rhetoric of this prime minister since he came to office. No action just a lot of hot air. This morning I got the impression he wanted to run out of the room when it came time to make his fake announcement of $180 million for research. He looked dejected and sad.

Pretty soon they will have Harper eating first born babies and killing all the old people in the country so he doesn't have to pay old age security.

When a party begins to implode you might as well stand out of the way. This is what is happening to the Liberals and hopefully the Canadian people are watching and taking note. The polls should drop to single digits if this keeps us.

Saw Jean Lapierre on TV speaking in French. He says the polls will go up for the Liberals next week. Not if they let the Prime Minister continue to visit every talk show in the country. Normally prime minsiters don't do talk shows.

Glen said...This and many of the site's you squirt your diarrhea on are run by and for thinking people.

As long as they think along your lines, right Glen? Oh, I forgot, your mother's as well too.

Maybe both you boys need a time out or a spell in the sandbox.

Helen...When something implodes no need to stand back, the forces cancel in the middle.

I agree with Greg here... it is much more than saying we should believe the liberal lies, as we are so stupid...
It is that we should fear everything the government does not provide for us... and mistrust everything we have earned by honest means.
and I am reminded of "Animal Farm", when the animals become drunk in the farmers house... the page turns, the gig is up, and it all becomes undone.

Glen, that "artdecco" disruptor just proves the old adage that you know you aren't over the target until you start attracting Flak.

The Canadian blogs are proving to be instrumental in highlighting, investigating, and holding into the light of public scrutiny various things your media would rather not talk about- and the best of them, like SDA, draw these pathetic droolers like moths to a flame. Lurkers like myself know to laugh, and move on...

backhoe/trakhoe

-30-

the lib party in debt now.
what happens after they blow all the money on these ads and loose all their donors next??

other than the $1.75/vote that they voted themselves in the last election.courtesy of the taxpayer again.

capt bob: "Warran Kinsella said this morning, on Bill Good show, the ad is running in Quebec to remind people of Trudeaus War Measures Act."

Thanks for pointing that out, Captain. I saw it mentioned yesterday by Mike Duffy that the ad was still running in Quebec. I thought it strange that they (Librano$) would be doing that. Considering it would be invoking an unpleasant memory of a communist Liberal demagogue who placed the armed troops into Montreal and Quebec City (via the WMA), you'd think the Liberals would steer away from exposing their sordid past in such a way. If anything this will just drive voters further into the Bloc camp or place Harper in even a better light as the preferred federalist. Kind of dysfunctional thinking on their part, but reflects most of their campaign thus far, therefore it's consistent if nothing else.

marc...We all know the Liebrano$ goose is cooked.

I would liken the drunk animals to the euphoric conservatives here. The victory party has begun but the farmer will be showing up in 4 years.

arthurdeco - Check the article in the G&M today (is it the G&M? I think so). It states a Lieberal claim and the CPC response on most of the ads. You can see there that nearly all of the "quotes" the Lieberals use are not verbatim quotes and have been doctored. In other words: LIES. Even the ones that are true quotes are taken out of context (of course) and do not mean what the ad intends them to mean.

The ads are sick and really speak only to the desperation of the PMPMs campaign team.

An ad I would like to see:

My name is Paul Martin.
I approved these ads.
Here.
In Canada.
Oh no, I mean I didn't . . .
(gets thrown in very deep chasm like in Monty Python and the Holy Grail)

Ron
I am honored by your flack. As "backhoe" made abundantly clear we are on "target" and will politically "Fire for Effect" on the 23/Jan.

probably okd news by now but mario dumont is endorsing the CPC. good news as charest is also leaning in that direction. me thinks duceppe is finally in a race as it looks like he might loose his coveted 50+1.

I was just on Bourque, checking the latest, when I clicked on a news item (http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics/CanadaVotes/2006/01/12/1390969-cp.html) that prompted a survey by Canoe network... You answer a series of questions, after which it tells you who you should vote for. After 23 years of Conservative voting, I have just discovered that the whole time I've been voting Conservative, I should have been voting Bloc...

Canoe says I should be voting Bloc

Me an Albertan

Voting Bloc

after 23 years tory blue

I'm not making this up...

Well... I do like Gilles too... he's just in the wrong party. Wait a minute, I'm in the wrong party.

Glen...It's not really flack as we are both more or less hoping for the same result. It's more like I'm practicing and learning so I can realize my dream of being a Liberal pundit by 2010. How am I doing so far?

Wisdom from my last African safari:

"Before sawing the tusks of the Great White Elephant for a trophy, make sure the beast is truly dead or you may get gored to death."

The demise of the Liberals is being celebrated a little too soon. Although they have faltered every week of the campaign, it is certain that they have a few salvos left in their arsenal. In particular, every campaign they have ever run ends with selective dirt of their opponents being released to the media. I believe that we are now seeing the start of this with the attack ads rehashing old quotes from (or about) Stephen Harper.

Also, I don't think it was any accident that Derek Zeisman's problems with the law came out now...near the end of the campaign and after the Conservatives could replace him. (Knowing our current government, it would not surprise me if the charges against him were deliberately hidden from the CPC when they did their security checks.)

Look for more leaks to the media in the next week and a half as the Liberals unload whatever dirt they may have left on the CPC.

I find it amazing that PMPM talks about honesty and integrity. He speaks on CTV and says he approved the ads. Many Liberal candidates are saying the ad was offensive, and are distancing themselves from it at the speed of light.

Others are saying it was a mistake yet it continues to run in Quebec.

Who to believe…..who is running this joke of a party……

They can’t even get their stories straight in a major damage control exercise.

Now I really believe that PMPM knew nothing of adscam…….he is totally out to lunch…..he couldn’t have even comprehended what was going on…..he is a simpleton who will say anything to anybody for a vote….....so much for integrity.

I have never seen such an abysmally run campaign ever…….

Thank God

Ron

I have a little different take on the Animal Farm theme:

The current liberal strategy and in fact the past 13 years could have been scripted by George Orwell himself. Jean and Paul (Major and Napoleon) ovethrow the evil Farmer Mulrooney and begin setting things straight on "The Farm".

Throw in some aspects of "1984", say "newspeak":

Da proof is da proof, an investigation is not an investigation, an ad is not an ad, I didn't approve the ad/I did approve the ad..........I could go on here....

Include the "thought police" (conservative hidden adgenda, canadian values) and we pretty much have the story of our great Liberal social revolution.

Do you remember what happened to the pigs Ron?? They got drunk with power and corrupted beyond repair. Sound familar??

The rest of us animals have had enough!!!!

Goodbye Pigerals!!!

Syncro

We are the liberals who say....Nee, Nee, Nee...

Ron
Please don't quite your day job. Unfortunately you would be without a good sound job far beyond 2010.

Thanks for being on the same page about the results of this election. Take care

Daryl

There is a very interesting report on the Reuters news wire released today you my find a wee bit enlightening.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060112/wl_canada_nm/canada_politics_liberals_can_col

I agree with you, now is not the time to pop the Champaign corks yet. So I will venture a guess, I can at least put it on ice.

its in the stars folks...
went out for a puff and there's a nice full moon out there. tomorrow is friday the 13th. saturday is known, for some reason, as a wolf's moon. triple jeopardy.

Nothing wrong with posting Canadian Soldiers in Canadian cities-Ottawa would be a good place to start.

RG says PMPM did not approve the ads. PMPM on national TV says he did approve them and pulled the military ad because it "wasn't that good".

Wow!!! They can't get thier stories straight on this and I'm supposed to believe them on the IT scandal??? Why??? Because they investigated themselves and concluded they are as pure as the driven snow???

Holy Shit Batman!!!!

Syncro

The only excuse for this melt down Paulie is having is he is a compulsive liar. He has gotten away with not answers questions in the House of Commons, or he denys any knowledge of events. Paulie has dug himself into a hole, instead of stopping he just keeps digging! It is long over due for the Liebreal's to have a complete cleaning of their party. I hope we can say good bye to Paulie, Ralph, Scream'n Annie,
Scotty B.,(beam me up), BS Belinda, The GOD Anderson (retired) these are a few of my favorite things (Liebreal's) that MUST GO!

Harper’s Performance Drops 18 points...

"Also of note is that Harper’s daily Performance Index score has dropped noticeably with the launch of the new Liberal attack ads."

Leadership Index
[Daily composite of the Leaders’ Trust, Competence and Vision]

Martin 74 (-4)
Harper 68 (-18)

http://www.sesresearch.com/

I just figured it out! The Liberals want to ban all guns. No handguns for collectors. No rifles for farmers. No sidearms for border security. No guns for the military. I makes perfect sense now!

Ron's back - at least I thought he'd been away for a while. The Liberals are doing very well without you, Ron. Martin does so many turn-arounds I don't wonder you can't keep up to them, but at least try. You do think, don't you?
Read this:
May 11, 2004

WMD threat: PM

SADDAM'S MISSING WEAPONS IN TERRORISTS' HANDS: MARTIN

By STEPHANIE RUBEC, OTTAWA BUREAU, SUN MEDIA

Prime Minister Paul Martin addresses a luncheon in Montreal. (CP PHOTO/Andre Pichette)
Prime Minister Paul Martin says he believes Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and they've fallen into terrorists' hands. Martin said the threat of terrorism is even greater now than it was following the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, because terrorists have acquired nuclear, chemical and biological weapons from the toppled Iraqi leader.

"The fact is that there is now, we know well, a proliferation of nuclear weapons, and that many weapons that Saddam Hussein had, we don't know where they are," Martin told a crowd of about 700 university researchers and business leaders in Montreal. "That means terrorists have access to all of that."

'NOT OUT OF IT YET'

The PM's comments run counter to opinions expressed by leaders in such countries as France and Germany who have accused the U.S. and Britain of fudging evidence of WMDs to justify the war against Iraq.

When asked to assess the threat level since Saddam was captured by U.S. troops, Martin said he believes it has increased.

"I believe that terrorism will be, for our generation, what the Cold War was to generations that preceded us," he said. "I don't think we're out of it yet."

Martin disagreed with former prime minister Jean Chretien, who publicly blamed poverty for terrorism and the Sept. 11 attacks. "The cause of terrorism is not poverty, it is hatred."

He said he'll lead the charge to convince countries to join forces to combat terrorism and make sure the Third World has the tools to stamp it out.

Martin said he's lobbying the international community to set up an informal organization to tackle world issues such as terrorism.

GETS NOD FROM BUSH

He said he got the nod from U.S. President George Bush during his visit last month to Washington, D.C., and will take his idea to the European Union and Latin America next.

arthurdecco: has it ever occurred to you that people change their opinions over time, after receiving new information? Harper's position on troops into Iraq may very well be the result of that. Why bring up the 1993 anti-Chretien ads? Even Conservatives found them embarassing. How far back do you want to go? Liberal PM Mackenzie-Kings' remarks from 1936 in praise of Hitler? Ridiculous. Shouldn't you mention John A. McDonalds' drinking problem?
Lots of people believed the "weapons of mass destruction" story. Chretien didn't keep Canadian troops out of Iraq because of a deep moral conviction against war. There was simply nothing to gain for him. The Liberals have always acted based on what's good for the Party, not necessarily the country.
I assume you are one of those rare geniuses who always make the right choices, and never have to backtrack, or admit mistakes. Perhaps someone should consider founding a religion with YOU as Messiah.

With respect to the WMDs that are unaccounted for due to the US intelligence community blunders; even if one accepted that there may be a few out there one must ask the question:

Why on earth would slag the professionalism of the very soldiers; who would ostensibly be part of the solution, in solving global terrorism with respect to WMDs? Worse, why would one make soldiers appear as they are part of the terror problem, cast as ravaging the home population.

Secondly, given the US intelligence failures it would appear that Stephen Harpers plan of having a Canadian spy agency would go some distance in rectifying the US intelligence community failures.

At least Canadian Forces would have some decent independent intelligence; before they are willy nilly thrown into places like Iraq/Iran. This would act as a brake to going off half cocked; by back stopping proposed missions with multiple sources of intelligence.

In short, you get your facts straight, BEFORE you pull the trigger.

armed soldiers outside 24 Sussex Dr. is where they belong
.....at least until Jan 23rd

I can't help but grin that Screechin' Annie must be scared $hitless that Laurie Hahn has all but delivered her first PENSION cheque!

As I've posted before, Liberal corruption and foul ups has proven to be the gift that keeps on giving!

Hey artic front: I commented yesterday that PMPM should have to surrender his passport. I think he might be a flight risk!

Eskimo.....you might be proven correct....and i noted your post yesterday....and had a good chuckle

Anne McLellan: "...nobody approved this ad."

Keith Martin: "...some idiot approved this ad."

Prime Minister Paul Martin: "...I approved this ad."

LOL

Ha, this stuff writes itself after a while!

Ladies and gentlemen, perhaps the funniest Canadian sitcom ever, the 2005-2006 Liberal election campaign!

No Kidding!!!!!!! The Libs have a bright post election future as writers for Mad TV. This election and the liberal antics have proven to be the funniest reality show ever!!!!

Syncro

"I assume you are one of those rare geniuses who always make the right choices, and never have to backtrack, or admit mistakes. Perhaps someone should consider founding a religion with YOU as Messiah."

Posted by dmorris

That wouldn't be a bad idea, dmorris. LOL! Then I could live every conservative's wet dream - a tax-free existence! ;)

In all seriousness, I've made and faced up to more mistakes than I care to remember right now. Any thinking human being is going to make mistakes. That's how we all learn.

My problem with Harper, (and its not going away!) is that he has never admitted making mistakes or admitted that some of his previous public pronouncements are now a source of regret for him. If in fact his opinions have changed, don't you think he has a responsibility to explain to those of us voting in this election his reasons for those changes?

I certainly think he owes me an explanation, as should any thinking, responsible voter in these troubled times. Yet I have not seen a SINGLE serious response to my original question asking if it was reasonable to NOT expect Mr. Harper to explain himself in this huge on-going thread.

Unfortunately, most of you seem to be too busy circle-jerking discussing non-issues like the legitimacy of the "military ad" to consider the ramifications of a leader unwilling to explain sudden, dramatic changes in his public policy positions.

Some of you may remember that in the book, 1984, that's exactly what happens - the government switches policies and NEVER explains to the public the reasons for it. Doesn't that parallel concern you even a little? Not even ONE of you?

Is there not one of you with the courage and curiosity to deal with this issue head on right now?

Regarding the 'Dingo' parody on Rutherford today... found a link with the ad and a few other parodies...

http://www.cjme.com/decision2006/

They are quite funny.

Well Atrhurdecco I'll give you an example of Mr. Harper apologizing for pevious statements. One of the current Liberal attack ads refers to Mr. Harper making a statement that eastern Canada has a "attitude of defeat". Last fall, while on a tour of the maratimes he apologized for the statement on network TV.

Does that help art??

Syncro

People people.

Let's calm down and have an inquiry as to why these ads that have been pulled in english Canada are still running in Quebec. I'm sure an independant jurist can be found to investigate this incident and discover that this was done by some rogue elements of the Liberal party in Quebec. These are bad people, not good Liberals, that have infiltrated the party and commited these acts without the PM's approval or knowledge. He's nad as hell and he'll get to the bottom of this and fix everything so that it never happens again.

Deja vu,

(sarcasm off)

Where have I heard this explanation before???

Peter C

Goodale: "An attack ad running in Quebec was never endorsed, approved or released by the Liberal Party."

Martin: "I approved every one of those ads."

Keith Martin: "Some idiot inadvertently sent out an ad that was not approved and not supported by the party with the 11 (ads) that were supported,"

Martin: "I approved every one of those ads."

Anne McLellan: "The ad was never approved by the prime minister and should have never seen the light of day."

Martin: "I approved every one of those ads."

John Kerry: "I voted for the war before I voted against it."

Martin: "I approved that ad before I disapproved it."

I guess this is Martin's John Kerry moment. The others? Well, I guess they're all liars.

Nope. I ain't making this up either. No matter how hard I tried I could never make this up. The above would make a great ad for the CPC doncha think?

Why is it, that every time Goodale opens his mouth road apples spew forth?

Martin on AM was so sad.

I like his tactic though. Instead of finding out who I am and then basing his campaign on what's important to me (read; i'm a Canadian), he decides to tell me why Harper would make a bad prime minister. Brilliant.

Let me give you some advice PM.....if you were in prison, and you tried that same tactic, you'd quickly become of the property of 'Tim' and 'Bubba' and would be traded from cell to cell for a pack of cigarettes until you've "made friends" with everyone.

And don't look to the guards for help....they aren't allowed to have guns in Canada....

Kate and fellow SDA readers, this is the key question that you must ask the Prime Minister:

"Mr. Martin, rightly or wrongly, many Canadians felt that the 'Soldiers in the streets with guns in Canada' ad you approved implied that the Canadian Forces are a threat to Canadians. If this interpretation is correct, it would be an extremely serious problem for Canada. You have stated before the public and the media that this interpretation is wrong and that this ad merely refers to the most effective basing of our Forces and their logistical systems. Since it is virtually unprecedented in history for a ruling national leader to imply that his own army is a threat to his country during an election campaign, will you release all ad development memos, meeting minutes, emails, and other documentary evidence proving your claim that this attack ad was about efficient logistics and not, like Pinochet, about martial law?"

My name is Chris Dollis. I am a Canadian civilian.

Once, I was an Army Reservist, and my record was unremarkable.

Yet I have enormous pride in the people I served with and the people who still serve in both our Regular and Reserve Canadian Forces on air, land, and sea. They are the best young people you could imagine.

As someone who has a keen interest in military history and who observed military morale on the ground first hand, I understand how important it is for a person who has not only volunteered to endure discomfort, injury, and death, but to give up their Saturday night at an Officer's whim, that their government and their people support them.

Our soldiers are mostly peacekeepers today. They also help us each year digging out from snow storms, delivering people from floods, rescuing fishermen and families lost at sea. When they fought, they fought great evil, almost unbelievable evil, and they triumphed.

And when they came back home to Canada, they put down their dirty boots, picked up their pens, and went back to work in the offices across this country alongside you and I. Some were farmers, some doctors, a few were so injured and battered up mentally or physically that they never worked again.

They are heroes and, more importantly, they are good, hard working, honest, decent Canadian men and woman and they love this country.

Sincerely,

Chris Dollis

P.S. The answer to this question is essential to setting the historical record about the Paul Martin government and its relationship with the Canadian Forces straight.

Unfortunately, most of you seem to be too busy circle-jerking discussing non-issues like the legitimacy of the "military ad"

Non issue? Tell that to the good men and women that serve this country to protect your ass.

Paul Martin himself admitted approving that ad,only after facing descent in his ranks and from the public did he start to back peddle on it.
Obviously, the Liberals thought it was legitimate, they paid for it.

Amidst all the back and forth about whether the anti-military attack ad was approved or not before it was withdraw, almost everybody seems to miss the point that it was always destined to scare wavering Federalist francophones in Quebec (who remember without fondness the time when the Liberals sent the military into the streets) AND IT IS STILL PLAYING IN FRENCH! Go listen to the "Pour et Contre" add on the Liberal.ca website right now and you will see the army in all our cities line repeated. "Im not allowed to make this stuff up".

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