Last Friday, Finance Minister Ralph Goodale told CTV's that he would be meeting with the RCMP "next week" to discuss the RCMP's income trust investigation. He said that during an interview with CTV's Craig Oliver that was aired Sunday on CTV's Question Period. Here's the exchange where that revelation was made:CRAIG OLIVER: Have the RCMP contacted you or members of your staff for an interview?
RALPH GOODALE: Uh, yes, we'll be talking next week.
OLIVER: You'll be talking to RCMP investigators?
GOODALE: Yes. That's right.
Candace tries to keep track in the comments; "Let's see. First, we have Goodale & Martin denying there was a problem at all. Then we had Goodale say he'd told Martin, either the night before or, at least a few hours before his announcement. We had Martin confirm that he "knew" and was "one of those" in the PMO that did. Then, magically, Goodale remembers that he never DID tell Martin, after all, (the same interview where he said he was meeting the RCMP this week) and Martin says he knew "which way Goodale was leaning" but not "exactly" other than, if Goodale went in a different direction, he'd have been informed. And now Goodale apparently isn't meeting the RCMP afterall, or at least no specific meeting has been set. My child is better at BSing than Goodale is. "
Of course, the day wouldn't be complete without yet another turnaround?
The RCMP met with "The Sieve" for a "good and constructive meeting" this afternoon.
Oh, and by the way, maybe a few other senior ministers were in on the decision.
Reviewing the conflicting information coming from Goodale's office about who knew what in which order, and who's interviewing whom or not and when they are or aren't or already have - it should come as no surprise that half of Bay Street knew what was going down on Income Trusts.
They only surprising thing is that they all knew to buy.
Update - Toronto Star?
Paul Martin and Ralph Goodale have more than one story about how they acted in the income-trust scandalette, and they're sticking to each of them.
See Officially Screwed for updates.
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A round up of reaction to PMPM's speechifying from Waking Up On Planet X
Wow, there are some real eloquent critiques out there. If I were unbiased, I would include some that LIKED it, but I know we would all just point fingers and laugh, and that wouldn't be very nice (that, & I couldn't find any). So, instead, some quick... [Read More]
Tracked on January 4, 2006 1:35 AM
Honestly! & watching Goodale stutter & stammer tonight, I almost (but only almost) felt sorry for him. It's like an argument I had with a Liberal commenter on my site, who kept espousing McLellan's virtues (gag), the main ones being tenacity & loyalty. Well, we only need to look at history (not even that far back, if Hussein's minions are used as an example) to show that blind loyalty is not always something to shout about.
He doesn't comment so often these days; I wonder why?
Posted by: Candace at January 4, 2006 12:14 AMDid Goodale have his lawyer present for the inteview? Why hasn't anybody asked that question?
Posted by: Drained Brain at January 4, 2006 12:22 AMOT - they found the miners alive, apparently
http://www.breitbart.com/news/20.../ D8ETLCH81.html
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1136242214429&call_pageid=968350072197&col=969048863851
"The Liberal leader also said RCMP investigators probing whether that information was leaked illegally to investors before it was made public have not asked to interview him yet.
"'They've not contacted me, and to the best of my knowledge, they've not contacted any of my staff,' Martin told reporters yesterday after his electioneering took him to a bagel shop in Ottawa."
Did anybody ask Martin in the bagel shop whether he will have his lawyer present when the police interview him?
Just curious, since the taxpayer would undoubtedly be paying any of the legal fees...
Posted by: Drained Brain at January 4, 2006 12:31 AMhttp://home.hiwaay.net/~warydbom/duesouth/premise.htm
Ray Veccio has the answers, as does Vinny Barbarino.
Posted by: Plato's Stepchild at January 4, 2006 12:38 AMMr. Integrity is sure taking it on the chin lately and good on him. The "master of talking without saying anything" always bothered me; moreso now with all those pundits jumping on his bandwagon of his so-called clean record in politics.
His refusal to resign over this makes him no different than any other Liberal; I mean who else but a Liberal would say that "they investigated themselves and found that they didn't do anything wrong!"
Posted by: ridersrgr8 at January 4, 2006 12:40 AM"they investigated themselves and found that they didn't do anything wrong"
LOL!
Is it Ralph Goodale or Ralph Wiggum?
Posted by: Colin at January 4, 2006 12:58 AMTake a look, Martins own docters company, and the buddy whos leasing them their election jet their companys profited.This leak seems to come from Big Paulie's office if not Big Paulie himself.
Posted by: Shawn Taylor at January 4, 2006 12:59 AMThe story as it has unfolded thus far would only indicate a bunch of prevaricating bullshit.
Nobody exonerates themselves, that is the job description of the police, or the learned justice hearing the case.
So now the accused minister under a cloud, is plaintiff, judge, and jury. I'm sure all the learned justices are delighted to learn that their jobs have all been rendered irrelevant and "SURPLUS"!!
What a complete and utter mockery of due process.
Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at January 4, 2006 1:29 AMHans, you might be onto something there. If we turf all the judges and let the Ministers make the call, we could seriously pay down the deficit!
Posted by: Candace at January 4, 2006 1:44 AMGoodale reminds me of the Mad Trapper of Rat River - Albert Johnson( story link; http://www.mysteriesofcanada.com/NWT/madtrapper.htm) This real life event gave credence to the slogan " The Mounties always get their man". Time of year is also similair, January.
Posted by: Cheri at January 4, 2006 2:30 AMCTV Blogsite censorship is hair triggered.
This lightweight comment ..guillotined!
Too much redface?
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There is no end in sight for scams galore. Guess Liberals feel entitled to spend their / our surplus? TG
Posted by: TonyGuitar at January 4, 2006 3:09 AMtony, all the comments are moderated - they're sleeping. It should show up in the morning.
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OK to post this? Up from the floor; it's serious stuff, Ralphy. TO Red Star has turned its back on youse guys. Pay attention, Paul Martin/Ralph Goodale: Tweedledum/Tweedledee. (H/T Lewis Carroll, aka Malice in Librano$land.) Star says your fate is sealed, er maybe. >>>
Two ministers - two stories
Jan. 4, 2006. 01:15 AM
DAVID OLIVE
Paul Martin and Ralph Goodale have more than one story about how they acted in the income-trust scandalette, and they're sticking to each of them.
In the process, the Prime Minister and his finance minister are signalling to domestic and foreign investors that Canada's top two government officials can't quite decide who's in charge of economic policy in this member of the Group of Eight industrialized countries.
The controversy over potential leaks of Goodale's November about-face on the tax treatment of income trusts may well turn out to be a scandal of piddling proportions. But the spectacle of Martin and Goodale tripping over their tongues in recent days to distance themselves from the Royal Canadian Mounted Police's criminal investigation of suspicious trading in trust units immediately prior to Goodale's flip-flop could help seal the Grits' fate Jan. 23. >>>
http://www.rapp.org/url/?3E9OQQYD
thestar via bourque.com
Hans--Goodale is using the 'reverse onus' defence that the Liberals want to introduce.
Posted by: George at January 4, 2006 8:01 AMDid the pmo know? yes,no,yes,& no. now did you listen closely in 2nd portion of the interveiw on ctv jan3. Goodale was asked point blank, Were there other senior ministers that knew, HE STAMMERED VERY NERVOUSLY & replied YES. No wonder there was a leek, Yet the PM still denies that he knew anything SOUND FAMILIAR.
Posted by: bryan at January 4, 2006 8:51 AMThis is like hearing the script for an old Hogan Hero's episode:
Colonel Klink: "Who had prior knowledge of zee secret informations?"
Sargeant Schultz: "I don't know mein Herr Commandant. I haf seen nuszthing, I knooww nuszthing!!"
The subtext is that this crew is too stupid to be evil. For the Liberals who intend on running on their strong suit of economic prosperity this hardly underscores compentency in planning the economy.
Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at January 4, 2006 11:22 AMHey Hans, it's almost enough to make one want to move to your island. To "Ralphie" and "Fat Paul", keep on going this way, it makes you all look guilty, because we know how you S.O.B.'s operate, we'll never let up on the attack.
Posted by: Bruce Randall at January 4, 2006 11:37 AMBesides the optics of $2 billion in "relocation fees", some to "exotic" destinations, how about the optics of the $34 million loaned by Canadian banks to the Liberal war chest. Whose money is going to be used to pay this back? Taxpayers at $1.75 each vote, "political donations" that taxpayers get a receipt for, or just brown envelopes stuffed with cash in small bills?
Posted by: dog soldier at January 4, 2006 12:01 PMBruce:
We are very particular about our immigration policy on Hans Island. The competency threshold is very high.
Any Liberal schtupidities are strengstens verboten. Und vee have a 200km coastal protection area from non-existant Canucklehead patrols. Vee take fisheries und vildlife management very seriously!
Unser long range forecast is for continuing prevailing political vinds to reach hurricane status by Jan. 23rd. Vee expect howling laughter by artic wolves and foxes to continue.
Any attempted invasions of Hans Island by Liberal forces will be repulsed by maximum force.
Vee vill make zee Russian front look like kindergarten.
Vee vill tolerate no gefinger poking mit das S.7 Charter right of life, liberty und security of das person. Does zee concept of habeas corpus ring a bell all of you "reverse onus" enthusiasts? Und zees people graduated vrom law school?
"You cannot cherry pick Charter rights!" says PMPM
Vee pray zat all zees important informations, schtick to your schkulls und not on zee front of zee newspapers.
I remain yours sincerely,
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht BGS, PDP, CFP
Commander in Chief
Frankenstein Battalion
Knecht Rupprecht Division
Hans Corps
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
Notwithstanding who knew what and when, the latest Martin spin is laughable v.v RCMP IT CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION. RCMP doesn't launch criminal investigation because an MP writes them a letter. They have their reasons. And certainly the police don't reassure those who are being investigated they are innocent (unless they are politically co-opted, of course). Martin wants us to believe the RCMP are just going through the motions even though they know he and Goodale, and I guess the PMO and Finance, are completely innocent. If you believe that I have a parade square for sale!!
Posted by: Phil at January 4, 2006 12:20 PMLooks like Goodale is trying to dodge the media from getting any pictures of him with the RCMP. I wonder has anyone checked for short contracts or any other short selling when Goodale caused losses on the market several months back.
Posted by: McScotty at January 4, 2006 12:45 PMHAHAHA!!!! The golden boy of Lib ethics pulls the old bait and switch. The meeting is on wedensday......the meeting is cancelled.....slink off to the meeting. Business as usual!!!! Nice one Ralphie!!!
Posted by: Syncrodox at January 4, 2006 2:17 PM