Well in BC our gas company has already been sold to a US company. I had also heard that a large oil company had been bought in Alberta from a company out of China. I think we are a little too late on this one.

Fresh water that enters the ocean without being used is a waste of natural resources. When a resouce becomes scarce, those in posession of it will take advantage of it. The only questions are: how, and to the benefit of whom?

I left a comment over at cathies. Futile I know but well miracles happen.

Oh it was Hurrican Hydrocarbon that was bought by the CCNOC. I think I got the initials right. Anyways those guys are buying everthing thats not nailed down. You can no longer get on their website. Since that has a component of Alberta Oil in it I find it unnerving to not to be able to see what is going on.

Hell even gazprom in the country formerly known as the USSR even has a great website. And those guys invented paranoid secrecy.

I think it was the *sigh* that spurred me to go post over there. Just couldn't bear Kate feeling any futility.

With our friend Maurice Strong having bought up the land over the only aquifer in the US that has any meaning whatsoever for US water interests, (that is if you discount Alaska's sources)water WILL be sold to the US from Canada and anybody else who wants to buy it.
Trouble is the government of the day disdains selling to the US in favour of China.... and there are reasons, it appears , for that , too.
None of them having anything whatever to do with the welfare of Canadians or her 'sovereignty'

Kate stay off of those commie sites .. they will spoil your day evertime.

Ahhh, to be young and so innocent. I'm a bit disappointed that Cathie didn't mention world peace while she was at it.

Say, how about letting the United Nations take care of it all? Then everyone will be happy.

I suggest we rent it to them instead.

The amusing thing is that the last major controversy involving US-Canadian relations on water involved Manitoba's concern about water being diverted north from Devil's Lake.

http://www.gov.mb.ca/waterstewardship/water_info/transboundary/north_dakota.html

They can only have our water once the proper amount of barley and hops have been added!!!! They can give their barley brew to the kids, pretty much all water anyways!! Oh yea, and popcorn too. Hell if we're gonna export Canadian resources, might as well export "Canadian Values"!!!!

always interesting to hear the comments about never exporting water at dinner in the winter with fresh lettuce salad, asparagus and strawberries whilst surveying our frozen brown ground.usually the same bunch that want to shutin the oil and gas exports and save it for their childrens childrens children ,and living off a fat government pension paid for by the same exports.

Please tell Cathie she can keep her #$^&^%#%$# winter, too.

"Any man who is under 30 and isn't a liberal has no heart. Any man over 30 and isn't a conservative has no brain" Churchill

I'm thinking Cathy is probably 12 and has a few more years til she comes to her senses.

Ok, so what do Maurice Strong and Paul Martin have in common? Are they friends? Do they do water together? I'll wager there's a connection!

Logic is here, in logical order?>>>
Roundtable
Kate's very good post on the CBC Roundtable ends with this prediction:

Should the Liberals find themselves backed into a corner in the second phase of the campaign, I believe Paul Martin is just stupid enough to introduce the red hot issue of energy policy to inflame the debate, hoping to drive an electoral wedge between resource-hungry, "vote-rich" Ontario and "greedy, fluke of nature" Alberta

It started because of a post by Alan.

We have the Saskatchewan blogger defending Alberta against slagging from the transplanted Maritimer living in Ontario. Nice!

# posted @ 12/20/2005 03:30:00 PM
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http://talkcanada.blogspot.com/

Never stop selling oil and natural gas by proportion of our total production even if we run short
check out NAFTA that is exactly what we agreed to

We can't send bottled water to Indian reserves that have no potable water. Once it started, it would never stop, and that would be admitting that the Liberal government had ignored Canada's aborigines for 12 years.

Doubting Thomas If there wasn't so much corruption in Indian Affairs and better accountability at the band chief and council level I don't think the reserve water problem would be as bad as it is.

I just keep forgetting how Evil we all are down here. Must be the lack of Moustache Wax. I have simply got to wax my Evil Moustache more often. That, and put on my Snidely Whiplash Hat and cape, too.

Got to look the part if I'm gonna remember I'm Evil.

"Nyah-ah-ah! I'll take that water, Canada! Nyah-ah-ahhhhhhh!"

Canada already sells lots of water to the U.S., even the "Donald" has his private label water bottled in Canada. What some in the U.S. are talking about is large scale diversions and supertanker loads. Vitruvius, do you know what effect varying levels of salinity have on intertidal zones? Didn't think so.

Bruce, Strong and martin are long time friends and Strong is and always has been his chief advisor on anything environmental. He was also the chief architect of kyoto and the UN's chief environmental sop.

Western Proud, here's some interesting reading on MS.

http://home.sprynet.com/~eastwood01/mstrong.htm

I have no problem selling water to the US if they need it (which they don't, in any meaningful volume); however, I do have a problem with the Mo Weak/PM Pauly/King Desmarais clan being involved in a laughably-ridiculous taxpayer-subsidized scam to ship Canadian water to China in CSL freighters.

My first reaction is that Kathie is a lunatic living in her own solitary world.

Then I heard my niece's two teenage daughters (university students at Carelton) spouting the same garbage at a Christmas get together. I'm afraid "sigh" is too soft a reaction.

ARRGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH......puke.

Did anyone read the Canadian Press article?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/cpress/year_water_for_sale

I tend to agree with this person:

'Maude Barlow, chairwoman of the Council of Canadians, argues ... Canada's apparent abundance of blue gold is illusory.
"There is no water to spare in the Great Lakes. The only place one could go for the kind of massive water they're talking about is up north and all those rivers are flowing north, so you'd have to be undertaking huge engineering projects to reverse the flow of water.

' "So this notion that we have lots of water sitting around is absolutely false." '

I'm operating on the theory that people are very seldom any kind of smart about long-term planning. Especially when they're convinced that they're right about something.

Two cents,

All Canadian Universities and most in the US are jam packed with commies... 'useful idiots' who read and fell in love with Marxism. As Reagan rightly stated .. they simply didn't understand what they were reading.

You would see a dramatic change for the betterment of freedom, self-reliance and prosperity if we took most of the liberal arts profs and told them to get their resume's updated and find a real job.

I would adivise any young person today to learn a skill or trade .. a liberal arts BA is the sure way to ruin your brain and whatever ability you may have to think for yourself. It will also relegate you to a low pay white collar career most likely in some government office or worse .. a classroom.

I know many people who idealistically went in the 'helping professions' when they were in university. Not one of them to a person,isn't just sick to death of endless line of whiners and wimperers who are looking for free taxpayer dollars. They all have updated resume's but lack the skills to get anything in the realm of reality where there is a bottom line to consider.

aaaarrrrhhhh puke for sure.

And Pathie (as I calls her .. short for Pathological)sadly, has a lot of company. Fortunately, they are the ones who can't think for themselves and hate guns. The meek .. all talk no balls.

When the think veneer of civility is finally sheered off of our gentile kleptocracy they won't survive.

That would be .. thin veneer.
I talk to fast sometimes.

The US buys 60% of our natural gas.We are nothing more that a cheap source of natural resources.They would love to take us over in fact Eisenhower suggested just that in the 50's. They will destroy our social programs..........they don't care. We're just another Banana Republic to the US..........that's all. We are already regretting free trade but no one will move on it.The USA has everything to gain and Canada has everything to lose.

P.S. The USA has proposed to put a wall between them and us. Who's that for? Israel builds a wall to keep the Palestinians at bay..........US wants the same for Canada.Where's the Gulag!!?? All you people do on this blog is talk about freedom and none of you have the balls to protect it. Right wing nuts in the USA..Right wing nuts in Russia.............paranoid right wing nuts in Israel!!!!!!! And the we have our own Tory Kook............Stphen Harper. He wants to arm Canada like we're at war?????? You keep on taking up arms for America and you'll destroy a beutiful place.........Canada!!!Be careful what you wish for tories. Some nightmares are reality. The only good thing we can learn from the USA is what not to do.But they do have good music.

ok4ua wrote: paranoid right wing nuts in Israel!!!!!!!

With Palestinian suicide bomb attacks numbering into the HUNDREDS, (30 attacks in one year alone), I would hardly describe the residents of Israel as 'paranoid'.

Dipshit!

Check this CTV article, lots of focus on the 2 gun incidents and hardly any on the 4 with knives. http://sympaticomsn.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060101/new_years_wrap_060101

Typically myopic media - rather than reporting the news they're always trying to manufacture it.

ok4ua, you know this is supposed to be a free country, I don't think anyone is forcing you to read the posts on this blog, but you do anyway, why do you do this if it so obviously upsets you?

ok4ua wrote: paranoid right wing nuts in Israel!!!!!!!
ok4ua, I'd be interested in hearing your theory in how you believe Israel should protect itself from these murderous monsters that have taken Islam and perverted it to justify killing hundreds of innocents every year.
I think until you have to realize the horror of terrorism on a daily basis, where even venturing out to a coffeeshop could end in your death, perhaps you shouldn't be so quick and harsh in your judgements of Israel.

Salinity in intertidal zones.

Arctic --lets see --- spring runnoff. major , winter
effects none.

what do humans use in Canada of the natural flow--
less than 1% and that counts use and reuse.
a tanker full is maybe 0.001% of one minutes flow of the St Lawrence. you can tell that easily as they are floating in it.

human scale is miniscule - you should get that feeling everytime you see a flood or a hurricane or a tsumani.

seabed off indonesia slipped 20 ft?, well figure out the number of times that has to happen to make a trench like the off the other coast. 50000 ft of water. or how many faults and shakes it takes to lift limestone to the top of everest at 29000 ft in the same technonic system.

puny puny humans.

Cal2, you embarass yourself.

yes.... your right , the average tanker is .1% of the flow per minute. I missed a converstion factor.

doesnt count the outflows of the churchill. the mackenzie, the fraser, the north part of the mississippi or the myriad of other streams and rivers that go off unimpeded from the cordillera or the sheild or the arctic coasts.

Wow, you linked to Saskatoon's #1 Leftwing Whacko--Cathie From Canada. She's nuts! At first I thought she was a teen or in her early 20s, but then she once posted about her mid-20s son.

It's hard to believe that someone her age could be so out of touch with reality.

She super-hates American Republicans and Conservative Canadians. She frequently goes on hate-filled rants against both.

And she didn't give a damn about the Iraqi people. She did not want the US to overthrow Saddam.

Cathie from Canader is in Saskabush??? On her next trip to Tim Horton's, maybe Kate could go by and smack her straight with the business end of a hockey stick.

Note to Mooonies: That was a joke people. No lefties were (intentionally) injured in the telling of this joke, although probably a few egos were bruised.

Do you "Right Ringers" know that 10 times as many Palestinians have killed compared to Jewish people? It is their homeland too maybe more so than the Jews.

Way to go Cathy. Anyone who can piss off these tories I have to admire her.I can't find your posting.

ok4ua: It is essential you proof read your posts carefully before you hit "POST".
Now calm down, everyone, let's all try to keep our comments toned down to "moderately nasty"

"Do you "Right Ringers" know that 10 times as many Palestinians have killed compared to Jewish people? It is their homeland too maybe more so than the Jews.

Posted by ok4ua at January 2, 2006 02:47 PM "

It has never been the land of the Palestinians. They have never owned anything, let alone land. The displaced wanderers of the desert, no country, NO country would take them. Egypt. Jordan, Syria...etc. When Israel was given statehood in 1948 and the boundaries were drawn , there were "interests" who fomented violence against the new state, using this old saw.
Many millions of Palestinians have taken up Israeli citizenship and accepted the responsibility and priviledges that entails.
The lies of the likes of Arafat and the French fomented much more violence and initiated acts that saw to it that the six day war took place.
Israel has earned her right to the land given in 1948 and even the boundaries that were expanded when they won the six day war in 1967. Israel has a right to exist and to fight for that existence. Palestine has no home for they have been ignored and used by the middle eastern countries and their poverty encouraged not alleviated so they would have an excuse to continue to lie. The only thing that will appease is driving Israel into the sea and the removal of every last Jew from the soil. Even if there was an argument for the Palestinians to be 'given' Israeli land, which there is not, Israel has far more earned the right to that land than has Palestine.
If anyone doubts that the Islamofascists have anything other than Israel's desired fate in mind for the West they can discard that right now.
IF we do not fight this war in the way it must be fought ( Canada included, who must join her allies in this struggle sooner or later) we will not deserve our freedoms and may well lose them if we do not wake up to what we fight.
President Bush knows how to fight this enemy. Everybody else, Democrats, lib profs, UN syncophants, and the liberals in this country had better get onside or get out of the way.

At least Arab people look the part. Not too many blondes or redheads or caucasian. You tell me how white Jewish people are from the middle east.Some have arab features but most are white. They don't look like they belong do they.Well it's something to quander.

having just returned from Jerusalem I was actually very surprised how much the local Jews , Arabs, Christians and Armenians do look the same.I think the biggest difference was in some of the more obvious
sects-- Hadasic(sp)Jews , Orthodox Christians and the Mullahs. but most of the rest of the younger ones were wearing soccer colours and Nikes like the rest of the world.

not many in Old Jerusalem looked like Ariel Sharon and the hotels had a real mix of different ethnics such as Palestinians working in them. When you walked down the street , it didnt matter which quarter you were in , they all had their hands out, the result of being a tourist spot for about 2500 years.

ok4ua - "At least Arab people look the part. Not too many blondes or redheads or caucasian. You tell me how white Jewish people are from the middle east.Some have arab features but most are white. They don't look like they belong do they.Well it's something to quander."

I 'quandered' and came up with the fact that the arranged marriages are usually arranged between cousins resulting in inbreeding. Not much chance of red or blonde hair, I'd say. And not my idea, but some Muslim religious leaders in Britain who are advising their flock to swim outside the gene pool.
A query, ok4ua: who are the biggest haters of the Jews? Read any Muslim-Palistinian literature lately?

I don't hate Jewish people on a whole......but the wall was a little much.Back in the pioneer days of the west cousins marrying was quite common.

The ignorance expressed and exhibited by the posts from ok4ua would be as astonishing as they are outrageous if not for one thing: it is shared by so many others who get their information from questionable sources or have NO information whatsoever. Combined with lack of education on the issues and subjects along with a strong hint of prejudice combines to form an altogether distasteful combination.
Goes a long way toward explaining why we have so much trouble regarding that part of the world.

I have good news and bad news.

Cathy will be joining Paul Hellyer at the UN to try and make contact with all those extraterrestrials.

That's the good news.

The bad news will be what happens to Earth when those aliens find out she and Paul are our "spokespersons."

Gort! Klaatu barata niktu!

Do you think Jewish people are a better breed than Arabs? Not likely. Jews are in Israel because their Torah say so. A book written by Jews,about Jews and for Jews. Not a bit Bias!!??I believe we are all people of the Earth. No one is any God's chosen people more than anyone else. That's my opinion.President Bush has a lot of right wing Jews advising him plus he has a lot a Arab connections.So who hates what and who? The rich Arabs and the rich Jews have a lot of influence over the President of the USA. The real enemy of President Bush is anyone who challanges him and his high placed friends.Anyone who believes in real democracy and genuine freedom.