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Careful Kate, the BDS sufferers at CTV may think you're serious.

Days after it had been widely reported in the blogosphere that even liberal law professors (and Clinton's former associate Attorney General) agreed that the President has the power (in my opinion the duty) to conduct warrantles eavesdropping of Islamofascists conversation CTV reported -as news- that Bush was retiriing to Crawford Texas for the remainder of the holidays under a cloud of suspicion.

Oh that awful Bush. There he goes again, trying to collect and connect the dots.

Check out the front page of Saturdays' Winnipeg Free Press. And for anybody with a teenager in Grade 10 taking American History, pay some attention to what the teachers are spinning.

And the Captain and Instapunk just blog whatever comes off the fax from the White House.

Bush has known for a year about the leak to the NY Times, so now they're investigating the leak when they are on the defense.

"You must understand, Preston, that...it is not the message that is important, it is our obedience to it. -- DuPont, "Equilibrium""

Steve, go back to your fantasy world and stay there. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. And what is up with this disconnected quote from some fourth rate piece of trash that no-one but you has ever read?

Hey, it's Doug the comments police guy.

I was just quoting the Wash. Post from yesterday quoting the White House about being on self-defense.

And Equilibrium is a movie. And the quote says the message is bullshit about it's ok to give up your liberty to catch bad guys, but you still obey the message cause Bush says so.

Typical rightie...bringing his master's argument to a gunfight.

steve in the DU,

How does eavesdropping on the conversations of terrorists impact our liberties?

If the FBI, anticipating a negative reaction from the FISA Court, had been less concerned about Moussaoui's privacy rights 9/11 may have been prevented and the right of 3000 innocents to life itself may have been preserved.

I have no doubt whose rights should take precedence in this matter.

Incidentally referring to terrorists as "bad guys" demonstrates your naivete on this matter.

And your personal attack on Bush will only convince your fellow travellers

So the White House has a traffic counter?

Big deal. So do I.

Heh-heh... those leftists can be so daft at times...

Isn't it odd that the same people who cried foul over the "incompetence" of the Bush administration in assessing the threat pre-911, now cry foul over espionage being conducted in an attempt to prevent another?

The bottom line is they hate Republicans. It's a form of derangement that undermines logic and rational thought.

the issue is: the msm's panacea against blogging is to distort reality and frighten the ill informed (should i illustrate examples of out right lying?). all these elements to protect their dominance can and will be issues that their suppressive policies command defence against (from their world view). we're not doing our best to sell the internet/communication/democratic tools for everyman and everywoman. we free folk aren't a commercial entity or corporate resource. we can get whacked upside the head by these fascists at any time they deem they can get away with it. and we sit back and wonder why life appears so evil. duh.

remember when the powers that be thought throwing copious amounts of money on the system? money equals control. we won that play, a lot of people even got rich from the greed gangsters. don't think they're not wanting another play. how it's gonna come about is anyone's guess. and i hope the common decent folk who know the freedom of one on one equality brought to them from the internet won't get fazed, crazed and confused. they want your money and will control everything you value.

freedom or death. what a concept.

OH good grief - that is an actual story - that somebody actually wrote and put on the AP newswire? When I first read it I thought you were joking...

Kate said: "...The bottom line is they hate Republicans. It's a form of derangement that undermines logic and rational thought."

Exactly. That's the nature of prejudice. And I see it in the left, who has hijacked the formerly timeless principles of goodness and altruism and altered them in favor of their own dogmatic idealogies' objectives. They really aren't tolerant of people who are different, unless such people actually hate them and want to kill them, in which case they actually place all the blame on Bush. Weird, since Clinton spied on Americans, too, and also invaded Iraq. I guess the left is unaware of this. Brainwashed or in denial or something...

My point is not anti-republican, it is that 9/11 unavoidably and correctly means the use of invasive electronic surveillance to try to prevent another such injury.

There's no evidence yet that this spying was directed widely at critics. If it's to listen in on phone conversations and Internet chatter involving jihadists, then that is okay with me. But my point is he had other "legal" ways to do without getting into this mess of hiding the use of the NSA. He had enough good reasons to do it so he should have made sure he had congressional back-up.

It can be done easily in Canada, but as citizens we should have oversite too. If this spying were to swing over to critics of the war,the news media on a wholesale basis or to average joes I'd feel differently about it. But I do not see any evidence that it has. In the meantime, I don't see how it can be avoided.

Steve,

Based on your previous posts I never would have known that you support what are, in context, reasonable measures of self defence.

However you are wrong when you assert that the means employed are not legal. Don't believe the NYT-MSM spin. The case law clearly says that the President has the power under article 2 of the Constitution to conduct warrantless surveillance of the enemy.

Put yourself in the position of Bush in the context of this war. Your job is to use every legal means at your disposal to defend the country. Why would you seek the permission of Congress to do what the Supreme Court has said you have a right to do?

What if a politically motivated Congress demurred? What would you do then? There are a lot of whackos out there in positions of power and influence who don't realize what's at stake.

As an example close to home, seven years after bin laden declared war on American led western civilization the far left CBC still refers to this war as the "so-called war on terror"- and they don't mean it should be called "the defence against Islamofascism."

About 30% of the U.S. population is like -minded, including most of the opinion makers.

Bush is not the enemy. He's a good man doing his best in the face of bloody-minded and clueless criticism from people who put partisan politics ahead of the interest of the nation -indeed ahead of their own interests. If these people were half as smart as they think they are they would know that their ill-advised attacks on Bush are encouraging the enemy and prolonging the war.

A counter! Big deal - who cares. And spying on their citizens. Doh! Canada IS a foregn country - we are not exempt, they spy on us; And have people forgotten Canada's War Measures Act and PM Trudeau envoking it for a couple of sepratists - who were later sent on a vacation to Cuba.

Kudos to Terry Gain for so eloquently stating and opining on the War on Terror. His views are a breath of fresh air and are truthful. As a Left Coaster, I encourage you to speak often and continue posting! America is NOT the enemy; Islamofascism is and President Bush speaks for me, a Canadian. While I most certainly do not agree with everything the President does or says, I agree with him on some of the fundamental issues of the day. Remember, Winston was hated and deplored as a war-monger in the 30's.......

NYT Headline sometime in the 40's:

Allied forces intend to storm the beaches of France....

Allied forces break the German codes for...

I can only say that I speak for my family tree. My family died in the hope of a democratic Europe. I had family that was sent to the gulags of Russia, killed by Nazis and I will not let IslamoNazis sieze our political discourse. Treasonous bastards were silent, unlike today.

Whoever released classified information needs to be tried in a court of law and summarily executed. The ashes of my family demand it.

Long live the Anglosphere.

Oh, and let us get the Liberals out of power. They are no friend of democracy.

Terry:
I'll never be a member of the Cult of Bush, but I do think the war on terror demands this kind of defence.

I won't even talk about here about what a complete disaster he is as a President.

Mike Shmidt:
I'm going to assume that when you say "Whoever released classified information needs to be tried in a court of law and summarily executed" ...that you're not talking about Karl Rove.

"Treasons greetings" was on his christmas card.

Counters, cookies, hey that's fine. We need them for certain tasks. The only problem is that you never know what we are using the cookie for. That leads to speculation and thoughts of big brother spying on us, especially when it is the nsa.

But let's be honest, these are tools of the trade in the web business. You should be more afraid about what you don't know is happening on the server end. On the server side you could easily be tracked, profiled, pinpointed, traced, monitored, sniffed and recorded after visiting a page without the benefit of a cookie or counter. Hey, this is the gov't. They can translate your IP address into all your personal details if they want, and they can sniff everything you do online.

Cookies and counters are nothing. I don't know how this stuff makes it into news. I guess the guys that wrote a story haven't researched what a cookie is much. Remember a few years back, around 1997, when everyone was afraid of a cookie and you were told to turn them off in your browser? My, how the times change. Apparently the reporter is stuck in the past.

My web site has a counter, too! Wow! I guess the AP will write me up soon, huh?

Any slightly competent computer user can handle cookies. Incompetent ones are probably not on any secret government agency's list of "dangerous" people.

Jeezz! Next we'll be getting the lowdown on GW's shoe polish, and how it endangers peasants in Equador!

It would do all people of freedom and liberty good to do some historic revisiting of the news media starting about 1935. You'll find, that from that time on, it became increasingly socialist. For example, not until Russia was invaded by Germany, did the balance of US press support US involvement in war. Not until Pearl Harbor, did the press even consider for a moment anything but isolationism. They pushed for the creation of the UN with enormous power for Russia, and went incredibly soft on communists, and became the great defenders of super-spies like Alger Hiss and the Rosenburgs. I suggest people pick up and read any of the three books written about the Venona project, and you will find how heavily influenced and actually penetrated the media was by Soviet plants. Up intil the 1950 or even 60's, many editors and journalists were hardcore communists, with code names, and regular contact with the USSR. If you think this is commi-bashing fantasy... read up on Venona.

After the fall of communism the proteges of these same people remained in the press, and passed on their attitudes. Nothing has revealed their incredible bias and socialist world view more than the advent of Talk Radio, Cable News, and now Internet. In order to fight their monopoloy on information, the media have dropped all pretence of nuetrality and are at war with you and me; especially on geo-political issues.

The greatest enemy facing freedom today is not Islamofascism; it is a media that sees itself above the masses, as a superior teacher of the fools who vote. The arrogance that oozes from the big networks is palpable, and it's approach to the new media (talk radio, internet, cable news) is indicative of how much it hates anything right of center.

Freedom loving people should be thankful for the new media, because it is part of a revolution; a revolution that has destroyed the dominance of Socialist media over our lives. The impact of this new media is being felt in North America in very profound ways, and all of you who frequent the internet blogs are a small part of it.

No longer can the MSM spout its mono-news, mono-worldview. There are too many of us watching and dissecting the socialist poppycock.

Happy New Year All!

The modern corporate media work for the advancement of their patrons. (In Canada this would be the federal control agencies that allow them to operate) Historically, media been nothing more than a tool for mass manipulation ever since some partisan zealot discovered the printing press could empower his aims. Distorted media adovocacy knows no loytalty to any particular partisanism or orthodxy....they are all guilty of scamming us by manuipulating reality.

The astute and reasoning individual has learned to recognize both vulgar and subtle advocacy in media and adjust his credibility levels accordingly.

The real danger is when a population is so dumbed down to the constant war of ideas that rages in public debate, that they take partisan manipulative journalism at face value. This is linear with observations of the early Bolshevik propagandists who had a saying: " the more ignorant a population the easier it is to educate them to your advantage".

This may explain the popularity of the Tor-Star in the GTA.

John Hinderaker at Power Line has a good analysis today of Presidential powers and the legality of the NSA intercepts under the caption "Some Thoughts On Youngstown Steel"

http://www.powerlineblog.com/

National Nitwit has breaking news of President Bush's plans to expand the spy program.

"Cookie and Counter-Gate!"...this shows both the venomousness and desperation of the anti-Bushies.

Let's not talk about the huge success to date of the War on Terror, the trememdous strides already achieved in Iraq and Afghanistan, the multilateral (YES, MULTILATERAL!) successes in international combatting of Al Qaeda. To talk of these will only show that Bush and his Republican Administration are both correct and successful.

Rather, let's keep up the ceaseless fire of nonsense, of which the left wing journalist-manufactured "Cookie and Counter-Gate" is typical. The Left is again acting on the old aphorism of "if you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle them with b*llsh*t".