Alpha Blog Watch from The Meatriarchy
What are the Alpha Bloggers posting about today? Kathy Shaidle has more evidence of Wikipedia’s clay feet (I like Wikipedia but it sure has taken a beating lately). Now the Washington Post has refused to retract an article it wrote which conta... [Read More]

Tracked on December 19, 2005 8:34 AM

Never underestimate the power of the internet, you dumbass. from Lowest recorded temperature in Alaska? -80°F, 01/23/1971, Prospect Creek.
In other news, an anal polyp responds to an email, providing us with this example of why EFL classes are fucking useless. take your NRA , GUN LOVING ASS BACK TO THE U.S. WHERE YOU BELONG, E. BETITO Wassup, Elroy? Did you lose the CAPS LOCK key for [Read More]

Tracked on December 19, 2005 9:21 AM

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Kate at Small Dead Animals has copies of an email from a Liberal campaign manager telling a voter what they can do about the gun ban. [Read More]

Tracked on December 19, 2005 5:41 PM

Elie Betito: Massaging The Message from Complacent Nation
Click for full article from SmallDeadAnimals.com Complacent Nation Editor's Note: Please read the entire post at SmallDeadAnimals.com. It's an interesting read from start to end. An email from Elie Betito, the campaign director for Bonnie Brown, Oak [Read More]

Tracked on December 19, 2005 9:28 PM

Do they not realize these things will be made public? Talk about stupid.

Wow, kudos to Stacey Cherwonak. I have a new found respect for the RCMP front line staff.

Now we all now that if a Conservative Party operative did something like this, it would be plastered all over the traditional media channels. I wonder what will happen to this story? It's been found live on the web now at major Canadian political sites, maybe they won't be able to ignore it this time.

Kate,
You are definitely on a roll.

I just wanted to thank you for all your hard work.

It makes living in Trudeau's nightmare that much easier.

Doug

"I'm not a psychologist - I just play one on the internet - but does this sound like the response of someone who's happy and optimistic about the direction the campaign is going?"

It sounds to me like someone who is responding to an ignorant twat that signed off their message, "sick to death of you lying bastards."

What do you rubes expect is going to happen when you spit on people all day long.

Wow is right! Foolishly, I used to think that the people who worked for politicians/candidates running for office had some diplomacy. Either I was wrong (quite likely) OR the Liberals are having a really hard time getting quality help.

Here's one explanation.

Betito just saw that photo of Martin with the flat tire.

The Libs are toast and they can't get over it.

Robert,

Need help soonest. Bring a jack and a spare tire.

Sincerely,

Kate,

PLEASE do us a favour at send this to as many MSM outlets as you know (maybe mention it on the cbc blog). This is the sort of statement that we could use to roast the liberals.

Hey Robert,

Great example of liberal methods. 1) make lame excuses for the conduct of people on your side (isn't it the JOB of campaign workers to deal with angry voters?) and 2) show plenty of class my needlessly insulting people (TWAT? now THAT'S CLASSY)

Stacey Cherwonak is my kinda gal. I just hope nothing bad happens to her for speaking her mind in this free democratic country.

If needed, let's all support this women is anything bad happens to her for exercizing her right to free speech.

Trudeau's nightmare indeed.

Duke

Well, Candace, I certainly saw a lot of diplomacy at the Alberta Aviation Museum last Saturday during Mr. Harper's rally. But I haven't seen it covered as such. Consider the following article at the Edmonton Sun, in which Mary Talbot implies that waiting for Mr. Harper is like waiting for Hitler:

http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Election/2005/12/18/1358332-sun.html

For the record, my letter to the editor has been sent as follows: "I stood six feet from Mary Talbot for twenty minutes at the Alberta Aviation Museum last Saturday while she talked to the media. She was clearly agitated. She then moved to the back of the hanger and apparently created a commotion, attracting the attention of the volunteers, security personnel, and plain-clothes RCMP. When Mr. Harper arrived at the site, his staff invited her to meet with him then and there. The rally was held up for twenty minutes while 600 people waited for Mr. Harper to address her grievances. She was not mistreated."

As I wrote above, I'll now be watching to see if and how the Betito story is covered, now that it has broken.

I'm a little suspicious. I once had a few conversations with Elie when I was writing a story about Apotex. She was careful and guarded. You don't become a spokesperson for Barry Sherman by being a loose cannon.

If the email is indeed true, she must be having a complete psychological breakdown.

You oughta know Robert, you oughta know.

I would think Apotex would also want to know that an employee is using their email for Liberal business and being rude about it as well.

Kate:

Some background on Elie Betito:

http://www.mentalhealth.com/mag1/p5m-dr03.html

Doctor may be in legal battle after reporting negative findings of drug company study
TORONTO - When Dr. Nancy Olivieri presented clinical trial results at a recent hematology meeting, she was risking litigation by the drug's manufacturer for contravening a confidentiality agreement concerning her findings.

The drug is manufactured by Apotex Inc., Weston, Ont., part of an expansion by the company from making generic drugs to developing drugs of its own.

Contacted about this issue, spokesperson Elie Betito, director of public and corporate affairs for Apotex, read a prepared statement: "Data from our clinical trials support the safety and efficacy of the drug, and we are proceeding with international regulatory filings for marketing approval."

No one else was available for comment, Betito said, and he declined to answer further questions.

More at the link above...

Someone GET THIS ON THE NEWS!!!

It'd do wonders.

PS:

Why hasn't the MSM covered scott reids 'blow me' comment?

If harper had said it about quebec, he'd be toast right now.

I wonder where Ms. Betito's ass originally came from? Sounds Fillipino...funny she would be telling other people to get out of this country because of their beliefs.

Sorry, it doesn't make living in Cool Guy's nightmare any easier, but good for a smile.

Thanks for your blog, Kate, though since I refuse to read/listen/watch Canadian media, er... Media, your laconic references sometimes leave me scratching my head. Not a problem though. Better that than than the interminable yakkety yak of most blogs.

Jack
North of 50, west of 125

While it is the case that this story is still young, early developments suggest that it may be yet another example of the old aphorism that people who live is glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Not even in cyberspace. Citizen detectives: please carry on, we're counting on you. As Victor Davis Hanson wrote:

"The Founders saw the café theorizing of Continental elites and French philosophers as a danger to good government, which requires not some grand, all-encompassing blueprint but rather institutional checks and balances and a citizenry of perennially vigilant individual citizens."

Shawn,

The Scott Reid Alberta comment is not on the news because the person to whom it was said, Don Martin, will not go on the record.

If Don wanted to he could agree to it and then the post could plaster it on the front page, but Don is quoted as saying "comments made in the bar should stay in the bar"

I must say I agree with him, but his colleague Bob Fife disagrees that comments off the record are that way. Journalism is NOT a profession so the ethics and honour of each journalist must be judged individually.

As for Bonnie Brown and Oakville South....

Well, Bonnie won in 93 and stayed, at least till the last election because of split voting, the alliance and PC numbers always exceeded her votes by a healthy margin.

Last election....tough call but lots of con voters stayed home, saw that in my own riding (Oakville South was my old stomping ground). I am confident Bonnie wont be around after the next election. My own riding, Thornhill, well less confident. I will tell you though if Thornhill goes CPC (it was PC in before the last prov election) then you are looking at a CPC surge.

Bonnie will be gone, it is a return to traditional voting patterns and Oakville South is a natural CPC riding.

Robert: "ignorant twat" Is that "truth to power"?

Given the corporate (drug friendly) policy coming from the standing committee on health, maybe we should be more concerned that the chair of the standing committee on health (Brown) has staff members from baby pharma (Apotex). I'm sure it is just coincidence that former minister of health (Rock)was an Apotex lawyer...hey just a sec! Isn't he now at the UN trying to get Canada to send generic AIDS drugs to Africa (with Steven Lewis). Gee, I wonder who will making them? I know as taxpayers we'll be paying for them via CIDA. No...the Libs could never be that cynical!

Peter H

Apotex Apotex Apotex & SSMartin: Wealth Care by SSMartin.....

"But Canada's new PM, Paul Martin, has just enjoyed a large fundraiser courtesy of Barry Sherman, billionaire CEO of Apotex." >>>>

Summary of Olivieri Saga with the Drug Industry and Drug Licensing

January 13, 2004

Dear Friends and Colleagues:

I am writing to update you on a recent ruling of the European Court of Justice in December 2003 which I believe that you will consider important, and to ask you if you would be willing to sign the open letter to Prime Minister Paul Martin from the Canadian Health Coalition. As you will understand, these two issues are related. We need to ensure that Canadians are not placed in the same position as Europeans.
...........

Are Canadian patients protected? It should not surprise Canadians that no such toxicity testing has been demanded by Health Canada. Despite enormous lobbying, deferiprone was not approved by the previous government. But Canada's new PM, Paul Martin, has just enjoyed a large fundraiser courtesy of Barry Sherman, billionaire CEO of Apotex. Canadians should hope that this fundraiser will not influence the decisions of our new government with respect to deferiprone.

The process of drug approval in North America and Europe is conducted in secret: if you don't risk everything to challenge the companies, and go to court as I did, you will never find out what data were, and were not, submitted. This does not serve patients, or the public interest. I am profoundly concerned that the scientific assessment of this drug by the European CPMP was distorted and undermined by inaccurate and incomplete information. I am concerned that the same will happen if the Food and Drug Act is dismantled in Canada, as our Open Letter to Paul Martin emphasizes. >>>
http://www.doctorsintegrity.org/paulmartinjan2804/nfosummary.htm

I am in Bonnie Brown's riding and not to rain on everyone's parade, Bonnie has had a great deal of success playing the anti-american card in Oakville. She is more discrete than Carolyn Parrish but she is made of the same cloth.

Steve L.

More re SSMartin's Wealth Care & Apotex & an Open Letter to SSMartin>>>>>> Blowing the whistle on SSMartin's Wealth Care>>>>

Help Promote Health Safety

Dear Colleague:

I am writing you to ask for your help because on January 28, 2004, many individuals concerned about the current level of health protection in this country will be gathering in Ottawa to examine Health Canada's proposed changes to Canada's Health Protection Legislation.1 Now being proposed by Paul Martin's government are speeded-up drug approvals, a shift of the burden of proof from drug companies to the public (under this new legislation, products will be presumed safe unless harm is proven) and direct-to-consumer advertising. These proposals abandon the "precautionary principle"-based legislative framework of the current Canadian Food & Drugs Act -- and I believe that these policies will place Canadians at risk. The painful lessons from the tainted blood disaster, drinking water contamination, and other catastrophes in this country have shown some of us that we need a society in which those least able to defend themselves from unknown risks are protected.

In preparation for this meeting we have drafted an Open Letter to Paul Martin. I am hoping that several concerned citizens might agree to sign it in support. Click on links to view an announcement of the meeting on January 28, 2004 and a summary of my own saga with the drug industry and drug licensing. Sadly, our legal pleadings in the European Court of Justice were unsuccessful (a disappointing judgment was
handed down in December 2003). I am enclosing this summary because it highlights, I believe, how risky it is to place confidence in a system of health protection that allows the voice of industry to be heard above all others. That is the situation in Europe, as you will read; and this is the system that is being proposed in Canada.
...............

Thank you for your commitment to the public interest.

Sincerely yours,

Nancy F. Olivieri, MD, MA, FRCPC
Professor, Pediatrics and Medicine
University of Toronto, Canada>>>>>

http://www.doctorsintegrity.org/paulmartinjan2804/healthsafety.htm

Open Letter to Martin is here:
http://www.rapp.org/url/?J7DSUCBI

she shills for Apotex, Apotex donates +++ dollars to Paul Martin and it appears to work on the reelection campaign during office hours.

WOnder if her efforts are being recorded as part of teh election campaign ?? There are spendinglimits after all.

Wish we had her email address in tehblogsphere . . . the we could all dialogue with her and the editors of our newspapers via email.

Now we see the type of psychotic fanaticism that responsible firearms owners are faced with.

We must wonder what they were met with during the "extensive consultations" that the Liberals brag they had with honest firearms owning Canadians prior to ramming theourh the laws that criminalize uncle fred and his duck gun.

Maybe they want to deport you for owning a hunting gun...or they'd like to.

Zeig Heil the single party state marches on..tolerance for only politically correct minorities.

Ask and thou shalt receive.

To provide feedback to Ms. Betito you can reach her at:

ebetito@apotex.com

Where's Stacey's original e-mail to Elie?

As Betito is Director of Public and Government Affairs for Apotex, we need to go further up the company's hierarchy. I've sent this email off, and have sent a hard copy, with a covering letter, to the President of Apotex. We should push this issue: it's a flagrant abuse of the Elections Act.
-----------------------
I am writing to alert you to the use of your email facilities in a political cause, which I consider to be inappropriate.

Elie Betito, Director, Public & Government Affairs
ebetito@apotex.com

is using her email in her capacity as Campaign Director of a Liberal candidate in the forthcoming election to send insulting and hateful messages The following was received by a Canadian citizen:

From: Elie Betito
To: Stacey Cherwonak
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 1:30 PM
Subject: RE: Your party's announcement today...

take your NRA , GUN LOVING ASS BACK TO THE U.S. WHERE YOU BELONG, E. BETITO

The source was the email address shown above.

This is, I believe, in contravention of Elections Canada regulations and reflects most unfortunately on your company.

I trust I will receive assurances that Apotex does not support Ms Betito's views and that her use of your email facilites for partisan purposes will cease. Without such assurances I believe it would be appropriate to point this situation out to Elections Canada and to the Ontario Securities Commission.

Patrick Bramwell

Calgary, Alberta

Steve L,

Unfortunate to hear. What is the quality of the CPC candidate? If he/she is a bonehead then there will be issues.

But I do believe she has a fight on her hands. The win wasnt that large and much of the CPC vote just stayed home.

OT:

Why is this a news item? After reading the story that is the only appropriate question that comes to mind.

And why in the National Post?

Hmmmmm....

Did They (the U.S.) or Did They Not Get Permission?

One more thing. While everyone knows drug prices are higher in the US (where they're subject to the market rather than government controls), funny enough, the prices of generic drugs are higher in Canada due to various regulatory policies.

Apotex of course makes generic drugs. Among the world's biggest in fact.

So would Apotex dislike the emergence of a Conservative Party that's more inclined to introduce market pricing? Would Apotex so dislike this possibility that it would put its staff members to work for Liberal candidates?

Another interesting thing about Apotex is that it spends more money on lawyers trying to defeat other companies' patents so it can then copy their drugs, than it does on researching its own drugs.

Once it's able to copy someone else's drugs, it then benefits from artificially high prices in Canada.

Nice company.

Didn't Apotex get in on the Technology Partnerships Program? Robert, why don't you go crawl back into your cave?

I did send a nasty Email to Elie and one to her her boss.Elie appears to be out of the office.

I wouldn't bother Wmailing the the Bonnie Brown bitch ... she is lost in Trudeaupia land never to return. Would prpbably buy Elie lunch for work well done.

I read Bonny B's rez and she is a nothing more than a egomaniacal busy body, but then, aren't most left wing politicians.

I think we should all let Elie her employer know what kind of left wing BIGOT (yes it works both ways) and pathological 'police hater' she is.

Didn't a "gun loving" 25 year old police women just give her life protecting sluts like Elie just last week in Quebec. Maybe next time there is a whack job making trouble we should sent Elie to "help" rehabilitate them instead of a brave young
'gun toting' policeman or woman.

Thanks for soiling my corn flakes first think the morning Kate ... Just kidding .. it got my heart started.

Gender bender drugs at Apotex ? From the Apotex website seems as if she is a he, ie

Mr. Elie Betito
Director Public & Government Affairs
Tel: 416-749-9300 Ext. 7366
Cell: 416) 558-5491
ebetito@apotex.com

Agreed, this is an abuse of his position in the company.

Unfortunately all your hardwork to bring this story out into the open may cost poor Stacey her job. You see when she openly supported the Conservative Party Of Canada, she did so as an RCMP officer, which is evident from her signature. That is not allowed. I know a woman who was only on the local police force for a couple of month's when she was in uniform for a picture of herself and her husband, which was published in the local paper. Her husband was involved in an election at the time and that simple innocent picture cost her, her carreer. I just hope the same does not happen to Stacey.
Oh ya, how come no one has questioned where Stacey's email originated from. Was she at work and simply editted her signature? Because it just seems funny that she would have her job qualifications on her personal email signature.
Why was the original email sent to Betito's workplace and not the campaign office?
There is always more than one side to every story. Yes the reply was totally uncalled for and very rude to say the least. But at the same time the original email was rude and uncalled for itself.
You may question this type of behaviour from a political aide, but you should also question this type of behaviour from a RCMP officer. I really think by blowing this up you will cost this officer her carreer.

Vitruvius,
"The Founders saw the café theorizing of ... elites.....as a danger to good government"

Well that explains Vancouver, quite nicely! There's a Starbucks on almost every corner.

CD, I questioned it but no response was forthcoming. It's like all questions I ask here at SDA. Conservatives want to rant but none of them want to listen or take the time for a thoughtful response. That's why the party has such a difficult time getting universal support.

Hmmm as this unfolds seems Betito is about as principled as her answer. Apotex sucked up in the Librano patronage web,...political insider arrogance and profiteering...and the omni-present psychotic political fanaticism which is the hall mark of cartel insiders.

Let's keep working this Betito-Apotex-Liberal partisan linkage...I bet there's as much dirty insider dealing here as anywhere in the Librano cartel.

You may be interested to know that I e-mailed this to the Apotex PR department US.
bhamilto@apotex.com

Hey Peter, it was also Allan Rock that gave us the Gun Registry, the Auditor General's report on said subject was supposed to be released in November,but the Lie-beral's are conviently keeping it hidden from public view.
CD, my guess would be the rank and file of the RCMP support or oppose the Lie-beral's on a level comparable to that of the general population. Middle and upper management is probably quite different on that front however.

Work it WL. There's a whole pile of manure here that needs your immediate attention. Since you're full of shit you're the right person for the job.

BTW hallmark is 1 word.

Hey Robert - Martin and the Liberals have, by their own standards, failed (remember the Martin promise that he would solve the "Western alienation" problem or consider himself a failure?).

Looks to me like it's time for Westerners to go, cause I'm sick to death of you lying bastards!

What do you rubes expect is going to happen when you spit on people all day long?

Ms. Cherwonak did end her e-mail with the line: "sick to death of you lying bastards". Not exactly diplomatic.

I too hope for her sake that she didn't write to the Liberal candidate using her RCMP e-mail address. I think mentioning her job is fine, but not using the RCMP address is key.

Having a copy of the headers and emails, I can assure that a) I had Stacey's permission to publish b) the original email was not sent from an RCMP (or other government) computer, but a private one.

And c) stop trying to turn this back on the messenger. Elie Betito represents a person running for office, Stacey represents the concern of a tax paying resident of this country who has put their life on the line to serve it.

There is no excuse for telling any citizen, that you are unfit to be a Canadian if you criticize the Liberal government.

Kate your the Bomb girl.
Glad your on our side.

Another reason why I left Canada 25 yrs ago....and these guys think they should always get re-elected!

Vitruvius, I was there as well, probably 20 feet from her. There was no major dustup that I was aware of (with all the cheering & banging of noisemakers, would anyone have noticed?). I know the insiders were concerned that there might be, and they had every right to ask her to stop circulating her petition (it was, after all, a private, CPC function).

I thought that, overall, the CPC handled it well. It's not like they threw her out in the cold; she got what she wanted - to meet Harper & discuss her issue.

Is there a breach of the Act re Betito & Apotex & its CEO & The Liberal Party of Canada? >>>>

Complying with the Amended Lobbyists Registration Act - July 2005
Amendments to Canada’s Lobbyists Registration Act (LRA), in force as of June 20, 2005, have created significant new filing requirements. There are two major changes. First, simply "communicating" with a public official—without making any attempt to influence him or her—can now constitute reportable "lobbying", even where the official initiated the discussion. And secondly, where lobbying is conducted by "in house" employees of a corporation or organization, the corporation or organization’s "most senior officer" is now responsible for filing and certifying the appropriate LRA return, plus follow-ups every six months. In the case of a business corporation, the responsible officer will generally be the CEO. The following article addresses the questions we are most frequently asked about Canada’s amended federal lobbyist registration regime.
July 2005 >>>
http://www.stikeman.com/en/publications/list/

Article here:
http://www.stikeman.com/newslett/BusJul05.htm

From the sounds of the email, the Liberals in Oakville are quite scared, as I would assume the rest of the them are (as they should be).
Makes me chuckle....how in elections past the Libs would characterize their opponents as the cronies of big business....we are not hearing those ramblings this time around because we are more educated as a whole and it would get thrown right back into their faces. Bit by bit, we are winning folks.

The Steynmeister's latest: Hellyer and Ignatieff and the little green persons and Haliburton on Planet Zongo and Rumsfeld's space prisons with the Celine Dion torture special...I almost fell off my chair.

"Take me to your leader"
http://www.westernstandard.ca/website/index.cfm?page=article&article_id=1315

I like this:

"But, more broadly, isn't there something a little odd about the prodigal son coming home to be given the fatted calf of the Liberal party leadership? If the Conservative party were to propose parachuting in me or Frum or Charles Krauthammer or Barbara Amiel or some other know-it-all blusterer who'd spent time out of the country, it would be taken as a sign of desperation."

Mark
Ottawa

For what it's worth, Stacey and Elie are both men. Letters and comments will almost certainly be more effective if you avoid femine gender descriptors in your messages.

Mike: This is SDA. Facts are not important. Only slandering Liberals is.

'Don' - how many times have I told you to get a new handle? I've got this name.

Kate - the real reason why the Liberals in Ontario are getting really snarky:

Best PM numbers in Ontario - oh, oh - somebody doesn't think Stephen's scary....

http://talkcanada.blogspot.com/2005_12_01_talkcanada_archive.html#113502685809037153

Aaah... An old hippy like Robert is just as cute as a speckled pup, don'cha think?

Slander, Don, is to speak untruthfully about an individual or group, unfortunately for the Liberal's there is really nothing slanderous or, for that matter, libelous being posted here. The Lie-beral's have made their own bed and now they're going to be put to rest by the people of this land. Have fun in the wilderness Don, don't forget to pack warm clothes, it's cold up there on Hans Island.

Dear Don.... Liberals ignore facts , Always have...always will.......

Bonnie Brown wrote:
> Mr. Betito (...) has
> today resigned (...) as a result of
> these intemperate comments. While not condoning
> this response it is worthwile noting that he
> responded in kind to a private email sent to him
> in language about as intemperant as the one he
> received-read the closing line. Ms. Brown
> neither endorses nor condoned the sentiments in
> Mr. Betito's note.
> Jim LeFrancois for the Bonnie Brown Campaign
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Woods [mailto:kwoods@80below.com]
> Sent: Mon 12/19/2005 8:41 AM
> To: Bonnie Brown
> Subject: care to comment?
>
> http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/003163.html
>

Seems like the Liberals can say what they want and expect us dumb Canadians to just take it. They have been in power too long. If the dummy that said what she said about the gun thing, was working for me,,,,,she would be looking for EI right now. The gall of that big feeling twit is enough to make you puke. The Liberal thieves simply have to go.....

Hi, Kate;
Loved your article on this, as I live near the Oakville area and actually have family living in her riding. I fired off an email to her which is as follows:

On December 09th 2007 you were sent an email from Stacey Cherwonak, an accredited Firearms Technician with the RCMP, who was voicing displeasure at the proposed Liberal handgun ban. Your response was as
follows:

From: Elie Betito
To: Stacey Cherwonak
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 1:30 PM
Subject: RE: Your party's announcement today...

take your NRA , GUN LOVING ASS BACK TO THE U.S. WHERE YOU BELONG, E. BETITO


I am absolutely aghast. In light of the fact that four gallant and honourable RCMP police constables were killed in the line of duty earlier on this year (an abstract failure of the Liberal gun control, by the way) your have the gall and the audacity to respond like this?

Madam, congratulations; you are the author of the next "Beer and Popcorn" gaffe. Please be assured that this disgusting and totally unprofessional response to one of your constituents will be forwarded to all media outlets (starting with the Oakville Beaver) and may I also assure you that my friends and family residing in your riding will NEVER be supporting you or your party again.

Within 20 minutes I got a response, which is as follows:

"Mr. Betito, a volunteer for the Liberal Party of Canada was responding on his personal email to a private email sent to him. If you take a look at the email of S Cherwonak you will find that the language in it was offensive and unfortunately Mr. Betito responded in kind. Ms. Brown had nothing to do with this exchange of notes and in no way endorses or agrees with the sentiments expressed. Mr. Betito quite rightly submitted his resignation today. Jim LeFrancois for the Bonnie Brown Campaign"

Not much in the way of an apology. Keep up the good work, Kate, and we should most certainly, for the memory of those four slain RCMP officers, take these people to task for this.

Nick L.

I would like to apolagize and recind my comments I made about Bonnie Brown. I was in the heat of passion and forgot to reread before i pressed the post button. I wouldnt mind if it was deleted all together as now I see it has no relevance due to his resignation.
Thanks,
Nicholas McLeod

(I've removed Nicolas comment per his requiest - Ed)

Wow, as I say in my Darth Vader heavy breathing voice, "Never underestimate the power of the blogosphere."

I wonder what Mr. Betito thinks of this whole internet thing now?

Stacey and Elie Both men???
This same thing has gone way too far.

See it illustrated here
http://dukemcgoo.blogspot.com/2005/12/same-sex-confusion.html

Remember Ron? remember his postings? Well, click and you'll find that his email address is:
fyreballs911@yahoo.com.

He got the rise out of you HE WANTED with every posting and you never seem to really see through him.
IGNORE HIM!!

I know some of Bonnie's staffers, as I used to live not far from her local riding office.I most particulary recall the slack jawed look I got when I asked for Bonnie's response, and Chretien's, two days after 9/11, and what did Bonnie do, but blame the US.The people of Oakville deserve better than this buffoon and hack,who is able to slip under the radar with her nasty anti Americanism and class warfare rhetoric,showing the disdain she has for business owners and entrepreneurs,but doing it with a smiley face.Benito's actions are totally in keeping with the character of Bonnie, and the thuggish way she's behaved since 1993.She's a disgrace.

It appears it just hit the MSM here.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics/CanadaVotes/2005/12/19/1360350-cp.html

Pity it seems to have been pre-spun for the press.

such a dilemma.

I want PMPM to win, have the country split on his shift. If thats the only way to break the status quo at the intersection of Sussex and Bay Im all for it.

THE WEST WANTS OUT.!!!!

FREE THE WEST!!!!

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Paraphrasing Jock Ewing:"Nobody gives ya freedom. You have ta take it!

This search:
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=elie+betito&btnG=Search+News

gave me this:
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics/CanadaVotes/2005/12/19/1360350-cp.html

Betito & Apotex & Nancy Olivieri: Thalidomide? No, deferiprone.>>

Report clears researcher who broke drug company agreement

David Spurgeon
Quebec

A new report has urged Canada's federal government to do more to curb attempts by pharmaceutical companies to influence the conduct and publication of clinical studies carried out by researchers into their products.

The report, commissioned by the Canadian Association of University Teachers, follows a four year dispute at the Toronto Hospital for Sick Children, centring on attempts by a drug company to prevent publication of results of a trial that were unfavourable in relation to one of its products.

The dispute began after researcher Dr Nancy Olivieri decided to break a confidentiality agreement with Apotex, a Toronto based pharmaceutical company that was sponsoring her research. She published results critical of the drug deferiprone, which she was testing in young patients with thalassaemia, in the New England Journal of Medicine (1998;339:417-23).

Dr Olivieri, former head of the hospital's haemoglobinopathy programme, was threatened with legal action by Apotex and also removed from her hospital post, though she was later reinstated (BMJ 1999;318:351).

Now a report into the affair, commissioned by the academic tenure and freedom committee of the Canadian Association of University Teachers in 1999, has exonerated her. It concluded that Dr Olivieri's academic freedom was violated when the pharmaceutical firm Apotex stopped the trials and threatened legal action if she went public with her fears about deferiprone.

Reacting to the report, Dr Olivieri said in an article in the Toronto Globe and Mail newspaper (2001;Oct 31:A15) that neither the hospital nor the university, “both anticipating large donations from Apotex, supported me in fulfilling my ethical obligations to my patients or my scientific obligations to the public.”

She said the report confirmed that, after her announcement of her findings, she experienced “five years of personal vilifications, reprisals and harassment.
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1121590

More Betito:

News article on report about drug researcher was biased

Elie Betito, director, public and government affairs
Apotex, 150 Signet Drive, Toronto, Ontario, Canada M9L 1T9

Editor—I wish to draw attention to an error in an article by Spurgeon.1 The drug company Apotex was sponsoring research into a new drug, deferiprone, and terminated a contract with one of the researchers because of several matters, but not as a result of her publishing her claims about the investigational drug.

The researcher declared her intention to publish her claims only after the company had terminated her contract. Had Spurgeon contacted other parties involved in this controversy he would have realised that the information on which he reported was inaccurate. Instead, he seems to have relied on a report commissioned by the Canadian Association of University Teachers, a union of teachers that was supporting the researcher. >>>
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1122527

It's easy to email her/him/it:

Whats wrong with you brother?

Then past:
From: Elie Betito
To: Stacey Cherwonak
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 1:30 PM
Subject: RE: Your party's announcement today...

take your NRA , GUN LOVING ASS BACK TO THE U.S. WHERE YOU BELONG, E. BETITO

easy as pie....

All the time I was exchanging emails with Elie, I always assumed he was a she. Maybe that's another reason I was suspicious of his email (her), it just didn't sound like something a woman would say.

Learn something everyday at the Roadkill Diaries.

Intemperate??

I'm going to send this as e-mail to Browns office.

This is my posting to the SDA Blog re; the despicable treatment of citizens who complain to your office, and to the lame attempts to deflect criticism and the dishonesty exhibited by your staff.

Jim LeFrancois as most LIberalistas seem to do has missed the POINT completely while attempting to justify the Betito comments goes on to claim this was a "Private E-mail" to Betito!
So your contact directory shows the riding information contact is ebetito@apotex.com and a communication sent to that contact is "Private"....right! What a load of arrogant crap that is!

I've got news for you pal! When a citizen contacts a political office it is not your business to pass judgement on the "tone" or choice of words.
However when you speak or write to any member of the public you will be held accountable!

Serves Bedito and you damned right to get skewered for it!

And by the way I suppose you are too thick to have noticed that Mr. Beditos email was a business address for his employer Apotex? And you still chose to use this resource?
So much for your ethics!

"Health Care or Wealth Care"?

Blogs digging/boring into the underbelly of the corrupt AdScam Chretien/SSMartin Wealth Care/Health Care Beast.

Jim Lefrancois has been mentioned. Notice the mention of Lefrancois's e-mail. More: >>>

Health Canada: Clarifying Bonnie Brown's position on our Health Freedom Bill C-420
Posted on Saturday, June 19 @ 15:22:35 EDT
Pharmacartel & their Politics of Health COPY FROM THE FRIENDS OF FREEDOM TO ALL OTHER FEDERAL ELECTION CANDIDATES:

Dear Jim LeFrancois from Bonnie Brown's campaign.

Sorry we cannot remove you from our grassroots communications system.

Please confirm that Bonnie Brown is aware of and has authorized your actions.

Bonnie Brown was in a very key Liberal role as Chairman of the Standing Committee on Health.

Our delegations had met with Bonnie Brown, and in the meetings and follow-up telephone conversation Bonnie and her staff appeared supportive of "FREEDOM IN INFORMED CHOICE" for Canadians, and acknowledged the enormous influenced on our federal Parliament, senate, and bureaucracy exerted by the "PHARMACARTEL" financial interests.

WE WERE VERY UPSET AND DISAPPOINTED OVER BONNIE NOT SUPPORTING OUR HEALTH FREEDOM BILL C-420 last October, and now your e-mail!?

So that our supporters in your riding know who to vote for, please confirm immediately Bonnie Brown's position on Bill C-420 and working with our groups to eliminate the corruption caused by one of the world's most powerful financial lobby group that is killing needlessly 10's of thousands of Canadian every year just for profit.

SEE ATTACHED FILES FOR THE EVIDENCE SUPPORTING OUR ALLEGATIONS.

HEALTH GATE CANADA WILL BE SHORTLY THE LARGEST SCANDAL IN CANDIAN, AND US HISTORY!

Which side of this scandal does Bonnie Brown want to be on, and does she want to be re-elected to Parliament?

Yours for informed freedom of choice for all Canadians,

Trueman Tuck

Standing Committee on Health

Analysis of Relative Risks and Levels of Risk in Canada

-----Original Message-----
From: Brown, Bonnie [mailto:BonnieBrown@teammartin.ca]
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 1:37 AM
To: myrights@friendsoffreedom.org (Friends of Freedom)
Subject: Re: [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 05.97/05.00] Excerpt from Health Care orWealth Care? by Zoe Lenska

Your note is quite frankly barely coherent. Please remove us from your mailing list. Thanks.
Jim LeFrancois for the Bonnie Brown campaign. >>>
http://www.friendsoffreedom.org/article.php?sid=3611&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

If Stacey is a Technologist with the RCMP. Stacey may in fact be a civilian-employee and not a member of the RCMP. Someone needs to verify Stacey's standing.

If Stacey is RCMP.....then would be subject to dismissal. But if it was done on personal time, then the e-mail might fall into a grey area.

If Stacey is a civilian, then may be subject to some heat and eventually get forced out...depending on the election outcome. Ya know what I mean?

Let's see what comes out in the wash....

Re: Betito : Is there a breach of the Act? It appears that Betito was the Riding President at the same time as he was lobbying the Liberal government on behalf of Apotex. What is the position of Apotex CEO on this? Of Bonnie Brown? Of Betito? Of Martin? Was there compliance with the Act? Was the Act breached? This is a serious scandal. The Liberal Party may have engaged in criminal acts; Betito may have engaged in criminal acts. Was Liberal Bonnie Brown involved in this? >>

Complying with the Amended Lobbyists Registration Act - July 2005
Amendments to Canada’s Lobbyists Registration Act (LRA), in force as of June 20, 2005, have created significant new filing requirements. There are two major changes. First, simply "communicating" with a public official—without making any attempt to influence him or her—can now constitute reportable "lobbying", even where the official initiated the discussion. And secondly, where lobbying is conducted by "in house" employees of a corporation or organization, the corporation or organization’s "most senior officer" is now responsible for filing and certifying the appropriate LRA return, plus follow-ups every six months. In the case of a business corporation, the responsible officer will generally be the CEO. The following article addresses the questions we are most frequently asked about Canada’s amended federal lobbyist registration regime.
July 2005"

http://www.stikeman.com/newslett/BusJul05.htm
>>>>>

"Williams said Betito had been riding association president for about two years."
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics/CanadaVotes/2005/12/19/1360350-cp.html

"What happens if a Government official initiates the communication?

The amendment to the LRA requiring registration for communication with a public office holder now includes communication initiated by an official. For example, it is now considered lobbying if you reply to an oral or written request from an official or you are invited to a round-table discussion or other stakeholder consultation on a policy proposal. The exceptions would be a communication restricted to a simple request for information or an invitation to an open forum that is a matter of public record.

What are the reporting requirements for consultant and in-house lobbyists?

Consultant lobbyists need file only one return for each lobbying "undertaking", even if this involves several communications with one or more public office holders. An "undertaking" is an agreement, for payment, to communicate with a public officer for any of the purposes set out above. Note that if the chairperson or member of the board of a corporation or organization is an outside director (i.e., not an employee) and receives remuneration beyond reimbursement of expenses, then registration as a consultant lobbyist applies to any lobbying activities.

A corporation or organization must file a return if "any part" of the duties of any person or persons it employs is to communicate on its behalf with public office holders with respect to the matters indicated in the table above. "Any part" is understood under the LRA in such a way as to create what is essentially a "de minimis" rule that relieves corporations or organizations that carry out negligible amounts of such communication from the LRA filing requirements:

*

Where the corporation or organization employs just one such employee, "any part" means "any significant part", which the Registrar has previously interpreted to mean at least 20% of the employee’s time.
*

Where there is more than one such employee, the same absolute threshold applies: that is, a return must be filed if the cumulative lobbying duties of all employees are the equivalent of 20% of the activities of a full-time equivalent (FTE).

For example, if four employees each spent 5% of their time lobbying, a return would have to be filed because that would be the equivalent of one employee spending 20% of his or her time lobbying. The 20% calculation can be performed one of two ways:

*

estimate the actual time which will include preparation time (e.g. a one-hour meeting requiring nine hours of preparation will total 10 hours for lobbyist purposes), or
*

estimate the relative importance of lobbying within the various duties for which the employee is responsible and determine the proportion related to lobbying activities.

The most senior officer responsible for filing returns will ultimately be accountable for the decision as to whether or not a disclosure is necessary." >>>
http://www.stikeman.com/newslett/BusJul05.htm

My first reaction after reading Elie's e-mailed response to Stacey was drop down lie on the floor roll around laughter. Ask all yourselves one question, how would you re-act to someone calling you "...lying bastards"? Pity the Riding Association is distancing themselves. A little less mealy-mouthedness and a little more of backbone would go a long way.

My last reaction to Elie's "intemperate" response (after reading all the blogs) is still drop down roll around on the floor laughter. Serves Stacey right for sending such a profane message to a personal e-mail address site. What did he think Elie's response would be? Mea Maxima Culpa?

Oh! One last thing. Isn't Stephen Harper on record as saying he supports the handgun ban as well?

I can't believe anyone would use the deaths of four RCMP officers in their overblown attack on Betito. What do the deaths of these officers have anything to with Betito? Those officers are dead because some guy hated cops and violently took it out on them, which is not the Liberals fault. Secondly, it is SHE who offends the memory of these officers by signing off using her RCMP credentials right before she calls the Liberals "lying bastards".

Whether she likes it or not, the Liberals are Canada's natural governing party and have made Canada much of what it is. They have been in power for 2/3 of our history as a nation and we are doing alright.

If Canada is a country you are proud of despite its faults, I cannot see how someone can hate the Liberals while simultaneously claiming to love Canada. Maybe people full of hate for our government should look inward... either that or get a university education. Honestly I don't think Conservatives, with their pessimism and cynicism, have any idea what it has taken to keep this great country together for so long

The handgun ban, while not a total solution to gun crime, is not worthy of this emailed attack on the Liberal staffer.

I don't support everything the Liberals have done, but I think they were courageous in opposing the unjustified and illegal attack on Iraq, they were right to criticize the opposition of the United States to ratifying Kyoto, they are right to oppose drilling in a wildlive preserve, they are right not to support tax cuts for the rich, and they were right to instead spend said money on health and educational investment (actually thats also thanks to the NDP), I could go on.

All I can say is...

Vote NDP!
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“You’ve got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society. ” --Conservative Leader Stephen Harper

"I think they were courageous in opposing the unjustified and illegal attack on Iraq"

Cretien had a vested interest staying out of Iraq, considering his best friend (and daughters father in law), Mr. Desmarais, owns totalfinaElf, one of the major players in the oil for food scam. Cretien had personal motives and financial gain on top of the ever so popular 'bash the Americans' political gain.

"they were right to criticize the opposition of the United States to ratifying Kyoto, they are right to oppose drilling in a wildlive preserve"

Canadian greenhouse gas emissions have risen 25% in the last 10 years. What is the point of ratifying Kyoto if you don't abide by it? Kyoto is a worthless piece of paper according the Liberals, just like Martin's promise to Bono to help 'have not' nations was just another broken liberal promise.

The worm has definately turned for Betito. Next stop, we scour the paper trail for a snotty little patronage weasel's corporate connections to the Libranos...I smell another patronage scandal to add to the heap.

I can also see a small time player drug company in the Librano patronage stable being cut from the public teat to save more investigation.

Both the parties in the Betito-Cherwonak item are male, not female, as several commentors have assumed.

Rich,

Those Mounties died because the justice system failed, AGAIN, to keep an offender behind bars where he belonged.

The Liberals have continually gnawed at our defence, policing and justice system.

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