EXCLUSIVE: Bourque has learned that NDP leader Jack Layton has decided to pull the plug on the governing Liberals, this in the wake of last week's Gomery Report, a weekend think about a proposed Liberal health care package, various arm twists from the likes of the CAW's Buzz Hargrove and myriad MPs like Ed Broadbent and Bill Blaikie, provincial heavyweights, and ordinary NDP members from one end of the country to the other. The bombshell is being let loose now in a speech to the Empire Club. According to sources inside the party, "It could be his finest hour, or it could blow up in his face", this referring to the very real risk that the next election may cost the NDP both seats AND influence due to the election of either another minority government or a new majority government for either the Liberals or the Conservatives. One Parliament Hill regular told Bourque that "Layton is smart to pull the plug, he¹s hit the end of the road. The only way to capitalize on what he¹s done is to go into an election while the Liberals are down. It¹s about opportunity, and it doesn¹t get much better than this." Already, phone lines are buzzing as NDP insiders reach out to party movers and shakers, all of them waiting, wondering, and watching for the big announcement's blowtorch ramifications. Developing.
An election, now? Think of Kashechewan!
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Being already responsible for the liberals remaining in power, who gives a rat's what Jack Layton and his liberal clones do?
Posted by: dave at November 7, 2005 1:28 PMLayton can't turn back now and I guess Buzz won't get his senate seat that he so covets.
Posted by: Bruce Randall at November 7, 2005 1:34 PMOnce a Whore, always a Whore!!!
Don't try playing the pure, outraged virgin now Jack....
Posted by: Slim at November 7, 2005 1:37 PMSlim:
He hasn't stopped playing, he just upped his rate.
Posted by: john g at November 7, 2005 1:47 PMThis is a repeat but it fits once again.
At a social function one day a man is asked what he does for a living.
He replies " I am Jack Layton, leader of the federal NDP party". " I have done what I consider many great things including assisting keeping the federal Liberal party in power in return for a lie and showing support our party ring thief".
"But, please don't tell my mother, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse"
Jack Layton is a useless twit who has his wanker pulled by he CAW. What an idiot.
Posted by: Mike at November 7, 2005 2:04 PMImagine, Jack bringing down his own government! Either Ed Broadbent finally got through to Mr. Deer-in-the-Headlights and convinced him to display some scruples for once, or something fishy is going on.
Posted by: NCF TO at November 7, 2005 2:05 PMI won't hold my breath. We all know Layton can be bought. He's just playing hardball while holding out for a sweeter deal. Maybe the Conservatives should consider throwing something his way. I know Harper is an honest,god fearing man who is above Liberano politics, but somtimes you've got to fight fire with fire. Think of it as vigilante justice. It would just be commiting a wrong to extinguish a greater evil.
Posted by: Mcscotty at November 7, 2005 2:06 PMLooks like Bourque was right again.
Posted by: Tagalong at November 7, 2005 2:34 PMThe socialist gene, glad I missed that birth defect.
Posted by: AsISeeIt at November 7, 2005 2:36 PMJack Layton, has announced he will "consider" not propping up a corrupt federal regime (which has lost the moral authority and constitutional parliamentary confidence to govern) because the payola for his support was not sufficient. Funny, from my historical perspective the cheapest buy on the market is a commie politician...Layton is no different ....perhaps real socialists Like Ed Broadbent reminded his young leader that civilly responsible principle, accountable representative government and parliamentary ethical propriety take precedent over Jack's crass partisan pandering and payola soliciting.
In any event, why are we even having this conversation? Every civilly reponsible voter should demand to go to the polls and remove the trash.
Posted by: WL Mackenzie at November 7, 2005 2:41 PMGendercide Watch: The Montreal Massacre
"Until Montréal, most of the discussion was introspective," Layton recalled in
... My head exploded that year. 'What must it be like for women?' I thought. ..
www.gendercide.org/case_montreal.html - 23k -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
`I said you looked like an egg, Sir,' Alice gently explained. `And some eggs are very pretty, you know,' she added, hoping to turn her remark into a sort of compliment.
`Some people,' said Humpty Dumpty, looking away from her as usual, `have no more sense than a baby!'
Alice didn't know what to say to this: it wasn't at all like conversation, she thought, as he never said anything to her; in fact, his last remark was evidently addressed to a tree -- so she stood and softly repeated to herself:
`Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall:
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
All the King's horses and all the King's men
Couldn't put Humpty Dumpty in his place again.' >>>>
http://www.sabian.org/Alice/lgchap06.htm
Hey, go easy on our future coaliton partner, Jack Layton! Harper and Layton will be the Macdonald and Cartier of Canada 2.0, ushering in a Golden Age of Proportional Representation, a repeal of the gun registry, immigration reform, and consumer protection. Drop that writ anytime, Paulie!
Any bets Martin will put another bribe up to Jackal. Neither of them wants an election because they will both suffer too much. Paul is a weasal and Jack is a jackal.
And ... Paul will break his promise to Jack. Neither of these phoney balony socialists can be trusted and I have never heard of any socialist who wasn't indulging in altruistic egoism. It's a mental disorder ... they that warm fuzzy high and the only way to get it is to steal from the rich to give to the lazy, stupid, and crooked with a hefty commission.
Bribe, bribes? Da bribes'R Us. >>> The Bloc is onto this. Librano$$$$$$ have a "bounty" on their heads/seats. >>>>
MONTREAL (CP) - Jean Chretien's hometown was the drop-off point for a briefcase packed with $60,000 in cash for eastern Quebec Liberal candidates in the 1997 federal election, the sponsorship inquiry was told Tuesday.
Former party organizer Marc-Yvan Cote told the inquiry he brought the briefcase of $100 bills to Shawinigan, where the cash was handed out to at least nine candidates who had gathered to kick off the 1997 campaign.
He said the cash was one-half of a $120,000 sum he received for the 1997 campaign from Michel Beliveau, then head of the party's Quebec wing.
"If memory serves, I think it was at the launch of the campaign, in 1997, in Shawinigan," said Cote, then chief organizer for eastern Quebec.
Presiding judge John Gomery pressed him to clarify where the money was distributed.
"You received the money from Mr. Beliveau in Montreal?" asked the judge.
Cote repied: "In Montreal."
The judge added: "That you brought to Shawinigan."
>>> via
http://littletobacco.blogspot.com/2005_05_01_littletobacco_archive.html
Here's a thought...
Now that Jack Layton has said that he cannot show confidence in the government, does that not mean that all three opposing parties have stated they do not have confidence in the government? If so, does that not automatically signal to Parliament that the government is in a state of undeniable non-confidence (as opposed to the close-call non-confidence of this spring)?
And by extension, does that not mean that the Liberals could be EXPECTED to call a vote of confidence on their own, seeing as publicly the majority of the House does not support them?
From my point of view, it is the Liberals who have the ball in their court whether an election will be in the holiday season or whether it will be earlier in December. After all, they now know that they do not have the confidence of the House of Commons. So, seeing as this is common knowledge amongst all Canadians, is the onus not on Paul Martin to ask for a vote of confidence in the house ASAP?
The blame for a Christmas time election can be put on Harper, Duceppe or Layton by Paul Martin. But, the truth is that since he knows today (Monday, November 7) that he no longer has the support of the house, how close to Christmas the election comes is now in his court. He can call a confidence vote any time between now and the next opposition day on his own and it won't be a Christmas time election. In fact it would fall a good 2 weeks before Christmas.
I'd really like to hear what you guys would have to say about this. Does this not make sense? Of course it doesn't make sense in present day, back-stabbing Liberal politics. But in terms of what should be expected of politicians, should the government not just get it over and done with if a confidence motion become inevitable?
Posted by: Surecure at November 7, 2005 3:17 PMSurecure,
The whole "blame the opposition for a Christmas election" is media spin from the very beginning.
The timing of an election once Parliament is dissolved is at the discretion of the Prime Minister. The only rules are that the campaign must be at least 35 days long (but can be longer), and must end on a Monday (or Tuesday if the Monday is a holiday).
Therefore, the only way we get a Christmas election is if Paul Martin believes that Dec 27 is the best time to have an election. It is completely within his power to extend the election campaign to January 9 or 16, even if the confidence vote falls on Nov 15. Yet the media would like to perpetrate the myth that the opposition will take the blame for a christmas election.
I have seen nobody in the press reporting this. I don't know why Harper and Duceppe aren't reminding the voters of this as well, but they damn well should be.
Posted by: john g at November 7, 2005 3:37 PMThe Libs may not want to have an election now, while Gomery is still fresh in the voters minds. Fine. Isn't Sheila Fraser auditing the gun registry now? With the report out in Feb.? That'll be another bombshell, guaranteed.
Can't wait...
I can think of no better Christmas present than to have the Libs ousted.
Posted by: Shabbadoo at November 7, 2005 3:49 PMWill the new GG have any say in this if Martin tells her he's not ready? Sorry, I don't know the legalities of it all. Also, the whole Gomeria thing isn't likely to die down because after the new year comes - ta da - INCOME TAX PREPARATION TIME. Yes, a chance to fill out your little form to remind yourself why you're working, where your money is going, and how that sink hole called Ottawa is using your tax dollars. So, no way Canadians will have a chance to forget, not as long as they're reminded by Rev Canada in the new year.
Posted by: Iron Lady at November 7, 2005 4:24 PMJack has not crawled out of Paul's bed (or visa-versa) just yet.
I don't trust these latest polls. I also have trouble believing that Ontario or Atlantic Canada are willing to change the status quo.
I don't mean to be so pessimistic...
I would sure love to be proven wrong.
Surecure, Yes that is fresh thinking.
Problem is that as Martin has likely promised Jean great gobs of gold for Quebec, [recent $450 million through Dusceppe for softwood industry and 50 million federal] she will never push to rebel and call for dissolution of parliament.
Just as GG Clarkson failed to do her duty.
So the timing is entirely up to Martin and to extend things he uses the second coming of Gomery, by which time the Librano polls should be edging upwards again.
Time works magic on the armies of loyal Liberals who are collecting contract proceeds, wages or bonuses or other incentives.
But, listen up Liberals, you want your team completely out of government, so they can renew. Otherwise, if elected as a weak minority, they will fade and die and very likely never regain respect or power again. TG
Posted by: TonyGuitar at November 7, 2005 4:43 PMLet's ask ourselves if it's true that "Canadians don't want a Christmas election". Odd, what's Christmas, a religious observance, got to do with anything? We don't want a Passover election, or a Ramadan election either, right?
I do not fear a Christmas election. Bring it on. Don't let these gutter-snipe Libranos try to tell you once more what you want or don't want. We don't want them, and the sooner we can send them packing, the better. Let's start 2006 on a note optimism, and get the jump on spring cleaning.
Posted by: Shaken at November 7, 2005 5:33 PMIt doesn't matter a hoot in hell how Quebec votes, ontario still decides. I predict a liberal majority the next time around with more seats from the West than last time. Time will tell.
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Posted by: AsISeeIt at November 7, 2005 6:04 PMThe next time your Liberal friends bring up the spin "that we don't want a Christmas election" just reply "Dec 16, 1979". The Liberals defeated the Tories and there was no concern then, so why should we there be now.
This was back in the day when Christmas was actually allowed to be called Christmas, not Holiday Season or Festivus or whatever else the secularists would have us call it.
In fairness to CTV and Craig Oliver, he was the one who reminded me of this when he challenged the Lib. Deputy House Leader Baril(sp.?) somebody on CTV's QP yesterday
Hey! Where's Cameron and Don and all those other smartass lefties? Where are they trolling today?
Posted by: BCer at November 7, 2005 6:24 PMJack Layton isn't playing with the Liberals. He's playing with the MSM. He knows that after the next election he's history as far as the front page of any newspaper is concerned, if there are any left by then. He knows this is his 15 (going on two years) minutes in the sun. I bet he's having all his news spots recorded just so he's got something to show his grandchildren and brag about.
Jack Layton, in my opinion, is a whore, a sleezy, opportunistic whore.
Mcsotty says "Maybe the Conservatives should consider throwing something his [Layton's] way." That may not be a bad idea. Then turn on him and laugh at him. Like beatin' the scum at his own sleezy game. I'd go with that if it were my call. Fightin' fire with fire and all that.
When you're fighting hand to hand with rats sometimes you need to get down to their level to beat them.
Posted by: John Crittenden at November 7, 2005 6:37 PMDid anyone see the softball question about affordable housing that Layton was tossed right after his little speech? If that wasn't a set up, I've never seen one. Odd how it allowed him to segue into a brief history of the accomplishments of the NDP back in the '70s.
And what's this 'fear of a conservative government' I keep hearing about from the talking heads? Why don't they mention anything about fear of another four years of the thieves having our wallets? Or fear of having the porn star look alike Layton as PM? Now that should give anyone the willys.
I wonder how many blue Liberals will be scared into voting conservative to keep Jack out of the PM's office?
BCer:
http://www.commentsplease.com/collection/client/index.cfm
See comments under "I am not alone". ;)
Someone had a meltdown.
William Robinson: Thanks - Somehow I missed that thread. Major meltdown to be sure. Cameron and Don ....... I can't abide those two hypocrites.
Posted by: BC Con at November 7, 2005 9:11 PMI'll believe it when I see the writ dropped; Layton knows that Martin would gladly play Pick-Up-Sticks with his butt cheeks in the foyer of the HoC if it meant he'd be able to cling to power, so he's twisting the LIEberals for every last concession he can wring out of them.
Posted by: SDC at November 7, 2005 10:04 PMdoes anyone remember in May when the Lib$ told us we didn't want an election during summer? WTF
Posted by: kelly at November 7, 2005 11:18 PMnow if you vote Conservative all those promises we have made over the last 30 years are kaput!
vote librano$
Laydown with Layton.
as they say once a whore always a whore.
He cant pull the face of outrage the way old Ed Broadbent used to . Welcome to the new softer face of the NDP- Svend and Jack.- both sleep with the libs. but for different reasons.
Your right John C. Layton's ego and nacissism are a factor in all of this. He will have some great pictures to show the grandkids along with some big brown envelopes stuffed with cash. There is one certainty when the smoke settles on this parliamentary session. Jack and Olivia won't be going back to the ghetto. Que "The Jefferson's" theme song.
Ken: Perhaps we could re-name it 'Kill a Tree for Jesus Day'?
Posted by: dave at November 8, 2005 1:29 AMGod bless Jack Layton. With his actions he has done two things. First he has absolved the Conservatives from blame for the vote. Now Harper can lay the blame at the feet of Jack. And God Knows the media will never accuse our Jack of opportunism, cynicism, etc.
Next, his excuse for his non-support is the Liberals inability to guaranty no private health care, like his paragons Cuba and North Korea. This eliminates the Liberal lie that they are the only protector of socialized medicine.
Every one with half a brain knows that some privatised health care is the direction we are heading. For Jack to insist on this dream world eliminates him, and his party as a viable option. I say give Jack a standing O.
Posted by: jason at November 8, 2005 1:34 AMI have seen the draft script for the latest Librano ad...
Spring pictures of beavers frolicking with voice over:"you don't want an election now, its summer..."
Next scene -
Winter pictures of icy wilderness, fresh snow and seasonal merriment - voice over "you don't want an election now, its the "holiday season"...
Reprise spring scene - "you don't want an election now, its spring again..."
"vote Librano - we'll do away with elections permanently...its the highest expression of "da canadian value...And save healthcare, for the 12 th time in 12 years (a message brought to you by GroupeAction on behalf of Paul Martin and the liberal party)".
Posted by: Emigrate at November 8, 2005 2:39 AM"say give Jack a standing O."
Well I live 100 yards away from Jack's old municipal office here in the centre of the socialist universe.
This is a crackhead infested smash and grab filthy whino lurking shit covered hell hole.
His eutopia is a nightmare.
But the foods not bad.
richfisher:
I have no doubt he's a shit. That said, I love how the reprussions of is actions might fall out.
P.S. I live a little North of the centre of the socialist universe and used to provide some of that not bad food.
Posted by: jason at November 9, 2005 1:50 AMI've just been thinking about this, and maybe someone has the answer, but what ever happened to Paul Martin calling for an election 30 days after the Gomery report? Didn't he go on TV declaring we would do exactly that?
Did I miss something here?
Posted by: Sean Thomas Phelan at November 9, 2005 4:29 PMHey Sean,
When the Liberals realized this could have serious reprecussions, Gomery decided to table a second report with recommendations on how to prevent such corruption from happening again in the future. This second report won't have the shock value of the initial report, and is conveiniently scheduled to be released in Febuary. Just enough time for the Canadian voters to forget about the first report.
Posted by: Mcscotty at November 10, 2005 10:38 AMGracis
Posted by: jack of at November 13, 2005 1:10 AM