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November 5, 2005

PM's radio address leaked

Stephen Taylor has a leaked copy (in MP3 format) of PM Paul Martin's national radio address that is to be broadcast tomorrow. He already has rebuttals to the PM's talking points up.

Posted by at November 5, 2005 4:52 PM
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yayas oh yayas .. I love it when this happens ...

These elites must just hate it when they have to grovel to the proletariat for forgiveness and yet another chance.

I am sure that's why they continue to five criminals chance after chance .. so they set up a trend here to cover their own big fat political butts

Posted by: Duke at November 5, 2005 5:29 PM

I was thinking about these radio addresses. They run on about 30 stations. At 2 minutes once a week there is a cost. Lets assume $1,000 per station for 2 minutes of ad time. Thats $30,000 a week or $120,000 a month.

If these run till March 31st, when Gomery is called the Liberal party will have spent 22 x $30,000 = $660,000

Now i happen to think this is a clever idea from the Liberals, becase it will be reported every week and likely put on the news on Sunday. Although I would question why a news editor would choose to put a commercial on the air.(anyone atteding a journalistic ethics class where this discussion is taking place?)

I keep hearing the Liberal party is broke, and given the 1.14 million they just paid back and this expenditure, is 1.8 million dollars. Add on another 15% for taxes (average, I know in Alberta they pay no pst) then we are almost at a 2 million dollar burn rate in 5 months. Thats pretty hefty....anyone have any idea how that matches with cash on hand and average rate of fundraising.

But this is normal expenditure and not election expenditure, which is capped, but I believe they get their money back on election expenditures within the cap (I could be wrong).

I guess I am wondering if this is a big expediture for them or small. Who is funding it, are they REALLY paying for the time, remeber all radio stations are federally regulated and CRTC decisions often go to cabinet.

Just curious about all of this. Any thoughts/

Posted by: Stephen at November 5, 2005 5:39 PM

Related to gomery and my post above.

http://www.liberal.ca/jobs_e.aspx

The LPC is looking for "a number of people" to fill a finance and adminstration role. I am sure we could all write up wonderful job descriptions.

I think the funniest line says,

"The Canada Elections Act has many implications on the financial administration of the Liberal Party and its activities. This position will require the development of a strong understanding of the Act and the ability to communicate the implications of the Act to our stakeholders. Training will be provided."

I hear David Dingwall is a consultant on the course.....

Posted by: Stephen at November 5, 2005 5:47 PM

...and Jean Brault will give the address.

Posted by: Antenor at November 5, 2005 5:52 PM

Brison confesses: Liberal Party of Canada looted the tax base of Canada; up to $40 millions of dollars stolen by Liberals from Canadians.

Where are the criminal charges? Where is the RCMP? This Brison must be charged; he has confessed to a crime. >>>>>

"Hon. Scott Brison (Minister of Public Works and Government Services, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, once again the Liberal Party of Canada has paid back any money received inappropriately to the Canadian taxpayer."
Hansard, House of Commons, Ottawa, Canada.
04 Nov. 2005
via newsbeat1.com

Posted by: maz2 at November 5, 2005 5:55 PM

Where's the equal radio time for the opposition leaders? Like how it's done in America.

This being different from America: does it mean Canada needs to be undemocratic and authoritarian? That's sure different from America. I guess that'll do quite fine as far as leftists are concerned... at least they're getting their way.

Where's the outrage that only Paulie gets to get his message out at taxpayers' expense?

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at November 5, 2005 6:59 PM

Canadian Sentinel,

Actually the Liberal Party is paying for it, allegedly at least. It is a paid commercial, therefore no rebuttal time is allotted. Hence my first post trying to estimate its cost and asking the question of how the Liberal party affords this and the 1.14 million and carry the overhead of the bodies needed to run a party.

Posted by: Stephen at November 5, 2005 7:07 PM

MAR DEL PLATA, Argentina (CP) - Prime Minister Paul Martin warned Saturday that an early election would derail progress on everything from aboriginal poverty to medical wait times.>>>>>>

Mr. Corruption's sermon from MAR DEL PLATA: You stupid Canadians: you don't do nothing without permission from MOI & the Librano$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Posted by: maz2 at November 5, 2005 7:25 PM

..."The Canada Elections Act...This position will require the development of a strong understanding of the Act and the ability to communicate the implications of the Act to our stakeholders"...

Are they kidding? They're expecting $20,000 clerks to be be reponsible for reminding individuals at senior levels that the Act makes it illegal to accept cash payments in brown envelopes.

Are they expecting them to tie their shoelaces for them as well?

Posted by: JM at November 5, 2005 7:33 PM

I'm not curious at all about where the LPC is getting the money to air their partisan political radio addresses. That's what disturbs me about them.

Posted by: Paul MacPhail at November 5, 2005 7:36 PM

That's not all that leaking ..

"In a stunning move today, the government of France has offered a grandiose solution to the Muslim problems in the world today."

Rest of the story here.

Posted by: Duke at November 5, 2005 7:54 PM

http://soapbox22.blogspot.com/2005/11/dubious-day.html


The Day the Librano$$$$ were born: 4th November, 1993. The Day the Libranos died: 4th November, 2005. >>>memento mori: "remember death,">> more

"Although it's not worth celebrating, yesterday is a date we should all remember. On the 4th of November 1993 the Liberals were sworn into government.

These last twelve years have seen a litany of broken promises, scandal, waste and mismanagement by the Liberals. Red Book co-author and current Prime Minister Paul Martin would rather you forgot most of those twelve years, especially his leading role as a key Cabinet Minister.

Here's a small list to let Paul know that some people haven't forgotten his record to date, and aren't likely to anytime soon. Feel free to print out this list and pass it on to any friends or family who might actually be contemplating continuing support for a Liberal government. For that matter, maybe we should forward a copy or two to NDP Leader Jack Layton.


1. Cancelling the Sea King replacement." >>> more

Posted by: maz2 at November 5, 2005 8:00 PM

maz2, i can;t get access to your list: there's no link on my cpu: can you please re-post?

Thanks!

Posted by: interested at November 5, 2005 8:35 PM


Is Paris Burning?

Posted by: Duke at November 5, 2005 9:15 PM

I saw a French reporter dipstick on Hannity And Combes the other night who was insisting that what's happing in France is a class problem.

The French have no class and that's the real problem.

Posted by: Duke at November 5, 2005 9:17 PM

http://soapbox22.blogspot.com/2005/11/dubious-day.html

When this is pasted into Mozilla browser it goes to Google; click there to the page above. Sorry, works here.

Try here also:

http://soapbox22.blogspot.com/
Blue Blogging Soapbox
Brison is featured also.
RSVP

Posted by: maz2 at November 5, 2005 9:26 PM

Items # 75 & 76: A Sampler >>> brought to you at great expense (unlawful) by the Librano$$$$$$ (No charge on the 'Net).

75. Liberal MP Jag Bhaduria’s hate mail to his former employers, wishing that they had been shot by killer Marc Lepine
76. Liberal MP Jag Bhaduria making false claims about his academic qualifications. >>>>
http://soapbox22.blogspot.com/
Blue Blogging Soapbox

Posted by: maz2 at November 5, 2005 9:50 PM

Here is the crux of the argument.

Theft of 1.4 Millions of dollars.
Do you go to jail? why not?

Pay back 1.4 Millions. Do you still go to jail?

Theft of 1.4 Million to pay back the first stolen monies. [Liberal fund raising down to a trickle]
Now do Libranos go to jail? Why not?

I'm so confused. TG

Posted by: TonyGuitar at November 6, 2005 2:05 AM

http://www.FraserInstitute.ca/##1

Well that's much better. Clarifies a lot. TG

Posted by: TonyGuitar at November 6, 2005 4:40 AM

I was pretty excited when I read that the CPC had raised ten million bucks and the NDP and Liberals only five million each. I figured Canadians whould be too disgusted to donate to Liberals and the new restrictions on corporate donations would help level the playing field.

Well it turns out the Liberals will be borrowing from the banks to finance their next election. The same banks that Paul Martin was in charge of for 9 years as Minister of Finance. And the Liberals plan to borrow up to the maximum spending limit, effectively negating any fundraising advantage the CPC may have. I haven't read the fine print of Stevie Harper's Accountability Plan but federal parties should not be able to borrow - from one entity - half of their election warchest.

Canadian banks have been underwriting some pretty shady stuff under the Liberals, from Enron scams to the SCO\Linux lawsuit. I hope whichever bank lends the Liberals the cash for the next election gets the attention they deserve.

Posted by: Anonalogue at November 6, 2005 8:27 AM

Maybe the Libs are borrowing the money. Maybe they're doing something sinister for the money in a last-ditch attempt considering they're probably pretty much broke, with poor fundraising and their claimed payment of over a million bucks.

We won't know for a while what the truth is.

The Tories can afford to do the radio address thing. Maybe they should. Worth thinking about.

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at November 6, 2005 8:46 AM

We need a regime change...pronto.

The Gomery report has confirmed what we have known now for years...that is...that the Liberal party is corrupt.
Justice Gomery's exonerating of PM Paul Martin is pure Liberal BUNK!!..Martin new what was going on...and did nothing...this makes him culpable.

The shredders have been working overtime now for a long time, if the Liberals are allowed to stay in power, we may never truly get to the bottom of this scandal.

PM Martin is now crying he needs more time to shove his Gangster socialist agenda down our throats...the truth is he just wants to appoint more (alot more) deserving Liberals to jobs for life.
There have been too many scandals, millions, maybe billions of dollars are simply un-accounted for.

We need an election as soon as possible, we need to elect a conservative goverment, we need someone other than a Liberal (or) socialist to have a good hard look at the books.

Posted by: B Wylie at November 6, 2005 9:48 AM

B Wylie

While I know my vote would be for the CPC I am not convinced that there would be enough to get them a solid minority or a majority.

The worst case is an election that returns the Liberals to power in either minority or majority.

There are two arguments

1) Go now because you have them cornered and can beat them in an election (a dubious porposition based on the last election). If the CPC has a better plan and everything is in place, including going right to the end and not returning to alberta for the last 4 days....man that was stoooopid....and being better prepared for the inevitable Liberal drive by...we saw that this week...then you could produce a solid minority today.

2) CPC support, for minority is an inch deep and could evaporate in the heat of an election. Paulie has given away the timing, meaning all parties can shape the batttlefield. CPC spends a little extra time roasting the liberals on a spit and bring out good idea after good idea over the next 4 to 5 months....shoot they only need 5 really good ideas to get them to election time and then they can campaign on what they promised while holding the Liberals feet to the corruption fire.

My sense is that the exoneration story wont hold. The question is when will the damn break on it. Will the Chretienites drop a couple of bombs in an election or would they do it ahead of time. If they do ahead of time the CPC could look to for a majority government...it is possible.

Corruption is a reason to vote against, the CPC needs to give reasons to get Canadians to vote FOR them.

But I am ready anytime because I have made my decision, as I think you have. 4 months wont change mine or yours but it might change another 500,000 Canadian minds.

Posted by: Stephen at November 6, 2005 10:37 AM

You're right Stephen, please tell me that you reside somewhere in Ontario??

PM Layton will not pull the pin so my thinking is that the CPC should be working overtime on strategy and policy, get something moving every day. I would still consider the media somewhat biased, CBC doesn't count as it is just another wing of the liberal party, but I have noticed it slightly shifting. The Conservatives should keep hammering away, keep corruption simmering in the background but move forward with positive strategy. Living here in Ontario myself this is what the voters around our area are waiting to hear, give them what they want!

Posted by: Anne (mad in Ontario) at November 6, 2005 11:28 AM

Anne (MIO),

Yes I do reside in Ontario...and take a lot of good natured heat for it on the board.

Opinions are worth what you pay for them and mine was free. But yes I believe in our little corner of Canada this is what makes sense. Does it make sense in Regina, Winnipeg or Kelowna? Dont know.

Well I am glad I am not the only living breathing Conservative in Ontario. I live in a riding on the northern border of toronto. It was Conservative provincially till the last election. There is hope this riding could flip. Heavy immigration though in the norhtern regions but not necessarily Liberal.

One bit of Canadiana for you. I was working the polls and it was like a united colours of bennetton ad on voting day. It was great. We have russian immigrants, pakistani immigrants, african immigrants, orthodox jews, hijab covered muslim women. And they ALL lined up and cast their vote intermixed with each other. Some were neighbours because they were chatting and smiling.

I think about that when I look at the pictures from Paris or hear the latest rant from Zarqawi or the statements from the Iranian president. Some days I think there is actually hope....

Posted by: Stephen at November 6, 2005 11:45 AM

"If two years of ad scam, plundering the public purse, re-igniting separatism, confusing their party with our government, and wounding the very system of politics itself doesn't argue it's time for a change, it's time to question why we bother have elections in the first place. Ad scam was institutionalized theft via the party in power. That's some platform for a fifth term. "

http://www.cbc.ca/national/rex/rex_051102.html


Cross Country Checkup will be dealing with the Gomery Report this afternoon at 4:00pm ET

Posted by: maz2 at November 6, 2005 12:41 PM

Stephen,
Thank for mentioning us in Kelowna! Yes it does matter! Keep you eyes on Kelowna November 24, 25.
PMPMmeets with Native Leaders to announce 30-40 BILLION to deal with Native issues. MP Jim Prentice asked the question a couple of weeks ago: Where is the budget on this money? How much will go back to the Liberal pockets??? Will there ever be an investigation into Indian Affairs???? This would make Adscam look like peanuts!!!

Posted by: Mary at November 6, 2005 2:10 PM

Doug Fisher and Lorrie Goldstein both good in today's Toronto Sun. torontosun.com

All things Gomery, and kudos to Greg Weston too.

Posted by: Iron Lady at November 6, 2005 4:03 PM

Paul, Welcome, always refreshing to have an opposing view. Everyone wins through trading ideas.

Nothing wrong with being Liberal minded is some areas. Harper himself is Liberal or humanitarian where it counts. You can verify this for yourself by watching his talk with the Fraser Institute. [short video] RE: health-care for instance.

http://www.FraserInstitute.ca/##1

I used to hate the Fraser Institute at one time as a heartless bottom line inhuman entity...but, then I learned the truth about it. The MSM had warped my perception. Just as it has by telling us that Harper is a scary *Boogy-Man*. Damn MSM!

There will be thousands of Liberals who will vote CPC next time. True, some will hold their nose, but those Liberals who can think will understand that Canada has to repair the decks before we can return to being effective again.

Once Whistle Blower Protection law is properly in effect and Audit and Ministry account systems are streamlined, Canada will be surprised to find what a huge and rich economy we really have.

First things first. No point in sparring over what expensive weapons we want until the combination locks on our national wealth are fixed ... eh? TG
http://BendGovernment.blogspot.com

Posted by: TonyGuitar at November 6, 2005 4:09 PM

As far as I am concerned, Brison should resign, immediately.

Posted by: Shaken at November 6, 2005 9:48 PM

Never, ever trust anything the MSM spews - they turn on a dime and they are creatures of left wing ideologies. Weston is one of the most grubby of the lot - he is nasty and cynical; I lost my respect for him a long time ago.

Posted by: Jema54 at November 7, 2005 3:04 AM

An optomistic election prediction: All Conservatives show up and vote. Soft Liberals vote Conservative, or stay home. Betrayed and now appathetic middle Liberals, without resolve or passion, mostly stay home. The hard left socialists split their vote.

Of course this all depends on Harper putting forward a strong vision, while keeping the 'liberals are corrupt' pressure on.

Posted by: Irwin Daisy at November 7, 2005 12:15 PM
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