What are they, bimbos or something? They sound like Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie, only with bigger words used...

Canadian Press, aka Communist Press, linking Operation Iraqi Freedom to the phony "battle with Canada over softwood" lumber.

Ole Aunty-American is trotted out of the attic by the mouthpiece of the Librano$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Down with Aunty-American. Down with AdScam Martin's/Power Cartel.>>>>

Rice to visit prime minister in Ottawa
London Free Press - 2 hours ago
By TERRY PEDWELL, CP. OTTAWA -- Under the cloud of unabated violence in Iraq and a battle with Canada over softwood, Condoleezza Rice is coming to Ottawa Monday for her first official visit as US secretary of state. Rice's Oct. ... >>

You jest, of course...? That was broadcast in Canada...??!! It reads like the scene in Galaxy Quest, the discussions of "Earth's historical documents": "You mean, you believe that on Gilligan's Island...". And the Thermians, crestfallen and mournful, look at their feet, "Those poor people."

So, is Iraq not a quagmire, then? Sometimes morons say things that are true, even if only by accident.

So, is Iraq not a quagmire, then?

No.

If ignorance is bliss. Then I understand why
Anchor people smile. quagmire, no not even close.
While doing anything takes time. Rebuilding a
nation takes time. But I have unfortunatly gotten used to the group of people that expect things to happen at once. This negative group sees only failure with everything not related to their way of thinking. This type of person would never
have built a country like America. No vision.

Stephen Colbert on the War in Iraq...

"Anybody who knows me knows that I am no fan of dictionaries or reference books. They're elitist for constantly telling us what is or isn't true, what did or didn't happen...

I don't trust books. They're all fact and no heart. And that's exactly what's pulling our country apart today. Because face it, folks, we are a divided nation... We are divided by those who think with their head, and those who know with their heart.

And what about Iraq? If you think about it, maybe there are a few missing pieces to the rationale for war. But doesn't taking Saddam out feel like the right thing...right here in the gut? Because that's where the truth comes from, ladies and gentlemen...the gut.

Did you know that you have more nerve endings in your stomach than in your head? Look it up. Now, somebody's gonna say `I did look that up and its wrong'. Well, Mister, that's because you looked it up in a book. Next time, try looking it up in your gut. I did. And my gut tells me that's how our nervous system works.

Now I know some of you may not trust your gut...yet. But with my help you will. The "truthiness" is, anyone can read the news to you. I promise to feel the news...at you."

Quack !, quack
Quag, quag,
Quagmiire, quagmire!

Deliver us from this flock of lefty socialisist idiots.

Unfortunately the easily impressionable (read: Ontario) electorate will eat this crap up.

Of course there's those of us who recognize this feeble left-lib twaddle for what it REALLY is - LaFlamme and Rinaldo paddling in ankle deep water passing off tin-foil as news.

Please someone tell me this is satire. Please.

Kerry:

"Galaxy Quest" - I loved that film.

Bev Desjarlais's decision is "fall-out" from her vote against the SSM debacle wherein she followed her conscience not the Party line of Red Jack Layton, the wannabe-destroyer of sick care in Canada. The NDP is a socialist/communist faction allied with AdScam Martin's Cartel regime.
Bravo to Bev Desjarlais; a real woman. She is neither a suspected NDP militant, nor even a militant. She is a genuine Canadian patriot. Bravo. CBC says she is "quitting NDP caucus" implying she is doing this "quitting" on her own; in fact, she has been dumped by the NDP HQ, aka Layton & cohorts. The CBC is covering this fact with their bsbsbs.>>>>

Manitoba MP quitting NDP caucus
CBC News - 5 hours ago
The New Democratic Party is losing one of its 19 seats in the House of Commons, with MP Bev Desjarlais saying she'll start sitting as an Independent as early as Tuesday. Desjarlais lost the NDP nomination ...
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Irrespective of the giggling and gloating of lefty moonbat airheads like Renaldo, Iraq is at a stage where it is almost botched...get over it and drop the partisan blinders. Deal with that reality...this is now a protracted conflict with nationalist insergents. The Dems gave Bush the go ahead to run his war of vindication for 9/11, He picked an Al Queda nation with a goon that he thought was easy to beat and he blew it after the initial invasion by sending the iraqi army into the hill instead of putting them in charge of local security under US command. It's like he wanted to see them get POed and turn ion the occupation. The occupation and transition was horribly managed and are chewing up billions$$$$ and too many lives....what's next the draft reinstated? Iraq is salvageable but some changes have to be made to who is controlling the transition agenda.

Meamwhile the homeland has become a de-facto armed camp under virtual martial law with FEMA chafing at the bit to be unleashed for any kind of domestic situation....all this while the Mexican border sits wide open and Bush "naturalizes" 7.4 million illegal aliens instead of rounding them up deporting them and sealing the border...I wonder how many terrorist and foreign agents are among the 6500 illegal immigants walking across the Mexican border each month....seems the patriot act was intended for suspects who resemble middle America while foreign border crashers are welcomed...strange priorities and ideals for a so called conservative indeed.

When I saw the military (in BDU cammo, equipped with body armor and M4s tricked out with laser sights and zenon blinder lights) going house to house, in louisiana neighborhoods unaffected by the floods or looters, confiscating legally owned civilian firearms and then arresting middle class Americans and dragging them off in protest to FEMA consentration centers....my opinion of Bush changed dramatically. Then he passed a civilian firearms registry and private sale ban and reinstated the Clinton import ban on auto loading firearms at the same time expanding the BATF ( the waco goon squad) by 700 agents. Add to this the 6 Constitutional amendments evicerated by the domestic security acts he keeps passing and I have grave doubts that Mr. Bush is a mainstream conservative.

Chocolate covered cherries vs. democracy? Tough choice, eh? Although, I suppose if we consider PM's kind of democracy, chocolate covered cherries might not seem so bad.
Bad news from the Toronto Star this morning. It seems Gomery is about to give Martin a free ride on ADSCAM. In our democracy, a Liberal newspaper can access a confidential report by a Liberal judge to prepare a Liberal electorate to accept vindication of a Liberal politican.
Talk about chocolate coating........

Must keep Iraq violence in some sort of context. Really what we have is isolated and sporadic gang violence happening of a very serious and high level. Many innocent people are being killed rather than the odd one and 90% of Iraq goes with their normal day duties but news reports don't find that headline grabbing but there is a great story happening out there in Iraq . Big part of that story is how much safer and secure people in Kuwait, Saudi Arabia,Iran, Iraqui people feel now that Saddam and his regime is history.

Desjarlais lost her NDP nomination in her riding, which is why she'll be an independent. The fact that the NDP kicked her out of caucus should be worn as a badge of honor - they kicked her out because she voted against SSM because that's what her constituents wanted her to do. I don't see that as a bad thing at all.

Hey Old Squid...that ain't "chocolate" Martin is dumping on those cherries! It may be brown and gooey but smell it again and tell me it's chocolate...just don't "eat" anything PMPM concocts in his candy store ;-)

Peter Banyk said: "Must keep Iraq violence in some sort of context."

Peter I realize the MSM still run on "if it bleeds it leads" and there is certainly a lot of partisan bias in their report on the Iraqi situation....but this does not detract from the reality that the occupation was nearly/if not botched. US forces are facing pockets of rsistance that were regular Iraqi military they just fight in isolated groups as irregulars and recruit anti american insurgents into their ranks. Do you not find it interesting that as fast as the US can kill them, they are replaced and the conflict springs up in a new region/town?

There is organization there and I won't be foolish enough to dismiss it as "gangs". It has military logic in its strategies and it has better intel than the occupation forces. Intel is everything in this type of protracted irregular conflict and the US has stupidly shut many avenues to increasing their intel net by their abysmal treatment of the regular Iraqi military. Secondly, the administration does a fair bit of its own spinning and controlling the negative things that happen in Iraq. This certainly isn't desert storm or the invasion where there were "entrenched" journalists....the military is controlling what info the media gets since the occupation.

In any event, I'm pretty jaded with the whole affair as there are more and more skeletons falling out of this administration's closets these days....put me down as one of the conservatives who believe the Bush administration has lost its shine....which truely scares me because if the republicans become this inept and domestically unconstitutional, the alternative of a Clinton regime would be even worse...its a situation with 2 bad choices set to take the reins of power in Washington....like picking between the lesser of 2 greater evils.

BTW: Sandie Raynaldo's performance on this thinly veiled anti American schtick was truely dripping with an ideologue's venom...it is exactly this type of partisan BS that has rational people turning off the MSM as an info source.

I mean C'mon Sandie what the Frig is a "quagmire"??? I doubt you ever had the requisite historical education to make a valued judgement on military conflict....this was just another thinly veiled cheap shot at an ideological foe...America and American conservatives...how banal....this is professional news reporting?...does everything on Canadian MSM have to go through this sickening ideological filter...damn, we get more like the old soviet cultures every day.

I rarely watch TV news other than Fox.

I just happened to be watching last night with my wife and we both went slack-jawed at that exchange between what I can only describe as two America hating [deleted]

And this is our alternative to the CBC?

[watch the language, Duke - Kate]

Hey, Bill,
I would never take anything from Paul Martin, not even a Senate seat and we all know how sweet that is.
And before you break a blood vessel over Sandy and Lisa, just remember who they work for. CTV. The outfit that killed off Lucien Bouchard and raised him from the dead the same afternoon. Even God took three days......

Touche' Squid ;-)

I of course used the term gangs very loosely but my point trying to simplify the situation is that the terrorists are but small groups and really are not in any position to overthrow the present regime. Far from it. They are only there to disrupt the order of law. In spite of everything it would not be impossible for the same thing to happen here if terrorists were so inclined and motivated. Remember Oka was a standof with a policeman shot for a very long time. We are vulnerable to such actions and we haven't undergone a war etc. so it behooves us not to be to smug and point fingers.

There once was a Quagmire in Iraq, over in the south west by Iran, but Saddam drained it, laid electrical cables in it, and sent out a feint across the lines. When the Iranians massed a counter-attack he let the water back in and turned on the generators. Fried a lot of Iranians. Clever Saddam.

CTV made my jaw drop too. The women anchors were joyfully reporting that the whole election sucess was a lopsided quigmire. It appeared, they said, that all those poor, peaceful, people of Iraq; longing for was the helicone days of Sadam's benevolent dictatorship days, wanted was ; the USA to LEAVE. It shocked me and nothing the MSM say about my relatives and friends in the USA should shock me anymore. I almost hated those women for their ill diguised glee that maybe one of my cousins would be shot by a good Iraqui who was bravely fighting for a return to the beloved 'olden days' of wood chippers, rape, starvation..... it was obscene.