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I saw this photo(s) a few weeks back. Along with this was a "cropped" image of moonbat Cindy Sheehan, allegedly sharing a tender moment, graveside with another "war mom". Zoom out on the photo and the (left-lib) press are literally playing twister trying to squeeze in for a photo!
Posted by: Eskimo at October 14, 2005 1:15 PMSo if the image of a young colored girl saying no to war is a fabricated lie, would the image of an older white man saying yes to war be the truth?
Posted by: Maple stump at October 14, 2005 1:27 PMThis just serves to illustrate that propagandists like this really do need to be tempered by their opposite number, so that we are not beguiled by their potemkin villages and camouflaged ideals.
Daryl
Posted by: Daryl Haaland at October 14, 2005 1:30 PMBTW just a quick question to maple stump, did you even look at the "anatomy of a photograph" article? If you did, did you just look at the pictures or actually read the text? A girl supporting an anti war rally of her own accord as an american or canadian citizen is one thing but ideological warfare of the kind conducted by communist and socialist groups around the world is another thing entirely.
Daryl
Posted by: Daryl Haaland at October 14, 2005 1:37 PMDaryl, I indeed read the whole article. I agree that the manipulation of the picture mislead the reading public as to what the protest was really all about. But then my comment was simply to point out that a disproportionate amount of war supporters are male - white - older, at least in North America. Answer this, if a Canadian or American citizen supports the enemy position, should we not engage them as such or do we just expect them to grow out of it? Would you mind seeing your neighbour's kid thrown in jail because he supports Palestinians or should we wait until he plants a bomb like those kids did in London? Ideological warfare? CIA anyone? At least they are on our side.
Posted by: Maple stump at October 14, 2005 2:01 PMPhotos cropped? What's new about that? Stalin did it, decades ago.>>>>
Falsification of history
The Soviet Union
The most common examples of photograph alteration and falsification come from communist Russia. Unwanted persons, so-called "enemies of the people" were not only killed, but also removed from photographs where their presence was unwanted. Photographs were altered with the intent of changing the past.
Leon Trotsky was a close friend of Lenin, and shared his idealistic ideas about the communist state. In the following photographs he can be seen together with Lenin. >>>> more
http://www.tc.umn.edu/~hick0088/classes/csci_2101/false.html
I've seen something like that on the Northeast Intelligence Network in which the Islamic group CAIR doctored a photograph to manipulate the peoples' perception. See for yourselves:
http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/cair.asp
Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at October 14, 2005 3:17 PMFriday, October 14, 2005
Give Me Your Tired, Your Oppressed, Your Tyrannized.
>>>>>> Photo here... please post photo---- see the Baby ---- the Future! It's a heartbreaker.>>>>
An Iraqi woman who recently gave birth casts her vote in Iraq's referendum on the new constitution in Najaf. Take this image in, nice and slooooow.
Unbelievable, I am barraged daily with media messages telling me how bad things are going. The media increasingly becomes more dangerous. It's not just The Global War on Radical Islamofascism, its the Global War on the lunatic lib left media. No matter how many different ways they insist the world is flat..............
Posted by Pamela aka "Atlas" on Friday, October 14, 2005 at 08:18 AM in >>>>
http://www.rapp.org/url/?YQ9UNKHB
atlasshrugs
Angry's site has the moonbat Cindy cropped photos.
Posted by: Eskimo at October 14, 2005 3:50 PM
What Lies Beneath
The Politics of CP has a map showing the locations and functions of many Jamaat ul-Fuqra compounds throughout the United States, together with a table describing its criminal offenses in various localities. Most of this data has been sourced from the National White Collar Crime Center's report (published by the National Criminal Justice Reference Organization) called "Identifying the Links between White-Collar Crime and Terrorism". Happily, this report is available as a downloadable PDF here.
The Jamaat ul-Fuqra compound in Red House, Virginia was the subject of a post by the Gates of Vienna. The National White Collar Crime Center's report is itself worth reading. It persuasively argues that Jamaat ul-Fuqra provides the Jihadi movement with a powerful support capability in the United States not merely because of the compounds but because of its member's intimate knowledge of the way the dark underbelly of America works. Many of Jamaat ul-Fuqra's members were recruited in prison and know (I dare say better than most Belmont Club readers) how to commit "white collar crime" (WCC). They are the ultimate in street-smart. They used:
credit card fraud, insurance fraud, identity theft, intellectual property crime, investment fraud, money laundering, immigration fraud, computer crime, and tax evasion
Jamaat even knew how to raise "funds through fraudulent charitable organizations claiming to support a particular cause such as disaster relief or food services" and bogus Worker's Compensation claims. One of those claims was used in a multistep laundering process to buy a training property in Trout Creek Pass, Colorado. >>> more
http://www.fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com/
Jamaat in Toronto? Yes.
http://www.torontojamat.ca/Ntorontojamat/index.htm
Another example of this kind of photojournalism was recently seen in the National Post.
Sean Penns humiliating fiasco of trying to shame the Bush administration by "rescuing" people is well illustrated. (photo is in link)
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2005/09/sean-penn-bales-on-rescue-attempt.html
However when the National Post printed the photo on its front page the photo had been cropped tightly around Penn so that the bailing cup and surrounding people were not in the shot.
The resultant photo appeared to show a dramatic rescue, Sean Penn reaching out to a victim in need, a look of fierce determination on his face.
I wrote the Post to complain that their cropping entirely missrepresented what was actually happening.
I recieved the following answer;
"The photo was cropped to fit the dimensions of the other five in the
sequence. There was no desire to lionize anyone: quite the opposite.
Thanks for your comments"
This is why taking things at face value creates a false reality. The Truth deserves to be looked in the face.
Posted by: Tom Penn at October 14, 2005 9:17 PMI found out many years ago that you dont have to lie to not tell the truth.Sometimes a no comment is enough.
Posted by: spike at October 14, 2005 9:55 PM"The photo was cropped to fit the dimensions of the other five in the sequence. There was no desire to lionize anyone: quite the opposite. Thanks for your comments"
Need to change the dimensions? That's easy in Photoshop:
1. Choose IMAGE
2. Choose IMAGE SIZE
3. Enter new size
4. Click OK
Pfffffffft.
Posted by: Sean at October 14, 2005 11:54 PMWhat's the point of that critique? I mean -- the photo clearly showed that it was a protesting teenager. Why does it matter whether the teenager is a communist? The two main Kurdish parties in Iraq are communist. It's still an expression of grassroots politics. And what's wrong with a protest being, well, organized? Any protest of more than one person is organized.
Posted by: Leons Petrazickis at October 15, 2005 1:52 AMIt's not just that the protestor is simply a protesting teenager. It's important also to be advised of any political orientation on the part of the protestor. It's clearly a political protest and news consumers need to know this. Otherwise, news consumers might think the message is one coming from ordinary, nonpolitical folk, which would amount to deliberate manipulation on the part of the one who cropped the photo.
Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at October 15, 2005 8:01 AM" The List " of Islamic Terror Attacks For the Past 12 Months.
Since 9/11 >>>>> 3081
Date Country City Killed Injured Description
10/15/05
India Kathua 2 6 Islamic militants attack a group of soldiers as they are performing physical exercises on their base.
10/14/05 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A 43-year-old electrician is gunned down by Islamists on a motorcyle while on his way to work.
10/14/05 Afghanistan Tani 1 16 Religious extremists kill a cleric and injure sixteen others with a bombing at a mosque.
10/14/05 Afghanistan Miwand 2 13 Two policemen are killed in an ambush by religious extremists.
10/14/05 Thailand Pattani 1 0 Militant Muslims capture and behead a 68-year-old Buddhist cattle farmer.
10/13/05 Russia Nalchik 36 64 A coordinated urban attack by 150 Islamic militants on a school and airport leaves at least thirty-six civilians and law enforcement personnel dead.
10/13/05 Pakistan Gilgit 12 25 Twelve people, including three women, are killed in sectarian violence following a Shia demonstration.
10/13/05 India Chowkian 2 1 An elderly man is killed in his home by the Mujahideen in an attack that also injures his wife. Another civilian is gunned down in Sambora.
10/12/05 Phillipines Pamatsakin 3 2 Abu Sayyaf militants attack a security patrol, killing a civilian and two soldiers.
10/12/05 Iraq Tal Afar 30 35 A second al-Qaeda suicide bombing in as many days leaves another thirty Iraqis dead and at least thirty-five others in various stages of physical suffering.
10/12/05 Afghanistan Kandahar 5 3 Taliban extremists murder five medical workers returning from a relief trip. The dead include two doctors, two nurses and a driver.
10/12/05 Afghanistan Uruzgan 6 0 Six policemen die in a Taliban ambush.
10/11/05 Pakistan Gilgit 1 7 Militant Muslims ambush a group of civilians, shooting one of them to death. >>>>>>>
more>>>http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
The photo wasn't cropped. Zombietime admits as much.
I've been a parade marshal in my time. Does that mean that everyone there was under my sinister direction?
Tempest. Teapot.
Posted by: Dr.Dawg at October 15, 2005 12:35 PMI think media bias here was a good thing. Any media bias in favour of liberty is great. Media bias, per se, isn't a bad thing, but tyranny is.
Communist anti-war marchers and welfare liberal newspaper editors are less statist than conservatives on the war issue, i.e. they oppose it.
If this type of media bias helps end the deadly, big government intervention in Iraq, great!
Posted by: Robert Seymour at October 15, 2005 6:15 PMAl-Qaeda chief sets up UK network
Posted by jmc1969
On 10/15/2005 4:06:39 PM PDT · 1 reply · 60+ views
Times Online ^ | October 16 2005
THE head of Al-Qaeda in Iraq has established a new terror network in Britain which is recruiting young Muslim fanatics to fight coalition troops. Abu Musab al-Zarqawi has recently set up the group to recruit and train would-be suicide bombers and gunmen, counter-terrorism officials have said. The new group, Ansar al-Fath — Partisans of Victory — is an offshoot of Ansar al-Islam, an organisation that is to be banned under new anti-terror rules announced by Charles Clarke, the home secretary, last week. Ansar al-Fath provides logistical support to foreign fighters in Iraq and uses the internet to find new recruits... >>>>
freerepublic.com
Maz, stay on topic.
yeah, them communists are only helping the true feelings of the community get out.
cause the communist party, the international workers of the world, etc really only have our best interests at heart.
just like how the fact that nazis sponsoring an anti gang march has no real impact on the validity of the march. the nazis are marching against brigands, so they are in the right.
/sarc
and in the real world, we will deal with these people in due time.
as to the question up thread: i'm young and support this, would have enlisted in us spec forces but for 2 bum knees and a bad educational history (advanced technical degree is not a good way to get into an action oriented position, while my lack of us citizenship tends to exclude me from officer country as well as from doing interesting work using my education). those who aid and abet the enemies of civilisation should be treated like the traitors that they are: hung, drawn, and quartered.
with respect to the color of those supporting the war, vs the color of those opposing it: the main players are both lily freaking white, with a decent admixture of jews on both sides (wolfowitz, naomi klein, etc). You also tend to forget the rather large proportion of black, brown and yellow folks who are supporters of taking action against islamist dictatorships, terrorists, and baathists. Ask black sudanese from the nuba mountains how much they appreciate the jihadis? Whether they would like the US to intervene? But then anyone of any non-pale color who doesn't toe the leftist/anti-imperialist/anti-colonialist/anti-american line isn't "really" a person of colour, their just another evil white male. Good examples of this are Irshad Manji and Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who are actually straight, old, white men, despite Irshad's disguise as a leftwing young brown lesbian woman and Ayaan being a leftish young black straight woman.
Posted by: hey at October 17, 2005 3:00 AM